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Speaker 3: So I got a couple of examples here of growing

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what I think about it this year,

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Speaker 1: Cooking too. I never cooked anything. I ever did any laundry.

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Speaker 3: And the story I hear from people is, you know,

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Speaker 5: Not really, I mean my mom did the laundry and

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Speaker 1: That's maybe twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's not rocket science. So I don't know. I hear

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Speaker 1: that regularly from people. Then they'll go out in the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they want how to do anything, all right.

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Speaker 4: You know what I wish I had a picture of,

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Speaker 4: speaking of college, is the legendary closet monster where you

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Speaker 4: just wear everything you have and.

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Speaker 2: All of your clothes are dirty down to like one.

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Speaker 4: Sock with a hole in it, and the rest of it,

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Speaker 4: and everything you own is dirty piled up in the closet.

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Speaker 2: The closet monster. We used to call it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not like you go off to you know,

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Speaker 3: whatever you do after you get out of high school,

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Speaker 3: and you're just wearing soiled clothes for years at a time,

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Speaker 3: you don't even.

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Speaker 4: Imagine, and you just crunching on eggshells every day. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure which part of the egg No.

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Speaker 1: I never cooked eggs as a child.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you don't like these smart washing machines,

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Speaker 4: Go old fashioned, Find a nearby creek, put your clothes

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Speaker 4: in there, and just start scrubbing. Well, I guess that's it.