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Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: The World's original podcast. 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, On to the Titanic Exhibit. 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Anything sink in. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 4: Everyone has an opinion on what, you know, if they 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 4: ever changed what the Patriots should have for runout music. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: And the problem is they send me these songs. 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 4: Hey, it's you know, Dweebled with you know this song, 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 4: and I don't know what it is, so I don't 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 4: know if. 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: It's good or not. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: It couldn't be the greatest runout song ever. I just 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 4: have the time to look up all these songs. 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 5: If you're just going to change into something that just 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 5: sounds like crazy train, it's like, well it's already crazy train, so. 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: Let's just take enter the salmon that doesn't sound like 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: crazy train, right, Yeah, I'd go back. 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: I like the what is it? 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 6: What is. 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 5: That the music talent? 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: I do like crazy Train. I always think I've always 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: liked it. 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: David Schuman was such a pussy. 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 7: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: For deals, buy a Toyota Dot. 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: Com all right, welcome the Patriots unfiltered. 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: It is Thursday here at chi Let's Stadium, and uh, 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: we're going to talk about what we saw yesterday at practice. Right, 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: that's the big topic of the day. It's Alex, it's Mike, 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: it's Evan, it's Paul. 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, people know he was. You get a nice haircut there? Yeah? 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 7: Got a service? 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: Are you? 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: I'm getting my football today? 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: Five? Five years high phone? Do you get a football 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: for five? 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think so I thought between the two. 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so what Deuce is talking about. 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: We have annual company service awards, so everybody gathers, they 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: give us food and people five, ten, fifteen, twenty so 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: on getting awards for their service. 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for your service. Twenty five, Yeah, twenty five. 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: You're up today? 45 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah you're twenty seven. 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: Nice. 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it lags behind the little Patriots. 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: Mate, I'm thirty, but I'm not being recognized because I 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: haven't been here thirty four years. 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: Right. 51 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, that's an inside joke. So Deuce is all 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: but it's true. 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 5: Dressed up. 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: Deuce is all dressed up for that. 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 8: You guys coordinated, Yes, tell me my favorite color. 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: It is kind of an odd color that we both 57 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 3: wore in the same day. Good color, like very spring. 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: All right, great, Freddy, So let's let's jump right into it. 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: We had David Simmer. 60 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 8: One of choked on your Pepsi one of. 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: The open OTAs that we had full access to. So 62 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 4: what stood out to you guys yesterday? 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Let's stood out lots of stuff. 64 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I thought it was maybe a little cleaner 65 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 7: as far as Drake may goes with, you know, one 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 7: of the interceptions that with the headline from the first 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 7: one still some issues though fumbled snap wasn't It doesn't 68 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 7: seem like the offense is really crisp yet, not that 69 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 7: I expect it to be. I would say my big 70 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 7: takeaway hearing from Splaine, who man, he's just intense. I 71 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 7: already told I'm going to be a Roberts Blaine crusher already. 72 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: But he's intense. 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 7: Listening to Christian Ellis talk about him, he's wise, he's funny. 74 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 7: So it seems like he's really like middle linebackers, are 75 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 7: they all the same? Like you know, it's it's the 76 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 7: same kind of vibe as you want Bentley kind of have, 77 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 7: where these guys are just used to being in the 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 7: middle used to directing traffic and just liked what I 79 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 7: had to hear from him. 80 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: I think, you know, haven't did a good job. I 81 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: read his write up, saw a lot of the same 82 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: things he did. 83 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 7: But it's kind of fun because Paul and I sat together, 84 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 7: but we didn't really talk to you yet, so we 85 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 7: haven't really regrouped on on our thoughts of all the takeaways. 86 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: But a lot of plays, you know, a lot lots 87 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: of takeaway I think, I don't. 88 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: I like what s Blaine said about you know what 89 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: he tells the line you know you guys can make 90 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: you right. 91 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: I'll make you right. 92 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that too. 93 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: I like that too. That was good. You know. 94 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 7: I think Javon Baker some issues with him as well 95 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 7: as jeem Bell, like not running back to the huddle. 96 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 7: And you can see for Abel really wanting guys to 97 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 7: practice with tempo, and for the most part, you see 98 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 7: that throughout the practice there's really good energy. 99 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: Guys are running from drill to drill. 100 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 7: But when guys, you know, like Javon Baker made a play, 101 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 7: then he kind of paused and flexed a little bit, 102 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 7: and everybody's going back to the huddle and then I 103 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 7: get back to the until we tell you you know, 104 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 7: it's a little bit of what we saw last year 105 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 7: from Baker in that regard. 106 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: And last point I'll just make because I think Kyle 107 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: Wims made me a couple of nice catches yesterday. 108 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 7: Also had a fumble which I think it was after 109 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 7: the whistle though, just kidding, but yeah, so it was. 110 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 7: It was a really lot going on. Good day, good 111 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 7: day not I mean, I don't know that I was. 112 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 7: There's still over some fire where yeah, there wasn't you know. 113 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 7: It's it's not training camp. First a pads come on 114 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 7: kind of practices, they're they're working through stuff. 115 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I thought that I wrote a right up 116 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 5: about my observations this morning. But Robert Spoay and I 117 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: felt like was in the offensive huddle like maybe he's 118 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: one of those guys that has great play recognition, and 119 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 5: I think once you start to see the same looks 120 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 5: from the offense over and over again in practice, it 121 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: was it was like he was two steps ahead of 122 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 5: everybody to the ball, almost to the point where I 123 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: thought maybe he was kind of like knew the plays 124 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: before the play was even run. So maybe the that's good, 125 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 5: I mean He definitely flies to the ball, There's no 126 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: question about that. I think offensively with Drake May, you're 127 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 5: still seeing maybe a little bit of a learning curve 128 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: there with this Josh McDaniels offense, it just doesn't seem 129 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 5: like he's playing fast like it is. The timing of it, 130 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: the rhythm of it. The ball is not coming out 131 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: as quickly as it was before. 132 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: From what you can tell, and obviously we don't know 133 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: the play that they're calling up. Does it look like 134 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: it should does the play? Is the play being designed 135 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: that it should be that rhythmic get it out of them? 136 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 137 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: Like, and at times like yesterday, I thought there were 138 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 5: times where there was maybe some accuracy or just like 139 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: miscommunication things going on as well, which is expected this 140 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: time of year. But one throw that stood out to 141 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 5: me is he had a little incut to Hunter Henry 142 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: that he was early and like sailed it over his head. 143 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 5: And I've seen Drake May make that throw in his sleep. 144 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: Like that's a throw that even last year he made 145 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: regularly to multiple receivers. You know, that backside dig cut 146 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 5: type of thing. So there's still some ways to go 147 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: with that, but it's not like that I don't think 148 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: the light is ever going to come on. It's just 149 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 5: more like what we saw from him beginning of last 150 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 5: year in rookie training camp to maybe halfway through the summer, 151 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 5: it started to really click for him. Hopefully this time 152 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: around it's you know, it starts to click for him 153 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: in July instead of August. But that's sort of where 154 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 5: I feel like we're at it. It feels a little 155 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 5: bit similar to what it did when he first got 156 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: in here last year. 157 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I thought remondros Stevenson looked back out there. 158 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 7: We haven't seen him as father passed away, but I 159 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 7: thought he looked like he's in good shape of a 160 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 7: very brief kind of work at the end when they 161 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 7: were doing walk through stuff. 162 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: I know Bdarda said that too. 163 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 7: It's hard to tell, Like I hate kind of saying 164 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 7: that stuff because you don't really know, but to me, 165 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 7: it kind of stood out that he looked like he 166 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 7: was in pretty good shape. 167 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: And yeah, I always my takeaways from those kinds of 168 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: things are always like the last impression you have of 169 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: the players is the end of a grinding season and 170 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: then you see them in shorts like in May and June, 171 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: and they look quick and fresh and right energetic. You know, 172 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: so I understand what your trepidation is to say, like, 173 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: it looks like it's in better shit. I agreed. I 174 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: thought he looked quick and he was bouncing around a 175 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: little bit. But you just wonder, is that just you know, 176 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: six months or fresh legs, just a running back, right, 177 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: I mean, by the end of that season he is 178 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: torn up. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I would agree with 179 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: both both of you guys. I thought it was a 180 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: little sloppy again offensively, and I have to think that 181 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: that's at least partly hopefully due to just sort of 182 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: the transition with with the new system. 183 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: And how about impressions of coaching out there, like coaches 184 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: that are involved styles, you know. 185 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: Who's who's most vocal that type of thing. 186 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I pumped up Scott Booker. 187 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 7: I didn't really notice him as much yesterday, to be honest, 188 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 7: not a lot of coaches caught my radar yesterday. One 189 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 7: thing I did say to Paul and maybe you can 190 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 7: you can Evan two. Have we seen that before where 191 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 7: they have the first team offense and defense or the 192 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 7: top guys kind him on the right field running drills, 193 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 7: and then the second team or third team of the 194 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 7: rest of the guys and the defense on the left field, 195 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 7: and they're all in. I'm sorry, the wide receiver, the 196 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 7: Todd downing he was coaching up the offense. I just 197 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 7: I don't remember. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I don't remember 198 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 7: ever seeing two units going at once on simultaneously on 199 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 7: the two fields, So I don't know if I'm. 200 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 5: Doing it before I seen that. Yeah, yeah, I like 201 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 5: spliad field. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it a little bit now. 202 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 5: Usually it depends on where all the quarterbacks go. And 203 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 5: I think one of the notable things about the way 204 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: they've been doing it now is that Drake has been 205 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: alone with the starters on one side, and then Dobbs 206 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: and Woolridge are on the other field right, So sometimes 207 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: you'll see the the starter and the backup quarterback together 208 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 5: on one side of the field, mixing in and then 209 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: like the you know. 210 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: Opportunity, opportunity. You've seen that how they ended it yesterday. Yeah, 211 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: with May and Dobbs on on the right side. And 212 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: I've only seen by himself on the one field, and 213 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: I would say that that's what it to me. It's 214 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: Bill used to do that instead of simultaneous. Bill would 215 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: do it after sort of after practice the opportunity kind. 216 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: Well, I've seen that, but I've also seen like, Okay, 217 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 4: we're not supposed to say who's first team, but we've 218 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 4: seen like first team defense against second team offense on 219 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: one side, first team offense with second team. 220 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: Defense on the other side. 221 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: This is different. You're right about that. This is more 222 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: like kind of end of the practice walk through stuff. 223 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 5: Okay, jogging through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think from the 224 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 5: coaching perspective, just watching McDaniels a little bit, he still 225 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 5: has that that Belichick in him of like I'm just 226 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 5: gonna call players from the sideline and I'm not going 227 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: to make corrections. Yeah he does the whistle. Yeah, I'm 228 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: not gonna you know, I'm not gonna step in mid 229 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 5: rep and be like no, this is We're gonna correct 230 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff in the film room, after practice, 231 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 5: in the meeting rooms. There was a point yesterday towards 232 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 5: the end of practice when it was still live that 233 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 5: he was just calling plays like they weren't going off 234 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: as script, they weren't going off cards. He was just 235 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 5: with the headset on Drake May and the huddle relaying 236 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 5: plays like you would on game day, and that was 237 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: always a big build thing, like we're going to practice 238 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 5: like it's a it's a game, even in May. So 239 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 5: I thought that was interesting that they they're kind of 240 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 5: going back to that a little bit, Whereas the West 241 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 5: Coast coaches last year it was rep corrections, rep corrections, 242 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: and it kind of dragged a little bit more, whereas 243 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: this one it's like, let's just sequence plays together and 244 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 5: we'll run eight ten plays in a row, and then 245 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 5: we'll take a step back and do corrections and things 246 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 5: like that. 247 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 7: What about the offensive line, I was just gonna say 248 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 7: that I think there's a big rotation and competition in 249 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 7: left guard. I think that's what's been apparent to me 250 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 7: with the offense through these first couple practices, is that 251 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 7: everybody's in the mix. Some guys are still not healthy, 252 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 7: they're working back, so it's hard to get a true 253 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 7: sense of it. 254 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 3: But overall, I would say that left guard. 255 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 7: Competition is very wide open and everybody's going to get 256 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 7: a chance to compete there. 257 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: Same maybe maybe even center to a little bit. Yeah, 258 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: I think you're going to have a lot of competition 259 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: for those spots. 260 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 261 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot of competition I think 262 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: for like that swing tackle spot too. Yeah, I don't 263 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: think that that's a done deal. And you said that 264 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: there's some guys working through things. I think Mike mentioned 265 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: that before practice yesterday. There's still some guys in various states, 266 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: as Bill used to say, of conditioning and whatnot. And 267 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: I think Morgan Moses has spent a lot of time 268 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: sort of, you know, with the with those guys, you know, 269 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: and at the beginning of practice walk through and then 270 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: when they do something against the defense, sometimes he's in, 271 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: sometimes he hasn't been. There's been a lot of rotation there. 272 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: I don't think we saw Kayden Wallace yesterday. Yeah, so 273 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a big competition to 274 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: that swing tackle spot. 275 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: You know, because the current practice rules I think hurt lineman. 276 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: What do you think about in the next CBA or 277 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: maybe doing an amendment where you can increase the number 278 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: of days that linemen both defense and offense can be 279 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: in pads. You know, So there's still no there's still 280 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: no tackling or anything like that, but at least they're 281 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 4: in pads so they can hit harder and really get 282 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: used to you know, practice game speed. Uh and and 283 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: get the reps in that they really need to be ready. 284 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 3: Like what do you think I'm. 285 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: Talking about, like even training camp increasing the number of 286 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: bad days for linemen. 287 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know. 288 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean I before, I just I'm sick 289 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 7: of hearing teams complain about how they're not prepared for 290 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 7: the season to start, they're not ready for the physicality 291 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 7: of the league. 292 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: And I don't think they're ever going back. 293 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 7: I don't think you're going to ever add more physicality 294 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 7: back to the practices. 295 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: I think the NFLPA would. 296 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: Practice it unless you're actually hitting. 297 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: And I just wonder what the culprit is. Is it 298 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: practice time or is it the college systems that they're 299 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: coming out of. Yeah, And I don't have the answer 300 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: because I'm not smart enough to know. 301 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: But even if the college systems are bad, then I 302 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: need more practice. 303 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: I would say, you know, it can't hurt to have 304 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 5: more practice. No, no, But I think when we watch 305 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: these practices, basically the offensive linemen are like in a 306 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 5: basketball stands, just trying to stay in front of a 307 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: guy and like if a guy you know, not that 308 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 5: there's much contact, but like you're obviously going to give 309 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 5: up ground when you're not in pads and you're not 310 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 5: really able to get your hands into somebody and sink in. 311 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: So a lot of these quarterbacks all three quarters like 312 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 5: they're throwing from muddy pockets because it's easier to push 313 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 5: the pocket, like it's easier to collapse and even. 314 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: One drills, you can't do that without pads. 315 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 8: No, they don't know what it's like limiting that time. 316 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 8: Is it like an nflp Yes, yeah, because I don't know. 317 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 8: To me, like, I feel like it would be a 318 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 8: split issue with players, because one they want to be 319 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 8: safe and not get injured. But on the other hand, 320 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 8: if it's if they're at that much of a disadvantage, 321 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 8: I think some guys would have the mentality like, no, 322 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 8: I want to get out there, I want to I 323 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 8: need I. 324 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: Need the reps. 325 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not like I'm not saying it's 326 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: full tilt, full time for linemen, but at least we 327 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: can have a portion of practice where they're in pads 328 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: and they're really getting the reps, real reps in that 329 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: they need for them and for us to evaluate. So 330 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: the reason like how do we like like Okay, open 331 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: competition for left guard? 332 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: How do I know who's good right now? You can't? 333 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: Well now, no, no, So there's more than they used 334 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: to get. 335 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: No, but I know, but like competition, like, how are 336 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: they competing if they're not in pads and they're playing 337 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: the way practicing the way they play, how do I know? 338 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: I would? 339 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: I would just say the whole thing with pat and 340 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: I get it. You know, everybody, you know it's never 341 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: as good as it used to be, right, they have 342 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: three opportunities and full pads that most every team doesn't 343 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: take any advantage of three preseason games. These guys don't 344 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: play in them. So if this is all about pad 345 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: you know, time in pads in practice, well there's plenty. 346 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: This is sixty minute practice that you just passed up, 347 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: and you have three of them, and they generally don't 348 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: play more than ten snaps combined. Yeah, so I'm a 349 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: little tired of hearing about how they're not ready. It's 350 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: just all these poor got like they have an opportunity 351 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: to be ready, that's true, and the teams choose not to. 352 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: I agree with the team's approach. By the way, I 353 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't play my start as any significant time in the 354 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: preseason either. 355 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's why you have those joint practices. 356 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: But I think it's you're not ready. You're not ready, 357 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: that's on you. 358 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: Isn't It a little different though for Morgan Moses who's 359 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: been in the league for fifteen years. And I don't 360 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 5: need to see Morgan Moses out there really at all, 361 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 5: Like I'll see you week one. But like if you're 362 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 5: a guy that's trying to make the team or trying. 363 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: To generally play in the preseason, right. 364 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: But if you're a rookie that's trying to Will Campbell, 365 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 5: and Will Campbell is trying to figure out the NFL 366 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: and the speed of the NFL and all that kind 367 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: of stuff, Like you know, he's going to be thrown 368 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: into the fire week one. He's gonna start at left 369 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 5: tackle and he might have Max Crosby lined up across 370 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 5: from him week one. 371 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: So if he doesn't play in the preseason, I don't 372 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: want to hear about he didn't have enough practices. 373 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: It wasn't really, Yeah, I just that's the difference. Like 374 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 5: where it hurts, I think is the back end of 375 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: the roster, guys that you never know, like maybe a 376 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 5: Tyres Robinson, would develop into a starting guard with more opportunities, 377 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 5: But there just isn't enough opportunities to go around right now, 378 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: way that the whole thing is set up that he 379 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 5: probably never is going to get that chance. Now. I'm 380 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: not saying that Tyre's Robinson's secretly you know, John Hannah, 381 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: but like maybe he's a better player than he's given 382 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 5: credit for if he had the opportunities and he had 383 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 5: time to develop. 384 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 7: I wonder if there's a way to find some nuance 385 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 7: in it, because it seems like it's black and white, 386 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 7: whether it's a padded practice or a non padded practice. 387 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 7: And like, to your point, Fred, what is the real issue? 388 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 7: Is it defense backs tackling in the open field? Is 389 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 7: that what's or is it offensive lineman and defensive lineman 390 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 7: not used to the physicality that happens in the trenches. 391 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 7: Is there a way maybe to your point and kind 392 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 7: of what Alex is saying is to target specific practices 393 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 7: where okay, you know, like it's okay to tackle this one. 394 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 7: It's not a full contact practice, We're not, but today 395 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 7: where there's gonna be two periods where you're allowed to 396 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 7: do trench work or something like that. And I also say, 397 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 7: to Alex's point, is there a way to find some 398 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 7: kind of evidence to tell the players why it might 399 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 7: be beneficial, whether it's injury or just performance. 400 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 8: I mean, every year, oh linman, lineman in general just 401 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 8: drop like flies. So has it made a tangible difference? 402 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: Right? 403 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 8: You know, like is it hurting them? Is it helping them? 404 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 8: I don't know if you'll ever be able to actually well. 405 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 4: They talk about, you know, I'm in shape, but I'm 406 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 4: not in football shape, And to me that means getting hit, 407 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: you know, getting the body hardened, you know, from hitting. 408 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: Now I get it. 409 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: OTAs you're gonna have these, you're gonna have mini camp, 410 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 4: then they're gonna be a break. So there's no sense 411 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: in getting into football shop shape now because of the break. 412 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: But I think once training camp starts, that's my goal 413 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 4: is to get into football shape. 414 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 8: And that's not to say that the player safety changes 415 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 8: aren't important, like I personally think many of those are. 416 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 8: It's the right line of thinking. But I wonder if, 417 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 8: like the NFLPA took all those guys and just pose 418 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 8: another vote, now that they've seen kind of both sides 419 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 8: of it, how it would fall. 420 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 5: Well, I think the issue is is. You know, I 421 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: brought up Morgan Moses and I'm not saying him specifically 422 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: had this opinion. But the veterans are going to feel 423 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: differently about this than the young players. And most of 424 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 5: the time, the people that are in charge at the NFLPA, 425 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: the players that are representing the players, are veteran guys. 426 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 5: So those veteran players want nothing to do with training 427 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: camp like, they don't want to. 428 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: They hate it, and Ian Campbell's probably saying, yeah, let's 429 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: go coming right out of LSU, right, this is what 430 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: we do with LSU. I want to continue to do it. So, 431 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: but you're right, they veterans are the ones with the 432 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: louder voices of them. 433 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: Right. So if they're the voices and they're the ones 434 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 5: that are lobbying for certain things, they're gonna lobby for 435 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 5: less contact and practice because they don't want to get hit, right. 436 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: But the younger players are the guys that are fringe 437 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: roster players that are competing for roster spots, Like, those 438 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: guys want to participate, They want to they want to 439 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 5: give it their all and have the. 440 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: Opportunity to tell the young guys this is how we're voting. 441 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: This is what you're you vote no on too. 442 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, yeah, And you know, I it's you know, 443 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: and then you get to the owners and how they're 444 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 4: part of all these negotiations, and you know, I think 445 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 4: their their feeling is listen, you want to practice lest 446 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: we don't care as long as it doesn't. 447 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: Affect the bottom line. 448 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 4: But I think it's shortsighted because the quality of the 449 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: game eventually will affect the bottom line. So I do 450 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: worry about that long term. 451 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 5: You know, there's like three teams that think they have 452 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: a good offensive line. It's like the Eagles, the Lions, 453 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: and and maybe that's it. Everybody else thinks that their 454 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 5: offensive line stinks or has holes on the offensive line, 455 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: and then they look around and they're like, well, you're 456 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 5: not developing any offensive linemen like that. That's what it is. 457 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: Like. 458 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's necessarily just about contact. It's 459 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 5: also about technique, Like playing offensive line is such a 460 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: major technique position and it's not a natural technique, like 461 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 5: throwing a football and catching a football is a natural 462 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 5: human like movement. Blocking in the past set is not 463 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: a natural like you have to learn. 464 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: That passing camp. Maybe you should have line camp you know. 465 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 8: I or like special rules for Ricky mini camps where 466 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 8: they can get acclimated like that. 467 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 5: I don't know, it just it's it's unique, you know. 468 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: So maybe some type of exception for the lineman to 469 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: do a little bit more contact along the way. 470 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 5: I would have them play in the spring leagues. Like 471 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 5: not not Will Campbell, but like if you're like the UFL, Yeah, 472 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 5: if you were a lineman that was the fifty third 473 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: guy or as a practice squad guy last year, would 474 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 5: allow maybe you have some sort of you know, agreement 475 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 5: waiver or something like that in case of injury, but 476 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 5: I allow allow those players to go get live in 477 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: game developmental reps in in the spring league and allow 478 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 5: them to go it that way. We talk about this 479 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 5: on Catch twenty two all the time. We feel like 480 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: this is like something that could really benefit both sides. 481 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: And then like Siko's like Bart and I would like 482 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 5: watch you know, the practice squad Patriot Tigers development for 483 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: the Utah breakdowns of like you know, this guy's on 484 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: like the BattleHawks or whatever, and like you know, Efton 485 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: Chisholm's catching like ten passes a game for whatever team. 486 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: I just there'd be interest from that angle, but also 487 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 5: I think it would help in the long run with development. 488 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: Does sports have the UFL like inside and out? 489 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 5: Is he? 490 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: I mean, is he He's. 491 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 8: All over the tea? 492 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. Yesterday we were talking about this exact thing 493 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 5: in terms of letting the players go in and I 494 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: asked him. I was like, how many teams are in 495 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 5: the UFL? Eight? Yeah, I couldn't even. He was like, 496 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 5: but I think they might be ten next year and 497 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 5: I was like ten. He knows the scuttle how many 498 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 5: players And apparently like Dwayne the Rock Johnson is like 499 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: the owner right now, like he's the money behind it. 500 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 5: And yeah, it's all news too. 501 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: I know Barth likes golf, so is this eating into 502 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: his spring golf time? 503 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: Like it was? 504 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: He like, oh, great, spring football. I have something to 505 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: do on Saturdays. 506 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 9: Now. 507 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: I don't know myself watching a series or two of 508 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: every game when they're on, just like clicking around. I 509 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: don't stick with it. It's not great. And the fact 510 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: that there's absolutely nobody there it takes away till you 511 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 512 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: I can't help about the attendance, but in all serious watch. 513 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: A game there's no one there watching else. 514 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: I felt that way in twenty twenty. I'd rather watch 515 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 4: collegiate softball. 516 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: Than spring collegiate unbeliever. 517 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, but in all seriousness, people like me and people 518 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: like Bartha you know real siccos if you put Patriots 519 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: players that are on the Patriots ninety man roster into 520 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 5: the spring league and it was like a pipeline to 521 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 5: the NFL, we'd have we'd probably right up about it. 522 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't. I would have. I wouldn't watch it 523 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: anymore than I do. But I like your you know, 524 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: because I think there's a lot of guys. There's a 525 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: lot of NFL names. If you click it on and listen, 526 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: you're going to hear two or three names that you 527 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: know in the NFL. Maybe you like Keem Butler, Remember 528 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: Keen Butler from Iowa. 529 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's not on a ninety man rock. 530 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: I'm just saying there are NFL names. They don't make 531 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 3: me want to watch anymore. 532 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: Like C J. 533 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: Marrabel, Yeah, I didn't like. 534 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 5: I wasn't necessarily. 535 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: So Tyree Robinson again, you know, all drew respect to 536 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: Tyreus Robinson. His presence on the Birmingham Stallions isn't going 537 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: to make me watch that game anymore than you. 538 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: Know, I'd be looking for the All twenty two. 539 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 4: But you know, next year, it would be next year, 540 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: if if, if they if the players, if it was 541 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: the player's option, and Kyle Williams wanted to play spring 542 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: ball next year, would you watch me? 543 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: No, I mean I would watch like I do now. 544 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: You know in passing, Oh, I would be men the 545 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: mini Patriots and you had like an HL that's different, 546 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 3: like a spring that would be different. I'd be more 547 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 3: wrapped because that's but that's my job. But that would 548 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: be tough to do. I think there's not I think 549 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: that really what we're talking about. You know, I brought 550 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: up like Chisholm, like right, we were talking about guys 551 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: that are like the sixth or seventh receiver on a 552 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: ninety man roster that maybe having some live game reps 553 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: against other you know, pseudo pros. 554 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 5: It's kind of like the Senior Bowl. I absolutely love 555 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 5: have that opportunity. 556 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, me and Matis did one of these questions on 557 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 8: p U extras and you actually kind of changed my mind. 558 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: Wow, We've kicked around this idea for years. 559 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: Because as a minor league. Yeah, I absolutely love that idea. 560 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 3: I just I mean in terms of general I mean, 561 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: if there was a Patriots centric team, you know, so 562 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: there's thirty you know, I want to be Patriots on it. 563 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: Now. 564 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm watching that because that's part. 565 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: Of my job. 566 00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: Like the age. 567 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 8: It's like you you. 568 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: Said, the college I'd rather watch college softball in the 569 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: preseason games too. 570 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 2: We have that, listen, you know. 571 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: To take that idea to the next level, if every 572 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: NFL team had a farm team and you played those games, 573 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: you know it's a shortened schedule, eight games or whatever, 574 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: and you played those games in their facility, I think 575 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: people would. 576 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: Come out and watch that. 577 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: They'd be more, they'd be more. 578 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: I think it'd be tough to do to have all 579 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 5: thirty two teams have a farm team just because of 580 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: sheared numbers, like when they have enough players to field teams. 581 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 5: But I think that you could probably do something where, 582 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: you know, maybe half a dozen. 583 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: Players had a team. 584 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, now we're talking. Yeah. And the other thing 585 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 5: that we threw around was, you know, putting them in 586 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 5: schemes that they're going to be running. 587 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: That's why you right, But. 588 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 5: Like let's say instead of the AFC East team, like 589 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 5: let's say one of them is one team is running 590 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 5: like the Shanahan West Coast and one of them is 591 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: running the McDaniel ZP system and the others running the 592 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 5: Andy Reid West Coast, and then those teams can send 593 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 5: their players to those specific teams. So like the Miami 594 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 5: Dolphins could say we're gonna we're going. 595 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 8: To sending your guy to a train. 596 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Evans Evans playing could work. I 597 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: think if you gave it, you know that there's some 598 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: things that you'd have to iron out. But what if 599 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: you have what did you say, a dozen or so? Yeah, 600 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: so let's just let's just say it's ten to fifteen 601 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: players from every team, and then you fill it in 602 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: with the rest of the players that are playing now 603 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: right exactly right right. 604 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: Not every team has to be on a. 605 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 3: Right right, So you're not going to fill it with 606 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: you know, thirty five or forty guys, because you know, 607 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: ninety man roster, there's not that many guys that are 608 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: fighting for an NFL job. But you take a dozen 609 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 3: or so guys that you know would be benefiting from that, 610 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: and then you put them in with all the guys 611 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: that are playing now right. Yeah, you could have a 612 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: league and they would be more interested in that league 613 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: than there is now. 614 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 4: I also want to talk about a story that you posted, 615 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 4: I think it was yesterday on Ted Harper. Our nutrition 616 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: is really good stuff. 617 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 8: You thank you. 618 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: Ted's been a guy who's been with the team. 619 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: For like twenty years now, fourteen fourteen, and always you know, 620 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: what's that? 621 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: What's that? 622 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: He said? 623 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 5: Thanks for reading. 624 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: I just I'm just going off. You know, I did 625 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: actually read it. But we don't hear a lot from him. 626 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: I know we didn't do your Job video of him 627 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 4: years ago that did very well on YouTube, but in 628 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 4: terms of the anecdotes that he shared with you, I'd 629 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: never heard of that sty either. 630 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 8: And honestly, my first week here on the job, I 631 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 8: pitched a story with Ted at that point because it 632 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 8: was his tenth season and I just wanted to hear 633 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 8: about kind of how the evolution of like player mentality 634 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 8: around nutrition had changed, because I mean, back in the day, 635 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 8: everyone looked at Tom Brady and his avocado ice cream 636 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 8: like he was a Martian, right, But now I think 637 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 8: it's more in vogue to be thinking about that stuff. 638 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 8: So I had always wanted to just kind of talk 639 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 8: to him about that stuff, and Ted and I spoke 640 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 8: for almost two hours just on the phone in the 641 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 8: initial call, and then that's not even including like the 642 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 8: back and forth we had on email, like almost for 643 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 8: a full week following that. But some really cool stories 644 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 8: I had never heard, Like I didn't I think, like 645 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 8: I had heard that High Tower had food poisoning before 646 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl against the Rams, but it was kind 647 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 8: of like a small thing after the fact, but like 648 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 8: he had full blown food poisoning, like a few days 649 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 8: before Super Bowl fifty three, and him and Ted were 650 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 8: just tied at the hip, like monitoring every calorie, all 651 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 8: the hydration that went into him, and you would have 652 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 8: never known watching that game. Really cool stuff about Patrick Chung. 653 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 8: How Chung was like so versatile for the defenses, and 654 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 8: part of it was because he was working with Ted 655 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 8: any given week to either drop to match up with 656 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 8: like a fast, agile like receiver like tight end, or 657 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 8: if he was playing in the box, he would bulk 658 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 8: up a little bit to take on like those blocking 659 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 8: tight end matchups. And there's just so much cool side. 660 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting the whole thing with Brady. 661 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: When Brady decided himself, okay, I'm gonna start worrying about. 662 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 8: My nutrition more. 663 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: You know. 664 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 4: Before TV twelve, he went to Ted and sort of 665 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: felt him out, and Ted said that he kind of 666 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 4: felt like he was being tested. 667 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: Like yeah, do I trust this guy? 668 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, because after Brady got hurt, that's when he started 669 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 8: taking that stuff seriously. And then Ted comes in maybe 670 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 8: three seasons after, so you're right, like he was like 671 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 8: almost testing him, like asking questions one because I think 672 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 8: Tom was genuinely really curious, but also like is this 673 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 8: guy legit? 674 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: Does he know? 675 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 8: And like he's so legit? I had no clue that 676 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 8: he used to work with Special Operations Forces, right he was. 677 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: That's the one factor what I knew. 678 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, like the one dietitian for the US Army special 679 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 8: ops like bad as a mother efforts, you know, like 680 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 8: just and then that was a job he kind of 681 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 8: stumbled to didn't know if you wanted to get into 682 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 8: sports or not, but was really happy doing what he 683 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 8: was doing. And then just went to a conference and 684 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 8: Bear's Nigerian happened to be there once and they were like, hey, 685 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 8: we'd love for you to interview, and he said turned 686 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 8: them down because he thought it would be disrespectful to 687 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 8: the Army and the guys he was working with, and 688 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 8: I think they the Patriots tried to get him every 689 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 8: single day of that conference to interview, and then he 690 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 8: finally did and got the job. 691 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: And he just won an award. 692 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 8: Yes, the Association for Professional I'm going to mess up 693 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 8: the acronym. It's the Association for Professional Sports Dieticians for 694 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 8: both pro sports tactical athletes college sports. They have big 695 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 8: conferences every year. So he won the Excellence Award, which 696 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 8: is I think like one of the five there's five 697 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 8: awards they give out, but that's definitely the top one. 698 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 8: And it was kind of cool because it was a 699 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 8: full circus, full circle moment because his first time attending 700 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 8: that conference in twenty twelve was where he met Beers, 701 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 8: So then now he was back winning that award. 702 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: Good stuff. 703 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I highly recommend that article on Patriot dot com. 704 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 7: Did any of his food philosophies conflict with like some 705 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 7: kind of notion, I know, you have a lot of like, oh, 706 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 7: we're geeking out. 707 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 8: I think yeah he was. I think he There was 708 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 8: one question I asked him about just kind of like 709 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 8: the technology they're using. This is stuff that's like super technical, 710 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 8: so it didn't make it into the article. But I 711 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 8: was just asking him about like dexter scans and what 712 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 8: technology they use, and like c cgm's continuous glucose monitors 713 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 8: and I brought up CGMS. She was like, oh wow, 714 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 8: I'm surprised you know what that is. And I was like, 715 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 8: you know, there you go. 716 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say you need an assistant. 717 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 718 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 8: I was like, Ted, I could talk to you all 719 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 8: day and he was like, well, you know, I'm right 720 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 8: down the hall from you. And I was like, yeah, 721 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 8: don't open that invite to because. 722 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: They don't understand that. Up until this year. 723 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 8: Well that's what we were not talking about. We were 724 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 8: not allowed to. I've been wanting to talk to you 725 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 8: for four years now, and. 726 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 7: Uh, you could do okay, but I feel like he'd 727 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 7: be like, what are we having for lunch today? 728 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 8: Italian I was like joking with the idea. I don't 729 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 8: I forget who I was talking to, but it would 730 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 8: be funny to have him come in and like get 731 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 8: us all on a or judge because the first the 732 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 8: first assignment Bill gave him Day one of the job 733 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 8: was go up to Vince Wilfork judge his plate and 734 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 8: tell him what's wrong with it, and like that was 735 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 8: literally I don't even know if he signed the paperwork yet, 736 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 8: and he had to go meet with will Fork and 737 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 8: like that's kind of an intimidating thing, right, get out 738 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 8: of my face, Right, it's ris At first, I think 739 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 8: Vince was like, well, that's what I told him. I 740 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 8: was like, it's so funny that it's Vince because in 741 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 8: my hometown he did a sponsorship with Big Y, So 742 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 8: growing up there was always a big billboard of Vince 743 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 8: will Fork on a Big Y like ad with the 744 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 8: Superbird or whatever. It was like fried chicken. So that's 745 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 8: what I kept thinking about. But at first will Fork 746 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 8: was like, who the f is this dude? But then 747 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 8: they find out, like, okay, they're asking him questions. He's 748 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 8: super knowledgeable. And not only that, but like he's coming 749 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 8: from working with some of the baddest people on the planet, 750 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 8: you know, like absolute warrior soldiers. So they respected them, 751 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 8: and then Vince ended up being one of his favorite 752 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 8: guys and they had a great relationship together. 753 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 5: And would. 754 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I think there's ever been a vegetable here unless 755 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: it was on a meatball. 756 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: Siam. 757 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: Wow, that's. 758 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 5: Deep cut yeah, him judging our dietary choices, I think 759 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 5: would be well, Paul would do great for a while. 760 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: There not anymore, back off the wagon. I'm off that 761 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: it was. It was good. Awaken one Eddy worked for me, 762 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: It absolutely worked for him. 763 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, has you have to buy a whole new wardrobe. 764 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know we haven't really seen you in the 765 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 8: short sleeps. 766 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: Yet, but I said, what are you wearing? 767 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 8: I said, you wear medium large, but it's still hanging 768 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 8: swimming in it. 769 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah I used to. 770 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 3: I mean I went from excel to to regular large. 771 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 8: Well, you could tell you lost in your sweatshirts and 772 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 8: like your quartersip half zips. Excuse me that you're aware, 773 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 8: but I saw it. But the T shirts, it's different. 774 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 8: You really get the full. 775 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 5: From you from one of the preseason games that Pat 776 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 5: McAfee shared a make sure of you remember that. Yeah, 777 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 5: and and like you look like a different person, Like 778 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 5: he really doesn't like we see you all the time, 779 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 5: so it's like, yeah, you have to. 780 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: See the same. No, that would have been you. You 781 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: could have given him your ted, your your care dentials, 782 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: because remember when you set me straight on my dietary things. 783 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 3: When you're like that's not right. This is not right. 784 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 10: Yeah. 785 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 8: I had a lot of critiques of it, waging one. 786 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: I think Ted would feel like, say, if if we 787 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: get you the hair, you'll be like in your forties. 788 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 8: Again, listen, if you change your mind, Ted is open 789 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 8: like that. Ted is open to more content. He told 790 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 8: me that to do your job video in particular, he 791 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 8: was really hesitant to do that at first and didn't 792 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 8: want to. 793 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: And then so that's what I would say to Ted, like, 794 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: we've tried to do a lot of different things over 795 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: the years, and he individually now that may have been 796 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 3: due to pressure from Bill Bears. 797 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 8: And I think he's just the behind the scenes guy too. 798 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 8: Didn't want the spotlight, not want to be in the 799 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 8: spot But he told me that. 800 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: Can you blame him on that regime, That's what I said. 801 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 3: I don't know if that was from pressure from Bill 802 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: and maybe he feels a little bit more comfortable. 803 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 8: Well, he told me that Ultimately he's really glad he 804 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 8: did it because constantly, like whether he's speaking at a 805 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 8: class at Purdue or at another university, and then even 806 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 8: at that conference where he won the award, countless young 807 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 8: r d's and students go up to him and say, 808 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 8: I saw the video of the Patriots did on you 809 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 8: and it made me want to be a sports nutritionist. 810 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 8: So he said it was like a blessing that he 811 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 8: did decide. 812 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: To do it. 813 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: That I said, that's contents changed exactly. 814 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 4: It really is exactly butterfly effect mission accomplished. 815 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 8: That one, and that do your Job video still does 816 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 8: numbers like what six? How how long would you guys 817 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 8: do that? 818 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 7: It's always like the tops the top, one of the 819 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 7: played ones in Germany. 820 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been doing we've been doing. 821 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: This stuff good. So that's good, good stuff. 822 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: I did have the Schitz. 823 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: And I think I think, you know, I think Rabel 824 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: it's it's pretty apparent to me that he's he's very 825 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: open and eager to let these guys have their moment 826 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: in the sun. 827 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 8: Stuff we've been doing with equipment guys. Yeah, like that's 828 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 8: probably my next story. Pitch is like to talk to 829 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 8: Devin and because you every sailor, every TikTok sailor does 830 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 8: with Devin, the comments are just how do I get 831 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 8: this job? You know, like all those little behind the 832 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 8: scenes people that you don't even there's so many jobs 833 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 8: in sports people don't even realize, you know, beyond just 834 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 8: the front facing ones. 835 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, those equipment guys, man, I mean that is 836 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 5: a hard job. It is like we see them on 837 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 5: the road and they they're at the stadium the night 838 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 5: before the game untill like ten to eleven o'clock. Then 839 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 5: they're six am the next morning to like get the 840 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 5: locker room ready and get everything done. Like they like 841 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 5: don't sleep like during the season. 842 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 4: And you talk about a job that where you're totally 843 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 4: there for someone else. Yeah, like you have to know 844 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: the needs of every player. Like this guy likes this 845 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: type of socks. This guy likes to wear, Yeah these 846 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 4: you know this cleve, he likes this face mask for 847 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 4: his helmet. 848 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 8: They get rookies and free agents and they already know 849 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 8: what helmet they wore, what the specifications of their cleats were, 850 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 8: like coming in. It's just ready for them, like, oh, 851 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 8: we talked what we got you. 852 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 5: This isn't like basketball or more than fifty three where 853 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 5: there's like fifteen guys on the team. We're talking about 854 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 5: them outfitting like sixty five seventy guys, you know, including 855 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 5: the practice squad. Like that's it's a lot of people. 856 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: It's a lot of work. 857 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of work. 858 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 2: Do they do the laundry to the equipment they do? 859 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: They do, I mean that alone, not the. 860 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 8: Main guys, but the little their minions do. But not 861 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 8: to call those guys because they're great. 862 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean that that alone is a 863 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: full time job. 864 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 5: I know. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy, just like a 865 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 5: tide pods. 866 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: How many tide pods do they go through each year? 867 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: I'd like to know that there's a. 868 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 3: Lot of plastic in those tide pods. Fred, they have 869 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 3: the giant dispenser's attached to the machines. They're not throwing 870 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: tie pots. 871 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: Oh no, speed queens. 872 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 5: I was. 873 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 3: I was actually a clubby for the well. 874 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 8: I hope they have speed speed because that's not heavy 875 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 8: duty cleaning. 876 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, we should find out. 877 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: Okay eight five to five past five hundred is the 878 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: hotline podcasts at patriots dot com. Is the email address 879 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 4: if you want to subscribe to our newsletter. Uh, it's 880 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 4: patriots dot com slash pu newsletter. We've got one coming 881 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 4: out tomorrow that you're getting ready, Alex. 882 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: So you've been busy really excited for that one, are you? Yeah? 883 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 3: I think my War of sounds really going to resonate 884 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: with the fans. 885 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: Okay, personal world. 886 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 4: Going back to yesterday's practice, Kylon Pembroke writes in Big 887 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 4: Story on Paul's shows yesterday and Today, is that Dobbs 888 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 4: had a better day than May. Really, the veteran quarterback 889 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 4: who has been doing this for a while is quicker 890 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 4: and learning a new offense. You don't say to me 891 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 4: this is such a non issue, shaking my head. 892 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 2: What do you all think? Did he in fact have 893 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: a better day? 894 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 3: It's a rare thing that I that I don't agree 895 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: with either side, Yeah, right, Like I don't think there's 896 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: any reason that Joshua Dobbs should be further along in 897 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: this offense than Drake May. I don't think because he's 898 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 3: been in the league for a few years. He hasn't 899 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 3: been in this offense for a few years, so I 900 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 3: don't I think they started at the same level. But 901 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: I also don't necessarily think. I mean, I thought Dobbs 902 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 3: made some good throws, standout throw, So I guess if 903 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 3: you technically wanted to say he looked better, I think 904 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: you could probably. It's one of those semantic things, like 905 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: you could probably say that that's true, But I think 906 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 3: I think the offense looks. 907 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: Sloppy right now. 908 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: I don't think it looked all that much better with 909 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 3: Dobbs than it did with May. 910 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: Now. 911 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 3: I do think there was some hesitation, and I extrapolate 912 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 3: that from being mental on Drake's part. I know people 913 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: don't want to hear the hitch thing and they get 914 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 3: tired of this. But I do think it looks like 915 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 3: he's thinking a lot as he's going through his stuff, 916 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 3: and I think Evan illustrated that at the top with 917 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 3: his observations about the throw is not necessarily looking like 918 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 3: they were on time, and with Dobbs it probably did 919 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 3: look a little bit better. Yeah, I just incrementally. 920 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 5: I think, like saying who had the better day in 921 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 5: May is just crazy, like based off of what And 922 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 5: you know, Dobbs probably had the best throw to Kyle 923 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 5: Williams down the sideline on the go route, But like 924 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 5: Kyle Williams also beat his guy and got open and 925 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 5: gave him a chance to make the throw. So if 926 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 5: Drak's that. 927 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: Catch though, yeah, it may have a chance to throw 928 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 2: to Williams. 929 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 5: A couple but he's definitely was more with Dobbs. But 930 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 5: like if Kyle Williams had ran that exact route in 931 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 5: that exact matchup and and got by the behind the 932 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 5: defense in the exact same way, then Drake may probably 933 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 5: would have put the ball on him too. Like it 934 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 5: was I throw an NFL quarterback as should be able 935 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 5: to make. 936 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 7: The route reminded me of the Combine when they do 937 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 7: that drill where they're you know, you got to stay back, yeah, 938 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 7: at the ball coming, and Kyle Willams just did a 939 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 7: great job adjusting, so he's he's around. I mean, I 940 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 7: just like seeing guys that that show up. It's unfortunately 941 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 7: like Polk was last year, where you know he's making 942 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 7: some catches. 943 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 3: Actually, I wanted to ask Evian a little bit. 944 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 7: I love reading other people's stuff afterwards because there's so 945 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 7: much going on you don't feel like you get to 946 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 7: see everything. But you pointed out Craig Woodson, who I 947 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 7: didn't really clock yesterday, and I was just I know 948 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 7: you had some nice things to say about him. 949 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 3: I'm just curious what you saw. 950 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I admit I wasn't super high on 951 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 5: that pick. I thought that they reached a little bit 952 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 5: on that pick, and it's way too early to determine 953 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 5: it one way or the other. But he's probably been 954 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 5: the rookie that has surprised me the most throughout this 955 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 5: whole process so far. I just I think that he's 956 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 5: got a really good instinctual feel for the game, especially 957 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,959 Speaker 5: in zone coverage, you know, help coverage, whether he's playing 958 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 5: over the top or he's playing your robber, second level 959 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 5: coverage and zone and he's got just a good feel 960 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 5: for it. And I feel like that's not necessarily a 961 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 5: strength of Dugger or Jabriel Peppers in terms of playing 962 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 5: in space and playing deep in the deep part of 963 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 5: the field. So if he can do something like that 964 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 5: at an NFL level, then those guys can then go 965 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 5: do what they do best and they can go after 966 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 5: the football and be a little bit more aggressive. But 967 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 5: with with with Woodson yesterday, I think it was it 968 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 5: was Dobbs who's playing quarterback, might have been May, but 969 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 5: there was like a an indcut over the middle of 970 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 5: the field and he just was sitting right in the 971 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 5: passing window and it made him they had the quarterback. 972 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 5: I had ended up having to airmail it at the 973 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 5: last second because he kind of baited him and uh 974 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 5: then he had to airmail it and it was like, 975 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 5: that's a good, like, heady play for a guy that's 976 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 5: two weeks into this as a rookie, so not ready 977 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 5: to you know, put put him in the red jacket 978 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 5: or anything yet. But there's one of you know, I 979 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 5: kind of expected to be impressed by Traveon Henderson. I 980 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 5: kind of expected to be impressed by Kyle Williams, you know, 981 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 5: Will Campbell, those guys I figured would stand out at immediate, 982 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 5: you know, first impression. But Craig Woodson, I would say, 983 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 5: has been the other rookie that's that's kind of made 984 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 5: a little bit of an impression. 985 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to the phones. We'll go to Chris 986 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: in New Hampshire. Hey, Chris. 987 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 2: Great Hey, does. 988 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 11: Anyone know that he can hear me? 989 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: Yep? 990 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 11: Yeah, Did anyone know if Juwan Bentley got signed? I've 991 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 11: been looking at can't find. 992 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 5: No, he's still a free agent. 993 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think injury digs. Does he see one of those. 994 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 11: Two people that got cut that disagreed with the other? 995 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 11: One is does Ron Mayo have a job? 996 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't know where Gerrod Mayo. 997 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 11: Is, all right? And the last question is was Mayo 998 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 11: a Hall of Fame candidate? For the Patriots before coaching. 999 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't think so, but probably the way everyone gets in. 1000 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 2: But I don't I don't think you get a red jacket. 1001 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 3: They'll get a red jacket. Everything not in my book, No, 1002 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 3: he wouldn't. 1003 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 11: Do you think his coaching disaster have a railed that path? 1004 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: No? No, really, no, I don't. I mean no, he 1005 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 3: be he'd be judged as a player, not as a coach. 1006 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 3: Defensive rookie of the year, don't. 1007 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1008 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 10: I mean he was. 1009 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 11: I was never a big fan of him either way. 1010 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 11: But as a player he was just kind of there. Yeah, 1011 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 11: And as a coach he was an object disaster. 1012 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 3: So a lot of people think that Troy Brown was 1013 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 3: part of the problem with wide receivers. He's been a 1014 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 3: wide receiver a coach for the last several years, and 1015 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 3: the wide receivers didn't develop, didn't seem like they were 1016 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 3: all in the same page, didn't seem like running the 1017 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 3: proper routes. I don't think that's taken away from his 1018 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame status. You know, as a player, I 1019 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 3: think I think you're you're judged as a player, not 1020 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 3: as a coach. 1021 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 5: Being a head coach ian Yeah, but Mike Rabel it 1022 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 5: didn't work out, and we wouldn't be saying that Mike 1023 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 5: Rabel shouldn't be in the Patriots Hall of Fame. 1024 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just Rabel got fired as a as a Titan. 1025 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, but he wasn't. 1026 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 2: But but he was already in the Hall of Fame. 1027 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 4: Let's just say that if he wasn't to say that 1028 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel was more of a disaster than Gerrod Mail. 1029 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 4: And he wasn't in the Patriots Hall of Fame, but 1030 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 4: he was nominated with the fans vote for. 1031 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 5: Maybe the fans wouldn't vote maybe, Yeah, but it wouldn't 1032 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 5: imagined that it wouldn't. 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Is this something that the 1093 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 15: team has to look into. 1094 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 9: Well, it's something that we're aware of, and obviously we 1095 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 9: want to make great decisions on and off the field, 1096 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 9: and we're hoping that with our time here on the 1097 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 9: field today and that when we don't have a script 1098 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 9: and we're on the call up periods, that we're making 1099 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 9: great decisions. 1100 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: And so the message will be the same. 1101 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 9: For all our players that we're trying to make great decisions, 1102 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 9: and any conversations that I've had with Stefan will remain 1103 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 9: between him. 1104 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: And I and the club have him since the video. 1105 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: I talked to our. 1106 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 9: Players every single day, the ones that are here and 1107 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 9: the ones that aren't. 1108 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 2: Are you expected in practice today, Mike? 1109 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: Not if he's not here. So he's not here, you 1110 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: guys will find out in a minute. 1111 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 2: But no, again, he was here last week. 1112 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 3: Video. 1113 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 9: Everything that we're going to do, Karen is we're going 1114 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 9: to coach the guys that show up at eight and 1115 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 9: the ones that say, hey, I got a situation will. 1116 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 1: Be at eight oh five. We'll coach those as well. 1117 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 9: Uh, this is a voluntary part of our off season program. 1118 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 9: And uh, every player that's not here, which there aren't many, 1119 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 9: have been in communication with me and their position coaches. 1120 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 15: I was just going to ask, based on what you've 1121 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 15: seen from the times he's been around, how would you 1122 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 15: say he's progressing. 1123 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: Again? 1124 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 9: The timelines and the prognosis and and everything at Again, 1125 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 9: we're working hard to get him back and to be 1126 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 9: ready to go. But you know when when uh, when 1127 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 9: he's when he's here, we'll coach him and we'll have 1128 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 9: everything ready to go. 1129 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: Updates on. 1130 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 1131 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 9: No, just that he continues to to like our players 1132 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 9: work hard to get. 1133 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: Back and uh excited to have him back again. 1134 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 9: The communication that that I see every day with him 1135 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 9: and the players. 1136 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: In their meetings and in the Zoom meeting, and. 1137 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 9: I know that he's excited and hopefully we'll get him 1138 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 9: back here sooner rather than later. 1139 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 6: Last time we were out here for practice, Drake had 1140 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 6: a few interceptions. 1141 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: Do you care how do you view moments like that? 1142 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 4: Well? 1143 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: I care? I think that. 1144 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 9: I care about it, every player's performance, and that we 1145 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 9: continue to improve and that there has been great improvement. 1146 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: Over you know, the day. 1147 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 9: Everybody's going to have a bad day, and there's a 1148 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 9: lot of reasons that, you know, go into it. 1149 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: We're not going to analyze every single practice. 1150 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 9: And and have explanations for for things that came up. 1151 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 9: But the command, the operation, all those things have continued 1152 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 9: to improve. And in sound who asked me, but you 1153 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 9: know what I thought would be a successful day? 1154 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: And then sure enough I told you those things weren't 1155 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: going to happen. 1156 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 9: So hopefully the operation, the communication today, the execution has 1157 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 9: got to be better. We only have so many of 1158 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 9: these opportunities, and uh, and I'm hopeful that in front. 1159 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: Of us the crowd of media, that we have a 1160 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: better day. 1161 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 7: Do you feel like the defense, it's fair to say 1162 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 7: at this point, is further along in their install and 1163 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 7: process in the offense. 1164 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 8: And if so is how big is the gap? 1165 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 9: Then well, I don't think that they're further along. I 1166 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 9: think that it's probably I have not This is hard. 1167 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 9: This is a hard time in the spring to when 1168 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 9: every pass play is you know, third and ten. I mean, 1169 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 9: it's just their their pass rushing and their pressure and 1170 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 9: they're blitzing, which is great. They we have to be 1171 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 9: able to block and see everything. But it is a 1172 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 9: passing camp and it didn't take the Kean and k 1173 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 9: C and Christian and Milt and Harold long to figure 1174 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 9: that out. 1175 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of is what it is, which 1176 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: is good. And then again they know how to practice. 1177 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: We have to be able to. 1178 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 9: Speed and pass rush and then stay away from the quarterback, 1179 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 9: get out of the way, stay off the ground, all 1180 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 9: those things that they've been able to do over the 1181 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 9: course of you know, the first four OTAs. 1182 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 5: However, Laundring was we talked about it last week. 1183 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 3: He was absent and then we saw a photo post 1184 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 3: by the team that he was back at practice. 1185 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: Just what was it like to get. 1186 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 5: Him back in the mix of things. 1187 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have everybody here. 1188 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 9: I want to support him through this process the best 1189 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 9: that we can, and that's probably a little bit more difficult. 1190 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 9: He doesn't know us as well, and so his communication 1191 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 9: I appreciate it, and you know, but it's great to 1192 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 9: have him back and then we'll kind of work them 1193 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 9: along make sure that he's ready to get out there. 1194 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 9: So I don't know how much you'll see him in 1195 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 9: some of the live team action. I don't think that's 1196 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 9: fair to him to just throw him back out there. 1197 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 9: But there's certainly a return to play, like a lot 1198 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,439 Speaker 9: of players will have throughout the course of the year. 1199 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 3: You have receiver, a lot of new faces on the 1200 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 3: team this year, players coaches? 1201 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 9: How much of a focus this spring is team building 1202 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 9: and just getting guys to learn each other because there are. 1203 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 2: So many new basins. 1204 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: I think that's important. 1205 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 9: I think the execution is also important, the ability to 1206 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 9: work with another player out on the field, a guy 1207 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 9: next to you. Linemen are going to move around, have 1208 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 9: to pop in a different position, Quarterbacks are going to 1209 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 9: have to throw to different players. But I certainly think 1210 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 9: that part of this process of playing this game is 1211 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 9: about building relationships and connections with players and coach is alike. 1212 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: Will you have a. 1213 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: Leading voice in Drake's development this year? 1214 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 15: Something that. 1215 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 9: I would have, I hope a voice in every player's 1216 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,919 Speaker 9: development on our football team. 1217 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 1: Is it generally like what would it be like? You 1218 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: would it be Josh? Do you guys have sort of 1219 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: one voice that's going to take the leader or is 1220 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: it going to be. 1221 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 9: More collaborative, I think, but I have something to say 1222 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 9: to Drake, I'll say it. And I think when Josh 1223 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 9: wants to put plays in that can help him or 1224 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 9: explain what the read is. It's going to be things 1225 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 9: that I'm not going to be as knowledgeable at when 1226 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 9: it relates to quarterbacks. But I think that there will 1227 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 9: be some other things that I can help them. And 1228 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 9: you know, we don't have it scripted out. That's kind 1229 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 9: of our job is to kind of figure out what 1230 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 9: to say and when you say it, Like, we have a. 1231 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 4: Lot of numbers in the wide receiver room over the 1232 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,919 Speaker 4: course of time, Hot, how. 1233 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 9: Do you have the same number of everybody else in 1234 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 9: the National Football League? 1235 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 16: Right? 1236 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: But how you addressed that last week? 1237 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 6: When you watch these guys, what are you looking for 1238 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 6: that separates them? 1239 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: Do they know what to do? Can they line up? 1240 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: Can they catch balk and they help the quarterback. 1241 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 9: That they play and they finish and they transition when 1242 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 9: they don't how fast they play when they don't have 1243 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 9: the football in their hands. So some of that stuff 1244 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 9: we can see in the spring, and a lot of 1245 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,479 Speaker 9: that stuff will will materialize once we get to training camp. 1246 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 2: Last year, who wanted to last year. 1247 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 7: To grill Pepper's pilege that we generally recognize two of 1248 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 7: the better safety canons in the league. 1249 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 2: My PE's back there, you at it. We're going to 1250 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: talk to Peppers. 1251 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 3: Later on today. 1252 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 17: Do you feel good about that safety rotation that he's 1253 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 17: sorting out, how they're gonna be, what they're gonna do. 1254 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 9: I don't think anybody's really sorted out anything as far 1255 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 9: as roles on this football team yet. 1256 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: I like the people, I like the players. 1257 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 9: Haven't seen dugger on the field just because he's working 1258 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 9: through something which you know is not uncommon in the spring. 1259 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 9: Loved Jabriel's energy. I liked his his passion for the game. 1260 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,439 Speaker 9: I like his energy when he comes into building. Those 1261 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 9: things are all very positive. And then the new players 1262 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 9: and the new additions are are trying to carve out 1263 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 9: a role as well. 1264 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 2: Could streams so far. 1265 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 7: So last week sort of rotating at both guard spots 1266 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 7: as opposed to center. 1267 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,240 Speaker 3: Just you know, how has he done this early? 1268 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 9: It's hard to really identify alignment. It's a lot of 1269 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 9: pass protection and it's a you know, quick whistle and 1270 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 9: there's no pads on. So again, Cole's working extremely hard 1271 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 9: the versatility that he'll he'll be able to display is 1272 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 9: something that will be critical. 1273 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 3: You mentioned some of the things you want to see 1274 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 3: out of Wie receiver as the dan. 1275 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 2: What have you seen from keisham Brudi so far in 1276 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 2: that regard? 1277 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 9: The same as everybody else, working hard, I think that 1278 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 9: he's gotten in better shape as we started to go 1279 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 9: on to the OTAs, and I think that's really started 1280 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 9: to help him as we stack plays together and we're 1281 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 9: trying to string it. You know, in the game, you 1282 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 9: don't just take a play on and just come off 1283 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 9: and then go back and hopefully you can string together, 1284 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 9: you know, four or five plays as we work down 1285 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 9: the football field. So I think that he's working to 1286 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 9: do that. And uh, you know, I like like his attitude. 1287 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 9: I enjoy, you know, his willingness to to continue to 1288 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 9: improve and maybe do some things a little differently. 1289 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 11: How have you liked to be at. 1290 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 3: The pace of practice. 1291 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 6: We've only been out here for one of them, but 1292 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 6: it looked like it was relatively intense or a couple 1293 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 6: you know, guys on the field. 1294 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: That means a lot coming from you, Phil, thank you. 1295 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 6: You know, pretty good gauge and that pretty intense guy myself. 1296 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 6: But how do you strike the balance between like you 1297 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 6: don't want guys to be competitive, but you also don't 1298 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 6: want guys. 1299 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's the biggest coach speak in the spring, 1300 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 9: as you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. 1301 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 9: It's like, compete, but stay up the compete, But the 1302 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 9: receiver has the right to the football. You know, we 1303 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 9: can't go through the through the back of them. I 1304 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 9: think that the energy is there. I think the urgency 1305 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 9: is there. I'd like to see guys running off the field, 1306 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 9: coming out on the field to take the field, to 1307 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,439 Speaker 9: be ready to go, breaking the huddle, lining up, having 1308 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 9: an urgency to which we practice and I think all 1309 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 9: those things hopefully will lead to better execution of questions. 1310 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 17: Observation for your involvement in practice. Watching the other day 1311 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 17: was interesting to see you're coaching one on one with 1312 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 17: players from different backgrounds, different paths here, different position. How 1313 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 17: important is it for you? 1314 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: And that's face it's. 1315 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 17: Not obvious to coach all ninety guys on your roster 1316 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 17: here and then into the summer. 1317 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's important. I think I one, I 1318 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,959 Speaker 9: enjoy it, I like it, I love it. I try 1319 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,439 Speaker 9: to be as knowledgeable at every position as I possibly can, 1320 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 9: some more than others. We reference the quarterback, but having 1321 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 9: something at each position group that can maybe translate from my. 1322 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: Perspective to help the player. 1323 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 9: But then I also think that you know where the 1324 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 9: head coach is is probably what the players think are important. 1325 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: So I try to be a little bit everywhere. Coaches. 1326 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 2: You have end new defensive scheme, it's still with a 1327 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 2: lot of veterans. 1328 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 9: How do you feel the communication has been with these 1329 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 9: units early on? 1330 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: Again? Good? Good? I think that when you get to 1331 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: when we split the squad. 1332 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 3: And now great moments in. 1333 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 2: History. You know used to fish. My grandfather Yeah, oh really, wow? 1334 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 3: Please tell I know that he had a twenty eight 1335 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 3: to three shirt sold I don't know that his grandfather 1336 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:09,959 Speaker 3: used to fish. 1337 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 2: They all used Shakespeare, rods Y Ted Williams. 1338 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 16: So my grandfather was longtime track coach at Tufts from 1339 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 16: the early thirties all the way until he died in 1340 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 16: the early seventies, and he developed a friendship with Ted Williams. 1341 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 3: There's there's some interesting newspaper articles that I've dug up 1342 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 3: that it's my grandfather. I never met him. 1343 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 16: He died before I was born Clarence ding Duso. The 1344 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 16: track of Tous is named after him. But they used 1345 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 16: to go him and Ted would go up to up 1346 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 16: to New Brunswick where my grandfather did all the summers, 1347 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 16: and they would fish together, fly fishing. And this is 1348 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 16: the crazy story. John Henry Duso Williams. They named his 1349 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 16: middle name is Dusau after my grandfather. 1350 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 3: You go to newspapers dot com. 1351 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 16: You can do a lot of searching. 1352 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 3: I found one that's, like, you know, du So teaches 1353 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 3: the Red Sox how to run. 1354 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 16: So my grandfather went down to Florida and was talking 1355 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 16: to them about like speed and stuff. 1356 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, so it's he's he's got a he's got 1357 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 3: a whole story. I've got his whole All this, I 1358 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 3: got a feeling. 1359 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 4: There's a lot of stories that deuces and I'm getting 1360 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 4: through them slowly but surely. 1361 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 3: But that's one of the better ones. 1362 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 2: The moral of the stories. You're kind of a disappointment 1363 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: in your family. 1364 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 3: That's another great moment. 1365 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 4: Guys want some good news and bad news. Sure, you 1366 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 4: want the good news or the bad news? 1367 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 2: First? Bad news first, The bad news is football isn't back. 1368 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 4: But the good news summer is upon us and you 1369 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 4: can stock up on everything you need to kick back 1370 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 4: and relax with winning styles from Bob's Discount Furniture Shop. 1371 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 4: Bob's for the latest feature packed media centers made for 1372 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 4: summer movie nights, sleepover friendly sofas and sectionals, will built 1373 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 4: in pop up sleepers, and Bob's signature mattresses made with 1374 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 4: cooling technology to keep your feeling chill and comfortable. So 1375 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 4: stop in and spend your summer with Bob's Discount Furniture, 1376 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 4: the official furniture store of. 1377 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,439 Speaker 2: The New England Patriots. So good stuf h. But Paul 1378 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 2: is going to be back in the Bob's studio for 1379 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 2: preseason games, right yeah? 1380 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 3: I do I have to miss I have to miss 1381 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 3: a game, Freddie. You have to know how rare it 1382 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 3: is for me to miss a game. 1383 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 2: No, but yeah, go ahead. 1384 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 3: When was the last time I missed a game? 1385 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 1386 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 3: You never? You missed the whole Super Bowl, missed the 1387 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 3: ASH Championship game, and and but I got it through 1388 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 3: that game. And it was also COVID, so we couldn't 1389 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 3: couldn't be you know in the stadium you ha COVID 1390 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 3: or that No, I didn't have COVID during just the 1391 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 3: Monday night game during the COVID season. I think that's 1392 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 3: what I believe. For AFC Championship game in the Super Bowl. 1393 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 3: I think it was the only two games that I 1394 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 3: ever missed. And I have to miss the Minnesota preseason game. 1395 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 7: Wow, okay, Saturday without you Saturday. How much there ought 1396 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 7: to get me. I get it like a day game, 1397 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 7: which is perfect. I have to miss it. 1398 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 5: Unbelievably good. 1399 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Moving TJ into into school. 1400 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm telling you the the runout song topic, people are 1401 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 4: still emailing. 1402 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, now, just want to see the newsletter tomorrow 1403 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 3: to see deuces. Well, these were personal, but everybody knows 1404 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 3: what like Mayaan would be. Like there's only four or 1405 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 3: five options. You can kind of figure out what Miyae 1406 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 3: would be. 1407 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 5: Very very man. 1408 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 3: Songs with Barry Man alone, I mean they have great ballads, 1409 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 3: but they're great now you go Earthwork and fire Darna Summer. 1410 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you know the common It's not that many options, no, 1411 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 3: But deuce Deuce is a mystery. I have no idea 1412 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 3: what this. I'm intrigued. I think I mentioned it on 1413 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 3: the shows. I don't want to build. 1414 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 4: It up too much, but too bad Moss isn't still 1415 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 4: on the team because we could have. 1416 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 2: Oh, Randy, you came and you game. 1417 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 3: That was unbelievable last night, by the way, and brought 1418 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 3: the house. 1419 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: You crying. 1420 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 3: It was like crying. 1421 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 7: I mean, I enjoyed the Barry man Al concert. No, 1422 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 7: it was not crying. 1423 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 5: His only thing going on. 1424 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 2: You couldn't drag me to that. 1425 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It was a lot 1426 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 3: of funny and Matt and I went with no socks 1427 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 3: and Mike Reese and my wife. 1428 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 2: Mike's where It's royalty? Really? 1429 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 3: You recognized Mike's of course we did. What are you 1430 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 3: kidd name? Didn't I say? I was Mike with Mike? 1431 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 2: Where was the garden? 1432 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 3: The garden is just an actual garden. 1433 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 2: Now I'm showing my show from Barry Mandel. 1434 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 3: That's it's it's one and the same. It's man, It's man. 1435 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 2: Do you know you rated? 1436 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. I don't talk, but anyway, 1437 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 3: it was. It was a great time. And I'll tell 1438 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 3: you he's like eighty one years old. 1439 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, rocks. 1440 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 3: He was out there for almost two hours just playing 1441 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 3: all the hits, Freddy off Mandy even now I know 1442 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 3: into him when he was after. 1443 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 5: He's a Vegas rank guy. 1444 01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Right. 1445 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 3: I know I write the song, you know, I know 1446 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 3: write the songs. I like the copa Cabana. 1447 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 5: You got three that's a banger. 1448 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I know all the songs. 1449 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 3: At least she at least she being honest with yourself. 1450 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 7: I pretending it was even crazy. Paul didn't even drink 1451 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 7: at it. I didn't imagine berry Man was so bad. 1452 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 3: Even I had a couple of dire cokes. So this 1453 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 3: is the thing that really stood out to no socks 1454 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 3: and right over I heard you. This is the thing 1455 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 3: that really I was fully anticipating. Being among the youngest 1456 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 3: people in this crowd. I figured there's gonna be a 1457 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 3: lot of like seventy five and up. Yeah, there were 1458 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 3: a lot of young people. 1459 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 8: There were they with their parents probably. 1460 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 3: In some cases. Yeah, like Mike Reese took his dad. 1461 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 2: Roy Reese was there. Was great to see Roy. 1462 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,920 Speaker 3: I was a huge fan of all of our patriots. 1463 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 4: Content by I'm sure, but like I think the lawyer, 1464 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,360 Speaker 4: I was stunned. Like when Tony Bennett was doing his duet, 1465 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 4: like all the young people were like all of a sudden, 1466 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 4: Tony Bennett was like, lady. 1467 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, just because yeah, and I had to. 1468 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 3: So now now you're like, you're disparaging Tony overrated? What 1469 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 3: is wrong with you? 1470 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 2: Overrated? 1471 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 3: Who's rated? 1472 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 15: Who? 1473 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 3: Guy is phenomenal? Like Tony Benning is overrated. 1474 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 4: But all of a sudden, he you know, he had 1475 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 4: this resurgence because he was doing duets with younger lady, what's. 1476 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 3: Wrong with that? 1477 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 2: I just I wasn't into gaming the system. It wasn't 1478 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 2: into it. 1479 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Barry Maniload didn't gain the system. 1480 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 2: He didn't have to. He's got that. He's got killing it. 1481 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 2: He's got his own hits. 1482 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 3: You know, I just laughing. Polic We thought would be 1483 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 3: the oldest people there. There are plenty of people there 1484 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 3: in their fifties. 1485 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 2: I didn't say fifties. 1486 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 3: There were younger people and I. 1487 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 2: Was there, huh, there. 1488 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 8: Are a lot of people my age there a lot. 1489 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 2: I saw that there were. 1490 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 5: I was stunned, Like, you don't know, Barry Manilo like maybe. 1491 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 3: The song you know it it was a They're like, 1492 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,959 Speaker 3: they're like Mike, and they pretend they don't know because 1493 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 3: it's not but they know what. 1494 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 2: Were people singing along? 1495 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 3: I was singing? Yeah, there was only like two songs 1496 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 1497 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 2: I get this picture of Ball singing, what were you wearing? 1498 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 3: Sequence? Sure co incidentally. 1499 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 2: You know, which. 1500 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 3: Come as a big surprise. But I was thing that 1501 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 3: I were watching the o t a practice to part 1502 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 3: jeans and a porters. It wasnt was it was wonderful. 1503 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 2: Jar. 1504 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 3: You're just like babbling words now. It don't make anything. 1505 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 3: Thinking of like old sceptual. 1506 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 4: Female, you know, grabbing Carol Canning Caro, who was the 1507 01:06:50,720 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 4: one that was like she was Latin and. 1508 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 5: She was not succeed you played for the Barns. 1509 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not go to that. It just would 1510 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 2: Neil Diamond. 1511 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 7: No, No, Neil Diamond too. We could talk, Oh do 1512 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 7: you know those songs? But those ones that you're. 1513 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 5: Preford America, I don't really know. 1514 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Though. 1515 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 3: I'm not being facetious about my lack of knowledge of Barry. 1516 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 7: I think I write I know everyone like five, just 1517 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 7: like I know that one. 1518 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I know that one. 1519 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know that one. You know more than you think, 1520 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 3: like springtime in New England, if you heard it, you 1521 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 3: definitely know it. Probably. 1522 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 5: But I think Neil Diamond, I've seen Neil Diamond a 1523 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 5: couple of times. 1524 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Who would you rather go to Neil Diamond or James Taylor. 1525 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Neil Diamonil Diamond. 1526 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 8: I love James Taylor from I. 1527 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 3: Would say, without knowing, I would guess that Neil Diamond 1528 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 3: would put on a good show too. But Maneli put 1529 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 3: on a really good show. It was like kind of 1530 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 3: Vegas Broadway ish. My guess is Neil Diamond would do 1531 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 3: that too. Yeah, and I would put James Taylor third. 1532 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 2: You know, I like Kail would be a snooze. 1533 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Snooze, but I don't think it would be yeah, that entertaining. 1534 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 3: But I do like a lot of his songs. 1535 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Diamond wasn't very not know. 1536 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 3: Any of those. 1537 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 2: I love. 1538 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 3: About James Taylor. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sweet baby. 1539 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 8: James Caroline in my mind. 1540 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, I dated a girl from Western mass And so again, 1541 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 7: if you grow up, Taylor, I dated a woman once 1542 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 7: before I got married. 1543 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1544 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,759 Speaker 7: Felder would say, there's your man a little minute. 1545 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 4: You can move on, all right, eight five five eight 1546 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 4: five five Pats five hundred is the hot line. Let's 1547 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 4: go to the hot line. Vinnie's in Vegas. What's up, Vinnie? 1548 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 10: Hey, guys, how's going good? 1549 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 2: They? 1550 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 10: You know, I love the show I've listened for a 1551 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 10: long time, but you know, it's always about this small 1552 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 10: moment when when dudes was talking about the villain in 1553 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 10: Cobra yesterday and he was talking about how the guy scary, right, 1554 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 10: a guy who scared him, he says, you know, just 1555 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 10: quietly says, not as much as you scare me, right, 1556 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 10: you just I was just cracking up. I do have 1557 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 10: a question for you guys. Is the linebacker a sneaky 1558 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 10: concern when it comes to death? And uh, I don't 1559 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,679 Speaker 10: know have enough bodies or you know, enough good guys there. 1560 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,720 Speaker 3: This is a great question, Finny, because it really dovetails 1561 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 3: nicely into Mike dous during the break. 1562 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 5: Half Big take half, Big take half. 1563 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 3: It's a good one. I like that a theme for that. 1564 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 3: So what do you think, Mike? 1565 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 7: I I mean, I'm not overly concerned at the moment 1566 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 7: because I think they're gonna play less linebackers and it's 1567 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 7: not the big. 1568 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 3: Less linebackers than two. Well yeah, well that's what I mean. 1569 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 7: But like Bill's defense, he felt like you needed six 1570 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 7: or five, like stand up outside needed. 1571 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 3: No, no, no, But they only played two, Like in 1572 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 3: the last five years, they only played like. 1573 01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 2: Two guys at the time. 1574 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,600 Speaker 3: I think back in like the early part of the 1575 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 3: dynasty they have. 1576 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 2: It's become a diminished position. 1577 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 5: I do worry four on the roster from a depth stamp. 1578 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 3: I do worry about the right now. 1579 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 4: You got to buy Ellis Splaine, Jack Gibbons, and Jack Gibs. 1580 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 7: Jack Gibbs, that's kind of the four inside. I mean, 1581 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 7: I just I mean piggyback Anthony. Jenny's kind of seems 1582 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 7: like a man without a country right now, a little 1583 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 7: bit like I'm not sure exactly how he fits and. 1584 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Can him an outside linebacker? 1585 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's you know, but that's not 1586 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 3: really what they're going to play. 1587 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 7: But you know, uh, I don't know if you want 1588 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 7: to get into the whole thing of like tackling machines 1589 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 7: and all that that we were getting into. 1590 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 3: I would say that my concern would be if something 1591 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 3: were to happen in Splain. You're talking about depth. 1592 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 2: So if you're. 1593 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 3: Depth by definition is what happens when the starter is out, 1594 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 3: do you have enough behind him? 1595 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 4: Well, listen, last year, I know there were a lot 1596 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 4: of problems, but when heard, yeah, it. 1597 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 3: Hurts, and you'd have a similar problem as Splaine went. 1598 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,799 Speaker 5: Down, Yeah, they're there. Linebacker played last year, especially against 1599 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 5: the was was rough at times, like. 1600 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,759 Speaker 3: The fits all like teach take in the wrong direction. 1601 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, like they were just getting eclipse left and right eclipse. 1602 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 18: That would But I think clips's that's apt and two 1603 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 18: Like one, I think the position as a whole has 1604 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 18: been devalued across the league. 1605 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 5: And like so I don't think that you necessarily need 1606 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 5: the days of like, oh we have ray Lewis and 1607 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,599 Speaker 5: Brian er Lacker and like these great, you know, Hall 1608 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 5: of Fame caliber linebackers. Like I don't know if you 1609 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 5: necessarily need that anymore. So I'm not worried about it 1610 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 5: from that standpoint. But to Paul's point, like if if 1611 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 5: Bobby Spallane goes down, I mean, what are you Helpy 1612 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 5: happy with Christianellis kind of being your starting MIC or. 1613 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 3: That's exactly that I mean. 1614 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 7: And I think christianellisill looks like he's gonna he's gonna 1615 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 7: have a role on defense this year, like going in 1616 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 7: it isn't going to be part of the you know, 1617 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 7: insert him into the mix because people got injured. 1618 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 3: In that respect, I think he needs to show some 1619 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 3: real strides this year. 1620 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 7: I would put it down as a long term need 1621 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 7: for sure, like I would say draft next year, you're 1622 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 7: looking to try to reinforce that position, but it all 1623 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,680 Speaker 7: goes through Splaine and that I think you're totally right. 1624 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 3: And if he's good, I think they'll be okay. And 1625 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 3: this started because Mike was We were coming off of 1626 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 3: like the caller who asked about Mayo and what, you know, 1627 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 3: what he was like as a player. You know, is 1628 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 3: Splaine a guy who compiles a lot of tackles or 1629 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 3: is he a guy who makes a lot of plays? 1630 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 3: And we'll find out because we're not we're not as 1631 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 3: familiar with his game, you know. We we obviously knew 1632 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 3: of him with the Raiders, but is he more of 1633 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,879 Speaker 3: Bentley Mayo kind of you know, heady, well schooled inside 1634 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 3: linebacker who's going to make a lot of tackles or 1635 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 3: is it Rokwan Smith, you know, like these athletic guys 1636 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 3: that are sidelined to sideline making plays. Evan talked about 1637 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 3: his instincts yesterday that showed up on the Ota practice field, 1638 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 3: which I totally agree with Evan about. He was with 1639 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 3: Traveon Henderson as he was catching balls like three different times, 1640 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 3: so almost to the point where you're wondering if. 1641 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,839 Speaker 2: You know what the plays are here? He's getting annoying. 1642 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a good question. That might I mean, 1643 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 3: and it goes back to Mayo. 1644 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 7: I mean, I think it was around Mayo where I 1645 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 7: started the question, like is being a tackling machine necessarily 1646 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 7: like a great thing? I think you put it perfectly 1647 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 7: Paul with do you want a guy who makes a lot. 1648 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 3: Of tackle or a guy who makes plays? 1649 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 7: And I do think in Splain's the past couple of 1650 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 7: years and the Raiders, you saw turnovers, you saw tackles 1651 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 7: for loss plays behind the line of scrimmage, which is 1652 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 7: really positive, but it's just a hard place to be 1653 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 7: where the way I kind of put it, and I 1654 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 7: don't know if this makes sense, is like, is he 1655 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,959 Speaker 7: a guy who's going to just make sure that everything's 1656 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,640 Speaker 7: right and doesn't you know, you don't get gas for 1657 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 7: a huge play he's going to make the tackle six 1658 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 7: yards down the field. Or is he the kind of 1659 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 7: guy that's going to get into the backfield and make 1660 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 7: some of the plays Like it looks like he's capable 1661 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 7: of making with his recognition and. 1662 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 3: Speed, and I think that that's more what he is. 1663 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's what I was lacking with Evan's point 1664 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 7: about guys getting eclipse, where that you know, you either 1665 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,639 Speaker 7: have to know what's going to happen and get there first, 1666 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 7: or you just have to be so athletic that you, 1667 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 7: i mean, beat everybody there physically first. 1668 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 4: What will his role be and will that be dependent 1669 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 4: on what style of defensive line they want. If they 1670 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 4: want a defensive line that gets up at it, that's 1671 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 4: what it's. They need him to be that kind of 1672 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 4: gatekeeper behind them. 1673 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 3: Right, that's my that's it. 1674 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 5: That's what I envision it's going to be. It's gonna 1675 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 5: be Kean White, Christian Barmore, Milton Williams go get you guys, 1676 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 5: go hunting, and Robert Spoayne is there to clean up 1677 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 5: the track. And when guys squeak out or they you know, 1678 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 5: it's gonna be a little boom or bust. You know, 1679 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 5: ke On White's gonna fly into the backfield and sometimes 1680 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 5: he's gonna miss a shot, and then Robert Splayne is 1681 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 5: there to so it's a five yard game instead of 1682 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 5: a twenty five yard game. You know that sort of thing. 1683 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,719 Speaker 5: He made a lot of plays again with the Raiders, 1684 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 5: and I think the number one thing that stood out 1685 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 5: to me when I watched him when they sign him 1686 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 5: in free agency is just he plays with his hair 1687 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 5: on fire, like this is a guy that has a 1688 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 5: red hot motor. 1689 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 3: He lives his life that way. 1690 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he is. You are never going to question an 1691 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 5: effort with him on a football field. So those types 1692 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 5: of plays it might look. It might not be backfield 1693 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 5: plays right like, it might be tackles for loss, but 1694 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 5: there might be times where he chases down a running 1695 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 5: back you know that's trying to turn the corner, and 1696 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,559 Speaker 5: you see Bobby splaying just streaking across the field and 1697 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 5: making the play where you say, wow, there he is, 1698 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,680 Speaker 5: you know that sort of thing. I don't know if 1699 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,760 Speaker 5: he's like a navigate the trash inside the trenches, like 1700 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna maneuver around blocks, I'm gonna, you know, find 1701 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 5: the football. I don't know if that's necessarily his game. 1702 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 5: He's a you know, seaball, get ball, keep him clean 1703 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 5: kind of player, such. 1704 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,520 Speaker 7: A verbel kind of guy. And I've just been reinforced. 1705 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 7: I think at some point I think might have been 1706 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 7: the final mock draft they did where I took Will Campbell, 1707 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 7: which is this is a verbel kind of guy. And 1708 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 7: I think those those things that bore out to me, 1709 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 7: like guys like Spline, guys like Will Campbell, you can 1710 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 7: tell what kind of guys Mike Rabel wants on this team. 1711 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 3: And that's why, even hearing from Pepper's yesterday. 1712 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 7: Throughout last year, for him, I think he's kind of 1713 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 7: the kind of guy that likes Rabel talked about him 1714 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 7: a little bit, the energy, you know, so that I 1715 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 7: think gives him a chance to stick. 1716 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 5: I think it's an interesting though. You said linebacker, like 1717 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,600 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six need potentially in the off season, and 1718 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:16,440 Speaker 5: they needed players at premium positions so badly, you know, quarterback, 1719 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 5: left tackle, wide receiver, like those are premium positions where 1720 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 5: if you hit on all those guys, if Will Campbell's 1721 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 5: a hit and Drake's a hit, then hopefully next offseason 1722 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 5: you can go draft a middle linebacker high. You can 1723 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 5: draft a tight end high. You can't draft an EDG 1724 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 5: rusher or like a nickel corner or like these positions 1725 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 5: that aren't as valuable. And that's that's exactly what ended 1726 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 5: up happening for the Lions. Like the Lions just they 1727 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 5: got Aiden Hutchinson, they got Jared Goff, they got Penny Sewell, 1728 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 5: and then the next draft it was Gibbs, it was 1729 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 5: Jack Campbell, it was Sam Laporta, it was Brian Branch 1730 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 5: And that's how you kind of build out the roster. 1731 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,560 Speaker 3: Just to joke, to take that to I thought, you 1732 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:56,120 Speaker 3: know what you. 1733 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 7: Wrote about the guys up front, it's kind of the 1734 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 7: veterans up front. Just interesting to me watching Elijah Ponder 1735 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 7: and Braden Swinson, who are more in the opportunity level 1736 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 7: of guys right now. So can one of those guys 1737 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 7: emerge and crack their way into the rotation as a 1738 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 7: pass rusher. That's something that's kind of ping my rat 1739 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 7: or over these first couple practices. 1740 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 4: Travis in West Virginia wants to know if we'd ever 1741 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 4: be willing to publish data after each show on the 1742 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 4: total number of emails we receive and. 1743 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 2: How many were read and how many were ignored. 1744 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 4: For example, today we received eighteen emails read, three ignored 1745 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 4: the other fifteen. 1746 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 3: I mean the cameras would be much higher than that. 1747 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,759 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we get we get a ton of emails, 1748 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 4: and yeah, I get to a fraction of them. I 1749 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 4: was thinking that one point of putting all the emails 1750 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,920 Speaker 4: we didn't read in a place where other people you 1751 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 4: could just read them. But like, if you what's what's 1752 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,679 Speaker 4: the point there just reading emails without answers? 1753 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? How many gems do you really miss? Yeah? 1754 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 8: Wow, Well, dude, looks like you would be like Reddit. 1755 01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:00,120 Speaker 8: Just post your email and like Reddit. There's a pu subreddit, but. 1756 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 4: There is the uh Nate North Northeast Pennsylvania writes sad 1757 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 4: off season topics only for me? Sorry, Evan one. Why 1758 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 4: are Fred and Paul wearing the same shirt? It's they're 1759 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 4: similar shirts, very similar. We did not call last night 1760 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:22,719 Speaker 4: to see what each we're wearing. Mine fits though, wow 1761 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 4: wows pants also doesn't have anything. 1762 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 8: He looks like, yeah, friend, got a lunch stain. 1763 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 4: He looks like the lead singer of Talking Heads, and 1764 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 4: he's talking to me like it doesn't it. 1765 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:39,799 Speaker 2: Not today's style. 1766 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,719 Speaker 3: I'm not young enough to wear today's style. 1767 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 2: Why not? 1768 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,599 Speaker 3: Because that's for the young. 1769 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,080 Speaker 2: Kids starting to look younger. 1770 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, you go to the stop one of 1771 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 4: those guys doctor de Filici and get your hair in 1772 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,720 Speaker 4: and whatever they call him. 1773 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 3: Robert Leonard, Robert Leonard. Yeah, that is one. 1774 01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, see the Hair Doctor. 1775 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah you'll be you'll be hosting shows on NBC Sports. 1776 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 2: But no one wants me. 1777 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty apparent. 1778 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 8: It's like that guy Brian Johnson that like has the 1779 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 8: biological age of a twenty five year old, but he's 1780 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 8: in his forties. 1781 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't believe that. I called bes on 1782 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 5: those things, like we hear about I hear about this 1783 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 5: all the time, Like, oh, like so this like person 1784 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 5: is like actually seventy, but biologically they're only twenty five, 1785 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 5: Like now they're seventy jack. Yeah, no, not buying it. 1786 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 2: Well, okay, I don't I don't want to get into it. 1787 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:30,679 Speaker 2: But anyway. 1788 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 4: Two, do you have a rough idea the number of 1789 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,479 Speaker 4: listeners PU has? 1790 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we have a lot. 1791 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:38,759 Speaker 5: We have more than a rough idea. 1792 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,600 Speaker 4: We have more listeners than a lot of towns and 1793 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 4: cities in the United States. Thousands, Humble brand lots more 1794 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 4: than thousandsands, Yeah, tens of thousands. Three When an't we 1795 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 4: going to see the faces of the popular callers and listeners? Yeah, 1796 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 4: I have a picture in my mind of how Christian 1797 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 4: and La looks. I picture a dark turtleneck and slick 1798 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 4: black hair sunglasses, similar to Todd from National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. 1799 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 5: We're gonna do that period. 1800 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 3: Those pictures are scary people. 1801 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 8: I mean, come on, I'm waiting for like the dead 1802 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:17,080 Speaker 8: real dead period, like maybe early July after the fourth 1803 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,719 Speaker 8: for training camp, after many camp. 1804 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:24,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, Lizzie right, No, that's something else. 1805 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,679 Speaker 2: Tyler and ludlow Wright said. 1806 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,599 Speaker 4: If there were to be a true NFL minor league 1807 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 4: with players that had contracts with NFL teams, I think 1808 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 4: it would give a considerable bump to interest in the league. 1809 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 4: But for fantasy football players, Mike myself, having a spring 1810 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 4: league with fantasy platforms would scratch that itch we have 1811 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 4: in the off season. Even casual fans interested fantasy football 1812 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 4: spring league. 1813 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 5: That that wasn't the point, But you do you if 1814 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 5: that's what, If that's why you're into it, then I 1815 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 5: then all the power to it. It's more revenue for 1816 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 5: my shape league ahead, Mike. 1817 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just gonna mention that announced. David Andrews will 1818 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 7: be announcing his retirement on Monday. 1819 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 2: There'll be a whole press continent. 1820 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 3: Press conference for him. 1821 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 4: Will have that Lie Patris dot Com, David and David 1822 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,720 Speaker 4: Andrews deciding to retire Ye Now a game which of 1823 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,960 Speaker 4: these two players would win most consistently in a one 1824 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,639 Speaker 4: on one matchup in their prime? 1825 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 2: John Hannah versus Vince Wilfork. 1826 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 5: Vince Wilfork, Oh, Hannah, That's it's hard. 1827 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,599 Speaker 2: Hannah was Hannah was sixty? 1828 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,839 Speaker 3: Right, That's what different It's that difference is inside. 1829 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Vince. 1830 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 3: Can I say John Hannah with today's like, it's not 1831 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 3: a two hundred underd pounds what today? 1832 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:37,799 Speaker 2: Guard? 1833 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 3: I think John Hannah was a better player than Vince 1834 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 3: will agree? Is that fair to say? 1835 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely? It was a hall of a monomano. It's going 1836 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:45,640 Speaker 2: to the beef. 1837 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 3: Because Evan's right. I think he three thirty, maybe played 1838 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 3: at like two eighty. 1839 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Vince played at like four hundred. 1840 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 8: Well, according to Ted, Oh, they got him like his 1841 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,719 Speaker 8: ideal playing weight, all things consider like balanced nutrition. 1842 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,679 Speaker 3: Well that's what it said in the media. 1843 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 8: Guy, Well that's what they tried to get him to. 1844 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,600 Speaker 5: There's no way he granted. 1845 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 8: He was way higher than that when Ted before Ted 1846 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 8: started working with him. 1847 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 2: Matt Light versus Matthew. 1848 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 5: Judon that's a pretty even one. 1849 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,080 Speaker 2: I'd say fifty to fifty split. 1850 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an even one. 1851 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't think Judon was, you know, like 1852 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 3: the the Jason Taylor, like the really athletic edge rushers 1853 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,920 Speaker 3: gave Matt light a hard gave everybody apart, but he 1854 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 3: was pretty good. I think with just you know, the 1855 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 3: because I don't think Judon was that dynamic. He was 1856 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 3: a good edge rusher, but not like Jason Taylor or 1857 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 3: Dwight Feeney. 1858 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 4: Of those guys, Aaron Dobson, Verus Cyrus Jones, that's Aaron. 1859 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to say Aaron. He's contested catches. 1860 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,680 Speaker 2: Devin mccordy and Ben Coates. 1861 01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 3: Oh Coats, Ben Coates, Coats in their prime, Coats was 1862 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,040 Speaker 3: a really good receiving. 1863 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 5: Coat was awesome. I wish that uh Coats like played 1864 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,960 Speaker 5: now like. If Colts played now like, he would be 1865 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 5: one of the best tight ends in the league. 1866 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,440 Speaker 2: I would think uh Christian Gonzales versus Julian Edelman. 1867 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 5: Such different types of players, Like one's an outside corner 1868 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 5: on the slot receiver. 1869 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 3: I'd say Edelman because I because of what Evan just said, 1870 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 3: it's kind of a. 1871 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 2: He's gonna get open. 1872 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,679 Speaker 3: You know it's I used to make fun of Andy. 1873 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 3: You would always say that's a tough matchup, and I 1874 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 3: would say, what a cornerback against a wide receiver? And 1875 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 3: you know, I know, I know what Andy was meaning, Like, 1876 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 3: he's a taller outside corner who's looking to get you know, 1877 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,680 Speaker 3: you tell me a j Brown against Christian Gonzales. I'll 1878 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 3: I might take Gonzales there, but woman's shifty and if 1879 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,480 Speaker 3: that he's in space. 1880 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,839 Speaker 2: Does it depend on whose edelman to win that matchup? 1881 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 13: No? 1882 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 3: Does he get open or not? Yeah, you win the 1883 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 3: matchup for getting opened. I know, well, but you think 1884 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,599 Speaker 3: about it in the bubble. We watched that drill all. 1885 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 7: The time and it's pretty much wide receiver wins every 1886 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,800 Speaker 7: sing every time. If you're telling me that, all right, 1887 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 7: there are going to be eleven guys in the field 1888 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 7: and Gonzales is in the slot versus him, it's still 1889 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 7: tough man. 1890 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 3: Even when you see those one on ones, right, we 1891 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,479 Speaker 3: watch them all the time and we always chart him 1892 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 3: right when they go downfield, the cornerbacks have a much 1893 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,639 Speaker 3: better chance. But when it's the short area of quickness 1894 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 3: and you know, little jerk routes TikTok routes. 1895 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, Corey Dillon versus Dante High Tower, we're. 1896 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,759 Speaker 5: Talking TikTok routes like, oh yeah, you're gonna break five 1897 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 5: times before you actually run the round. Yeah great, cool. 1898 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 2: Sorry, Corey Dylan verus Dante High Tower. 1899 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 7: Oh gosh, that's another good one. 1900 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 5: Very I mean, like in the whole, like in what 1901 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 5: sense he carry covering him? 1902 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 3: Corey Dillon break Dante High Towers tackled, and then I 1903 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 3: would probably say no. 1904 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,879 Speaker 5: I'm going High Tower. He tackled marsham Lynch with one arm. 1905 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 2: So I might go with Dylan here. 1906 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,000 Speaker 3: That's tough. That's a good one. 1907 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 2: Tom Brady versus Brian Urlcker. 1908 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,679 Speaker 5: Well we already saw that, right, we know the one? 1909 01:24:58,800 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, right? 1910 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,320 Speaker 4: And my song of choice for a runout with the 1911 01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,680 Speaker 4: Boys are Back in Town by Finn Lizzie. 1912 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 2: Oh you had such a good game and then you 1913 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,080 Speaker 2: ruined it with that song choice the Boys are back 1914 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 2: in Town? Come on, that gets you hyped up? 1915 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 3: Come on, really, that's not it's not my masking, baby. 1916 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 4: I'm asking you if you heard that like before, that's 1917 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 4: the guys run out with I don't think if that 1918 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 4: is no, come on. 1919 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 7: I was thinking about this a tiny bit, and I 1920 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,640 Speaker 7: don't want to derail it, but I was just wondering, like, 1921 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,840 Speaker 7: what if you just stuck with crazy training. 1922 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:33,640 Speaker 3: You've had it. 1923 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 7: That's a concert or Welcome to the Jungle. 1924 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,720 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Jungle, no one's ever done it. 1925 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,719 Speaker 5: Can't you be doing crazy trains. 1926 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 2: That's I'm kidding everybody. 1927 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 8: It seems like the. 1928 01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,920 Speaker 7: I know the Bengals for sure, but the program, the program, 1929 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 7: that movie did it right with the Welcome to the Jungle, 1930 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:52,560 Speaker 7: that practice. 1931 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 3: Sequence, Welcome to the Jungle. That to me, I always 1932 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,519 Speaker 3: get it, you know, I'm talking about the program. Yeah 1933 01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,120 Speaker 3: bad women, Yeah, of course. Yeah, you're staring at me 1934 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,360 Speaker 3: like I don't just respect me that I don't pretend 1935 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 3: to get. I don't pretend I don't know movies that 1936 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 3: everybody knows. 1937 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:11,559 Speaker 5: Welcome to the Jungles of celticsminator Why Jungle? Yeah, because 1938 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,680 Speaker 5: KG called the garden the jungle one time and so 1939 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 5: then they started playing Welcome to the Jungle, and then 1940 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 5: it's been the song right before tip off is playing 1941 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 5: everything go ye. 1942 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 2: Do they still do that? 1943 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:22,679 Speaker 1: Really? 1944 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh? 1945 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:28,639 Speaker 4: Evan's still catching strays from his music case Ben from 1946 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:29,800 Speaker 4: Hershey Pennsylvania. 1947 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Evan's taste in. 1948 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 4: Music is classic nostalgia bias with a hint of cultural gatekeeping, 1949 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 4: two psychological phenomenas I agree with which impact our perception 1950 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 4: of music and close us off from hearing new music. Subjectively, 1951 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 4: human beings genuinely believe the music we grew up with 1952 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 4: listening into between the ages of twelve and twenty two 1953 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 4: is the best music, because those are the years of 1954 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 4: life when we have the most experiences and make our 1955 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,439 Speaker 4: deepest rooted memories. We reject new music we're exposed to 1956 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 4: and if widely praised. Furthermore, evans categorization of Sandstorm as 1957 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 4: dubstep should disqualify him from any conversation about modern music. 1958 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:14,320 Speaker 4: Sandstorm is as much dubstep song as Taylor Swift is 1959 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 4: heavy metal. 1960 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 5: Evan the fifth quick Sandstorm is literally an It's electronic music, like, 1961 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 5: it's house music. Like there's no words to the song, 1962 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 5: it's just the beat. 1963 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 2: I have no idea what Yeah, it's I don't know 1964 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 2: what it is. 1965 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 5: It's I mean, I grew up on Sandstorm, so but yeah, 1966 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,160 Speaker 5: I don't even think my generation is the best type 1967 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 5: of music. I think your guys' generation is the best 1968 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 5: kind of music that So I disagree with that whole email. 1969 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,760 Speaker 5: I don't think that it has anything to do with 1970 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:42,599 Speaker 5: my type of music. 1971 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 2: So when you were growing up, did your dad play 1972 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 2: a lot of music? 1973 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,200 Speaker 19: So that's why every. 1974 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 2: That proves his theory. 1975 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 5: But no, his theory is is that the music that 1976 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 5: came out when I was twelve to twenty is. 1977 01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,479 Speaker 2: No the music you listened to when you were twelve 1978 01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 2: to twenty. 1979 01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,599 Speaker 3: But I would put I would definitely all into that 1980 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 3: category of that. The reason I love disco is because 1981 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,600 Speaker 3: that's my form of music, Okay, but I am not 1982 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 3: closed off to today's music. I don't know Sandstorm or 1983 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 3: whatever you know that he's but like that how many 1984 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,519 Speaker 3: times that we talked about Taylor Swift and like what's 1985 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 3: what's popular now? Like, I think a lot of this 1986 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,200 Speaker 3: stuff is great, And I think a lot of older people. 1987 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 3: I know, when I was growing up, older people are like, oh, 1988 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,479 Speaker 3: that crap that you listen to. I don't hear people 1989 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 3: my age say that crap that people listen to Nowadays, 1990 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 3: I hear a lot of people that like this stuff 1991 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 3: that comes out in different genres, not just like the 1992 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 3: top forty stuff. But you know how many people talk 1993 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 3: about the rap stuff that's out now, you know Kendrick. 1994 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 3: You know a lot of people liked it. At the 1995 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 3: super Bowl, a lot of people didn't like it. I 1996 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 3: don't think it's I think he's painting. 1997 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 2: With a broad presser. I think there's something to it. 1998 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,920 Speaker 3: No, there is something to what you remember, what were 1999 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 3: formed on sticks with you. There's definitely something to that. 2000 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 3: But I don't think that that automatically means you shut 2001 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 3: yourself off to anything else. 2002 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 8: There's also just so many new Like the way people 2003 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 8: find new music is so different now with streaming, and 2004 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,400 Speaker 8: there's so much of it. So there's a lot of 2005 01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,240 Speaker 8: great music that's coming out, but it's it's harder to find. 2006 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,559 Speaker 8: You have to kind of put time and effort into it, 2007 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,519 Speaker 8: whereas like the stuff that's on top forty pop is 2008 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 8: just like annoying frequency music that it's like you get 2009 01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,720 Speaker 8: sick of it and you're bored of it. 2010 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,600 Speaker 5: But if you tie. But I don't feel like the 2011 01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,799 Speaker 5: top forty stuff, like you know, we don't. I don't 2012 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,559 Speaker 5: like drive around listening to the radio like I used 2013 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,839 Speaker 5: to when I was younger, right like in the nineties, 2014 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,760 Speaker 5: right because now you just put on your Spotify whatever, right, 2015 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:43,639 Speaker 5: whatever you're. 2016 01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,680 Speaker 4: Because it's sort of like being a fan, like you 2017 01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,640 Speaker 4: grew up with a certain group of athletes you know, 2018 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 4: and you don't know the Babe Bruce and all the 2019 01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 4: you know, So is it kind of the same thing 2020 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 4: where it's what you grew up knowing and these. 2021 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,040 Speaker 5: Are the best, right, But like, in my opinion, like 2022 01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,599 Speaker 5: to go into that with the twelve through twenty age thing, 2023 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,080 Speaker 5: like to me that would say that, I would say that, 2024 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 5: like the best rock band of all time was Green Day, 2025 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 5: right because that was when I that was my age. 2026 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 5: But I don't think that because your father you were. 2027 01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 5: But like but even if my father didn't expose that 2028 01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,320 Speaker 5: to me, I still wouldn't say that. 2029 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,599 Speaker 2: Why why because like about. 2030 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,599 Speaker 8: The Well that's how I feel because I think when 2031 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,599 Speaker 8: you and I were in middle in high school and 2032 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,800 Speaker 8: like early college, that's the best hip hop. Probably a 2033 01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 8: little before that too, yeah and R and B. Now, 2034 01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,800 Speaker 8: I don't I don't know the last time I really 2035 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 8: liked a rap song that came out maybe like a 2036 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,640 Speaker 8: little like Isaiah Rashad was probably the last one I 2037 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 8: was like, oh, I really like this song. Well, unfortunately, 2038 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 8: a lot of well that's what I'm talking about. That's 2039 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 8: me early college. 2040 01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 5: A lot of it now is mumble rap. Yeah, and 2041 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,679 Speaker 5: I haven't, but whereas I have no time. 2042 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:03,240 Speaker 8: There's some great like the singer songwriterive stuff that's coming 2043 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 8: out now. 2044 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:04,479 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2045 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,840 Speaker 4: I was in I was in a T mobile or 2046 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,800 Speaker 4: one of those phone stores Verizon, and I was just 2047 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,600 Speaker 4: making fun of Drake, and I'm like, God, Drake is 2048 01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,280 Speaker 4: mumble rap and the guy behind it is not. 2049 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,200 Speaker 5: That's definitely not mumble rap. 2050 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 3: But Drake's not mumble I know he's popper rapp is. 2051 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 2: I have no idea, you know, I don't know who 2052 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:22,320 Speaker 2: is mumble rap. 2053 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,120 Speaker 7: But you guys are looking like you don't know what 2054 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 7: it's like to go to Strawberries and like you can't 2055 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 7: listen to anything. 2056 01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,920 Speaker 3: You just look at like the CD case. 2057 01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,920 Speaker 7: These guys it was the music store, like the last 2058 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 7: time music The. 2059 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 8: Last time I bought a CD at f y E was. 2060 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 8: I think I was a junior in high school because 2061 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:42,240 Speaker 8: I had a license. 2062 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,680 Speaker 3: It's just like the artwork like that. 2063 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,160 Speaker 8: I forget what album. I think it was, honestly, Taylor 2064 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 8: Swift the right album. Me and my friend Sierra got 2065 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,960 Speaker 8: in the car after school drove to the mall and 2066 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,920 Speaker 8: that's the last time. I Oh, no, Casey, I bought 2067 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 8: a Casey Muscave. 2068 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:57,759 Speaker 5: But like we were lucky. 2069 01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,880 Speaker 8: It was high school though, like we got in not. 2070 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 5: The best of it all, Yeah, we got it. Like 2071 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,320 Speaker 5: like my cousins who are like ten years younger than 2072 01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,639 Speaker 5: I am, Like they have no idea what we're talking about. 2073 01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,080 Speaker 5: I had. That's upsetting, Like that's too bad. 2074 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:16,040 Speaker 8: I had cassettes I had. We had the Pilot, the Pirrating, 2075 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 8: Lime Wire, Days, My Day, the Best and then Streaming 2076 01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:26,280 Speaker 8: still that Napster like. 2077 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,240 Speaker 5: The Too Big. Yeah, but you know we had that. 2078 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,600 Speaker 5: You know I bought, We bought c ds we like 2079 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,400 Speaker 5: I had. I had a cassette player. I think the 2080 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,320 Speaker 5: eminem Show. I had it on the cassette. 2081 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were going to cassette single. 2082 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 2: I bought a couple of cassette singles. 2083 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,640 Speaker 3: It's crazy. I had Return of the Mac so I 2084 01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:44,439 Speaker 3: saw the single. 2085 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,439 Speaker 4: I remember the Parties first cassette. It was the Partridges fan. 2086 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:50,960 Speaker 5: I think I Love You? 2087 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:51,880 Speaker 2: Isn't that. 2088 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,160 Speaker 8: I was singing in the last couple of episodes. 2089 01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 5: My parents are Partridge family people. We listened to that 2090 01:32:59,280 --> 01:32:59,559 Speaker 5: a lot. 2091 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever bought a CD. I had 2092 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:03,760 Speaker 3: a million of them, but I didn't buy it. 2093 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,240 Speaker 5: It was the worst because you had the CD the 2094 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 5: portable CD player, but then you also had to bring 2095 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,160 Speaker 5: all your CDs with you, so you had a case with. 2096 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 8: It was such a back burning your own yeah, stealing 2097 01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 8: the music from lime wire, burning your own CD and 2098 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 8: then writing and sharp. 2099 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:22,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2100 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 5: My sister had had like a CD burner that my 2101 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,880 Speaker 5: parents bought her for like a present, and we would 2102 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 5: do that all like all the time, just and then 2103 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 5: we'd have to write like what you like on it? 2104 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:33,680 Speaker 5: Like what you put on it? 2105 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,280 Speaker 19: And yeah, I mean you did CDs, but we would 2106 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,200 Speaker 19: make mixtape but you don't do that, like do people 2107 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 19: do like my mix for you that used to playst 2108 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,560 Speaker 19: but but is the comments will be like, oh, I 2109 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,120 Speaker 19: want to make a playlist for my girlfriend. 2110 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 3: Somebody have a question. Yeah, So when you drove out 2111 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 3: to Western mass did you do so with the mixed tape? 2112 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,720 Speaker 8: Do you burn that girl? 2113 01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,759 Speaker 3: One hundred percent? I got thousand percent had like driving 2114 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:07,479 Speaker 3: out to see Lory mix, you know, like I didn't 2115 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,080 Speaker 3: even I wasn't even thinking in the movies for you 2116 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:11,080 Speaker 3: to get in the moon. 2117 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 4: Like a mixed driving out Glory mixed to get you 2118 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:15,160 Speaker 4: in the move. 2119 01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 5: It's better than the Depot, little Marvin gay On there. 2120 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 3: Like it might have been a little emo. 2121 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 4: So I had a playlist called corn and Corns, Corny Yeah, 2122 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,280 Speaker 4: and Gordon Lightfoot in the Carpenter. 2123 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,839 Speaker 8: I Love the Carpenters. That was one of my first cassettes. 2124 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:43,200 Speaker 2: What What what Paul good stuff. It was all like 2125 01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 2: corny stuff. 2126 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:50,320 Speaker 3: So the Coppenter's right, Richard Coppenter used to I've seen, 2127 01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:54,000 Speaker 3: like again these documentaries that you watch, and he was like, yeah, 2128 01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, everybody made fun of it, but everybody had it, 2129 01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:58,639 Speaker 3: and they knew the words. 2130 01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,519 Speaker 2: Everybody knew all the. 2131 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,360 Speaker 3: We would you would be in concert and everybody sang 2132 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,400 Speaker 3: every song, but no one could ever admit that they 2133 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,680 Speaker 3: liked it. No one ever admitted that they wanted it. 2134 01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 7: But it's like back now, all these albums that we sold, 2135 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 7: like yeah, Nickelback, is that you were able to but 2136 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,000 Speaker 7: sure enough to not sure what the public perception was 2137 01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,920 Speaker 7: My corn mixed I learned when I brought up all 2138 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,960 Speaker 7: this music stuff. Apparently Nickelback is like cool now like 2139 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,560 Speaker 7: when we were when I was growing up, Nickelback. 2140 01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,000 Speaker 5: Was corn like. That was like, look at this photograph, 2141 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,320 Speaker 5: like it's like, come on, Like, but like, now. 2142 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,960 Speaker 8: He's an objectively good musician and songwriter. 2143 01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's not. It's just when we were 2144 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,280 Speaker 5: growing up that was like if you listen to Nickelback, 2145 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:39,080 Speaker 5: you were kind of. 2146 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,720 Speaker 8: I never subscribed to that. I was alternative vire. 2147 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:42,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2148 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,559 Speaker 8: I was like, no, I think this is pretty, but 2149 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,760 Speaker 8: I liked the goo goo dolls. I liked that kind 2150 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 8: of Yeah. 2151 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 5: I mean like Creed was a little cooler, like if 2152 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 5: you were you know, that was a little bit better Cowboys, right, 2153 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I make one of the best halftime shows 2154 01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,840 Speaker 5: of all time, easily top five. 2155 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 3: Will's been getting into that Creed Yeah, stuff like that 2156 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,720 Speaker 3: reads great. You had all the screen stuff, the. 2157 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 8: Kids, Yeah, having a moment on open. 2158 01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 5: Yeah so. 2159 01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:11,559 Speaker 9: Bad. 2160 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 2: Oh god classic. 2161 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,880 Speaker 4: Tyler and George just says, hey, Paul, the jerk route 2162 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:17,879 Speaker 4: call they're all out. 2163 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:23,360 Speaker 3: Of you that there was a reference to my jerk, right. 2164 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,320 Speaker 4: I like Tyler and Ludlow, big props to the email 2165 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,400 Speaker 4: of that just called out Evan for calling Sandstorm dubstep. 2166 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,439 Speaker 2: Dubstep call whatever you want. 2167 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 5: I don't care. 2168 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,519 Speaker 2: Dubstep is a subgenre of electronic. 2169 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 5: Thank You, Sandstorm. 2170 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:43,679 Speaker 4: Falls into the trance subgenre. If an electronic song doesn't 2171 01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,560 Speaker 4: have rubs and wobbles, it isn't dubstep. 2172 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 3: Okay, whoa who like that kind of stuff? 2173 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,000 Speaker 5: Is that they played Sandstorm it's all there's no there's 2174 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,600 Speaker 5: no lyrics, it's it's just a beat. And then you 2175 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,519 Speaker 5: would like mosh pit in the middle of the dance 2176 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 5: for and all, and it was we would all just 2177 01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 5: like you know, tackle each other like. 2178 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 3: Tsunami kind of Tsunami and Tsunami. 2179 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,160 Speaker 7: They did a big thing of the Army Navy game 2180 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,720 Speaker 7: where they started playing Tami and maybe. 2181 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:14,600 Speaker 3: What we think of like daft punk, how would we 2182 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 3: classify that? 2183 01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,240 Speaker 2: Like, what is that electronic? 2184 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:18,599 Speaker 5: Alt rock? 2185 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:23,799 Speaker 2: Alt rock? I would say so, Tony says, Evan couldn't 2186 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:25,960 Speaker 2: be more wrong here. That step is more in the 2187 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:26,439 Speaker 2: vein of. 2188 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:31,640 Speaker 4: Skill wreck, skill skrill ex crillis Sandstorm is more of 2189 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,480 Speaker 4: a trance song. Also, the disrespect for two thousands alternative 2190 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,280 Speaker 4: is a shame. I love me some Simon and Garfunkel, 2191 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,360 Speaker 4: James Taylor, and Abba, but no era of music is 2192 01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:45,479 Speaker 4: stronger than the nineties to two thousands alt indie eighties 2193 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,040 Speaker 4: takes the cake as the worst pop music era. 2194 01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,320 Speaker 2: Hair bands and ballads are awful, So. 2195 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:57,120 Speaker 3: Pushed back on how you can if you like all 2196 01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,720 Speaker 3: different kinds of like Prince Heyday is the eighties and 2197 01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,160 Speaker 3: being extremely disrespectful to me to one of the most 2198 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 3: Michael Jackson. These are some of the most iconic artist 2199 01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,800 Speaker 3: sever These are like heart of the eighties, Madonna, like 2200 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,600 Speaker 3: even Madonna. Yeah, like that's I mean, if you like 2201 01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:19,719 Speaker 3: allies better, like that's that's perfectly acceptable, like the nineties 2202 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,320 Speaker 3: all like that's what you like. But to say that 2203 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 3: there was nothing in the eighties is ridiculous. 2204 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,080 Speaker 5: I love the eighties music. I have lots of great 2205 01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 5: songs in the eighties. 2206 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,840 Speaker 7: Let's Go Crazy like Prince Let's Go Crazy is like 2207 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,640 Speaker 7: an incredible song. Yeah, you won't get any pushback on 2208 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:41,400 Speaker 7: calling Prince a genius from the from the music recently. 2209 01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,559 Speaker 5: Telling you I've been getting into Prince. Not that I 2210 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,639 Speaker 5: didn't know Prince before, but I got some bangers. 2211 01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:48,160 Speaker 11: Yeah. 2212 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely, he was not familiar with his game. No, I wasn't. 2213 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 5: You weren't familiar with Prince. I was familiar, but I wasn't. 2214 01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,880 Speaker 8: On the peripherals. But now he's really diving deep. 2215 01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, showing itself. 2216 01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,559 Speaker 4: Burnton speaking of Nickelback, he says his vote for hype 2217 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,840 Speaker 4: song is burn It Down by Nickelback. 2218 01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 2219 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,360 Speaker 5: I think it's funny how it's going to come back. 2220 01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:10,559 Speaker 5: It really has. 2221 01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:12,719 Speaker 3: I thought he was going to like be like, how's 2222 01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,479 Speaker 3: Marcus Jones looking out there? Yeah, get tied to tie 2223 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,720 Speaker 3: it back to think they've given up. Guess not. I 2224 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,040 Speaker 3: like the music talk because I think it's so subjective. 2225 01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 3: It's what you like, and you know. 2226 01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,240 Speaker 7: That's how I feel about music. I hate, like usually 2227 01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 7: hate when people are like, who are your favorite bands? 2228 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,240 Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't know, it's kind of personal, like 2229 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:31,960 Speaker 7: I I you know, certainly I like a lot of 2230 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,160 Speaker 7: famous stuff that everybody likes. 2231 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:34,600 Speaker 3: But I also I just like, I don't know. I 2232 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:35,880 Speaker 3: like what I like, and I don't need to sit 2233 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,679 Speaker 3: here and argue with why it's good or not. Yeah, 2234 01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:39,600 Speaker 3: And remember we used to argue with Hardy all the 2235 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,320 Speaker 3: time about that because he would get mad at us, 2236 01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:43,720 Speaker 3: you know, because we didn't treat it the same way 2237 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,519 Speaker 3: he did, you know, like it was important. 2238 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:50,439 Speaker 5: But in Sandstorm Dubsteppers. 2239 01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:53,320 Speaker 7: Right like, I feel like I'm woefully uninformed, like I 2240 01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,719 Speaker 7: don't know all the different Well you should listen show no, no, no, I'm. 2241 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,439 Speaker 2: Talking about about the music. Just a play it. 2242 01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,519 Speaker 5: He doesn't just hear it, he listens to hear. 2243 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, I listened to songs and I'd be like, 2244 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 3: oh I like that. Oh I don't like that, Oh 2245 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,960 Speaker 3: I like that. Like I don't necessarily say I like 2246 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:16,120 Speaker 3: this sub section of some other like random, you know, 2247 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,160 Speaker 3: group of song. I don't, But I don't. I don't 2248 01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,120 Speaker 3: because I can't be put in the box because I 2249 01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:22,800 Speaker 3: don't know what the box is. You just like what 2250 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,000 Speaker 3: you like. And like when you were talking, what is 2251 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,800 Speaker 3: it that you called sandstone dub dub step. 2252 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,680 Speaker 2: I've never heard that term in my life. 2253 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 5: Ill apparently I don't know anything about it. 2254 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,160 Speaker 7: So I'm just going to so I couldn't tell you 2255 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:36,760 Speaker 7: if I like dump step or I don't. 2256 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,240 Speaker 2: I do like house music. 2257 01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,519 Speaker 8: I like how house music in a while. 2258 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,200 Speaker 5: I mean like like clarity like that. 2259 01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at my like that, Fred likes 2260 01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,599 Speaker 2: that really? Oh yeah, driving up from the Cakes. 2261 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,160 Speaker 8: Not like is it like house music or is it? 2262 01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,840 Speaker 2: Like I like I said, I like that, I like. 2263 01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:02,000 Speaker 4: The Yeah, when we were we were in Germany. 2264 01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:03,920 Speaker 7: We were in that club in Germany and friends like, 2265 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,520 Speaker 7: all right, we gotta go, let's go, we gotta. 2266 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:11,080 Speaker 5: Go, Like this Gibson after Dark was and now it's time. 2267 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 5: It was a great time. 2268 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 3: Best German television. 2269 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,120 Speaker 2: That's Justin corrects me. 2270 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,640 Speaker 4: And the last show I talked about a script that uh, 2271 01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:29,679 Speaker 4: Schwarzenegger tricked Stallone into accepting. I said it was Cobra, 2272 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,519 Speaker 4: but Justin says it was stop or my mom will shoot. 2273 01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:37,720 Speaker 4: Oh geez, that makes I think schwarz Yeah, it's like 2274 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:38,280 Speaker 4: throw off. 2275 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 2: That was an awful movie. 2276 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,920 Speaker 3: Stop or my mom will shoot? Who played the mom? 2277 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:44,680 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it was. 2278 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:46,519 Speaker 10: Whatever. 2279 01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:50,000 Speaker 7: Let's say Swarts and your turned down Cobra, especially with 2280 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,840 Speaker 7: that villain, that's a big mistake. 2281 01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,400 Speaker 4: Linda writes, and I don't know what she's talking about. 2282 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 4: She says, you may have covered this already. I've been 2283 01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,200 Speaker 4: reading on social media that Tom Brady will her and 2284 01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 4: as general manager. 2285 01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,400 Speaker 2: General manager. Wonder if it's true. 2286 01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:07,200 Speaker 8: Okay, there's some fake news going around the Raiders or US. 2287 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 8: There's some stuff, a fake news graphic going around because 2288 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,599 Speaker 8: my grandma, who barely speaks a look of English, sent 2289 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:18,160 Speaker 8: me the other day, Oh, Tom Braid he's coming to 2290 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,160 Speaker 8: join the ownership. And I was like, no, he's a 2291 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:22,920 Speaker 8: part owner of the Raiders. And he's like, Oh, that's 2292 01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:24,000 Speaker 8: what Facebook said. 2293 01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,719 Speaker 5: That's what just happens all the time. My dad will. 2294 01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 8: It's a fake graphic. 2295 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,640 Speaker 2: Let's see Mitch and Saratoga. 2296 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to be in town on Saturday for post malone, 2297 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,960 Speaker 4: and I'm wondering what the best place to eat dinner 2298 01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:42,679 Speaker 4: around town is any type of food? 2299 01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:49,120 Speaker 20: Well, for you in Boston is a million town is Yeah, 2300 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,519 Speaker 20: So if he means Foxborough, there's you know, Davio's, There's 2301 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,000 Speaker 20: all the restaurants at Patrio Place. 2302 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 4: There's Luciano's down the street. If you want the best nachos, 2303 01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:58,600 Speaker 4: go to four in Franklin. 2304 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:01,200 Speaker 2: Really yeah, I. 2305 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,840 Speaker 3: Think I've been there. I think I've been there. 2306 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,600 Speaker 7: Nas are off in my celebration meal, like and I 2307 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 7: was really desperate for an apartment. 2308 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 2: In l A. 2309 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:10,920 Speaker 7: And I finally got one, and I was like, I'm 2310 01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,840 Speaker 7: going out for nacho. I just chew myself to a 2311 01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:13,800 Speaker 7: big ass plated chicken. 2312 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,760 Speaker 2: Is pretty good. Yeah. 2313 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,040 Speaker 3: I usually I like to wait about a month or so, 2314 01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:23,080 Speaker 3: let them work out the kinks. 2315 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,640 Speaker 7: With new restaurants. I don't want to go charge it 2316 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,320 Speaker 7: into new places because the barbecue players, like you feel bad. 2317 01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,280 Speaker 7: They're overwhelmed, they don't have stuff yet, and you don't 2318 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 7: want to judge it while they're still getting a going, 2319 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:31,400 Speaker 7: you know. 2320 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:35,559 Speaker 8: Seeing barbecue. I was at Robert T. Lynch yesterday, the 2321 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:40,200 Speaker 8: golf course in Brookline. Fancy and it's not that fancy, 2322 01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:44,320 Speaker 8: but uh, anyways, long story short, some of the best 2323 01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,400 Speaker 8: fried chicken I've ever had in the entire state. I 2324 01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:51,080 Speaker 8: had the clubhouse restaurants called the Hemlock Grill, and they 2325 01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 8: had like a barbecue smoker going the whole time. I 2326 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,439 Speaker 8: didn't try the barbecue, but the fried chicken was so 2327 01:43:56,479 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 8: freaking good that I want to try the barbecue. But 2328 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:01,640 Speaker 8: also it's one of those things where it's like, I 2329 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 8: don't know if I could ever not get that fried 2330 01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:03,799 Speaker 8: chicken sandwich. 2331 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:05,200 Speaker 2: Oh it's a sandwich. 2332 01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,559 Speaker 8: Well, they have fried chicken. They have fried chicken sandwiches, 2333 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,080 Speaker 8: they have. I got a Nashville Hot one. 2334 01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,800 Speaker 4: It was so so if you like fried chicken, like 2335 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,680 Speaker 4: off the bone, like real fried chicken, and sham on 2336 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:19,840 Speaker 4: the cake, okay, seafood salms and sandwich on Friday. On 2337 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,320 Speaker 4: the weekends they have a fried chicken dinner. You have 2338 01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 4: to wait a little longer because it's made to order. Decadent. 2339 01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 4: It's decadent. Yeah. Yeah, so with all places seafood sands 2340 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:32,679 Speaker 4: for the fried Well, that's why. 2341 01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,800 Speaker 8: I was confused about this golf course having randomly like 2342 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:41,720 Speaker 8: a delicious scratched chicken good Southern barbecue chicken. 2343 01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:45,160 Speaker 4: Mitch and Saratago also reminds me that and a lot 2344 01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,880 Speaker 4: of people have sent this in. He was playing connections 2345 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,719 Speaker 4: in the New York Times and the first two words 2346 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:55,120 Speaker 4: were Chicago Pope, but also in that same one was 2347 01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:59,120 Speaker 4: Rocky and Gladiator. Right, Oh, is that me or you? 2348 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 2: You? I don't know, why is I usually never have 2349 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,320 Speaker 2: this answer. No, I'm not gonna answer. I'll put him on. 2350 01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,320 Speaker 2: I'll put him on there. 2351 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,559 Speaker 5: We definitely got some some people, uh, some terminator people 2352 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,120 Speaker 5: that were standing their ground on our discussion. 2353 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, but people were convinced that whoever did that day's 2354 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,040 Speaker 4: connection for the New York Times listens to our show. 2355 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,000 Speaker 2: But Chicago Pope was kind of in the news, So 2356 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,559 Speaker 2: I don't know about the other stuff. Yeah, they have 2357 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:29,200 Speaker 2: Rocky in. 2358 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 3: The Chicago Pope. I just I wonder where they came 2359 01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:32,960 Speaker 3: up with that. 2360 01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,240 Speaker 5: Right the same place that we came up with it. 2361 01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:42,439 Speaker 4: People just upset with Evan good I like making people upset. 2362 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:47,160 Speaker 4: Kevin and Dublin says, Evan just described daft punk as 2363 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,759 Speaker 4: alt rock. Does he think Metallica is techno? How about 2364 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,960 Speaker 4: the jazz virtue also known as Marilyn Manson or a 2365 01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:55,840 Speaker 4: great trans group called the Beatles. 2366 01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:59,919 Speaker 2: So sorry, you've got to learn your genres. 2367 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,760 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry you don't know, but you. 2368 01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,120 Speaker 3: So How would we describe daft punk? I don't know, 2369 01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,040 Speaker 3: like I mean, like like trying. I only say this, 2370 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:11,760 Speaker 3: there's great I would think of it. 2371 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:13,400 Speaker 8: I don't know the difference. 2372 01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:17,479 Speaker 7: There's amazing videos on the online and the internets where 2373 01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:21,200 Speaker 7: they show the like the music, and they go and 2374 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,439 Speaker 7: and how dapt punk like cut little pieces of all 2375 01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,880 Speaker 7: the different songs to like make something like get Lucky. 2376 01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,439 Speaker 7: And it's just the most random little nuggets of sound 2377 01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,920 Speaker 7: from so many weird songs that some you've heard of, 2378 01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,920 Speaker 7: some you haven't, And they somehow put all these pieces together, 2379 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,920 Speaker 7: slow some of them downsteet some and all of a sudden, 2380 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:38,519 Speaker 7: it's like and then they hit playing all of them 2381 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 7: once and you're like, oh, that's get lucky. 2382 01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 3: Like I don't even know how those guys do what 2383 01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:42,240 Speaker 3: they do. 2384 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:47,559 Speaker 4: Crazy Jesse Justin says, I'm right there with Evan about Prince. 2385 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,400 Speaker 4: I thought for years it was some clone of Michael Jackson. 2386 01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,719 Speaker 4: Then I started to listen to him, and I realized 2387 01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 4: why the Olds love Purple Rain. 2388 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:57,200 Speaker 2: It's not even you an. 2389 01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 5: Old is a great song, but I like the album. 2390 01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,519 Speaker 5: I already know the whole album, okay, Like I already 2391 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 5: knew the song Purple Rain, like I was getting into 2392 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:07,160 Speaker 5: more of the deep cuts. 2393 01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:07,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2394 01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,000 Speaker 8: He was pretty brilliant when it came to like the 2395 01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,599 Speaker 8: business side of things too, which I didn't realize until recently. 2396 01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,479 Speaker 5: I just like have a like for like performers, like 2397 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,960 Speaker 5: he like would like bring the house. He was and 2398 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,559 Speaker 5: he was a musician and he was so yeah, Like 2399 01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:25,240 Speaker 5: it wasn't like he was just standing up there. 2400 01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:25,559 Speaker 2: You know. 2401 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:30,280 Speaker 7: You can know you enjoyed Manlo last night he put 2402 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,520 Speaker 7: on a show, Ben and Brooklyn. 2403 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,479 Speaker 4: He says, not all eighties, he said, not all eighties 2404 01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,680 Speaker 4: music is new wave. Tears for Fears wrote songs with 2405 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,160 Speaker 4: compelling lyrics and imaginative guitars. Their songs have been covered 2406 01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:48,040 Speaker 4: a lot over the years. I was singing, everyone wants 2407 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,600 Speaker 4: in the world, just this morning in the shower. 2408 01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:58,360 Speaker 3: Just everybody too, thank you for that. Yeah, just just 2409 01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,000 Speaker 3: just this morning. 2410 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,000 Speaker 4: See, everyone wants to talk about music now, so let's 2411 01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 4: let them talk about music. 2412 01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,640 Speaker 2: Let's see who is this? I don't know. 2413 01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,320 Speaker 4: It says I've got a lot of problems with you people, 2414 01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 4: and now you're going to hear about it. I've now 2415 01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:20,080 Speaker 4: heard two of the most egregious takes ever when it 2416 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,960 Speaker 4: comes to music on this podcast. First, during the emergency 2417 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,160 Speaker 4: podcast when Mayo was fired, Paul said Stevie Nicks was 2418 01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,519 Speaker 4: Fleetwood Mac and as big a Fleetwood Mac fan as 2419 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,920 Speaker 4: I am a Patriot fan. This is unacceptable by Paul. 2420 01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,320 Speaker 4: Many of their biggest hits were sung by. 2421 01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:40,000 Speaker 2: The late great Christine mcviee and Lindsey Buckingham was critical 2422 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,479 Speaker 2: to their sound too. And then multiple panelists take Neil 2423 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,720 Speaker 2: Diamond over James Taylor. I disavowed this sacrilege and urge 2424 01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:48,519 Speaker 2: you to do the same. 2425 01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:53,160 Speaker 7: Fred, so I would say that the Fleetwood Mac I 2426 01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 7: agree with the Fleetwood MA. 2427 01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 8: Well, I also picked James Taylor, so I would guess 2428 01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:57,400 Speaker 8: I agree. 2429 01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:58,120 Speaker 5: With the thing. 2430 01:48:58,200 --> 01:48:59,920 Speaker 3: I can totally hear that the other. 2431 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,600 Speaker 5: Side, Break the Chain is one of their best songs. 2432 01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 3: But they and they were all a huge part, Like 2433 01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:06,800 Speaker 3: Fleetwood Mac would not have been the same without any 2434 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:08,200 Speaker 3: of john the members and. 2435 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 8: Their drama was so crucial to it all correct. 2436 01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,280 Speaker 3: Which is kind of why I made the pin. I 2437 01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,640 Speaker 3: just feel like Stevie Nicks was the best of and 2438 01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,599 Speaker 3: maybe I misspoke by saying she was Fleetwood Mac. That's 2439 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,800 Speaker 3: probably strong, so I can totally take the criticism there. 2440 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,120 Speaker 3: The other one is just like your preference. But I 2441 01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,559 Speaker 3: think they think James Taylor has a million great songs. 2442 01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,120 Speaker 3: I would rather see Neil Diamond in concert than James 2443 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:30,320 Speaker 3: Taylor and Fleetwood Mac had. 2444 01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:33,120 Speaker 7: I think everybody else had solo projects, but nobody did 2445 01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,720 Speaker 7: Leather and Lace, right, Like that's Stevie Nicks, like she 2446 01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 7: she had like the solo she. 2447 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,320 Speaker 3: Had them one with Don Henley too. She had great 2448 01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:44,240 Speaker 3: great duets. That was because of Jimmy Iovine, who was 2449 01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,639 Speaker 3: her boyfriend at the time, and he cherry picked all 2450 01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,080 Speaker 3: these like duets for her to do and he interested. 2451 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:54,160 Speaker 3: That's how her solo career really kind of Bella Donna came. 2452 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:55,400 Speaker 3: I think around that time. 2453 01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,320 Speaker 2: Get to some VH one Behind the Music. 2454 01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,840 Speaker 3: Another documentary. Maybe you should call to yourself and do 2455 01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:02,200 Speaker 3: something other than watch the papers. 2456 01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,000 Speaker 4: I just listen to Hearty Show and I get all 2457 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:08,679 Speaker 4: the info because he talks about the songs Jasper and Portland. 2458 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,160 Speaker 4: Rumor has it that the MBTA will be upgrading the 2459 01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:16,040 Speaker 4: Foxborough commuter rail station to develop world standards and anticipation 2460 01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:17,759 Speaker 4: of FIFA, which is great news. 2461 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:19,800 Speaker 3: That sounds good, Okay. 2462 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,000 Speaker 4: In addition to that, I think Craft should pay for 2463 01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:26,799 Speaker 4: additional trains on game days to ease off pressure on traffic, 2464 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,519 Speaker 4: cut down on dois. 2465 01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:30,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. 2466 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,600 Speaker 4: I would take a train if I didn't, if it 2467 01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 4: didn't show up so close to kickoff and leave so 2468 01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:36,040 Speaker 4: soon after. 2469 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:39,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, the afterpart is a tough It's hard to thread 2470 01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:41,040 Speaker 7: the needle. It's just a little intimidating where you're like 2471 01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,639 Speaker 7: you got to get the train out and there's only 2472 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,960 Speaker 7: a specific time you can come in, especially if you're. 2473 01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,240 Speaker 2: Making it great to have multiples. 2474 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:49,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, it should come down this far on a 2475 01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,479 Speaker 8: more regular basis. I feel like I feel like it 2476 01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,440 Speaker 8: goes so far north every day on a regular schedule. 2477 01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Tough Party. You can take the tea to Lowell. 2478 01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:01,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe they pump in Pup Game Show into the train. 2479 01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's been said, but if you 2480 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,760 Speaker 2: could get a licensed edit of Dire Straits Money for 2481 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:10,120 Speaker 2: Nothing without stings singing about MTV into the intro in 2482 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:15,080 Speaker 2: the riff, that would go so hard during games, so hard. 2483 01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:19,360 Speaker 7: We can't do, like I sing, we can't play any music, right, Like, 2484 01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,240 Speaker 7: there's nothing we can do on the show because it's 2485 01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:22,240 Speaker 7: you can sing it illegal? 2486 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:22,479 Speaker 2: Right? 2487 01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,040 Speaker 3: But even that I heard, it's like, is it well? 2488 01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:25,320 Speaker 2: We heard? 2489 01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:25,639 Speaker 5: I heard? 2490 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:26,519 Speaker 2: I mean, we heard a story. 2491 01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,120 Speaker 8: You could argue parody if you're singing it. 2492 01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:30,400 Speaker 3: At least they got in trouble on ESPN for singing 2493 01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:31,200 Speaker 3: Happy Birthday? 2494 01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:34,280 Speaker 8: How is that not in public domain? 2495 01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:34,800 Speaker 1: Right? 2496 01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,160 Speaker 3: That's that's the story, and I'm sticking to it. 2497 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,799 Speaker 7: You know, maybe it was you know, exaggerated to persuade 2498 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:42,800 Speaker 7: us from ever doing it. 2499 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,799 Speaker 8: But how is the happy Birthday song not in public domain? 2500 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:47,680 Speaker 8: Who wrote that? 2501 01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:55,799 Speaker 5: They're definitely talking about you, Royalty? 2502 01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:57,479 Speaker 3: Is that Matt Smith? This good stuff? 2503 01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:57,720 Speaker 2: Is that? 2504 01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:58,240 Speaker 5: No song? 2505 01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,880 Speaker 3: No song, no socks? Enjoyed himself. He must have been 2506 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,439 Speaker 3: in his own did he have a beer with a 2507 01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 3: hole in it? He did not. No, No, that's enjoy it. 2508 01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,479 Speaker 3: No he did not. It was Wednesday. That stuff to do. 2509 01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:11,080 Speaker 5: No socks. 2510 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:11,439 Speaker 2: I mean. 2511 01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,120 Speaker 4: Some way, Steven rally is a football question. If the 2512 01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,360 Speaker 4: defense is in the top ten or twelve, how good 2513 01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,519 Speaker 4: does the offense need to be to be relevant or 2514 01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 4: viable for playoff contention? 2515 01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:23,599 Speaker 2: In what. 2516 01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:27,040 Speaker 3: Top ten or twelve? 2517 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:31,080 Speaker 2: In what points allowed? So where? Like? 2518 01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:32,840 Speaker 3: Where have they been in recent years? 2519 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,120 Speaker 5: They were in the twenties. Last year they were not good. 2520 01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:37,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, the year before they were. 2521 01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,479 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think any I don't know. I'm 2522 01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,479 Speaker 3: making up points. The offense has to be good. I 2523 01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:43,280 Speaker 3: don't think it really. I mean, I think the offense 2524 01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:44,960 Speaker 3: needs to be good. There are I don't care how 2525 01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:46,680 Speaker 3: good the defense is. If you can't score, you're not 2526 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:47,800 Speaker 3: gonna win a lot of games. 2527 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,960 Speaker 7: We talked about this last year where there's like there's 2528 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,920 Speaker 7: like it's not like great defenses that win championships. I mean, 2529 01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,160 Speaker 7: like there's certainly defenses that peak at the right time, 2530 01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:58,360 Speaker 7: but you just need to be able to say we 2531 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,600 Speaker 7: have a good enough team to win. To win the 2532 01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,040 Speaker 7: Super Bowl, the offense has to be the driver to 2533 01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:03,559 Speaker 7: get there. 2534 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:04,040 Speaker 2: And win the game. 2535 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,320 Speaker 3: You know, I think if you have a good offense, 2536 01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,120 Speaker 3: you know, there's probably twenty eight teams that have a 2537 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:09,920 Speaker 3: good enough defense to win the Super Bowl if. 2538 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,600 Speaker 5: They were twenty first last year and twenty four and 2539 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:16,559 Speaker 5: a half points per game allowed, So better than that? 2540 01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,520 Speaker 2: What about over just is there an overall defense. 2541 01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:23,360 Speaker 5: Bout the yards? Technically? I hate that anymore. 2542 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,919 Speaker 2: We don't do that right Matthew and Arizona. 2543 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,680 Speaker 4: I remember buying Green Day Dookie on cassette tape and 2544 01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,840 Speaker 4: strawberries in nineteen ninety four. Anyway, I feel like we 2545 01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:37,120 Speaker 4: need a from Red to Blue mini series covering the 2546 01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:40,720 Speaker 4: Patriots from nineteen sixty to nineteen ninety nine. There's a 2547 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,120 Speaker 4: lot of great history with the team not covered. You 2548 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,160 Speaker 4: get generations that need to know. 2549 01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:48,280 Speaker 2: What came before, like the injury of Darryl Stingley, for example, 2550 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,439 Speaker 2: Jim Plunkett, Steve Grogan, et cetera. 2551 01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:53,759 Speaker 5: I agree with that. I don't think that there's anything 2552 01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,680 Speaker 5: out there, and I know their history isn't as decorated 2553 01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,599 Speaker 5: as like the Celtics history or whatever terms of winning, 2554 01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,599 Speaker 5: but I think there's a lot of really great players. 2555 01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,479 Speaker 5: You know, John Hannas Stanley Morgan. 2556 01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:06,240 Speaker 7: So I've been talking to I mean, that's kind of 2557 01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:07,840 Speaker 7: why I want to do just a little something with 2558 01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,840 Speaker 7: the eighty five team, because I've said it many times, 2559 01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:12,519 Speaker 7: but going back and watching the team and like the 2560 01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:14,920 Speaker 7: TV copy and listening to the announcers talk, and you 2561 01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,200 Speaker 7: really experience the games, you know, as a fan, you 2562 01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:19,360 Speaker 7: get to know the team in a way that you know, 2563 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,960 Speaker 7: you could have told me, oh, Raymond Claiborne, sure he played, 2564 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,479 Speaker 7: I know. Then I watched the games and like, this 2565 01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:26,400 Speaker 7: guy was an outstanding cornerback. I mean they wouldn't even 2566 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,559 Speaker 7: throw at him, you know, those kind of things. I 2567 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,160 Speaker 7: totally agree with the email that there's a there were, 2568 01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,360 Speaker 7: you know there with the seventy six team, what was 2569 01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:37,640 Speaker 7: really good fell short in Oakland, within Oakland at that point. 2570 01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:41,600 Speaker 3: I got the eighty five team the ninety six team. 2571 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:43,839 Speaker 7: Which I got refreshed a little bit reading about parcels 2572 01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,040 Speaker 7: as well. You know, there were It wasn't a straight line, 2573 01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:48,720 Speaker 7: but you can kind of connect some of the dots 2574 01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,480 Speaker 7: to each decade and a real quick aside. I mean, 2575 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,320 Speaker 7: you guys, like eighties they went to a Super Bowl, 2576 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,440 Speaker 7: Nineties they went to a Super Bowl oughts they went 2577 01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,080 Speaker 7: to a Super Bowl. Teams they went to a Super 2578 01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,760 Speaker 7: Bowl were now twenty twenty five, Like this could be 2579 01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 7: the first time since the nineteen seventies that the Patriotic 2580 01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,600 Speaker 7: Station deduced Super Bowl turning up the pressure on Mike Vrabel, 2581 01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:07,400 Speaker 7: Mike your move. 2582 01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 2: You got five years. 2583 01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,680 Speaker 5: But like I feel like now that we've were post 2584 01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:15,360 Speaker 5: Brady and my generation has had a little bit of 2585 01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:17,840 Speaker 5: taste of it not winning every single year, Like you 2586 01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:21,240 Speaker 5: have a new appreciation for did some of those older 2587 01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:25,320 Speaker 5: Patriots teams before Brady that like the nineties teams and 2588 01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,280 Speaker 5: stuff like that, that were really good teams that now 2589 01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:29,600 Speaker 5: if you told me that we were going to be 2590 01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 5: the ninety six Patriots, you would take that into heartbeat, right. 2591 01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,880 Speaker 3: So the ninety six Patriots were a pretty good team. Yeah, 2592 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,760 Speaker 3: Like the eighty five team was okay, it was a 2593 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,680 Speaker 3: playoff caliber team. The ninety six team was a super 2594 01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:44,480 Speaker 3: Bowl caliber team. They probably would have lost in Denver 2595 01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,800 Speaker 3: had Denver not gotten upset by Jacksonville. Denver was better 2596 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,760 Speaker 3: than the Patriots that year, but they were super Bowl worthy. 2597 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:56,240 Speaker 3: They just weren't quite good enough that day against green Bay. 2598 01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,120 Speaker 3: Green Bay was better and they kicked it. That's what 2599 01:55:58,400 --> 01:55:58,960 Speaker 3: kind of happened. 2600 01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,640 Speaker 7: So that's I mean watching there's so many parallelowing to 2601 01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 7: eighty plus you had touchdown from that eighty fister defense 2602 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:06,840 Speaker 7: to some of the bad Patriots teams. Just like I 2603 01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:10,000 Speaker 7: said it before, where you just see recurring themes within football. 2604 01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,040 Speaker 7: Even though the game is completely different than it was 2605 01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,360 Speaker 7: in the eighties, you still understand it's about takeaways, it's 2606 01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,120 Speaker 7: about capitalizing all mistakes. You know, it's being able to 2607 01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:19,440 Speaker 7: run the ball at the end of the game. Those 2608 01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,280 Speaker 7: kind of things like that. There are certain truths that 2609 01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:23,960 Speaker 7: just you see continue to be true. 2610 01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:28,080 Speaker 3: And that team, the ninety six team, you know, they 2611 01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:31,560 Speaker 3: got really banged up in ninety seven. They would have 2612 01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,480 Speaker 3: had a really good chance to get back and they 2613 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,000 Speaker 3: end up losing. You know, Curtis and Terry Glenn and 2614 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:38,720 Speaker 3: all those guys are out in the playoffs. It was 2615 01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:45,080 Speaker 3: basically Drew and Sean Jefferson, I think. But yeah, you 2616 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:46,080 Speaker 3: know why it wasn't enough. 2617 01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:52,760 Speaker 7: Mike Rabel right stripsacker drew seven to six Division around win. 2618 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,640 Speaker 4: David Manila has some music stories. He says, I used 2619 01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,240 Speaker 4: to work at the stadium and other venues as a 2620 01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:03,120 Speaker 4: concert stage hand before I left for the Philippines, and 2621 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:05,480 Speaker 4: that gave me the opportunity to hear all kinds of music. 2622 01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,800 Speaker 4: I grew up with the Beatles, CSNN, Why Aretha before 2623 01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:12,000 Speaker 4: moving on to Aerosmith led Zeppelin, but I've always appreciated 2624 01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:15,000 Speaker 4: hearing new music. I remember working the Madonna show at 2625 01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,640 Speaker 4: Foxboro Stadium and how bad she smelled after the sound check. 2626 01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,600 Speaker 4: I remember the inflatable pig getting stuck on the cable 2627 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:22,600 Speaker 4: in the middle of the show. 2628 01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:24,680 Speaker 2: One time, I took my new bride. 2629 01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:28,360 Speaker 4: Our thirty third anniversaries today just Congratulations to see Elton 2630 01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,520 Speaker 4: John and Billy Joel and we got to see one 2631 01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,240 Speaker 4: of my coworkers fall out of the lighting trust onto 2632 01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:34,440 Speaker 4: the drum riser. 2633 01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:38,120 Speaker 2: Before the show started. She recovered. Thank God. 2634 01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:40,600 Speaker 4: My wife looked at me and said, do you ever 2635 01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:42,560 Speaker 4: do that, to which I said yes, but without the 2636 01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:45,960 Speaker 4: falling part. The next night, I was on duty at 2637 01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,440 Speaker 4: Great Woods and the stage manager had me climb up 2638 01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:51,640 Speaker 4: to the trusk to run the spotlight for Peter Gabriel 2639 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:52,640 Speaker 4: A right times. 2640 01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:53,839 Speaker 3: My wife loves Peter Gabriel. 2641 01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:54,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2642 01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,280 Speaker 7: I think Andy was at that Elton John Billy Joel 2643 01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:58,720 Speaker 7: one that was your nineties. 2644 01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:01,520 Speaker 3: I don't remember think so. 2645 01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:05,160 Speaker 2: Uh Boston Cream. One more question for all of us. 2646 01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:08,120 Speaker 2: If you could play any professional sport for your career, 2647 01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:14,320 Speaker 2: which sport would you pick? And why? Basketball, Golf, hockey, hockey. 2648 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably baseball. 2649 01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,120 Speaker 5: Baseball is probably the best money. 2650 01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:20,920 Speaker 3: Pay damage to the body. 2651 01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:24,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I like basketball kind of friends, and 2652 01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:26,800 Speaker 5: that's I understand why you would pay. 2653 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,440 Speaker 3: Basketball is probably the best pay. 2654 01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Basketball is probably the best combination of pay. 2655 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:35,640 Speaker 4: I would I would take tennis, pay celebrity, really hard 2656 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:36,560 Speaker 4: golf too. 2657 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,800 Speaker 8: As a golf I would want to be a guy. 2658 01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:41,400 Speaker 2: Like the idea, Like. 2659 01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:46,600 Speaker 4: Obviously for any of our answers were really good at it, right, 2660 01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,080 Speaker 4: we're not one of the benchwarmers. 2661 01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:51,480 Speaker 5: Like if I'm like. 2662 01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:54,440 Speaker 4: Top tennis, Like you're traveling all over the world to 2663 01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,080 Speaker 4: these great locations, just staying in four or five star 2664 01:58:57,160 --> 01:59:01,520 Speaker 4: hotels and you're playing tennis, Like what could be better? 2665 01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,160 Speaker 3: But it changes quick if you're like the seventieth rank guys, 2666 01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:04,880 Speaker 3: Well that's what I. 2667 01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:06,960 Speaker 2: Say, Like in any of our answers were really good. 2668 01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if but if you're really good and like 2669 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 3: when you want to be a quarterback or a football team, 2670 01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:13,640 Speaker 3: better than I would like to be. 2671 01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:17,200 Speaker 8: Kind of incognito though, Like I'd like to still go 2672 01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:18,320 Speaker 8: out and like live my life. 2673 01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,560 Speaker 5: That's the problem with basketball players, Like you're like. 2674 01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:24,400 Speaker 2: When you quarterback, you could play the senior Tour and golf. 2675 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,320 Speaker 2: For tennis, you can play the rest of your life. 2676 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,160 Speaker 3: So I totally get the perks of golf and tennis. 2677 01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,960 Speaker 3: I don't know about the individual sport though. Yeah, it's 2678 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:32,720 Speaker 3: really hard to get up. 2679 01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:34,040 Speaker 8: To that caddy on your team. 2680 01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:38,720 Speaker 3: I think I think I enjoyed like sort of the that. 2681 01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:43,200 Speaker 7: Team, the camaraderie, the team team building, like the locker room. 2682 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:46,280 Speaker 2: I would miss that hard on you, Like what was 2683 01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:47,440 Speaker 2: going on in the locker room. 2684 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:48,920 Speaker 3: You don't you worry about it? 2685 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,080 Speaker 2: So no, it's a good question. 2686 01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,720 Speaker 3: It's a great question. Yeah, all right. 2687 01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:58,200 Speaker 2: That's going to be it for this week of Patriots Unfiltered. 2688 01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:00,680 Speaker 2: Let's next week. 2689 02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,840 Speaker 4: We have another motia on Monday, so we'll be out 2690 02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:05,640 Speaker 4: there and then we'll talk about it on Tuesday. 2691 02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:06,720 Speaker 2: We'll see you next Tuesday. 2692 02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:11,680 Speaker 8: Hey, this is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show. 2693 02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,440 Speaker 8: If you really want to help us, make sure you 2694 02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,320 Speaker 8: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get 2695 02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,080 Speaker 8: your podcasts. Also make sure you follow us on the 2696 02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:21,680 Speaker 8: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and 2697 02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:23,640 Speaker 8: everything else we do here at the Patriots. 2698 02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:24,360 Speaker 5: Thanks a lot,