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Speaker 2: There it is. There it is, Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome,

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Speaker 2: My Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 3: The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of

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Speaker 2: Theory and we finally worked to prove that the BPM,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know his face.

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Speaker 3: That is you will learn that first time you go

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem. It's not that I didn't want

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Speaker 3: You're trying to interject stand up comedy into the commerce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna fuck around and bring up

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's true because I have had myself in

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Speaker 1: But also their personalities might not Like we could hang

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Speaker 2: Well, we're glad you've changed your ways. We're glad you're

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's I think gonna evolve as you explain it.

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Speaker 2: But you basically said, my mama told me Quanza is

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Speaker 1: My relationship up with Kwansa has been slight to non

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Speaker 1: There was no place, there was no fertile ground for

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Just like, let me be let me

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Speaker 1: You're inspired, and a lot of people coordinated. We are

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Speaker 1: It's one thing a day, one days like unity. One

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Speaker 1: most of these holidays are for adults. Like Halloween. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like four or five years. I don't think I've ever

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00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: gotten a trick or treater. Houses are close to each other.

438
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: It's it was a neighborhood that's like built for you

439
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: can hit ten houses. Yeah, but like now everybody throws

440
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: they kids in the car and they go out to

441
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: the suburbs because the suburbs can block off like the street,

442
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: and then everybody pops their garages and it's kind of

443
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: like a dick measuring contest between how is like, yeah,

444
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: you're giving out candy, but they got music in their

445
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: wife's got her tits out.

446
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: You know, over here giving out scholarship.

447
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a chance for closeted extroverts to

448
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: act like, oh, I'm just sexy Sherlock Holmes. It's like,

449
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: all right, you know what I'm saying. You just wanted

450
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: to put on some fish nets at being public because

451
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: that's when you are internally. So I feel like Halloween

452
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: parties are big. Halloween last like three four or five days.

453
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: I saw people in November going to Halloween.

454
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: So we were on tour, yeah, and we're in We

455
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: were in Atlanta on Halloween and mostly performing for old

456
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: black ladies who were not participating in.

457
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: Halloween, not having a great time. They were not there

458
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: for it at all. But we then toured.

459
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: We had like four days basically, and went to Austin,

460
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: like three days later. In Austin, three days after Halloween

461
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: was still celebrating. Halloween was still Sixth Street was blocked off.

462
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: Everybody had on a costume, and it was it felt

463
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: very adult in that way and where it had nothing

464
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: to do with children and trick or treating. This was

465
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: grown ups in nasty clothes wearing their shit.

466
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's how I think about it. I do

467
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: think about it as it's Halloween's for phone parties or whatever.

468
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

469
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: You don't think about the kids, not at all, and

470
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: I don't. I do think I used to see more kids.

471
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I used to see more kids. I mean,

472
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: you don't see kids out the house in general anymore,

473
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: but I used to see more. Like even within my neighborhood,

474
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: it's like like yours, like clauses close together set up

475
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: for trick or treating. Hardly anybody had any any kind

476
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 3: of like lawn ornaments, any kind of lights there just

477
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: really wasn't a lot.

478
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: Of It took all that when we were kids. And

479
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 2: I grew up in a suburb of Chicago, but when

480
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: we were kids, it felt like we were terrorizing people's homes,

481
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: where like the doorbell ever stopped ringing, Like if you

482
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: shut your door, you were getting ring ring ring all

483
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: night long. And now even at my house, like and

484
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: I live in a pretty like walkable, very nice, pleasant

485
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: neighbors houses around, and like we get some trick or treaters,

486
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: but they don't bother us, Like if we turn the

487
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: porch light off, it's over. Like everybody's very like aware

488
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: and respectful of the holiday. And so I to circle

489
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: this back to Christmas. If it sounds like I'm understanding

490
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: you correctly, It's less that Christmas is disappearing, but more

491
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: that we value it differently than we did as children.

492
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and only the people that like the kind of

493
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: religious people to go to go to church on Christmas

494
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: Eve or go to church Christmas Day or something like that.

495
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: It really is almost like Thanksgiving. It's a holiday for

496
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: older folks, football and food. That's great for me. I'm

497
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: damn near fifty, but like my son don't care about football.

498
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: Six things so like he's like, I don't eat that much,

499
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: Like Thanksgiving isn't a big deal to him, And there's

500
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: a space for Kwanza and just any other kind of

501
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: like like holidays kind of go up and down, and

502
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: like I feel like there's just going to be adult

503
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: holidays because Halloween, I think it's almost fully adult, but

504
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: just like you need the kids for the for the

505
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: beard of it, but really a lot there's gonna be

506
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: a younger generation that takes like a kind of fringe holiday,

507
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: dust it off and makes it their own.

508
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: I love the idea of the executives at Big Kwanza rubbing.

509
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: They're rubbing their hands together.

510
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: We hear a big Quansa in Detroit.

511
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you tired of Santa Claus dancing in the

512
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: back of your videos? Come on over here to Big Kwanza.

513
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And then we're gonna have to watch

514
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: the commodification of Quansa, which is gonna be the most

515
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: American thing you can do. Is like all these things

516
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: that you think are so underground as we look at

517
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: like Snoop selling us, you know, fire pits outside.

518
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: We got we got some of that Snoop whine on Thanksgiving.

519
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, wine is just like I mean, all these things

520
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: that were underground, now they're gonna be used to market

521
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: to you.

522
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: We were talking about this before you got here, but

523
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: we were talking about how quickly Juneteenth got you served

524
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: as now a just general national holiday that everybody gets

525
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: the day off for nobody. Yet you ain't gotta pray,

526
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: you ain't gotta to go thank your black neighbor, nothing.

527
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: It's just you get the day off and you ain't

528
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: gotta talk about it. And it happened so fast because

529
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: four years ago even I don't think I knew any

530
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: white people who even would.

531
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't even it was It wasn't up for discussion.

532
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: It never came up, no like, and then they found

533
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: about out about that ship, and then white ladies got

534
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: an Instagram filter and it was gone.

535
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: And I don't I mean, I'm not from the South,

536
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: y'all ain't from the South. It wasn't a thing for

537
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: me growing up, not at all, you know what I mean.

538
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: Like even in black households, it's not like everybody celebrated June.

539
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: Team you would get a calendar and it'd be like

540
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Juneteenth was in the same genre as like, you know,

541
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: like there'll be a day that's like Winter Soul System. Yeah,

542
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: is that you know what I'm saying?

543
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah day?

544
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they have to they like that a law

545
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: has been passed. They have to alert you that that's

546
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: a but it wasn't a thing. And then, like you said,

547
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, it's just like you don't celebrate Junie.

548
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: You don't think we should. I don't think most Americans

549
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: even to say, know exactly what it is. No, they

550
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: probably heard it once, but just like you know, people

551
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: are just coming around MLK Day.

552
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's also a fascinating thing because I didn't realize,

553
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: and this is my own ignorance. I didn't realize how

554
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: recently MLK Day was a day. You know what I

555
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: mean that, I don't know how recently it is mokday.

556
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: They were fighting against it during the fucking I think

557
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: bush it, yeah.

558
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Straight, Arizona, Arizona wouldn't like because, uh, what's it called

559
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: the Public Enemy had a song basically about it by

560
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: the time I get ar Yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh

561
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: it was just like people would not they would not

562
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: take the day off just out of like clear defiance

563
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: of just like fuck that dude.

564
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: It like didn't get declared a national holiday until like

565
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: pretty recently.

566
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I guess we are. We're at least of

567
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: the age where it's like, that's right when we would

568
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: have been little kids enough to not know because I

569
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: always recall it, but I always remember it.

570
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: But damn, that's cool blooded yeah man, But to that point,

571
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: Juneteenth is now it seems ubiquitous, ye, with like the

572
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: American holiday experience, and then the same feels like it

573
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: will happen to Kwanza should it get this this ineviten.

574
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: It'll be a clear dividing line between the generations. I think, like,

575
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a younger person thing, and eventually

576
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: they will be older, but for a while it will

577
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: be like twenty four year old students at NYU consciously

578
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: celebrate it and it gets some kind of you know,

579
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: traction on the Internet from it. But like your uncle

580
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: will be like, what now, it.

581
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: Doesn't make sense. I see what you're saying. It's right

582
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: for like, it's the perfect small cause for an internet

583
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: asshole to take up, right, Like that's the perfect thing.

584
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: Everybody's heard of it, but it's still niche enough that

585
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: you you could be interesting by doing it's a perfect

586
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: way to pretend you're interesting.

587
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm saying. It reminds me a little bit.

588
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: I've been watching the Menindez brothers shit, Like, you know,

589
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: they had the show and then they had the documentary

590
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: and they both came out sort of in tandem. But

591
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: part of the reason that the Menendez brothers are now

592
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: getting like this new trial, or at least this new

593
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: assessment of their sentencing, was in part because a bunch

594
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: of TikTok kids started unpacking their story and going like, hey,

595
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: it's fucked up that we didn't address all the sexual

596
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: assault stuff that happened in their family. That like, they

597
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: claimed that they were brutally brutally assaulted by this father

598
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: and the mother to some extent, and that was the

599
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: cause for them needing to kill their parents, and they

600
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: in the trial it gets treated a lot more like

601
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: y'all are just bad boys. You did a bad thing.

602
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: You're going to jail for the rest of your life.

603
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: And that all happened on TikTok. And so the question

604
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: of a person on TikTok being like, we got to

605
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: reassess Kwanza. It feels very in the wheelhouse of some

606
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: TikTok shit.

607
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: I also feel like Christmas is right for a takedown

608
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: just because of blame it on Jeff Bezos. Kids get

609
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: too many packages. They're not as excited about presidents. Yeah,

610
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: think about it. When you were a kid, how many

611
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: packages you got?

612
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: Very rare.

613
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: I got a package I went it was the most.

614
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: It was as exciting as Christmas. My mom's saying, David,

615
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: you got something in the mail that was not it

616
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: was It's the same as Christmas. It was the same exactly.

617
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: You've been thinking about it for weeks when you sent

618
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: away for some of the six to eight weeks. Every

619
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: day at school you'd be like, man, is that is

620
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: that gonna be at home? And then when it is,

621
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: it was trash.

622
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: Whatever it was, it was trash. Nothing damn.

623
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: That's quick, beanie, nothing I could afford.

624
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: In the east Bay magazine, where's that documentary? Netflix?

625
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, east By went through it. They had a high

626
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: high and a low low.

627
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: That was that was. You know, there's always this narrative

628
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: that like women be shopping, but like guys looked at

629
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: that catalog in the exact same way that my grandmother

630
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: would look at a sex with avenue catalog and be like,

631
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that. Look at my grandm would be like,

632
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: look at those Isotona gloves, and we'd be like, look

633
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: at those shorts. You could customize all. We could go

634
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: to the court with the same color shorts. It was

635
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: like the same thing, got all.

636
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: The colors of shocks, every shock.

637
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: The amount of times me and my boys sat in

638
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: a bed feet up just slipping through East Bay talking

639
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: about the shoes we were never gonna have, bro, it's

640
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: the the hours that I wasted.

641
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: I used to look at east By like a real

642
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: magazine where I'd be like, oh, I haven't seen this one.

643
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: It meant the world to me.

644
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: You're planning outfits, planning full East Bay outfit.

645
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: Did you order anything from there?

646
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: Never one time I think I got some Team Jordans once,

647
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: like it talks my dad into getting me some Team

648
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: Jordans out of the again Team Jordans that ain't Jordans.

649
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: That that's the polo club of Yeah, yeah it was.

650
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: It was.

651
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: I should be fair to myself. It was also early

652
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: in the Team Jordan era where we didn't quite understand

653
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: they had they.

654
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: Were relevant for a minute where it was okay they

655
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: had a moment where you didn't quite know that those

656
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: weren't going to be treated like real Jordan's.

657
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: It felt like like twelve and a halfs and you

658
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: were like a school, we got them twelve and a

659
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: half whatever, And now we all know that. Yeah it's

660
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: it's the US Polo Association.

661
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's what it is. That sounds like like

662
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: the minor leagues.

663
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah it was a bad but I got some of those.

664
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: But truly everything else was just a dream that I

665
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 2: was selling myself.

666
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: I would have myself fitted before football season with that.

667
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: That East Bavi came out right before school started. Of

668
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 3: course I had the gloves circle, I had the cleat circle.

669
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 3: Never got any of it, but man, I was ready.

670
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: I ordered two things. I ordered this thing called the

671
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Aci rim. I used to play hoop, and it was

672
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: like a rim that you put on on the inside

673
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: like it was what an own person would ship in.

674
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: And that ship gets your jumper so nice because you

675
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: it has to be not only just a swish, but

676
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: it puts. You had to put arc on it. So

677
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: when you practice a couple of summers with that, bro,

678
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: my my jumper was worked. Bro. It worked.

679
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: You're the first person I've ever heard who bought like

680
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: a basketball tea that was like, Noah, this should worked.

681
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: Did your dream of just having a rebounder like all

682
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: time rebound? No, but just a person I used to

683
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: think of, like this imaginary guy that would just like rebound,

684
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Like how many more shots I could get up? If

685
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: you're doing.

686
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: You was a Lobe child.

687
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, shooting jumpers is the day giveaway.

688
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: Your least told me. The second thing you got was

689
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 3: those pliometric shoes. That's the ones I wanted so bad.

690
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, that's exactly what I'm about to tell you. Yes,

691
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: they were called strength shoes. I used to be able

692
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: to dunk with two hands. I rupture my achilles tendon.

693
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: But it absolutely they absolutely worked.

694
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: Oh that fucks me up. Yes, because I remember, like

695
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: your parents are like this is ridiculous. There's no special

696
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: sneakers you're gonna wear. But like I remember looking at

697
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: and being like, this technology makes sense.

698
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: You're on your tiptop.

699
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: This technology makes sense. It really really worked. I obviously

700
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: my kids one of the best days of my life.

701
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: I've had some good highlights in my life. I threw

702
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: down a dunk at my boy Donnie's house in his driveway.

703
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: I still remember that. That's probably thirty years ago.

704
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: No, but that's this is one of the best days

705
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: of my life hearing about it.

706
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Dude, it was you know who had crazy hops? Is

707
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: Craig Robinson? What he came to our show because he's

708
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: doing the show in deference, so he came on our

709
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: set and I don't know why we were talking about basketball.

710
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: We had the clip ready it was him no comic

711
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: shoes of the hack joke, but it was him two

712
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: hundred pounds ago. But I mean like crazy like threw

713
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: down like uh Darryl Dawkins dunk like what it bruh.

714
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: Craig Robinson was a baller, like you know what.

715
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: I could see that because he's bigger than you think

716
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: he is, right like he's like he's like secretly like

717
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: almost six three six four I think. And then he

718
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: also is like one of them dudes that like had

719
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: a whole life before he got to comedy.

720
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: Another teacher like us.

721
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a teacher. He was a musician. He

722
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 2: did a lot of shit. And I think those kinds

723
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: of guys they always you got one in your pocket

724
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: where you're just like, yeah, I used to play ball, yeah,

725
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: I used to dunk all motherfuckers. I don't do that

726
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: no more. Capefully, those sneakers worked.

727
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm just like they convinced one birthday, dude.

728
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: They looked ridiculous and you looked great. They were like

729
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: snow shoes in the city. They were like it was

730
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: like a wider platform and then the shoe was on top. Right,

731
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: it was like a trophy of a shoe.

732
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: It was like you were walking around like a gi joe,

733
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you're truly just sitting

734
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: on top of fucking g I Joe platform. Yes, and

735
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: that you just kept you on your tiptoes all day.

736
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean you do see women, I don't know as

737
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: much as you used to when it was like almost

738
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: unacceptable for women to be out without wearing high heels.

739
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: But when when you think, and I've talked to a

740
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: lot of my female friends because I just took it

741
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: for granted, like, oh, they throw heels on, they go

742
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: out to party, think about being on your toes, leaving

743
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: the house, going up and downstairs, dancing back on your toes,

744
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: and then you see it like some chicks would have

745
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: like crazy calves. You'm like, gosh, it's like it makes sense,

746
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: it gets your leg game right.

747
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: For Sam show, we we we all put on high

748
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: heels to like tryumph because that was like part of

749
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: a bid of an episode. Whatever. I walked probably ten feet.

750
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: It was like, I don't want I can't do this

751
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: no more.

752
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's just like, man, it's crazy when you

753
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: think about it, like that is something I have thought

754
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: about though, that we are in an era that speaking

755
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: of East Bay, that we would have never thought about

756
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: in terms of sports where women's basketball, pro and college.

757
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: Like I've talked to homies and been like, yo, the

758
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Iowa games going on, hits you back, and they're talking

759
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: about women's college basketball. Think about how crazy that would

760
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: have sounded eight years ago.

761
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: Now, dog I did. I was a practice player at

762
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: UH for our college, our women's college basketball team.

763
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: That's cool.

764
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah it was fun college Michigan. Oh Jesus, yeah one,

765
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: yeah it was. They were the worst team.

766
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: And you must can ball though.

767
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: I was pretty good. Yeah I could play. I could

768
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: play some ball. I can't anymore. But at a time

769
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: in my life I was pretty good at basketball. But

770
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: one of the things that that I realized, even when

771
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: doing it this was two thousand seven that I'm doing it.

772
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: There was nobody I told it to that didn't laugh

773
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: in my face, you know what I mean. Like even

774
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: now when I mention it to like executives and stuff,

775
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: they kind of like chuckle and shit because it's as

776
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: a premise, just seems absurd that a man would bow

777
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: the knee to more talented women than him at a

778
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, at a thing wild lead

779
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: more talented, so much better. I'm giving you props from

780
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: being on the court with them. I just think that.

781
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: It's I forgot what that principle is called. Like, the

782
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: more you learn, the more you realize, the less you know,

783
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: and so you understand how difficult life is. And that's why,

784
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: like a lot of people will look at some amazing

785
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: and be like, oh yeah, all right, yeah basketball, you

786
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: shoot the ball and the hoop, got it. But like

787
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: when you learn basketball, you have to learn how to

788
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: shoot and get your mechanics, then learn how to dribble,

789
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: then learn how to play defense, then learn how to

790
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: play team basketball, and then learn how to play against

791
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: the zone. You just realize that you'll never know all

792
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: the stuff. But if you keep your horizon super low.

793
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: Everything is super easy to you. You're like, it's just

794
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: because you take the simplest. You can't do anything right,

795
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing. Everything hard seems easy because you've

796
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: never tried to do anything.

797
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: It's the thing that drives me the craziest. I only

798
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: watch the NBA. I'm not really tapped in in any

799
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: other sport, but like you'll see it, probably every day

800
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: that an NBA game is playing, some some player's name

801
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: will be trending, and it's just people saying they're fucking trash,

802
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: just like Gay Vincent for the Lakers, unbelievable. Every week

803
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: they're like, fucking gave n He's the worst player in

804
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: the league. He fucking sucks. He is so good at basketball.

805
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: He's the best athlete you would ever come across if

806
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: you met him in person in your entire life, by

807
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: far and away, every every single NBA athlete.

808
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: I've played against d two dudes that I was like,

809
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: I can't believe how much better you are at basketball

810
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: than I am. You know what I mean, your light

811
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: years above what I'm capable of. So like, what are

812
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: we talking about? He's not trash. You're upset with him,

813
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: and you're in a bad way because your parlay ain't

814
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: gonna hit. But like, no way is this a bad

815
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: basketball player. Watch your fucking mouth.

816
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: There's no respect. Watch your mouth, Doug. It's like in

817
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: terms of just like can you put a little speck

818
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: on anybody's name? Like it? Dude. I remember when the

819
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: Calves won the title from Cleveland. It is the only

820
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: time our city's ever seen a title in my lifetime.

821
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that's happened to you.

822
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean dysfunctional organizations. I mean, if you think about it,

823
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: if you look at the team, it's just and I

824
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: was telling my my homie this in a weird way.

825
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: If you think about how like just soccer or football whatever.

826
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: In Europe, if you suck, they demote you to basically

827
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: secret late sys it is. But here NFL, they share

828
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: that tea TV money, so there's no incentive for your

829
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: team to get better. Because the good thing about capitalism

830
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: whatever is it eliminates poorly run companies.

831
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: But here with what team do we talked about that with?

832
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but I do remember the conversation.

833
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: Oh Jerry Jones, right, yeah, yeah, because because it's more

834
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: lucrative than for win than if he's a winner.

835
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: What if what if the Cowboys or the Browns had

836
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: to drop down and play in like the XFL or

837
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: the AFL. If it was the XFL and the Super

838
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: Bowl winner came up and played in the pros like soccer. Yeah,

839
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: like you get, you get, and it would just keep

840
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: your ship. So you're just not like, yo, we got

841
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: an eighty five year old running our team, and your

842
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: team looks like it a good wide receiver. It's like

843
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: the way like a seven year old with draft, like

844
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: I just need a good wide receiver. It's like no,

845
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, but you there, there's no incentive to get

846
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: better because the floor is the same as the ceiling.

847
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're the split. We still see the bread that

848
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: we're gonna see. Everybody's gonna eat.

849
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: And it increases every year.

850
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you just got to keep on. You just

851
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: gotta hold the team as long as you own it.

852
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: You make that money. That's a bad business.

853
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

854
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: Before once again, I'm sorry you guys haven't won. We

855
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: recently won. It was pretty great. Yeah, you're a b No,

856
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: this is because it's Christmas. It didn't come across the bit.

857
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: The bit didn't really work. This is coming out on

858
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: Christmas Eve. Yeah, so I wore Christmas colors. Well, you

859
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: had on the Santa hat and then and then I

860
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: gave it to like because I wanted him to be involved.

861
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: That's all what this is about. Yeah, you you swung

862
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: big on Christmas. I swung huge.

863
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: You said I love the Lord. That's not what I want,

864
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: you know, that's what you said. What I said, that's

865
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: not what I said.

866
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: I think women should work more.

867
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 2: Before we go to break. Do you have you ever

868
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: celebrated kwants in your adult life? No? Not as a child,

869
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: but not even as an adult.

870
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: No, And I don't. Maybe I was thinking, since I

871
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: have this take on my next year, you know, because

872
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: it's too late now to spring it on my kids.

873
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: But I know, I know, it's like, that's my that's

874
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: my I'd be like, I'm ready, Oh, y'all are college?

875
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: All right?

876
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: Then this is gonna be one young child being annihilated

877
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: by a new a new holiday.

878
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: I would be so hard. He knows his brother, he

879
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: knows his siblings at Christmas?

880
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, friends, Yeah, it's like, yo, what did you get

881
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: for unity today? Who moji out of coach?

882
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 2: Coach? It turns out me and my dad held hands

883
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: in the kitchen and said what we're grateful for about

884
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: each other?

885
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: That's that's what it is. But the only time that

886
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: that works hold hands talking about like hey man, we

887
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: live a good life, which I think we should do

888
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: more often, like I have, I've tried to do. But

889
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, comics is like that's a certain time in

890
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: your life that's like post college until you get married,

891
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: where you're trying to figure out who you are and

892
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: there's a there's a space in there where like you

893
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: be open. It's also the same period of time where

894
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: you're open to join in a cult. It's just weird.

895
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the same thing.

896
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean really.

897
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: This is a cult. What do you think there's a

898
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: comedy thing?

899
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I was telling my boy the

900
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: other day with cults, like I wonder if, like cause

901
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: if we only see the people that successfully started them,

902
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: and you know that there's something that it failed, But

903
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: what about the kinds of just like you have a

904
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: cult and you try to like five hundred people and

905
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: you got like four, Bro, there's twenty people? Really?

906
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, shut up? What's the what's nick? Do you know

907
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: the county where the Frozen Dead Lady was my Mother God. Yeah,

908
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: but in that county, there's several other cults that are

909
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: on the same type of thing where it's just like

910
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: ten people who are on this ship.

911
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's the way to go, because like next

912
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: to them got too big and once they started branding

913
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: them that, the government was like, we got to get in.

914
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Mother God documentary?

915
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: I think so. Is that that woman that kind of

916
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: went crazy but like those kids were obsessed with her?

917
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: Which one's the mother got.

918
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: She she starts drinking silver?

919
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw that one. Absolutely.

920
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very that one. That part of it. I

921
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: had to carry her around at the end, she like

922
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: drinks herself to death, but specifically with silver and alcohol.

923
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Right, But you imagine like diagnosing cirrhosis and then also

924
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: having to be like are you drinking liquid silver?

925
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 4: Yes?

926
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes, because I'm God. But that one, I think is

927
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: an example of like there were only like fifteen people,

928
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: but they fucked with her heart.

929
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 3: That's that's all you need. Small batched cults is really

930
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: the way to go. I think that's what the problem

931
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: becomes when they scale it up. Like, but if you're

932
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: able to start a religion and it's just like you

933
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: get eight to ten people, but they'll die for that ship.

934
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: I'll get greedy, you know what I mean? How much

935
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: do you need?

936
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: My wife keeps trying to start a cult. What. Yeah,

937
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't have done this right before a break,

938
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 2: but ah, she's actively keeps being her whole thing. She's

939
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: a lawyer, and she keeps saying that a cult in

940
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: order to start to get religious exemption from taxes, all

941
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: you need, technically is a firmly held belief. You don't

942
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: need a lot of paperwork. There isn't even a lot

943
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: of filing because she does nonprofit tax work and so, like,

944
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: part of what she knows is that like religious exemption

945
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: is very different than like if you have to file

946
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: as a nonprofit that services this and this for the

947
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: community whatever. And so she keeps trying to convince her friends,

948
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: if we buy a compound somewhere and we just establish

949
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: a firmly held belief, we can create religious exemption and

950
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: live off the grid, get out of here.

951
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.

952
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: It is pretty cool. My issue with it, and this

953
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: is what I keep trying to emphasize with her, is

954
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: that this is a.

955
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: Great because I don't imagine you guys have that fight,

956
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: but you're in a.

957
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: It's most of our fights.

958
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: It's like you have to put that hat on to

959
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: be able to speak in front of the groups on

960
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: the Santa Hat. I understand.

961
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: My issue with it is not that it doesn't sound dope.

962
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: It's that historically we've always seen somebody take it too far,

963
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like Wild Wild Country

964
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: was about people putting on maroon and fucking in the woods,

965
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: and everybody loved it, and they were doing great, and

966
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: there were no problems until Sheila took it a step

967
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: too far and she poisoned the water supply. And now

968
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we don't get to fuck in

969
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: the woods no more because things got crazy, do you

970
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, there's always that You'll be sure.

971
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: I got to step in for Sheila, Doug. You think

972
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: Sheila is a hero in the story. I think Sheila

973
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: is maybe, and this is going to sound crazy. I

974
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: put her in the same pantheon that I put Kobe,

975
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: whoa I swear to God and that somebody that's able

976
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: to have determination on the level where it's unhealthy but

977
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: it's necessary to get what you want done done. Kobe

978
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: is going through a rape trial and balling on his

979
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: off dse the death thousand yard deaths there. That's what

980
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: Sheila had. And Sheila was cool until that county around

981
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: her started trying to pull some Shenanigans with the votes

982
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: and trying to get them up out of there, and

983
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: Sheila was like, it ain't going. What did Marlosa and

984
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: the wire? You wanted to be one way, but it's

985
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: the other way. It was the other way.

986
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: And I don't have that in me. I don't know how.

987
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: Many people do. But if you can get Sheila on

988
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: your side, you're in good shape. If she's going against

989
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: you as a problem.

990
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: But that's my issue is that I think it's not

991
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: that you don't want Sheila on your side, and I

992
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: agree with you. It was much more about those white

993
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 2: people making problems for them than it was that Sheila

994
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: created the problems.

995
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: But what you do need with this.

996
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: Firmly help belief is a level of sobriety where you go,

997
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: we don't really believe this shit, and Sheila really fucking believed.

998
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's dangerous.

999
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: And that's that's just you being too good of a

1000
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: cult leader.

1001
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: That's the problem is that, like somebody in there is

1002
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: really gonna be like, I'll die for this shit. Well

1003
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: you need everybody kill you for this. I'll kill you

1004
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: for this shit. And that's scary.

1005
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: But that's what I like about what your wife's idea is.

1006
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: She's like, hey, y'all, we're gonna run a scam. M

1007
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: we all know we're scamming that that I think seems reasonable,

1008
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: but I've been always starts that way. Yeah, I think

1009
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: he pulled me over because I was on you.

1010
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I never thought about the long term because we're imagining

1011
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: this in this abstract way, like we are all kind

1012
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: of these fixed individuals, but we all know that there

1013
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: have been periods of our lives. We got homeboys where

1014
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this is a fun thing. After like

1015
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: he's had twenty seven nights of threesomes with twenty five

1016
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: year olds calling him their lord or whatever. That would change,

1017
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: but the chemicals in his mind.

1018
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: Truly, But that's not what he's talking about, right Because

1019
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: also the way that your wife is describing it, there's

1020
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: no growth.

1021
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know that she can see past that.

1022
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying. I think she's looking

1023
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: at as like I have eleven best friends. If me

1024
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: and my eleven best friends all lived on a compound

1025
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: together and we pretended to have this firmly held belief,

1026
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: we'd be fine. But what she's skipping is that we

1027
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: are raising children, and our children would be raised on

1028
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: this compound with this firmly held belief as a principle

1029
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: that they're living under, which means that they will eventually

1030
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: want to carry that forward. And maybe my kids are

1031
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 2: cool enough that they get that this is a bit,

1032
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: or maybe my son is a weirdo who decides that

1033
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: the firmly held belief means he gets four pussies a night,

1034
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: and if he doesn't get his four pussies a night,

1035
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: he'll chop your feet off. What I'm now is got

1036
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: a problem. But what I'm saying is the eleven of you,

1037
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: or however of the eleven couples on the compound, right,

1038
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: are you actually withhelding to the believer? Is that what

1039
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: you're telling the government? I tell the government all kinds

1040
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: of shit. You know what I'm saying. Are you in

1041
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: that compound practicing a religion? Or is there a set

1042
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: of rules that you're telling the government you reside by it?

1043
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: But you guys are just living, Because if you guys

1044
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: are just living, I don't think it becomes that. I

1045
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: think it becomes just like a cool scam you guys

1046
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: are running. I think I don't think that's the I

1047
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: think that a turn to a religion is a lot

1048
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: more purposeful than that. I think what you're saying sounds

1049
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: to me idealistic more than what we've seen historically in practice.

1050
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: That almost always in practice, somebody takes it too far

1051
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: and then you're WACO.

1052
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: I mean, what is the firmly hell believe? Are you

1053
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: creating a religion or are you hiding from the government

1054
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: saying something, Because to me, it sounds like you're just

1055
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: hiding from the government and feeding this up.

1056
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: And that's part of my problem. She don't have a

1057
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: firmly hell belief yet, So until she can come with

1058
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: a real argument for what our belief is, I'm not

1059
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: buying this until.

1060
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: She has a messiah, she has a guy.

1061
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think again, you do start with a firmly

1062
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: hell belief. It doesn't. Hey, all people are great, We're

1063
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: all gonna wear Santa hats. That's how it starts. But

1064
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: it's not gonna you know, fundamentally, because of the way

1065
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: human beings change over the course of times, months, years.

1066
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: By the end of it, it's going to be somebody.

1067
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: There's going to be because within any faction, you start

1068
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: off unified, not just the walking dead. Initially it's like,

1069
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: but just the concept we are all trying to not

1070
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: get eaten by zombies. We are one unit with that goal.

1071
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: But just like any faction Lord of Flies, once you

1072
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: get together, that faction is gonna split. Some people are like,

1073
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: now let's rate the women, and other people are like,

1074
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: let's get sanitation and running water and like have funerals.

1075
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: Everything is going to split, and you're going to start

1076
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: off like, hey, we all wear Santa hats and we

1077
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: have fun. This is all tax scam. Seven years down

1078
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: the line, there's no way that you are still that

1079
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: is still the model.

1080
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 2: That we're just vibing. No, we're gonna argue about dinner

1081
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: one night, and it's gonna create a faction. And now

1082
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: suddenly your beliefs and my beliefs are slightly askew, and

1083
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 2: a generation later we're murdering each other. Yes, I don't

1084
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: think it's possible nature.

1085
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that talk. I think I think

1086
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 3: I believe in small batch of cults. Who I believe

1087
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: in small batch clotes? Well, I think when you try

1088
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: to start scaling it up and inviting people from the outside,

1089
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: I think you can do it.

1090
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: Well.

1091
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: Let me tell you about a little country called the

1092
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: United States of America. My man, It started with something

1093
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: called the Declaration of Independence, right, uh, and.

1094
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: It ain't going so well. It's not going so well.

1095
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: He won We need to take a break. Yeah, we

1096
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: went so long. Then, all right, we're gonna be back

1097
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: with mara Al Jackson more.

1098
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: My mama told me.

1099
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 2: We are back.

1100
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: Happy Kwanza. What is the quanta reading?

1101
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: Actually it's uh.

1102
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: I think it's Swahili based, so like, I feel very

1103
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: uncomfortable black men from Cleveland Swahi.

1104
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: Many many quanzas to you, brothers, Okay, I like that.

1105
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: Make quantsa be with you.

1106
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 3: The only word I know is jambo.

1107
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

1108
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: It means hello. I had a book when I was

1109
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: a kid called Jombo means hello. Yeah, okay, there that.

1110
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: Guy stayed with me.

1111
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1112
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: How many books do you read? You remember years later?

1113
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: It's impressive.

1114
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: I read a lot of.

1115
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: Books as a kid. I don't read it as many

1116
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: as an adult, but I read a share of books

1117
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: as a kid.

1118
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: Man I had adhd or do, but dude, I got

1119
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: adderall and it changed my life. I started being able

1120
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: to read. I got through college without ever really reading.

1121
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I just had to listen because I couldn't read anything.

1122
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: And then I just went on a tear and I

1123
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: started reading everything.

1124
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't have it anymore. I'm my brain

1125
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 3: as much. But as a kid, I was like, really,

1126
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 3: you feel the starting to go. Yeah, it's tough because

1127
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: I recently realized I ran out of like all the

1128
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 3: knowledge I acquired from reading in my youth.

1129
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: I got to the end.

1130
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Like the porch is over, and

1131
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: now I got to acquire new and the muscle at

1132
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: your feed from Not like I still read, but I

1133
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: read like four or five books in a.

1134
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: Year, you know what I mean. There's a very embarrassing

1135
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: thing when somebody asks you, like, what's your favorite book,

1136
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: and then something from high school pops in your head.

1137
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: Truly, Yeah, fences, Yeah, ELI was out like the things

1138
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: they carried. Yeah, you just have to act like you

1139
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: kept reading. But that books that you're like, look, catching

1140
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: a Riot still really good?

1141
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: Okay, this is fucked up.

1142
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: Though that it is.

1143
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: I do feel that way about that book. He literally

1144
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: he tried to argue with me the other day about

1145
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: how good that book it is.

1146
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: It is amazing, It is amazing.

1147
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: I need to reread it.

1148
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should all reread it.

1149
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: I taught it, and I don't feel that way.

1150
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: I love it, and I've read other sallengers shit to

1151
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: make sure that I love it. But you know what

1152
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: I mean.

1153
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: Okay, great, I'm giving her to reread. He taught English.

1154
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I taught high school English.

1155
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: I taught middle school science man middle school.

1156
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: I hated them. I briefly did like after school programming

1157
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: with middle school kids, and they're truly the greatest nightmare

1158
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: I could imagine. So I couldn't handle it. You got

1159
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 2: to get on them wor I was at a weird

1160
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: time in my life and that I was just as

1161
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: crazy as they were. Like I was partying.

1162
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: I was Miami.

1163
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: I was at twenty seven in Miami, like pre social media,

1164
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: so it was like the nineteen fifties. Yeah, I literally

1165
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: you it'll smoke SIGs in the bar, like Miami's a

1166
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: loose bro. You can like take a scotch and walk

1167
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: outside and like like the glass dog and you know

1168
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like they just don't care it down there.

1169
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: And so I think my kids felt my energy. But

1170
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: now if I try to teach not on there, they.

1171
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: Would writ me apart.

1172
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, like when the old like one of the first,

1173
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: like the original gang member, like goes back to jail

1174
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm an old gen Like shut.

1175
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 6: Up, you just don't have that energy anymore. So like

1176
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 6: hold up, like we hold up, you're trying to tell

1177
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 6: you don't know your history, young man.

1178
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: You see, when we started, it was about breakdance.

1179
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: I'll see you at the club. That's how they used

1180
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: to settle beefs. Think about that. It's just like me

1181
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: and Davids cool, We're gonna settle this on Friday at

1182
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: Club Outlander.

1183
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: It's like, what I think there's any dance move I

1184
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: could do to you that would feel better than hitting

1185
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: somebody in the.

1186
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: No, there was one brave man who figured that out.

1187
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 2: He lost that dance battle, and I'm just gonna beat

1188
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: him up. I'm gonna punch him in the head. I

1189
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: think that's gonna feel that that was ground zero for

1190
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: gang violence.

1191
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: Can we go back to dancing and and graffiti, y'all.

1192
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: It's yeah, that's.

1193
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: Why we know the name Stanley Tuki Williams.

1194
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because his windmill wasn't wind

1195
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: Now everybody's gotta die.

1196
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you.

1197
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: Think about like Juice doesn't seem like that long ago,

1198
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: but when you watch it, when you see the gun

1199
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: that Tupac has, like I would give that to my tech.

1200
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: That gun is like he's got like a thirty eight.

1201
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: He's like, you would look crazy if you pull that out,

1202
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: Like you can get that in the club openly, and

1203
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: like how quickly that elevated to like you gotta be

1204
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: extra strapped up.

1205
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: And even that he only had one gun. The whole movie.

1206
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: It's a community gun. Yeah.

1207
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: The whole movie is just about Tupac got the gun

1208
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: and isn't being nice about it, and then everybody's scared.

1209
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: It's like, I bro, everybody's got guns now, and everybody

1210
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: they're not revolvers, they're they're really.

1211
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: That's how they Juice two got squashed in the uh

1212
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: just the early development, Like Juice is successful, it's to

1213
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: make Juice two where now another guy's got a gun,

1214
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: then it's just a gang. Okay, okay, it only works

1215
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: if one if there's one gun, what if.

1216
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 2: Tyrese Gibson has the gun?

1217
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: Now pretty good, I would watch Juice two starring I.

1218
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: Do believe that they made a Juice to and I

1219
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: do believe that it starred uh. If I'm not mistaken,

1220
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: I think it might have been either Soldier Boy or

1221
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: DC Young Fly.

1222
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 3: Really. Oh, they made a Juice too recently.

1223
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm pretty I think that's a conspiracy. Yes, yeah, Belly

1224
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: two exists.

1225
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 3: Juice, Yeah, it's I kind of it's not great watching

1226
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: the movie start in the game.

1227
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you've discussed this, but uh,

1228
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: I guess what. I guess No, Pop wasn't the first act.

1229
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, ic Tea is in the first couple of Breakings.

1230
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: And here is a weird conspiracy I did have because

1231
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: I was like, remember the Olympics this past year that

1232
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: Australian breakdancer Ray Gun bruined breakdancing. They took it from

1233
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: the Olympics. I'll never forget Breaking two. They put a

1234
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: white girl in there. She was horrible and that was

1235
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: the end of the Breakings because Breaking one it was

1236
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: about New York City breakdance scene. It was it was

1237
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: like the culture, hip hop dancing, the gay scene like

1238
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: an alt scene was really Breaking one. Breaking Two they

1239
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: stucked the rich white girl in there because they needed

1240
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: that narrative, like my father is going to tear down

1241
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: the community center and make a make a strip mall.

1242
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: That was a big thing and like also makes no

1243
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: sense story wise.

1244
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: Talk to me.

1245
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: I watched You with My Girl like six months ago.

1246
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: It is a horrible movie.

1247
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: Is that electric?

1248
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it doesn't make any sense. It's like terribly

1249
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: rat like Breaking One had a plot. Breaking Two it

1250
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: was just like bad.

1251
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: Admittedly, I've never seen either of the Breakings. I don't Oh,

1252
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: what are you a beach street guy? No, I haven't

1253
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: seen that either. There are certain films crush groove, that's

1254
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: your thing, buddy. There are certain generations of films that

1255
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: I know that if I watch it, I'm not gonna

1256
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: like it, and I don't want to disrespect it. Do

1257
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, Roger, just go, I'm

1258
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: too old. The generation has passed. There's nothing they're gonna

1259
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: do that's gonna like wow me, they're good. Out of respect,

1260
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: I'll acknowledge y'all had it, and I'll move on with

1261
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: my life instead of doing that ship where we go? Man,

1262
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: what the fuck was Rev Run talking about?

1263
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1264
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: He was killing it back then. I get it, but

1265
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: not no more. And I'm not trying to do.

1266
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 4: You know what.

1267
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: I still watch it holds up King of New York, Oh,

1268
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: with Frank Whitet.

1269
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1270
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: Really, Christop's dark. Okay have you seen that? Wesley Snipe's

1271
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: his character, but he that's I mean, he was coked

1272
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: out and probably unmedicated. You know, do you ever think

1273
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: about that, Like when you look at our parents, Like

1274
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: everybody that they grew up with was not medicated. Yeah,

1275
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: all the depression, all the alcoholism. Nobody around them was like,

1276
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: hey David, I don't think you should be drinking in

1277
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: the morning. Like, no one ever told noone depressed. I mean,

1278
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy that they made it. It's like really bananas

1279
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: when you think about it.

1280
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: No, they when they call younger generations like weak, I

1281
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: do understand what they're saying. I don't agree with it,

1282
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: but I understand it. It's like you were truly raw

1283
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: dogging the world and you figured out a way to

1284
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: survive this ship, and we're asking for reasonable accommodations and

1285
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: you're like, but I didn't. I didn't have that right, right,

1286
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: And so it's like, no, you comparatively, we we are

1287
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: doing a weaker thing, absolutely, but it also you're tripping

1288
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have done.

1289
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: That, right. There's some low key hating because I'm sure

1290
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: they're looking like, well, do you know what I could

1291
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: have done if it wasn't legal to slap your wife

1292
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: in Texas until nineteen ninety one or whatever, these crazy

1293
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: laws that they grew up with, like women like I

1294
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: don't think people realize like the world that women were

1295
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: living in up until probably like the mid early nineties,

1296
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: where what was going on at work, like your boss

1297
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: would just call it, yeah, what's up, hot chocolate? Like

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Speaker 1: your like or shut the fuck like people were.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy saw on Miami at work with women.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say like in the places I worked, some

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Speaker 1: of them were comedy clubs. So we're gonna make this

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Speaker 1: real vague, but like it would be I can't. It

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Speaker 1: was like Studio fifty four. It's exactly what you think.

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Speaker 2: It would be.

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Speaker 1: There was blow everywhere everywhere, and especially like when you

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Speaker 1: would do the the smaller cities you'd be in like

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Speaker 1: Fort Myers or somewhere just the owner would just you

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Speaker 1: go back there to get paid, get your check, and

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Speaker 1: just blow on the table your check sitting there, waitress

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Speaker 1: sitting on his lap, he's half in the bag, his

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Speaker 1: wife is up front. I mean, it was fuck it,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't it didn't seem weird. It was just

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Speaker 1: like I was offered to be paid in cocaine, their money,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I was a teacher. I was like,

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Speaker 1: give me my I have nothing. I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: But the idea that somebody would even propose that didn't

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Speaker 1: seem crazy. I was like, I'm sure some people would

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Speaker 1: do it. I was like, I hope I get in

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Speaker 1: a position to shake that, you know. Yeah, just dude,

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Speaker 1: it was I will say this. And just to wrap

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Speaker 1: that up, there was one place where when a new

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Speaker 1: waitress would come uh to the club like oh it's

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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, Norah's first night. All the waiters

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Speaker 1: and waitresses would be in the the back area where

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Speaker 1: the bar is and they would have her like walk

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Speaker 1: down like the you know, the gauntlet, and everybody they'd

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01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: be like, look at her ass. They turn her around

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01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: and then everybody, the men and the women, would smack

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01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: her on the ass, holy shit, every new female weight

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01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: staff that's on god like, But it was just like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's a new checkworking. It's just and that's

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Speaker 1: where the me too moved again.

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Speaker 2: Put her on the cover of Time magazine. Yeah you

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean, not Terry Crust's don't give a

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01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: fuck about him getting his dick grabbed that one time.

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Speaker 2: That lady deserves a profile of like a I went

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Speaker 2: through it. There was no payoff on the other end

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Speaker 2: of this. No, I was just a waitress at a

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Speaker 2: comedy club in Miami. None of this, none of the

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Speaker 2: math here works out in my favor right.

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Speaker 1: And that waitress would tell a waitress you know from

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Speaker 1: her mom's generation, they hit me on the ass, and

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: they'd be like, that's all honey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations, Like think about I mean, it sounds like

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: you had a first a good first night.

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your is your manager?

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 4: Gaida?

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: And like women, it's like, yeah, just a what a

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01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: different world. And it wasn't that long ago, you know.

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Speaker 2: Before we wrap this thing up, I guess the question

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Speaker 2: on my mind. You you talked about the possibility that

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: Kwanta could become more powerful. You talked about the possibility

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:29,480
Speaker 2: that Kwanta could be then overtaken by our white counterparts,

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: that it would become sort of a universal holiday. My

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Speaker 2: question for you is do you think ultimately that would

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01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: be a good thing for the growth? Is the growth

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01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: of this holiday worth the squeeze of it becoming national

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Speaker 2: and subsequently slightly white, if not completely.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing that's if you do not cross over

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01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: in a popular culture. Popular culture is not only all cultures,

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Speaker 1: but definitely white culture. You are going to hit you

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: you have a hard ceiling. Think about how many people

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: are famous in the black community and people don't know

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Speaker 1: who they are. You know, there's a lot, there's a

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01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: lot of if you don't cross that level into like

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01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: where a thirteen year old white kids know who you are,

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven year old grad students know who you are.

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Speaker 1: There is just a level to how far that you

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01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: can go within any industry anything. It's just it's a

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01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: numbers game.

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Speaker 2: Nick, you know who Alan pa is? You do? Okay,

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Speaker 2: next one of us?

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01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: It's any one without trying, That's what That's what black

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01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: dudes really feel like. You're trying like that. But yeah,

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: there's there's this past Thanksgiving. Just to keep it pretty recent,

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: I was floored at the number of people that had

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01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: never tasted or heard of sweet potato pie. Never heard

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 1: of it, never heard of it, they heard a pumpkin pie.

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01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: Pumpkin pie is our culture, is like baseline for a

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: holiday pie. Sweet potato pie is baseline, baseline for black

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: that's the ceiling. And when people my girl made it,

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01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: and when people tried it, they're like like they were

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01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: just like, why don't people eat this? It was just

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01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: like some of us, like you came out with Kiwi

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01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: or something. They're like, oh, this is some weird you know.

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01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: It was just like try it, but yeah, it's going

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01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: to be popular. But it's like that's the same thing

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01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: with Kwansa. Is Kwanta gonna morph into pumpkin pies? They're

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01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: going to stay sweet potato pie. And that's the question.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would love for Patty LaBelle to make my

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01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 3: kwantas so I'm not.

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 2: Patty LaBelle does Quanta pies. That'd be pretty cool.

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: Oh I can't imagine.

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 2: How could that be the crossover we've been waiting for. Patty,

1395
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 2: get on the phone, baby girl. We've been calling you.

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01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: You gotta pick up. We got a lot of ideas

1397
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: for you. Patty but more importantly, we want Quanta to

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01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: become very popular. I do worry about it, I guess

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01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 2: is maybe my my concern is that I do think

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01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 2: I think about it a lot in terms of larger

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: black conversations of how many things do we actually want

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: to become as universal as we claim that we do

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 2: that like and it's it's something we see often on

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: the Internet where people get upset when our culture becomes

1405
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: usurped and we feel like we deserve credit for the

1406
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: thing that was a very popular thing with like these

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01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: TikTok dances, where like black kids were creating these choreo, beautiful,

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: choreographed dances, and then a white girl would go and

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01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: do it and become much more popular off of this shit,

1410
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: And a part of me goes, stop showing these motherfuckers

1411
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: that shit, right, just keep it in house.

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: Do you do you think that the nature of kwansa though,

1413
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 3: is a little different than even that of a Juneteenth,

1414
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: where it's like June teenth is like a celebration of

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01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 3: a thing that happened in America, so it's able to

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: be co opted. Where kwans are specifically created to be

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: this like ped African ped africanist, like holiday. I don't

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01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: think that. I so to that, I guess say say

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01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it scales up because I don't think

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01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 3: that they get on board.

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: Well, I think I excuse me, I was just having

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01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: this thought. I think the real, real time example that

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: we have of it is pride. Look how crossover straight

1424
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: white ladies love pride and straight white guys go to

1425
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 1: pride because straight white ladies are a pride And I

1426
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: know for a fact gay men that was like I

1427
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: used to get my ass kicked, my boyfriend got his

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01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: teeth knocked out because we were holding the hands in

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01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two in Green Bay, Wisconsin. And now to

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: see those same dudes at our parade, I'm sure infuriates them,

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01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: but they're probably gay, younger LGBTQ plus folks that are like,

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: but this is what we want it. So it's the

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 1: it's the price of admission, and the price of admission

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01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: to be accepted by the greater United States or that

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: guy's culture, whatever is, you have to give up that

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: this is ours, and you have to watch somebody who

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck about it commodify it and make

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: money off it and act like they thought of And

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: I think.

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01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: That's really the the where I struggle with it is

1441
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 2: the commodifying. I'm fine with it becoming a commodity we

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: all benefit from, but when it starts becoming the type

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01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: of commodity that like, truly only the motherfuckers that didn't

1444
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: invest in it in the first place are the ones

1445
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 2: making the money off of it, it gets scary.

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01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's every look at the weed business, right, But yeah, it's.

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01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: Gonna be Coca Cola has a Kwanza flavor. And yeah,

1448
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 3: it's hard to know where this starts and stops. But

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's an American thing more so

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01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: than it's even a black thing. Is It's like, what's

1451
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 3: what's being offered up in culture that isn't eventually going

1452
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: to be co opted by corporations?

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01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, And that's that's I pray if we

1454
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: can wrap this thing up, I pray that Quantza somehow

1455
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: becomes the miracle holiday. If there is a miracle inside

1456
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: of Quantsa, I think the miracle would be Kwanza some

1457
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: by some miracle being the first holiday that remains at

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01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: its core fully black but also gains the popularity that

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: it deserves in unifying black people.

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 3: Well, lang Stance is the season I believe in this

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 3: Quanta Dave miracle. Hell yeah, Quanta day a week. What

1462
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: do they call the Manura?

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01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: Then the Quanta stick.

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: And yet and when you see it at Target and

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: it's made by Better Homes and Living. Yeah, you know

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: there are no African Americans on that board.

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: When has a game for quantity?

1468
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Target always wants some white kids.

1469
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 3: Stands up.

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01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: I win, I'm the king of us. Good for him

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: because more people know about it. So it's the contant trug.

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, yikes. Al, you want to tell the people

1473
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: where they can find you what cool shit you got

1474
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: going on?

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: You can find me at Al Jackson on I G

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Speaker 1: and uh, you can listen to me on Daytime Talk

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: after Dark where we uh it's my old Daily Blast

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: live show. But we're right here in this here studio.

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: Shout out dude, I d K Studios for holding me down.

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 1: Shout out Nick, shout out Jacob. But yeah, and just

1481
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Speaker 1: check my website at Al Jackson Live for days, but

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Speaker 1: mostly follow me on Instagram.

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