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Visit Allcopyproducts dot com and buy Arizona 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals podcast. Visit Azcardinals dot com Slash podcast one. 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Hand to Catch it a touchdown. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grielou All Calavic and nine year NFL veteran 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson. 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: So, if you're a somebody within the National Football League, 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 4: you are, I'm gonna say definitively. You are in town 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: as we speak. So this is not a warning doither 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: of you two, but be careful. People might be listening, 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: because they always listen, especially Paul's good friend Roger, who 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: will be meeting the media at some point of the 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: next couple of hours as the annual league meeting comes 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: to a closed Tuesday afternoon. But uh yeah, Rodger Goodell 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: is in town, Paul, did you guys hang out at 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: all since he's been in town since Sunday, or. 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 5: As we call him, Roger, you know, sorry, just you know, ye, yeah, 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 5: someone who's hosted a media session or two with the 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 5: NFL commissioner. Not sure he remember he did call me 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 5: PAULI pigskin once upon a time. Actually on stage, he 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: was playing along. He was being a good sport. But 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 5: you know, Craig, these people are busy. It's sort of 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 5: like yesterday we showed up and I looked at some 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: of the itineraries. Okay, am I in any of these 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 5: meetings or those meetings or anyone consulting me on anything. 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: I'll just be right over here covering the affair. And 36 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 5: that's basically what we did. 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: I thought maybe you were having some brandy and some 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: cigars with you know, rubbing elbows with all the elites, PAULI. 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: I was getting ready for this show. You know, that 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: would have been last night, but I was getting ready. No, 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 5: there are those who are in the know and are 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 5: part of the Reindeer games, and there are those of 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 5: us who talk about it on radio. There are our owners, 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: general managers, head coaches, personnel people, and then of course 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 5: talking heads all in town. Because this happens every single year. 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: Typically Arizona falls amongst the two three year cycle. 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 4: Bottom line is people love to come to Arizona, love 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: to come to Phoenix. Hey we've got the Women's Final 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 4: four later on this week in downtown Phoenix. So yes, 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: you want something done, come to Arizona, and things happen 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 4: when you step foot in this state. 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 5: And all the luminaries were there, all the national media 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 5: types and look this is and it is really an 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 5: intriguing scene. So once you have your media credentials, act 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 5: like you've been there before, rob okay, but you know, 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 5: oh man, look there's Sean McVay walking past, and there's 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: Mike Vrabel and Jerry Jones and Adam Schefter and Pat 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: McAfee and so, I mean, you know, there's a lot 59 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: of national figures just roaming around and doing their job, 60 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: which is to what which to provide and try and 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 5: satiate this unending appetite by NFL fans. There is no 62 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: such thing as the offseason. There's always something going on, 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 5: is perfectly orchestrated until finally after the mandatory mini camp 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 5: in mid June. Then you get about a month respite 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: and it's like, so on. 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: Did you see the photo of all the coaches. Somebody 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: said it appeared as if a couple of guys fractured 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: some ribs sucking it in for the for the photo. 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: Front and center in that photo was Michael Floor sitting 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: next to his brother Matt, and you had the Harbaugh 71 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: brothers as well. So again everyone is in town. Paul 72 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: and I were at the NFC breakfast. It's not really 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: a breakfast, but all the coaches come together in this 74 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: ballroom and each has a table and everyone surrounds the 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: table trying to get questions from all of these head 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: coaches and maybe news breaks. We'll get to some of 77 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 4: that as we continue here on the Cardinals red seat report. 78 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: But it was a chance to hear from Michael Floor. 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: We haven't heard from him often since he was hired 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 4: in January. But big picture, big picture from yesterday's annual 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: League meeting, Michael Fluor talking about how he is approaching 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: his time short time so far as a head coach. 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 6: I just try to set an example for these guys 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 6: by the way I work, you know, I am more 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 6: about kind of work, not words, you know, And so 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 6: we're not going to have a bunch of cute sayings 87 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 6: and slogans all of our buildings. 88 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 7: Stuff like that. 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 6: It's just come to work every single day, put your 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 6: best foot forward, and then we'll see where the chips 91 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 6: fall after that, you know. And typically when those guys 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 6: are working and we're working as coach and they see that, 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 6: a lot of times good stuff can happen. 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: Words actions overwords is kind of what you take from 95 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 4: that and lead by example and what you do on 96 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: the field as opposed to what you might be saying, 97 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: although there is some give and take there, rob because 98 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: what you do say matters within those meeting rooms. Yet 99 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: those motivational speaking moments and slogans sometimes and I hear 100 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: Ron Wofully talk about this a lot. Once you get 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 4: to the NFL, you're adults. Yeah, and you shouldn't need 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 4: that raw, raw speech from a head coach in order 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: to play well on game day. 104 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is the NFL, This is grown 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: man's game. This is in college. And a lot of 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: those slogans you know, you got you got them all 107 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: over the facilities in college. 108 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 8: I get it. 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: You know, these high school kids, kids coming out of 110 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: high school, they need a little external motivation, but at 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: this level, you don't need that, and the guys don't 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: want it. 113 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 8: In fact, they don't. They don't like that. They don't 114 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 8: like that. 115 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: They see that as you know, not genuine, and they 116 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: see it as fake. And so the players, the players 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: will respond to you know what Michael LeFleur is able 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: to do versus say, and so that that goes a 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: long way, and they're really gonna for the most part, 120 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: have their their opening introduction to him coming up with 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: mini camps. 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: You know, you talk about the learning curve for a 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 5: first time NFL head coach Cliff Kingsbury coming out of 124 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: the college game, there was a genuine learning curve, he 125 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 5: admitted as much. Jonathan Gannon not so much. Been in 126 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 5: the NFL for a number same with Mike Lafleur. He's 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: been in the NFL for better than a decade with 128 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: two of the best to literally ever do it in 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan Sean McVay. So he knows the manner in 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: which he wants to approach the job and I you know, 131 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 5: to hear him talk about I'm not coming in with 132 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 5: any sayings. None of that is going to move the 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 5: meter because it just doesn't. And ultimately that's not going 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: to make a difference. The culture you're going to establish 135 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 5: is going to be founded, at least at this point 136 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 5: on the calendar, just around genuine hard work. 137 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: And I think that's what players want most of all, 138 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: is you to be genuine and not be someone you're 139 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: not or try to pretend to be someone you're not. Again, 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: we are month three into the Mike laflor Era here 141 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: with the Arizona Cardinals. Although Mike does have a bit 142 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: of a reputation as far as being in the league 143 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: and being with different stops across the league, as far 144 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: as teams and who he's learned under. So we take 145 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: it back to Indianapolis and this guy in Combine had 146 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: a chance to sit down with Daniel Jeremiah and Cardinals 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: Cover two and we asked him about Lafleura on what 148 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: he knows about him and the potential here in Arizona. 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 9: Everybody says two things about him. Number one is a 150 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 9: super good dude, so you can enjoy being around him, 151 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 9: like he's just a good dude to be around. And 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 9: number two is he's he's really really smart, like he's 153 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 9: going to be at the forefront of where things are 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 9: and being with McVeigh. I mean, that's the lab, and 155 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 9: that's the lab that's produced basically the offense. The entire 156 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 9: league is running some variation of what they've done there. 157 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 9: So I'm excited to see where he takes this thing. 158 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 9: It's gonna be a real exciting era here. He gonna 159 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 9: get this draft taken care of, get more of a 160 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 9: foundation in place. But I think you'll do a really 161 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 9: good job. 162 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: So that's someone in Daniel Jeremiah who might have had 163 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: a handful of interactions with Michael Laflor. But what about 164 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: guys who have had real hands on experience with Michae Lafoor, 165 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: Guys who have played under Micha Laflor, meaning Kendrick Bourne, 166 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: who Michae Lafoor was his position coach his first two 167 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: seasons in San Francisco, spent three seasons in San Francisco overall, 168 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne on what we might not quite know yet 169 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: about Michae Lafoor but will eventually. 170 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 8: Mike has great energy. 171 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 10: He may not show it at a time, but like 172 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 10: he is very energetic. He he kind of got like 173 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 10: Sean McVay vibes, you know, gonna be high energy, passionate 174 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 10: about the game. And that may be something they know, 175 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 10: but I think he tries to hide it a little bit, 176 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. He tried to pull he cool. 177 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 10: He is cool, but he got high energy and and 178 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 10: he he knows how to operate a team, and I'm 179 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 10: excited to see how it goes. He's just a special 180 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 10: person in me and the opportunity's given me, it means 181 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 10: a lot. So I'm gonna run through a wall for 182 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 10: that guy. 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: Man. Energy does not lack with Kendrick porn paul In. 184 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: It's something that we've seen with Michae Laflora as well. 185 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: But the other word that popped up, and this was 186 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: something that Mike talked about yesterday about what he learned 187 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: under Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay urgency each day, big deal. 188 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: Do what you need to do that day to get 189 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: better and not worry too much about what's to come. 190 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: But have the urgency within that meeting room, the urgency 191 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: within that practice to get better for what you hope 192 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: to be successful on Sunday. 193 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 5: You know, if you think of Kyle Shannon, I think 194 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: about breaking your own tendencies from week to week, from 195 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: half to half within a game. He's always so unpredictable, 196 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 5: always keeps the defense honest. Then you go to Sean 197 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 5: McVay and Mike Laflour talked about this yesterday, how every 198 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: offseason Sean McVay will strip it down. So like you know, 199 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: you take the car analogy, you're taking it in the garage, 200 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: you take out the engine, right, you're gonna rebuild it, 201 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 5: put it up on blocks. That's what a Sean McVay 202 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: offense of staff does in the offseason. So, you know what, 203 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: I feel good about Mike Lafleur's experience at coming in 204 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: as the first time head coach play caller to be 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: the guy to design this offense from scratch with players 206 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: he's learning on film every single day, has a familiarity 207 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 5: from playing against this team twice. 208 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 8: A year every year. 209 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: But you know what, if you had to hire someone 210 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 5: to go ahead and build an offense from scratch, it 211 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: would seem to me Lafleoor is imminently qualified. 212 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 4: You have your what Laflour talked about, your foundational aspects, 213 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: what you hope to lay the foundation and then you 214 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: build upon that and if you have to, you would adjust, 215 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: much like the Rams did last season when all of 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: a sudden they became a heavy, three tight end offense. 217 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: Very successful at it, but talked about that wasn't the 218 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: plan going into twenty twenty five. It just kind of 219 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: morphed into it because of where they were on the standings, 220 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: and obviously injuries dictated a change offensively. 221 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. The best coaches are the ones that adapt 222 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: what they have to do to fit the talent that's available. 223 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: And so, you know, I think the last couple of months, 224 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: what you what you're what really has been happening is 225 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: Michael Lafleur has been breaking it down behind closed doors 226 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: and then trying to build it back up with figuring out, 227 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: you know what we're looking at the roster, forecasting where 228 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: the roster is going to be. Obviously the draft will 229 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: have a big part in that. But with the assets 230 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: that we have, with the players that we have, what 231 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: type of offense are we going to run? And what's 232 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: the terminology going to be? You know, because he pulls 233 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: right from McVeigh system, from Shanahan's system, so this this 234 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: could be kind of a hybrid type offensive scheme. But 235 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: also what's interesting is, with with all his history in 236 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: the NFC West, I see Mike Lafleur being a huge 237 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: help to Nick Rawlis and the defense and what that 238 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: will look like and tinkering with that year over year 239 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: and what that defense will look like next year. 240 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: They've had conversations Mike Laflora and Nick Rallis. Laflour brought 241 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 4: that up during the breakfast on Monday, and I think 242 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: that relationship is only going to get better and stronger. 243 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 4: Maybe to Rob's point, Paul as far as, Okay, this 244 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: is what we saw from Afar on the Rams sideline. 245 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 4: Here's how we countered. Now you figure out a counter 246 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 4: to that. 247 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm Kyle Shannan and Sean McVay, I'm wondering, 248 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: wait a minute, how well does he know what I 249 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 5: like to run? How well is he going to be 250 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: able to advise his defensive coordinator to stop my scheme 251 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: and what I'm trying to do. And if I'm Mike 252 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: McDonald up in Seattle, guess what the Rams did in 253 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: those last two games. They put four hundred and fifty 254 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 5: and over five hundred total yards on that Seattle defense, 255 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,119 Speaker 5: which was one of the best in the league obviously, 256 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: so I think that that's on the radar for the 257 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 5: other three head coaches. 258 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: We talk more about miche lafore and the topic that 259 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: will not go away. 260 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 8: That's quarterback. 261 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: Next here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio. 262 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: Network for Sette calling for the shotgun step deep drop 263 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: seven steps, throws deep middle of the field and the 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 2: catch is made inside the ten yards line by Trey McBride. 265 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: He's tackled at the eighth, but it's the first in goal. 266 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: After each twenty five yard pass play, I'm third and 267 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: seventeen Prisett takes, he'll drop back. It's a pass play, 268 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: a boot to the right, throws to the right and 269 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: it's caught by McBride and he secures it for the 270 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: touchdown as he goes. 271 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 8: To the ground. 272 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: Brissett, with six of six on that drive that was impressive, 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: sets up deep and the Falconal steps up to run. 274 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: Farside gets rid of the pass at the last second, 275 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: caught on the far side for a first down. Higgins 276 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: half the thirty twenty five penn down to the twenty 277 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,479 Speaker 2: three a gain of twenty four And how about Jacoby 278 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: Forsett scrambling on the play but keeping it alive and 279 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: throwing it downfield for the first down. You can't say 280 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: enough about Jacoby percent and what he's been able to 281 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: do today. 282 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: Started twelve of fourteen games played last season, finished with 283 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: career high numbers in six different categories, including completion percentage, 284 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: passing yards, and passing touchdowns. Jacoby Brissett's in twenty twenty five, 285 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: and we think at least perhaps on paper nothing's been announced, 286 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: but QB one going into twenty twenty six, then you've 287 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: got Gardner, Minshew Keaten Slovis, and perhaps a fourth in 288 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: the draft that is to be seen. 289 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 8: But it was the. 290 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: First question, and there were several questions Paul directed to 291 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: Mike Lafleura during the annual league meeting and Laflora's availability 292 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: on Monday. First question about Kyler, wishing him all the bests, 293 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: and then it dive into why Jacoby, why Gardner, mintche 294 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: you and what do you want in a quarterback with 295 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: your offense that you are going to run in twenty 296 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: twenty six. 297 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: I mean, Craig, you're ignoring Ty Simpson and number three overall, 298 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what your guys. That's what your guy 299 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 5: Charles Davis has in his latest mock draft. So you know, 300 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 5: let's I mean, come on, the elephant in the room here. Look, 301 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 5: here's here's the situation Micha laflor talking about, and we're 302 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 5: gonna hear from him just the experience he has in 303 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: the room. To me, is it right for a rookie quarterback? 304 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: Abs a stink and loutely. I don't know who, I 305 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 5: don't know where it might come, but I'm pretty dang 306 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 5: confident they want to put a rookie quarterback in that 307 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 5: room with all that experience, all that NFL equity between 308 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett Gardner Minshew. To hear Mike Lafloor talk about, 309 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 5: and he's more knowledgeable about Gardner Minshew than we realized. 310 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: Just what a baller and you know how how into 311 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: the game Gardner Minshew is. You know, there's a lot 312 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: of work ethic, there's a lot of football IQ in 313 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: that room right now that I think would rub off 314 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: real well on any rookie quarterback experience. 315 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: Not lacking within that room. Jacobi's got over one hundred games, 316 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: Gardner over sixty games, and I think that was brought 317 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: up a couple of different times, Monday, Rob because as 318 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: a first time head coach, Yeah, he doesn't have working 319 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: knowledge with either one of those quarterbacks, at least on 320 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: the NFL level. But from afar, he's watched those two 321 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: and has sees something in them that potentially could be, 322 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: in Lafleur's words, a good fit within the offense here. 323 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the signing of Gardner Minshew kind of, 324 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: if you're reading the tea leaves, kind of indicates that, Okay, 325 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: we have a really good backup here for Jacoby Brissett. 326 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: We're probably gonna draft a quarterback that that's gonna maybe 327 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: require a year or two to learn. And and so 328 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: you know, if they if they take it, if Michael 329 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: Leaflor finds his quarterback guy that he loves in this 330 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: draft and the Cardinals are able to get that player, 331 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: he's gonna probably sit. He's gonna sit behind Jacoby Brissett, 332 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 3: and then you got a capable backup and Gardner Minshew. 333 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 8: Ready, I mean there are. 334 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: Two kinds of backups in this league, proven and unknown. 335 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: Last year, when Kyler Murray was your franchise quarterback, you 336 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 5: signed a proven backup quarterback in Jacoby Brissett. Now that 337 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett ostensibly is QB one, you want to proven 338 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 5: backup Gardner Minshew. Does that preclude you from making other 339 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 5: moves or additions to the room. No, but at least 340 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 5: right now you can go into the season with a 341 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 5: QB one and QB two that you know you can 342 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 5: win with. 343 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: How about we hear from the Cardinals head coach first 344 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: Micha Lafloor talking about Jacoby Brissett again has not worked 345 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: with him, but believes that Jacoby brings everything needed to 346 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: be a quarterback within this offense. 347 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 8: Excited to work with him. 348 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 6: You know they'll be getting here on the seventh for 349 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 6: you know, to start of Phase one, and I can't lie, 350 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 6: so I just like to tell him, like, dude, like 351 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: for years, I've always thought you'd be a really good 352 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 6: fit for this system. He's I mean, you guys see 353 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 6: how big he is back there, his stature of the 354 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 6: play action game. I think he does a good job 355 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 6: of getting the ball, you know, out of his hands 356 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 6: when there is some trouble with the pocket. 357 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 8: So it'd be fun. 358 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: So that's Lafleor on Jacoby Brissett now working wise within 359 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: the NFL. No Laflora and Gardner Minshew have not crossed paths, 360 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: But before Gardner got into the NFL, there was some 361 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: interaction back of the twenty nineteen Senior Bowl when Laflora 362 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 4: was on the forty nine ers staff and helped work 363 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl. Something la Floor brought up at the 364 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: annual league meeting on Monday. 365 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 6: This guy is a maniac. 366 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 8: Now it was. 367 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 6: It was good and he just reached out to me 368 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 6: and wanted the playbook and then he could we do 369 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 6: a FaceTime And I sat outside, just had kind of 370 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 6: my stuff out there, and I mean, I don't know 371 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 6: if we went four hours, but it sure felt that way, 372 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 6: and it was really cool, and it was it told 373 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 6: me a lot about who that guy is. And again, 374 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 6: sometimes you know guys that over prepare, they kind of 375 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: overthink it too, and that's that's not him, that's just 376 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 6: his process. 377 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 4: That extended to this offseason because Lafleur also brought up 378 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: that Minshew when he was signed here for the Cardinals 379 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 4: Day one, wanted the playbook, wanted as much information as 380 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 4: possible to dive right in now. Again, the offense right 381 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: now is still a little bit of a work in progress. 382 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: But how much can you tell me right now so 383 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: I can get up to speed or maybe even a 384 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 4: little bit of ahead, because I'm coming into a brand 385 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: new situation. 386 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, slow down, Gardner. 387 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: We don't even We're not We're still on page three here, 388 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: we haven't even put the playbook together yet. But you know, 389 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: I love I love his enthusiasm and his desire to 390 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 3: get ahead of things and get ahead of this offense 391 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: and really to absorb as much as he can, as 392 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: soon as he can. And so you have to respect that. 393 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: And you know, I love what Lafleur said about jacobset 394 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: that that he is tailor made for this offense, that 395 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: he fits it, and the type of quarterback that Jacoby 396 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 3: Brissett is, And and I feel the same way about 397 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: the offensive line. I think I think the offensive line 398 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: love blocking for Jacoby Brissett or a quarterback like him, 399 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 3: because it's predictable. They know where he's gonna be. If 400 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: it's a five step drop, it's a seven step step drop, 401 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: they know where he's gonna be. He's gonna pu, he's 402 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: gonna move up in the pocket. So those those blocking 403 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: angles are are predetermined, and they know where their quarterback 404 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: is gonna be. It makes their job much easier and 405 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: they play with more confidence. 406 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 5: And they know he'll hang in the pocket. They know 407 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: he will wait till the last possible moment to get 408 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 5: rid of the ball, let a receiver have that extra 409 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: half step, get some separation, get downfield, and they respect that. 410 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 8: We all know. 411 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 5: We know that just the way the offensive line spoke 412 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 5: about Jacoby Brissett, just with our own eyes witnessing some 413 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: of the vicious hits he took hanging in the pocket. 414 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 5: How he'd sort of come to the sideline and the 415 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 5: trainers be all over him being shake him off. He's on, Oh, 416 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 5: just give me a minute, give me a cup of 417 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 5: Gator eight, and then he'd be back out for the 418 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 5: next series. Think about everything Jacoby Brissett didn't have last year, 419 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 5: an intact, consistent offensive line, thirteen different offensive linemen used 420 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 5: by the Cardinals, eight different starting offensive line combinations by 421 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 5: the end of the year. He didn't have a running game, 422 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: He had a fifth and six string running backs. You 423 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 5: had a team that was behind quite a bit, so 424 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 5: they were one dimensional going to the air. I think 425 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 5: everyone looks forward to seeing Jacoby Brissett if you can 426 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: upgrade the offensive line, give him a formidable, irrespectable run game. Okay, 427 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: because once again he has a historically low interception percentage. 428 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 4: You bring up the stat a lot, Paul about the 429 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: Cardinals last season as an offense, no one attempted more passes, 430 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: no one attempted fewer rushes. And we go back and 431 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: how many times did we see Jacoby drop back forty 432 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: plus times a game? But the one game in which 433 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 4: it was under forty at Dallas Monday Night Football, the 434 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: one game Jacoby Brisset won because the offense won, played 435 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: with a lead and there was somewhat of a balanced 436 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 4: attack throwing and rushing. Other than that, Jacoby didn't have 437 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: that at his disposal last season. 438 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great point. It's a great recollection. And 439 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: you know what, it's a direct correlation to why you 440 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: got the win. You were a balanced offense. You had 441 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 5: the ability to stay balanced for the course of the game. 442 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 5: So now I think no one is looking forward more 443 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: to the offseason upgrades and to perhaps this scheme. Then 444 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: as Jacoby Brissett and the weapons, of course, they see 445 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 5: some of the numbers that forty nine ers and rams 446 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: receivers have put up over the years. 447 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: So we mentioned who's in the room and the possibility 448 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: of adding to that room. Talking about the quarterback room, 449 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 4: one more from Micha laflor yesterday at the Annual League 450 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 4: Meeting on what he looked for in a college quarterback. 451 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: One toughness, Like if you can't sit back in the 452 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 6: pocket and you're a non no flinch guy, or you're 453 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 6: flinching back there, you've got no chance, right, So just 454 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: the ability to sit back there. Now, what you got 455 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 6: to decipher is a lot of times guys aren't in 456 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 6: those pockets, you know, particularly the smaller school whatever it is, 457 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 6: because you're not going against those pass rushes. But there 458 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 6: are a handful that you can find that you got 459 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 6: to say, you know, is that it or is it not? 460 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 6: Then natural thrower, like is it coming out? So you 461 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 6: can pack all that decision making, timing, accuraciving. There's so 462 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 6: many factors that go into quarterback play. But if you 463 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 6: don't have toughness, you can't sit in that pocket. You're 464 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 6: not a natural thrower. It's hard to play in the sleep. 465 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 4: And just think of the quarterbacks that Laflora has worked with, 466 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: A Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan. Guys who will stand in 467 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: that pocket. We just discussed Jacoby Brissette standing in that 468 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: pocket and then being able to move around in that 469 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: pocket to buy a little bit more time. More times 470 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: than not, those quotas are going to be the ones 471 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: that are successful as opposed to guys with some athleticism 472 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: but don't stay in the pocket a whole lot. 473 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I wonder these traits that that 474 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: coaches look for, that Lafleur looks for in a quarterback 475 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: coming out of college, is the college game preparing these 476 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: quarterbacks for that type of game, because you know, so 477 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: much in the college game is out of shotgun and 478 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: quarterbacks moving around and using their athleticism. But you know, 479 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 3: that athleticism kind of evens out when you get to 480 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: the next level. When you get to the NFL, all 481 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're not able to outrun a two 482 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five pound defensive end. So, you know, 483 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 3: you look at some of these quarterbacks that are in 484 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: this draft, and beyond ty Simpson, there's some guys that 485 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: have some. 486 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 8: Of those traits. 487 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: So got some big, big quarterbacks with with big arms 488 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: and all the talent, but maybe for whatever reason. Last 489 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: season they fell off a little bit, didn't didn't have 490 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: the best of seasons. But these guys, there are some 491 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: players here that have some good talent. 492 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 5: So Rob, what you're saying is when the Cardinals take 493 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 5: Carson Beck, a top round three, you know, at six 494 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 5: foot five, big arm, lots of experience, forty plus collegiate starts, Georgia, 495 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 5: Miami all the way to the National title Game. So 496 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 5: you're saying, get ready because that's a good fit for 497 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: Micha Lafleur. 498 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: I don't think it would be a bad fit. I 499 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: like Drew Aller, you know, club Neck, you got new Smyers. 500 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: So look, there's some decent quarterbacks here. There are just 501 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: a little like diamonds in the rough. 502 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: I think, well, did you happen to see the news 503 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: reported earlier by the NFL Network, a reported top thirty 504 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: visit for the Arizona Cardinals. Two quarterbacks did not? I Simpson, 505 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 4: Carson Beck there we go. 506 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 8: All right. 507 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 5: I'm telling you right now, if you can get Carson 508 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: back there, pick number sixty five. He has all those starts. 509 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 5: A year and a half ago, to start the twenty 510 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 5: four season, he was viewed as the number one quarterback 511 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: in the draft, just saying. 512 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: Carson Beck also reportedly meeting or having visits with the 513 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: Dolphins and Steelers as well. So it is the silly 514 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 4: season is we like to call it here ahead of 515 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: the draft. It's the Arizona Cardinoles Radio network. 516 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: A first down per set back to pass Rose left 517 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: into the end zone. Michael Wilson. Oh, he caught it 518 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: and it's a touchdown. Michael Wilson had Lasseter all over 519 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: him and he came down with that ball for six. 520 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 8: What uh catch? 521 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 11: He talked about this. The system is going to be 522 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 11: built organically around the players, but I'm sure he's gonna 523 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 11: take and sprinkle in a lot of the McVay system 524 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 11: and the Shanahan system. It seems like all those guys 525 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 11: that played for those organizations played really well and maximize 526 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 11: their playability and their play speed and honestly turning the superstars. 527 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 11: Looking at me, Marvin Trey like, I'm excited to, you know, 528 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 11: get with an offensive guy who hopefully can you know, 529 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 11: maximum as all of our skill sets and I'm so 530 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 11: excited to get to work. 531 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Michael Olson is definitely excited, he sees as 532 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: does everyone else in that Cardinals wide receiver room or 533 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: tight end room or running back room, sees where Michae 534 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 4: Laflor came from Los Angeles, the Rams, how successful they 535 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: were offensively, and players some in the building rehabbing, but 536 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 4: all players will be back in the building next week. 537 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: The offseason program strength and conditioning begins a week from today. 538 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: There is a veteran optional voluntary mini camp the week 539 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: of the NFL drafts the Landatory. Hey, when you have 540 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: a new boss, in this case a new head coach. Yeah, yeah, 541 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: it's voluntary, but who's here, who's not here? You want 542 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: to make that first impression, not just Michaelaflor, but those 543 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 4: players to the new coaches. 544 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: Well, especially if the new coach wants to establish a 545 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: little long order here, you know, as some backup not 546 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: showing up for the first voluntary training session and gets 547 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: cut or something. 548 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 8: I don't know, but I do wonder. 549 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there'll be a moment maybe not at this 550 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 5: point on the calendar, but in training camp where you know, 551 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 5: he makes an example out of someone. Bruce Arians yelling 552 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 5: at oh, I don't know, Larry Fitzgerald three days into 553 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 5: camp because Larry had made a mental mistake for the 554 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 5: second or third time, you know there might be a 555 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: moment like that. I know, in hindsight, Jonathan Gannon three 556 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 5: years ago came in quote heavy because ownership felt like 557 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 5: there was an accountability issue coming off the previous regime. 558 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 5: He got everyone's attention. And to your point, Craig, they're 559 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 5: well aware there's a new boss, new decision maker. And 560 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: I mean, you tell me, Rob, you played for enough 561 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 5: new coaches and went to enough new teams, there's got 562 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: to be a sense among players. Okay, yes, here's my resume, 563 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: but you have to prove it again to a whole 564 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 5: new set of eyes and decision makers who are out 565 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: on that field. 566 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 8: Right. 567 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when you're going to a new team as 568 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 3: a free agent or just a new draft pick, you 569 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: want to do everything you can to to put your 570 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: best foot forward to impress the new coaching staff. And 571 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's a lot of it too. That just 572 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 3: depends on the culture that's there and that's established. If 573 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: if nobody if everybody scatters when the when the off 574 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: season comes and nobody's around until mandatory mini camp, that's 575 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: a that's a tough culture to really, you know, gain 576 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: some momentum, uh with the new guys. So I think, 577 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: I think what they have here with Arizona and their 578 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: their participation in the off season program is significant, and 579 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: it's they've done a good job of really building that 580 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: and that's that's something to continue to build on. 581 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 5: I mean, other than Buddha Baker, Trey McBride, Josh Sweat, 582 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 5: those are the only three made men in that locker 583 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 5: room who are automatically going to be plugging featured starters 584 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: right from the get Even a Michael Wilson finished with 585 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: a flourish But is he wide receiver one? Is he 586 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 5: wide receiver two? He's up for a contract. He's gonna 587 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: have to come out and continue to prove himself. 588 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 4: So there's excitement and then also some nervousness. You're unsure 589 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: about your role despite of what you might have done 590 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 4: a year ago or five years ago. But you're here now, 591 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: guys that are returning, how do I fit? Am I 592 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: gonna continue to do what I do? Am I gonna 593 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 4: be asked to do something differently? And if I am, 594 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: is it gonna make me? You need to let me 595 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: know how it's gonna make me a better player? Because 596 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: now we hear players want to know the why They 597 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: don't want to be just told what to do. But 598 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 4: why am I doing this? Not maybe selfishly for my 599 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: own benefit, but how does this help us as. 600 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: A team, Especially new players, I think they want the 601 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: answer to that before they signed, before they'd agree to 602 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: to a new team. They want to know how you're 603 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: gonna use me, right, you know, because not only is 604 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: that important for the success of myself individually but for 605 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: the team. But you know that individually, you know that 606 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: that's gonna determine how I'm used, how much I'm used, 607 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 3: what's gonna be my success, and that's gonna everything builds 608 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: towards the next contract. And so yeah, players want to 609 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: know how they're gonna be used, especially when you have 610 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: a new coaching staff coming in. 611 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: Some of this, though, is still unknown. Specifically when you 612 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: talk about this offense, Yeah, you might have an idea, 613 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: you put it on paper, but is it successful when 614 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 4: you get on the football field. At the annual league meeting, 615 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 4: Michael Floor asked, where is the offense at this point? 616 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 8: Here? 617 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: Late March, I like, where. 618 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 8: We're at right now? 619 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 6: Again, it's just pen on paper right now, right, it's 620 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 6: just visio. Like that's not real football, you know, and 621 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 6: what we'll tell these guys is, I mean, these are 622 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 6: foundational aspects. This is the way we're going to operate. 623 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 6: Here's the plays, this is how we make it come 624 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 6: to life. And we have to show them and we 625 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 6: have to rep it thousands of times to the point 626 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 6: that they don't even know they're reping anymore, that they're 627 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 6: just doing it, you know. So there's a lot of 628 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 6: work to be done between now in September, but we've 629 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 6: got time. 630 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: Did you happen to catch Paul when I can't remember 631 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: if it was Darren or Zach or someone might have 632 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: asked about the skilled position players and a James Carner 633 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: and Marvin Harrison and Michael Wilson. And then the answer 634 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 4: Micha laflor brings up Tip Riman and how excited he 635 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: is to have one, hopefully knock on wood, Tip is healthy, 636 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: and then how Tip figures into this offense along the 637 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, a why tight end and how much 638 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: he might be able to be utilized. So that was 639 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: a name that I was not expected to hear over 640 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: the thirty minutes on Monday, But it was Lafleur who 641 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: brought him up, not asked about So if you're watching film, 642 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 4: if you're coach laflor and you're coming from a team 643 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: that led the world in thirteen personnel a year ago, 644 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: and you're seeing Big eighty seven Tip middle name, who 645 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: wants some Ryman, and he's out there and he's destroying dudes, 646 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: and you're thinking, oh, man, you know what this guy, 647 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: this guy could be a real epicenter or lynchpin in 648 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 4: my offense. We can run behind this guy. We can 649 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 4: get this guy in motion. He has good enough athleticism. 650 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 4: We know Elijah Higgins of the Phoenix open with Trey McBride, 651 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 4: he was smiling wide because he's envisioning how the three 652 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 4: of them are going to be used as a trio 653 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: based on how the rams us thirteen personnel a year ago. 654 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: So no doubt, no doubt that caught Mike Lafleur's eyes. 655 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: So everyone's just holding that Tip Ryman is ready to 656 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: go and start, ready to come off the line and 657 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: pick up where he left off a year ago. On 658 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: that same topic, as far as trying to get an 659 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: idea of what this offense might look like again from 660 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: Afar but Tyler Algier, one of the first signings reported 661 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: signings before it became official, was brought here for a 662 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 4: specific reason and has no experience under Mike laflor But again, 663 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: watching from afar, what Tyler Algier expects in this Lafloor. 664 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 7: Offense, excided about the opportunity. I think, obviously we've seen 665 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 7: how successful the Rams are, so being able to have 666 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 7: coach Lafleur here and she being able to possibly possibly replicated, 667 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 7: I think that's the goal. I think they're bringing in 668 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 7: a lot of guys to build that, so I think 669 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 7: just building a team just to get some wins. So 670 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 7: I think that's the most important thing. 671 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 4: It's part of a larger conversation Paul and I had 672 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: with Algier on Cardinals cover two after Algier was formally introduced. 673 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 4: But a lot of players you're hearing the same thing, 674 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson off the top of this segment, I see 675 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 4: what the Rams did so successfully, can it be replicated 676 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 4: here or at least put in place for us to 677 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 4: try to be successful? Because right now, Rob, that's all 678 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 4: you have with a first time head coach. There's nothing else. 679 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: There's no game film, Like what kind of a head 680 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: coach is Laflour going to be? What kind of a 681 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: play caller. Is he going to be Maybe you go 682 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: back and look at what he he did with the Jets, 683 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 4: but that was several years ago, and you hope that 684 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 4: he has learned from those lessons, the good and the bad, 685 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: to become his own version of a head coach in 686 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: the NFL. 687 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Tyler Algier does not have fumbles. 688 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 3: You know, that's something that this guy just doesn't do. 689 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: So I think he's going to be a great addition 690 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 3: to the running back room and just a piggyback off 691 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: what you said about Elijah Higgins out at the Phoenix Open. 692 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 3: I actually talked to him out there at the Special 693 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: Olympics putting contest and he was giving me breaking down 694 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: for me the stats of all the top four tight 695 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: ends for the Rams last year. And not only in 696 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: terms of their their receptions, in their yards and their touchdowns, 697 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: but they're their usage right, their snap counts sure, and 698 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 3: giving me like numbers. 699 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 8: I mean, this guy did go to Stanford. 700 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 5: He's got all the targets, he's got all the pass percentages, everything, 701 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 5: in no doubt about that. I mean, they're well aware 702 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 5: of those guys are getting towards the point in their 703 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 5: contracts where they are in line for a payday. So 704 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 5: if they can get bigger usage usually ends up in 705 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 5: bigger dollars and a bigger bottom line. So I did 706 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: ask one on one yesterday for bird watch this week, 707 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 5: the signing of Tyler Aljier head coach Michael Lafleur, his style. 708 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 5: What does this say about the style of run game 709 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 5: you want to employ? He smiled, didn't quite answer it directly, 710 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 5: but he smiled. There's no doubt they want to go 711 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 5: north south and cram it vertical. 712 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 4: Coati's ahead to this weekend Cardinals Birdwatch and an exclusive 713 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: interview with you and Danny Shrek with the Cardinals head coach. 714 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 5: You know, he made called an audible, made a little 715 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 5: time for us. He had a packed itinerary, but we 716 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: appreciate him. 717 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 4: The Q and A on the fly. Everyone's got time 718 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 4: for Danny. I'm not sure about Paul, but everyone has 719 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 4: time for Danny Shrek. 720 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 5: Facts. 721 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 4: More on the annual league meeting when we come back, 722 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 4: and potential of a joint practice with the Packers this offseason. 723 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 4: That's next here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 724 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Land bow. 725 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 8: Man. 726 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 4: I wish i'd have known. 727 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 8: That was coming. 728 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 4: WHOA, whoa? 729 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: Did you know that was coming? 730 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 8: I had no idea. I looked up and all of 731 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 8: a sudden, a couple. 732 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 3: Of f eighteen hornets right over the stadium. 733 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 12: I'm surprised you're still alive after that. WHOA, Hello, get 734 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 12: a doctor in here. I had no idea if that 735 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 12: was coming. 736 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 8: I believe that's buzzing the tower. 737 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 4: Memo to Dave Pash if he is in Green Bay 738 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: for the reported joint practice, the NFL just needs its 739 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 4: stamp of approval. It's gonna happen Cardinals and Packers a 740 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: joint practice, perhaps ahead of a preseason game. By the way, 741 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 4: that flyover in two thousand and six, Pash is not 742 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: going to have to worry about to fly over during a. 743 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 8: Joint practice ball. 744 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone has to worry about that happened. 745 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 5: I almost went under the bench on the sideline, and 746 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 5: the Green Bay press box is atop the stadium, so 747 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 5: you can only imagine. Yes, in the audio there brought 748 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 5: it to life. That was very real, a very real reaction, 749 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 5: real time reaction. Wisconsin native day Pash, though he can 750 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 5: go back a little joint practice action there in the green. 751 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: Bay area big man on campus. 752 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 5: It'll be good for Dave. It'll be good he can 753 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 5: come back, you know as an ESPN national guy and 754 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 5: flex a little bit on the hometown guys. 755 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 4: Yep, still some details that need to be work. Data 756 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 4: was originally reported a few weeks ago from a Green 757 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 4: Bay reporter. Micha Laflora asked about it on Monday at 758 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 4: the annual league meeting and pretty much confirm that, yes, 759 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 4: it's going to happen, because, as Lafleur mentioned, he likes 760 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 4: what happens when you have the ability to go up 761 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 4: against another opponent during training camp and likes these joint practices. 762 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 6: I love joint practices, you know, because you get to 763 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 6: hit somebody else, you get to see, you know, somewhat 764 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 6: of a different scheme. Now, I know someone's gonna probably 765 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 6: ass well JG's kind of probably a similar scheme. They're 766 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 6: gonna do whatever Green Bay is gonna do now, you know, 767 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 6: and he's gonna fit it to their players, and yeah, 768 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 6: the scheme and all that, but we're going against different players, 769 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 6: different corners, different deal, we're blocking different guys. Training camp 770 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 6: is long, and so for the same team to be 771 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 6: hitting each other for that many weeks in a row. 772 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 6: You've got to break it up. You just have to, 773 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 6: because inevitably, we all know what's gonna happen after you 774 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 6: keep hitting your own brother for a while. 775 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: Speaking of brothers, Yeah, the storylines are gonna write themselves 776 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 4: that particular week or however many days the Cardinals are 777 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 4: in Green Bay. But you got Micha Laflor Matt lafor 778 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon on Matt's staff. So yeah, it's it's gonna 779 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: be a lot of a reunion if you will, But 780 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 4: there is work that needs to be done during those 781 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 4: time together. 782 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, now, And I think a lot of teams are 783 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 3: starting to do this. It's it's a true way to 784 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 3: evaluate talent because your players, when they're going against each 785 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: other in training camp, they get used to each other. 786 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 3: They understand each other's tendencies. So you start to cheat. 787 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: You start to know what you're the guy across from 788 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: you who's gonna do. And so when you're going against 789 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: guys that you don't normally see, that you don't see 790 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: every week, you know, it's a tougher and a truer 791 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: test of really individual talent. And I see a lot 792 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 3: of teams doing this in advance of a preseason game, 793 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 3: and it just makes so much sense. 794 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 5: You know, there's a school of thought that is the 795 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 5: NFL goes to eighteen regular season games because it's coming 796 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 5: and there's two preseason games that they will start to 797 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 5: televise some of these joint practices in August, and that. 798 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 4: Is like a spring game exact college. 799 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 5: I mean, if people are going to sit around and 800 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 5: watch the combine for four or five days, you think 801 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 5: they watch a joint practice where two teams are going 802 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 5: to go against it and you know, tempers might be 803 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 5: flaring in any moment there's actually real hitting going on. 804 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 5: I think that that is in the near future of 805 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 5: the NFL when it comes to this insatiable appetite for 806 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 5: more and more content, that is something that, don't be surprised, 807 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 5: might end up on the airwaves in the real near future. 808 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 4: Well, with a joint practice as well, it's a controlled environment. 809 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 4: And these coaches, and we've heard previous Cardinals head coaches 810 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 4: speak about this that ahead of the joint practice, whether 811 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 4: it's one or two days, they'll get together. All right, 812 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 4: we're kind of thin in this area depending on injuries, 813 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 4: so let's kind of go easy on this area of 814 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 4: the game, or it's we really need to work on 815 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 4: our defense or our pas sets, or really bring it 816 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 4: to us and bring the blitz, or offensively, just run 817 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 4: what you do. Pretend it's week one, and you can 818 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: kind of go back and forth. You help me, I 819 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 4: help you, and together we'll be in a better place 820 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 4: after the joint practice is ahead of the preseason game. 821 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a lot of secrets, right. The players 822 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: don't know what coming, but the coaching staffs they all 823 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 3: get together and they go through, as you said, and 824 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: kind of come to an understanding of what's really what 825 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 3: they want to accomplish out of each each drill, each period, 826 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 3: what they want to accomplish, and how the level I 827 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 3: guess of intensity that they're going to go at. And 828 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: so you know, if you have it for multiple days 829 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 3: and multiple padded practices, I think these players they love it. 830 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 3: First of all, the players do love it. They enjoy 831 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: it because they get tired of hitting their own teammates. 832 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 3: And then you know, I think it's very beneficial, as 833 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 3: I said before, for the coaching staff in terms of evaluation. 834 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, the old saying exposure or get exposed. You go 835 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 5: back three years ago at Minnesota, the Cardinals came out 836 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 5: of that two day session against the Vikings and said, 837 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 5: you know what, we need to bolster the quarterback room 838 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 5: and they trade it for Josh Dobbs as they waited 839 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 5: for Kyler Murray to come back from a knee injury. 840 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 5: So you can get out against a different team and 841 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you know, live sessions for the 842 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 5: most part, where you don't know what's coming offense or defense, 843 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 5: and you can look like an entirely different player. 844 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 4: And to your point, Paul, about perhaps potentially televising these 845 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 4: joint practices, because how many times have we heard players 846 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 4: your starters, your first unit, your key rotational pieces. They'll 847 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 4: go full speed during that joint practice Wednesday, Thursday or 848 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 4: Thursday Friday, and then they'll be spectators on the sideline 849 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 4: for the game itself. Now that's true of their own 850 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 4: benefit because they got in their work for that particular week. 851 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 4: They don't need to go overboard for a preseason game. 852 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 4: But the potential of a spring game quote unquote in 853 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 4: the NFL, that could be something that gets discussed because, 854 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 4: as you said, it's all about content. How do you 855 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 4: maximize the content when if you go from seventeen games 856 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 4: to eighteen with another bye week, and now the players 857 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 4: are saying, right, what are you giving us? Well, we'll 858 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 4: reduce preseason games. 859 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I'll go one further. What if you took 860 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 5: Cardinals Packers and you put it in Lambeau a joint 861 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 5: practice for at least one big, glorious joint practice for 862 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 5: two hours, You sold tickets, you televised it. Are you 863 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 5: telling me Packer Nation would not show up for that? 864 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 5: In Green Bay, wisconsinct. 865 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 8: It would be packed. 866 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 5: Absolutely, they come out there, they watch the drills. Oh 867 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 5: wait a minute, we get a line D line Packers 868 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 5: against Cardinals. You get some of the seven on seven, 869 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 5: Buddha Baker going against Jordan Love, Are you kidding me? 870 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 8: Get the music going the Bronts. 871 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 5: You put that on sale right now, it'd be sold 872 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 5: out by this weekend. 873 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 4: Well, let's bring it full circle here on this edition 874 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 4: of the Cardinals Red Seaerport. What did I say off 875 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 4: the top? You don't know who's listening. Maybe Roge, sure 876 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 4: your guy Paul is listening. And if it pops up 877 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 4: on the annual league meeting in twenty twenty seven, we 878 00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 4: know where it originated. 879 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 5: From well, I have a whole nother list of a 880 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 5: thoughts suggestion, so you know I'm still looking for a suggestion. 881 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 5: Box CALVISI Insulting has a whole list ready. 882 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 4: Hey special thanks to everyone behind the scenes, we are 883 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 4: back in one week's time. 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