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Speaker 1: NFL leaning towards cancelation of the Bills Bengals game, there's
Speaker 1: no Thursday Night football. We'll talk to Nate Burlson, CBS Morning,
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Speaker 1: two one, Hey, welcome to the program. The momentum is
Speaker 1: building for cancelation of the Bills Bengals game. Mike Florio
Speaker 1: had some great information, so they're talking about the postponement
Speaker 1: of the game. The Bills and the Bengals. They would
Speaker 1: not make it up and play at a later date,
Speaker 1: which I think is smart. I think it's difficult to
Speaker 1: have them come back to Cincinnati play that game. You
Speaker 1: know what is the perfect decision? I don't think we
Speaker 1: have one. If we get better news on DeMar Hamlin,
Speaker 1: it makes it a little bit easier to reschedule that game,
Speaker 1: have them come back and resume that game. Current momentum
Speaker 1: is pointing towards not resuming the game and declaring it
Speaker 1: a no contest. So playoffs seating would then be determined
Speaker 1: based on the outcome of the week eighteen games. What
Speaker 1: that means is the Chiefs would capture the number one
Speaker 1: seed by beating the Raiders on Saturday. The Bills would
Speaker 1: be the top seed by beating the Patriots on Sunday.
Speaker 1: If the Chiefs would lose Saturday, now here's where it
Speaker 1: gets a little more complicated, but stay with me. A
Speaker 1: Bill's loss and a Bengals win over the Ravens Sunday
Speaker 1: would give Cincinnati the number two seed, and the Bengals
Speaker 1: would then secure eclipsing the Bills based on the strength
Speaker 1: of victory tiebreaker. So that would set up a potential
Speaker 1: Bills Bengals game in Cincinnati in the divisional round. And
Speaker 1: looking at this, as you know, you have to look
Speaker 1: at this a variety of ways. You know, you have
Speaker 1: to look at the sensitivity of what's going on, the players,
Speaker 1: are you going to play this game? But also look
Speaker 1: at the business of this, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it comes back to the business of the
Speaker 1: NFL and the pr If you said to the NFL,
Speaker 1: don't have the game, you know, cancel it and maybe
Speaker 1: the Bengals and Bills meet in the playoffs, there's your
Speaker 1: ideal situation there, and you won't catch much heat because
Speaker 1: if you said, hey, we want you guys to come
Speaker 1: back after week eighteen and we're going to resume the game. It,
Speaker 1: you know, a standalone game, well that's that'll be difficult,
Speaker 1: that'll be dangerous, and you don't know the status of
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin. I think the NFL is doing what is right.
Speaker 1: You know, it feels right, at least in my opinion
Speaker 1: that you know, let's not play the game, let's have
Speaker 1: winning percentage, take care of business this weekend. We'll sort
Speaker 1: it all out. It might not seem fair, but then
Speaker 1: sports isn't always fair. Air to the side of caution
Speaker 1: with the health of a player who's still in the hospital,
Speaker 1: and that way the Bills. Let the Bills move forward,
Speaker 1: because if they have to go back to play Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: go back to where this happened. I really think that's
Speaker 1: asking a lot. Let them go forward, play the Patriots game,
Speaker 1: and then kind of see where they stand with all
Speaker 1: of this, and maybe you meet the Bengals in the
Speaker 1: divisional playoff rum. But that's the momentum that is building
Speaker 1: right now. According to Mike Florio, we'll have a poll
Speaker 1: question and our play of the day is coming up.
Speaker 1: I don't know the timeframe of when the NFL will
Speaker 1: officially decide this and rubber stamp it and say we're
Speaker 1: not going to have that game play, but I'm guessing
Speaker 1: you'd probably need to have it later today tomorrow at
Speaker 1: the latest, just to be fair to these teams. But
Speaker 1: as we move forward, having the opportunity to have those
Speaker 1: two teams play again and have a fresh start to that,
Speaker 1: hopefully we get continue to get better news about tomorrow
Speaker 1: Hamlin's health as well. So no Thursday night football, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. I think no Thursday
Speaker 1: night football given everything that's happened is good. Let's just
Speaker 1: focus on the important things here. A player's health coming
Speaker 1: out of the hospital. Hopefully hopefully he gets to see
Speaker 1: all of the donations that have happened to his charity there,
Speaker 1: but his overall safety, the well being of a football
Speaker 1: team trying to kind of put it all together and
Speaker 1: go out there and play a very important game against
Speaker 1: a divisual rival in the Patriots. So that's what we
Speaker 1: have as far as Hamlin, the NFL, the cancelation of
Speaker 1: the Bills Bengals game is feels like it's in the offing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: one Poule question, we were kind of workshopping is yeah, someone,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna be surprised
Speaker 1: tonight when they turn on their TV and there's no
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football or their streaming service and no Thursday football.
Speaker 1: For those who are not in favor of Thursday football
Speaker 1: or whatever health reasons or the schedule or how the
Speaker 1: games aren't they good? Are you gonna be bummed out
Speaker 1: tonight when you're like, oh, that's separate from what happened
Speaker 1: the other night. I'm saying. I think people have come
Speaker 1: to rely on Thursday night football to a point. I
Speaker 1: don't like Thursday night football, but I would miss you
Speaker 1: watch it everywhere? Yeah, yeah, I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: fair to the players to have a Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: I just don't never thought that way, you know. I
Speaker 1: think the quality has improved, but the quality has improved
Speaker 1: because the teams have improved. It. It used to be,
Speaker 1: or at least felt like, hey, who were you gonna
Speaker 1: stick on Thursday night? Now you have some pretty good
Speaker 1: matchups there. But what poll question we're gonna go with today?
Speaker 1: Any suggestions from the back row Seaton? Well, I think
Speaker 1: you guys are just hitting it, but we could do
Speaker 1: one off of the what direction the NFL could go into. Okay,
Speaker 1: they should cancel the Bills Bengals game or explore other options. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where they are right now, what else do we
Speaker 1: It does seem to make sense though, that like both
Speaker 1: of those teams could theoretically, I don't forfeit the game,
Speaker 1: but they're both in the playoffs. That imagine if the
Speaker 1: Bengals were trying to get into the playoffs and needed it,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden becomes a tougher decision there.
Speaker 1: But you're going with winning percentage. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1: And if yeah, right, the Bills are the Bengals somehow
Speaker 1: end up getting a, say, a road game instead of
Speaker 1: a home game or whatever, I don't really think they're
Speaker 1: going to care all that much about that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, yeah, I don't think the Bengals care. I mean,
Speaker 1: the way they play, I don't think they have a
Speaker 1: problem going. All right, where are we going? We got
Speaker 1: to go to Kansas City, all right, We'll go to
Speaker 1: Kansas City. We're going to Buffalo, all right, We'll go
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. Buffalo. It's a little bit trickier because that's
Speaker 1: your teammate. But I do think the NFL looking at
Speaker 1: the possibility of the Bills and Bengals with a rematch
Speaker 1: in the divisional playoff round, that would be a probably
Speaker 1: an ideal situation. All right, yes, boy, how about this?
Speaker 1: I haven't worked that. Are the Barris shutting down Justin
Speaker 1: Fields their quarterback because of an actual hip injury or
Speaker 1: to give themselves a better chance to get a better
Speaker 1: draft pick this weekend? What do you think the actual
Speaker 1: decisions based on to yet the number one pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. He didn't seem to have a big hip
Speaker 1: injury on Monday, and then Wednesday comes and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's is that where they tell him, hey, limp,
Speaker 1: you gotta start limping? The other hand, what which what
Speaker 1: which one? Did I hurt the left wing? No? No, right,
Speaker 1: win Franklin. Now Nate Peterman gets the call. How do
Speaker 1: you think Nate Peterman feels, Hey, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: sit down Justin. He's a little banged up. We want
Speaker 1: to lose the game, so do your bestess ish out there.
Speaker 1: I love the idea that they bring it like they
Speaker 1: have a player, we'll say a quarterback, and they're like,
Speaker 1: look you are just way too valuable, okay, and one
Speaker 1: we need to we need to protect you from injury.
Speaker 1: We don't want anything to happen to you, okay, because
Speaker 1: you're way too valuable to the future this franchise. Nate,
Speaker 1: get out there, out there. You know, we don't care.
Speaker 1: Good luck. How about if you're resting, you're good players.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, coach comes by and goes,
Speaker 1: you're gonna sit down. You're gonna sit down. How about me, coach, No,
Speaker 1: you're playing. Oh you're in here. We can lose you, yea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: With Justin fields scrambling ability, he got sacked seven times
Speaker 1: last week, Nate Peterman runs like me, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: sex seven times during the national anthem Peterman Peterman. So,
Speaker 1: I guess playing him Justin Fields doesn't get the single
Speaker 1: season rushing record for quarterbacks. But the Bears have a
Speaker 1: chance for the number one pick in the draft or
Speaker 1: at worst number two pick in the draft. Falling yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, well, if they happen to win the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: but wait, now, what's the what's the line? Because it
Speaker 1: was the Vikings minus one, but I think that was
Speaker 1: Monday Peter in factor. I don't. I gotta believe that
Speaker 1: the Vikings are gonna be maybe a three or four
Speaker 1: point favorite. Now what does that say about the Vikings?
Speaker 1: They started out I think is a one point favorite
Speaker 1: against the Bears in Chicago and now without Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: Could we check see what draft Kings has on? That
Speaker 1: feels exactly right? Though? For the Vikings, does I know
Speaker 1: how are they like them? Are they twelve and twelve
Speaker 1: and four? Twelve and four? Are they the worst twelve
Speaker 1: and four team in NFL history? Yes, the Vikings are
Speaker 1: favored now by seven and a half. Okay, that's slapping
Speaker 1: the folk. Nathan Peterman, Yeah, Peterman on my watch. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: drums come in that hard that you can think of? That? Rivals?
Speaker 1: John Bonhaman led Zeppelin, anybody have any suggestions on something
Speaker 1: that starts like that? That loud? Yeah, So you're not
Speaker 1: saying drum solo, you're saying the opening yeah, oh man, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Led Zeppelin's kind of core in the market on that.
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Speaker 1: drum phil that he does to start that HM might
Speaker 1: be similar, might not. And when I met Dave Grohl
Speaker 1: at Howard Stern's birthday party, and I said to him,
Speaker 1: the way he played drums, that's that's the first time
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Speaker 1: John Bonham. And he lifted up, he pulled his shirt
Speaker 1: back and he had a led Zeppelin tattoo and he said,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's the ultimate compliment. Any drummer wanted to
Speaker 1: sound like John Bonham, it's just nobody could. But the
Speaker 1: fact that he tried to channel him, but also pulled
Speaker 1: back and showed me the tattoo. There all right. Nate
Speaker 1: Burlson one of our good buddies, a very busy man
Speaker 1: NFL Today on CBS, Nickelodeon, NFL Network analyst, CBS Morning
Speaker 1: host and former NFL wide receiver. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's another guy who's ever played in the NFL
Speaker 1: who played in a playoff game with the Lions, the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings. Nate Burlson joins us, Now, are you
Speaker 1: the only man who's ever played in the NFL who's
Speaker 1: played in playoff games for those three teams. I might be.
Speaker 1: I might be. I don't know if that says a
Speaker 1: lot about me as a talent or a lot about
Speaker 1: the fact that I played for multiple teams throughout my
Speaker 1: eleving your career. But either way, though, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: thankful that I actually had a chance to taste the
Speaker 1: playoffs because we know a lot of guys that bought
Speaker 1: out in this league that never got to the postseason.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad to be here. It's good to see
Speaker 1: you again. I'm upset that I can't do it in person,
Speaker 1: but thank you for having me on. How are the kids.
Speaker 1: They're good, They're good. The kids are doing good. I
Speaker 1: have two older boys who are in high school playing
Speaker 1: varsity basketball together. They just finished varsity football together. And
Speaker 1: if you check out my I g oh, no, I
Speaker 1: saw it yesterday. I saw I saw dad going crazy
Speaker 1: when one of your sons went in for a backdoor
Speaker 1: cut and dunked. Yeah, so you know, I was doing
Speaker 1: what the kids do with his head top. He caught
Speaker 1: a body, as they like to say, you know, and
Speaker 1: he climbed the ladder and shoved it down. Listen, I
Speaker 1: get it. There's parents that are there to casually enjoy
Speaker 1: the game. That ain't me. I am going to show
Speaker 1: up and show out for my boy, especially when he
Speaker 1: shocks the gym like that. And they shot one of
Speaker 1: the best teams in Jersey. So I had a good
Speaker 1: time watching it. Is he playing basketball or football in college?
Speaker 1: The wild thing is he chose to play wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He's six three pure shooter, and as you can see,
Speaker 1: he got hops. But he thought to himself, six three
Speaker 1: wide receiver. As long as I improve in college and
Speaker 1: put some strength on, I'll have a chance to go
Speaker 1: to the league. Here here's the twist in his decision
Speaker 1: to go to the University of Nevada and play wide receiver.
Speaker 1: One of the coaches there for the football team say, look,
Speaker 1: we know you're one of the top shooters in Jersey.
Speaker 1: You can play basketball here if one I think At
Speaker 1: that point he said, Oh, they must really want me
Speaker 1: if they said I can play two sports at college.
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah. What conversation did you have with
Speaker 1: your sons about what happened in Cincinnati Monday night? You
Speaker 1: know it was a tough conversation. I'll take you inside
Speaker 1: the kitchen. I'm sitting there. This is maybe an hour
Speaker 1: after it all went down, and we're talking about the
Speaker 1: moor Hamlin and his family and we're just praying and
Speaker 1: sending goodbyes, crossing our fingers, just hoping that we get
Speaker 1: good news sooner than later. My wife is sitting there
Speaker 1: and she just kind of projects into the air. You know,
Speaker 1: this is why it's tough to watch our kids play football.
Speaker 1: This is why I don't want them to play football.
Speaker 1: Sixen year old who was six four two hundred tight
Speaker 1: end d n he loves the sport. And he paused
Speaker 1: for a second. He said, Mama going to play football,
Speaker 1: and then he followed it by saying, you know, this
Speaker 1: is a rarity. It doesn't happen off In that moment
Speaker 1: when my wife said that there is two sides of me.
Speaker 1: One side fully agreed with her and validated her feelings
Speaker 1: because part of me felt that way. But then there
Speaker 1: was another side of me, and just being honest and
Speaker 1: transparent with that, I thought to myself, Man, this is
Speaker 1: this is what we sign up for. Necessarily that I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about tomorrow, Hamlet being on the ground, Max
Speaker 1: coming out, you know, performing CPR not that part of it,
Speaker 1: but injuries no matter where on the spectrum. They fall
Speaker 1: everything from your run of the mill sprained ankle, to concussions,
Speaker 1: broken bones, and toward ligaments. We sign up for all
Speaker 1: of that, Nate. I say this to my audience usually
Speaker 1: a couple of times a year, at least once a year.
Speaker 1: If you stood on the sidelines of an NFL game,
Speaker 1: you would never let your son play football because the sounds,
Speaker 1: the speed football doesn't do it justice. It doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: when you're watching it at home, even with the microphones
Speaker 1: and the four K cameras, it doesn't really put it
Speaker 1: into perspective until you're watching it in person. I remember
Speaker 1: being removed from the game and going into retirement and
Speaker 1: just doing studio work for like the first two or
Speaker 1: three years, and I finally went to a game. It
Speaker 1: took me about three years to go to a game,
Speaker 1: sit on the sideline, and work as a sideline reporter
Speaker 1: for the NFL network. Now. I remember being there with
Speaker 1: some people I work with and I looked over and
Speaker 1: I say, man, these guys are big, fat and strong,
Speaker 1: and these hits, these hits. And one of them looked
Speaker 1: at me like with this wild facebook expression, said, Bro,
Speaker 1: you used to do that. What are you talking about
Speaker 1: and for a quick second, I forgot that I was
Speaker 1: one of those guys who went out there and put
Speaker 1: everything on the line because they did get so much
Speaker 1: bigger and faster and stronger since the last time I played.
Speaker 1: I'll give you another story, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: hit you with too many stories. I don't want to
Speaker 1: answer every question you drow my way. But I remember
Speaker 1: my second year in the league. I got banged up
Speaker 1: pretty good. This is Minnesota Vikings name black and Blue
Speaker 1: Division NFC North and the Ogs the Vets. You know,
Speaker 1: they were saying, whenever you play within this division, teams
Speaker 1: like Green Bay, the Lions, especially Chicago is Chicago, and
Speaker 1: call it black and blue because your body will be
Speaker 1: black and blue. I played in one of those division
Speaker 1: games and my body was beat up. The next day
Speaker 1: in the weight room, I'm on the bench press. One
Speaker 1: side of my body is lifting up the way, the
Speaker 1: other side of struggling. I'm just like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: I changed the way, decreased it, same thing. I could
Speaker 1: not lift with the right side. Somebody recommended going to
Speaker 1: a chiropractor. I go to this chiropractor. They hooked me up,
Speaker 1: got all these tubes and these patches and electrodes and
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. Measuring my muscle function on the
Speaker 1: right side of my body. It was about fifteen percent
Speaker 1: muscle activity. So at some point I must have pinched
Speaker 1: some nerve that shut down most of the right side
Speaker 1: of my body, all the muscles that I used to
Speaker 1: move with. So that kind of explained it. You know,
Speaker 1: it was shocking explained it. I'm like, okay, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm struggling to lift weights in the weight room. And
Speaker 1: then the chiropractor said something I would never forget. He said, um,
Speaker 1: you know, you know playing this game is rough, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you know, I've been playing my whole life.
Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, yeah, but you know, going through
Speaker 1: what you go through, it's like it's like getting in
Speaker 1: a car accident. And I'm like really, he's like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like getting in the car accident. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: getting in the playing an NFL season is like getting
Speaker 1: in the cars. And he's like no, no no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Every time you get hit it's like getting into a
Speaker 1: car accident. And I was like, oh, well, at that point,
Speaker 1: and we talk about concussions, but really we should be
Speaker 1: talking about car wrecks to let people understand exactly what
Speaker 1: you know that feeling is, Like, it's not just your
Speaker 1: head trauma if you have one, it's your body trauma.
Speaker 1: But I was also wondering about this the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: the serious picture with Damar Hamlin. By the way, we're
Speaker 1: talking to a Nate Burlson of CBS. Hopefully he gets
Speaker 1: out of the hospital, but he's in his second year.
Speaker 1: Who's going to take care of him? Like he's not vested,
Speaker 1: but you have to have three years in the NFL
Speaker 1: now so, And there's been a lot of stuff that's
Speaker 1: talked about on social media that lets you know, prayers
Speaker 1: are great, but what happens to Damar Hamlin? If he
Speaker 1: comes out hopefully can't play football, then what happens medical costs? There?
Speaker 1: I know Ryan Shazier that you know the Steelers honored
Speaker 1: his contract and made him sort of a goodwill ambassador,
Speaker 1: But I think looking, you know, no guaranteed contract here,
Speaker 1: what do you think it's like that's the reality of
Speaker 1: all of this. Not necessarily prayers, but hopefully he comes out,
Speaker 1: and then what is life like for this man? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What if Damar Hamlin wasn't a guy that set up
Speaker 1: a gofund before his charity and wasn't active in the
Speaker 1: community and didn't bring in the same type of money
Speaker 1: that he brought in. I think it's upwards to six
Speaker 1: or seven million dollars that maybe he can lean on
Speaker 1: financially once he gets done. But what if what if
Speaker 1: he's a guy that didn't have that at outpoint of
Speaker 1: support financially from all over the world. That's the biggest question.
Speaker 1: You're spot on, DP. I just feel like when guys
Speaker 1: are playing this game and the money isn't guaranteed, and
Speaker 1: some young guys like this who are still trying to
Speaker 1: catch their footing and then secure a bag, the first bag,
Speaker 1: their first contract, what happens if it all ends like that?
Speaker 1: And that's why we fight for lifetime insurance and it
Speaker 1: seemed far fetch when guys first started saying it. When
Speaker 1: you really pay attention to the game, it is so necessary.
Speaker 1: So you need three years, three games to three and
Speaker 1: three to get invested for what five years of insurance
Speaker 1: after you get done playing, and then after that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure it out. We play our whole lives,
Speaker 1: our whole lives playing football to try to make it
Speaker 1: to the league. I think we should be rewarded with
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives being protected in an insurance
Speaker 1: policy that can help us with all of the aches
Speaker 1: and pains. One of the first meetings I ever remembered
Speaker 1: in the NFL was somebody coming in and basically hitting
Speaker 1: us with all steps. Listen, you're gonna die earlier than
Speaker 1: guys your age that didn't play football because of the game.
Speaker 1: Most likely you have arthritis before guys that you went
Speaker 1: to school with. And when it comes to major surgeries,
Speaker 1: whether it's a knee replacement of hit replacement, you will
Speaker 1: be more likely to get those major procedures when it
Speaker 1: comes to you being done with football compared to guy
Speaker 1: as your age. And with all that said, this young
Speaker 1: you know, cocky, full of themselves, ego driven, elite mindset,
Speaker 1: top one percent of an athlete. We're all sitting there like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's good to hear, but it
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be It ain't gonna be me. They ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be me. And and that's how we think until
Speaker 1: you get on that field and you realize, oh it
Speaker 1: might be me. Did they do the right thing? Are
Speaker 1: they going to do the right thing? In the NFL,
Speaker 1: it feels like momentum is building to not make the
Speaker 1: Bills and Bengals resume that game, play that game again,
Speaker 1: that we just wipe it out and we do winning
Speaker 1: percentage for the seated teams in the AMC. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the right move At this point, Who cares about the
Speaker 1: result of what that game would have been. I mean,
Speaker 1: more importantly, I'm more concerned about the freedom that these
Speaker 1: guys are going to need to play with him. By that,
Speaker 1: I mean the physical freedom going out there, pushing your
Speaker 1: body to play the game after seeing something like that.
Speaker 1: But more importantly than mental freedom, what about the mental
Speaker 1: health of these guys, you know when all that happened.
Speaker 1: Of course, at the forefront's the more Hamlin and his family,
Speaker 1: let me say that be very clear, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to see them insensitive or dismiss it. But then
Speaker 1: I started thinking about the players, watch tears streaming down
Speaker 1: their faces, sitting on knees, and then you look at
Speaker 1: the coaches and staff, and then I start thinking about
Speaker 1: the stands, the fans, the adults and the kids, And
Speaker 1: then my mind just opened up, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: about everybody at home? That is traumatic? For everybody involved.
Speaker 1: So if you know that it is traumatic visually to
Speaker 1: see something as daring as that, these players they need
Speaker 1: resources to at least have the option to go talk
Speaker 1: to somebody and then go back out on the field
Speaker 1: and do their job. Because with all of that said,
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it's something we say
Speaker 1: a lot in this business and media, and it applies
Speaker 1: to all sports. The show must go on because these
Speaker 1: guys get played, paid to play football. If I let
Speaker 1: you come back and play with one quarterback, one game,
Speaker 1: current quarterback, that is a tough question. Sh sh Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: It has to be because traditional drive back five step,
Speaker 1: seven step. I know if I hit my mark, he's
Speaker 1: gonna put that ball exactly where I needed. I'll catch
Speaker 1: it in stride it, hit me in between the numbers,
Speaker 1: or run to the end zone. But more importantly, if
Speaker 1: I come out of that break and I'm playing up
Speaker 1: against a top tier dB, somebody that has draped all
Speaker 1: over me, some young cocky cornerback like Soft Gardener or
Speaker 1: a vent like Jaalen Ramsey who really did a great
Speaker 1: job on that route, he breaks the pocket. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: now rolling the left, I get a secondary route I'm getting,
Speaker 1: I'm getting draped all over and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I see Pat move. Now I'll get spin out of
Speaker 1: that and go to the end zone. There's no way.
Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are as a cornerback,
Speaker 1: there's no way you can stop me running two routes
Speaker 1: in one play. Sometimes I have time to run three.
Speaker 1: I'm going here, here, and then I'm breaking deep. Because
Speaker 1: of the scramble rules that Patrick Mahomes plays with, So
Speaker 1: I would say, Patrick Mahomes, it gives me more opportunity
Speaker 1: to make the plays. But you could say you constant
Speaker 1: passes from Tom Brady. Yeah, but listen, he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna hit me. He's gonna hit me on the spot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna catch the ball, get the first down.
Speaker 1: I want to be plays though I want them to play.
Speaker 1: Are you younger than Brady? I am younger than Brady. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Brady's mid forties. I'm forty one. Crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: always wanted to play in New England, though I always listen.
Speaker 1: There was when I was a free agent. I was
Speaker 1: a free free agent twice. When I was a free agent,
Speaker 1: my name floated around in the papers. They're like, who's
Speaker 1: interested in Nate Broson. The fact that the Patriots showed
Speaker 1: just interest. I never got a call, my agent never
Speaker 1: said they really were interested. It was in the papers,
Speaker 1: and I felt like I made it and I was
Speaker 1: in the middle of the NFL playing for teams, didn't
Speaker 1: really getting paid. I was like, ooh, the Patriots like me.
Speaker 1: They're watching me, they know who I am. He could
Speaker 1: have played with Tom Brady. I could have. I could have. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: if I come out of retirement, I still can't. He's
Speaker 1: playing till he's fifty. I'm saying, we know that. Do
Speaker 1: you think he plays next year? Hell? Yeah? Where? Listen?
Speaker 1: Three spots um, San Francisco, Tampa. Of course, I would
Speaker 1: love to see Bruce come down from the booth. You
Speaker 1: had a year off, Come on, Bruce, Tom needs you,
Speaker 1: or back to New England. Those are the three spots,
Speaker 1: not Vegas. Nah. I don't see Tom going to Vegas, man.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just don't see it. It
Speaker 1: would be great, though, because you have a premiere receiver
Speaker 1: and then you have a great running back at Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it. Why would he
Speaker 1: go back to New England. Have you seen that offense.
Speaker 1: I've seen that offense. But if you have somebody that
Speaker 1: come in and call that offense the way that Tom
Speaker 1: may have weapons Nate, I mean, you'd have to ask
Speaker 1: Edelman and Grunt to come back. They'll listen, They'll go
Speaker 1: get some some some guys in free agency. They'll they'll
Speaker 1: work in the draft like they always do. More import
Speaker 1: it might be listening. It might be bigger than football.
Speaker 1: He wants a heroes welcome every city were naming, every
Speaker 1: city were naming. If he doesn't play well in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: they'll turn it back. If he doesn't play well in Vegas,
Speaker 1: they'll turn their back. If he goes back to New England.
Speaker 1: No matter what happens, they will love him there. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got Purty Magic. Are you telling me if they
Speaker 1: would go to the Super Bowl that they would go?
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna we're gonna bring in Tom here.
Speaker 1: They already got enough of a mess there with Garoppolo
Speaker 1: and Trey Lance. Yeah. No, that's the fact. Listen, if
Speaker 1: Purty takes them to the Super Bowls, Rap, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't even think Trey Lances in the field and
Speaker 1: Garoppolo's gone. Gail King would be a skilled position player
Speaker 1: for the Patriots right now, no doubt because she does
Speaker 1: her job. What do they say, you're your job to
Speaker 1: the best best ability. No great to talk to you,
Speaker 1: Good luck with your sons and congratsuate your success. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, man, appreciate you always leading away. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's Nate Merlson, NFL Today on CBS The CBS Morning Show,
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Speaker 1: Redeemed rewards terms of one. Here's a question, and you
Speaker 1: know we have to start asking these questions, hard questions.
Speaker 1: You know, as I mentioned, what happens hopefully when Hamlin
Speaker 1: is able to get out and maybe go on with
Speaker 1: his life. I don't know if he'll be able to
Speaker 1: play again, but I think he has to say four
Speaker 1: year contract. I would assume the Buffalo Bills would honor
Speaker 1: that contract. He's not fully vested as a veteran. I
Speaker 1: think you need three years. But What would we have
Speaker 1: done if that was a playoff game? What would we
Speaker 1: have done if that was the Super Bowl? These are
Speaker 1: hard questions that should be asked in case, because there's
Speaker 1: always going to be an in case contingency. They should
Speaker 1: look at that, and I'm sure they are. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they have, probably hasn't been made public, But if that
Speaker 1: was a playoff game, then what do you do? Maybe
Speaker 1: you're a little more collless, maybe you're not as sensitive
Speaker 1: because you're trying to get those games in no room
Speaker 1: to postpone. But these are the questions that are going
Speaker 1: to have to be asked here in the coming days,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we continue to get progress with Damar Hamlet.
Speaker 1: Hopefully all right, we'll get phone calls coming up, update
Speaker 1: the poll results. Seatan O'Connor dahn. We put up a
Speaker 1: different one, sort of off of a topic that we're
Speaker 1: covering before the show, but we haven't really hit too
Speaker 1: much on air just yet. Would you rather the Pro
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame let in more players or less players? Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, at the top of the hour, next hour,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up the finalist and there's
Speaker 1: some new names there. We've talked about You know, my
Speaker 1: concept is everybody goes, oh, he's not a Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer if you compare him too well. There are very
Speaker 1: good players in the Hall of Fame. There are great players,
Speaker 1: there are unbelievable players. There's varying degrees of goodness, greatness,
Speaker 1: very goodness, but you house them in one building. And
Speaker 1: I think that's where people have a problem with that
Speaker 1: that there are certain guys. If I said Larry Wilson
Speaker 1: played defensive back for the Cardinals, he's in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, and then you watched him play and you go, wait,
Speaker 1: he's in as a defensive back, and so is Dion Sanders. Well,
Speaker 1: they're not the same kind of players. You have to
Speaker 1: be fair to the era you played in. Also the
Speaker 1: skill level that we have now as opposed to what
Speaker 1: we had in the sixties quarterbacks. Would Bob Greasy make
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? Would Bards Starr make the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame? Not with those numbers? Would Lynn Swan make
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? Not with those numbers? Is Lynn
Speaker 1: Swann is Julian Edelman a version of Lynn Swan? Big plays,
Speaker 1: big moments, not great stats. That's where it's always a conversation.
Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that. We'll have a little bit
Speaker 1: more time coming up top the next hour. I couldn't
Speaker 1: help but think Nate Burlson works on the CBS Morning Show.
Speaker 1: I think PAULI worked there for a week. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I used to work at CBS Sports back in the
Speaker 1: late nineties, and in the offseason, I used to work
Speaker 1: CBS News and they kind of patched me around different things.
Speaker 1: Get fired, no, no, no, I chose to leave. I
Speaker 1: went to ESPN. Oh. But in the off season there
Speaker 1: was not a lot of sports at CBS Sport, as
Speaker 1: you've mentioned before, and so I would work like CBS
Speaker 1: Network News or radio news. They made me work for
Speaker 1: one week on the morning show. And it's back when
Speaker 1: Brian Bumble is one of the hosts and Martha Stewart
Speaker 1: was had a regular daily segment. Were you allowed to
Speaker 1: talk to them? I was actually pulled aside by a
Speaker 1: senior producer as I before my first day and said,
Speaker 1: here's some of the ground rules, here's what we need.
Speaker 1: I was a grunt, you know, I was printing up
Speaker 1: paper and getting coffee stuff like that. You were not allowed.
Speaker 1: Were you allowed to make eye contact? I was not
Speaker 1: allowed to be in the room and Martha Stewart was
Speaker 1: doing her segment. She had a certain people, the camera people,
Speaker 1: the script person, the makeup person were Martha's people that
Speaker 1: handled that segment. I was told not to get Martha's
Speaker 1: notes from from the printer, which my job was to
Speaker 1: get stuff on the printer and walk it to Martha
Speaker 1: or her producers. Her producer would do that, and Brian
Speaker 1: Gobble was less picky. But I was told, Brian will
Speaker 1: talk to you when he needs to talk to you
Speaker 1: if he needs something. Okay, do not speak unless spoken
Speaker 1: well Martha. I was given the riot act before. Ye see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: listening to that the Late House, some of it probably
Speaker 1: makes sense in like a functional way, like say, you're
Speaker 1: I mean, you would know Dan, right, but you're an
Speaker 1: anchor and you're doing this show, this huge morning show.
Speaker 1: You probably only want to deal with a couple of
Speaker 1: people and not have every dude who's just in there
Speaker 1: for the week coming up and being like, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't know the routines and stuff like that. It
Speaker 1: sounds like an ego thing, but I think an actual,
Speaker 1: like practicality, it kind of makes sense. Well, I never
Speaker 1: understood you can't make eye contact. Yeah, point to be
Speaker 1: fair to Mars Martha. You know, Missus Stewart, I wasn't
Speaker 1: told that, but I was told I could be in
Speaker 1: for a reaction if I engaged with her. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: other people of scene is right, though, there's a protocol
Speaker 1: that we try to follow. Yeah, you want to have
Speaker 1: one voice. That'd be like when you're doing when I
Speaker 1: did the super Bowl or I did the Olympics, I
Speaker 1: only wanted one voice in my ear. So my producer
Speaker 1: I would just say, hey, I don't need a couple
Speaker 1: of voices, I need one. That way you don't step
Speaker 1: on each other. And I know that that one voice
Speaker 1: is the one voice I always hear. Yes, that's a
Speaker 1: far cry from good morning, miss Stewart. Though I told
Speaker 1: you not to talk to her. What are you this?
Speaker 1: It's a little crazy, just like with certain things that
Speaker 1: they asked for in their rooms. The you know, like
Speaker 1: a certain color Eminem's is one thing, but like to
Speaker 1: not be able to look them, like freaking out over
Speaker 1: an onion bagel when you can't get an onion bagel,
Speaker 1: Missus Stewart, there's no more onion bagela. Good morning when
Speaker 1: you freaked out, you know, with some high school girl
Speaker 1: who was working the drive through at Bruger's Bagel. It
Speaker 1: was very pleasured at first, and I wasn't told I
Speaker 1: couldn't look at it down, but you've freaked. This is
Speaker 1: where we've gotten the term onion bagel energy. Yes, part
Speaker 1: of my job though. I did get to meet Bryan Gumbelt.
Speaker 1: He was actually very nice and he enjoyed talking sports
Speaker 1: with a couple people on the set. There were sports guys.
Speaker 1: There was a sports topic and Brian asked, Hey, it
Speaker 1: was like who it was some type of sports all
Speaker 1: time history topic and I knew the answer and I
Speaker 1: walked up. I go, yeah, it's um this as he
Speaker 1: was are you sure? I go yeah? He was sure
Speaker 1: sure because they were going back on air. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes, want a better week's pay on it? And
Speaker 1: because he thought it was the other thing, like the
Speaker 1: other answer I had, I thought I had the right
Speaker 1: answering this, would you be willing about what a better
Speaker 1: week's pay on it? I'm like, I would against your
Speaker 1: week's paying Yeah, And he laughed about that. So he
Speaker 1: was actually pretty fun. And finally a PostScript for all
Speaker 1: of us here and real sports, we have Brian I'm bank.
Speaker 1: I tried to have him on a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I think maybe like a decade ago we did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's busy doing one show a week. He's well dressed,
Speaker 1: he's always got a lot of golf to play. But
Speaker 1: he did an interview with no note taker very it's
Speaker 1: a very end. Whatever he writes down, I don't know
Speaker 1: what he writes down. Did he invent that move? Because
Speaker 1: it's a good one. Yeah. Well, when I started doing sports,
Speaker 1: and then i'd get done with the show and then
Speaker 1: You're like I would just scribble something. It was like
Speaker 1: I didn't write anything down. I just scribbled it. But
Speaker 1: tomorrow on today, it's like you're filling out your time card, okay,
Speaker 1: and finished working today. He did an interview with Nolan
Speaker 1: Richardson a couple of years ago that I thought was
Speaker 1: a tutorial in how to do an interview, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was great and I wanted to have him on.
Speaker 1: It just didn't work out, right Ton, Yeah, you reached
Speaker 1: out to him, didn't you. Oh, I'm not allowed to.
Speaker 1: I was told there are no quest No. I told
Speaker 1: you that's Martha's Stewart. I didn't ask for Martha's Stewart.
Speaker 1: They've all told me do not even think about sending
Speaker 1: a request to any of us about the NFL Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game. We'll play that coming up one hour
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