Speaker 1: But I invited you hear I thought I made myself
Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests,
Speaker 1: your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.
Speaker 2: So how did you dare to surbey me?
Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We're
Speaker 3: in the backyard. The winds that were kind of too
Speaker 3: much earlier have calmed down. You might hear some brief
Speaker 3: light wind sounds, and I think that's nice, and I
Speaker 3: hope you do.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 3: I don't want to keep starting this podcast talking about
Speaker 3: the state of my car, but my horn has stopped working.
Speaker 3: It's just not I'm not able to beep or honk
Speaker 3: or do any of those things. And so just for
Speaker 3: the next few weeks, if you're at a green light,
Speaker 3: please go through the light, because I won't be able
Speaker 3: to beat you, and I could be behind you right now,
Speaker 3: just kind of suffering in silence. Please go through the intersection.
Speaker 3: Proceed with caution, but keep me in mind. Is there
Speaker 3: anything else I needed to talk about? I don't think,
Speaker 3: So let's get into the podcast. Today's guest is just
Speaker 3: fantastic it's Francesca Ramsey. Francesca, welcome to I said no gift.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: Of course, how are you I'm doing?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm here.
Speaker 4: I'm doing I'm trying to be honest instead of just
Speaker 4: saying good when the reality is more complicated.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like we're kind of all slowly becoming
Speaker 3: somewhat honest with each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't know if Earth's getting a season two,
Speaker 4: so at this point you might as well just say
Speaker 4: how you feel.
Speaker 3: And if it does, the budget will be slash.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not a recurring I'm maybe a guest again bringing
Speaker 4: you back.
Speaker 2: I'm an under five.
Speaker 3: We're only bringing back the stars. This effects budget is reduced. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's very true. Yeah, I'm more honest with
Speaker 3: my feelings and also trying to just enjoy what I Yeah,
Speaker 3: crumbs I can grab.
Speaker 2: I'm here for it. I support you, I affirm you.
Speaker 3: Okay, you can go home. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: being here.
Speaker 2: And this is great.
Speaker 3: This is the self affirmation minute. No, what's been going on?
Speaker 3: What are you enjoying right now?
Speaker 2: Ooh? What am I enjoying?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: I have a new podcast at wondery called Blackistry for Real,
Speaker 4: which has been taking up a ton of my time,
Speaker 4: and I got to meet my co host in person
Speaker 4: for the first time.
Speaker 3: We've been doing everything known each other.
Speaker 2: We've been doing everything remotely.
Speaker 4: We started working together end of last year, but we
Speaker 4: follow each other on social media, which it's that thing
Speaker 4: of like, I hope we're cool in person, and we
Speaker 4: had the best time together.
Speaker 3: I can go very wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know we've had a good vibe consciously.
Speaker 4: He's on TikTok. He's super funny and really really smart
Speaker 4: and prolific. So when we work together on the show,
Speaker 4: we had a great time.
Speaker 2: But you never know. So yeah, we we have been
Speaker 2: spending this week hanging out. It's been really fun.
Speaker 3: Oh that's lovely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Meeting a person from I mean like there was that
Speaker 3: period during early pandemic when you were meeting people only over.
Speaker 2: Zoo oh yeah, like in writer's rooms and right, and
Speaker 2: then you.
Speaker 3: Meet them in person. It's always for me, so shocking
Speaker 3: the person You've always just imagine them so small. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and then it's like, oh, this is a fully realized being.
Speaker 2: It's like you meet your showrunner and they have a tail, Like,
Speaker 2: that's weird.
Speaker 3: That's happened to me every time.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't see it on zoom.
Speaker 3: Yeah that. I remember meeting Onalise for the first time
Speaker 3: and just being like, oh this, I feel like I've
Speaker 3: been talking to on Lisa's fan art and now here's
Speaker 3: like the like the live action version sort of any
Speaker 3: but yeah, what else we've got the wind? My car's
Speaker 3: shutting down? Car wise, how are you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh, I am in a very expensive Mini coop. Really
Speaker 4: was a smart idea to buy a new car before
Speaker 4: the strike.
Speaker 2: That was Thank you Universe. She's electric Boogie woogie.
Speaker 3: They have an electric Mini.
Speaker 2: I do have an electric Mini Coop. It's great.
Speaker 4: I can make a parking spot out of a no
Speaker 4: parking spot. That was the real reason that I got it.
Speaker 3: Well here in Los Angeles, anyone can make us parking
Speaker 3: spot out of any parking spot because I'll be somewhere
Speaker 3: and there will be like a compact car and there
Speaker 3: was a land Rover and I'm just like, okay, well interesting, And.
Speaker 2: I do not feel that level of confidence in my
Speaker 2: parking skill.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I like to know, you know, because I'm chronically early.
Speaker 4: I pleas give myself extra time for the hearings, and
Speaker 4: so I know that if there's a half a spot,
Speaker 4: I can make it work. And sometimes that half a
Speaker 4: spot is the reason that I am on time, if not.
Speaker 3: Really right right, I need a football field to park.
Speaker 3: I need at least one hundred yards. It's one hundred yards. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Football listeners are screaming we've lost the entire football contingency.
Speaker 3: I know that there are yards involved with football, and
Speaker 3: one hundred is a number that's more than one. It sounds,
Speaker 3: it sounds doable. That's three hundred feet, which I'm now
Speaker 3: thinking there's no way that on a Lisa is just
Speaker 3: looking at me, like you more. Yeah, it's a shame
Speaker 3: that we've got We no longer have football listeners. I've
Speaker 3: all left the pods.
Speaker 2: Well now we can talk shit left.
Speaker 3: Oh I hate this game. No, I as far as
Speaker 3: parking goes. When you do have time, are you the
Speaker 3: sort of person who shops around for a spot or
Speaker 3: who takes whatever's offered?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I'm If I see what, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take it. But if it looks like I can't, if
Speaker 4: it's too small, I will spin the block right right.
Speaker 2: You know, I am.
Speaker 4: Somebody who likes to weigh her options, but I'm very
Speaker 4: reasonable practical. I might make a list, I might weigh
Speaker 4: the pros and cons before.
Speaker 3: I taking a photo of each spot.
Speaker 2: Yes, making a pinterest.
Speaker 3: A mood board for parking. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is something I would do.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of someone who will just take absolutely whatever
Speaker 3: garbage is offered to me. As far as parking, I
Speaker 3: think because the first five years I lived in LA,
Speaker 3: I was street parking in mid city and also kind
Speaker 3: of illegally because I still hadn't changed my plates to
Speaker 3: LA plates and I wasn't given a placard or whatever,
Speaker 3: so I was frequently literally a half a mile away
Speaker 3: from my apartment. So now I'm like, oh, it's I
Speaker 3: don't know, one hundred yards away.
Speaker 2: I'm not one but two parking spots. Come over. You
Speaker 2: can park in my extra spot, Spot fifteen.
Speaker 3: It's all yours now is it tandem or side by side?
Speaker 2: Oh? Side by side? And there's a charger in the spot.
Speaker 2: So if you have an electric car, oh, I do,
Speaker 2: come on my extra spot. You will have to pay
Speaker 2: for it, but I welcome you.
Speaker 3: How is uh. I have an electric car as well,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I always hear people being like, oh,
Speaker 3: I have what range anxiety or whatever. I don't feel that.
Speaker 4: I don't either, but I think, but that's also just
Speaker 4: a symptom my personality. I do not let my baby
Speaker 4: girl get below thirty percent.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course not.
Speaker 2: And I have and I.
Speaker 4: Have a charger in my spot, so I'm very spoiled
Speaker 4: versus people who have to go to a charger and
Speaker 4: sit and wait in line and you get there and
Speaker 4: the charge is broken, or people like steal your spot
Speaker 4: in line.
Speaker 3: Oh you're gonna say steal like an object from like
Speaker 3: a cat.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I mean like people are sitting in
Speaker 4: line waiting and then like a tesla will starve up,
Speaker 4: just like take their spot.
Speaker 3: I only know things of TikTok, oh, TikTok.
Speaker 4: I see people in the charging line in their car
Speaker 4: on the phone being like.
Speaker 2: I'm so pissed up many effort to me hours, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, sucks to be you, not my story.
Speaker 3: That's such a bold move to steal a place in
Speaker 3: line of the.
Speaker 4: I mean you already have a tesla. We know your
Speaker 4: morals are lull. No, but it is bold, especially because
Speaker 4: you're gonna have just gonna be there.
Speaker 3: You're like, the person can now just walk up to you.
Speaker 3: You're not getting away.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a confrontational person, it does. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it does seem like a.
Speaker 3: Huge risk, right, I mean, I guess if they were
Speaker 3: to do it in front of me, I would probably
Speaker 3: just sit there angrily and just boiling.
Speaker 2: What I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't confront them.
Speaker 4: I would just wait in my car, or I would
Speaker 4: just go home and charge in my parking spot, because
Speaker 4: that is a luxury that I have afforded.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I feel like I would probably whether I
Speaker 3: confront it or not, I would start crying.
Speaker 2: That's probably why I sure you in that response.
Speaker 3: And as far as people with Tesla's it's an interesting
Speaker 3: thing because obviously Elon Musk's reveal has been kind of slow.
Speaker 2: Yes, so people were there a lot of people who
Speaker 2: I know that were like, I'm so embarrassed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're kind of draft with this man's car. But
Speaker 3: then yesterday I drove I was driving down the road
Speaker 3: and I saw someone in a Tesla truck and my.
Speaker 4: Certainly, you know one of those weird looking ones. They're
Speaker 4: strange looking and they're like, good their safety hazard, aren't they?
Speaker 4: They have like very low visibility.
Speaker 3: They must be. It does not look like it was
Speaker 3: designed to be actually usable.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of like when everyone was driving those
Speaker 2: those tanks. Well remember that, like when we were in
Speaker 2: like the war. They were they were like war tanks.
Speaker 2: What were those cars? They were like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: what are those things called.
Speaker 4: They're not range rivers, I forget what they're called. But
Speaker 4: they were like these giant tank looking cars.
Speaker 2: Hummers, Carmer. Everyone had a Hummer and it was like
Speaker 2: I have a like a yellow Hummer, Like no one
Speaker 2: needs a yellow, Like, first of all, you're a war criminal.
Speaker 2: Second of all, a yellow, I know.
Speaker 3: You really want people to be looking at you, right, And.
Speaker 2: They were like he like raised off the crow with
Speaker 2: these giant wheels and hugely gassed. I was like, that's
Speaker 2: what those.
Speaker 3: Tesla trucks remind me completely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The hummer is are very like early thousands.
Speaker 2: They really went out of fashion. No one drives them anymore.
Speaker 3: Way out of fashion. And when you see one of
Speaker 3: those now you're like if I don't know what's happening
Speaker 3: there's a glitch.
Speaker 2: No, that's having a flag in your bio, like I'm
Speaker 2: driving on the other side of the road. Where were
Speaker 2: you January sixth?
Speaker 3: Truly, it's like, because you are that's a WARV. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you are prepared to attack. It's a certain type. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's a more and more specific type of person.
Speaker 3: I think they tried to do an electric version of that,
Speaker 3: and their.
Speaker 2: Mic like an oxymoron.
Speaker 3: Right, that's such a like the brain of that person's Like,
Speaker 3: I do care about the environment, but I also am
Speaker 3: happy to crush someone in a compact. Oh that's so,
Speaker 3: I don't understand exactly what Alisha's kind of looking.
Speaker 2: There is an electric car currently, funny, but no one's
Speaker 2: buying them.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen one.
Speaker 4: You would see them in LA if anyone had them,
Speaker 4: because a lot of people have electrics here.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I wonder they probably sold about four. It just
Speaker 3: feels like a bad move. It's like we were all
Speaker 3: we all think it's a bad car. Why are you
Speaker 3: trying to revive it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was genuinely so ugly, and I knew I really
Speaker 4: wanted all I wanted a small car when I first
Speaker 4: got to La, but the electric Benny didn't exist and
Speaker 4: there was no electric charger in my spot, so I
Speaker 4: knew it wasn't smart.
Speaker 2: But I just like a compact cars.
Speaker 3: It's so much zippier.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm playing Mario Kart.
Speaker 3: I'm on Rainbow Road.
Speaker 2: Make a Rainbow Road reference.
Speaker 3: Is the Mini Cooper kind of your dream car?
Speaker 4: I also love a Fiat, but they don't make the
Speaker 4: one that I like, The old one, the five thousand model,
Speaker 4: they don't make anymore. Now they have a Fiat that
Speaker 4: looks like a Mini suv, which is.
Speaker 3: Like, what's the fun small car? Electric?
Speaker 2: But they did the same thing with the Mini where
Speaker 2: they started making like a larger Mini. It's like, bitch,
Speaker 2: it's called a Mini.
Speaker 3: We come to you for a reason.
Speaker 4: We literally this is false advertising. I do not want
Speaker 4: an suv sized Mini. Similarly with the Fiat. Uh, it's
Speaker 4: so cute. I love it, but they don't don't make it.
Speaker 3: Any wow And is that the j LO version was
Speaker 3: she was like their spokesperson for a while. I do
Speaker 3: not remember that she was dancing on the top of
Speaker 3: the Fiat. She was driving the Fiat and was like,
Speaker 3: we know you're not driving the Fiat Jelo.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we know she's not singing, so like,
Speaker 4: you know, the brand is strong. Is she doing is improvising?
Speaker 4: She's miming, she's playing an improv game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. The little Fiat is a cute little car.
Speaker 3: You see him around pretty I see that.
Speaker 2: I feel like they're see them all the time in LA.
Speaker 2: Similarly with the Mini. As soon as I got one,
Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit, everyone has this car.
Speaker 3: It's because it's a convenient, stylish car. It is. Did
Speaker 3: you have a dream cars like a teen?
Speaker 2: Ooh? I really loved Volkswagen Jeta, the boxy ones, and
Speaker 2: I had a Jetta in college, but it was like
Speaker 2: the model that was like a rounded square, right, you know,
Speaker 2: they started kind of changing and now they look like
Speaker 2: a regular sedan, which which is annoying.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I loved the boxy version. Yeah. I love
Speaker 3: those old boxy Volkswagens. There's my friend drove Volkswagen Fox
Speaker 3: H which, first of all, what a name for.
Speaker 2: A car, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 3: Why haven't they revived that? I don't know, forget the Hummer,
Speaker 3: bring back an electric Fox.
Speaker 2: I had a Vulvo. I had a Volvo for a second,
Speaker 2: and I love the chairs that like the seats that
Speaker 2: are like the adult Yes, but they're like leather with
Speaker 2: like a little stitching on them.
Speaker 3: Right, they're so like swanky, so stylish. I wonder what
Speaker 3: the gas mileage on that sort of car?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: Mine was old and always have problems.
Speaker 3: Right, I'll see those around la occasion. I assume the
Speaker 3: person driving those cares about global warming.
Speaker 2: But do you think that they are like supposedly like
Speaker 2: very good on gas.
Speaker 3: As far as a gas car, remember, it's very much
Speaker 3: a car that when an indie filmmaker is trying to
Speaker 3: make their movie look interesting, that's the what the person
Speaker 3: will be driving. It's like there are other cars that
Speaker 3: we can put they can tell us what.
Speaker 4: The character is at this exactly when you buy the car.
Speaker 4: Wes Anderson is in the gloves department.
Speaker 3: He's at the dealership.
Speaker 2: You get in.
Speaker 3: Immediately we're hearing xylophone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think my current dream car and it has been
Speaker 3: since probably I was fifteen. Is are you familiar with
Speaker 3: the Subaru Brat? I don't think again, what a name
Speaker 3: for a car a Brat Brata Brat that it's kind
Speaker 3: of like a miniature. Do you know what an El
Speaker 3: Camino in. Yeah, it's like a small version of that.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so fun. Yeah, and they would have seats
Speaker 3: in the bed of the you know, it's like a
Speaker 3: little truck. Oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, you can like go to like a drive in movie.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a great is?
Speaker 2: Really? I feel like that fits your aesthetic. It's very sporty. Okay,
Speaker 2: I appreciate hearing you don't understand football, but you give sporty,
Speaker 2: you give sporty space.
Speaker 3: I'll take sporty spice. I'll take sporting spices. Put me
Speaker 3: in a tank top and a pair of like track
Speaker 3: pants and I'm right there. What's sporty Spice's real name?
Speaker 2: Oh? Melanie something with the C Melanie C. Because there
Speaker 2: was a Melanie Bee. Melanie was scary Spice.
Speaker 3: Did we know any of their last names at the time?
Speaker 3: Emma Button, Jerry Hallowell.
Speaker 2: Jerry Yes, Jerry Hallowell. And Victoria Beckham? Oh was she
Speaker 2: Beckham when she started?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I don't think she wasn't he wasn't in the picture.
Speaker 2: I don't know who she was.
Speaker 3: Gents, and probably.
Speaker 4: Multiple football references are happening, But we talk about the
Speaker 4: Europe we can do both football.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, I feel like the names were kind
Speaker 3: of a slow roller. I feel like I knew Melby
Speaker 3: and Melci first.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what Melb's the B is for.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Beckham. Maybe there's some drama there, I
Speaker 3: think so. But then yeah, halliwell was like the first.
Speaker 3: Is that even how we say her last name?
Speaker 2: No one, no one knows.
Speaker 3: I think she was the first to kind of be
Speaker 3: a solo star.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she tried, she tried. She was one of the
Speaker 2: first one to leave.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, she was the first. She We blame
Speaker 3: her sure for a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have lots of notes. If we really
Speaker 2: want to get.
Speaker 3: Into it, I would love to get into it.
Speaker 4: What the vocals were not strong? And I feel confident
Speaker 4: in saying that because it was true.
Speaker 2: They just weren't. Yeah, like to the music.
Speaker 3: It was very fun music. But I don't think that
Speaker 3: there was any of them was a great vocalist, right.
Speaker 4: I think Melanie c has a pretty good voice, Okay,
Speaker 4: she does. She tried to do some like dancy tracks.
Speaker 3: Right where she's kind of like vamping over them.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, exactly. She's she's okay, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think her voice is probably the strongest out of all
Speaker 2: of that, Okay, and I would say POSH is the weakest.
Speaker 3: Posh. Interesting, Okay, it feels like they were one of
Speaker 3: the few groups. Well now this isn't gonna be true,
Speaker 3: but I feel like other girl and boy bands, like
Speaker 3: there would be one person who was able to escape.
Speaker 4: Nobody was able to successfully. I mean, I would say
Speaker 4: that Victoria Beckham has the most successful solo career, but
Speaker 4: not as a singer.
Speaker 3: Right exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all tried. Jerry really tried. She had them.
Speaker 2: She had a talk about look at me, look at
Speaker 2: me at and something something aint. Can you see? That's
Speaker 2: that's all I remember.
Speaker 3: And the song was the song was not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody, nobody. I think Baby Tribe.
Speaker 3: Oh, Baby's still alive.
Speaker 4: She is, she is, she looks great, she's she's keeping
Speaker 4: true to the baby name. She's looking youthful.
Speaker 3: Oh good for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah and natural. Yeah nobody else really Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like Victoria probably like out of singing or otherwise,
Speaker 3: it is probably the most successful nomad. Like she's she's
Speaker 3: super successful any worldwide name.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, through her hobby, but also through her fashion line,
Speaker 4: which is like it's a risk for musicians and entertainers
Speaker 4: to go into fashion. But I think she's done a
Speaker 4: really good job.
Speaker 3: Like her stuff is cute, it's expensive, Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I feel like she's influenced the naming of children.
Speaker 3: Doesn't one of her kids have a name? Like she's
Speaker 3: got like a Brooklyn nexton or something. Yeah, she's got
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Yeah, uh huh. So good for her. I don't
Speaker 3: even know where I'm going with this, but yeah, I mean, God,
Speaker 3: bless the Spice girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: And I do believe Jerry ended up in politics. I
Speaker 3: don't know what.
Speaker 4: She's doing, but I feel like the last time I
Speaker 4: saw I will say I saw a conspiracy theory that
Speaker 4: Jerry and.
Speaker 2: And Scary. Jerry and Scary were in a lesbian relationship.
Speaker 4: Oh and they were kind of reviewing music video and
Speaker 4: seeing what was going on, and supposedly that was the
Speaker 4: real reason that the group broke up, what the spices
Speaker 4: were spicing it was, there was stuff going I want.
Speaker 3: To believe it. I want to believe, so do I.
Speaker 3: And when you say they were reviewing music.
Speaker 2: Like the people on TikTok were looking at videos and
Speaker 2: you can see that there's like tension. You know, they
Speaker 2: break down the you know, the body language analysis and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I don't know if any of it's legit,
Speaker 2: but I want to believe.
Speaker 3: I need to get into this. Why don't those two
Speaker 3: come out and tell us. I mean, that's paying attention
Speaker 3: for a few minutes.
Speaker 2: That is that would sustain a tour?
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, it does, at least a six city tour.
Speaker 4: And listen, millennials, elder millennials. We don't have a ton
Speaker 4: of money, but we are like the world is crumbling
Speaker 4: around us and we want to relive our youth. And
Speaker 4: so like if you go on tour, you don't we
Speaker 4: know the vocals are going to be there. We just
Speaker 4: want to see you, so we will show up exactly.
Speaker 3: They did try to come together for a minute, right.
Speaker 3: I feel like they have tried a few times. I
Speaker 3: don't like to do that.
Speaker 2: They have, and I don't think it's just it just
Speaker 2: has never really worked out.
Speaker 3: You don't want to try a few times. You do
Speaker 3: it once and if it doesn't work, then hang up
Speaker 3: the I guess the platform, the platforms, the platform flip flops.
Speaker 4: We were definitely wearing platform Neapolitan nepatol and and one of.
Speaker 2: Those ice cream that has the three. Of course, that's
Speaker 2: what those flip flops looked like. They had like a
Speaker 2: line of pink in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love a Neapolitan color scheme.
Speaker 2: Yes, very a brown light pink and a creek. Oh yes, I.
Speaker 3: Would get into a flip flop with that. I'm stomping
Speaker 3: around in some of that.
Speaker 2: I'm into that. Or like a manicure that has that color.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I like that. Yeah, I like the ice cream.
Speaker 3: I haven't had it in a long time, so I
Speaker 3: can't speak from recent experience, but you get a freak
Speaker 3: it still holds up. You can't really can really go there, right, Those.
Speaker 2: Those are those staple flavors. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you can like order that
Speaker 3: at a nice cream place anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I have no idea. It's a question worth asking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the good old days when you could order a Neapolitan.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, speaking of questions that need to be asked,
Speaker 3: I have something to ask you.
Speaker 2: Yes please.
Speaker 3: I was obviously excited to have you here today. I
Speaker 3: thought we'll have a nice time. We'll get into whatever
Speaker 3: we want to talk about. No feelings will be hurt.
Speaker 3: No rules will be broken, no boundaries will be pushed.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: The podcast is called I said No Gifts. Yes, so
Speaker 3: I was a little surprised when you kind of appeared
Speaker 3: in my backyard. Yes, holding what from where I'm sitting
Speaker 3: appears to be a gift.
Speaker 2: One thing about me, I'm gonna bring a gift.
Speaker 4: I love a gift. Gifting is my love language, it
Speaker 4: really is, Is that true. I have a gift drawer.
Speaker 4: This came from the gift drawer.
Speaker 3: A gift drawer.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: My policy is we are out and about and you
Speaker 4: see something cute and you think this will make a
Speaker 4: great gift, but I have no one to give it
Speaker 4: to buy it anyway, buy too, put it in the
Speaker 4: gift drawer, and then you will never show up empty handed.
Speaker 2: Wow, And every single person will be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you brought a gift to my housewarming, to my divorce party,
Speaker 2: to my you know, cake cutting ceremony or whatever.
Speaker 3: There's a kid cutting that's kind of a brisks.
Speaker 4: I mean exactly exactly. So you show up with a
Speaker 4: gift and you look, you know, like a great guest
Speaker 4: and very thoughtful.
Speaker 2: Little do they know you have gifts year round.
Speaker 3: Interesting, that's a that's not that's not something I could do.
Speaker 3: Oh yescause I can't buy something for myself. I see
Speaker 3: something that I need for myself, I can't buy it
Speaker 3: let alone.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't just like browse at you know,
Speaker 2: oh brows and when you see something use you just
Speaker 2: don't buy.
Speaker 3: You just rest leave the store and they think, oh no,
Speaker 3: I just I buy two. See that's a hell things.
Speaker 2: I also have like a list of.
Speaker 4: Gift places on my phone, like when someone gives me
Speaker 4: a gift, like plants dot com. Oh, you can send
Speaker 4: someone like a succulent just like very nice.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: There's a site that I found that will like engrave
Speaker 4: glasses for you, so like, you know, if you have
Speaker 4: an anniversary or a funny saying that you have with
Speaker 4: a friend, you can have it engraved on a glass.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a nice on a goblin?
Speaker 2: Even that a few times? What else do I have
Speaker 2: on there?
Speaker 4: I have also of like random things, and it's truly
Speaker 4: like I go somewhere or someone sends me something and
Speaker 4: I'm like, I want to remember this site, so I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put on my little gift.
Speaker 3: That's very smart, that's very in control of your life.
Speaker 4: I am like so type A, and it really comes
Speaker 4: from the fact that I have very little control over
Speaker 4: like other parts of my life right right, That's where
Speaker 4: I really like latch on.
Speaker 3: I wonder what type I even am. I don't know
Speaker 3: if there's a category for how I'm doing things wrong,
Speaker 3: because I feel like I do have some Type A tendencies,
Speaker 3: but not the ones that are good or not the
Speaker 3: ones that lead to success.
Speaker 4: Some people might say that Type A tendencies are bad
Speaker 4: because I know for some some people, like I love
Speaker 4: a calendar invite and I'm chronically early, and my friends
Speaker 4: are like, this is you send the calendar invite before
Speaker 4: we get off the phone, and I'm like, yes, I
Speaker 4: need it. I need it on the calendar. So like,
Speaker 4: certain aspects of it can be annoying, but at least
Speaker 4: you can be counted on literally you n if. I
Speaker 4: always tell people if I'm late, start a podcast about
Speaker 4: my disappearance.
Speaker 2: I'm dead in a dish somewhere. I'm not late.
Speaker 4: If I'm late, you will hear from me. But if
Speaker 4: you don't hear from me, something happened. I am chronically
Speaker 4: I'm like a premature baby.
Speaker 3: See this that used to be me until the pandemic,
Speaker 3: and I've like slowly lost control of being put I'm
Speaker 3: always now like panicking on my way to a place,
Speaker 3: just freaking out.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's fine in La. Everybody's fifteen minutes late here,
Speaker 2: which is horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't annoy with behavior.
Speaker 4: Now, and especially as someone who's chronically ear, it's really
Speaker 4: taken a lot for me to like get over the
Speaker 4: fact that everyone's late because I'm always early, and then
Speaker 4: like nothing starts for thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: Right, you're now a half hour early. It's not fair
Speaker 3: to you. You're the only victim in this situation. I
Speaker 3: know it, truly, I've known that pain a lot. Well, look,
Speaker 3: the gift is here. Yes, we're recording a podcast. Should
Speaker 3: I open it here on the show?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, let's and can I also just tell you, of
Speaker 4: course I did make the wrapping paper?
Speaker 3: You made it?
Speaker 2: Did? I did?
Speaker 3: Well? I'm gonna take a picture of a pre we
Speaker 3: gotta get a close up of this.
Speaker 4: I took a printmaking class, what and I carved these
Speaker 4: little star stamps out of little linoleum blocks, and I
Speaker 4: rolled a giant thing of craft paper, and I keep
Speaker 4: a roll of stamped craft.
Speaker 2: When I got the invitation of this podcast, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, this is my podcast, I'm the target audience a
Speaker 4: gift and they were like, it has to be wrapped,
Speaker 4: and like the way was this? Kept telling me and
Speaker 4: it has to be wrapped, And I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: it's going to be fucking wrapped.
Speaker 2: You think I'm showing up with an unwrapped Uh. Yes,
Speaker 2: I made this incredible.
Speaker 3: I would have like, I mean this looks so professional.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I got really into it. I took the class.
Speaker 4: I took one in college, but then I took one,
Speaker 4: uh like maybe two years ago. There's this really cute
Speaker 4: queer art studio called Nova Arts in Atwater Village. It's
Speaker 4: run by two queer women who went to college together.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I took this class and it was just
Speaker 4: so cool.
Speaker 2: It got so into it, and so.
Speaker 4: I've been I save like all of my takeout bags
Speaker 4: and I stamp them and I keep them in the
Speaker 4: gift drawer.
Speaker 3: So crafty, uh huh.
Speaker 2: I have little cards and I just.
Speaker 3: And so, now can you make these stamps at home?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So it's like a little linoleum block and it come.
Speaker 4: You buy these little carving tools that are all different sizes.
Speaker 4: You draw whatever you want on the on the block,
Speaker 4: and it's very therapeutic because you can't be on your
Speaker 4: phone both hands and you have to really pay attention
Speaker 4: because the tools are sharp, you know, so you have
Speaker 4: to really sit there and be very methodical, and you know,
Speaker 4: put a little music on.
Speaker 2: Smoke a little weak.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so what else have you made? So my
Speaker 4: signature shape is this, like little a little rainbow. I
Speaker 4: put those on everything.
Speaker 2: Stars.
Speaker 4: I love circles, I love shapes. I love like zig
Speaker 4: zag lines. I like things that you can like layer
Speaker 4: on top of each other.
Speaker 3: So that's so great. Yeah, wow, And the class, what
Speaker 3: what does it mean? You took the class?
Speaker 4: So it's it was a print making class. So there
Speaker 4: were different types of print making techniques. So this was
Speaker 4: called lino print, which is like the linoleum print. We
Speaker 4: also did like a type setting class. They have like
Speaker 4: an old printing press. It was like a test press,
Speaker 4: meaning like before you actually put the newspaper together, you
Speaker 4: did like a little test version. So there's like little
Speaker 4: blocks with different letters on them. You have to put
Speaker 4: them backwards in this thing. Oh and then you like
Speaker 4: roll it with ink and you put a piece of
Speaker 4: paper on it, and then you roll this giant brick
Speaker 4: on top of it. We also did a Reezograph, which
Speaker 4: is like a giant printer, but it prints one color
Speaker 4: at a time. So if you draw a picture and
Speaker 4: it's got red, green, and blue, you have to draw
Speaker 4: all the blue areas first and then print it, and
Speaker 4: then you draw all the red areas and then you
Speaker 4: print it, and then you draw all the wow, yellow areas.
Speaker 2: And then it's so so cool. What other ones did
Speaker 2: we do? Yeah, that was it, and then we just
Speaker 2: like did little projects and it was six weeks and
Speaker 2: it was like, sounds incredible. It's so cool. They have
Speaker 2: like figure drawing, they have all sorts of stuff there.
Speaker 4: And I really especially again because I'm so type A
Speaker 4: and because I love control and I lack control. I
Speaker 4: love being able to like use my creative talents for
Speaker 4: something where I'm like, I know there's a process here,
Speaker 4: it's a beginning, middle and edg no notes. You don't
Speaker 4: get so different from let's get out of Zoom, no
Speaker 4: bitch stamp. So like, for me, like making art is
Speaker 4: a way to like work through my anxiety but also
Speaker 4: to just like feel accomplished and creative and not you know,
Speaker 4: like maybe you feel this way too, but like when
Speaker 4: you turn your creative passions into a job, it can
Speaker 4: kind of like suck the fun out of it. And
Speaker 4: so like I have no interest in like monetizing this,
Speaker 4: Like this is just such a fun thing that I do,
Speaker 4: and I love the feeling of sharing something with someone
Speaker 4: that's very personal of course, and how excited they like.
Speaker 3: Like this, I'm incredible. I'm taking an app. I don't
Speaker 3: even need to open the thing at this point, Like
Speaker 3: this was enough. Yeah, I mean that is that's baking?
Speaker 1: Is that for me?
Speaker 3: Like I know that if I do this correctly, there
Speaker 3: will be a result and I'll know what it's going
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: And giving it to people and they're like this tastes
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 3: I just recently started giving them away. I've been very
Speaker 3: selfish and now I'm finally kind of shining.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
Speaker 3: It's so nice to give people a cookie and have
Speaker 3: them actually enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you also get to go you want a
Speaker 2: cookie and then you give them one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, or to withhold Yeah, another powerful stance. Okay,
Speaker 3: let me open this, Yeah, please do did we even
Speaker 3: just did I even say, it's like a brown rap
Speaker 3: with like these wonderful little white stars with It's great.
Speaker 3: There will be pictures on the Instagram. Yeah, calm down, okay,
Speaker 3: let's I love brown wrapping papers. Aye.
Speaker 2: Something about it feels sad, oh like yeah, and like artsy.
Speaker 3: And oh I know I'm opening it. It looks like
Speaker 3: you've given me something good, like something that's actually joy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is actually a useful thing. Well, I mean I
Speaker 3: don't exactly know what it is yet, but it's called
Speaker 3: massage soap and it's eucalyptus and mint. What is massage?
Speaker 4: So it's a soap that has like little rivets on
Speaker 4: it so that when you rub it on yourself like
Speaker 4: all ease you but also like gives you a little massage.
Speaker 3: Oh this is wonderful. Where did this come from? Uh?
Speaker 2: Came from World Market, which is where I get a
Speaker 2: lot of my gifts.
Speaker 3: Great gift zone.
Speaker 2: They've got a gift zone for the goal. It's everything
Speaker 2: is in there, even.
Speaker 3: The food sections.
Speaker 2: It got little snacks, they've got little markers, they've got baretts,
Speaker 2: they've got earrings, they've got candles, they have little eye.
Speaker 3: Masks, baskets, Flore's they have.
Speaker 4: They have so much cute artwork and stuff. It's like
Speaker 4: really affordable and like, and I also have points. I
Speaker 4: love a place that I have points. So a lot
Speaker 4: of these gifts they come on points.
Speaker 3: How many points do you think you have? I don't know,
Speaker 3: but if you.
Speaker 4: If I am in the checkout and they're like, would
Speaker 4: you like to sign up for the rewards for I
Speaker 4: say yes, take my data, take my data, give me
Speaker 4: those points. If I get an email that's like, you
Speaker 4: have to use your points today, I'm like, great, getting in.
Speaker 2: The mini coup let's go got into my head, spin
Speaker 2: them points up.
Speaker 3: I love a points program.
Speaker 2: Me too, or like a it's your birthday, so now
Speaker 2: you get off. I don't care what it is. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm buying a house ten percent off an
Speaker 2: Eagle Rock for your birthday. Totally.
Speaker 3: I will go to any place more often if it
Speaker 3: has a points system.
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I mean it's it's genius. It's great incentive.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's an incredible incentive. I feel like I'm being rewarded,
Speaker 3: although it's probably absolutely bare minimum. Yeah, it's a scam.
Speaker 3: When you get it, it's such a nice little bonus
Speaker 3: you feel like you're the king of the place for
Speaker 3: the three minutes you're there.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I recently got some a free chicken sandwhich, and I
Speaker 3: was over the moon.
Speaker 2: I was over the moon.
Speaker 3: I was like I had won a million dollars.
Speaker 4: I would love a free chicken sandwich. If anyone is
Speaker 4: listening a p lease go to my website, check out
Speaker 4: the po box and send.
Speaker 3: Me a freaking why that you can sandwich in a box?
Speaker 2: Now, Yes, that's how I like it.
Speaker 3: I love a bath product. I love a shower product.
Speaker 2: Those are listeners. Bath products. You can't go wrong. They
Speaker 2: are not gendered. Everybody needs to take a bath.
Speaker 3: Everyone loves to experiment in the bath and shower.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to smell goods. Yeah, of course, so nice.
Speaker 3: Are you the sort of person when you're like a
Speaker 3: house guest at somebody's place that you'll like get into
Speaker 3: their stuff and use their different products?
Speaker 4: Ooh, I'm not, But I will say the last time
Speaker 4: that I went and visited, I was like staying at
Speaker 4: my aunt uncle's place, and in their guest room they
Speaker 4: had like stocked up toothbrushes and toothpas like like in
Speaker 4: like little wrappers for guests.
Speaker 3: This is rich people behavior. It was.
Speaker 2: I was like, I did not know y'all got it
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great to see.
Speaker 2: It was amazing. That is the type of person that
Speaker 2: I want to be.
Speaker 4: Oh when you code it when you're visiting and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: I forgot to bring slippers and they're like, here's some.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of slippers in this drawer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is top shelf behavior.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was really really cute.
Speaker 2: But I don't I normally I'm not I'm not someone
Speaker 2: that pokes around.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm getting in there. I'm putting on the using
Speaker 3: I'm like, my hair doesn't need to be washed, but
Speaker 3: this looks expensive and we're gonna give it a try.
Speaker 4: You're like, is this your mom's ashes? Guess I'm putting.
Speaker 3: Rubbing it in my hands. This is exfoliating.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm getting in there, and then at home, I'm doing
Speaker 3: the same thing. I'm trying new things all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: And part of it is also I'm like, well this
Speaker 3: soap is on sale this week. Oh no, of course
Speaker 3: I'm trying a noose, no soap. No.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not one who like experiments, like I
Speaker 4: don't have like this particular brand of a soap or something.
Speaker 4: But like whatever sunscreen I'm using, like I'm a diehard.
Speaker 4: I want to use that product till like the day
Speaker 4: that I die. I'm in mourning if I can't use
Speaker 4: it anymore. But raman Is, the supermodel, had a makeup
Speaker 4: line and she decided to stop doing it in the
Speaker 4: middle of the pandemic. I was on eBay buying old
Speaker 4: bottles of Iman because I was like, I cannot transition
Speaker 4: to a different foundation.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you're so used to it. At that
Speaker 3: point I stopped her.
Speaker 4: I don't I'm guessing it was the pandemic. But she
Speaker 4: didn't even like make an announcement or anything. Like just
Speaker 4: the website went down. You couldn't find the stuff in
Speaker 4: the stores anymore. So I was like scouring eBay and
Speaker 4: like the Internet, try to find old bottles or just
Speaker 4: buy things in bulk.
Speaker 3: It's not like Iman is brewing it up in her basement.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know what happened. I am on.
Speaker 2: I know you're listening, of course, side of my damn.
Speaker 2: Let me know.
Speaker 4: What else I will say for daily scun sunscreen. I
Speaker 4: love Supergoop. Super Goop not to be confused with Goop.
Speaker 4: This is a Goop products, not a product. Every time
Speaker 4: I mentioned people go who, I'm like, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 4: We are not giving one of Pultro any more coins.
Speaker 4: This is a different company. I love some super goog okay,
Speaker 4: because you know, sometimes like sunscreen is like chalky.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not this. It just goes right on.
Speaker 2: I mean, smooth looking.
Speaker 3: I need you need like an opaque bubble over me. Basically,
Speaker 3: get you some daily supero.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, it's a game changer.
Speaker 3: I've been, you know, steadily upping my sunscreen usage to
Speaker 3: the you know, basically the point that I'm putting it
Speaker 3: on before.
Speaker 2: Bed, Yes, every single day. You cannot wear too much sunscreen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just go for it. So this is a
Speaker 3: good recommendation. I like a like a moisturizing sunscreen.
Speaker 2: That's what this is. You put it on like after
Speaker 2: you get out of the shower, before you start your day.
Speaker 3: This is incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Have you read about like the Korean sunscreen market.
Speaker 2: Now, whatever the Korean folks are doing when it comes
Speaker 2: to skincare, they got it a lot.
Speaker 3: They've really time.
Speaker 4: I see somebody and I'm like you have the face
Speaker 4: of a toddler. They're like, I am using such and
Speaker 4: such Korean skincare, but they have like all the good stuff.
Speaker 3: And I believe with the sunscreen, it's almost like a
Speaker 3: legal thing, like I guess like in the US, like
Speaker 3: whatever they're using in Korea has not been approved by
Speaker 3: the FDA or whatever, and so they're just so far
Speaker 3: in band.
Speaker 4: We're too busy banning TikTok, right, y'all? Can I have
Speaker 4: silky smooth skin and TikTok well?
Speaker 3: An interesting? Interestingly, TikTok and Korean sunscreen are basically sisters.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it's all over. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not even on TikTok, and I know
Speaker 3: people are constantly talking about Korean sunscreen on tiptokh I mean.
Speaker 2: What I love about I mean, and not to like
Speaker 2: turn this into like a pro TikTok screed, but I
Speaker 2: love that if you like something like the algorithm like
Speaker 2: learns you and gives.
Speaker 4: You more stuff, which is like really nice. It kind
Speaker 4: of like helps you navigate the rabbit holes in that way.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the skincare girlies are serious over there.
Speaker 3: I mean, speaking of the algorithm and TikTok. I'm never
Speaker 3: on it, and I opened it last night and the
Speaker 3: first thing I'm presented with is Donald Trump talking to
Speaker 3: a child. It's like, oh, I immediately.
Speaker 2: Show brain want you have to hold it and click?
Speaker 2: Not interested?
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know there was a no.
Speaker 2: If you watched it for too long, it'll think that
Speaker 2: you liked it.
Speaker 3: I mean, does a track that you immediately closed the app?
Speaker 3: I think it does.
Speaker 2: The wrecking everything it's listening right now.
Speaker 3: It probably is. It is TikTok reach Out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The banning, it's like not but they're not quite banning
Speaker 3: it right. They're like demanding the sell part of the company. Yeah.
Speaker 4: They were like, we're worried you're spying on us ps,
Speaker 4: Facebook and Instagram.
Speaker 2: Y'all are good, We're okay, but y'all we want an America.
Speaker 2: If you go to spy on us, you must look
Speaker 2: like us. I don't really feel you know, a little
Speaker 2: xenophobia sprinkled in there. Y'all can't spy on us. We
Speaker 2: want this needs to be.
Speaker 3: A Homesta, be a sucker Berg approved.
Speaker 4: Yes, literally everything is listening to you. So they're trying
Speaker 4: to cloak it in this you know, like national security thing,
Speaker 4: but I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: So what's going to happen?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like it could go away.
Speaker 4: They they gave them a deadline, and I said, you
Speaker 4: have to sell to an American company, which also feels
Speaker 4: very scammy, right, Like, we're worried about national security. But
Speaker 4: if you just pick Selldom the company to an American company,
Speaker 4: will be okay with it? Again, we want to We're
Speaker 4: okay with American spying on our citizens, not anybody else.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. I can't get a wrangle on
Speaker 2: if it's gonna happen or not.
Speaker 3: Right, I feel like there's just no way that happens.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, every single time I think I have
Speaker 4: an understanding of how the world works, some crazy shit happens,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Just something happens where I'm
Speaker 4: like that was a to be a thing and then
Speaker 4: it was so who knows?
Speaker 3: Then have you taken any skincare or like soap recommendations
Speaker 3: from TikTok?
Speaker 2: I haven't. I you know, I've been blessed. The melanin
Speaker 2: has really been good to me.
Speaker 3: I've always.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I always tell people if I start hawking skincare, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm down bad. The finances are in the trash because
Speaker 4: this is all natural. And I'm even going, guys, you
Speaker 4: should buy this product.
Speaker 2: I'm lying to you. No one has helped me get
Speaker 2: the skin. This is from birth.
Speaker 3: Oh you're so lucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I've always had really clear skin, and so I'm
Speaker 4: very much of the mind, like I don't want to
Speaker 4: mess with it. I put on sunscreen the recommendation of
Speaker 4: a dear friend, mecup artist, who was like, this is
Speaker 4: what you should be doing every day to preserve what
Speaker 4: you have. I try to drink a lot of water.
Speaker 2: Sure, and that's it. I'm a less is more type
Speaker 2: of girl, Like what's.
Speaker 3: Your like, do you wash your face? Do anything?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just take my makeup off every
Speaker 4: night and I put my sunscreen up, my daily sunscreen on.
Speaker 4: I do a little I cream, you know, newly forty
Speaker 4: the bags are giving Chanel, you know, giving, let's see
Speaker 4: behind the counter.
Speaker 3: So I do put a little I cream on, but
Speaker 3: that I could get into I cream.
Speaker 2: I'm really into Keel's avocado I cream. I did.
Speaker 4: I got the recommendation from a friend, But I did
Speaker 4: like watch some videos to see like people's suggestions. You want,
Speaker 4: supposedly with the I cream, you want something that's like
Speaker 4: a little sticky to like help fill in the ridges.
Speaker 4: You don't want it to be too like liquidy. I
Speaker 4: don't mean these are not technical liquity sticky. It's medical. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So you need something that like I guess it like
Speaker 4: gives your face like buoyancy or something.
Speaker 3: So I put that on and I do think it helps.
Speaker 2: I mean, you look great, thank you.
Speaker 3: How long you've been doing the I cream?
Speaker 4: I'm I want to say, like about a year? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just woke up one day and I was like,
Speaker 4: what is going on? And my skin is changing? Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that's really it. And I'm I I just like,
Speaker 4: I want to look like myself.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want want to turn into a monster.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't want somebody to like, you know, the
Speaker 4: rare time I bring somebody home, we wake up in
Speaker 4: the bed and they're like, who the fuck is that?
Speaker 2: I don't want that.
Speaker 3: I want to look like myself purely, you just the
Speaker 3: best version of yourself.
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't want to have to take like a
Speaker 4: sledgehammer to my skin to like get all the ship
Speaker 4: off at night.
Speaker 3: You know, very light and easy and neutral, minimal. Why
Speaker 3: wouldn't ye? That just seems so nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we were definitely in a moment where
Speaker 4: the like heavy contour. It was like almost drag makeup,
Speaker 4: locked out brow that almost had like a gradient.
Speaker 1: On what was it?
Speaker 4: The gradient brow very interesting brow work and cut crease
Speaker 4: so it was like shadow. But then there was like
Speaker 4: a line of like a different color eyeshadow. It was
Speaker 4: very interesting. I never went through that phase.
Speaker 3: It's interesting, how uh how much browse change? Actually? There
Speaker 3: be like a history book on brows.
Speaker 2: We had a sperm brown.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course we should.
Speaker 2: Have a history book on browsing brows and only called
Speaker 2: just browsing.
Speaker 3: You've got a book deal, you've got an events, Oh
Speaker 3: my god.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 3: I love going into a Keels store, have you ever?
Speaker 3: Of course I never purchased anything like going in there.
Speaker 3: It feels a little doctory. Yes, they've got the sometimes
Speaker 3: the coat on.
Speaker 4: Yes, it feels very science y. They have like good
Speaker 4: hand creams and stuff. They have good products.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had some samples a little pricey, but yeah, right, right,
Speaker 3: and I like the ones occasionally will go in and
Speaker 3: they'll be like, can we wash your hands? Can we
Speaker 3: do this sort of thing for you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I'm all about that.
Speaker 4: Oh I got I haven't been in kiels And forever
Speaker 4: then nobody asked to wash my hands. But I maybe
Speaker 4: I should go back.
Speaker 3: Incredible experience. There was a I was in Palm Strings
Speaker 3: with my boyfriend last year or something, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: a Keels. It was some off brand place. We went
Speaker 3: in and they offered to wash our hands. And I
Speaker 3: think that the woman who washed our hands probably she
Speaker 3: was very much I don't think she works. I think
Speaker 3: she was on her way that night to dying. Oh no,
Speaker 3: like this person's on the edge. Oh this person is
Speaker 3: got something's going on.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that does see what I mean, something must
Speaker 4: have been going on if like her dying wish was
Speaker 4: I want to wash a stranger's hands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very like I just came from
Speaker 3: the back room doing meth feel. But of course I
Speaker 3: still allow the hand washing. It's a free wash. I'm
Speaker 3: going to take it. But r ip ultimately yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it was a bleak feel. Not it was
Speaker 3: not the Keels experience. Certainly they had not checked this
Speaker 3: person's background when they hired her. They did not all
Speaker 3: her referrals. Her references. Well, I'm excited to try this.
Speaker 3: I mean it's interesting also to give a soap you've
Speaker 3: never tried to someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like you can't go wrong
Speaker 2: with soap, like young with have one job as long
Speaker 2: as it lathers and cleans. I think it's why. It
Speaker 2: smells good.
Speaker 3: It smells good, it looks like a good product.
Speaker 2: And this is, you know, this is above average soap.
Speaker 2: This is you know, teacher's pet soap. It's like I'm
Speaker 2: a clean new animal, a massagy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel like that does it's drop? Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is not like a bar of dial no bar
Speaker 3: of Irish spring.
Speaker 2: The same as when you give a candle. You don't
Speaker 2: have to have used the candle.
Speaker 4: You just give it a sniff and you're like, this
Speaker 4: seems good, and you get and it comes in like
Speaker 4: a pretty little dish or something and you're like, great.
Speaker 3: Here we go. Yeah, I wonder I'm gonna open and
Speaker 3: just see what the bar actually, yes, please do. It
Speaker 3: looks like a fun little toy almost almost looks like
Speaker 3: a leg giant lego.
Speaker 2: Piece or something exactly. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 2: those things actually will massage.
Speaker 3: You know, it's already doing it.
Speaker 2: Cheery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love this and I can smell it.
Speaker 3: It smells smells really nice.
Speaker 4: Eucalyptus and mint i mint and aromatic accords balance with
Speaker 4: earthy petrullly.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck Patrulli.
Speaker 3: Sorry, why do you say so? It's giving lilith fair.
Speaker 2: I feel like patually, you know, I associate patually with
Speaker 2: people who were using that instead of showering.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, where.
Speaker 2: It was like patrually mixed with like funk.
Speaker 3: We're getting a musk. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I did have a Petrulli.
Speaker 4: Phace for like two seconds in high school. But it's
Speaker 4: so overpowering. It's you really need it in moderation, but
Speaker 4: it doesn't.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not getting that from this is not
Speaker 3: This is not because I'm very sense bad smell. Actually
Speaker 3: that's probably not true. I actually feel like I'm kind
Speaker 3: of smell blind, but I'm not getting a bad smell.
Speaker 2: Well you it sounds like an flick show was in
Speaker 2: your future. Smell is blind.
Speaker 3: It's just pods trying to smell things through a wall.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, straight to series.
Speaker 3: I guess it would be a mesh thing and you're
Speaker 3: trying to smell what's on the other side.
Speaker 4: I will say that one time, when I was like
Speaker 4: home from college and like needed money, I signed up
Speaker 4: for this like bad breath survey where it was like
Speaker 4: they give you different mouthwashes and then you blow into
Speaker 4: a tube and someone has to smell yours on.
Speaker 2: The other side.
Speaker 3: Who was getting paid in this situation?
Speaker 2: I got paid. I think I got like one hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: You had to use this mouthwash.
Speaker 4: They had like different mouthwashes and like you had to
Speaker 4: use a certain mouthwash for a week, and then they
Speaker 4: had people they were testing to see I don't know
Speaker 4: the strength of them, and it was like through a
Speaker 4: little like a little a breathy glory hole. I guess
Speaker 4: you just blow into a little tube.
Speaker 3: This is mortifying, I know during that week where you like,
Speaker 3: I'm really going to go for it eating wise, No, I.
Speaker 2: Was that was a poor college student. I was just
Speaker 2: needed the money. Wow.
Speaker 3: I wonder who was on the other side.
Speaker 2: Of that show. That's the show? Who who is willingly
Speaker 2: signing up or it's just like a wall that goes
Speaker 2: out into the street and people are walking by, like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck was that smell?
Speaker 3: I think that's a sewer.
Speaker 2: Great to me.
Speaker 3: On the other side, did you feel like the wash
Speaker 3: was working?
Speaker 2: I guess so, I mean it it All it was
Speaker 2: supposed to do was like make your breath mintier. I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know. It worked for me. I listen,
Speaker 2: I got my hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: That's all that mattered to that exactly at that moment
Speaker 3: in time. Yeah, I feel like there are mouthwashers when
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, this is probably disintegrating my teeth
Speaker 3: right now. It's working so well, then there are others
Speaker 3: like that's mint lemonade. Yeah, so there is a yeah,
Speaker 3: I wonder did you.
Speaker 2: Ever have a listarine moment? That stuff is nasty?
Speaker 3: Oh, like a moment I think probably when I had braces.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that makes They would like recommend you.
Speaker 5: Don't like the alcohol ones no listine taste. Yeah, it
Speaker 5: tastes like alcohol.
Speaker 3: I mean, but that's you know, it's working. It's destroying
Speaker 3: everything in your mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not my vibe.
Speaker 3: I need basically paint thinner.
Speaker 2: Then you need the streine.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm not doing mouthwash at all.
Speaker 2: And it was also like brown, Like you couldn't give
Speaker 2: us a cuter color.
Speaker 3: Telling me there's a brown listerine. What are we talking about?
Speaker 3: You're talking about like raw whiskey.
Speaker 4: There's like a green Listerine. I think that was like
Speaker 4: part of the rebrand. The original listine was like a
Speaker 4: copper ish color. It looked like alcohol. It looked like
Speaker 4: a brown liquor.
Speaker 3: It was wow looking. That is very interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I associate that with like my
Speaker 4: dad's house. Oh, use this gross stuff.
Speaker 3: Wow, that sounds awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 3: That sounds very just like fifties hospital.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly the vibe.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I've I think I've been on the Listenerine
Speaker 3: train since they went green. Yes, okay, green or blue. Occasionally.
Speaker 3: I think they'll do a white. Yeah, but brown, I
Speaker 3: mean whoever was in charge of that at the time.
Speaker 2: No, it just didn't make any sense, felt like something
Speaker 2: you should be pouring into your car.
Speaker 3: It's a really thin oil. Well, I'm very excited to
Speaker 3: try this soap and let it just take control of
Speaker 3: my shower time. I was recently thinking of do you
Speaker 3: ever go to the Korean.
Speaker 2: Spah I've only been once, but I loved it.
Speaker 3: You go to we Spaw.
Speaker 2: It wasn't we Spa. It was like a it was
Speaker 2: a women's Korean Spas birthday.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah it was.
Speaker 4: It was really nice and I was really proud of
Speaker 4: myself because you had to be like fully naked and
Speaker 4: it's not it's not really my situation. I run past
Speaker 4: the mirror, you know, like that's how I get into
Speaker 4: the shower. And my friends were just like, can you
Speaker 4: believe it?
Speaker 2: We're all here naked, And I was like, guys, we
Speaker 2: can't talk about it. I did it, and I'm glad
Speaker 2: that I made Like I made this happen.
Speaker 3: What a moment of growth.
Speaker 4: We cannot acknowledge that we're all sitting here tits out,
Speaker 4: just shooting the breeze.
Speaker 2: It was so weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it took a ton of courage for
Speaker 3: me to do it the first time I could. There's
Speaker 3: no way I would be able to go with friends.
Speaker 3: I have to go alone and just be like, of
Speaker 3: course you're still naked in a room full of Yeah,
Speaker 3: but if you know the people right, I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: able to hold a normal conversation. Oh.
Speaker 2: They were just yickdy yackety.
Speaker 3: Some people are so lucky to just be that good
Speaker 3: in their own skin.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, not me, not me at all. My brain
Speaker 2: is just like Ariola, Ariola Arial.
Speaker 3: I'm so uncomfortable. But yeah, I've got I've basically gotten
Speaker 3: used to it. And they have like a body scrub
Speaker 3: that's incredible, that feels very every few years, like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is something I should do. I feel like we
Speaker 3: talked about this very early on in the podcast, and
Speaker 3: there were people get that were getting on and reviewing,
Speaker 3: Like these snobs are talking about the spot like it's
Speaker 3: thirty dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean listen, if it's not your thing,
Speaker 4: it's not your thing. But I'm of the mind that
Speaker 4: you should treat yourself. It's like a do it for
Speaker 4: your birthday, do it anniversary, just do something cute.
Speaker 3: You're finding nice Korean spot that's very affordable.
Speaker 4: There's also the places they have them here, but I
Speaker 4: really got into them in New York where they just
Speaker 4: do a foot massage and it's like twenty five bucks
Speaker 4: for a thirty minute foot massage.
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: Love foot massage.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I mean the closest I've gotten is a pedicure, but.
Speaker 4: No, I'm going full foot. It's wonderful because you can
Speaker 4: sit on your phone while you're doing it. Of course,
Speaker 4: it's like when you're getting a massage on your back.
Speaker 4: You're like face down. You just sit in a chair.
Speaker 4: They put a little hot.
Speaker 2: Towel on your foot, they crack your toes, they like
Speaker 2: do a little punching thing. Oh, it's great.
Speaker 3: I might have to get a recommendation. I would love
Speaker 3: to get my foot massage.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Happy Feet in Brooklyn. Great name.
Speaker 3: Was that before or after the Penguin movie?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: They're a season desist income a lawsuit on from one side.
Speaker 3: That is the name of the Penguin movie, right, Happy Feet. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there may have even been a Happy Feet too.
Speaker 2: Yeah there was.
Speaker 3: I mean at least there's like a tie in there,
Speaker 3: like a merchandising tie. And they could have, you know,
Speaker 3: had the penguins on their posters or no.
Speaker 2: They hadn't said I had a foot with a smile
Speaker 2: on it. It was a very scary.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't like the idea of a foot having a face,
Speaker 2: but I also don't think of a penguin having a foot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 3: I think about having a little little what is that?
Speaker 2: This is a beak the bird like fins?
Speaker 3: Flippers?
Speaker 4: Yeah, flippers that close on, Elise, what do you think Yeah,
Speaker 4: a happy flipper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, happy flipper. When I think of feet, I think
Speaker 3: of toes, and I'm picturing a penguin with human feet. No. No,
Speaker 3: that's a freak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gross.
Speaker 3: It's a freak creature. Okay, well incredible, I've got my soap.
Speaker 3: I think it's time to play a game. Oh, let's
Speaker 3: do it on Elise Today's gift Master. Okay, I'm becoming
Speaker 3: such a good person in this podcast. I need a
Speaker 3: number between one and ten from you. Okay, I have
Speaker 3: to do some light calculating to get our game pieces
Speaker 3: right now. You can recommend, promote, do whatever you want
Speaker 3: with a microphone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should listen to Black History for real. I
Speaker 2: also have another podcast called let Me Fix It. You
Speaker 2: should listen to that one too. You should slide in
Speaker 2: my DMS if you work for super Goop.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is how we play gift mester. I can
Speaker 3: name three gifts, three things you can give away, and
Speaker 3: I'm named three celebrities. You'll tell me which celebrity you
Speaker 3: would give which gifts and why? Okay, Okay, the gifts
Speaker 3: were giving away today are number one A distant husband,
Speaker 3: number two a fairy tale ending, and number three a
Speaker 3: box of oranges. Okay, the celebrities will be giving them
Speaker 3: to our number one Pedro Pascal. Number two Shane Shaleen Woodley.
Speaker 3: M hmm, yeah, I think that's the only way to
Speaker 3: pronounce it. I don't know. I'm struggling with Shaleen Woodley
Speaker 3: and number three Rupert Murdoch. Interesting mix of people, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Very interesting. I would give.
Speaker 4: I would give a Shileen Woodley a happy ending or
Speaker 4: fair tale ending because she was in a bunch of
Speaker 4: those movies where she was like it was like Divergent.
Speaker 2: She was running, she was scared.
Speaker 3: She's also get she's a Divergent.
Speaker 2: She was, you know, running for her life. She was
Speaker 2: also in that movie, or she was on that show
Speaker 2: on HBO where from a Big Little Lies Big. She
Speaker 2: seems like she's always going through something. You know, she's
Speaker 2: gets to have a single mom who works two jobs.
Speaker 2: She's trying to raise her kid take him to an
Speaker 2: expensive school.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting move for her in that show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she definitely looked way too young to be somebody's mom.
Speaker 4: But you know whatever, suspending this belief. Moved into an
Speaker 4: expensive neighborhood. She deserves a fairy tale ending. And then
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, Pedro Pascal a distant husband.
Speaker 3: Oh I like the sound of this.
Speaker 2: You know he's a zaddie. He deserves a distant husband.
Speaker 3: Kind of a husband that can occasionally they get in
Speaker 3: touch with each other and reconnect.
Speaker 4: But and a husband that's fine being in the background,
Speaker 4: because Pedro is going to be the star.
Speaker 2: He's shiny.
Speaker 3: He needs to be yes exactly.
Speaker 4: He needs a husband that is social distancing at all
Speaker 4: times and six feet behind him.
Speaker 3: Just resents everything about him.
Speaker 4: And then Rupert Murdoch, I'm going to give the Oranges
Speaker 4: because you need to get your vitamins when you in prison,
Speaker 4: you need, you know, even though you've been locked up
Speaker 4: for taking advantage of the American public.
Speaker 2: Right, shouldn't he be in jail.
Speaker 3: I mean, he should have been in jail a long time.
Speaker 2: So a lot of illegal, bad things. He's really screwed
Speaker 2: up our ar media.
Speaker 3: He's the kind of person who's like, jail's not enough, no,
Speaker 3: simply daily and so.
Speaker 2: Like Oranges, will be like the small, the small gift
Speaker 2: of his day. He'll have a hard time. He'll come
Speaker 2: back to his cell and he will eat some oranges.
Speaker 3: That's very general, rest of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to give back.
Speaker 3: I hope that the oranges are at least out of
Speaker 3: season for Ruper.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, I could do that too, because you know, there's
Speaker 3: a big gap between an out of season and in
Speaker 3: season orange. H probably my favorite and least favorite fruit
Speaker 3: really when it's in season and there's nothing better to
Speaker 3: me than an orange, Okay, but when it's out of seasons, like,
Speaker 3: why does this even exist? I was sold this product?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: And within the orange family, I love a blood orange.
Speaker 2: I'm into a cutie right now.
Speaker 3: Oh I love a little I love the smell when
Speaker 3: you're peeling an orange.
Speaker 4: It's also just the time that they're like pocket size.
Speaker 4: You can like throw them in your purse and you're
Speaker 4: out somewhere You're like, anybody want a CUTI And everyone's like,
Speaker 4: there's a cutty.
Speaker 2: Like it's just so. They're so fun, They're delightful. I'm
Speaker 2: a mango girl.
Speaker 3: I love a mango.
Speaker 2: Love South Florida girl, Mango all day.
Speaker 3: Do mango grow in South Florida?
Speaker 2: They sure do. I don't think they're there naturally, they're
Speaker 2: They're like the bbl of Florida fruit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, manmade ripe mango delicious.
Speaker 2: Oh so good. You can like smell it through the rind.
Speaker 3: Now are you just eating them just mango? Are you
Speaker 3: putting with something?
Speaker 2: I am a mango salsa aficionado. Interesting, love a mango salsa.
Speaker 2: My trick is to add a little minced ginger to.
Speaker 3: Chutney territory.
Speaker 4: It's a little yes, it gives it a little kick,
Speaker 4: a little bite, a little punch. Conventually, I love a
Speaker 4: mango SAUCEA put it on like a fish, throw it
Speaker 4: in with a salad.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, this is fancy.
Speaker 2: I love a sweeten to meat. That's my that is
Speaker 2: my go too.
Speaker 3: That's a yeah. Sweet meat is delicious and you have
Speaker 3: to go sweet meat.
Speaker 2: That's how you have to say it when you order
Speaker 2: it at a restaurant. Try it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice savory with a little dash of color of
Speaker 3: your hots. I love it. Do you like a mango
Speaker 3: sticky rice? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't think I've had that now? Is that?
Speaker 3: Is it a thaie restaurant?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I love thie. Oh you have to have this. It's
Speaker 3: like I think it's kind of probably I'll speak for Thailand.
Speaker 3: It's the official dessert of Thailand.
Speaker 2: I do you like a sticky rice? I don't think
Speaker 2: I've had a mango sticky ri.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a nice sticky rice, the mango. Then
Speaker 3: they pour like like a milk, condensed milk over it.
Speaker 3: Phenomenal thing.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean, as far as desserts go, I have to
Speaker 3: have chocolate in them. But that's one that I give
Speaker 3: up pass.
Speaker 2: Not a big chocolate person.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't like to hear this.
Speaker 2: I don't hate it, it's just never my first choice.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's your what's your first choice? Then?
Speaker 4: I honestly I love like a cobbler. I love a
Speaker 4: high I love a fruit with a scoop of ice cream.
Speaker 3: Oh on it, that's what I want.
Speaker 2: Like, I want that over cake.
Speaker 4: I want like something about the fruity and like the
Speaker 4: shell and the crust and all that stuff is really
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 3: That cobbler phenomenal. But my favorite cobbler is a BlackBerry
Speaker 3: cobbler with you ice cream. Oh you know, talk about
Speaker 3: ice cream. It but served to me. I think for
Speaker 3: the first time in two thousand and seven, and I
Speaker 3: had never tasted anything as good as this combination. Interesting.
Speaker 2: I my first choice would be a peach love a peach.
Speaker 3: C classic classic cobbler.
Speaker 2: Like a blueberry, but peach is crimalist.
Speaker 3: I don't think an apple cobbler does it for me. No,
Speaker 3: I need to bury a peach. That kind of thing works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Apple is not giving what needs to be given.
Speaker 3: Then it's kind of like a bad apple pie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and even of an apple pie has got to be
Speaker 3: like not my first trio. Yeah, that's got to be
Speaker 3: going at one thousand miles an hour to get my attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same.
Speaker 3: Well whatever, Okay, well, you played the game very well.
Speaker 3: Thank you very well, and it's now time to head
Speaker 3: into the final segment of the podcast, which is called
Speaker 3: I Said No Emails. People write into I Said No
Speaker 3: Gifts at gmail dot com. Every one of them is
Speaker 3: just kind of begging for answers. They want me to
Speaker 3: solve all of their problems, and I do because I'm
Speaker 3: incredible and would you help me?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into it here. This is Dear Bridger
Speaker 3: and disreputable guest, my partner and I are about to
Speaker 3: celebrate our tenth anniversary. Congratulations, and while we aren't big
Speaker 3: gift givers with one another, this occasion feels significant enough
Speaker 3: to merit one. I've racked my brain for romantic gift
Speaker 3: ideas to little success, but I have kept returning to
Speaker 3: the fact that I would love to replace our ratty
Speaker 3: old bed linens, which we've had since we started dating.
Speaker 3: My question to you is this, would it be horribly
Speaker 3: mundane and or self serving to gift something like bed
Speaker 3: linens for an anniversary? Appreciate your wisdom and deepest apologies
Speaker 3: for the intrusion. Sean in New York. Okay, Sean, congrats
Speaker 3: on the tenth anniversary.
Speaker 4: I do think an anniversary gift is a chance to
Speaker 4: gift something that both of you will use because you're
Speaker 4: celebrating your love.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I think sheets are not a fun gift. What are
Speaker 4: you a mom getting ready to for like the kid
Speaker 4: to go off to college? Like, that's not a sexy gift.
Speaker 4: But I come up a lot their edible sheets.
Speaker 2: That's not sexy.
Speaker 3: I like the idea of edible sheets. You have the
Speaker 3: stickiest mattress in the world.
Speaker 2: Also, you haven't had new sheets in ten years.
Speaker 3: There's something wrong in this Relationshipah, these are two filthy people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gross, I think. I mean not to you know, retread.
Speaker 2: But a spa thing is like, oh interesting, that's like sexy,
Speaker 2: like a couple's massage, you know, like you guys have
Speaker 2: to spend time together in a towel or a bathrobe
Speaker 2: looking at each other all you know, misty eyed. I
Speaker 2: think that's a good a good anniversary gift.
Speaker 3: That's a nice gift. That's or nice or what.
Speaker 2: Hobbies is your partner into?
Speaker 4: Right, like not saying this is what it is, but
Speaker 4: it's like this is when you buy someone like new
Speaker 4: golf clubs or something.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting. Now I want you to read the distant husband.
Speaker 3: It's time to start.
Speaker 4: Well, just like helping them level up and you're showing
Speaker 4: that you like, you know, appreciate their hobbies and you
Speaker 4: like listen to what they're excited about.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what you have to do. Ask TikTok. TikTok's
Speaker 2: been listening. They'll tell you what's again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure there's a like tenth anniversary TikTok.
Speaker 2: Would you tell them to Tom saying.
Speaker 3: Get the sheets? Really, I think sheets can be sexy.
Speaker 3: I think there's an inherent sexiness to a sheet, and
Speaker 3: also just coming from a place of Oh, I need
Speaker 3: a huge excuse to spend any money. Tenth anniversary. Okay,
Speaker 3: I can spend seventy dollars now on sheets.
Speaker 4: No, get a massade for seventy dollars. Do not buy
Speaker 4: seventy dollars sheet.
Speaker 3: There's seventy dollars go to bed for sheets. I just
Speaker 3: think that's expensive.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, twenty five dollars. You're not wearing the sheets out.
Speaker 4: They don't have ninestones on them, like what what happened?
Speaker 2: No, if you want if you first of all you
Speaker 2: need new sheets, no, we can agree on that, go
Speaker 2: buy new sheets. But not as an anniversary gift. We
Speaker 2: were together ten years sheets absolutely not.
Speaker 3: No, So you're saying by the sheets the next day? Yeah,
Speaker 3: by wait, get the points together.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Wait for a holiday, a Labor Day sale something like that,
Speaker 4: like those exist, I'm sure, but not as an anniversary give.
Speaker 3: We do love a labor day, President's Day ye, bedding sale, Yes,
Speaker 3: buying them before those? You're not thinking.
Speaker 2: Democracy is hanging in the ballast, But not these saving.
Speaker 3: Exactly why else have one of those holidays, if not
Speaker 3: to get a decent discount on a mattress or shot.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. I wait for all of those holidays to
Speaker 4: make purchases. Not an anniversary or go to like a
Speaker 4: fancy restaurant and like, you know, do that, which is
Speaker 4: like kind of stereotypical, but you're not going to go
Speaker 4: wrong with like you know, getting a reservation at a
Speaker 4: coveted place and telling them as your anniversary and then
Speaker 4: bringing out, you know, a candle and a sparkler and
Speaker 4: you know, making the thing up a table.
Speaker 3: The in New York, where should they go?
Speaker 2: Ooh, I really loved I don't think the standard exists,
Speaker 2: but I loved the rooftop at the Standard.
Speaker 3: A rooftop anniversary meal. That sounds nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was like this enclosed glass thing so
Speaker 4: you could see all around the same it's called the
Speaker 4: boom Boom room. Oh, it was so cool and like
Speaker 4: it was like gold. I don't yeah, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's there anymore, but yeah, go to something like a
Speaker 4: hotel that has a restaurant. I feel like are always
Speaker 4: nice because you get like beautiful views and you can
Speaker 4: get like a nicer, higher end meal.
Speaker 3: That's fine, right, and then maybe like the waiter brings
Speaker 3: out the dessert and you've hidden new sheets in the dessert.
Speaker 3: That feels right.
Speaker 2: Your sheets are just covered in chocolate syrup.
Speaker 3: I just had an anniversary dinner in New York and
Speaker 3: went to don Angie. Have you heard of this place?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Incredible? Okay? Well, Italian food, Okay, I mean I just
Speaker 3: couldn't believe what I was eating.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 4: Italian is safe for an anniversary. You don't want to
Speaker 4: take You don't want to do something like out of
Speaker 4: your comforts.
Speaker 3: Right, you need to You need a nice, secure cuisine
Speaker 3: that you both appreciate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, don't go to some like weird fusion restaurant. Right,
Speaker 5: do not do fusion on an anniversary. That's for a
Speaker 5: Wednesday night? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's risky experimental, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I think an anniversary dinner at either the Boom Boom
Speaker 5: Room or don Angie. The sheets are stepped into a
Speaker 5: piece of cheesecake if.
Speaker 4: You if you insist on getting the sheets, put it
Speaker 4: together in like a little basket situation, so it's like
Speaker 4: sheets and like a little lavender sashchete to go under
Speaker 4: your pillow or like that little spray that you spray
Speaker 4: that like helps you go to sleep.
Speaker 3: You know, like what's that sounds like something you would
Speaker 3: use on a spot.
Speaker 4: It's like a little spray that has someone lavender you
Speaker 4: sprayed on your pillows is how you go to sleep.
Speaker 2: And maybe put some like little slippers in there, like
Speaker 2: give them a little robes, smatching robes that are initialed
Speaker 2: and embroidered, you know what I mean. Like it's not sheets.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I'm giving you the full pack
Speaker 4: at home, like right, love package.
Speaker 3: Now that makes more sense. You hide what you need
Speaker 3: within a package.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And maybe you put some little candies or.
Speaker 3: You know, a little Jordan almond for example. That feels
Speaker 3: like a good gift. Candies, a basket of cuties. Oh
Speaker 3: you're eating cuties in bed? Yes, incredible, Yes, orange rinds everywhere.
Speaker 2: I love this for you.
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