WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: SPLC Indictment, Denaturalization, Iran

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<v Speaker 1>Alz Media.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today,

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<v Speaker 2>joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans. This

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<v Speaker 2>episode recovering the week of April sixteenth to April twenty second. James,

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<v Speaker 2>some small news items.

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<v Speaker 3>At the start, Yeah, a few things I want to

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<v Speaker 3>discuss op top. The United States government appears to be

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<v Speaker 3>running multiple propaganda sites with associated X accounts that are

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<v Speaker 3>opposing as Iranian media. One of the accounts is located

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<v Speaker 3>in Florida. This is not like massively uncommon in a

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<v Speaker 3>conflict of this right now, the information war is part

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<v Speaker 3>of the war.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what like US actual psyop is like. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what the United States syop operations are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the syop is not like the woman sold you

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<v Speaker 3>that you follow on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't new for the US to be doing. It

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<v Speaker 4>is new for it to be like this sloppy. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's probably fair to say this is like a

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<v Speaker 4>sloppier than normal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what's remarkable here. It said it's shoddy and

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<v Speaker 3>that is not a good sign for their for like

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<v Speaker 3>the whole US sort of capacity in this regard.

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<v Speaker 1>But it depends on how you think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, yeah sure. Secondly, a number of former

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<v Speaker 3>DHS Department pronoun Security and iOS Immigration and Naturalization Services

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<v Speaker 3>officials have filed an amicus brief with a Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 3>explaining why the cancelation of the hat TPS Temporary Protected

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<v Speaker 3>Status is illegal. They do include Janet Napolitano, which is nice,

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<v Speaker 3>but a ton of people from Obama Bush, even Clinton

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<v Speaker 3>admin pre DHS I ins were part of this amakus brief.

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<v Speaker 3>An IDF soldier has been photographed destroying a statue of

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<v Speaker 3>the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ in Lebanon, showing it with

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<v Speaker 3>a splitting more the reporting called it a sledge hammer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what a sledgehammer looks like. I know, I

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<v Speaker 3>get really picky about this, but like, maybe if you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't worked with your hands, you should write things that

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<v Speaker 3>can be read by someone who has scan and not

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<v Speaker 3>be completely ridiculous. The IDF has launched an investigation and

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<v Speaker 3>so far subjected two soldiers to thirty days in military detention,

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<v Speaker 3>which is more than they would get if they had

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<v Speaker 3>killed actual Christian children in Palestine, says a Lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that this image is like, we spoke about this

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<v Speaker 3>in our group chat, but this is the it's one

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<v Speaker 3>image at Comic Book Evil. There are many reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>this is the thing that's blowing up for them. Ken

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<v Speaker 3>Paxton is investigating Act Blue. Act Blue is a major

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<v Speaker 3>donation website for Democratic candidates, is claiming that they have

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<v Speaker 3>continued to accept gift card donations, which could hide donations

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<v Speaker 3>from foreign individuals or corporations or even states. I suppose

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<v Speaker 3>the United States government's plans to send Afghans who are

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<v Speaker 3>stuck in Limbo and Kata to the democractic Republic of

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<v Speaker 3>Congo being reported on by the New York Times. Just

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<v Speaker 3>for some context here, I saw people sharing this and

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that they that this referred to Afghan SIV recipients

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<v Speaker 3>who are resident in the United States. That is not

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<v Speaker 3>what it's referring to. It's referring to people who the

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<v Speaker 3>Biden administration removed from Afghanistan or wherever they worked in

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<v Speaker 3>Pakistan right and then took them to katter As like

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<v Speaker 3>a temporary stopping off point where they would continue to

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<v Speaker 3>do their vetting and background checks. This is normal for

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<v Speaker 3>refugee admissions as opposed to asylum admissions. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four election happened, Democrats lost, and that's people

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<v Speaker 3>have been in limbo ever since, and it appears to

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration has been trying to get them various states

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<v Speaker 3>in Africa to accept them, and it's now proposing the

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic Republic of Congo, a country which already has a

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<v Speaker 3>significant refugee crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>Ron Desentis, who is term limited as governor, has been

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<v Speaker 2>jockeying for a position inside the Trump administration. Axios reports

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<v Speaker 2>Dessentis has expressed interest in being Secretary of War, attorney general,

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<v Speaker 2>or even a Supreme Court justice. Trump is expected to

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<v Speaker 2>reclassify marijuana as soon as maybe today. We're recording this

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, April twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Seconds fingers crossed.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier this week, Trump signed an executive order to advance

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<v Speaker 2>its psychedelic treatment for mental illness and possibly reschedule certain

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<v Speaker 2>substances which have completed phase three clinical trials.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is the real sign that their internal polling

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<v Speaker 5>is showing Trump really closing on getting blow thirty percent approval.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the most whatever, it's actual legal marijuana. Fuck it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such an easy win, and it's been an easy

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<v Speaker 3>win for the last three presidents.

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<v Speaker 4>And anyone could have done it. It's a gun that's

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<v Speaker 4>been left on the ground and fucking Trump finally just

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<v Speaker 4>picked the damn thing up after it got covered in

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<v Speaker 4>an inch and a half at dust.

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<v Speaker 1>Like unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>They're desperate, keep pushing. We can get like completely legal LSD.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe in us.

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<v Speaker 2>On Fox News's Sunday Morning Show, Cash Brittel announced that

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI will soon make arrests related to Trump's claims

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<v Speaker 2>that the twenty twenty election was stolen, with Patel saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>they tried to thwart our elections and rig the entire system.

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<v Speaker 6>I can announce on your show that we've got all

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<v Speaker 6>the information we need. We're working with our prosecutors, a

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<v Speaker 6>Department of Justice and their Attorney General Todd Blanche and

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<v Speaker 6>we are going to be making arrest and it's coming,

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<v Speaker 6>and I promise you it's coming soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Patel later said it's a conspiracy case and that quote,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the information to back President Trump's claims. On Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>voters in Virginia approved a redistrating measure which would likely

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<v Speaker 2>move four Republican seats to Democrat seats in the midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>This measure passed was fifty one point five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the vote, totaling over three million votes. Virginia joins California

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<v Speaker 2>in approving new congressional maps to combat the recent gerrymandering

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<v Speaker 2>in red states like Texas. At the behest of Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>but now with Virginia, Dems are actually up one seat nationally.

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<v Speaker 2>Ronda Santis has called for Florida lawmakers to meet next

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<v Speaker 2>week to consider redistricting in their state. Trump has called

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<v Speaker 2>the Virginia election quote unquote rigged, saying that Republicans were

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<v Speaker 2>winning until a quote massive mail in ballot drop un quote,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just how elections work. That's just how voting works.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we were winning until more people voted for the

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<v Speaker 4>other until.

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<v Speaker 2>We counted more votes that showed that we did not win.

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<v Speaker 5>We just live in the twenty sixteen election forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing pretty well in that boxing match until

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<v Speaker 4>it started.

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<v Speaker 3>Until the other guy punched me into face.

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<v Speaker 2>The margin of victory closely matches the result of the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four presidential election in Virginia. Republicans have challenged

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<v Speaker 2>the Virginia redistricting in court since before today's election, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court of Virginia ruled that the measure could

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<v Speaker 2>go to a vote while legal challenges continue. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the second most important election this week, the most important

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<v Speaker 2>one obviously being the Webbys, in which I think can

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<v Speaker 2>announce we have won in the unrigged election matters, the

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<v Speaker 2>only fair election that this country is seen possibly in

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<v Speaker 2>like over twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they selected Claude as Person of the Year.

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<v Speaker 4>Clearly, the Webbys in twenty twenty six are the only

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<v Speaker 4>election that's going to affect anybody's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can all agree on that anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>So as you probably are aware because the President shouts

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<v Speaker 4>about it every ten minutes, there's a ceasefire currently in

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<v Speaker 4>effect in the conflict with Iran, the war of choice

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<v Speaker 4>that we started with Iran. James is going to talk

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more about that in a second. But

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<v Speaker 4>because of the stand down, there's been kind of time

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<v Speaker 4>for both forces to you know, reassess things, and time

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<v Speaker 4>for outside people to reassess, like kind of what we

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<v Speaker 4>can tell about what's going on. Obviously in the immediate

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<v Speaker 4>wake of Operation Epic Fury, and is recently as last Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump said quote, we've taken out their navy, We've

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<v Speaker 4>taken out their air force, We've taken out their leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>On April eighth, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called Operation Epic

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<v Speaker 4>Fury a historic and overwhelming victory on the battlefield. By

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<v Speaker 4>any measure, Epic Fury decimated Iron's military and rendered it

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<v Speaker 4>combat and effective for years to come. Now that last sentence,

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<v Speaker 4>the first part is technically accurate, but not in the

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<v Speaker 4>way that Hegseth means.

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<v Speaker 3>No one knows what decimate means anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Decimate literally means to destroy like a tenth of a group.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, yea, And yeah, that's pretty accurate, right, But

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<v Speaker 4>the second part of that sentence, rendered it combat and

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<v Speaker 4>effective for years to come is not accurate. Neither is

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's statement that we've taken out their navy and their

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<v Speaker 4>air force. CBS published an article today reporting that roughly

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<v Speaker 4>sixty percent of the naval arm of the Islamic Revolutionary

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<v Speaker 4>Guard CORES is still in existence, including fast tag speedboats

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<v Speaker 4>and Iranian air power. While it's been degraded, is still

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<v Speaker 4>significantly more functional than actually I had assumed. About two

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<v Speaker 4>thirds of the Iranian Air force is still believed to

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<v Speaker 4>be operational despite the massive US and Israeli air strikes

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<v Speaker 4>largely targeting air production and storage facilities. The fact that

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at two thirds of Iran's navy and air

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<v Speaker 4>force still functional and at least about half their ballistic

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<v Speaker 4>missile stockpile and their launch system stockpile intact. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>significant difference from what the administration has claimed and evidence

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<v Speaker 4>that where we to continue to press with the open

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<v Speaker 4>fighting part of this conflict, it would be years probably

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<v Speaker 4>before you're talking about like a complete degradation of Iranian

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<v Speaker 4>fighting capability if that was ever achieved, Like when you

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<v Speaker 4>factor in the United States would continue to suffer casualties,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've already been losing more of you know, particularly

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<v Speaker 4>our interceptor missile capability and a number of advanced systems

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<v Speaker 4>like a wax then we can avoid to replace James.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I want to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 3>the ceasefire itself, right, and then like what's been happening there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start with, like I guess straight off, hor mows

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<v Speaker 3>updates and then get into the ceasefire. The Navy intercepted

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<v Speaker 3>an Iranian vessel in the in the Arabian Sea this week,

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<v Speaker 3>close to the Iran Pakistan border. The Tuska was warned.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine they use an l rad to warn it. People

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<v Speaker 3>see l rads on ships sometimes that think they're coming

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<v Speaker 3>to like make you deaf. That's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 3>of ships have lrads. But they could have also used

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<v Speaker 3>a radio that if they can talk to them on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio of they're receiving communications with the radio. They

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<v Speaker 3>then ordered it to evacuate its engine room. They then

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<v Speaker 3>shut out its engine with the five inch gun.

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<v Speaker 1>First time they've gotten to do that in forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was looking at I guess it was. It

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<v Speaker 3>was since what nineteen eighty eight the last time that

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking it's it's been a lot. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>a minute since its ship engaged in the ship with

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<v Speaker 3>its main gun. It was a USS Spruance, a guided

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<v Speaker 3>missile destroyer that did that. Subsequently, US marines on the

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<v Speaker 3>Tripoli we were reported on when the Tripoli first moved

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<v Speaker 3>towards that region. Right, We specifically said that this is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the capacities that it had they boarded the ship,

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<v Speaker 3>so they transferred to by helicopter and then boarded the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>The US has since inspected other ships, including outside of

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<v Speaker 3>the Saint Comeo. So the US perceives its blockade to

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<v Speaker 3>be global right of Iranian assets, of Iranian vessels and

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<v Speaker 3>the quote unquote shadow fleet, which we've already explained on

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<v Speaker 3>D so I'm not going to go into depth on

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<v Speaker 3>what that means. The IOGC also fired at several vessels

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<v Speaker 3>in the street. There is some reporting that one of them,

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<v Speaker 3>an Indian tanker, had paid a fee in cryptocurrency to

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<v Speaker 3>what turned out to be a scammer. I am certain

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<v Speaker 3>that these scams exist because there have been multiple warnings

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<v Speaker 3>of them. I haven't seen any evidence that is satisfactory

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<v Speaker 3>enough for me to be confident that that particular ship

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<v Speaker 3>had been scammed. But perhaps the most compelling piece of

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<v Speaker 3>evidence a ship is called the San mar Herald. Is

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<v Speaker 3>this audio that we're going to play right here, if my.

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<v Speaker 7>Baby sef my naby, is this modeling a San Marda.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me Clarence to go, my name second.

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<v Speaker 2>On your list.

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<v Speaker 3>You get me Clarence to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You are fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>Now let me turn back. Just to guess I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>clear you gave me clearance to go. You're firing now,

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<v Speaker 3>let me turn back. So it does seem that that

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<v Speaker 3>vessel believed that it had clearance to go and was

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<v Speaker 3>sent fired upon This morning, there was some ocynth pictures

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<v Speaker 3>of IIGC and they looked like kind of fast attack

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<v Speaker 3>boat kind of things. Throughout what was talking about in

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<v Speaker 3>the Strait of Hornmuz Yeah, something of a flex Yay,

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<v Speaker 3>we still have a navy like yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's important in the context of the ceasefire. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to explain very briefly, there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>contradictory reporting on when, where, and how negotiations are going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. The ceasefire was set to expire the day

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<v Speaker 3>we're recording Wednesday. On Tuesday, we saw Donald Trump laterally

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<v Speaker 3>extend the ceasefire by truthing quote based on the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that the government of Iran it's seriously fractured, not unexpectedly so,

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<v Speaker 3>and upon the request of Field Marshal Simonia and Prime

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<v Speaker 3>Minister Shabbad Sharif of Pakistan, we have been asked to

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<v Speaker 3>hold our attack on the country of Iran until such

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<v Speaker 3>time as their leaders and representatives can come up with

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<v Speaker 3>a unified proposal. I have therefore directed our military to

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<v Speaker 3>continue the blockade and in all other respects remained ready

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<v Speaker 3>and able, and will therefore extend the cease fire until

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<v Speaker 3>such time as their proposalists submitted and discussions are concluded

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<v Speaker 3>one way or the other. President Donald J. Trump, the

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<v Speaker 3>consensus seems to me that this is not like an

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<v Speaker 3>infinite extension. This is like maybe less than a week

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<v Speaker 3>for Iran to either comply with US terms or submit proposals.

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<v Speaker 3>In the US consider it's acceptable. A lot of that

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<v Speaker 3>reporting does seem to come from Baraque Revied, who's not

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<v Speaker 3>really good at journalism, so take it with the pinch

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<v Speaker 3>of salt. Trump, though, is correct that the state of

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<v Speaker 3>Iran is on a unified entity, and I covered this

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<v Speaker 3>in the piece I did last week on an update

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<v Speaker 3>on the Iron War, Right, Like, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>tendency from people in the global North to look at

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<v Speaker 3>a state and see it as like a pyramid. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the head of state, and then you have government,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have legislature, and then you have the

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<v Speaker 3>people they commanded, right, military and all the civil bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not quite how Iran works, and I went into

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<v Speaker 3>more detail in that episode that I made, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to go into it here. But there are

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<v Speaker 3>a series of overlapping but not entirely aligned power centers

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<v Speaker 3>within Iran and within its military capacity, both within its

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<v Speaker 3>military and traditional sense and within the IIGC. Why this

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<v Speaker 3>is relevant to the negotiations is it's not possible for

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<v Speaker 3>politicians to negotiate if they do not believe that they

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<v Speaker 3>can agree to terms and that their military will then

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<v Speaker 3>comply with those terms. Right. If the Iranian Foreign ministry

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<v Speaker 3>agrees with the US to do something, the IGC doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>do it, that then immediately undermines any further negotiations.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we see, for instance, this morning, a large

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<v Speaker 3>number of boats going into straight upform news, that looks

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit like a flex right, in the context

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<v Speaker 3>of this power struggle, In the context of Trump acknowledging

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump has once again been truthing this week about

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<v Speaker 3>Iranian nuclear weapons, I'm just going to read one of

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<v Speaker 3>his truths because I think it contains it shows that

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<v Speaker 3>the administration feels that it is weak on this particular accusation.

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<v Speaker 3>Israel never talked me into the war with Iran. The

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<v Speaker 3>results of October seventh added to my lifelong opinion that

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<v Speaker 3>Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. Did Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what's going on with that sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just that's that's Iran can never have a nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>weapon in karmadd did the word did?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I'm not reading that wrong. Yes, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>Just what he says. Yeah, he's simply senile.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't help you. I'm just saying the words. I

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<v Speaker 3>watch it and read the fake news pundits and polls

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<v Speaker 3>in total disbelief of what they say are lies and

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<v Speaker 3>made up stories, and the polls are rigged, much as

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty presidential election was rigged, Just like the

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<v Speaker 3>results in Venezuela, which the media doesn't like talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>The results in.

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<v Speaker 3>Iran will be amazing and if it RAN's new leaders

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<v Speaker 3>regime changed, exclamation mark clothes, parentheses are smart, Iran can

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<v Speaker 3>have a great and prosperous future. President DJT. That's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the more challenging passages of English language texts that

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever approached. I speak four or five languages, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's why I set me back. But I've tried

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<v Speaker 3>to give you a good faith reading of it. He's

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<v Speaker 3>clearly sensitive to the allegation that Israel pushed the US

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<v Speaker 3>into this conflict. Right, He's clearly sensitive. The last thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I want to add is that strikes on Kurdish

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<v Speaker 3>groups have continued despite the ceasefire, right despite the renewed

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<v Speaker 3>cease fire the PAK. Just two hours after Trump announced

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<v Speaker 3>the extension of the ceasefire, Tehran sent four drones to

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<v Speaker 3>attack a PAK base. There have been more injuries in Kurdistan.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't seem that Iran considers any ceasefire to apply

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<v Speaker 3>to its ongoing attack against Detroit Gilati groups who are

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<v Speaker 3>currently in southern Kurdistan inside the borders of Iraq.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up, we will discuss the charges against the SPLC,

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<v Speaker 2>But first listen to these airs. Okay, we are back.

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<v Speaker 2>On Tuesday, April twenty first, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche

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<v Speaker 2>and FBI Director Cash Battel announced that a grand jury

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<v Speaker 2>indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center on eleven counts, including

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<v Speaker 2>wire fraud, false statements to a federally insured bank, and

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy to commit to concealment money laundering. The indictment argues

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<v Speaker 2>that the SPLC defrauded their donors by using donation money

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<v Speaker 2>to pay confidential informants within white premacist or neo Nazi organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is a short clip of the press conference of

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<v Speaker 2>a reporter asking Todd Blanche a question.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to make sure I understand you're alleging

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<v Speaker 5>that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders

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<v Speaker 5>of KKK and other groups to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Their operations.

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<v Speaker 8>Is that I'm not alleging it the grandeurary return and

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<v Speaker 8>indictment that says that, and so what what the what

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<v Speaker 8>the investigation found, according to the indictment that was returned today,

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<v Speaker 8>is that they were paying So so, the Southern Poverty

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<v Speaker 8>Law Center is raising money, asking folks to give them

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<v Speaker 8>money to dismount racism, and over a very long period

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<v Speaker 8>of time, they were using some of the money they

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<v Speaker 8>raised from donors to pay to they call them feel

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<v Speaker 8>you know, basically, to informants too, for information, for access,

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<v Speaker 8>to just pay them for for certain to do certain things.

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<v Speaker 8>And and so yes, that's exactly what the indictment charges.

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<v Speaker 2>The SPLC is a nonprofit advocacy organization aimed at quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote dismantling white supremacy and exposing hate. They operate a

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<v Speaker 2>blog called hate Watch and run a public database of

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<v Speaker 2>hate groups and far right extremists. This indictment claims that

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<v Speaker 2>the SPLC is utilized informants to gained information on far

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<v Speaker 2>right activity since the eighties, but between twenty fourteen and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, the SPLC secretly paid over three million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to individuals associated with various violent extruist groups quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote in a clandestine manner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, one, if you kind of have been in the

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<v Speaker 4>world of CVE countering violent extremism like research, or like

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<v Speaker 4>involved in NGOs in that sphere at all, or a

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<v Speaker 4>been a researcher there, you're probably aware of the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that the SPLC, like has been paying informants. A lot

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<v Speaker 4>of their scoops are because some Nazi tells on another Nazi,

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<v Speaker 4>essentially right, So that part isn't surprising. The weirdness is

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<v Speaker 4>how the SPLC was going about it and how much

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<v Speaker 4>fucking money they were giving.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these The amounts of some of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, yeah, it was legitimately shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do want to get into some more details

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<v Speaker 2>about those amounts in the groups and the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>nest of fake businesses the SPLC used to distribute this money,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the indictment. The indictment reads that this was

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<v Speaker 2>domnination money quote received under the auspice that the funds

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<v Speaker 2>would be used to qu unquote dismantle violent extremist groups.

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<v Speaker 2>This money was instead being used in part by the

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<v Speaker 2>SBLC to pay leaders and others within these same violent

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<v Speaker 2>extremist groups. That money was then used for the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of the individuals as well as the violent extremist groups.

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<v Speaker 1>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Money was funneled to individuals associated with violent extreamist groups

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<v Speaker 2>including the klu Klux Klan, the United Clans of America,

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<v Speaker 2>Unite the Right, National Alliance, National Socialist Movement, Aryan Nations,

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<v Speaker 2>and the affiliated Sadistic Soul's Motorcycle Club, National Socialist Party

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<v Speaker 2>of America, American Nazi Party, and American Front. One informant,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the indictment, was quote a member of the

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<v Speaker 2>online leadership chat group that planned the twenty seventeen Unite

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<v Speaker 2>the Right event in Charlottesville, Virginia, and attended the event

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<v Speaker 2>at the direction of the SPLC. This informant made racist

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<v Speaker 2>postings under the supervision of the SPLC and helped coordinate

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<v Speaker 2>transportation to the event for several attendees. Between twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty twenty three, the SPLC secretly paid this informant

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<v Speaker 2>more than two hundred and seventy thousand dollars. From twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen to twenty twenty three, more than one million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>was allegedly paid to someone affiliated with the National Alliance

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<v Speaker 2>who served as an informant for over twenty years while

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<v Speaker 2>fundraising for this Nazi group. The Imperial Wizard of the

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<v Speaker 2>Rebooted Imperial Clans of America was a paid informant, according

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<v Speaker 2>to the indictment. This is likely a guy named Bradley Jenkins,

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<v Speaker 2>an officer in the National Socialist Movement and the Aryan

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<v Speaker 2>Nations affiliated Sadistic Soul's Motorcycle Club, secretly received more than

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred thousand dollars Between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>The former chairman of the National Alliance was secretly paid

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<v Speaker 2>more than one hundred and four twenty thousand dollars, while

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<v Speaker 2>the SPLC website featured an extremist profile page for this individual,

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<v Speaker 2>likely Eric Glebe. The SPLC also paid the leader of

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<v Speaker 2>the National Socialist Party of America seventy thousand dollars between

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. This individual was a former

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<v Speaker 2>director of an Aryan Nations faction and a former member

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<v Speaker 2>of the KKK. This is likely a guy named Paul Mullett,

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<v Speaker 2>who the SBLC hosts an extremist file web page on

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<v Speaker 2>their website. A few other unidentified informants are listed in

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<v Speaker 2>the indictment, as well as a claim that the SPLC

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<v Speaker 2>funneled more than one hundred and sixty thousand dollars from

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<v Speaker 2>a fictitious entity to an informant quote, who then sent

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<v Speaker 2>funds to various violent extremist group leaders, including the former

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Wizard of the Knights of the klu Klux Klan unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of money now. To obscure the nature

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<v Speaker 2>of these payments, the SBLC opened a series of bank

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<v Speaker 2>accounts at multiple banks for various fictitious businesses. These weren't

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<v Speaker 2>actually incorporated, but they claimed to be businesses with names

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<v Speaker 2>like the Center Investigative Agency or the CIA. Why Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Photography, Northwest Technologies, Tech Writers Group, Rare Books, Warehouse Imagery, Inc.

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<v Speaker 2>JNJ Electronics, Kelly's Marine and Turner Personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>Great good work guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, the DOJ is arguing that the SBLC solicited donations

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<v Speaker 2>under false pretenses and then transferred that money to extremist

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<v Speaker 2>groups using a network of fake businesses. To get a conviction,

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<v Speaker 2>the DOG will have to argue that this activity constitutes wirefraud,

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<v Speaker 2>false statements to a federally insured bank, and conspiracy to

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<v Speaker 2>commit concealment money laundering. A conviction will result in the

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<v Speaker 2>forfeiture of financial gains from the alleged illegal activities. The

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<v Speaker 2>right has reacted to this news by calling the Unite

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<v Speaker 2>the Right rally and kind of the alt right movement

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<v Speaker 2>as it existed from this time period a syop or

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<v Speaker 2>a false flag. Senator Mike Lee, right wing political influencer

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Sorter, and Elon Musk have boosted these claims, getting

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of likes on

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<v Speaker 2>x the Everything app. This seems to be a new narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really new, I guess, but an enhanced narrative

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<v Speaker 2>that is emerging among the online right as a way

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<v Speaker 2>to dissuade some of the uglier parts of that era

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<v Speaker 2>while still carrying along a lot of the same politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially on the Great Replacement, which is more of a

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream idea among the conservative movement at this point in time,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're able to walk away from the uglier kind

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<v Speaker 2>of imagery and explicitly not see elements of this like

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<v Speaker 2>the KKK, which is very boomer very very Boomer coded

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<v Speaker 2>the KKKA, so they're able to call stuff like that

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<v Speaker 2>and the Unite the Right Rally a syop or a

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<v Speaker 2>false flag while still reaping the benefits that the alt

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<v Speaker 2>right movement achieved by kind of trailblazing certain rhetoric into

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<v Speaker 2>the conservative mainstream. Right wing commentators have also used this

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<v Speaker 2>news to reassert one of their favorite claims that Patriot

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<v Speaker 2>Front is a psyop or a false flag operation, that

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<v Speaker 2>whenever a group of young Nazis show up in a

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>U haul all wearing matching outfits and masks, that this

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>is a staged event by either the deep State, the FEDS,

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 2>or a group like the SBLC. Patriot Front is not

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 2>actually named in this indictment. There's no evidence that the

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 2>SPLC was paying anyone at Patriot Front to inform on

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>the operations of that group, and obviously paying an individual

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 2>to inform on the details of an upcoming event like

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Unite the Right. Does not mean that the Unite the

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Right event in Charlottesville was planned or staged by the SPLC.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Dozens of people were involved in the planning of this event,

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:05.719
<v Speaker 2>and hundreds participated of their own volition. One person in

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 2>a planning group chat sending info to the SPLC does

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<v Speaker 2>not mean that this action was staged or fake.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone who's in the field has had a lot of

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 4>issues with the SPLC over the last few years, especially

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 4>people who work for them. I have a lot of

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of a lot of good people

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 4>have worked for them and gotten fucked over by them.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 4>They did a lot of union busting too. The people

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 4>who run the SPLC, and some of them are the

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 4>people who are specifically accused of having committed these crimes.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I feel like that, like the

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<v Speaker 4>specific things they have to prove in order to date

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 4>a conviction are accurate, because fundamentally, anyone who donated to

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 4>the SPLC knew that they were like getting shipped from informants,

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, like I don't think that was like the

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 4>amount of money though, is shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what That's what they're gonna have to defend in court. Yeah,

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 2>they're going to have to have to argue that the

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>money that was donated was used for its intended purpose,

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>which was dismantling white premisies. You'll have to say that

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 2>the information that they obtained through these through through paying

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 2>these informants, was still in furtherance of that mission. Right,

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be what they're going to defend in court. Now.

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously the FBI also uses information, sure, right,

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 2>the FBI does this same thing. Famously, the FBI paid

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the OH nine A affiliated Joshua Caleb Sutter over one

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty thousand dollars. From twenty three to twenty

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 2>twenty one.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>The FBI funded a publishing.

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>House, a neo Nazi publishing house essentially yeah yeah, yeah,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>which is responsible for, in part, the political direction of

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the atom off in division. Now, Acting Attorney General Todd

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<v Speaker 2>Blanche has said that quote, the SBLC is manufacturing racism

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to justify its existence end quote. Using donor money to

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>allegedly profit off klansmen cannot go unchecked.

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Unquote.

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Patel has said that quote this is illegal and this

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>is an ongoing investigation against all individuals involved. The SBLC

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>released a video statement saying that the use of informants

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>was quote unquote necessary and claimed, quote these individuals risked

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>their lives to infiltrate and inform on the activities of

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>our nation's most radical and violent extremist groups unquote. The

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>indictment does not characterize many of these informants as quote

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 2>unquote infiltrators, but rather individuals who were already members of

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 2>these groups and were paid by the SBLC to share

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>information and gossip on fellow members. The SBLC statement also

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>said that they quote frequently shared what we learned from

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>informants with local and federal law enforcement, including the FBI.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>We did not, however, share our use of informants broadly

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>with anyone to protect the identity and safety of the

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>informants and their families unquote. Like a lot of the

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>people in this field, the FBI knew the SBLC was

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>doing this.

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 2>After the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Cash, Betel announced that

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the FBI was severing ties with the SBOC, saying the

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 2>organization had been turned into a quote unquote partisan smear

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>machine that defamed quote unquote mainstream Americans.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>With its hate map Okay.

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Attorney Ed Martin, former head of the DOJ's Weaponization Working

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Group as in weaponizing the DOJ against political enemies, shared

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>news of the indictment on x everything app and wrote, quote,

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 2>they killed Charlie and they will pay unquote. So clearly

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>this prosecution is politically motivated, right. There is political motivations

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>behind behind deciding to do this right now. The FBI

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>already knew that this was happening to a certain extent,

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 2>but now they are going after the SBOC as a

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>part of a targeted political prosecution, and this indictment could

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>be seen as part of the anti Antifa nonprofit crackdown.

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Last March, CBS News reported that the FBI and the

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 2>IRS formed a new initiative to investigate fraad at nonprofit

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 2>organizations with suspected links to domestic terrorism, following federal directives

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>to pursue Antifa aligned groups. A spokesperson from the IRS

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:15.479
<v Speaker 2>told CBS News quote, IRS Criminal Investigation is collaborating with

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, to investigate individuals

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and entities that may be funding domestic terrorism or political violence.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's unfortunate that the SPLC was so reckless and sloppy,

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 4>and the fucking amounts are shocking and indefensible, and again

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 4>not necessarily in a legal sense. Like I'm very doubtful

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:44.959
<v Speaker 4>of the government's case, but I am very angry at

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 4>the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I don't think it

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 4>should continue to exist as an organization if it's going

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 4>to do this.

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like when you combine this, as you say,

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>like anyone who works in this world, people working there

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>had a mitiable time for a long time, for a

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 3>great variety of reasons.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm I'm livid at them.

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is obviously evidence that the Trump administration is

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 4>doing what they've said they're doing that, Like the DOJ

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 4>is going to be looking into these like big you know,

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 4>liberal and left aligned in goos, particularly that like are

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 4>focused in combating the far right. But in terms of

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>this showing any reason to be like scared that they're

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 4>going to disappear people Like, No, the SPOC did something crazy,

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think that the charges specifically are valid,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.719
<v Speaker 4>but like they open themselves up to get fucked with

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 4>by doing something so not like give one of these

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 4>people a million dollars a million dollars.

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's wild.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why do they have a fake company named after

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the CIA? What are you guys doing?

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, someone thought they were being a really cool secret spy.

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>And I mean those those are some of the charges

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 2>that may be able to stick. Is the sort of

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>stuff about misrepresenting, Yeah to a federally insured bank, that

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 2>that type of stuff could be easier to argue based

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 2>on what I've read in the indictment. But of course

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>that'll get settled in court.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 5>And as a way to sort of close this out,

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 5>I think one of the things that we're running into

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 5>here is one of the things that the right is

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 5>being able to use here is the fact that a

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 5>lot of these sort of liberal and central left NGOs

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 5>absolutely sucked and like we have covered on this show,

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, a whole bunch of these organizations do in

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 5>union busting, and they're like their priorities don't necessarily match

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 5>what you know, I would say ours should be. And

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 5>I think this is something that this administration is going

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 5>to continue to sort of in some ways use as

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 5>a rift point, like the fact that these groups are

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 5>doing all of this unhinged shit, right, this is this

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 5>is the political consequence of the structure that these NGOs

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 5>use in the way that they've operated, and now there's

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 5>sort of chickens are coming home to roost.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to talk this week in our immigration segment

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 3>about the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service. This is

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 3>the agency task with vetting and adjudicating immigration benefits. It's

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 3>the only immigration agency at DHS, so traditionally hasn't done

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 3>enforcement sweeps right. So for a while, particularly recently, people

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 3>there have felt a little out of place at the

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.919
<v Speaker 3>Department of Homeland Security. Right. The idea has been keep

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 3>enforcement and processing separate so that people don't have very

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 3>reasonable reasons to fear doing the legal process. Right, So

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 3>people continue to show up to their interviews, to submit

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 3>their documents, etc. And generally they are funded in a

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 3>large part by immigration fees and perceived as the friendly

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 3>and more welcoming side of the process. Their job isn't

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 3>historically has not been to kind of root out bad

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 3>migration as so much as to help people, or at

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 3>least to process people to do the bureaucratic part of migration.

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Under the second Trump administration, however, this has changed. There

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 3>have been detentions at interviews, there have been cancelations of

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 3>citizenships ceremonies. The USCAS has begun hiring for a new position,

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>and this new position is eligible for remote work, for

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 3>more remote work than existing hires, and it's called the

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Homeland Defender. So like we probably many people have seen

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 3>these Homeland Defender advertisements on x dot com the everything website. Right,

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Homeland Defenders been offered up to fifty thousand dollars in

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 3>signing bonuses, and at the same time as offering remote

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 3>work benefits for the Homeland Defenders, the agency has been

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>forcing other people to return to offices that could no

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 3>longer fit the number of staff it had and the

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 3>years of work from home. The agency grew and changed

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 3>right like almost every organization did, and there were reports

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 3>that you literally had like lawyers sitting in corridors working

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 3>on their laptops or like trying to perch on a

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 3>radiator or window sill because their offices could fit people right.

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 3>And at the same time, the branding around Homeland Defender

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 3>is not the way that USCIS staff traditionally saw themselves.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 3>In Minnesota, USCAS has begun reinvestigating people admitted with the

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 3>incredibly highly vetted refugee status, so we already spoke about

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 3>it once today. Right, the refugees are vetted before they

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 3>even enter the United States. Across the country, executive orders

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>were followed with memos pausing or entirely stopping the process

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 3>of legal and veted immigration for people from an increasing

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 3>number of countries. The legally mandated green cards for adult

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 3>children and siblings or current citistants, as well as spouses

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 3>and minor children of existing permanent residents has gone unfulfilled.

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 3>This is quote unquote family based migration. They used to

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 3>call it chain migration. Right. That used to be the

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 3>language on the right. It's something that Trump administration has

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 3>hated since its first term. Right, this has been a

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 3>thing that they spoke about and that has been spoken

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 3>about on the right for some time. These green cards

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 3>could be reused for employment based claims, which is going

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 3>to have a much larger number of people who are

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 3>already in the country. It's not bringing new people in

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.720
<v Speaker 3>or they might go unused. Refugees are being detained without

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 3>any clear legal authority and requizzed about their applications. According

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to reporting in The New Yorker, this means that people

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 3>are being taken in detained at an ice facility right

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 3>and then quiz about stuff that they'd already been asked

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 3>about before they came to the United States. When they

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 3>were doing that vetting, people who are married to United

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 3>States citizens are being arrested at interviews, even though generally

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>there was an amnesty of people who, for instance, had

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.399
<v Speaker 3>overstate a visa and then got married before. USCIS has

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 3>also committed significant resources of the agency that may well

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 3>have been taken away from processing claims and devoted them

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 3>entirely to investigating naturalizations with the goal of denaturalizing naturalized

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 3>United States citizens. This is very differ got process right.

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 3>The Afreem case is the Supreme Court case which governs

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 3>this right. It where refers to someone who was a

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 3>Jewish communist or had been in Israel. What it says

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.479
<v Speaker 3>is the government cannot de citizenize someone because it doesn't

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 3>agree with their politics, even in the time of anti communism. Right.

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 3>Once somebody becomes a citizen, their files are removed from

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 3>USCIS and they go to the National Record Center, and

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 3>so calling the presumably tens of thousands of files of

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 3>naturalized United States citizens and hundreds of thousands over time

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 3>millions right would require some kind of filter. The most

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 3>likely way this is being filtered is through their nationality right.

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 3>One can imagine, for instance, that the seventy five countries

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Trump has paused green card processes for might be a start,

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 3>or their specific focus on Somali people might even prove

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 3>a more focused way of doing it right. They have

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 3>had some success this week, a Belizean woman was found

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 3>guilty of naturalization fraud for submitting a fake divorce degree

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 3>she married an American citizen without being divorced from a

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 3>previous spouse. Belize they found that she had falsified those

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 3>documents right. They are also pursuing a case against a

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Nigerian man who's already been convicted of fraud and has

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 3>already been put in prison for that, but they are

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 3>now pursuing a denaturalization case as well. Virtually every interaction

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 3>with USCIS now seems to require interviews in person and

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 3>biometric connection. This means that applicants now have to come

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 3>into an office where they know that people have been detained,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 3>and this leads to people being afraid to do that right.

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Petitions are slowing down as they're moved around to a

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 3>dwindling workforce which is still focused on processing those as

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>opposed to the growing amount of the USCIS workforce which

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 3>is looking for quote unquote fraud in applications or attempting

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<v Speaker 3>to denaturalize people. As we just covered, among the people

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 3>waiting without visas are some people who are waiting for

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 3>special visas, which are given to people who are survivors

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 3>of human trafficking, gender based violence, or other crimes. This

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 3>includes children. There's especially immigrant Juvenile visa, which every single

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 3>person I've heard of coming on an SIJA visa has

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 3>had things happen to them which I didn't struggle to

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 3>think about. That we keep you up at night, and

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 3>the thought that those people are waiting in limbo because

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to denaturalize people is particularly upsetting. I'm sure

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 3>it's also upsetting to some people who've worked at USCIS

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 3>their whole life, and I know that morale among those

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>people is pretty low. While the agency sort of has

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>changed beyond all recognition in the last couple of years.

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Talking of changing beyond all recognition, we're going to now

0:40:56.280 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 3>pivot from journalism to probably some adverts for online Yeah,

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 3>it would be shocking and jarring.

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>You could change your life beyond all recognition. If you

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 3>have a big win like that or a big loss. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 3>you can change your life that way. Derekson, we're not

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:13.959
<v Speaker 3>supposed to mention that.

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>We're back.

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 4>And we all just voted on Forbes dot COM's newest

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 4>prediction contest, how many people will be wounded in the

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 4>next three American mass shootings.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. There's a big prize for this one.

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Sick.

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's only slightly an exaggeration of what Forbes is

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 4>actually doing. Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty gross. It's pretty

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 4>really hideous.

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, guys, it's not it's not a market, it's

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 2>just our prediction platform.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Prediction platform.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 2>There's no real money, only social capital.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 3>That could be the slogan of most journalistic enterprise is

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty six, to be honest, Yeah, Forbes has

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of been a blog rather than a news website.

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.280
<v Speaker 3>But this is still pretty disgusting.

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of there being no real money. Yeah, let's talk

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 2>about the Federal Reserve.

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 5>So when we last left are I hesitate to call

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 5>them heroes, But when we last left the Federal Reserve Board,

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 5>there was a very obviously cooked up investigation by the

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Justice Department into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. This investigation

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 5>doesn't really seem to have advanced at all, but the

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 5>conflict over Powell and over Powell's replacement has been intensifying

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 5>in recent weeks. Last week, on the fifteenth of April,

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 5>Trump threatened to fire Powell if Powell stayed on as

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 5>basically the temporary Federal Reserve Chair after his term expired. Now,

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 5>the reason this is happening is because Trump's attempt to

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 5>get someone confirmed to replace Powell has not been going well,

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 5>and if no one is confirmed by May fifteenth, then

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 5>the office is just empty. And Powell has said that

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 5>he wants to stay on and become the temporary chair.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 5>This is sort of unprecedented, but then again, we've also

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 5>not ever had the president's open an investigation into the

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 5>sitting chair of the Federal Reserve, causing him to give

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 5>a reverse hostage video. So where things are right now

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 5>is that we are getting hearings on Trump's preferred nominee,

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 5>a man named Kevin Walsh. However, there is a real

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 5>problem with worsh as as a candidate that's not doesn't

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 5>have anything to do with who he is. We'll get

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 5>to that in a second. The biggest issue that Trump

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 5>is facing here is that Tom Tillis, who's an outgoing

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Republican Senator, is refusing to let any Trump appointee pass

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 5>through the Finance Committee unless Trump ends the investigation into

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 5>Jerome Powell. So this has had everything at a complete standstill.

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 5>It was sort of unclear though a lot of different

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 5>Republican senators had threatened to do something like this, But

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 5>because Tillis is just leaving, he's just he's retiring at

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 5>the end of this, at the end of the session.

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.399
<v Speaker 5>He's the one who's you know, up there doing it.

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 5>And this has ground the nomination to a halt. We're

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 5>still getting hearings, but there's no way for him to

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 5>actually get a vote to get get this process out

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:40.720
<v Speaker 5>of committee. So into this morass steps Kevin Walsh, who

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 5>he's not the most unhinged guy Trump could have picked

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 5>high bar.

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 3>This is, at least.

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 5>Nominally, on the surface, sort of a fed guy like

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 5>he has worked for the Federal Reserve Federal Reserve banks before.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 5>He's not a podcasting right, yes, actually actually.

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>That he might have one. There's a non zero chance.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 5>He might be. He might be. I I don't know,

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 5>but I am not willing to say that he is

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 5>not one. So now this, this, this whole nomination has

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 5>also become a mess because again, as as we've been

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 5>talking about, the reason why Trump wants to basically take

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 5>dirrect control of the Federal Reserve and and FED independence

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 5>by installing his guys as a chairman of the Federal

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Reserve Board is that he wants to FED well, he

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 5>wants to be able to control the FED so he

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 5>can control interest rates.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>He wants interest rates cut.

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 5>Now, this is coming up a lot in the hearings,

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 5>and so far Walsh is giving answers that if you've

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 5>ever watched the testimony of someone who's who's trying to

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 5>get onto the Supreme Court, it's a lot like that,

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 5>where they he is saying the things that he is

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 5>supposed to see. He's saying that he opposes an interest

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 5>rate cut. He's saying that the primary job of the

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 5>FED is the combat inflation. He's saying that he believes

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 5>in FED independents. But he also has said that Trump

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 5>has not asked him to cut interest rates. And Elizabeth Warren,

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 5>who has been sort of leading the Democratic charge against this,

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:21.919
<v Speaker 5>has pointed out a number of things, one of which

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.720
<v Speaker 5>is in workerboard. He gets some more of the weird

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 5>shit with him in a second. But one of the

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 5>major things here is that the President has said that

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 5>he's asked Worsh to do just rate cuts. So somebody's

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 5>lying here. Worsh isn't giving non answers about that. I'm

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 5>also just going to read this quote from the Associated

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 5>Press quote. Warren also noted that Worsh has not disclosed

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 5>all of his financial holdings, which include investments in startups

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 5>and private companies, or the size of those financial stakes.

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 5>For example, Worsh has said he has holdings in SpaceX

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 5>and polymarkets, but has not said how large those investments are.

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Great, well, you can't win them off.

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So later on Warre said he would divest from

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 5>one hundred million dollars in investments. But you know this

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 5>is great. Warren also points out that he's in the

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 5>Epstein files because Epstein apparently invited him and his wife

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 5>to a party. It is unclear at this point what

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 5>what a connection he had, or if there was more,

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 5>But that's not a great sign. Where we are right

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 5>now is that Worsh is normal enough of a guy

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 5>that Tom Tillis is willing to vote for him if

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 5>the investigation is dropped. Tillis and some other members of

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 5>the committee have been Republican members of the committee have

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 5>been talking about this scheme to get the investigation transferred

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 5>from the Department of Justice to the Senate Committee. I

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 5>think at which point they could basically just kill it

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 5>or just have it be a thing into budget overruns.

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 5>That's not like an attempt to depose their own Powell.

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 5>That's it's not clear what's going to happen with that,

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 5>and it hasn't started yet. This is the point that

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 5>we're at right now. This conflict is going to keep

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 5>heating up as the May fifteenth deadline for getting a

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.760
<v Speaker 5>new nominee in before the board vacancy happens and Jerome

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Powell basically stays in power longer than his terminally last happens.

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 5>So we're going to keep following this story. And there's

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 5>one other story that we are going to keep following,

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 5>which is there was an exclusive by the Wall Street Journal,

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 5>which is a report This is from unioned US officials,

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 5>but it claims that the uas Central Bank governor is

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 5>reportedly trying to get what's called a currency swap with

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 5>the US. So what a currency swap is basically is,

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 5>it's like it's a way to try to fix an

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 5>exchange rate and get a country a certain amount of

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 5>US dollars by just like just at the fixed exchange rate,

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 5>just like swapping X amount of dollars for x amounts

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 5>of another country's currency. This report was immediately denied, very

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 5>very quickly denied by a series of posts on x

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 5>the everything app by the UAE's embassy to the US

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 5>where they gave a thing. Trump also had like started

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 5>talking about this too. I'm just gonna read a little

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 5>bit of this quote. We very much appreciate President Trump's

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 5>recognition of the UAE is one of America's most important

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 5>economic and trade partners. That recognition reflects a depth the

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 5>mutual trust based on mutual investment, et cetera, et cetera,

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 5>et cetera. Any suggestion that the UAE requires external financial

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:33.359
<v Speaker 5>backing misreads the facts. The UAE is one of the

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 5>most financially resilient economies, underpinned by more than two trillion

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 5>dollars in the sovereign assets, more than three hundred billion

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:44.240
<v Speaker 5>dollars in foreign currency reserves held by the UAE Central

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 5>Bank and banking sectors with approximately one point five trillion

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.280
<v Speaker 5>in deposits. So when they start listening out the deposits,

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 5>that's when things are not going great.

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, the.

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Issue here and something this is what the wallsher Jourtle

0:49:56.320 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 5>is talking about, is that this is not an IDIA proposal.

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 5>This is a proposal for what's becoming increasingly clear, which

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 5>is that there's no there's not actually an end to

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 5>the war and Iran in sight. And if the strade

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 5>out from Moves remains closed, this is an existential crisis

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 5>for the UAE because not only are all of their

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 5>exports stopped, you know, like the UE itself is just

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 5>physically under threat, is infrastructure is under threat, and it's

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 5>very difficult for them to get more investments. And this

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 5>could in the future start a dollar crisis of the

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 5>kind that we've talked about on this show before Go

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 5>if you want to, Yeah, I've talked about basically dollar

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 5>crises and how you can have balance of payments crises

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 5>for running out of US dollars. What's interesting about this

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 5>reports and the reason that we're sort of talking about

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.439
<v Speaker 5>it right now, is that one of the things that

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 5>the UAE reportedly was mentioning was that they might be

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 5>forced to turn the Chinese currency.

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Its Basically, they might be forced to like sell.

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 5>Oil in Chinese currency in order to like get it

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 5>through the straight, which would be a apockal shift to

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 5>the entire global political economy, right, which is like, the

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 5>America's status in the world is in part, but in

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 5>no small part, based on the fact that you can

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 5>really only buy oil in dollars. And it seems like

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 5>what's happening is that the UAE is looking at their

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 5>long term prospects, going we're completely screwed. They're going, oh, well,

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 5>don't If you don't just hand us a bunch of money,

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 5>we're going to have to start looking at the underpinnings

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 5>of you know, American imperial power. So we're going to

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 5>continue to see where this goes. As this war continues

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 5>in asces stray continues to be blocked, countries around the

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 5>world are going to become more and more desperate. As

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:44.959
<v Speaker 5>the economic consequences of this ripples out across the world,

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 5>We're probably going to start seeing more things like this.

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 5>And at some point, if it becomes clear that the

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.439
<v Speaker 5>war is not going to end. In Trump's early week

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 5>announcement that the ceasefires are going to keep going, stops

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 5>being able to keep the stock markets from being up.

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 5>We're going to start seeing an even wider spread impact

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 5>of this. But this is a bleak sign from staunch

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 5>us ally.

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have one final story before closing, which is

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a little funny, also worrying, but more funny.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I think I think that's pretty good.

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Shawnee Kerkhoff, the woman that Glenn Beck's right wing outlet

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>The Blaze falsely accused of being the January sixth pipe bomber,

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 2>has launched a lawsuit against The Blaze and the two

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote journalists who wrote the story for context. Last November,

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>The Blaze published a story claiming to have identified the

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<v Speaker 2>bomber as a Capitol police officer who responded to the

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<v Speaker 2>January sixth insurrection, based on quote forensic gate analysis which

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<v Speaker 2>determined the officer was a quote up to ninety eight

0:52:55.320 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 2>percent match to surveillance video of the bomber. Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>This lawsuit claims five counts of defamation and one count

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<v Speaker 2>of defamation by implication, and Kerkhoff is requesting a jury trial.

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<v Speaker 2>The documents claim that the Blaze report targeted her because

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<v Speaker 2>of her actions on January sixth as a police officer

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<v Speaker 2>and testimony she gave against insurrectionists in court, and part

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<v Speaker 2>of the intention of targeting her was to build on

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<v Speaker 2>this larger idea that the defendants had that January sixth

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<v Speaker 2>was a quote unquote inside job. As these reports were

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<v Speaker 2>getting published by The Blaze, Glenn Beck said on his show, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the biggest stories. I think it

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:44.360
<v Speaker 2>is the biggest scandal of my lifetime, maybe in the

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 2>last one hundred years. Monstrous, bigger than Watergate. Pullit surprise

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 2>winning stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a capacity for self delution? Stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Waiting for the pullets are committed to finished reviewing this one.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna have to get in line after the police

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.360
<v Speaker 3>serprise are surely going to get for interviewing the dude

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:09.919
<v Speaker 3>who murdered Minneapolis Democratic politicians. Well, Yeah, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>was an action that his lawyer was super stoked about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Court documents to say that because of this false claim,

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<v Speaker 2>the CIA placed the plaintiff on administrative leave and she

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 2>was forced into hiding amidst online threats from conspiracy theorists.

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Quote for her role in supporting the deep state, including

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 2>in posts on her mother's obituary web page. Unquote, she

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 2>was getting death threats on the obituary page for her mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in constant frustration in my life, his journalists posting

0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 3>screenshots from court cases and then not listening to the

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:46.760
<v Speaker 3>court listener page. So I decided to find the page

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 3>so I could not be that guy. But yes, some

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.799
<v Speaker 3>of the threats this woman got genuinely probably made her

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 3>life very difficult to live for a period of time. Absolutely.

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:01.279
<v Speaker 2>The pseudo ledgers that even after she was cleared as

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<v Speaker 2>a suspect and weeks later another suspect was arrested who

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be the likely bomber, these Blaze quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>journalists continue to harass her and that their quote false

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and defamatory accusations have irreparably changed her life unquote. The

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:25.240
<v Speaker 2>documents say that this ruined her lifetime career in public

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>service by forever linking her to the bombing and records

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:33.399
<v Speaker 2>of an FBI investigation, making any potential security clearances needed

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:37.319
<v Speaker 2>in the future difficult or impossible to pass. One of

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the journalists was fired by the Blaze on April first,

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 2>just earlier this month, and the other resigned two days later.

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 2>They have since raised over twenty thousand dollars since leaving

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the Blaze to continue their claims on a new independent

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 2>website that they're launching.

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<v Speaker 4>Given the name of the website, the website is called Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>They're a toss Regnant LLC. Yes, yes, veritas. I think

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 4>that just means the truth is King based trains.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, thing, that's what they were going for at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>When I read that detail, I was you guys are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the most sued any people have ever been.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Something about PITOD seems you're relevant here, mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>The document says that the plaintiff was called in to

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<v Speaker 2>work on November sixth, where two FBI agents then asked

0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 2>her about quote unquote online chatter that she was the bomber.

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<v Speaker 2>She consented to a phone and car search and was

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 2>placed on administrative leave. Later that day, a quote unquote

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 2>caravan of FBI vehicles arrived outside her home, including a

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>bomb disposal truck and a helicopter. I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>read from the document quote. The agents claimed that they

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 2>were primarily looking for shoes agents edited their vehicles with

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:56.560
<v Speaker 2>their guns drawn in full tactical gear. An agent called

0:56:56.840 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 2>mister Dickert, who is the plaintiff's boyfrien, and commanded him

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<v Speaker 2>to quote, come out of the house unarmed with your dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Dickard and missus Kirkhoff complied and stepped outside. Agents

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<v Speaker 2>swept through the house, then re entered with bomb sniffing dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>They opened cabinets, rifled through drawers, and scattered Missus Kirkhoff's

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and mister Dickard's belongings, all without obtaining Miss Kirkhoff's or

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>mister Dickard's consent. It suddenly occurred to Miss Kirkhoff that

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<v Speaker 2>they were not simply looking for a pair of shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote never heard them asking for the dogs to come

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<v Speaker 3>out before. That was a new one for me.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an interesting detail. That is an interesting So

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<v Speaker 2>the plaintiff asked the agents there why they would do

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 2>all this to investigate quote unquote online chatter, and as

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 2>senior official responded that these orders came from quote unquote

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 2>higher up and that Miss Kirkhoff could quote clear everything

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:58.960
<v Speaker 2>up just that night if she would accompany agents to

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the FBI office for a polygraph interview. Ms Kirkoff agreed,

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<v Speaker 2>and agents assured her that the drive out to the

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 2>office would take longer than the interview itself. This was

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 2>not true. The interview lasted almost three hours. Agents repeatedly

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 2>accused the plaintiff of placing the bombs and continually asserted

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 2>her guilt. Part Way through the interview, the interrogator changed

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 2>out the tubes on the polygraph because they quote did

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 2>not like how they were reading unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a remarkable detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus yeah, oh, Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>And at one point told the plaintiff that she quote

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 2>unquote fail Wow, oh gosh. The plaintiff assumed, was just

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 2>an interrogation technique.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't fail a polygraph test, right, It just

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 3>gives information, yes, often not actually information which he's very

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:50.040
<v Speaker 3>useful in any way relevant whether you're telling the truth

0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 3>or not. Polygraphs not not really something that should be

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 3>used in this capacity. But here we go anyway. But

0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 3>yet it's not like a past fail. It doesn't like

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<v Speaker 3>a bleep, bleep bleep. I had to take ta now.

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<v Speaker 2>After midnight, she asked if she was free to leave,

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 2>and the agents said yes, so she went home. In

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the next day, the FBI returned her phone, and then

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 2>once she got back her phone, she saw this quote

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 2>unquote online chatter exploding all over alleging that she was

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the bomber. A day later, the Blaze published a report

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 2>explicitly naming her as the bombing suspect, something they already

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 2>alluded to in previous reporting, which sparked the online chatter,

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:33.439
<v Speaker 2>which caused the FBI to search her home and interrogate her.

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 2>This was all intentional on the part of the Blaze.

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:41.640
<v Speaker 2>According to this court document, the defendants, these quote unquote

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:45.520
<v Speaker 2>journalists purposely forwarded a tip to the Office of the

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Director National Intelligence in an attempt to get quote unquote

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 2>coroboration of their reporting from sources inside the government by

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:57.440
<v Speaker 2>getting the plaintiff placed under investigation prior to their publishing

0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>of the articles identifying her as the bomber that this

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<v Speaker 2>was This was basically all.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of a ski Their goal was to set the narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ m months later, the defendants have refused to

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<v Speaker 2>remove headlines or social media posts claiming to identify the bomber,

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<v Speaker 2>even after the actual text of these articles was removed

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<v Speaker 2>after the FBI arrested the real suspect in December, well

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<v Speaker 2>just last month, the quote unquote journalists published another article

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<v Speaker 2>on The Blaze titled quote Brian Cole Junior's physical presence, posture,

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<v Speaker 2>mannerisms are no match to FBI's hooey clad pipe bomb

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<v Speaker 2>suspect unquote. This was another article on The Blaze saying

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<v Speaker 2>that Gate analysis showed that Brian Cole Junior, the actual

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<v Speaker 2>suspect who has been arrested, does not match the Gate

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<v Speaker 2>does does not does not have a positive Gate analysis

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<v Speaker 2>match to the surveillance footage from that night.

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<v Speaker 4>It's god because it's not real, because because gaate analysis

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<v Speaker 4>is bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>But they break that down in the quote documents, right,

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<v Speaker 3>The footage of her that they had was when she's

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<v Speaker 3>carrying like fifty pounds of tactical gear and a heavy

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<v Speaker 3>bag tactical gear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, and she suffered a serious laying injury in college.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's comical that like they this is what they

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<v Speaker 3>went with. But then the fact that they're doubling down

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<v Speaker 3>on its very funny and legally baffling. Yeah, they really

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<v Speaker 3>are not ready for the consequences to hit them on

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<v Speaker 3>this one.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So, like I said, these two Quoe unquote journalists

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<v Speaker 2>were fired and Slash left The Blaze earlier this month,

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<v Speaker 2>but in posts and podcast appearances, they assert that Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Cole Junior is a quote unquote patsy, and that quote

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<v Speaker 2>the truth about the pipe bomber has been quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>floored it, and that quote unquote legal considerations are preventing

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<v Speaker 2>them from further disclosing the quote unquote darker details about

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<v Speaker 2>their Yeah, pipe bomber theory.

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<v Speaker 1>She's christ now.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Colt Junior's defense lawyers have filed a subpoena for

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<v Speaker 2>miss Kirkoff which misleadingly states she quote unquote failed a polygraph.

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<v Speaker 2>This subpoena also contains her home address, and the subpoena

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<v Speaker 2>has been spread online by these quote unquote journalists as

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that they were right all along. The plaintiff continues

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with doxing and death threads as a result

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<v Speaker 2>from the subpoena and the quote unuote journalists continued reporting

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<v Speaker 2>spreading claims that she is in fact the real bomber.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kirkoff is requesting a jury trial with these six

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<v Speaker 2>counts of defamation, and I hope she gets a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money from everyone involved in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hope she gets every dollar.

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<v Speaker 3>Glenn Beeck Hans, Yeah, I mean I hope the outlets

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<v Speaker 3>existing that is that would be ideal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hope the outlet becomes yet another subsidiary of

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<v Speaker 4>the Onion.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be a magnificent way for this to end.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like yeah, And then another element of the

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<v Speaker 3>documents I noticed was that they talked about how the

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote journalists had benefited from their blue check X posts, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, monetized accounts on X.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be interested to see as we get more

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<v Speaker 3>in the discovery element of this case, how much were

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<v Speaker 3>they making, how much were it making from X versus

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<v Speaker 3>the Blaze, Like, I'm going to follow this one just

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<v Speaker 3>because so many of the bits of misleading reporting we

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<v Speaker 3>see are because of this financial incentive structure. So it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be very revealing for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And this financial structure is something that X Everything app

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<v Speaker 2>is somewhat attempting to take on, at least for news

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<v Speaker 2>aggregator accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, they specifically went after Dom Lucret apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, one of X's guys announced like a week or

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<v Speaker 2>so ago that they're going to be reforming reforming the

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<v Speaker 2>payout system for news aggregators. This is Nikoli de Beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of the way they're doing that is that Ex's

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<v Speaker 4>traffic is in free fall, and this is something that

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing like across social media. There was a really

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<v Speaker 4>good report that Peter Tornberg, who's an assistant professor in

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<v Speaker 4>computational social science at the University of Amsterdam, published earlier

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<v Speaker 4>this year. I mean, like just today came up with

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<v Speaker 4>an update on it. On like the most recent numbers

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<v Speaker 4>we have on like what's happening to the different social

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<v Speaker 4>media networks. Visiting and posting on x the Everything app

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<v Speaker 4>and Facebook have seen like a nearly fifty percent drops,

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<v Speaker 4>a significant decline among like the youngest and the oldest

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<v Speaker 4>users on social media, particularly like people over sixty five

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<v Speaker 4>and people from eighteen to twenty four have seen like

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest decline and like the time that they've actually

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<v Speaker 4>spent on site. I'm going to be doing something more

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<v Speaker 4>detailed about this in the future, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>what you're seeing from these big social media companies and

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<v Speaker 4>these like big pit It's right, are moves in desperation.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not working as well as it used to.

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<v Speaker 4>The economics that wants underpin this system are falling apart.

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<v Speaker 4>None of these companies are as profitable as they used

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<v Speaker 4>to be, and people are pulling away from social media,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly from like a lot of the text based social

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<v Speaker 4>media sites which were never as profitable as like short

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<v Speaker 4>form video was. So I don't know, that's something that

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<v Speaker 4>made me less bummed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope she gets certainly all the money they

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<v Speaker 2>got from X and learning how much money that was

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<v Speaker 2>will be super interesting in discovery and hopefully much much

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<v Speaker 2>much more money as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of money, James, you wanted to plug a donation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to talk pretty briefly about the guys

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<v Speaker 3>from Cobra column. So Cobra Column if people aren't familiar,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a special Force or it's a PDF that is

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<v Speaker 3>aligned with the Karen National Union COREN National Liberation Army

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<v Speaker 3>and the struggle for liberation in the m Ar against

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<v Speaker 3>the Hunter right. They have been fighting intensely in an

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<v Speaker 3>area near Miawity, place that Robert and I spend some time,

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<v Speaker 3>actually just across the river from place Robin I spend

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<v Speaker 3>some time. Albeit the Hunter has successfully launched munitions into

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<v Speaker 3>Thailand several times now, and they are really like if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to look at the frontline of people's autonomy

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<v Speaker 3>against autocracy, against dictatorship, against tyranny, like, they are at it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they need money to sustain their efforts, to feed themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>to equip themselves, to buy medical equipment. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>they're also trying to buy a replacement helmets and body

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<v Speaker 3>armor because they're getting hit by drones right and people

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<v Speaker 3>have survival injuries, but their armor is destroyed. If you'd

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<v Speaker 3>one from Hunger Games. I'm not going to describe it,

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