Speaker 1: Morgan Stewart is a model, actress, reality star, television host,
Speaker 1: and entrepreneur and a sport for coming onto a show
Speaker 1: because I kind of hazed to her a little bit
Speaker 1: years ago on my failed talk show about being on
Speaker 1: a show called Rich Kids of Beverly Hills. So I
Speaker 1: give her credit for coming on. Her career took off
Speaker 1: as a star on the E reality series Rich Kids
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. A life like that certainly must come
Speaker 1: with its stereotypes. But we sit down to discuss the
Speaker 1: details of her journey from her own perspective, this is
Speaker 1: just be with Morgan Stewart. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: I do, but I keep saying to myself, I think
Speaker 1: I owe her an apology because I've never gone back
Speaker 1: and watched the time that you were on the talk show.
Speaker 1: But I know the tone from either like rumblings or
Speaker 1: I don't know why I think that, like that I
Speaker 1: gave you guys too hard a time. And I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna say that. I'm not going to make an
Speaker 1: excuse that producers do prep you and say this is
Speaker 1: like this revolting show about all these rich kids, because
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the show, right you get these papers
Speaker 1: as you know, hi, and these are these kids that
Speaker 1: are these rich kids, and it's there, and I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, the producers wanted there to be like this
Speaker 1: salacious segment and so and I guess, to be perfectly honest,
Speaker 1: a show called Rich Kids of Beverly Hills does sound
Speaker 1: partially vile. So I came on and I think I
Speaker 1: don't remember what, but I remember there being a you
Speaker 1: being the blonde, pretty cute girl on the end, and
Speaker 1: your boyfriend at the time seemed like this, like a
Speaker 1: bossy Beverly Hills, half a nice kid, half a douchebag,
Speaker 1: and like, okay, So I apologize if I was like
Speaker 1: better than or a bitchy or whatever. I whatever you
Speaker 1: perceived me to have been, me to have really been. Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate you even saying that, and
Speaker 1: I actually I watched it back not too long ago,
Speaker 1: and I welcomed but I was so self aware and
Speaker 1: I think we all were that we kind of welcomed
Speaker 1: that interaction with the audience as well, because of course
Speaker 1: the name was vile. The name was sprung up on
Speaker 1: us last minute. Nobody no mind onto that show, being
Speaker 1: like we're signing on Rich Kids of Everything Hill Games
Speaker 1: a titled project, so I remember almost my takeaway from
Speaker 1: that experience was feeling invigorated, like I'm not the person
Speaker 1: you think I am. Let's watch the show. Obviously, to
Speaker 1: use your word, it was a little violent times and
Speaker 1: a little bit obnoxious, of course, but I definitely felt
Speaker 1: like my reaction might have shifted post leaving your set,
Speaker 1: because I think the people around us, who were kind
Speaker 1: of our caretakers of the day were like, let's go.
Speaker 1: That was just not what we expected, and then I was, oh,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. But then I was like, bring it on,
Speaker 1: like we have to kind of be aware that this
Speaker 1: is going to be the reaction of like the average
Speaker 1: American person. So it wasn't all terrible, I get it.
Speaker 1: But what show was I on? Nice poets of demoies?
Speaker 1: I know, but Real Housewives versus Rich Kids is not
Speaker 1: you don't know the name, but I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: actual show. I didn't see your show, but I don't
Speaker 1: know how much more disgusting it could have been than
Speaker 1: what's going on right now in Housewives. I can't imagine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it's definitely different, but yes, I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, so I get what you're saying too,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. And you know, nobody's gonna accuse
Speaker 1: me of not being edited or filtered. So no, um,
Speaker 1: all right, so we met then, and you know, but
Speaker 1: it was on for four seasons, like that's not nothing.
Speaker 1: Now that I you know, have institutional knowledge about that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, that's not nothing. So it was a
Speaker 1: success by everyone's standards, I guess. So. I mean the
Speaker 1: whole time we filmed the show, the network kind of
Speaker 1: played that game, which I mean, you guys probably never
Speaker 1: had because the show's so massively successful. But with us,
Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know if it's gonna be
Speaker 1: another season. The ratings are, you know, five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: now they're getting like nobody. I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't think I never felt Looking back now, I'm like you, oh,
Speaker 1: the show was a success. During it, we never were
Speaker 1: made to feel like it was doing well. We never
Speaker 1: had an audience. I had literally I got married on
Speaker 1: the show to my ex husband, and we had like
Speaker 1: a million overnights that is, as you know, like unheard
Speaker 1: of for e right now. No, that's amazes And I
Speaker 1: remember them pulling and being like or you know what
Speaker 1: it was? Sorry, it was like nine hundred and fifty thousand,
Speaker 1: and they were like, but you just you didn't hit
Speaker 1: a million. No, but that's I'm so glad you're bringing
Speaker 1: this up because when we back in the dark ages
Speaker 1: and I was on reality television and we didn't even
Speaker 1: have Twitter in the beginning, so and I was instrumental
Speaker 1: in this, they would not They didn't give us the ratings.
Speaker 1: That was not something we got. For several seasons, we
Speaker 1: didn't get the ratings. It wasn't something it was emailed.
Speaker 1: And I remember going all the way up to the
Speaker 1: heads and saying like why are we playing hide and seek?
Speaker 1: Like why don't you send you know, we had to
Speaker 1: fish and find them and look it up on the
Speaker 1: internet and find it from other people's and these sites
Speaker 1: that Bravo would say aren't real and we'd find it
Speaker 1: on the press or some other way for years, and
Speaker 1: there was no way to negotiate because you didn't know
Speaker 1: what anything meant, and you didn't know what even ratings meant.
Speaker 1: But they never told us, like the ratings, that there
Speaker 1: were ratings. We were dumbess, you were dumbbies. So Finally
Speaker 1: after years and it was the second time I came back.
Speaker 1: I think, unless I don't think I'm mixing No, I'm
Speaker 1: not mixing stories. I would say, why don't you send
Speaker 1: us once a week in email saying this is the ratings,
Speaker 1: and also if we've done well, why don't you tell
Speaker 1: us we've done well? Which never really happened because they
Speaker 1: always want to keep you down. It wasn't like, why
Speaker 1: don't you say, hey, this is great? Yeah, yeah, no, no, No,
Speaker 1: that's negotiation tactics. That's why they don't send you ratings
Speaker 1: because if your ratings or that's why they I think
Speaker 1: it's almost legally now that they have to. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: when your children or whatever, you don't know what a
Speaker 1: good rating is. So I was like, God, this show
Speaker 1: is just not making it. Looking back, the dumbest thing
Speaker 1: they could have done for their network, not for my life,
Speaker 1: was canceled that show. Oh, Fair, Fair It could have
Speaker 1: gone forever, it could have they that was like the
Speaker 1: last show that had legitimate ratings. I hate to I'm
Speaker 1: not shitting on E, but I'm just saying, like, no,
Speaker 1: it's interesting, that's interesting. Yeah. I didn't even think of
Speaker 1: it that because it could have been it's a franchise.
Speaker 1: It could have been rich kids of everything, just like
Speaker 1: Sunset selling everything funny that I didn't I didn't think
Speaker 1: of that. So um, but I don't think I know.
Speaker 1: I know there's a girl only because I think she's
Speaker 1: friends with Kyle and I've seen her on social media,
Speaker 1: Dorothy Wang. I don't know what she does, but she
Speaker 1: seems to be a big personality. And I don't know
Speaker 1: who else was on that show. So did anybody else
Speaker 1: break out? Because it feels like when I think of you,
Speaker 1: I think about there was a bachelorette that really broke
Speaker 1: out and she did a lot of work. I think
Speaker 1: her name was Ali maybe for a while, she did
Speaker 1: a lot of work, and I always noticed that she
Speaker 1: really got a lot of h got a lot of
Speaker 1: hosting gigs and things. And I think about Kristin Cavalery,
Speaker 1: who really, you know, broke out. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: Lauren did too, but in a different way way, less
Speaker 1: like a company like making money behind the scenes way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Kristin did that too, but I get the sense
Speaker 1: that she's more socially relevant than the company is, like
Speaker 1: blowing it out, but I actually know, um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: get that sense. So what about you, So did you
Speaker 1: have well did you did you think I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: this into something I'm gonna be playing chess? Did you
Speaker 1: think or did you just get lucky after? Like? Or
Speaker 1: do you you hard? I think I think I knew
Speaker 1: before the show, like I always wanted to do something
Speaker 1: like that, I not not be on a reality show,
Speaker 1: but be successful. And just the fact that I was
Speaker 1: always engaging in pretty funny and outspoken, and my personality
Speaker 1: was like my real my only real gift. So I
Speaker 1: was like, it's gonna be in some sort of format
Speaker 1: of television. I just knew that was going to happen.
Speaker 1: And we had tried actually before Rich Kids with another
Speaker 1: company and nothing ever came a bit, and then when
Speaker 1: Rich Kids happened, I just knew, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: was gut instinct. I knew something was going to come after.
Speaker 1: And so I did the four seasons, and I treated
Speaker 1: it like a job the whole time, like I was
Speaker 1: very serious about it. I knew that like I was
Speaker 1: going to be on time. I didn't think I was
Speaker 1: important or special, Like I knew that this moment could
Speaker 1: be gone in two seconds. So um, I think I
Speaker 1: had a pretty good reputation behind the scenes, which you know,
Speaker 1: is like important people didn't want to deal with your
Speaker 1: pain in the ass. So I went into that at
Speaker 1: twenty six like knowing, Okay, you can't be an asshole.
Speaker 1: This is serious. And then towards the end of Rich Kids,
Speaker 1: E came to me separately and was like, look, we
Speaker 1: really want to explore for the relationship with you. We
Speaker 1: think you have something like let's see what that is.
Speaker 1: And once the show ended, I signed a deal with
Speaker 1: them to work at the actual network and I did
Speaker 1: some digital stuff and that kind of snowballed into doing
Speaker 1: Daily Pop for them because Kat Sadler coincidentally decided to leave,
Speaker 1: so there was a spot opening, so you know, and
Speaker 1: it was on the Daily Pop. Yeah, I was the
Speaker 1: host of show, and even the executive producer of Daily
Speaker 1: Pop was like, I'm never going to have this fucking
Speaker 1: girl on, like she doesn't know what the fuck she's doing.
Speaker 1: And it just worked out. So then I did Daily
Speaker 1: Pop and then they wanted to do a nighttime show
Speaker 1: and they were actually outsourcing comedians, like they were looking
Speaker 1: they were scouting for someone else to host it, and
Speaker 1: I went into the office. I was like, nobody's going
Speaker 1: to host a show with me. This is why you
Speaker 1: brought me here, Like I need to host this nighttime show.
Speaker 1: This is my long term goal. That was always the goal,
Speaker 1: and that worked out as well. So I just ended
Speaker 1: that in November after five years. So I was there.
Speaker 1: So when you start walked in, you were like at
Speaker 1: E all the time, and like the way it is
Speaker 1: on the show with Katherine Heigel, you were like going
Speaker 1: down the hall to the office like so I once
Speaker 1: I was finishing Rich Kids nin up. I'm referring to
Speaker 1: right right when she's pregnant the whole time, and they're
Speaker 1: like what ye No, So they offered me a contract
Speaker 1: post Rich Kids, and that was like a basically like
Speaker 1: a nine to five, like you're gonna work here, you're
Speaker 1: gonna really yeah, and you're gonna do digital content and
Speaker 1: we're gonna see if this even works out, we'll see interesting.
Speaker 1: And so I did that and that one year deal
Speaker 1: turned into six years. So I gather knowing the powers
Speaker 1: that be and knowing the genre. Yeah, you did definitely
Speaker 1: didn't make a lot of money at Rich Kids at all.
Speaker 1: I could literally bull's eye what you made and it's
Speaker 1: it's like everyone thinks you're rich because ironically you're a
Speaker 1: rich kid, but you're not a rich kid from that
Speaker 1: show and e two, So you're thinking about how you're
Speaker 1: going to monetize it in the bigger picture. And did
Speaker 1: you grow up was it more like they marketed you
Speaker 1: as that or did you grow up a very wealthy
Speaker 1: person by the nation standard? Yes, but by Beverly Hill standards. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I grew up really, I grew up comfortable. It definitely
Speaker 1: was not on the level of billions of dollars. Dorothy,
Speaker 1: who was my friend and castmate, was like the wealthy
Speaker 1: by like global standards. So that's what I was at, okay,
Speaker 1: And that was really sort of why I was. We
Speaker 1: were all at the beginning taken aback by sort of
Speaker 1: the title, because I was like, you're putting us all
Speaker 1: in a position now where we sort of have to
Speaker 1: like uphold this sort of not facade but just embellished,
Speaker 1: like I am not like you weren't flying private and
Speaker 1: driving a bell no, no, no no, And like at
Speaker 1: that point, I feel like, now you mean this is
Speaker 1: going to invite me mask but like Private seems to
Speaker 1: be a lot more excessive I was literally what I
Speaker 1: was saying too. I was going to say, like back
Speaker 1: when I went rich when we were kids, what other
Speaker 1: people were is not not what goes on now. Well,
Speaker 1: so there's rich and then there's rich. The people all
Speaker 1: the people on the Housewives are not like real rich,
Speaker 1: real there's they're they're rich and a lot of them
Speaker 1: are faking and renting and all the bullshit, and that's
Speaker 1: happened across and bankruptcying. But like, fuck you crazy rich
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills is astronomical and that's why I was.
Speaker 1: And also to simplify it, the best way you can
Speaker 1: put it is those people are not on TV exactly.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, so your parents, you have brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1: What's your brother my Yeah, so my I have an
Speaker 1: older brother, but we have different dads. But so my
Speaker 1: mom was married before had my brother. He's seven years older.
Speaker 1: And and your your your parents are not together. My
Speaker 1: parents are together. They go, oh, that's from her other marriage.
Speaker 1: Your parents aren't together, Okay, and they're still they're they're
Speaker 1: those weird people that love each other and have breakfast, lunch,
Speaker 1: and dinner together and that's weird. Yeah, they're they're they're
Speaker 1: they're the happy there. It's like forty five years together
Speaker 1: now or something by three years. Susanne Summers is weird
Speaker 1: like that, Like they work together together all day and
Speaker 1: her husband, they live for each other. I'm like, please
Speaker 1: don't tell me anymore. Um So, and you're close with them.
Speaker 1: I'm very close with both my parents. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: talked to my mom all day every day. My dad
Speaker 1: and I are very close, and we're close in different ways.
Speaker 1: But that is the one thing that I think that
Speaker 1: has stood out for me my whole life. Like I
Speaker 1: got really lucky in that sense. Like they are we
Speaker 1: are just a little threesome. That's weird to say, but
Speaker 1: we're a team a pot. Yes. And they're quote unquote normal.
Speaker 1: They're civilians. They're not like entertainment Hollywood type people, not
Speaker 1: at all totally normal. My dad worked in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: He was a builder, architect, and my mom is actually
Speaker 1: from Switzerland, so she's very normal and like all of
Speaker 1: the things that I have that I credit to being
Speaker 1: like somewhat of a stand up human and know what's
Speaker 1: going on is because of her, for sure. Okay, and
Speaker 1: so you were married for a minute to the guy
Speaker 1: on the show, and did the show helped propel that,
Speaker 1: like it all sounded good and exciting and things were happening,
Speaker 1: because because I've been through that and it's a train
Speaker 1: and you think you can't get off and everybody's expecting
Speaker 1: it and it's a terrible thing. Also, I don't know
Speaker 1: how your experience is, but then you also like it
Speaker 1: is something you really want in that moment. So if
Speaker 1: it's not for me, looking back, we had we were
Speaker 1: together for six years. We had a really wonderful relationship.
Speaker 1: I can't say anything but nice things about him. He
Speaker 1: truly is a nice person. I definitely think probably more
Speaker 1: on his end, they were like, well, what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: Like what's going on with the next season? Like are
Speaker 1: you proposing? And I think wanted to do I think
Speaker 1: he would have had he not proposed, we probably would
Speaker 1: have broken up a year later. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Interesting? Yeah, but I'm saying these TV shows
Speaker 1: do it's just dad water. You don't realize and it
Speaker 1: at all is fun. Like let's put it this way.
Speaker 1: I never really go anywhere and I never really like
Speaker 1: wear anything. I just have all this stuff that I
Speaker 1: look at because I'm just a real, very very serious homebody,
Speaker 1: not like a thing I just say to be cute.
Speaker 1: It's very serious. I could go days and not leave
Speaker 1: the house. I do go to days and not leave
Speaker 1: the house. So when I was on the Housewives, it
Speaker 1: was great for me in a sense because it gave
Speaker 1: me a reason to like put on clothes and pretend
Speaker 1: that I like doing and go somewhere and I was
Speaker 1: really going somewhere, and I like, I would never entertain,
Speaker 1: for example, but then because of the show I would entertain.
Speaker 1: I would have like people overseer double dipping. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: using that living room in that gorgeous house I have,
Speaker 1: So it's real, but it's because of the show. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're doing these things that are like meta
Speaker 1: because the show is having this happen, and you're having
Speaker 1: this happen, and it becomes more exciting and like it's insular.
Speaker 1: You're like in a tunnel where you're like, this is
Speaker 1: of course supposed to be the next step, and yeah,
Speaker 1: of course they're all real, but it is being motivated
Speaker 1: by the larger pick. That's what I'm saying. It's like shinier,
Speaker 1: It's like shinier and more accentuated. And it's true it is,
Speaker 1: But if the cameras weren't happening and this experience wasn't happening,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the same. It's like if the tree
Speaker 1: fell and no one heard it, it it would be different.
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say. Yeah, no, you're
Speaker 1: completely right. I think that for my particular experience, like
Speaker 1: the goal was always to get married prior to the
Speaker 1: show or any influence, let's say, influence from the show.
Speaker 1: I just think that if the show wasn't happening, maybe
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have happened at that particular moment. But then
Speaker 1: I look back and I was very much like, well,
Speaker 1: when are we getting engaged? Because if we're not getting
Speaker 1: get it, it's all it's a whole whirlpool of just
Speaker 1: like craziness. Exactly the relationship. The way I can look
Speaker 1: at it was, Yes, I think it was perpetuated by
Speaker 1: the next step was perpetuated maybe the timing by the show,
Speaker 1: but we definitely that was our intention the whole time.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and it was supposed to end like it
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be my long term life marriage, right,
Speaker 1: But also it's hard to see things as they really
Speaker 1: are while you're in that frenzy, so like the show
Speaker 1: is not happening, and then you like look at your
Speaker 1: life as it really is without this this, you know,
Speaker 1: with some structure and normalcy. Yeah, so the Daily Pops stopped,
Speaker 1: they canceled it. They stopped both it was called Daily
Speaker 1: Pop and then Night Pop. They ended both of those
Speaker 1: in October. Oh it's recently. Okay, it was like three
Speaker 1: years ago, but it wasn't. And so yeah, I did
Speaker 1: that for I was there for five years total, and
Speaker 1: then I did another I did a show called Necessary
Speaker 1: Realness for them, which was online, and then I did
Speaker 1: another snapchat show with them called What the Fashion. So
Speaker 1: I did four shows for them over the five years.
Speaker 1: And you're still connected to them or like what do
Speaker 1: you so? What are you doing now? And what do
Speaker 1: you want to be doing? And I got my last
Speaker 1: check from them like two weeks ago, Okay, not connected
Speaker 1: to them at all. And then I'm working on a product,
Speaker 1: like another TV show, another project I definitely want to
Speaker 1: continue working. But also the schedule I had working at
Speaker 1: E was I mean it was hardcore. I mean I
Speaker 1: had to get up at five every single day I
Speaker 1: was there day. I had to be there at five
Speaker 1: to thirty five forty five six for hair makeup. Like
Speaker 1: it was so full on that it was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was five days a week. It also never stopped.
Speaker 1: They didn't break for holidays. Christ It was three sixty five,
Speaker 1: so you know, most shows film for the year and
Speaker 1: then they stopped for the summer. This was not. This
Speaker 1: was year round. So it was very interesting because it's
Speaker 1: like an archaic model. It's almost like you're like the
Speaker 1: studio owns, you know what I mean, Like you're attached
Speaker 1: to a studio, so you have a salary, but you're
Speaker 1: doing shows. It's just like a different model. It's so
Speaker 1: and I literally coming off that ride. I mean it
Speaker 1: took me like two months to even get like I
Speaker 1: was so beyond fatigue and didn't even realize, Ah, that's nice,
Speaker 1: that's nice to like let it go and you're probably
Speaker 1: still coming down. It's not that it's like completely after
Speaker 1: having a baby, you're not really normal for a while.
Speaker 1: A long time. I had two babies in two years.
Speaker 1: I was still working throughout both babies. It was wild times.
Speaker 1: So how old are your kids now? So my daughter
Speaker 1: is going to be two tomorrow and my son is
Speaker 1: going to be one on Friday, So that that's insane.
Speaker 1: Oh it was insane because a lot of guilt, a
Speaker 1: lot of torn it was Yeah, I mean I was
Speaker 1: like just all of it was. I mean, getting pregnant
Speaker 1: that fast was just the most shocking thing that I
Speaker 1: think happened. And they're literally a year and a day apart. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's you done, so done, beyond done? Yeah, cooked done.
Speaker 1: And what's your your husband's name is I'm sorry, it's
Speaker 1: Jordan or okay because I wouldn't want to mix it
Speaker 1: with a X. So your husband's name is Jordan and
Speaker 1: he's in the entertainment industry. Also yeah, well he's a musician,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I guess so yeah, okay, And does he
Speaker 1: go on tour and he's got his own crazy life
Speaker 1: Boes on tour has done tours like last I think
Speaker 1: last year he was on tour, he went out with
Speaker 1: the Jonas brothers. He opened up for them, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: So that was crazy. So then I was like with pregnant,
Speaker 1: with one baby brought the other baby was with him,
Speaker 1: Like I moved to New York for three weeks to
Speaker 1: kind of like houb out of there go. It was
Speaker 1: a little it's been a lot the last few years,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it, and so he can't say he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Did he look at you like, what the hell are
Speaker 1: you doing with all this with these two with the
Speaker 1: two kids and with the schedule or no, because he's
Speaker 1: living a crazy life too, like are you both? I
Speaker 1: think he was really supportive, and I think he knows
Speaker 1: how important it is for me as a human being
Speaker 1: to work, like I just am not that person. There's
Speaker 1: absolutely no shame in being to stay at home mother.
Speaker 1: I think, noel to be with your children if you
Speaker 1: want to do that all day. I just know for
Speaker 1: me being the best version of myself, I have to
Speaker 1: have something to do. Even yeah, I just I mean
Speaker 1: even like my days, I'm like, I'm just like in
Speaker 1: the same yoga pants every day because I'm like, there's
Speaker 1: nowhere for me to really be in That lack of
Speaker 1: purpose kind of sends me on a bit of a
Speaker 1: I'm in it. I'm much older than you, but I'm
Speaker 1: in that stage. I have a very big business and
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, but I am in
Speaker 1: that stage. But you'll get to that stage where you
Speaker 1: don't really want, like you don't even know that you want.
Speaker 1: You want like the slightest bit of purpose, but you
Speaker 1: don't want that much purpose. Yeah, Like it's it'll come,
Speaker 1: and it'll you'll remember that I said this to you
Speaker 1: because it will be very unique. You'll have been on
Speaker 1: the treadmill and knowing how it feels to be exhausted,
Speaker 1: but then sort of want to get on again or
Speaker 1: a different treadmill. Then you'll get to a point where
Speaker 1: you're like, I really just don't want to be on
Speaker 1: any treadmill. It's really interesting because you gotta get to fifty.
Speaker 1: And then you'll say, but we have ways for that.
Speaker 1: So so you're with Jordan. How did you guys meet?
Speaker 1: We actually dated. We dated ten years ago for the
Speaker 1: first time, so before I met my last husband. We
Speaker 1: were together for a year and a half. We lived together.
Speaker 1: He was actually dating a friend of mine and then
Speaker 1: they we weren't that close. I told her straight up.
Speaker 1: It was one of the most awkward conversations. I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: this is weird, but we're gonna go for this, and
Speaker 1: we did for a year and a half. We broke up,
Speaker 1: did not keep in touch at all. I randomly, why
Speaker 1: did you break up? We just were young and it
Speaker 1: just wasn't too much. It was just too much. We're
Speaker 1: just children, and so, you know, we did not keep
Speaker 1: in touch whatsoever. And most of the boyfriends that I
Speaker 1: had prior to him, like all went to Beverly High
Speaker 1: and all kind of you know, were between Cannon and
Speaker 1: Beverly Drive, and I saw everybody every single day. He
Speaker 1: was like the first boyfriend I had that Like, we
Speaker 1: dated for the year and a half. We broke up.
Speaker 1: That was it. And I randomly kind of kept in
Speaker 1: touch with his older brother here and there for random things,
Speaker 1: and then I would see his parents around and we
Speaker 1: kind of had like a connection somehow. And then I
Speaker 1: got married and then divorced and he was in a
Speaker 1: long term relationship and then he kind of literally DMed me.
Speaker 1: He was like hi, and I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: a fucking moron, Like I'm not going you're doing whatever
Speaker 1: you're doing, You're traveling, like I am getting into how
Speaker 1: do you know everything he's doing. I just knew through
Speaker 1: the grape vine, but you just really hadn't seen him
Speaker 1: at all for years. Nothing. I had seen him at
Speaker 1: his brother randomly invited me and my ex husband to
Speaker 1: a white party they were having like three years prior,
Speaker 1: and I saw him for two seconds and I went
Speaker 1: up to be like, hi, how are you? And he
Speaker 1: was so like not that friend, and he's like hey,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, well, but let me
Speaker 1: does he everyone knows each other in that small world.
Speaker 1: And so, and he's doctor Drew's son. No, doctor Phil's son. Sorry,
Speaker 1: he's I know doctor Drew. And I like that. I
Speaker 1: love Doctor Drew. I will Yeah, he's amazing. So he's
Speaker 1: doctor Phil's son. Yeah. So he's got a little swag,
Speaker 1: he's got game. I assume I'm gonna look him up.
Speaker 1: I assume he's good looking. So does he have a look?
Speaker 1: Does he Does he have game? And that like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he thinks he's he's hot
Speaker 1: and he's a musician. He's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: hot stepper. There's literally no, there's no duche tree to
Speaker 1: this one. He's like funny, dirty, sweet, like very yeah
Speaker 1: he looks like that. Yeah, got it, okay, and most
Speaker 1: importantly like quite intelligent. Okay, so no dishbaggery. And he
Speaker 1: dms you. So he just was intrigued yeah, just was like,
Speaker 1: what's up, how's it going. We chatted for a few months,
Speaker 1: and then I ended up seeing him in New York
Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen, and I literally didn't even want to go.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not even going to do this. Well
Speaker 1: exact way to go get a drink, and it was
Speaker 1: you weren't doing it. I was dumb. There's nothing going
Speaker 1: to end in anything. I was like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go through. Like I'm going through enough right now. I
Speaker 1: don't need to deal with that. So I saw him there,
Speaker 1: we hung out. It was like fine, we continued, he
Speaker 1: continued to chat. It was Mexico. Then I went to
Speaker 1: Mexico for New Year's he was still on tour. I
Speaker 1: slammed my hand in the door randomly. It was like
Speaker 1: one of those doors where you slide, and then the
Speaker 1: other one came sliding, so I had to go to
Speaker 1: hospital her. And then I was really at a breaking
Speaker 1: point and I was like, what is this year? This
Speaker 1: is so fucked, Like just let me live for five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he sent flowers to Mexico because you were
Speaker 1: heard in my hand and I was like, that's kind
Speaker 1: of like serious. That was December, and then he came back.
Speaker 1: We hung out for January, and then the world got
Speaker 1: shut down. That's how long ago that this too? I
Speaker 1: don't the time. I think that's anything same the start
Speaker 1: of three years ago now, I mean, okay, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: I literally Paul could do that was ninety two. That
Speaker 1: was seventy. I don't know what year, what year it is,
Speaker 1: I don't know twenty seventeens, so I don't that was
Speaker 1: three years ago. Okay, got it. I'm the exact same way.
Speaker 1: It's funny, but that's my only frame of reference. And
Speaker 1: then January we were kind of like living together. I
Speaker 1: had an apartment and by May we what do you
Speaker 1: mean January were living together? A head apart said, this
Speaker 1: was December, December, I was on vacation. He sent me flowers.
Speaker 1: We got back from the trip, he got back from tours.
Speaker 1: Through January, we were like hanging out. I had an apartment.
Speaker 1: We were like he was living at the at a hotel.
Speaker 1: And then he rented a house because he was selling
Speaker 1: his house, and I basically ended up moving into that house,
Speaker 1: still going home, but spending most of my time. This
Speaker 1: is when and you're a single human being you're young,
Speaker 1: you've got fucking rich, hot musician, and you're gonna do
Speaker 1: this for the pandemic. I love this, and I we
Speaker 1: at this point, we didn't know the pandemic was going
Speaker 1: to be the pandemic. So I was very much like,
Speaker 1: I pay for my own rent, I pay for my
Speaker 1: own clothes, I pay for my own health injurance. I
Speaker 1: am an independent woman. I am not gonna like get
Speaker 1: swept up in this. I still pay. So I made
Speaker 1: a rule to like sleep home for a few nights
Speaker 1: a week, and that lasted about a month and then
Speaker 1: January were fully fully living together at that point. In March,
Speaker 1: and then by May we were pregnant stop first child.
Speaker 1: What my birthdays made me? Second? Oh, in my for
Speaker 1: the first the first time we ever had unprotected sex,
Speaker 1: the first ever. This is like knocked up. That's hysterical
Speaker 1: that you worked at EAT because you're live like this
Speaker 1: is knocked up, except that he's not. You like it,
Speaker 1: you love him, but they left the that's hilarious. Wow, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then July we got engaged. December we got married.
Speaker 1: I gave birth in February, and then we did it
Speaker 1: all again because in May again, I got pregnant. I
Speaker 1: hadn't even had I mean, this is I don't know
Speaker 1: how much we can say on the show. I hadn't
Speaker 1: even had like a full period. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: you made your Yeah, it worked and may it was
Speaker 1: my birthday again. I guess that's when we do things.
Speaker 1: And literally I found out when I was eight weeks.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't don't make a joke. It's positive. We
Speaker 1: know you're just feeling like shit, it's final, You're right.
Speaker 1: I looked away for one second on that test. One
Speaker 1: second I was like and it said and I literally
Speaker 1: could not move for three minutes. And I went to
Speaker 1: the doctor and she literally said to me, your dude,
Speaker 1: date is February seventeenth. My daughter's due date was February fourteenth.
Speaker 1: I had her on the sixteenth, so they are I
Speaker 1: had him on the seventeenth, so they are one year
Speaker 1: and one day. It's like jippy life, like you must
Speaker 1: be saying, so exhausted. I think it's great that this
Speaker 1: all like like this ended this anything for a moment,
Speaker 1: you need a breath because you'll has you can't get
Speaker 1: out with that pay in the bill. It will come
Speaker 1: some other place that insane. Okay, So you're that's amazing, okay,
Speaker 1: And you have a good relationship and a good kids.
Speaker 1: How do you stay connected with all these parts? Because
Speaker 1: I am in a relationship with someone who lives in
Speaker 1: a different state and it and it works. It works
Speaker 1: because there comes a time when you're honest about like,
Speaker 1: not what a relationship should be, but what a relationship
Speaker 1: actually is, and that if you're a person who really
Speaker 1: likes your own time. And I used to not even
Speaker 1: know that I wanted to have my own time in
Speaker 1: a relationship because I just I didn't have the same
Speaker 1: career and the same kids. So it was always what
Speaker 1: are we doing? What do we do? I have? So
Speaker 1: I have one life with my child, I have one
Speaker 1: life with Paul and the blending I have one and
Speaker 1: I have one life with my work and one life
Speaker 1: on my own, like and I love them all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's not fantasy, it's reality and um, and it's
Speaker 1: not easy to stay connected. But then you, Cheryl hend said,
Speaker 1: you go, you do these amazing things and you bank
Speaker 1: these new memories and like you live off of those,
Speaker 1: Like we just went to Puerto Rico and we hadn't
Speaker 1: been on an Alane vacasion for a year that was romantic,
Speaker 1: and we came in on fumes and we went and like,
Speaker 1: now we have that to bank, so we have a
Speaker 1: little spring in our stuff and then we'll paid each
Speaker 1: other in a couple of weeks and need you know,
Speaker 1: something to get us to the next thing. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a very realistic relationship, which it may not sound sexy,
Speaker 1: but that's so I ask you because I'm hearing all
Speaker 1: these ingredients no different than hearing about ben Affleck and
Speaker 1: Jennifer seventy two red carpet events in one year, wide
Speaker 1: leg jeans in July and in Italy. He's an addict,
Speaker 1: they have kids, they have break up like this cannot
Speaker 1: be perfect. The wide leg jeans in July and Italy
Speaker 1: really just speaks to me on because it's it's in
Speaker 1: the city. You're right, you're wearing wide leg, cameltoe thick
Speaker 1: jeans in a metropolis in Europe. That alone, would I'd
Speaker 1: break up with Paul like I'd be like I couldn't
Speaker 1: handle it. It was the wide leg paparazzi jeans. I'm done, No,
Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent. And that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: That's somebody that doesn't want to have that balance, right,
Speaker 1: Like what you were saying earlier out at a certain age,
Speaker 1: she wants to be the biggest star in the entire
Speaker 1: world in every facet, whether it's makeup, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to be that person. I think for us, this
Speaker 1: is also something that I'm so acutely aware of in
Speaker 1: terms of like, you know, we're very fortunate people, So
Speaker 1: me telling you, we really get to prioritize our relationship
Speaker 1: because we are fortunate enough to have people that help
Speaker 1: us with our children, right, Like, so we are able
Speaker 1: to go out for dinner and be together. And you know,
Speaker 1: I know my kids are taken care of. I know
Speaker 1: that I'm a damn good mother. I'm with them as
Speaker 1: much as I possibly can be. I guide them, I'm patient,
Speaker 1: I drive them to all the things. But we really
Speaker 1: make it a priority to be together with like zero kidshit.
Speaker 1: Now we're lucky we get to do Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: can it not everyone gets to do that. That's even
Speaker 1: before we had kids. We had the conversation like this
Speaker 1: is gonna get really gnarly, and it's so easy to
Speaker 1: be so and we are exhausted, right, Like I just came,
Speaker 1: he didn't have COVID. I was alone with both of them,
Speaker 1: and I like saved him because I was like, I
Speaker 1: want you to stay healthy because I don't want God
Speaker 1: forbid you to get say, he stayed in his like
Speaker 1: little studio in the back. He looked quarantined away from us.
Speaker 1: But I'd rather him be clear. But that's sort of
Speaker 1: what we do. But you know, he might. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking yesterday, like he might go on tour again.
Speaker 1: What's that going to look like that It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a shift. That's gonna be difficult. Now the kids are older,
Speaker 1: they have more things that they're doing, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to like fly to you. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: fly home. What's gonna be exhausted. It does sound at
Speaker 1: the beginning, and then it's gonna be just awful, yea awful,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. So we'll have to take it as I think.
Speaker 1: You just take it as it comes. Exactly. You do
Speaker 1: take it as it comes, but just know that it can.
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing if you just make the right decisions
Speaker 1: and you live in reality versus theory. So how your
Speaker 1: in laws get together, So you've got normal parents and
Speaker 1: you've got doctor Phil and as he's still married. No,
Speaker 1: they're not memorating into they are married. There. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: My mother in law and I from the moment we met,
Speaker 1: we always had like a little bit of a connection.
Speaker 1: She has only two boys, but her and I have
Speaker 1: always nice. We've had our thing. I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: no bullshit. We are just like I think. When I
Speaker 1: was younger, I was a little bit more like in
Speaker 1: awe of who she was. And now I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: older and I just see like her as who she is,
Speaker 1: as like a full human and we vibe we really were.
Speaker 1: Oh because you met her, you met her when you
Speaker 1: were dating for a year and a half and you
Speaker 1: were like a child and they had to run the program.
Speaker 1: And now you're peers in a way in a way,
Speaker 1: and I really and she's honestly, would rather not be
Speaker 1: peers with any other human but her. She is wonderful.
Speaker 1: And that was one of the first things I was like,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how are parents going to sit together
Speaker 1: at dinner? Like you know, this is just it's seamless. Oh,
Speaker 1: they love each other. You could travel together. We could
Speaker 1: travel together, my mom and her and his mom like
Speaker 1: email and chat and like can get drinks like there
Speaker 1: isn't because they're so normal. Wasn't she involved in his business?
Speaker 1: I feel like this was she ever involved in his business?
Speaker 1: So she does the show with him. They've had the
Speaker 1: show for twenty two years and she's walked on and
Speaker 1: off that show with him every single day. So they're
Speaker 1: they're nauseatingly best friends too. It's like, I hate to
Speaker 1: say it because it sounds like such bullshit, but like
Speaker 1: it's literally like you walk in and they're like get
Speaker 1: their kitchen counter, like eating pie, and you're like, okay, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: So then you have two nauseatingly perfect parents, so you
Speaker 1: have a good shot. Okay. So and wait you just
Speaker 1: left his show? So their show just ended too, Yes,
Speaker 1: well that was his he decided that. I didn't decide
Speaker 1: my fate. But yes, right, but what oh okay, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: everybody's got more free time. So like doctor so doctor
Speaker 1: Phil and his wife will just come up with like
Speaker 1: pop over and see the baby. What's that? Like? That
Speaker 1: is the funniest. So everyone is always like so are
Speaker 1: they always over her? Are they always? No? Way? Right? Boundaries?
Speaker 1: Nobody but most mother in laws are not like that.
Speaker 1: They're all My mother is weirdly like neurotic crazy, has
Speaker 1: her own shit, is not pushy, does not come over,
Speaker 1: and my mother in law is like, let me know
Speaker 1: if something works for you. If doesn't, I know, You're like,
Speaker 1: I never feel like people are coming in at both
Speaker 1: sides boundaries. It's boundari to because the day is busy
Speaker 1: and we have shit going on and we can't have
Speaker 1: Grandma coming in every second of every day. And they
Speaker 1: totally get that. I'm sure they also know what it's
Speaker 1: like to be like have a pit crew descended upon
Speaker 1: them and like know what privacy means. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have in laws too that are like amazing, like
Speaker 1: they're they're not coming over and sleeping on the pill out.
Speaker 1: You know, they're their own human beings and they are
Speaker 1: way more social than we are and have their own
Speaker 1: lives and they're a lot of boundaries. It's amazing. It's
Speaker 1: called like meals shopping, all the good, it's all the positive.
Speaker 1: It's so true. I think that's another really big benefit
Speaker 1: that my in laws are really good. Like they are
Speaker 1: busy and like he's going to continue to do with
Speaker 1: some other stuff. So it's not like they're ever going
Speaker 1: to be the people that have like a totally free
Speaker 1: Wednesday to come like knock on the door. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're a fully like entertainment industry unit. That's interesting. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: how much you're talking about the business to them? Like
Speaker 1: how much are you and your husband talking to Phil
Speaker 1: and his wife about like the entertainment industry and the
Speaker 1: business end? Do you would you ever work on projects together?
Speaker 1: That's a weird. I would like, I know there's that
Speaker 1: whole like nepotism talk, baby talk or whatever, like I'm
Speaker 1: signed me up for nepotism daughter in law, Like, I
Speaker 1: will take it all day. I was actually I picked
Speaker 1: my father in law's brain all day. I spoke to
Speaker 1: him like when I was doing my last renegotiation and
Speaker 1: his I was literally had to stop him and be like,
Speaker 1: this is cable. This is We're not talking about millions
Speaker 1: of dollars right right, Like you're asking me to like
Speaker 1: ask for the back end of I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: not you're getting shares in viacom And yeah, he's like
Speaker 1: talking You're talking about a puppet show and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like literally under two hundre Like why this is
Speaker 1: not the same bar with reset. I don't think you're
Speaker 1: saying and but I have this idea that I'm working
Speaker 1: on and I was actually supposed to go over. I
Speaker 1: sent him a deck literally two weeks ago to talk
Speaker 1: to him about it, because he's clearly done something right.
Speaker 1: He's been on the air for however long two thousand
Speaker 1: years I mean, and number one, I mean, that doesn't
Speaker 1: happen anymore saying insane and I got COVID, so I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to go there tomorrow. But I are you intimidated though,
Speaker 1: or do you like you just call casually or there
Speaker 1: is a boundary because like I feel there's a little
Speaker 1: like sometimes there, yeah, you tell me, is there like
Speaker 1: uh I am? I definitely think it's no. I will
Speaker 1: text and call. He loves it. They like me. I
Speaker 1: hope when I see him, I'm always like a little
Speaker 1: bit like, oh, you're like that big like you are.
Speaker 1: He is a big presence, he's a big person. He
Speaker 1: talks quickly, he's very with it, he's very So I'm
Speaker 1: kind of sitting there like what is he talking about? Ads?
Speaker 1: Like what? I no, no, no, So so you hippreciate
Speaker 1: you're a little good good intimidated. You appreciate that time.
Speaker 1: You're not trying to waste his time with nonsense garbage. Baby. Totally,
Speaker 1: I don't want to seem like an idiot. But he
Speaker 1: also definitely takes like he doesn't need to take the
Speaker 1: time to do He could be like, that's your my son. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I like this dynamic because I understand
Speaker 1: this dynamic of you feeling good that you are with
Speaker 1: You're with a man who has a very successful family,
Speaker 1: and you know that you have earned your state at
Speaker 1: the table, and you don't feel like they think you're
Speaker 1: that dumb, dumb girl that's marrying the guy for that reason,
Speaker 1: because you are successful in your own right and you've
Speaker 1: made something of yourself. It's not that easy. I get
Speaker 1: the whole thing totally, and I think I came you're
Speaker 1: so right. I came in with some built respect. And also,
Speaker 1: my husband didn't marry any of those girlfriends right, like
Speaker 1: he had plenty of girlfriends in between. I think it
Speaker 1: was really important for him on the guy side of things, like, yes,
Speaker 1: so I need somebody. He's very strong in his purpose.
Speaker 1: He's like fortunate that he gets to pursue his dream
Speaker 1: every single day. He takes it seriously all day. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, are you done yet? And he's kind
Speaker 1: of like, this might not seem like work to you,
Speaker 1: but I'm doing this shit all day. And I think
Speaker 1: it was important for him to have a partner that
Speaker 1: wasn't like gonna just shop all day. I shop all day,
Speaker 1: but I also work all day. I get it. I
Speaker 1: shot you at least leave the house, so you should
Speaker 1: just come over here and take all my stuff? How
Speaker 1: do you extend your fifteen minutes? Like? And I actually
Speaker 1: it's funny because I don't think of you. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have even like I now know who you are, but
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were that same person from that show.
Speaker 1: Like I thought to reconnect that for myself. So that's
Speaker 1: good and something I can relate to. You've definitely become
Speaker 1: your own being separate from that, and that's amazing. And
Speaker 1: so now how do you keep extending it? Like? What
Speaker 1: is your real goal? My real goal is to continue
Speaker 1: down the path that I'm on, Like I'm really trying
Speaker 1: to have a vessel on television that incorporates who I am,
Speaker 1: like three sixty like not the rich kid, not the
Speaker 1: variation of like that person from now on, E that's
Speaker 1: like sort of got a little bit of that, but
Speaker 1: like it's kind of reading what other people are telling
Speaker 1: me to read. Like I need something that's going to
Speaker 1: showcase like all different parts of me, which is something
Speaker 1: I'm working on and hopefully people will like it and
Speaker 1: got it because I see the fact, like the fashion
Speaker 1: comes through that. I love love, love, I mean the fact,
Speaker 1: but even that I don't even get the credit for,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate it, but I love fashion. But there's
Speaker 1: just I think I have a I connect with people
Speaker 1: pretty easily and not in like a bullshitty type of way,
Speaker 1: and I kind of I want that to kind of
Speaker 1: start to transcend and come out. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: been in this like little bit of a box my
Speaker 1: entire career, which is now like crazy to say it,
Speaker 1: but it's been like and you could do a talk
Speaker 1: show and it's a terrible, Oh my god, it was.
Speaker 1: I hated it more than anything I've ever done. But
Speaker 1: there could be a way that you could do that
Speaker 1: where it would not be insufferable. That's what I would like,
Speaker 1: That's what I am trying to Yeah, but I could
Speaker 1: see that I think that would work, but that's a grind.
Speaker 1: So you have to find a way that's not torture.
Speaker 1: You have to be honest. It's when I got it.
Speaker 1: I remember getting a talk show and I was out
Speaker 1: in LA and I was with my best friend, and
Speaker 1: I had too much to drink, and I said to her,
Speaker 1: why the hell am I doing? Like because you have,
Speaker 1: But it's one of these things you're supposed to want.
Speaker 1: Someone hands you a diamond, You're like, of course I wanted.
Speaker 1: Of course, why would you want a diamond? You supposed
Speaker 1: to want to and everybody wants to. I didn't want.
Speaker 1: I don't like to be handled. I don't like the
Speaker 1: pit crew on me. I'm a very antisocial person, and
Speaker 1: I don't like to direct traffic and traffic to be
Speaker 1: directed everything that I don't like. It was so you
Speaker 1: have to be so honest with who you really are,
Speaker 1: because it seems so great to do certain things. But
Speaker 1: like if you're honest, as you get older, you keep
Speaker 1: any more and then you just say no to things
Speaker 1: or figure out a way to make it exactly how
Speaker 1: you need it to be. Because because I could see
Speaker 1: you talking, what what does the film schedule? Like? Just
Speaker 1: quickly like were you filming all year or did you
Speaker 1: film for a few months and then go crazy and
Speaker 1: then get to that. I think you are off a
Speaker 1: certain period of time. There's only one season, but they
Speaker 1: had to do two shows a day. But with My Dag,
Speaker 1: you're used to getting up to five and you had
Speaker 1: to wake up and be in there at six forty five.
Speaker 1: It's just it's everything. I don't I don't sleep late.
Speaker 1: I get up at six, but it has to be
Speaker 1: on my terms. Someday I may wake up at seven.
Speaker 1: I cannot be corralled. I cannot be forced. I am
Speaker 1: just like a loose horse. So it's not for me.
Speaker 1: It cannot it has to be. This is perfect, This
Speaker 1: has become, this is This has been wildly successful, shocking
Speaker 1: to me, not shocking, but like the amount of success
Speaker 1: that these shows have been, and it's because it's perfect
Speaker 1: for me. Like, yeah, the structure, Um, I love talking
Speaker 1: to you. It was so unbelievable. I have one more thing,
Speaker 1: the Rose and Thorn of your career. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is so different. I don't even know how to
Speaker 1: simplify what it is. I mean, the rose is obviously
Speaker 1: feeling successful, feeling purpose, feeling like I can connect to people,
Speaker 1: and then the thorn is maybe not being showcased in
Speaker 1: the most authentic way. It's not coming who you really
Speaker 1: are has not come through on these projects. No yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess not fully me yet. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: it's ready to break through that level because it's hoasty,
Speaker 1: it's hosty, it's a little yeah, it's removed, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's not I get it. It's a little vapid. It's
Speaker 1: just not I'm in there, but not no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I get it. It's happened for years. You're amazing good.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. And I have to tell you. My
Speaker 1: mom love you. She's like I love that Bethan. He's
Speaker 1: so real, not full of shit like these other I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so oh yeah, well maybe I'll get to meet her.
Speaker 1: Like I've had so much fun because I get to
Speaker 1: meet people here that I get to know. So now
Speaker 1: I feel like I know you. So yeah, maybe one
Speaker 1: time in LA will get together. I see to meet you.
Speaker 1: I'll see later. God, I keep loving the show. Every
Speaker 1: time I do the show, I do homework. I think
Speaker 1: we like, am I gonna have something to talk about?
Speaker 1: I don't even know who someone is for the most part,
Speaker 1: Like I know who they are, but I don't really
Speaker 1: know anything about them, And I just the Juicy Center
Speaker 1: is so great, what a great thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: that anyone's ever heard half of what Morgan Stewart just said.
Speaker 1: I think she's so interesting. I'm so grateful if the
Speaker 1: show can highlight someone in a way that you would
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