1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: You know your house smells, don't get mad. Don't get mad. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: My house smells too. I'm not I'm not indicting you. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: means you're going to acquire smells. Whether those are cooking 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: smells that get in your paint, your carpet, maybe their 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: animals smells. Maybe you're a smoker, or someone else was 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: just living create smells. I didn't realize that my home 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: had a smell to it until I got my first 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Eden Pure Thunderstorm, the greatest air purifier I've ever owned 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: in my life. This thing. 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Maybe we 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: should have opened the show with the song Fortunate Sun 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Today because we are going to viet Nam. Oh we're 22 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: going to other places too. There is there's a jaw 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: dropping pull out there about the issues voters care about, 24 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the issues you care about, versus the issues the communists 25 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: care about. And you know, I'm always going off about 26 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: this national divorce thing that we need to have. Man, 27 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: is my point reinforced today. We'll get to that. You 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: can hear it right there. I do my own sound 29 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: effects for the show. You get to that. The GOP 30 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: civil war that's making people uncomfortable. I'll tell you why. 31 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: It's a great thing. We have a stripper protest, not 32 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: even making that up. But first, let's go back to 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine. We are in Vietnam, and here is 34 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: the situation on the ground. We now have Richard Nixon, 35 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: this president, newly elected President Nixon, tricky dick. He is 36 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: in a situation and not a great situation at all. 37 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: And this is this is pre scandal and all that stuff. 38 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: The Vietnam situation was simply a nightmare. It was a 39 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: nightmare for LBJ. It was a nightmare for Nixon. It 40 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: had already been going on a while, it was gonna 41 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: go on a while after this, And really the story 42 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: of Vietnam. The true story if you want to understand Vietnam, 43 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: even though we're not doing the war as a whole today, 44 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: you can never do that is it's a story of commitment. 45 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: Differences in commitment. That's what it was. The North Vietnamese 46 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: had a certain level of commitment, the South Vietnamese had 47 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: a certain level of commitment. The American soldier had a 48 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: certain level of commitment. The politicians had a certain level 49 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: of commitment back home, the American public had a certain 50 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: level of commitment. And that's going to come into play here. 51 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: And here's the thing about that certain level of commitment 52 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: all those people had. It was all different. It was 53 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: all different. Everybody was not pulling the same direction in 54 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: this war. And this was this was how we were 55 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: conducting it. We because there was a guerrilla force, remember, 56 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: the Vietcong in NVA were two different things. I know, 57 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: if you're a Vietnam freak, which you might be, you're 58 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: probably rolling your eyes and saying thank you, Captain obvious. 59 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: But I realize a lot of people don't know this stuff. 60 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: The ENVA, the North Vietnamese Army was simply that the 61 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: North Vietnamese regular army. They were up North. They were 62 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: a regular force, you know, artillery, so on and so forth. 63 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: The Vietcong were something else entirely. The Vietcong were in 64 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: South Vietnam. They were the guerrilla force. They were the 65 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: one people think about all the time, the man in 66 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the black pajamas, spider holes and tunnels and things, the 67 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: booby traps and torture and all that. That was the 68 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: viet Cong, the more untrained, more poor guerrilla force, but 69 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: fears fighters who'd really just got done doing it. To 70 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: the French experience, these were these were not idiots at all. 71 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: So when we got to Vietnam, and remember this is 72 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: our war on communism. We're trying to stop the spread 73 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: of communism. We get to Vietnam and look, we're here 74 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: to stop communism, right, We're here to help South Vietnam 75 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: hold off the dirty commies in North Vietnam. That's what 76 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: we're here for. Shouldn't be a problem. It shouldn't be 77 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: a problem, shouldn't except half half of South Vietnam didn't 78 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: want to hold off the commies in North Vietnam. And 79 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: the American people for a lot of different reasons, they 80 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: simply were not willing to sacrifice American lives on any 81 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of a grand scale for Vietnam. Prior to Vietnam, 82 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: Americans didn't know where Vietnam was period. They just said, no, 83 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: it was that something you don't care about foreign policy. 84 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: That's why I don't talk that much about it. And 85 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'm the same way. I mean, I'll 86 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: hit the hit, I'll hit the big ones like like always, 87 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: all hit the big ones. But people care about their 88 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: own backyard. You don't care about what's going on in Qatar. 89 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: I had Dave Reboy, my good buddy Dave Reboy, on 90 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: my TV show last night, and he just wrote this 91 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: fascinating book about Qatar and the Islamist influence here in 92 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: America coming from Katara, and it was totally fascinating. But 93 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I had to say, Dave, how many people even know 94 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: where this place is? He said, oh, none. Did you 95 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: find Katar on a map? I even looked it up yesterday. 96 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you handed me a blank map 97 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: I could find it exactly. Again, it's the fact Americans 98 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: didn't care about Vietnam. And if we're going to go 99 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: to Vietnam, it's gonna be oh, okay, let's go. Let's 100 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: go slap around some tiny Asian dudes. This will be easy. 101 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm fine with being there as long as I mean, 102 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: nobody gets hurt but them, and then our guys start 103 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: getting hurt because you see, there were various levels of 104 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: commitment the communists in North Vietnam. We're very very committed. 105 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: They were very very committed, and there's simply not as 106 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: we have found out for twenty years now in Afghanistan, 107 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: there's not a way to casually walk into someone else's 108 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: homeland and assert your authority. Either you go in with 109 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: some force all the way, or you don't go in 110 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: at all. We've had this talk a thousand times on 111 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: the show. I'll repeat it a thousand more times. When 112 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: you're defending your homeland, you fight differently than when you're 113 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: walking into somebody else's. If you're standing on the sidewalk 114 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: and there's a dude with a machete in front of you, 115 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: and he once passed you and behind you is really nothing. 116 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: How hard are you going to fight that guy? And 117 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: maybe you will, maybe you won't, so you can go 118 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: buy it's fine. If that same situation happens and your 119 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: wife and kids are behind you, you're going to fight 120 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: until you die when you're defending your homeland. That's how 121 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: you fight. And so we decided we were simply going 122 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: to start stacking bodies and grade the war that way. 123 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: It became a war of well what are the death counts? Well, well, 124 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: we kill way more of them than they killed of us. 125 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: And that was another way they were One they were 126 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: calling that a win in the war. And two that's 127 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: how they were selling it to an American public who 128 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't want our guys coming home torn to bits like that. 129 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: And our guys, this is why it takes me off 130 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: so bad. Our guys over there who fought were lions, 131 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: absolute lions, all the way committed, all the way committed. 132 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: Their commanders weren't. The politicians weren't. We just sold them 133 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: down the river. And so it becomes a war like 134 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: I said, of well, yeah we lost, We lost fifty 135 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: guys today, but we killed three hundred of them. Look 136 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: at that, we're winning. But when you're in a war 137 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: like that against communists, communists don't stop, and communists don't 138 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: quit until you make them quit. And this is what 139 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: we were running into. The Communists would take over an 140 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: area and filtrade in an area, attack a certain area, 141 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: and we would because we were the far superior fighting 142 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: for us. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. I 143 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: look to every time we got in a big fight. 144 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: We were kicking a crap out of them. So we 145 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: would move into that area and bomb it and napom 146 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: it and send our highly trained dudes in and we'd 147 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: smack them around and clear out the area. Only they 148 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: didn't quit. They just move areas, that's all. They just 149 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: move areas. So now that brings us to where we 150 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: are now in the story. It's nineteen sixty nine. What's 151 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: happening is the ho Chi Minh trail is a problem. 152 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: And I know you've probably heard of the ho Chi 153 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: Minh trail. I need you to understand this. It wasn't 154 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: a trail. What was the ho Chi Minh trail. Well, 155 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: I'll break that down for you in a second. And wow, 156 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: these poll numbers on what the different sides care about. Yikes. 157 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show, subscribe wherever you find podcasts. 158 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Super Beats heart Chews they combine non GMO beats with 159 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: grape seed extract. In this and grape seed extract the 160 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: one used in super beats choose. It's been clinically shown 161 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: to be two times as effective at supporting normal blood 162 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: pressure as a healthy lifestyle alone. So let me ask you, 163 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: are you doing the little things for your heart in 164 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: your blood pressure. 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Jesse Kelly show the GOP Civil War why 175 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: it's a good thing. I will explain that in just 176 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: a few But first, the Ho Chi Minh trail, it 177 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: wasn't a trail. It wasn't even multiple trails. Well it was, 178 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: but here's what it was. It was simply away. The 179 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: North would haul gear and men down south to fight 180 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: the Americans. If you look at Vietnam, there are countries 181 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: bordering Vietnam, like Laos and the North Vietnamese, because we 182 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: weren't supposed to be attacking Laos, would duck into Laos 183 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: and hump down the Laos side and then pop their 184 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: way into South Vietnam and attack us. That was the 185 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Ho Chi Minh Trail, and what happened was we would 186 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: find it in the places we could. They would usually 187 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: haul at night because during the day they knew was death. 188 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Those Vietnamese would usually just only move anywhere at night 189 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: because we would bomb the heck out of him during 190 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: the day, and eventually we would find whatever trail they 191 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: were using, we would bomb it, and then the North Vietnamese, 192 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: remember these are communist people, would simply order their citizens 193 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: to rebuild it somewhere else or sometimes right there, and 194 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: they would rebuild it as fast as we could blow 195 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: the dagon thing up, and we start having major problems 196 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: in a place called the Ashaw Valley. Don't worry about 197 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: remembering the name of these names are tough to remember. 198 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: All you need to know about the Ashaw Valley is 199 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: you can picture North Vietnam right, and you can picture 200 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: South Vietnam. The Ashaw Valley was in the north western 201 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: part of South Vietnam. And it was exactly what I 202 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: was just telling you about. It was a place where 203 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: the Ho Chi Minh Trail came out of Laos and 204 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: popped into South Vietnam, and the North Vietnamese were moving 205 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: in there in mass. They were stacking up forces there, 206 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: pushing people around there. And we decided we were going 207 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: to do something called Operation Apache Snow. And the operation 208 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: was simply, let's go to the Ashaw Valley and crush 209 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: the North Vietnamese there. And you need to understand the 210 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: desperation on behalf of the American generals and politicians too. 211 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: By nineteen sixty nine, I mean not that it was 212 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: are popular, but by nineteen sixty nine, this war is very, 213 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: very very unpopular. And this is in America. Keep in 214 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: mind that had only ever known wins, and I mean 215 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: huge cool wins too. This is the Think how many 216 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: people were alive during World War Two. We're still alive 217 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: during Vietnam. Think about think about what it would have 218 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: been like to be an American alive in World War Two. 219 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Opening up the newspaper every day about a battle in 220 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Ewo Jima and the Battle of the Bulge and American 221 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: victory and the glorious victories you've been part of, and 222 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: even Korea. You go take on nine trillion Chinese people 223 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: in North Korea and win. It's a great win. The 224 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: Americans had only ever known things like that. And we 225 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: get to Vietnam and there aren't big wins because the 226 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: North Vietnamese won't let you have big wins. They tried 227 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: some of that early on, Wow, we'll take on these Americans, 228 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: and we kept just stomping them into the ground. So 229 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: now they would just melt away. And you never ever, 230 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: ever as a general, as a politician, you never got 231 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: to step up to the microphone and tell the American people, 232 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: look at this big win, what's a win? But you 233 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: killed a couple hundred North Vietnamese. That's not gonna wake 234 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: any American now. It's not gonna get anybody cheering. They 235 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: thought they could get a big win out of here. 236 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: Only the North Vietnamese were very, very very good at 237 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: some things. And one of the things they were very 238 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: good at, like I just said, was melting away, no 239 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: need to take us on. But they were also good 240 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: at recognizing an opportunity. And there was a hill in 241 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: the Ashau valley and go look at it. To this day, 242 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: from what I understand, I think it's a tourist attraction 243 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: to this day called Hill nine three seven. And this 244 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: large hill with various fingers coming out the top of it, 245 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: double triple canopy jungle was simply a natural fortress. And 246 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: the North Vietnamese recognized, Okay, the Americans are coming. They're 247 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: coming to this hill no doubt, because it was the 248 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: best position to have in all the valley. What if 249 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: we don't retreat this time, what if we've maked this 250 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: thing a fortress and try to murder as many Americans 251 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: as we possibly can here. And so they begin, and 252 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: when the Vietnamese dug in, it was fascinating, mainly because 253 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: of their spider holes and their tunnel systems. You know 254 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: what a bunker is. I don't have to explain to 255 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: you what a bunker is. A spider hole is simply 256 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: a hole in the ground. But you'd call it four 257 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: feet deep if you want. That's probably fair. Sometimes less 258 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: than that, because the Vietnamese were so small, well, I 259 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: guess are so small, and a Vietnamese soldier or store 260 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: a couple of them would crouch down in this spider hole. 261 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: It's completely hidden, it is camouflaged well, you would walk 262 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: by it, you'd walk over it a thousand times without 263 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: knowing it was there. They wait until the Americans are 264 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: distracted by something else. Pop out of the spider hole, 265 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: Pop pop pop, either take a couple shots at him 266 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: of the sniper rifle or a machine gun, oftentimes hitting 267 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: one of our guys, sometimes killing one of our guys, 268 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: then dropping right back in, closing the top of the hole. 269 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: And you don't even know where they came from. It 270 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: simply came from nowhere. It was a nightmare. And that 271 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: that wasn't even the worst of it. The worst of 272 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: it were the tunnels. I have done a show a 273 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: long time ago. I'll do other ones in the future 274 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: about the tunnel rats with the Vietnamese tunnels. But the 275 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Vietnamese tunnels were absolutely horrific, horror terrific. They couldn't hardly 276 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: find any of the tunnel rats, the guys we sent 277 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: down into the tunnels, you know, to kill these guys. 278 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: They couldn't hardly find any of them who would speak 279 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: about it after the war. That's why there aren't many 280 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: stories about it. You couldn't find anyone to speak about it. 281 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: I want you, I want you to picture this moment 282 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: because real Americans went through this, and I want you 283 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: to picture this. There's a hole in the ground, it 284 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: leads down into a tunnel. You as an American, have 285 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: to go down and clear that tunnel out because you 286 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: think it's a long, intricate tunnel system. And they were 287 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: intricate systems. And when I say intricate, I mean this one. 288 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: They were curved. Don't think you're gonna go down and 289 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: look down a hall. They were curved specifically so we 290 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: couldn't see down them, so we couldn't shoot down them. 291 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Otherwise you just point a machine gun down there and 292 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: spray the whole dagun thing down. They were elaborate. There 293 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: were sleeping quarters in them, underground, hospitals underground. There were 294 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: booby traps, and yes, the most horrific Indiana Jones booby 295 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: traps you can imagine, and they were real. We're talking 296 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: the kind that have a deadly poisonous snake putting a 297 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: nail through its tail, having it sit there on a 298 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: board that would fall down if you came around it. 299 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: Now you have a poisonous snake snapping at everything. Guys, 300 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: died like this. Even worse booby traps than that too, 301 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: even worse presents than that. I guess I should call it, 302 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: because that's what a lot of the North Vietnamese called them. 303 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: They would have little pits for people with the little 304 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: pungy sticks on them. You would be crawling. You wouldn't 305 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: see that it was a giveaway floor. It would give away. 306 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: They would drop poisonous spiders on top of you. They'd 307 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: keep God know, Chris has got the shivers over there. 308 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: They would drop a little trip wires with grenades in there. 309 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: And do you have any idea what it would do 310 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: to the human body to set off a grenade in 311 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: a tiny little tunnel and you're sitting there right by it? 312 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: You're gone? And wait, the tunnels actually get worse than that. 313 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I have a story that's gonna be a bit gruesome, 314 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: but you need to hear it, and then we'll finish 315 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: our tail. Hang on. No word in the English language 316 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: is less convincing than probably. Are you sure we should 317 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: get matching tattoos on our first speed? Sure? We'll probably 318 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: stay together. Probably. It's been twenty three minutes since I 319 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: ate I can probably swim. You should wait thirty minutes. Okay, 320 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: don't tell me what to do, candid bramp. Oh, I 321 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: have a cramp. I can probably hit the green from here, probably, 322 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: can I get a Mulligan ready to go? Hey, are 323 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: you sure you're okay to drive? Yeah? I'm pretty sober. Yeah, 324 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm probably okay. Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it 325 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: comes to drinking and driving. If you're drinking, call a cab, 326 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: a car, or a friend. Buzz driving is drunk driving. 327 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: A message brought to you by NITZA and AD Council. 328 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh yes, we have a stripper protest. Oh get them, ladies. 329 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: I'll go into that a little while. But first, back 330 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: to the tunnels. I told you this is going to 331 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: be a gruesome story. It is a real story. I 332 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: tell you this story so you will have a new 333 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: level of respect for the Americans who went down into 334 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: these tunnels. Understand, when you went down into the tunnel, 335 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: oftentimes you did not even bring a flashlight with you. 336 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Why they can see the flashlight too. Oftentimes you would 337 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: bring a special pistol, a lower caliber pistol, because a 338 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: higher caliber caliber would blow out your ear drums. There 339 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: were some tunnel rats who did not believe in bringing 340 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: a pistol at all. Yes, I'm being serious. There are 341 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: men who went down into dark tunnels with booby traps 342 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: everywhere with nothing but a knife. That is, that is 343 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: a level of bravery, that is, that's not human. I 344 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: don't know how people did that. And maybe that's just 345 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: because I'm not a big claustrophobic on my shoulders, guy, 346 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how they did that. And the tunnels 347 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: not only already told you they had sleeping quarters in hospitals, 348 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: the tunnels had levels to them. That's right. You can 349 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: go down a tunnel and it'll have another hole or 350 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: a door that'll take you down to another level. Or 351 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: you'll keep going and you'll see a door above you 352 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: that will go up to another level. And they were 353 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: always trying to make your life miserable and kill you. 354 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: And there is one story from this tunnel rat book 355 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: I read, and the story was this, two Americans went 356 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: down the one of them was going up through one 357 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: of those doors, and apparently this was a trick the 358 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: Vietnamese would do quite often. There was a viet Cong 359 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: guerrilla up above the level. He was on the level 360 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: above the American pops his head through to look. The 361 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: Vietnamese dude stabs him in the throat with a bamboo stick, 362 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: but then doesn't pull the stick out, doesn't finish him off, 363 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: leaves him there because now there's a stick in his 364 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: neck and he can't pull his head back down through 365 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: the hole, and there's not enough room for his friend 366 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: to get by him and remove the stick to pull 367 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: his head back down through the hole. That's right. You 368 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: want to picture the worst experience in the history of mankind, 369 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: be stabbed in the neck in the pit black with 370 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: no way to get out, in a Vietnamese tunnel. I 371 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: told you that, so you understood. It was understood. These 372 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: tunnels were a living hell, and the Vietnamese were masters 373 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: at them, and they had them dug in all over 374 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: Hill nine thirty seven. And because our politicians didn't have 375 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: any idea what they were doing, they decided there was 376 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: a humane way to fight the jungle communists. They stopped 377 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: letting Americans use flamethrowers in the tunnels. Yeah, it's bad. 378 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: And remember the tunnels were curved anyway, so you couldn't 379 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: use grenades, you couldn't use machine guns. It's simply you 380 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't get enough blast out of it. Either you flamethrow 381 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: them or nothing. It was bad. So we get to 382 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: this hill and we start fighting our way up the 383 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: hill through the double and triple canopy jungle, and we're 384 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: getting a lot of a lot of the little gorilla attacks, 385 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: little snipers shot here. Like I said, I pop out 386 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: of the spider holes, a little brief contact there. But 387 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: we don't have a good idea of how many Vietnamese 388 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: are there. Remember this is double and triple canopy jungle. 389 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: You can't just magically snap your fingers and know how 390 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: many people were in an area. You have to see 391 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: them either on the ground or by air, and we 392 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: couldn't do either of those things. We think this is 393 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: only going to take a couple of days to take 394 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: this hill, except it didn't. We're fighting our way up 395 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: and fighting our way up and it's not that bad, 396 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: but it's very slow going because of the jungle, and 397 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: you have to make sure you clear out every tunnel 398 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: and bunker you come to because you can't let these 399 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: people pop up behind you, which the Vietnamese would often do. 400 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: And then one night you see Communists have always been 401 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 1: and are currently very very very good at propaganda making 402 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: a statement, pushing out some kind of message. They just 403 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: always are. You know what they did one night after 404 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: we're there for a few days, we still think there 405 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: are only a few Nva here in this place. One 406 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: night at the same time, they decided to light a 407 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: bunch of camp fires on the mountain. And here we 408 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: are at the bottom of the hill and we look 409 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: up and there are three concentric rings going up the mountain, 410 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: of fires all the way around the top. Tell me 411 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be the creepiest thing you've ever seen in 412 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: your life. And now the Americans know they're dug in. 413 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: And they weren't just dug in up there. The North 414 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: Vietnamese were committed to making us die here. They dug 415 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: in with their best troops, their crack troops, and we 416 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: were only a mile from the Laos border. They kept 417 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: bringing in more troops as the fighting then began. Having 418 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: been in the jungle, I've never fought in the jungle before, 419 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: but I've been in it, Triple Nip Jungle in Thailand 420 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: in peace time with nobody trying to kill you one. 421 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: The jungle can kill you two. It's creepy in peace 422 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: time in an ally country doing practice we're just practicing 423 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: out there, basic training. The jungle is creepy. You can't see. 424 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: You just can't see. Everything's so dense and think you 425 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: can't make anything out. Its stinks too, because the sun 426 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: doesn't get all the way down to dry out all 427 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: the stuff that falls on the ground, so it's always 428 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: animals and leaves and stuff rotting on the floor. It's stinks. 429 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: I'll never forget about it. Stinks. We start having to 430 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: fight our way through the top. We are napalming them, artillery, 431 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: We're doing everything we can, but they're dug in as 432 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: much as humanly possible, and they're not doing what they 433 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: normally did, which is pulled back. They're reinforcing. They're killing us. 434 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: This is in case any of this sounds familiar. This 435 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: is actually known as Hamburger Hill because one guy on 436 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: the ground said they're chopping us into Hamburger here, and 437 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: he actually put up a sign that said Hamburger Hill 438 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: and stuck it on a tree, and that's actually what 439 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: it's known as. Now. They made a movie about it. 440 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: I never saw it. I heard it was good. I 441 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I can't testify to that. But we fought 442 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: our way through the jungle and fought our way through 443 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: the jungle. And as we're inching forward and some of 444 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: the front line units are taking seventy percent casualties, we're 445 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: inching ford and inching ford and inching forward. One of 446 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: the main things, and this will always stay with me 447 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: if you look into the Battle of Hamburger Hill, one 448 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: of the main things that stuck with me was the 449 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: huge concern of the American generals, on top of the 450 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: loss of life of their guys, was the reporters. We 451 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: had report orders with US, reporters with US, and reporters 452 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: are sitting there watching every single American body bag that 453 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: comes out with a look of joy on their face, 454 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: probably not all the time, but with a look of 455 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: joy on their face of oh, this is going to 456 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: really make people mad when I report on this back home, 457 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: stoking the flames and stoking the flames and stoking the flames. 458 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: And why because the American public was not committed to 459 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: winning this war, and the reporters knew it. And I'm 460 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: not blaming the American public for that either, but that 461 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: is a fact. The truth is it took us ten days, 462 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: ten days to take Hill nine thirty seven Hamburger Hill. 463 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: We took it, lost all these guys, thankfully killed more 464 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: of them than of us. And then less than two 465 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: weeks later we abandon the hill. And I said in 466 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: the beginning, the Vietnam War was about commitment. The North 467 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: Vietnamese were committed all the way. The Vietcong were committed 468 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: all the way. Our guys on the ground committed all 469 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: the way. But you know why there's only one Vietnam. Now. 470 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why in just a second, and then 471 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: we'll get to these poll numbers of wild Ham Jesse Kelly. 472 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Wake up and text, Text and eat, Text and catch 473 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: the bus, Text and miss her stop wait wait, wait, 474 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: wait wait, Text and be late to work. Sorry. Text 475 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: and work, Text and pretend to work, Text and x 476 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: surprised when someone calls you out for not working. Text 477 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: and meet up with a friend you haven't seen in forever. Oh, 478 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Text and complain that they're on their phone the whole time. 479 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: Text and listen to them, complain that you're on your 480 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: phone the whole time. Text and whatever. But when you 481 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: get behind the wheel, give your phone to a passenger, 482 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: put it in the glovebox. Just don't text and drive 483 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: The Sait stop texts stoprex dot org. A public service 484 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: announcement brought to you by the National Highway Traffic Safety 485 00:33:40,080 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: Administration and the AD Council. Eight seven seven three seven 486 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: seven four three seven three Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 487 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: The Vietnam War was a question about commitment, and the 488 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: truth is this, we weren't as a nation committed to 489 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: winning it. They were all the way committed to winning it. 490 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: And we did our guys who went over there and 491 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: fought in it a disservice by sending them. There is 492 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: not an easy, halfhearted, half in way to defeat communists. 493 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: There's not. It's never been done. Their mentality is too aggressive, 494 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: too dominating. They're never going to wake up one day 495 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: and say hi, I've had enough. That's not how they think. 496 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: That's not how they operate. If you're going to fight 497 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: it halfhearted, don't fight it at all. We got this 498 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: voicemail and I'll tell you I've been brewing on it 499 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: because he brings up some great points and I'll hear 500 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: you know what, play it, Chris Jesse, good morning. Listen 501 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: to one of your episodes and you were talking about 502 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: using different products. I mean, not the products but you know, 503 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: not supporting companies that support communism, et cetera. You had 504 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: a woman on talking about the same thing. It was 505 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: the neuro Show that being said, who do you suggest 506 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: we get our internet through or your cell phone service through? 507 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: But you know, talk across some last night exposing a 508 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: D and G one of the company that I worked 509 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: for and companies that I have worked for. All my 510 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: managers have been left wing nutsos and you know they 511 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: hide it, but they don't have to hide it. Now. 512 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: I have no idea what list of you know, internet providers. 513 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: You know, we unsubscribed from Disney plus we don't do Netflix, 514 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: but I can't fling my Amazon Prime. You know, I'm 515 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm kind of out there. I mean I was, you know, 516 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: I cancel cable back in the early you know, through 517 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: dollars at eight two dollar nine. So I'm an earlier adopter, 518 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: which a lot of times means I end up getting 519 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: short end of the stick. But it would be nice 520 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: if us all like a list of companies on your website. Anyway, 521 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: I love your show. First of all, thank you for 522 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: the call, Thank you for the voicemail eight seven seven 523 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: three seven seven four three seven three. You can call 524 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: live or leave a voice. That's fine. Jesse at Jesse 525 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: Kelly Show dot com. Send your love, send your hate, 526 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: send your death threats, send your ask doctor. Jesse questions. 527 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: It's Thursday, that is tomorrow. We're gonna have a blast. 528 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: But as far as getting up a list of companies, 529 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: I actually love that idea. I love putting together a 530 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: list of companies and putting it on the website, not 531 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: necessarily a list where you shouldn't go. Already read off 532 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: that long list the other day. Here's a list of 533 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: companies you can trust. I love the idea of it. 534 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: Here's something that holds me back from it. The second 535 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: I put up a list of companies, I am making 536 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: those companies a target for the leftists, for the communists. 537 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: As soon as I put up the list, then these 538 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: companies who probably just want to be left alone. You know, 539 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: they may not even be hardcore right wing companies. They 540 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: may just want to be left alone. Once I put 541 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: up the list, the communists come for them. That's how 542 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: it works. What these guys haven't bowed at the communist 543 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: altar yet, no, So let me brew on that. But 544 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: like I said, there's not a halfhearted way to do this. 545 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: This is a war of commitment. How committed are you? 546 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: Here's how committed they are. This is a poll. This 547 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: is the top concerns, top concerns of Republicans versus Democrats. 548 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: And understand, when I say democrats, I'm talking about the 549 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: communists today because we don't have many Democrats left except 550 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: for the older ones. But I saw these numbers come 551 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: out on what people actually care about in the different parties, 552 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: and boy, do we need a national divorce. Here are 553 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 1: the issues that Republicans care about, according to this latest poll. 554 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: Most concerned illegal immigration, lack of police support, high taxes, 555 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: liberal bias in the mainstream media, general moral decline of 556 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: the country, socialism, antifa, violence, and China. There are more 557 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: on there, but those in general are the top ones 558 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: Republicans are concerned about. Hear me, High taxes, immigrations are 559 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: on and so forth. Now these are the ones Democrats 560 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: are concerned about. And then let me ask you, are 561 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: we going to get this band back together? Here's the 562 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: Democrat list. Their number one concern Donald Trump's supporters. Their 563 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: number two concern white nationalism. Their number three concern systemic racism, 564 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: four gun violence, five Americans lacking health coverage and six 565 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: domestic terrorism, seven's police brutality. Why do we live in 566 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: the same country? I really mean that, But you know, 567 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: it's a consistent thing. I talk about, why are we 568 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: doing this? Why are we doing this? And it's not 569 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: as if I'm pro divorced or something like that in 570 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: your own personal life. I don't judge anybody whatever, But 571 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: this is the husband wants to live in the suburbs 572 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 1: and go to work every day and manage his money well, 573 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: and the wife wants to travel the world while doing heroine. 574 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: We're two different people. We don't have slight opposites. You know. 575 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: While we could work on this, there's no middle ground there. 576 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: There's no middle ground there. Hang on, I'm not done. 577 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to dip forever. You know that, right. 578 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: You don't have to smoke forever. And the reason I 579 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: say it like that is I have been that guy. 580 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: I've been that guy I dipped for so long. And 581 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: what would happen is I would decide I'm gonna quit. 582 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: It's bad for me. I'm gonna quit. I'm a man, 583 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't need any help. I'm just gonna quit cold Turkey, 584 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: and I would fail time and time and time again. 585 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: I tried things like the patch I didn't work, gum 586 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: of sunflower seeds I tried at all. It's just a 587 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: matter of finding the right thing to help you quit. 588 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: That's Jake's Mintchew. Go put in your dip. 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