Speaker 1: Like that's who. That's how I was athlete, and it
Speaker 1: fucked me up like big time. You know, Whereas I
Speaker 1: think people who can just be like it's in God's
Speaker 1: hands now, like I'm just out here. I'm just like
Speaker 1: an instrument for God, those are the people who end
Speaker 1: up on the super Bowl, because that's a much better
Speaker 1: way to think about how, you know, how you have
Speaker 1: to operate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that guy who took acid, he was like
Speaker 2: and like pissed a perfect game. Yeah, he just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: acid superpowers took over my body and it was perfect.
Speaker 1: He also walked like seventeen people.
Speaker 3: It was surely one of the worst best performances of
Speaker 3: all time. He hit like eight people. But when he
Speaker 3: was so bad, he was so bad that nobody could
Speaker 3: hit him.
Speaker 1: I mean he did win the game, and I has
Speaker 1: a no hitter but well Ark of Ohio and I
Speaker 1: said unintentionally.
Speaker 4: So that's one of my favorite stories of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doc Jellows, none of the greats. Hello the Internet,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Season three, seventy six, Episode four of
Speaker 1: Ice Stay production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast
Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into america shared consciousness
Speaker 1: and it is Friday, February twenty first, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing with a February?
Speaker 4: Do you just go full February February?
Speaker 1: February? I like make a slight nod to the first
Speaker 1: r even though I don't. I feel like it should
Speaker 1: be February.
Speaker 4: I used to just I used to separate, say February February.
Speaker 1: It's got a real rural juror thing to it.
Speaker 3: February Black History month, got the short end of every
Speaker 3: stick or the hardest fucking month to say. Nobody knows
Speaker 3: how to spell. People be misspelling February with regularity.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, January.
Speaker 5: Was all year. February went way too fast.
Speaker 1: We're flying were it was too quick. January felt like
Speaker 1: the rise up of the roller coaster. And now we're.
Speaker 4: Flying where we going to draw.
Speaker 1: And not just people in airplanes, they're falling out of
Speaker 1: the sky, but everybody feels that way. I feel like anyways, Uh,
Speaker 1: Friday clapping, Start clapping everybody and clap your feet. Starts
Speaker 1: a miracle ground that's beast to a miracle. My name
Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien aka wood Rice.
Speaker 6: Spilled a my thighs on a kiddy ride Dan Wooter
Speaker 6: Rice spilled in a place that I could and high
Speaker 6: that was Waterloo Abba courtesy of Rezik on the discord.
Speaker 1: You know, you try to get vulnerable with your listeners
Speaker 1: one time two years ago, and they're still making fun
Speaker 1: of me for it. I came off a scary ride.
Speaker 1: We were talking about scary rides and just rides in
Speaker 1: general before we started recording. Came off a scary ride,
Speaker 1: noticed that there was wetness on my pants, and I
Speaker 1: absolutely certain I hadn't pissed my pants, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still have no explanation for where the wetness came from.
Speaker 1: So I just said that it was from wood Rice,
Speaker 1: that somebody had spilled on the ride before I got on.
Speaker 4: Somebody came and it tripped.
Speaker 1: Someone came, somebody who's freak is like, yeah, going upside down.
Speaker 1: They can't help themselves. I can't help it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: also a possibility. It was the Jersey Shore. So I
Speaker 1: think the equal equal odds that it was wood Rice.
Speaker 1: It's hairtel, Yeah, it's nothing, it's just hair gel. Mom here, jail. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I went saw something about Mary with my mom,
Speaker 1: she turned to me at that point and said, what's
Speaker 1: he looking for? After he like jacks off and is
Speaker 1: looking for his load. He's looking for his load, Mom,
Speaker 1: he just jacked Anyways.
Speaker 3: It was the most unrealistic part of it. Let me
Speaker 3: tell you something. Let me tell you something. I know
Speaker 3: you got to introduce me. But we men feel what
Speaker 3: to come is.
Speaker 1: We feel it. We feel it.
Speaker 3: We feel like a second sense, we got a second say. Well,
Speaker 3: you know we come on ourselves.
Speaker 4: We feel it. We feel every drop that hits our
Speaker 4: stomach and chest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do feel like the hear he's crazy. There
Speaker 1: must be some part of the something about Mary Lore
Speaker 1: where he has something where he lost feeling in his
Speaker 1: ear at some point.
Speaker 3: When I saw that, when I was younger, I was like,
Speaker 3: that's funny that could happen. And as I got older,
Speaker 3: I was like, that is the most unrealistic shit I
Speaker 3: ever seen.
Speaker 5: I wish that this train of thought would just stop
Speaker 5: running down this track. But Jack, if your mom has
Speaker 5: never seen where it goes, do you have like eight
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty two siblings or I'm so so I
Speaker 5: don't want to be thinking about this either. I'm so
Speaker 5: sorry to your mom. This is not how I You know, Mom,
Speaker 5: if you're listening my mom, and you are any moms.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, never a drop waisted among the Irish Catholics.
Speaker 1: This is also not something I want to be saying
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Speaker 1: second seat by an award winning podcast host, writer, producer, comedian, actor,
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Speaker 7: Know.
Speaker 3: We've been here from the set out confine, confining when
Speaker 3: I step out in these streets.
Speaker 4: These streets, the streets, What up, Negross? How we doing?
Speaker 4: Shout out? Shout out?
Speaker 3: Gross face killer on the discord, sending me a little
Speaker 3: AKA nobody sends me AKA is no more?
Speaker 4: And I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: And they should as shredded by h They should one
Speaker 1: of my favorite singers.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: And he's to come up with these things off the
Speaker 3: top of the dome. Now, yeah, my brain ain't as
Speaker 3: quick as it used to be.
Speaker 1: Four years ago. One of the best doing it in
Speaker 1: I Love Discord. Jaquith's thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat. Hell yeah by another one of our favorite
Speaker 1: all time guests on TDZ hilarious stand up comedian, comedy writer, actor,
Speaker 1: fashion icon, whose shirts are available at Guarantee Surance dot com.
Speaker 1: It's Caitlin Gil but I'm not well.
Speaker 5: I'm staylan Gil. I've got nothing else. But I thought
Speaker 5: that that was the loudest momff thing I can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I yeah, little beaut but I'm not low
Speaker 1: And it's all right. I'm Caitlin Gill. You know. There,
Speaker 1: there you go, Caitlin. So wonderful to have you back.
Speaker 1: How have you been.
Speaker 5: Such a thrill to be here?
Speaker 4: I've been well.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: Listeners may recall from many many moons ago that I am.
Speaker 5: I live in a desert compound. I live out in
Speaker 5: the high desert in California on five acres of aggressive plants,
Speaker 5: and life is pretty nice out here. It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: What what what's the weather like in the desert.
Speaker 5: Right either too cold or too hot? And right now
Speaker 5: we are comfortably in between. We have a few weeks
Speaker 5: of weather where it feels easy to be outside. But
Speaker 5: that's just their to tempt it to betray you in
Speaker 5: coming times. In March and then in April, you can
Speaker 5: fry an egg on your hand outside of snows.
Speaker 4: It does in California.
Speaker 5: Yes, so I'm outside of Joshua Tree Okay, yeah, yes,
Speaker 5: twenty nine palms if you were a zero in They.
Speaker 1: Talk about how people moved to New York because there's
Speaker 1: like these two glorious weeks on either end of like
Speaker 1: winter and summer, where it's just you know, spring and fall,
Speaker 1: and it's like the best time to be anywhere ever,
Speaker 1: and like that is shrunk down in the desert too.
Speaker 1: It's like fifteen seconds on some days as the sun sets,
Speaker 1: like a shadow sweeps across and it's like that was pleasant. Okay,
Speaker 1: there it goes.
Speaker 5: I went to humble Ce University, which I always now
Speaker 5: cal Humboldt, which has their orientation week in October, the
Speaker 5: one week when it is not raining out of there
Speaker 5: are fifty one other weeks of rain. They just really
Speaker 5: bring you up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's great, it's great to have you here.
Speaker 1: It is great to sound thank you.
Speaker 5: This is where horseshoe politics comes to life, where if
Speaker 5: you follow your pull out philosophy far enough, you wind
Speaker 5: up in the same place, which is apparently eyeing your
Speaker 5: neighbor warily through your fence.
Speaker 3: That's uh there, Yeah, yes, yeah, like mister Wilson on
Speaker 3: Home Improvement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, essentially, yeah, you never see each other, but you
Speaker 5: know that the other one's there.
Speaker 4: They're always there.
Speaker 1: Mister Wilson always hid his face for a reason. You know.
Speaker 5: About here too.
Speaker 1: On January.
Speaker 4: It's like, I ain't nobody don't know how I love.
Speaker 1: All he has to do is change his hat, his
Speaker 1: hat completely throw the FBI off as scent.
Speaker 3: I don't watch sitcoms that much anymore because they're not
Speaker 3: as popular as they used to be.
Speaker 4: Barely exists as they barely exist.
Speaker 3: But what a fun sitcom trope is that you have
Speaker 3: a character why the entire run, who never.
Speaker 4: Shows his face. That's such a funny trope. I love
Speaker 4: that so much.
Speaker 5: You know, he in the hour long dramas I'm a Murder,
Speaker 5: she wrote girl, and you never see Sheriff mort Metzger's
Speaker 5: wife and they can't, And I have created in my
Speaker 5: mind about who and what she is. Is long, I
Speaker 5: can write some extensive fan fiction of selling Clyde.
Speaker 1: Is his wife Wilson from his Wife Improvement.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to say there is a universe
Speaker 5: in which that is not far off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his wife is the black lady from
Speaker 3: Tom and Jerry that we never saw her face, Okay,
Speaker 3: but we only saw her from the bottom down, which
Speaker 3: I know was done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, anything you wanted.
Speaker 4: Anything could be anything we wanted to be.
Speaker 1: Wilson. The actor who played Wilson was actually many actors
Speaker 1: that they just kept killing and replacing. Okay, you hear
Speaker 1: about Lassie, Like in the fifties, they're like last ye
Speaker 1: was actually a compositive fifteen different dogs because they kept
Speaker 1: throwing the dog actors down wells or whatever anyway, or Lassie,
Speaker 1: poor Lassie. Uh, it's great to have you both here.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you, Caitlin a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about later on. People, and this is
Speaker 1: gonna this is gonna surprise you guys. People seem to
Speaker 1: be fleeing the United States. Wow, for some reason? What exactly?
Speaker 1: So we'll just look at that and wonder and just
Speaker 1: ask that, wait what huh? Specifically, scientists Germany is looking
Speaker 1: at the US as a new talent pool as science
Speaker 1: goes out of fashion among the ruling class in the
Speaker 1: in the US. So we'll talk about that and whether
Speaker 1: there are any historical precedents for that. Talk about Delta
Speaker 1: that they're making a generous offer. This episode brought to
Speaker 1: you by Delta. They're making a generous offer to those
Speaker 1: passengers who happened to be on that flight that belly
Speaker 1: flopped and then flipped over, but they all survived, so
Speaker 1: maybe they should just think about it as like an
Speaker 1: extra fun like people go, people pay to go on
Speaker 1: rides like that. I don't know what everybody's being so
Speaker 1: weird about, but anyways, they made an offer of thirty
Speaker 1: K to the passengers who almost died on that, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think. It's take it or leave it,
Speaker 1: no strings attached, So we'll talk about whether that's a
Speaker 1: good deal or not. All that will probably talk about
Speaker 1: Amazon taking over control of the James Bond franchise. But first, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: we do like that. Yeah, that's why I was asking
Speaker 1: you if you're a Bond fan in Okay, Amazon, Jeff Bezos,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite creative minds, Jeff Bezos, has taken
Speaker 1: over the James Bond Bezos Production Bezos Production. Caitlin, we
Speaker 1: do like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history that's revealing about who you are.
Speaker 5: So just last night I was I did a deep
Speaker 5: dive on the Children of the Bride cinematic universe. It
Speaker 5: is a made for television movie series, a vehicle for
Speaker 5: Rue mclanahy in which he marries scandalously a much younger
Speaker 5: man first portrayed by Patrick Duffy. But don't worry, none
Speaker 5: of the actors repeat in any of the series. There
Speaker 5: are a few. I mean, Christy McNichol was in every
Speaker 5: single season, but Children of the Bride spawned Baby of
Speaker 5: the Bride because Rue McClanahan has a very romantic honeymoon
Speaker 5: and winds up pregnant at the same time as her daughter.
Speaker 5: Christy McNichol, you who used to be a nun and
Speaker 5: then Mother of the Bride the third installment in the series,
Speaker 5: in which are unlucky and love daughter manages to marry
Speaker 5: a cop. It is a wild ride. Any fans of
Speaker 5: Mystery Scidence Suitor Who's three thousand who followed them to
Speaker 5: rift Tracks might know that it is also rifted by
Speaker 5: Bridgett and Mary Joe, some of my favorite riffers. But
Speaker 5: it is utterly absurd. It's madness. I love every single
Speaker 5: second of it cannot get.
Speaker 4: Enough ARTI's horror based or like science thriller.
Speaker 5: They're very hallmarks. So in a sense they are horfying
Speaker 5: and a little bit of a science fiction. But no,
Speaker 5: they're just they're just canned ridiculousness.
Speaker 1: Also there these are drama television film together.
Speaker 5: They're they're rom coms. Definitely.
Speaker 4: There's like a subbling.
Speaker 5: Dance party to to a very bad cover of I.
Speaker 4: Will Survive and Want.
Speaker 5: There's Uh, Christian mcnicholl falls for a bad boy biker
Speaker 5: who talks a lot.
Speaker 3: About was Miranda Cosgrove in one of these movies? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yes, I think, because Okay, so that's an actual mother
Speaker 5: of a bride that's in a real movie. So Miranda
Speaker 5: cos Grove, Rachel Harris, Chad Michael Murray are in an
Speaker 5: actual movie called Mother of the Bride. Uh, these are
Speaker 5: not these are not actual movies. Uh, these are absurd
Speaker 5: not not regular movies.
Speaker 1: And you can still find them, uh if yes.
Speaker 5: I don't know where else they would be searchable beyond
Speaker 5: the riff tracks universe, but that is where I found them,
Speaker 5: and that was where I watched them too many times extensively.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a wild move to start. Start the
Speaker 1: franchise with Children of the Bride, where the cheeky title is, uh,
Speaker 1: she's marrying someone so young it could be her son.
Speaker 1: That's the child of the Bride, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's kind of uncomfortable, but it's like an older lady
Speaker 1: and the man's just like younger. And then the sequel
Speaker 1: is Baby of Baby.
Speaker 5: Of the Bride, where Patrick Duffy is replaced by Ted Shackleford,
Speaker 5: so the husband switches. For the last two films, Ruth's
Speaker 5: husband is played by Ted Shackleford.
Speaker 1: New husband, new husband.
Speaker 4: We just.
Speaker 5: Uh huh oh yeah, just new actor. These are TV movies.
Speaker 5: There's no continuity here. In fact, the part of the
Speaker 5: premise is like that each movie starts with a voiceover
Speaker 5: for Rue being like, this is the house I raised
Speaker 5: my children and I was married. By the third movie,
Speaker 5: it's a totally different house, like that location was just
Speaker 5: already booked or something. And yes, I have watched it
Speaker 5: enough to know for short that it is not the
Speaker 5: same house from the first two movies. Patrick Duffery, Tuffy,
Speaker 5: Ted Shackelford switch. Anybody would notice, but you really have
Speaker 5: to be a connoisseur of the series to observe that
Speaker 5: that house is not at all the same as the
Speaker 5: one they've filmed the first to it.
Speaker 3: Are all these in the universe of the Steve Martin,
Speaker 3: Father of the Bride.
Speaker 5: Uh I would like to think that there is like
Speaker 5: a crossover here, and like I kind of want all
Speaker 5: the Hallmark movies to exist in the same universe. Like
Speaker 5: every ancillary character you see through a window is having
Speaker 5: a beat cute like they've been separated since high school
Speaker 5: and he's an executive and she's a baker or something,
Speaker 5: and they to save the rec center or whatever.
Speaker 1: If every movie is like the subjective experience of one
Speaker 1: of the characters in it, these are just movies in
Speaker 1: the same universe, but from the subjective experience of like
Speaker 1: a much stupider person from that family.
Speaker 5: These are from nineteen ninety, ninety one and ninety three.
Speaker 1: So like right around the time time, probably like trying
Speaker 1: to cash in on Father of the Bride.
Speaker 5: Maybe, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It was early nineties. This might have maybe Father of
Speaker 1: the Bride was trying to cash in on.
Speaker 4: This maybe Father Yeah, Father Bride was ninety one.
Speaker 5: See this is why we deep dive. Now I need
Speaker 5: to look at the production teams and see what kind
Speaker 5: of crossover there was between writing production studios, Like who
Speaker 5: you know who tried to run with the Hallmark presence
Speaker 5: for Thiney Won for Father of the Bride could have
Speaker 5: been in production. I'm going to say that The Children
Speaker 5: of the Bride was made over about a week and
Speaker 5: a half. I'm gonna say Father of the Bride could
Speaker 5: have already been in production at the Maybe it's an
Speaker 5: arm again deep impact issue where you know, every studio
Speaker 5: just had to have one in one of the studios
Speaker 5: was Hallmark in this case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think from a historical perspective, it's
Speaker 1: probably like some of the younger listeners might not remember
Speaker 1: a time when like TV movies were a thing, And
Speaker 1: I do like that they were just bat worst movies
Speaker 1: made by TV for TV, and they I think they
Speaker 1: probably had something to do with why TV was so
Speaker 1: looked down on for so definitely like they were like,
Speaker 1: you know, for a long time, there was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm a movie actor, I would never do TV, like
Speaker 1: until fairly recently, until you know, prestigeous stream became a
Speaker 1: thing in prestige.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think to go back to.
Speaker 1: That these were the reason because they were like, we've
Speaker 1: seen what movies that you try to make look like
Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah, they're really great. They're terrible.
Speaker 5: It's so much fun.
Speaker 1: Caitlin, what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: Uh, something I think is underrated. This one's serious. Don't worry.
Speaker 5: My overrated will be ridiculous. City council meetings. Okay, So
Speaker 5: I live in a small town. Although it has a
Speaker 5: huge military base and an entrance to a national park,
Speaker 5: there's about four people that consistently attend city council meetings.
Speaker 5: Cannot recommend it highly enough. Most important politics are local.
Speaker 5: I bet where you live you can go just two
Speaker 5: city council meetings even and uh feel like you might
Speaker 5: be able to make an impact in your immediate environment.
Speaker 5: Even if you're in Los Angeles, I mean, I'm on
Speaker 5: the West Coast, pick a big city. Wherever you are,
Speaker 5: your city council is probably very busy, but there's always
Speaker 5: all kinds of commissions and boards, and they'll have to
Speaker 5: have public meetings so you can go and observe what's
Speaker 5: actually happening on the ground level. So your local politics
Speaker 5: are very accessible and I highly recommend jumping in with
Speaker 5: both feet. Kind of fascinating. So it feels like a
Speaker 5: good thing to do, right and it has a direct
Speaker 5: political impact on your community. That's cool. But also you
Speaker 5: can just like live for the drama. Like if you
Speaker 5: want to bring yes some hot Instagram tea into real life,
Speaker 5: you can definitely witness it in real time. But using
Speaker 5: Roberts strolls of order, it is fascinating, So go for
Speaker 5: the impact. Go because it feels like the right thing
Speaker 5: to do, but like, stay for the drama because worth
Speaker 5: worth it.
Speaker 4: I love it to you.
Speaker 1: So you go to these and do you participate or
Speaker 1: you just.
Speaker 5: Kind of do yes, So expect all yell more about
Speaker 5: this later. But I do still make T shirts. You
Speaker 5: can go check those out if you want to. Although
Speaker 5: I switching the screen printing so slowly, but surely they'll
Speaker 5: get even better. But what I actually do out here
Speaker 5: all the time is astronomy tours. Every time I come on,
Speaker 5: I've started a new business. I feel like I'm pushing MLMs,
Speaker 5: but I swear I'm not idea jo Astronomy Adventures is
Speaker 5: my own love thing. So I started a business out here.
Speaker 5: I have telescopes. I take them in the national park
Speaker 5: and show off stars and stuff.
Speaker 4: I might hit you up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on out.
Speaker 1: Oh man, is it child safe?
Speaker 5: Six it up is a good idea. A younger than
Speaker 5: six has no idea. They're on a planet. Once I
Speaker 5: hit six and above, they're like exiting dinosaur phase, entering
Speaker 5: space phase. So that's kind of a cool one. Not
Speaker 5: to catch it is the exact opposite of a comedy show,
Speaker 5: where like children actually bring a wonderful energy that catches
Speaker 5: among the adults, and it's like beneficial. Do not bring
Speaker 5: your children to comedy shows.
Speaker 1: My children.
Speaker 3: They give great feedback, great notes I bring my babies to.
Speaker 3: I don't even have babies. I just find a baby
Speaker 3: bring them.
Speaker 5: That sounds really cool.
Speaker 3: But also to the city council point, it is it
Speaker 3: is something that I think, uh, we especially because you know,
Speaker 3: federal and big politics gets most of the media attention.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying unrightfully so, but I do feel
Speaker 3: like we often hear like how important local politics are,
Speaker 3: but it's very easy to not follow through with the
Speaker 3: importance of them. So I think it's dope to like,
Speaker 3: actually here, going to your city council meeting and like
Speaker 3: pushing that and like talking about that, And you know,
Speaker 3: in LA, I feel like we definitely have gotten a
Speaker 3: little bit better with local politics and things like that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 4: That's so dope.
Speaker 5: At least City Council is going to be packed, it's
Speaker 5: going to feel big. But LA has a billion commissions
Speaker 5: and committees and entities that have others. So follow the
Speaker 5: threads of whatever you're curious about. If you like are planning,
Speaker 5: there's a planning commission. If you like arts, there's an
Speaker 5: arts commission. There's always something to kind of go weasel
Speaker 5: in on. But I do own a tiny business and
Speaker 5: a tiny town, and there are a lot of reasons
Speaker 5: why it makes sense for me to try to meet
Speaker 5: people and get involved. But I found it quite rewarding
Speaker 5: in a time when it is very easy to feel powerless,
Speaker 5: finding the things that help you feel like you're have
Speaker 5: some momentum, you're moving forward, like you can actually have
Speaker 5: an impact on what's happening around you is grounding. Feels good.
Speaker 1: And there's no like massive lobbying interests. I bet you
Speaker 1: can like buy a politician for like seven fifty. Oh
Speaker 1: it's so you can buy one.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's wild how much the smaller the town,
Speaker 5: the more important it is that you go to these
Speaker 5: meetings right, and the more direct your impacts can be.
Speaker 5: And you know, I live in a very conservative place.
Speaker 5: I know for sure that my city council will split ideologically,
Speaker 5: but the way people are just happy to see you there.
Speaker 5: You know, I know that people who voted against my
Speaker 5: entrances interests a human being are holding a door open
Speaker 5: for me, being like, thank you something you're gonna get
Speaker 5: you with your existence, and yet please speak for three minutes.
Speaker 5: I'm begging you you can. It's an interesting when you
Speaker 5: disagree on a national level, you still need to figure
Speaker 5: out if you're going to put lights on that stop sign,
Speaker 5: like together. So I don't condone in any respect working
Speaker 5: directly with fascists, but figuring out if you're going to
Speaker 5: get lights on that stop sign is an interesting way
Speaker 5: to meet people in your community, in a way to
Speaker 5: just find some kind of dialogue back and forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if they're going to start doing fascism at
Speaker 1: a local level.
Speaker 6: Better gotta be there more blad ladies.
Speaker 5: Carrying leathermen that are in the room. The less likely
Speaker 5: that is to happen.
Speaker 1: So let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll
Speaker 1: hear you're overrated, and we'll get into some news. We'll
Speaker 1: be ready.
Speaker 5: Don't worry, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And we're back and Caitlin gil we do like to
Speaker 1: ask our guest, what is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Stop putting so much stuff on French fries. They send
Speaker 5: the bone as a delicious side. They do not TV.
Speaker 5: So this is the West Coast problem that I feel
Speaker 5: like exists everywhere. But if you've gone to an In
Speaker 5: and Out Burger, you are aware that you can order
Speaker 5: an animal fry, which is all the animal style stuff
Speaker 5: on fries that includes cheese, grilled onions, the sauce. I
Speaker 5: feel like pickles are incorporated somehow.
Speaker 7: Please stop, get the burger, eat the friesllyf there was
Speaker 7: like a Windy's In and Out Universe crossover and you said,
Speaker 7: here's a baked potato and there's lots of good stuff
Speaker 7: on it.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 5: Interested, Please tell tell me more about this product. Fries
Speaker 5: are fried, fried is crispy?
Speaker 1: Do not?
Speaker 5: And I know in and Out fries or devicess in
Speaker 5: and of themselves, they are not the crispiest of fries.
Speaker 5: Which is why it's even more important that you do
Speaker 5: not throw a bunch of stuff on top of them,
Speaker 5: dip the fry and the ketchup, minimize the contact time
Speaker 5: with anything liquid in nature, and then consume the fry.
Speaker 4: I do like a dip fry. I don't like.
Speaker 3: I don't like, I don't I hate ketchup. I do barbecue, sauce, Cheese,
Speaker 3: you gotta. I don't mind cheese on the fry.
Speaker 5: But I'm not right about this, Like, if you disagree
Speaker 5: with me, you're not wrong. I just I personally feel
Speaker 5: like fries should be preserved in their holy state.
Speaker 3: Please so Victor, Victor asks the question, I'll ask his question,
Speaker 3: and I'll ask my question. One he asks his poutine
Speaker 3: too much?
Speaker 5: Has never wanting to offend a Canadian. I'm gonna say that, no,
Speaker 5: it isn't. You can so much.
Speaker 4: You could say yes. He doesn't have a microphone, so
Speaker 4: he can't say that.
Speaker 1: I would never do this, But.
Speaker 5: My perfect poutine would be like a little gravy warmer
Speaker 5: and and kurds on the side to assemble it myself.
Speaker 5: It's just what I want.
Speaker 3: No correct is wrong about food.
Speaker 5: I also feel like Patina's the big flat steak fries,
Speaker 5: which is a whole different conversation.
Speaker 3: I get you now now for like them of the fry,
Speaker 3: I get that, Like, no, listen, just give me the fry,
Speaker 3: But what about season what about uh huh yeah?
Speaker 5: Secretly at all the best fries are the weird, like
Speaker 5: the ones that come frozen with the crack tu like
Speaker 5: seasoning on the outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cuts good.
Speaker 3: But there's about the ones that look like they got
Speaker 3: like they're the orange, like they need to go to
Speaker 3: the dermatology.
Speaker 5: But you yes, yeah, that's an excellent fry.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to think of who has fries like that? Like, uh,
Speaker 3: do you remember like maybe not. I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: do you remember like Checkers or Rallies fries?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Ye, yeah.
Speaker 4: Have like some of the fries have some of that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: some of that a little bit too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeahs all right, So as long as we get listen,
Speaker 3: I'm with you. As long as we get seasoning on
Speaker 3: the fries, all the extra shit shouldn't.
Speaker 5: It's very fair that you ask. Our reputation regarding seasoning
Speaker 5: is deserved of very use it extensively in my own cooking.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, all right, but I've been mayonnaise is
Speaker 1: way too spicy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta try water Man.
Speaker 5: Fries.
Speaker 4: Water fries.
Speaker 5: You just spoke something in the existence on TikTok that.
Speaker 1: Out. I do. I do love poutine. I think I
Speaker 1: do generally disagree with this take. I will say that
Speaker 1: every time I've had cheese on fries, the cheese congeals
Speaker 1: to like it never quite works out the way I'm
Speaker 1: hoping for it too.
Speaker 4: You gotta be good ches. It gotta be the good cheese.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got.
Speaker 5: To be the good bad cheese. It's got to be
Speaker 5: like melted Nato container cheese.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, it needs to be the unnatural color
Speaker 1: of Yeah.
Speaker 4: Portillo the best cheese fries. But but it's dip. You
Speaker 4: dip them. Now, they give you a cup of cheese
Speaker 4: and you dip your fries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure Chicago has this down to
Speaker 1: us science.
Speaker 5: No, here's where the hippocrisy comes in. Many excellent taco
Speaker 5: trucks offer the loaded fries with all the taco fae
Speaker 5: the burrito items on the fries, don't. I'm not into it.
Speaker 5: But give me a California brito with fries in it.
Speaker 5: I'm on board.
Speaker 4: Yes, put no, got you?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: So you like spits? They do their Euros with fries.
Speaker 5: I'm into it. I can get this.
Speaker 4: I'm on board with which is very good. I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think they need to be crispy fries though,
Speaker 1: right like you can't.
Speaker 5: Yes, and the Christmas is going to dissipate the longer
Speaker 5: you enjoy them. It's the real first bite phenomenon.
Speaker 1: That structurally challenges me to eat it as fast as possible.
Speaker 4: That's before up the challenge worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah. McDonald's fries being I think the number one thing
Speaker 1: that goes bad with time. Oh yeah, God, they're so
Speaker 1: good straight out of the friar though. All right, speaking
Speaker 1: of out of the friar, I don't know. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't make this transition work into the roasting into
Speaker 1: the roasting pan. We seem to be seeing the early signs.
Speaker 1: According to the New Republic, the people, nay scientists, even
Speaker 1: are planning to flee the United States to greener pastures.
Speaker 1: They they noted, and I don't know why they picked
Speaker 1: this historical detail out, but I'm just gonna read from
Speaker 1: this report, or I'll read from the New Republic summarizing
Speaker 1: report in Der Spiegel, the German news magazine, reported that
Speaker 1: the Max Planck Society, one of the world's top scientific
Speaker 1: research institutions, is experiencing an uptick in applications from American scientists.
Speaker 1: It's president said the society regards the US as a
Speaker 1: quote new talent pool at a time when the Trump
Speaker 1: administration seeks to cut billions in funding to the National
Speaker 1: Institutes of Health. There's a deep historical irony in these
Speaker 1: recent developments. During the Third Reich, it was the max
Speaker 1: Planck Society, then known as the Kaiser Wilhelm Society that
Speaker 1: lost its best and brightest to the US and other countries,
Speaker 1: including Albert Einstein. Huh, I don't know, just a random
Speaker 1: just a random historical anecdote there, I guess, yeah, just.
Speaker 5: A coincidence, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1: But there's also, you know, there's this spike in searches
Speaker 1: for dual citizenship. Law firms that specialize in people seeking
Speaker 1: dual citizenship by dissent are like being flooded with people
Speaker 1: reaching out. But we're also seeing immigrants from Africa, Venezuela
Speaker 1: and the Middle East. We're apprehended fleeing to Canada from
Speaker 1: the United States, which I think we're going to probably
Speaker 1: see more and more of I'm very luckily taking a
Speaker 1: long look at Mexico. But yeah, I just think American
Speaker 1: exceptionalism is going to have a difficult time making sense
Speaker 1: of what the new normal is going to be in
Speaker 1: these in these next years, and that like they have
Speaker 1: to be worried about Americans fleeing. I mean, they're they're
Speaker 1: solving Trump's problem for you know, he's so worried about
Speaker 1: overpopulation or underpopular or whatever. He his justification is first, well, it's.
Speaker 5: A little bit of both, right, it's over some populations,
Speaker 5: under some populations.
Speaker 4: See, yeah, he's worried that we're getting less white.
Speaker 3: Oh, really worried about And then you know, but yeah,
Speaker 3: this is this is interesting. I I you know, I'm
Speaker 3: thirty eight now, and you know, for most of my
Speaker 3: adult life, I've never considered like living anywhere else outside
Speaker 3: of the country. But over the past like five years,
Speaker 3: as I've traveled a lot more outside of the country,
Speaker 3: and then this country has always been terrible. I'm very
Speaker 3: happy that white people are starting to see how terrible
Speaker 3: this country has been for a millennia. It feels like
Speaker 3: but like, but the feasibility of what we were told
Speaker 3: when we were younger, that like you can only have
Speaker 3: the best life in America. And because I'm like, racism
Speaker 3: is gonna be anywhere I go. But if I can
Speaker 3: like go somewhere where like some things are better than
Speaker 3: how they are being presented here, Like it's becoming more
Speaker 3: of an option. And it's just like and I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people are feeling that way. You know,
Speaker 3: it's you know, the planet is fucked. But the thing
Speaker 3: that is annoying is we seem to have people on
Speaker 3: this part of the world, in this country that our
Speaker 3: hell bent on making life worse for so many people,
Speaker 3: just from like a class standpoint, like yeah, and you know,
Speaker 3: and that's when that's when things really start to when
Speaker 3: you start to fuck with people's money, then that's when
Speaker 3: they start to realize how bad things are. But like
Speaker 3: it's getting pretty bad. Whereas to the point where it's like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: we can't even get health insurance, we can't even get
Speaker 3: like this, that and that. I was in Japan last
Speaker 3: year and like their trains ran, their buses and trains
Speaker 3: ran to the time that it's saying on Google Map,
Speaker 3: we can't even get on time public transportation in America, Like,
Speaker 3: I didn't even know that was possible. And I grew
Speaker 3: up in Chicago, where we had a lot of public transportation.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was possible for a bus
Speaker 3: to be at the bus stop at eight forty five.
Speaker 3: When they said it was gonna be there a forty five,
Speaker 3: I just was like, Oh, traffic dictates that's not the case.
Speaker 3: But for some reason other places I figured this out,
Speaker 3: like it's oh, it is so crazy, and we're going
Speaker 3: to see a lot more people leave. I think because
Speaker 3: this dream that we've been like given that things are
Speaker 3: going to be the best that they could possibly be
Speaker 3: here has been flawed for many years, and people are
Speaker 3: starting to see that a lot more, especially we have
Speaker 3: racists and Nazis in office.
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, I think that, you know, safety and opportunities
Speaker 1: like seem to be the two things that people are
Speaker 1: going to respond to. And I feel like people probably
Speaker 1: starting to feel much less safe as planes are falling
Speaker 1: out of the sky and various parts of the infrastructure breakdown.
Speaker 1: And but I think the opportunity that the thing America
Speaker 1: has always preded itself on as being the land of opportunities,
Speaker 1: but as the entire infrastructure is being vandalized by the president,
Speaker 1: and you know, just all opportunities are being funneled up
Speaker 1: where to people who are already billionaires. I think will
Speaker 1: probably start to see people, you know, act the way
Speaker 1: you would expect them to to that filt.
Speaker 5: We've missed so many historical contexts and clues in this country,
Speaker 5: Like it's fun to remember that, like the rationalization for
Speaker 5: fascism was at least the trains run on time, Like
Speaker 5: that was the minimum bar that fascist leaders had to
Speaker 5: hit in order to keep its populous calm, because at
Speaker 5: least they could get to their terrible jobs that did
Speaker 5: not give them enough to sustain themselves without an awful commute,
Speaker 5: Like that was the minimum bar, and somehow we can't
Speaker 5: we can't even hit that, Like you know, fascist leaders
Speaker 5: rise and fall, and the trains still run on time.
Speaker 5: In democracies, it doesn't that wasn't them. What type of
Speaker 5: system you have doesn't determine how good your public transportation is.
Speaker 5: It's the commitment you make. It's a very it's amazing
Speaker 5: to me how badly we've failed for decades to provide
Speaker 5: for people's basic needs. It's just a lot easier to
Speaker 5: see when the leader is so scary, the rhetoric has
Speaker 5: dropped out of the office that's supposed to make you
Speaker 5: feel good about where we were working together to live
Speaker 5: toward a greater future. Used to be something that you'd
Speaker 5: hear from the pulpit of the presidency, and now it's
Speaker 5: like the mass deportations. Now it definitely changes. The tone
Speaker 5: has changed, and now the glisten has gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I used to hit potholes in the street
Speaker 3: when Obama was in office, I used to be I
Speaker 3: was like, this is.
Speaker 5: An opportunity, an opportunity proof.
Speaker 3: Now I'm like, man, fuck this country.
Speaker 5: It's also very ironic that it's the Plank Institute that is,
Speaker 5: or the Plunk Society that is seeing an uptaken interest
Speaker 5: from American scientists. The telescope, there's there's a Great Observatory
Speaker 5: Capital g Capital. There's a telescope in space that did
Speaker 5: its work in the earlier oughts, But there's a telescope
Speaker 5: in Plank that was meant to image the cosmic microwave
Speaker 5: background to the CMB, which is like the biggest evidence
Speaker 5: we have to support the theory of the Big Bang.
Speaker 5: There's it's essentially looking at the microwave radiation that fills
Speaker 5: all space. It's a fascinating image. It looks like a
Speaker 5: trapper keeper the It's just funny that the society that's reporting,
Speaker 5: like essentially saying they're seeing more interest from American scientist
Speaker 5: is the one that actually supports one of the most
Speaker 5: controversial theories to the theocracy that is looking to take
Speaker 5: root in America. Like, not a surprise that the people
Speaker 5: who actually believe in the evidence presented by scientists about
Speaker 5: the start of our universe are like, maybe I should
Speaker 5: go Maybe I'm gonna end up. I'm gonna go look
Speaker 5: at this institute.
Speaker 1: That actually is following science. Yes, yeah, I mean every
Speaker 1: successful like scientific endeavor like that is good marketing for
Speaker 1: you know. It's like, well, look what they're doing over there. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: like NASA did that really cool thing where they altered
Speaker 1: the trajectory of that comment. Yes, Dike made sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And now like Elon Musk is like, we that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: We have no defense against a city killing asteroids. It's
Speaker 1: just it's like they're going out of their way to
Speaker 1: just make it a worse place for scientists, which feels
Speaker 1: like a bad strategy for theaters of a country.
Speaker 3: It does, especially since like Elon Musk has gotten his
Speaker 3: entire fortune stealing from scientists. Yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about. He's our greatest scientist, right, he's
Speaker 1: he's iron Man.
Speaker 5: Well directly from taxpayers funding bizarre science and a form
Speaker 5: of defense contracts.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I do just want to mention, because we
Speaker 1: were talking about trains running on time. The one piece
Speaker 1: of good news that we have seen in the past
Speaker 1: months in this on this show was New York Times
Speaker 1: New York City's congestion pricing, where they created a toll
Speaker 1: that was going to cost people money for driving in cities.
Speaker 1: It was a thing that like we had seen really
Speaker 1: turn some urban landscapes around, turn other cities around. They
Speaker 1: put it in place at the beginning of this year,
Speaker 1: and people are like, I can actually hear the birds
Speaker 1: in New York again, like the you can actually get
Speaker 1: from one place to another. The buses started running on
Speaker 1: time for the first time that anybody could remember, and
Speaker 1: Trump is I called it at the time. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't think the capitalists are going to want to
Speaker 1: see this succeed, Like, I don't think they'll let this
Speaker 1: succeed because it's too clear to just like plainly evident
Speaker 1: that like, oh, when you have laws that actually are
Speaker 1: just made on behalf of the people who live there
Speaker 1: instead of on like with the you know, oversight of
Speaker 1: corporate interests, people's lives improve in just these like tiny
Speaker 1: ways that are like some somewhat noticeable. Anyways, Trump is
Speaker 1: basically trying to cancel that program. New York City's fighting back,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's uh, yeah, it.
Speaker 4: Pays to be the king, you know, to be the
Speaker 4: king apparently.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's openly calling himself.
Speaker 5: And trump coin. So I'm not really sure how that's
Speaker 5: gonna work out.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna work out good if they have anything
Speaker 1: to say about it. Let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back. And we're back. And so again, you know,
Speaker 1: people pay money to go to amusement parks. Delta gave
Speaker 1: people a free thrill of a lifetime with a passenger
Speaker 1: playing that belly flopped on landing it so hard that
Speaker 1: it flipped over onto its back. And nobody died, thank god, miraculously.
Speaker 1: And and I don't know why we're even still talking
Speaker 1: about this. Nobody died. We're good here, we died.
Speaker 4: They're all amazing.
Speaker 1: They're offering passengers thirty thousand dollars with quote no strings attached.
Speaker 1: The lawyers are being like, you should talk to an
Speaker 1: attorney before you accept that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't don't accept you can get more.
Speaker 5: They said that the taking the thirty thousand doesn't affect
Speaker 5: any lawsuit in the future, but I do not believe. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I still would have a lawyer review that fine print.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to review that fine print before you
Speaker 4: take that money.
Speaker 3: For sure, because if you give me thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: and I can still sue you for five billion, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: got it right, give me money, I'm still gonna take
Speaker 3: you for everything you got.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: This is why I'm learning things about playing, Like there
Speaker 3: are things about planes that we all knew, Like they fly,
Speaker 3: they rise, they land, they can say.
Speaker 4: Lee explode in the air, they could crash.
Speaker 3: I didn't know a plane could flip over on Denzel
Speaker 3: movie flight. I should have, but see even then he
Speaker 3: was coming from I did. I don't know how I
Speaker 3: will say this. Maybe I don't know how the plane
Speaker 3: flipped over. Do we know how the plane flipped over?
Speaker 3: Was it in the air and then it landed on
Speaker 3: his on his landing.
Speaker 1: Belly flopped onto the ground and so hard that it
Speaker 1: just flipped over onto his side. And I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't know a plane could do that.
Speaker 1: I did get like, Delta, we should be thanking Delta.
Speaker 1: That was like great freestyle plane landing. They're showing us
Speaker 1: new things in the art of plane gymnastics.
Speaker 5: I'm early for a tweet I enjoyed, but I gotta
Speaker 5: give credit to samu Obay that he tweeted. He posted
Speaker 5: that you know what else did you expect? Other and
Speaker 5: a landing at a weird angle from an airline called Delta.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: True's I would have told you? Would you would you? Would?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 4: Would?
Speaker 7: You?
Speaker 4: Like? Would you hold out.
Speaker 3: For more than thirty thousand because some people are like
Speaker 3: that's not enough And I'm like, if I can still SUEX.
Speaker 5: Still, it would pay for the attorney. I mean, we
Speaker 5: get to a better attorney. I suppose it's a weird
Speaker 5: like getting ahead of it in this way seems very
Speaker 5: odd to me. It's a strange number to choose, like,
Speaker 5: at least it's not thirty thousand miles. Like I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't Their liability here is probably a
Speaker 5: little bit vague, Like I feel like the offer is
Speaker 5: because they know that a lawsuit would not be successful.
Speaker 5: Because tickets weep, I also have fine print in which
Speaker 5: the airline's basically like if we kill you, oopsies, there's
Speaker 5: not you know, the the contract you make when you
Speaker 5: buy a ticket from an airplane, you know, or an airplane.
Speaker 5: You buy a ticket from the airplane you go up
Speaker 5: to the air airplane gives you. From an airline, I
Speaker 5: have a feeling is pretty layered, but you know, it's
Speaker 5: one of those things. I just clicked the terms and
Speaker 5: conditions and buy. I had not beld the fine print
Speaker 5: on my airline on my tickets either. Although I haven't
Speaker 5: flown much because I'm six one, two forty, I'm not
Speaker 5: trying to fly coach anymore unless you're I can't. I
Speaker 5: would have been wedged into that seat seat belter not
Speaker 5: I would have been hanging upside down and nothing would
Speaker 5: have need to restrain me. I couldn't get out either way,
Speaker 5: so the people next to me. That's the one moment
Speaker 5: if I was in the middle seat that the two
Speaker 5: people next to me would have been so glad. I
Speaker 5: could have just extended my arms, and we all would
Speaker 5: have been significantly safer.
Speaker 1: I got you, guys, I got you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, safe, y'all.
Speaker 1: It is I man.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I'm not scared. I've never been
Speaker 3: scared to fly ever. And I don't know what it
Speaker 3: will be like the next time I get on an airplane. Well,
Speaker 3: I guess I was just on a plane three weeks ago.
Speaker 8: But it's going to be it's going to be exciting,
Speaker 8: just gonna be like it's gonna be like Goliath, you know,
Speaker 8: at six at Magic Mountain. That's it's gonna be. Like
Speaker 8: I would take this thirty Here's the thing. I would
Speaker 8: take the thousand. Obviously I would read the fine print
Speaker 8: and everything like that.
Speaker 3: But if they were offering thirty thousand, you know that
Speaker 3: they really could be offering like sixty thousand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they don't offer.
Speaker 3: They gonna start with half of what they probably they
Speaker 3: can offer a million, but they gonna start with like
Speaker 3: the lowest fucking offer that they could possibly give for
Speaker 3: what they deem is like their fault in the situation.
Speaker 1: There's a book from early aughts, maybe even late nineties,
Speaker 1: called I Think the Corporation that like covers this whole
Speaker 1: idea that has recently become more and more kind of
Speaker 1: a focus among people criticizing the US that like, corporations
Speaker 1: have legal rights as human beings and they're forced to
Speaker 1: act as psychopaths buy their bylaws because they can't take
Speaker 1: into account like whether they can't have something in their laws,
Speaker 1: or they could, but they don't have something in there,
Speaker 1: like bylaws that is like, well, if it comes to
Speaker 1: like something where we're endangering a life, then obviously we
Speaker 1: do everything in our power to not endanger that life.
Speaker 1: Instead they you know, there's been studies into like car
Speaker 1: companies and other companies that have to make those calculations
Speaker 1: of Okay, like we just found out that there's this
Speaker 1: defect on this car that is already being manufactured. We
Speaker 1: could stop the manufacturing and fix it. That would cost
Speaker 1: us three hundred million dollars, or we could let it
Speaker 1: go out, probably going to kill three to five people,
Speaker 1: and the lawsuits that those people sue us with are
Speaker 1: going to be five percent sound of that, And so
Speaker 1: we owe it to our shareholders to you know, make
Speaker 1: the financially responsible decision that kills the people like they're
Speaker 1: they're doing the trolley problem and being like fuck them kids.
Speaker 5: Essentially, almost like you need a government to regulate who's
Speaker 5: going to switch to the trolley and they can actually
Speaker 5: just instead of just letting it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this book was like his book was saying this
Speaker 1: in like before Citizens United, you know, and now he
Speaker 1: has Citizens United, which made it so that like corporations
Speaker 1: are the only thing that really has any power to
Speaker 1: operate and only thing that really has any government representation.
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe teflon in my blood just makes
Speaker 5: it less sticky, right, maybe a solid favor by making
Speaker 5: it so that literally you can't find a control sample
Speaker 5: to test the effects of teflon in our body because
Speaker 5: literally everyone they've ever tested has it. Maybe microplastics in
Speaker 5: my blin brain. Just give me tiny little plastic thoughts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a ballpit up there, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my thoughts again, planes, plane flights are not getting more dangerous,
Speaker 1: They're getting more fun and more fun. And that's ours
Speaker 1: are getting more like a bullpit. So just I don't
Speaker 1: know what everybody's complaining about.
Speaker 4: I hope that's how it happens.
Speaker 5: This is how you're the frog in the water that's
Speaker 5: slowly boiling. Well, you're just like, well, I have to fly.
Speaker 5: I'll just be excited about it. Right, Well, I'll just
Speaker 5: have slick blood. Well, I'm going to have a ballpit break.
Speaker 5: That's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm going on the next flight that I take. I'm
Speaker 1: going to raise my hands at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: flight like I'm on a roller coaster and not break
Speaker 1: them down until the end of the flight.
Speaker 3: You're land until you land, and the whole time you're
Speaker 3: just whoo.
Speaker 5: Put some of those crashing socks on your arms. That's
Speaker 5: gonna mess up your blood club.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 5: I'm so forty three.
Speaker 3: All these plain things are happening, uh like under the
Speaker 3: Trump administration, and you know, all the fine rings in
Speaker 3: the fa.
Speaker 1: FAA and everything like that.
Speaker 3: Like I hope, like I would this is the this
Speaker 3: is the petty I would be as a Democrat. I
Speaker 3: would like star running my presidential campaign now and like
Speaker 3: take over the MAGA and it's just like make aviation
Speaker 3: great again, and like just like that's what MAGA would be.
Speaker 1: There's so many ways that That's what's so mind boggling
Speaker 1: is there are so many tangible ways that people that
Speaker 1: they're you know, greed and oligarchy are affecting people's lives
Speaker 1: and the fact that like the Democrats can't get a
Speaker 1: coherent message around it is wild. Yet we'll say yet, yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like, yes, this, this should be There should
Speaker 1: be many opportunities. This feels like the first most tangible
Speaker 1: horrifying way that we're seeing is blindly firing and you know,
Speaker 1: just government at random as just like you know, power
Speaker 1: play without without literally any planning.
Speaker 5: Cute. Yeah, waving a rule book at somebody who's long
Speaker 5: since passed on playing by any rules. It's not working
Speaker 5: and they just can't put it down. Timothy Snyder wrote,
Speaker 5: there's a author Timothy Snyder. Book is on Tyranny. Excellent,
Speaker 5: very fast read. But the section that keeps jumping into
Speaker 5: my head over and over again is don't capitulate until
Speaker 5: you have to, Like there's not you don't have to
Speaker 5: obey the rules until they are ruled. Don't get ahead
Speaker 5: of yourself, you know, because some weirdo signs an executive
Speaker 5: order that says it's the Gulf of America. That's not
Speaker 5: a law. That isn't a change. You actually don't have
Speaker 5: to relabel a map to respect that order. An order
Speaker 5: isn't you don't need to you don't need to do that.
Speaker 5: The firing strike me that same way that there's like
Speaker 5: states aren't stepping up to fill the gap that these
Speaker 5: federal firings are leaving behind. And I understand the intricacies
Speaker 5: between state and federal government, but we're past that now.
Speaker 5: The Tenth Amendment is a little bit elastic, and at
Speaker 5: this point it has been stretched to a place where
Speaker 5: like what's expected of from citizens of their government to
Speaker 5: provide the federal government is no longer providing things like
Speaker 5: safe aviation. So if a state needs to step in
Speaker 5: and say, actually, our airports do need to be fully staffed,
Speaker 5: then they need to do like you have an.
Speaker 1: Opportunity you could do that. Yeah, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 5: Have to pretend that this is a rule you have
Speaker 5: to follow, but we do. Democrats are definitely what are
Speaker 5: we supposed to do?
Speaker 1: That's what Hikeem Jefferies is, well, what do we do?
Speaker 1: It's like so many things, so many things?
Speaker 4: Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Caitlin, Yes, it's been such a pleasure
Speaker 1: having it.
Speaker 5: It's always a treat.
Speaker 1: It's always such a treat for us. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5: I'm on Instagram? As Kaitlyn is tall. But the follow
Speaker 5: I would love the most is at Jtree Astronomy. Our
Speaker 5: website is Jtree astronomy dot com. If you ever find
Speaker 5: yourself in the high desert, come and look at stars.
Speaker 5: Self important, yes, but science communication has never been so important.
Speaker 5: It's a great way to feel more connected to the
Speaker 5: universe around you, but also a tiny rebellion every time
Speaker 5: you take in new scientific information and share it with others.
Speaker 5: So if it's been a while since you've been able
Speaker 5: to look up and see the stars, I cannot recommend
Speaker 5: that perspective highly enough in these interesting times, I know
Speaker 5: I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 1: So do we have a celestial event coming up, like
Speaker 1: something with planet's lining up in Oh?
Speaker 5: No, yes, yes we do. The planets are always in
Speaker 5: a cool enlightenment. The Solar system is very tidy. The
Speaker 5: Sun sits in the middle, and all the planets orbit
Speaker 5: the Sun on a flat plane. We call that plane
Speaker 5: the ecliptic. So from the Earth we get a cool
Speaker 5: view where the Sun, Moon, and all the planets actually
Speaker 5: pass our view along the same line, the line we
Speaker 5: call the ecliptic. Right now, it's not that all the
Speaker 5: planets are in a line, as in one right after
Speaker 5: the other. In their orbits, they all find themselves on
Speaker 5: the same side of star. So yes, there's a whole
Speaker 5: bunch of planets out right after sunset. Saturn is kind
Speaker 5: of slipping out of the view sunsets getting a little later.
Speaker 5: Saturn appears pretty low in the western sky, so you
Speaker 5: get a few minutes of a blurry sat through a
Speaker 5: Saturn through a telescope. But Venus, Jupiter, Mars are all
Speaker 5: very easily visible. Mercury is about to join the party.
Speaker 5: Uranus and Neptune are overhead, but you definitely need a
Speaker 5: telescope for those. I have a digital scope that does
Speaker 5: a pretty cool job with Neptune, but even through a
Speaker 5: conventional scope, Neptune looks like a cool blue dot. But yes,
Speaker 5: all the planets are easy to see right after sunset.
Speaker 5: Right now, all the planet Pluto is too cool to
Speaker 5: be a planet. You'd think what makes a planet would
Speaker 5: be a hard and fast rule.
Speaker 4: It is it.
Speaker 5: It's actually a little bit more rubbery. But the one
Speaker 5: thing they kind of stick to is that if you
Speaker 5: are a planet, your orbit around your star is clear,
Speaker 5: You're essentially made of all the stuff that would have
Speaker 5: been in that path. Pluto is out there in a
Speaker 5: whole parade of objects are also ordering the Sun, objects
Speaker 5: that catch all for like literally everything again lex he
Speaker 5: is an object, and asteroid is an object, and this
Speaker 5: as asteroids. There's a whole bunch of like almost planets
Speaker 5: of stuff that was trying to become a planet, but
Speaker 5: various forces already formed in the Solar System kind of
Speaker 5: stopped that from happening. Pluto was orbiting with like thousands
Speaker 5: of other objects stuff. So Pluto's too popular to be
Speaker 5: a planet. We're just like eight with like a few
Speaker 5: hundred moons or whatever whatever. Pluto's out there with like thousands.
Speaker 5: It's got an entourage. It's just like the boss in
Speaker 5: its neighborhood, and billions of miles away from the Sun.
Speaker 5: The Sun looks like a dot. It looks like a
Speaker 5: big dot, but it's just a dot. Like our party
Speaker 5: is just not that important to Pluto. We're like eight
Speaker 5: like minutes from the sun. They're like light hours from
Speaker 5: the Sun. There, they got their own thing.
Speaker 1: I love it. I gotta come in.
Speaker 4: I got to come to one of these tours.
Speaker 5: I yell about science a lot. That's what I've been
Speaker 5: up to online. So if you want to see both
Speaker 5: me yelling about science, you can check that out to
Speaker 5: Jay Tree Astronomy or at Caitlin is Tall on the instagrams.
Speaker 1: I'm off the X.
Speaker 5: I've been off of Twitter since he did the let
Speaker 5: that sink in move. I dipped out at that point.
Speaker 5: Was I love a good pun, but let that sink in?
Speaker 5: With Elon carrying to sink his interest?
Speaker 1: He did when he just took over. Yeah, it was my.
Speaker 5: Knew the end for me. So I have not been
Speaker 5: doing much there and I'm forty four next week. So
Speaker 5: TikTok is I should be arrested if I tried to
Speaker 5: hang out on TikTok unless you're already established as a
Speaker 5: huge viral presence. I have two that's for the children,
Speaker 5: let them play. That's me hanging out alone on a playground.
Speaker 5: That's not appropriate somehow.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn is there work a media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: See there is?
Speaker 5: I see a lot from el Cordova, who I know.
Speaker 5: It's very popular on the YouTube and the TikTok's as well.
Speaker 5: I catch the work over on the instagram. Very fun comedian, scientist, musician.
Speaker 5: If you want to get started the way I did.
Speaker 5: Just smash El Cordova Planet Party into your keyboard and
Speaker 5: a very fun video of the planets all gathering together.
Speaker 5: There's several of them will pop up. I like the style,
Speaker 5: like the I like the humor, like the I like
Speaker 5: the sketches. They're quite funny. Nice and Samuel Bay who
Speaker 5: I mentioned earlier, very funny, always there, Jaquis.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you as their worker media you've been.
Speaker 4: Enjoying, Oh, Jack O'Brien, you can find me.
Speaker 1: In the streets, baby, I knew it.
Speaker 3: You knew it, you knew where you can find me.
Speaker 3: You can also find me at Jaqui's Neil.
Speaker 4: I do have some works in media. I got a couple.
Speaker 3: Things I'll plug for the fans right after I got two.
Speaker 3: I got two so as we know, because I know,
Speaker 3: I know everybody knows. The creator of Nutella, Francesco Rivela,
Speaker 3: has died on Valentine's Day at the age of ninety seven,
Speaker 3: right damn. And then somebody at thank you, But it's
Speaker 3: taking no time or now it's gonna come and give it,
Speaker 3: give it a couple more months. Somebody quote tweeted that
Speaker 3: no I wanted to ask him why the end was
Speaker 3: black in the Nutella sign and it's black and the
Speaker 3: rest of it is, which cracked me up.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: If we got any Severance fans out there, and I
Speaker 3: am a fan of Severance, uh, there is a hat
Speaker 3: that is being made that is making the rounds online
Speaker 3: that says your audi gets no bitches.
Speaker 4: That cracks me up.
Speaker 3: If you don't know what Severance is or don't watch it,
Speaker 3: that means absolutely nothing to you. But if you watch
Speaker 3: Severance and you know what that means, that's very fucking funny.
Speaker 3: Uh So those were making me laugh. Comedian Clash is
Speaker 3: this weekend if anybody, if anybody wants to check it
Speaker 3: out where it's a allisioned theater in Los Angeles. But
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, I want, I want to
Speaker 3: see what the zegang really talking about because I feel
Speaker 3: like we I promote like the shows and you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what the zeit gang is actually showing up.
Speaker 3: So I want, I want, I want, I want you
Speaker 3: all to prove me wrong. If you are not in
Speaker 3: la We got Jason Alexander and Lauren lafkuz Do in
Speaker 3: the show this month, wow, and we got a live
Speaker 3: stream going so you can live stream, you can watch
Speaker 3: it live, or you can watch it up to seven
Speaker 3: days after the live event, so you do not have
Speaker 3: to watch it live. But is this Sunday, six thirty
Speaker 3: pm Pacific Standard time. It's gonna be a fun show.
Speaker 1: Check it out.
Speaker 3: Also check out dropout TV. I'm gonna be showing up
Speaker 3: quite a bit over the next few months. We're going
Speaker 3: into production for something pretty cool and I think that
Speaker 3: is gonna be something that you might want to check out.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah, amazing. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at jack Underscore Brian and on Blue Sky at
Speaker 1: jack Obi and then number one workI Media. I've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus tweeted the week I moved to La, my
Speaker 1: unhinged roommate pointed at Griffith Observatory and said, that's Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy's house. And I believed it for seven years. There's
Speaker 1: something about that because I did, like know that Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy had like an amazing house the Hills. I think
Speaker 1: I would have also believed that for a long time.
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeigeist. We're
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Speaker 1: to the episode wherever you're listening to this, check out
Speaker 1: the description of the show. We'll tell you what the
Speaker 1: show's about. It also show you the footnotes, which is
Speaker 1: where we link off to the sources of the information
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode. We also look off
Speaker 1: to a song that we think you might enjoy. With
Speaker 1: Miles out, we usually like to ask super producer Justin Connor,
Speaker 1: what is a song that you think the listeners might enjoy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this Chicago based rapper named Black Sam that
Speaker 2: I've been feeling lately. He's got this slow, churning cerebral style.
Speaker 2: It's pretty mellow, but very interesting. I've shared a few
Speaker 2: tracks with Miles the other day and we were saying,
Speaker 2: it always sounds like this guy's just got done smoking
Speaker 2: a blunt, so eviould really help you ease to the weekend.
Speaker 4: So this is Kogo by Black Sam.
Speaker 2: The a's r v's instead of a's and his name,
Speaker 2: and you can find that song in the footnotes footnotes.
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Speaker 4: This week we have a.
Speaker 9: Weekly Zeitgeist episode which is just the highlights from this
Speaker 9: week's episode, dropping tomorrow, and then we are back on
Speaker 9: Monday to tell you what was trending over the weekend
Speaker 9: and we will talk to you all then.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jackith, thank you Caitlin. Talk to you guys
Speaker 1: on Monday. By