1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Morgan Stewart is a model, actress, reality star, television host, 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: and entrepreneur and a sport for coming onto a show 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: because I kind of hazed to her a little bit 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: years ago on my failed talk show about being on 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: a show called Rich Kids of Beverly Hills. So I 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: give her credit for coming on. Her career took off 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: as a star on the E reality series Rich Kids 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. A life like that certainly must come 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: with its stereotypes. But we sit down to discuss the 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: details of her journey from her own perspective, this is 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: just be with Morgan Stewart. So I don't know if 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I do, but I keep saying to myself, I think 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: I owe her an apology because I've never gone back 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: and watched the time that you were on the talk show. 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: But I know the tone from either like rumblings or 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: I don't know why I think that, like that I 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: gave you guys too hard a time. And I'm not 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: even gonna say that. I'm not going to make an 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: excuse that producers do prep you and say this is 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: like this revolting show about all these rich kids, because 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the show, right you get these papers 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: as you know, hi, and these are these kids that 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: are these rich kids, and it's there, and I guess, 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, the producers wanted there to be like this 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: salacious segment and so and I guess, to be perfectly honest, 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: a show called Rich Kids of Beverly Hills does sound 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: partially vile. So I came on and I think I 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: don't remember what, but I remember there being a you 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: being the blonde, pretty cute girl on the end, and 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: your boyfriend at the time seemed like this, like a 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: bossy Beverly Hills, half a nice kid, half a douchebag, 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: and like, okay, So I apologize if I was like 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: better than or a bitchy or whatever. I whatever you 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: perceived me to have been, me to have really been. Well. 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate you even saying that, and 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I actually I watched it back not too long ago, 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: and I welcomed but I was so self aware and 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: I think we all were that we kind of welcomed 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: that interaction with the audience as well, because of course 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: the name was vile. The name was sprung up on 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: us last minute. Nobody no mind onto that show, being 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: like we're signing on Rich Kids of Everything Hill Games 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: a titled project, so I remember almost my takeaway from 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: that experience was feeling invigorated, like I'm not the person 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: you think I am. Let's watch the show. Obviously, to 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: use your word, it was a little violent times and 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: a little bit obnoxious, of course, but I definitely felt 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: like my reaction might have shifted post leaving your set, 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: because I think the people around us, who were kind 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: of our caretakers of the day were like, let's go. 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: That was just not what we expected, and then I was, oh, 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't. But then I was like, bring it on, 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: like we have to kind of be aware that this 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: is going to be the reaction of like the average 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: American person. So it wasn't all terrible, I get it. 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: But what show was I on? Nice poets of demoies? 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: I know, but Real Housewives versus Rich Kids is not 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: you don't know the name, but I'm talking about the 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: actual show. I didn't see your show, but I don't 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: know how much more disgusting it could have been than 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: what's going on right now in Housewives. I can't imagine. Yeah, 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: it was, it's definitely different, but yes, I get what 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, so I get what you're saying too, 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. And you know, nobody's gonna accuse 65 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: me of not being edited or filtered. So no, um, 66 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: all right, so we met then, and you know, but 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: it was on for four seasons, like that's not nothing. 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Now that I you know, have institutional knowledge about that 69 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: sort of thing, that's not nothing. So it was a 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: success by everyone's standards, I guess. So. I mean the 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: whole time we filmed the show, the network kind of 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: played that game, which I mean, you guys probably never 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: had because the show's so massively successful. But with us, 74 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know if it's gonna be 75 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: another season. The ratings are, you know, five hundred thousand 76 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: now they're getting like nobody. I was like, oh, I 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: don't think I never felt Looking back now, I'm like you, oh, 78 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: the show was a success. During it, we never were 79 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: made to feel like it was doing well. We never 80 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: had an audience. I had literally I got married on 81 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: the show to my ex husband, and we had like 82 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: a million overnights that is, as you know, like unheard 83 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: of for e right now. No, that's amazes And I 84 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: remember them pulling and being like or you know what 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: it was? Sorry, it was like nine hundred and fifty thousand, 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: and they were like, but you just you didn't hit 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: a million. No, but that's I'm so glad you're bringing 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: this up because when we back in the dark ages 89 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: and I was on reality television and we didn't even 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: have Twitter in the beginning, so and I was instrumental 91 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: in this, they would not They didn't give us the ratings. 92 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: That was not something we got. For several seasons, we 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't get the ratings. It wasn't something it was emailed. 94 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: And I remember going all the way up to the 95 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: heads and saying like why are we playing hide and seek? 96 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Like why don't you send you know, we had to 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: fish and find them and look it up on the 98 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: internet and find it from other people's and these sites 99 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: that Bravo would say aren't real and we'd find it 100 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: on the press or some other way for years, and 101 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: there was no way to negotiate because you didn't know 102 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: what anything meant, and you didn't know what even ratings meant. 103 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: But they never told us, like the ratings, that there 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: were ratings. We were dumbess, you were dumbbies. So Finally 105 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: after years and it was the second time I came back. 106 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: I think, unless I don't think I'm mixing No, I'm 107 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: not mixing stories. I would say, why don't you send 108 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: us once a week in email saying this is the ratings, 109 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: and also if we've done well, why don't you tell 110 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: us we've done well? Which never really happened because they 111 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: always want to keep you down. It wasn't like, why 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: don't you say, hey, this is great? Yeah, yeah, no, no, No, 113 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: that's negotiation tactics. That's why they don't send you ratings 114 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: because if your ratings or that's why they I think 115 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: it's almost legally now that they have to. Yeah, but 116 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: when your children or whatever, you don't know what a 117 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: good rating is. So I was like, God, this show 118 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: is just not making it. Looking back, the dumbest thing 119 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: they could have done for their network, not for my life, 120 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: was canceled that show. Oh, Fair, Fair It could have 121 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: gone forever, it could have they that was like the 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: last show that had legitimate ratings. I hate to I'm 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: not shitting on E, but I'm just saying, like, no, 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: it's interesting, that's interesting. Yeah. I didn't even think of 125 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: it that because it could have been it's a franchise. 126 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: It could have been rich kids of everything, just like 127 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Sunset selling everything funny that I didn't I didn't think 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: of that. So um, but I don't think I know. 129 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: I know there's a girl only because I think she's 130 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: friends with Kyle and I've seen her on social media, 131 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: Dorothy Wang. I don't know what she does, but she 132 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: seems to be a big personality. And I don't know 133 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: who else was on that show. So did anybody else 134 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: break out? Because it feels like when I think of you, 135 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: I think about there was a bachelorette that really broke 136 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: out and she did a lot of work. I think 137 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: her name was Ali maybe for a while, she did 138 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of work, and I always noticed that she 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: really got a lot of h got a lot of 140 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: hosting gigs and things. And I think about Kristin Cavalery, 141 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: who really, you know, broke out. I mean, I know 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Lauren did too, but in a different way way, less 143 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: like a company like making money behind the scenes way. Yeah, 144 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: and Kristin did that too, but I get the sense 145 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: that she's more socially relevant than the company is, like 146 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: blowing it out, but I actually know, um, yeah, I 147 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: get that sense. So what about you, So did you 148 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: have well did you did you think I'm gonna make 149 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: this into something I'm gonna be playing chess? Did you 150 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: think or did you just get lucky after? Like? Or 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: do you you hard? I think I think I knew 152 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: before the show, like I always wanted to do something 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: like that, I not not be on a reality show, 154 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: but be successful. And just the fact that I was 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: always engaging in pretty funny and outspoken, and my personality 156 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: was like my real my only real gift. So I 157 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: was like, it's gonna be in some sort of format 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: of television. I just knew that was going to happen. 159 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: And we had tried actually before Rich Kids with another 160 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: company and nothing ever came a bit, and then when 161 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Rich Kids happened, I just knew, I don't know, it 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: was gut instinct. I knew something was going to come after. 163 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: And so I did the four seasons, and I treated 164 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: it like a job the whole time, like I was 165 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: very serious about it. I knew that like I was 166 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: going to be on time. I didn't think I was 167 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: important or special, Like I knew that this moment could 168 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: be gone in two seconds. So um, I think I 169 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: had a pretty good reputation behind the scenes, which you know, 170 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: is like important people didn't want to deal with your 171 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: pain in the ass. So I went into that at 172 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: twenty six like knowing, Okay, you can't be an asshole. 173 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: This is serious. And then towards the end of Rich Kids, 174 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: E came to me separately and was like, look, we 175 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: really want to explore for the relationship with you. We 176 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: think you have something like let's see what that is. 177 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: And once the show ended, I signed a deal with 178 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: them to work at the actual network and I did 179 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: some digital stuff and that kind of snowballed into doing 180 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Daily Pop for them because Kat Sadler coincidentally decided to leave, 181 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: so there was a spot opening, so you know, and 182 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: it was on the Daily Pop. Yeah, I was the 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: host of show, and even the executive producer of Daily 184 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Pop was like, I'm never going to have this fucking 185 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: girl on, like she doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. 186 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: And it just worked out. So then I did Daily 187 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Pop and then they wanted to do a nighttime show 188 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: and they were actually outsourcing comedians, like they were looking 189 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: they were scouting for someone else to host it, and 190 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: I went into the office. I was like, nobody's going 191 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: to host a show with me. This is why you 192 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: brought me here, Like I need to host this nighttime show. 193 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: This is my long term goal. That was always the goal, 194 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: and that worked out as well. So I just ended 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: that in November after five years. So I was there. 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: So when you start walked in, you were like at 197 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: E all the time, and like the way it is 198 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: on the show with Katherine Heigel, you were like going 199 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: down the hall to the office like so I once 200 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: I was finishing Rich Kids nin up. I'm referring to 201 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: right right when she's pregnant the whole time, and they're 202 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: like what ye No, So they offered me a contract 203 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: post Rich Kids, and that was like a basically like 204 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: a nine to five, like you're gonna work here, you're 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: gonna really yeah, and you're gonna do digital content and 206 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna see if this even works out, we'll see interesting. 207 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: And so I did that and that one year deal 208 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: turned into six years. So I gather knowing the powers 209 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: that be and knowing the genre. Yeah, you did definitely 210 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: didn't make a lot of money at Rich Kids at all. 211 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: I could literally bull's eye what you made and it's 212 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: it's like everyone thinks you're rich because ironically you're a 213 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: rich kid, but you're not a rich kid from that 214 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: show and e two, So you're thinking about how you're 215 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: going to monetize it in the bigger picture. And did 216 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: you grow up was it more like they marketed you 217 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: as that or did you grow up a very wealthy 218 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: person by the nation standard? Yes, but by Beverly Hill standards. Yeah, No, 219 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: I grew up really, I grew up comfortable. It definitely 220 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: was not on the level of billions of dollars. Dorothy, 221 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: who was my friend and castmate, was like the wealthy 222 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: by like global standards. So that's what I was at, okay, 223 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: And that was really sort of why I was. We 224 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: were all at the beginning taken aback by sort of 225 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: the title, because I was like, you're putting us all 226 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: in a position now where we sort of have to 227 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: like uphold this sort of not facade but just embellished, 228 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: like I am not like you weren't flying private and 229 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: driving a bell no, no, no no, And like at 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: that point, I feel like, now you mean this is 231 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: going to invite me mask but like Private seems to 232 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: be a lot more excessive I was literally what I 233 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: was saying too. I was going to say, like back 234 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: when I went rich when we were kids, what other 235 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: people were is not not what goes on now. Well, 236 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: so there's rich and then there's rich. The people all 237 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: the people on the Housewives are not like real rich, 238 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: real there's they're they're rich and a lot of them 239 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: are faking and renting and all the bullshit, and that's 240 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: happened across and bankruptcying. But like, fuck you crazy rich 241 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills is astronomical and that's why I was. 242 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: And also to simplify it, the best way you can 243 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: put it is those people are not on TV exactly. 244 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, so your parents, you have brothers and sisters. 245 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: What's your brother my Yeah, so my I have an 246 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: older brother, but we have different dads. But so my 247 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: mom was married before had my brother. He's seven years older. 248 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: And and your your your parents are not together. My 249 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: parents are together. They go, oh, that's from her other marriage. 250 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: Your parents aren't together, Okay, and they're still they're they're 251 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: those weird people that love each other and have breakfast, lunch, 252 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: and dinner together and that's weird. Yeah, they're they're they're 253 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: they're the happy there. It's like forty five years together 254 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: now or something by three years. Susanne Summers is weird 255 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: like that, Like they work together together all day and 256 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: her husband, they live for each other. I'm like, please 257 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: don't tell me anymore. Um So, and you're close with them. 258 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: I'm very close with both my parents. I'm like, I 259 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: talked to my mom all day every day. My dad 260 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: and I are very close, and we're close in different ways. 261 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: But that is the one thing that I think that 262 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: has stood out for me my whole life. Like I 263 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: got really lucky in that sense. Like they are we 264 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: are just a little threesome. That's weird to say, but 265 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: we're a team a pot. Yes. And they're quote unquote normal. 266 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: They're civilians. They're not like entertainment Hollywood type people, not 267 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: at all totally normal. My dad worked in Beverly Hills. 268 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: He was a builder, architect, and my mom is actually 269 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: from Switzerland, so she's very normal and like all of 270 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: the things that I have that I credit to being 271 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: like somewhat of a stand up human and know what's 272 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: going on is because of her, for sure. Okay, and 273 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: so you were married for a minute to the guy 274 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: on the show, and did the show helped propel that, 275 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: like it all sounded good and exciting and things were happening, 276 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: because because I've been through that and it's a train 277 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: and you think you can't get off and everybody's expecting 278 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: it and it's a terrible thing. Also, I don't know 279 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: how your experience is, but then you also like it 280 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: is something you really want in that moment. So if 281 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: it's not for me, looking back, we had we were 282 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: together for six years. We had a really wonderful relationship. 283 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: I can't say anything but nice things about him. He 284 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: truly is a nice person. I definitely think probably more 285 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: on his end, they were like, well, what's going to happen, 286 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Like what's going on with the next season? Like are 287 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: you proposing? And I think wanted to do I think 288 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: he would have had he not proposed, we probably would 289 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: have broken up a year later. Do you know what 290 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean? Interesting? Yeah, but I'm saying these TV shows 291 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: do it's just dad water. You don't realize and it 292 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: at all is fun. Like let's put it this way. 293 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I never really go anywhere and I never really like 294 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: wear anything. I just have all this stuff that I 295 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: look at because I'm just a real, very very serious homebody, 296 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: not like a thing I just say to be cute. 297 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: It's very serious. I could go days and not leave 298 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: the house. I do go to days and not leave 299 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: the house. So when I was on the Housewives, it 300 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: was great for me in a sense because it gave 301 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: me a reason to like put on clothes and pretend 302 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: that I like doing and go somewhere and I was 303 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: really going somewhere, and I like, I would never entertain, 304 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: for example, but then because of the show I would entertain. 305 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: I would have like people overseer double dipping. Oh, I'm 306 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: using that living room in that gorgeous house I have, 307 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: So it's real, but it's because of the show. So 308 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're doing these things that are like meta 309 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: because the show is having this happen, and you're having 310 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: this happen, and it becomes more exciting and like it's insular. 311 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: You're like in a tunnel where you're like, this is 312 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: of course supposed to be the next step, and yeah, 313 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: of course they're all real, but it is being motivated 314 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: by the larger pick. That's what I'm saying. It's like shinier, 315 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: It's like shinier and more accentuated. And it's true it is, 316 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: But if the cameras weren't happening and this experience wasn't happening, 317 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the same. It's like if the tree 318 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: fell and no one heard it, it it would be different. 319 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say. Yeah, no, you're 320 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: completely right. I think that for my particular experience, like 321 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: the goal was always to get married prior to the 322 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: show or any influence, let's say, influence from the show. 323 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: I just think that if the show wasn't happening, maybe 324 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have happened at that particular moment. But then 325 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: I look back and I was very much like, well, 326 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: when are we getting engaged? Because if we're not getting 327 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: get it, it's all it's a whole whirlpool of just 328 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: like craziness. Exactly the relationship. The way I can look 329 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: at it was, Yes, I think it was perpetuated by 330 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: the next step was perpetuated maybe the timing by the show, 331 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: but we definitely that was our intention the whole time. 332 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, and it was supposed to end like it 333 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be my long term life marriage, right, 334 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: But also it's hard to see things as they really 335 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: are while you're in that frenzy, so like the show 336 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: is not happening, and then you like look at your 337 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: life as it really is without this this, you know, 338 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: with some structure and normalcy. Yeah, so the Daily Pops stopped, 339 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: they canceled it. They stopped both it was called Daily 340 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: Pop and then Night Pop. They ended both of those 341 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: in October. Oh it's recently. Okay, it was like three 342 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: years ago, but it wasn't. And so yeah, I did 343 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: that for I was there for five years total, and 344 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: then I did another I did a show called Necessary 345 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: Realness for them, which was online, and then I did 346 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: another snapchat show with them called What the Fashion. So 347 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I did four shows for them over the five years. 348 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: And you're still connected to them or like what do 349 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: you so? What are you doing now? And what do 350 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: you want to be doing? And I got my last 351 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: check from them like two weeks ago, Okay, not connected 352 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: to them at all. And then I'm working on a product, 353 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: like another TV show, another project I definitely want to 354 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: continue working. But also the schedule I had working at 355 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: E was I mean it was hardcore. I mean I 356 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: had to get up at five every single day I 357 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: was there day. I had to be there at five 358 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: to thirty five forty five six for hair makeup. Like 359 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: it was so full on that it was. It was. 360 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: It was five days a week. It also never stopped. 361 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: They didn't break for holidays. Christ It was three sixty five, 362 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: so you know, most shows film for the year and 363 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: then they stopped for the summer. This was not. This 364 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: was year round. So it was very interesting because it's 365 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: like an archaic model. It's almost like you're like the 366 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: studio owns, you know what I mean, Like you're attached 367 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: to a studio, so you have a salary, but you're 368 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: doing shows. It's just like a different model. It's so 369 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: and I literally coming off that ride. I mean it 370 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: took me like two months to even get like I 371 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: was so beyond fatigue and didn't even realize, Ah, that's nice, 372 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: that's nice to like let it go and you're probably 373 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: still coming down. It's not that it's like completely after 374 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: having a baby, you're not really normal for a while. 375 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: A long time. I had two babies in two years. 376 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: I was still working throughout both babies. It was wild times. 377 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: So how old are your kids now? So my daughter 378 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: is going to be two tomorrow and my son is 379 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: going to be one on Friday, So that that's insane. 380 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: Oh it was insane because a lot of guilt, a 381 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: lot of torn it was Yeah, I mean I was 382 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: like just all of it was. I mean, getting pregnant 383 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: that fast was just the most shocking thing that I 384 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: think happened. And they're literally a year and a day apart. Wow, Wow, 385 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: that's you done, so done, beyond done? Yeah, cooked done. 386 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: And what's your your husband's name is I'm sorry, it's 387 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: Jordan or okay because I wouldn't want to mix it 388 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: with a X. So your husband's name is Jordan and 389 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: he's in the entertainment industry. Also yeah, well he's a musician, 390 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: so yeah, I guess so yeah, okay, And does he 391 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: go on tour and he's got his own crazy life 392 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: Boes on tour has done tours like last I think 393 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: last year he was on tour, he went out with 394 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: the Jonas brothers. He opened up for them, which is amazing. 395 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: So that was crazy. So then I was like with pregnant, 396 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: with one baby brought the other baby was with him, 397 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Like I moved to New York for three weeks to 398 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: kind of like houb out of there go. It was 399 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: a little it's been a lot the last few years, 400 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like it, and so he can't say he doesn't. 401 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: Did he look at you like, what the hell are 402 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: you doing with all this with these two with the 403 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: two kids and with the schedule or no, because he's 404 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: living a crazy life too, like are you both? I 405 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: think he was really supportive, and I think he knows 406 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: how important it is for me as a human being 407 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: to work, like I just am not that person. There's 408 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: absolutely no shame in being to stay at home mother. 409 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: I think, noel to be with your children if you 410 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: want to do that all day. I just know for 411 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: me being the best version of myself, I have to 412 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: have something to do. Even yeah, I just I mean 413 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: even like my days, I'm like, I'm just like in 414 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: the same yoga pants every day because I'm like, there's 415 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: nowhere for me to really be in That lack of 416 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: purpose kind of sends me on a bit of a 417 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm in it. I'm much older than you, but I'm 418 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: in that stage. I have a very big business and 419 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, but I am in 420 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: that stage. But you'll get to that stage where you 421 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: don't really want, like you don't even know that you want. 422 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: You want like the slightest bit of purpose, but you 423 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: don't want that much purpose. Yeah, Like it's it'll come, 424 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and it'll you'll remember that I said this to you 425 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: because it will be very unique. You'll have been on 426 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: the treadmill and knowing how it feels to be exhausted, 427 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: but then sort of want to get on again or 428 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: a different treadmill. Then you'll get to a point where 429 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: you're like, I really just don't want to be on 430 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: any treadmill. It's really interesting because you gotta get to fifty. 431 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: And then you'll say, but we have ways for that. 432 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: So so you're with Jordan. How did you guys meet? 433 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: We actually dated. We dated ten years ago for the 434 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: first time, so before I met my last husband. We 435 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: were together for a year and a half. We lived together. 436 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: He was actually dating a friend of mine and then 437 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: they we weren't that close. I told her straight up. 438 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: It was one of the most awkward conversations. I was like, listen, 439 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: this is weird, but we're gonna go for this, and 440 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: we did for a year and a half. We broke up, 441 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: did not keep in touch at all. I randomly, why 442 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: did you break up? We just were young and it 443 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: just wasn't too much. It was just too much. We're 444 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: just children, and so, you know, we did not keep 445 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: in touch whatsoever. And most of the boyfriends that I 446 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: had prior to him, like all went to Beverly High 447 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: and all kind of you know, were between Cannon and 448 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Beverly Drive, and I saw everybody every single day. He 449 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: was like the first boyfriend I had that Like, we 450 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: dated for the year and a half. We broke up. 451 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: That was it. And I randomly kind of kept in 452 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: touch with his older brother here and there for random things, 453 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: and then I would see his parents around and we 454 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of had like a connection somehow. And then I 455 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: got married and then divorced and he was in a 456 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: long term relationship and then he kind of literally DMed me. 457 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: He was like hi, and I was like, I'm not 458 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: a fucking moron, Like I'm not going you're doing whatever 459 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: you're doing, You're traveling, like I am getting into how 460 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: do you know everything he's doing. I just knew through 461 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: the grape vine, but you just really hadn't seen him 462 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: at all for years. Nothing. I had seen him at 463 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: his brother randomly invited me and my ex husband to 464 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: a white party they were having like three years prior, 465 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: and I saw him for two seconds and I went 466 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: up to be like, hi, how are you? And he 467 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: was so like not that friend, and he's like hey, 468 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, well, but let me 469 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: does he everyone knows each other in that small world. 470 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: And so, and he's doctor Drew's son. No, doctor Phil's son. Sorry, 471 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: he's I know doctor Drew. And I like that. I 472 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: love Doctor Drew. I will Yeah, he's amazing. So he's 473 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: doctor Phil's son. Yeah. So he's got a little swag, 474 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: he's got game. I assume I'm gonna look him up. 475 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: I assume he's good looking. So does he have a look? 476 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: Does he Does he have game? And that like you 477 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he thinks he's he's hot 478 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: and he's a musician. He's a little bit of a 479 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: hot stepper. There's literally no, there's no duche tree to 480 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: this one. He's like funny, dirty, sweet, like very yeah 481 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: he looks like that. Yeah, got it, okay, and most 482 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: importantly like quite intelligent. Okay, so no dishbaggery. And he 483 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: dms you. So he just was intrigued yeah, just was like, 484 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: what's up, how's it going. We chatted for a few months, 485 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: and then I ended up seeing him in New York 486 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen, and I literally didn't even want to go. 487 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not even going to do this. Well 488 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: exact way to go get a drink, and it was 489 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: you weren't doing it. I was dumb. There's nothing going 490 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: to end in anything. I was like, I'm not gonna 491 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: go through. Like I'm going through enough right now. I 492 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: don't need to deal with that. So I saw him there, 493 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: we hung out. It was like fine, we continued, he 494 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: continued to chat. It was Mexico. Then I went to 495 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: Mexico for New Year's he was still on tour. I 496 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: slammed my hand in the door randomly. It was like 497 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: one of those doors where you slide, and then the 498 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: other one came sliding, so I had to go to 499 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: hospital her. And then I was really at a breaking 500 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: point and I was like, what is this year? This 501 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: is so fucked, Like just let me live for five minutes. Yeah, 502 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: and then he sent flowers to Mexico because you were 503 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: heard in my hand and I was like, that's kind 504 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: of like serious. That was December, and then he came back. 505 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: We hung out for January, and then the world got 506 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: shut down. That's how long ago that this too? I 507 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: don't the time. I think that's anything same the start 508 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: of three years ago now, I mean, okay, okay, you know, 509 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: I literally Paul could do that was ninety two. That 510 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: was seventy. I don't know what year, what year it is, 511 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know twenty seventeens, so I don't that was 512 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: three years ago. Okay, got it. I'm the exact same way. 513 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: It's funny, but that's my only frame of reference. And 514 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: then January we were kind of like living together. I 515 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: had an apartment and by May we what do you 516 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: mean January were living together? A head apart said, this 517 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: was December, December, I was on vacation. He sent me flowers. 518 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: We got back from the trip, he got back from tours. 519 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: Through January, we were like hanging out. I had an apartment. 520 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: We were like he was living at the at a hotel. 521 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: And then he rented a house because he was selling 522 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: his house, and I basically ended up moving into that house, 523 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: still going home, but spending most of my time. This 524 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: is when and you're a single human being you're young, 525 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: you've got fucking rich, hot musician, and you're gonna do 526 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: this for the pandemic. I love this, and I we 527 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: at this point, we didn't know the pandemic was going 528 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: to be the pandemic. So I was very much like, 529 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I pay for my own rent, I pay for my 530 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: own clothes, I pay for my own health injurance. I 531 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: am an independent woman. I am not gonna like get 532 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: swept up in this. I still pay. So I made 533 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: a rule to like sleep home for a few nights 534 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: a week, and that lasted about a month and then 535 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: January were fully fully living together at that point. In March, 536 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: and then by May we were pregnant stop first child. 537 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: What my birthdays made me? Second? Oh, in my for 538 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: the first the first time we ever had unprotected sex, 539 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: the first ever. This is like knocked up. That's hysterical 540 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: that you worked at EAT because you're live like this 541 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: is knocked up, except that he's not. You like it, 542 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: you love him, but they left the that's hilarious. Wow, Okay, Yeah, 543 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: and then July we got engaged. December we got married. 544 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: I gave birth in February, and then we did it 545 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: all again because in May again, I got pregnant. I 546 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: hadn't even had I mean, this is I don't know 547 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: how much we can say on the show. I hadn't 548 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: even had like a full period. I mean, you know 549 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: you made your Yeah, it worked and may it was 550 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: my birthday again. I guess that's when we do things. 551 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: And literally I found out when I was eight weeks. 552 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: He's like, don't don't make a joke. It's positive. We 553 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: know you're just feeling like shit, it's final, You're right. 554 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I looked away for one second on that test. One 555 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: second I was like and it said and I literally 556 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: could not move for three minutes. And I went to 557 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: the doctor and she literally said to me, your dude, 558 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: date is February seventeenth. My daughter's due date was February fourteenth. 559 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: I had her on the sixteenth, so they are I 560 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: had him on the seventeenth, so they are one year 561 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: and one day. It's like jippy life, like you must 562 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: be saying, so exhausted. I think it's great that this 563 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: all like like this ended this anything for a moment, 564 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: you need a breath because you'll has you can't get 565 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: out with that pay in the bill. It will come 566 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: some other place that insane. Okay, So you're that's amazing, okay, 567 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: And you have a good relationship and a good kids. 568 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: How do you stay connected with all these parts? Because 569 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I am in a relationship with someone who lives in 570 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: a different state and it and it works. It works 571 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: because there comes a time when you're honest about like, 572 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: not what a relationship should be, but what a relationship 573 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: actually is, and that if you're a person who really 574 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: likes your own time. And I used to not even 575 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: know that I wanted to have my own time in 576 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: a relationship because I just I didn't have the same 577 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: career and the same kids. So it was always what 578 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: are we doing? What do we do? I have? So 579 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: I have one life with my child, I have one 580 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: life with Paul and the blending I have one and 581 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: I have one life with my work and one life 582 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: on my own, like and I love them all. Yeah, 583 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: so it's not fantasy, it's reality and um, and it's 584 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: not easy to stay connected. But then you, Cheryl hend said, 585 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: you go, you do these amazing things and you bank 586 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: these new memories and like you live off of those, 587 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Like we just went to Puerto Rico and we hadn't 588 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: been on an Alane vacasion for a year that was romantic, 589 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: and we came in on fumes and we went and like, 590 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: now we have that to bank, so we have a 591 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: little spring in our stuff and then we'll paid each 592 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: other in a couple of weeks and need you know, 593 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: something to get us to the next thing. But anyway, 594 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: it's a very realistic relationship, which it may not sound sexy, 595 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: but that's so I ask you because I'm hearing all 596 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: these ingredients no different than hearing about ben Affleck and 597 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: Jennifer seventy two red carpet events in one year, wide 598 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: leg jeans in July and in Italy. He's an addict, 599 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: they have kids, they have break up like this cannot 600 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: be perfect. The wide leg jeans in July and Italy 601 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: really just speaks to me on because it's it's in 602 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: the city. You're right, you're wearing wide leg, cameltoe thick 603 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: jeans in a metropolis in Europe. That alone, would I'd 604 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: break up with Paul like I'd be like I couldn't 605 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: handle it. It was the wide leg paparazzi jeans. I'm done, No, 606 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent. And that's the other thing. 607 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: That's somebody that doesn't want to have that balance, right, 608 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: Like what you were saying earlier out at a certain age, 609 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: she wants to be the biggest star in the entire 610 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: world in every facet, whether it's makeup, and I don't 611 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: want to be that person. I think for us, this 612 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: is also something that I'm so acutely aware of in 613 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: terms of like, you know, we're very fortunate people, So 614 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: me telling you, we really get to prioritize our relationship 615 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: because we are fortunate enough to have people that help 616 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: us with our children, right, Like, so we are able 617 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: to go out for dinner and be together. And you know, 618 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: I know my kids are taken care of. I know 619 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: that I'm a damn good mother. I'm with them as 620 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: much as I possibly can be. I guide them, I'm patient, 621 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I drive them to all the things. But we really 622 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: make it a priority to be together with like zero kidshit. 623 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: Now we're lucky we get to do Yeah, no, I 624 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: can it not everyone gets to do that. That's even 625 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: before we had kids. We had the conversation like this 626 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: is gonna get really gnarly, and it's so easy to 627 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: be so and we are exhausted, right, Like I just came, 628 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: he didn't have COVID. I was alone with both of them, 629 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: and I like saved him because I was like, I 630 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: want you to stay healthy because I don't want God 631 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: forbid you to get say, he stayed in his like 632 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: little studio in the back. He looked quarantined away from us. 633 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: But I'd rather him be clear. But that's sort of 634 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: what we do. But you know, he might. I was 635 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: just thinking yesterday, like he might go on tour again. 636 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: What's that going to look like that It's gonna be 637 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: a shift. That's gonna be difficult. Now the kids are older, 638 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: they have more things that they're doing, and I'm gonna 639 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: have to like fly to you. You're gonna have to 640 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: fly home. What's gonna be exhausted. It does sound at 641 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: the beginning, and then it's gonna be just awful, yea awful, 642 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. So we'll have to take it as I think. 643 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: You just take it as it comes. Exactly. You do 644 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: take it as it comes, but just know that it can. 645 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing if you just make the right decisions 646 00:29:44,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: and you live in reality versus theory. So how your 647 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: in laws get together, So you've got normal parents and 648 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: you've got doctor Phil and as he's still married. No, 649 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: they're not memorating into they are married. There. I'm obsessed. 650 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: My mother in law and I from the moment we met, 651 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: we always had like a little bit of a connection. 652 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: She has only two boys, but her and I have 653 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: always nice. We've had our thing. I don't know, it's 654 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: no bullshit. We are just like I think. When I 655 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: was younger, I was a little bit more like in 656 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: awe of who she was. And now I'm like, I'm 657 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: older and I just see like her as who she is, 658 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: as like a full human and we vibe we really were. 659 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: Oh because you met her, you met her when you 660 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: were dating for a year and a half and you 661 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: were like a child and they had to run the program. 662 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: And now you're peers in a way in a way, 663 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: and I really and she's honestly, would rather not be 664 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: peers with any other human but her. She is wonderful. 665 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: And that was one of the first things I was like, 666 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how are parents going to sit together 667 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: at dinner? Like you know, this is just it's seamless. Oh, 668 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: they love each other. You could travel together. We could 669 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: travel together, my mom and her and his mom like 670 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: email and chat and like can get drinks like there 671 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: isn't because they're so normal. Wasn't she involved in his business? 672 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: I feel like this was she ever involved in his business? 673 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: So she does the show with him. They've had the 674 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: show for twenty two years and she's walked on and 675 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: off that show with him every single day. So they're 676 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: they're nauseatingly best friends too. It's like, I hate to 677 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: say it because it sounds like such bullshit, but like 678 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: it's literally like you walk in and they're like get 679 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: their kitchen counter, like eating pie, and you're like, okay, wow, okay, 680 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: So then you have two nauseatingly perfect parents, so you 681 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: have a good shot. Okay. So and wait you just 682 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: left his show? So their show just ended too, Yes, 683 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: well that was his he decided that. I didn't decide 684 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: my fate. But yes, right, but what oh okay, I'm saying, 685 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: everybody's got more free time. So like doctor so doctor 686 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: Phil and his wife will just come up with like 687 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: pop over and see the baby. What's that? Like? That 688 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: is the funniest. So everyone is always like so are 689 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: they always over her? Are they always? No? Way? Right? Boundaries? 690 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Nobody but most mother in laws are not like that. 691 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: They're all My mother is weirdly like neurotic crazy, has 692 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: her own shit, is not pushy, does not come over, 693 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: and my mother in law is like, let me know 694 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: if something works for you. If doesn't, I know, You're like, 695 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: I never feel like people are coming in at both 696 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: sides boundaries. It's boundari to because the day is busy 697 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: and we have shit going on and we can't have 698 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Grandma coming in every second of every day. And they 699 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: totally get that. I'm sure they also know what it's 700 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: like to be like have a pit crew descended upon 701 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: them and like know what privacy means. I mean, yeah, 702 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: I have in laws too that are like amazing, like 703 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: they're they're not coming over and sleeping on the pill out. 704 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, they're their own human beings and they are 705 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: way more social than we are and have their own 706 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: lives and they're a lot of boundaries. It's amazing. It's 707 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: called like meals shopping, all the good, it's all the positive. 708 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: It's so true. I think that's another really big benefit 709 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: that my in laws are really good. Like they are 710 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: busy and like he's going to continue to do with 711 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: some other stuff. So it's not like they're ever going 712 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: to be the people that have like a totally free 713 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday to come like knock on the door. Yeah, but 714 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: you're a fully like entertainment industry unit. That's interesting. Oh yeah, 715 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: how much you're talking about the business to them? Like 716 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: how much are you and your husband talking to Phil 717 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: and his wife about like the entertainment industry and the 718 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: business end? Do you would you ever work on projects together? 719 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: That's a weird. I would like, I know there's that 720 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: whole like nepotism talk, baby talk or whatever, like I'm 721 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: signed me up for nepotism daughter in law, Like, I 722 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: will take it all day. I was actually I picked 723 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: my father in law's brain all day. I spoke to 724 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: him like when I was doing my last renegotiation and 725 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: his I was literally had to stop him and be like, 726 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: this is cable. This is We're not talking about millions 727 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: of dollars right right, Like you're asking me to like 728 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: ask for the back end of I'm like, this is 729 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: not you're getting shares in viacom And yeah, he's like 730 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: talking You're talking about a puppet show and I'm talking 731 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: about like literally under two hundre Like why this is 732 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: not the same bar with reset. I don't think you're 733 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: saying and but I have this idea that I'm working 734 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: on and I was actually supposed to go over. I 735 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: sent him a deck literally two weeks ago to talk 736 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: to him about it, because he's clearly done something right. 737 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: He's been on the air for however long two thousand 738 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: years I mean, and number one, I mean, that doesn't 739 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: happen anymore saying insane and I got COVID, so I'm 740 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: supposed to go there tomorrow. But I are you intimidated though, 741 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: or do you like you just call casually or there 742 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: is a boundary because like I feel there's a little 743 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: like sometimes there, yeah, you tell me, is there like 744 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: uh I am? I definitely think it's no. I will 745 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: text and call. He loves it. They like me. I 746 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: hope when I see him, I'm always like a little 747 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: bit like, oh, you're like that big like you are. 748 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: He is a big presence, he's a big person. He 749 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: talks quickly, he's very with it, he's very So I'm 750 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of sitting there like what is he talking about? Ads? 751 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: Like what? I no, no, no, So so you hippreciate 752 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: you're a little good good intimidated. You appreciate that time. 753 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: You're not trying to waste his time with nonsense garbage. Baby. Totally, 754 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to seem like an idiot. But he 755 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: also definitely takes like he doesn't need to take the 756 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: time to do He could be like, that's your my son. No, 757 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I like this dynamic because I understand 758 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: this dynamic of you feeling good that you are with 759 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: You're with a man who has a very successful family, 760 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: and you know that you have earned your state at 761 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: the table, and you don't feel like they think you're 762 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: that dumb, dumb girl that's marrying the guy for that reason, 763 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: because you are successful in your own right and you've 764 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: made something of yourself. It's not that easy. I get 765 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: the whole thing totally, and I think I came you're 766 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: so right. I came in with some built respect. And also, 767 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: my husband didn't marry any of those girlfriends right, like 768 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: he had plenty of girlfriends in between. I think it 769 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: was really important for him on the guy side of things, like, yes, 770 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: so I need somebody. He's very strong in his purpose. 771 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: He's like fortunate that he gets to pursue his dream 772 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: every single day. He takes it seriously all day. I'm 773 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: kind of like, are you done yet? And he's kind 774 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: of like, this might not seem like work to you, 775 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: but I'm doing this shit all day. And I think 776 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: it was important for him to have a partner that 777 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: wasn't like gonna just shop all day. I shop all day, 778 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: but I also work all day. I get it. I 779 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: shot you at least leave the house, so you should 780 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: just come over here and take all my stuff? How 781 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: do you extend your fifteen minutes? Like? And I actually 782 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: it's funny because I don't think of you. I wouldn't 783 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: have even like I now know who you are, but 784 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were that same person from that show. 785 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: Like I thought to reconnect that for myself. So that's 786 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: good and something I can relate to. You've definitely become 787 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: your own being separate from that, and that's amazing. And 788 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: so now how do you keep extending it? Like? What 789 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: is your real goal? My real goal is to continue 790 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: down the path that I'm on, Like I'm really trying 791 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: to have a vessel on television that incorporates who I am, 792 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: like three sixty like not the rich kid, not the 793 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: variation of like that person from now on, E that's 794 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: like sort of got a little bit of that, but 795 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: like it's kind of reading what other people are telling 796 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: me to read. Like I need something that's going to 797 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: showcase like all different parts of me, which is something 798 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: I'm working on and hopefully people will like it and 799 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: got it because I see the fact, like the fashion 800 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: comes through that. I love love, love, I mean the fact, 801 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: but even that I don't even get the credit for, 802 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: so I appreciate it, but I love fashion. But there's 803 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: just I think I have a I connect with people 804 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: pretty easily and not in like a bullshitty type of way, 805 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: and I kind of I want that to kind of 806 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: start to transcend and come out. I feel like I've 807 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: been in this like little bit of a box my 808 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: entire career, which is now like crazy to say it, 809 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: but it's been like and you could do a talk 810 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: show and it's a terrible, Oh my god, it was. 811 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: I hated it more than anything I've ever done. But 812 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: there could be a way that you could do that 813 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: where it would not be insufferable. That's what I would like, 814 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: That's what I am trying to Yeah, but I could 815 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: see that I think that would work, but that's a grind. 816 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: So you have to find a way that's not torture. 817 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: You have to be honest. It's when I got it. 818 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: I remember getting a talk show and I was out 819 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: in LA and I was with my best friend, and 820 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: I had too much to drink, and I said to her, 821 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: why the hell am I doing? Like because you have, 822 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: But it's one of these things you're supposed to want. 823 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: Someone hands you a diamond, You're like, of course I wanted. 824 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: Of course, why would you want a diamond? You supposed 825 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: to want to and everybody wants to. I didn't want. 826 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't like to be handled. I don't like the 827 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: pit crew on me. I'm a very antisocial person, and 828 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: I don't like to direct traffic and traffic to be 829 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: directed everything that I don't like. It was so you 830 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: have to be so honest with who you really are, 831 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: because it seems so great to do certain things. But 832 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: like if you're honest, as you get older, you keep 833 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: any more and then you just say no to things 834 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: or figure out a way to make it exactly how 835 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: you need it to be. Because because I could see 836 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: you talking, what what does the film schedule? Like? Just 837 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: quickly like were you filming all year or did you 838 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: film for a few months and then go crazy and 839 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: then get to that. I think you are off a 840 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: certain period of time. There's only one season, but they 841 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: had to do two shows a day. But with My Dag, 842 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: you're used to getting up to five and you had 843 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: to wake up and be in there at six forty five. 844 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: It's just it's everything. I don't I don't sleep late. 845 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: I get up at six, but it has to be 846 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 1: on my terms. Someday I may wake up at seven. 847 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: I cannot be corralled. I cannot be forced. I am 848 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: just like a loose horse. So it's not for me. 849 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: It cannot it has to be. This is perfect, This 850 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: has become, this is This has been wildly successful, shocking 851 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: to me, not shocking, but like the amount of success 852 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: that these shows have been, and it's because it's perfect 853 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: for me. Like, yeah, the structure, Um, I love talking 854 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: to you. It was so unbelievable. I have one more thing, 855 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: the Rose and Thorn of your career. Oh my god, 856 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: this is so different. I don't even know how to 857 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: simplify what it is. I mean, the rose is obviously 858 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: feeling successful, feeling purpose, feeling like I can connect to people, 859 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: and then the thorn is maybe not being showcased in 860 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: the most authentic way. It's not coming who you really 861 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: are has not come through on these projects. No yeah, yeah, 862 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: I guess not fully me yet. And I'm just like, 863 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: it's ready to break through that level because it's hoasty, 864 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: it's hosty, it's a little yeah, it's removed, it's you know, 865 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: it's not I get it. It's a little vapid. It's 866 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: just not I'm in there, but not no, no, no, no, 867 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: I get it. It's happened for years. You're amazing good. 868 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm so happy. And I have to tell you. My 869 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: mom love you. She's like I love that Bethan. He's 870 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: so real, not full of shit like these other I'm like, okay, 871 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: so oh yeah, well maybe I'll get to meet her. 872 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: Like I've had so much fun because I get to 873 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: meet people here that I get to know. So now 874 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: I feel like I know you. So yeah, maybe one 875 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: time in LA will get together. I see to meet you. 876 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: I'll see later. God, I keep loving the show. Every 877 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: time I do the show, I do homework. I think 878 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: we like, am I gonna have something to talk about? 879 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know who someone is for the most part, 880 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: Like I know who they are, but I don't really 881 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: know anything about them, And I just the Juicy Center 882 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: is so great, what a great thing. I don't think 883 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 1: that anyone's ever heard half of what Morgan Stewart just said. 884 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: I think she's so interesting. I'm so grateful if the 885 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: show can highlight someone in a way that you would 886 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: never have known that they were meaning, Like Kelly Rippa said, 887 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: this was the best interview she ever did, and I 888 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: know that people got things from her that they've never 889 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: gotten anywhere else. And also she said things that she's 890 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: definitely not told anybody. It's really nice to have these 891 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: honest conversations and get to the depths of who they are. 892 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: And I'm really excited and I'm so excited to do 893 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: this with you. And it's so different from rewives and 894 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: I also sit in this chair and have a completely 895 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: different conversation. So I love it. Thank you so much, 896 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: Rate review and subscribe and let me know what you thought.