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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Higheartradiots. In Katie, are you home? You're home now?

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Speaker 2: A right, Katie? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you start? You start shooting on Thursday tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I take the plane. Oh, I take the plane, and

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Speaker 3: I take the plane across the country to Shawlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: And then I go and I quickly drive and they

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Speaker 3: dye my gray hair, and then I go to sleep.

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Speaker 3: Seas I wake up five o'clock in the morning and

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Speaker 3: I shoot all day in a church because I'm the

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Speaker 3: preacher's wife.

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Speaker 1: Wait, but tomorrow's Wednesday, right? Or today's Whendnesday?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Today is Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: No, Today's Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Today Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: Wednesday? I shoot Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Gotcha? Got you? You shoot Thursday.

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Speaker 3: This episode is insane. Yeah, this is where we fuck

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Speaker 3: on the table.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: I always loved it with your answer on your.

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Speaker 2: Ankles doggie style.

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Speaker 3: But we wouldn't have wanted to wrap up season three

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Speaker 3: with any one other than the famous Leo Bergen. We

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Speaker 3: loved that guy.

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Speaker 2: You're so fun to play.

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Speaker 3: We love you, Paul Adelstein. Thank you for being on

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Speaker 3: the podcast. Favorite Leo Bergen line of all time. Do

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Speaker 3: you remember it?

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Speaker 2: Give me another hit of that bourbon and I'll touch

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Speaker 2: your boob. I think was one of them. That's very

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Speaker 2: first monologue.

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Speaker 4: There was something about it smells like failure, it smells

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Speaker 4: like Nixon in seventy two.

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Speaker 2: It was I don't remember exactly what it was.

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Speaker 3: It is incredible when you're like, Nope, I won't work

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Speaker 3: with the president of the United States because is going

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Speaker 3: to lose it.

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Speaker 2: Losers Yeah, yeah, a loser. Yeah good wow.

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Speaker 3: Paul setup as like fucking oh, because you're a musician,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 2: I admire that.

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Speaker 1: I love people they play instruments. I can't play shit.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: You literally can play instruments and read music.

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Speaker 2: Also, I'm doing a podcast, but yeah, I'm a musician,

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Speaker 2: so you are. Yeah, yeah, what is? What is?

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Speaker 4: It's a prison break we watch, which actually we can

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched prison break in a hundred years, but like,

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, which I didn't even at the time.

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Speaker 4: Notice, first of all, the I'm whatokie, we can talk

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Speaker 4: about if it's interesting to talk about, but like prison

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Speaker 4: Break in twenty four felt like Prisoner came right after

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Speaker 2: It was the first time that they did that. Just

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Speaker 2: We have the lash.

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Speaker 3: We're how fucking cool. Leo barget Leo bar Leo barfin

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Speaker 3: Leo Bergen is one of my all time favorite television

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Speaker 3: characters period. It doesn't even have the best Scandal verse,

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Speaker 3: Like he is such a oh my.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, I think we all have.

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Speaker 1: I remember you coming on set and being so excited

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Speaker 1: because you're just so sparky and excited and just cocky.

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Speaker 2: Like your character is so cocky. It's so much fun

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Speaker 2: to watch. I love that You've always loved him.

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Speaker 3: How How did it did Shonda call you and say

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Speaker 3: I've got a role for you? I mean, Liza while

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Speaker 3: And Liza played Amanda Tanner first season of Scandal and

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Speaker 3: also is very big in the Shondaland universe on How

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Speaker 3: to Get Away with Murder? But tell me, Paul, you

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Speaker 3: being private practice, how do you get a call from

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Speaker 3: Shonda Rhimes that says okay, now I want you to

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Speaker 4: So I had done six years of private practice, which

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Speaker 4: This monologue, but like at Scandal pace, and I was

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Speaker 3: Couldn't be further from Cooper.

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Speaker 4: And and then what was doubly exciting for me was

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Speaker 2: I think I probably still know.

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Speaker 3: It was like your you knew abouts of words, but

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Speaker 3: How was it when you get on set with Jeff

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you're like, you know, you're stay in it, get okay,

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Speaker 4: You know, Like I I was very I was confident

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they know what I'm buying, Like they know

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Speaker 4: Like that happened to me on something and it still

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Speaker 3: Think Leo Bergen, I mean, in knowing you and being

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Speaker 2: I have a pocket square, I got cuff links.

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Speaker 1: When I put on those flannels, Paul, listen. But the exhilaration,

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Speaker 1: I felt the trashiness that I felt inside.

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Speaker 2: Right, You're like I want to torture some people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably felt good GI and like the plastic

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Speaker 4: I know that you guys have brought me on this

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Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait to get there. Okay, let's talk

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Speaker 3: bitch is going to a segue. We are talking about

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Speaker 3: episode three eighteen, called The Price of Free and Fair Elections,

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Speaker 3: which aired on April seventeenth in twenty fourteen, and.

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Speaker 1: It was written by Shanda Rhimes and Mark Wilding, and

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Speaker 1: it was directed by the Tom Verica to burst.

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Speaker 3: We Love Him so Much. It was guest starring John

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Speaker 3: Tenny as Andrew Nichols, Dylan Minnette as Jerry Grant Junior,

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Speaker 3: Madeline Carol as Karen Grant. Mackenzie asked it as Noah Baker.

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Speaker 1: Paul Edelstein is Leo Bergen just to get as Kim

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Speaker 1: Erica Schaeffer, as reported Julia, do.

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Speaker 3: You think you could read the synopsis in scandal pace?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes scandle pace.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see, I'm just going to do scandal play. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Paul the President, your campaign swrings back and forth. Who

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Speaker 4: seems to be winning the race until a sudden death

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Speaker 4: almost guarantees Fits wull Win. Titans collide when Fits and

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Speaker 4: Eli joined four to stop my who they both believe

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Speaker 2: See how good that is?

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Speaker 1: I kind of swell up that ship like twice already.

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Speaker 2: Like it was so good a scandal pace.

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Speaker 3: That is, I mean, get this guy a fucking voiceover careers.

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Speaker 3: Everybody listening to the.

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Speaker 2: Uh? The Fits picked with the son in his arms

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Speaker 3: This is the episode that little Jerry Junior murdered. We

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Speaker 4: He says to Leo, try to hold on to your

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Speaker 1: What are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're when Quinn and Hawk are already sleeping together.

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Speaker 4: That's not a reveal, right, but you're wearing what are

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Speaker 3: Did you also, I don't know what to believe.

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Speaker 2: I may have free trained it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you imagine that you created that in your head.

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Speaker 3: So this is the This also okay three eighteen, This

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Speaker 1: I have a fucking cold sore on my fucking lip

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Speaker 2: To closing, like scary shit. Yeah, all that shit.

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Speaker 1: Which sometimes it'll spark right, it sparks up like shutting

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Speaker 2: Came up with it.

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Speaker 3: Erica, no, Tom Verica. They're like, fuck, what do we do?

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Speaker 3: Tom Verica calls up the ladder to Shonda. I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where was the intimacy coordinator?

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Speaker 3: We didn't have them, but it makes it so funny

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Speaker 1: Speaking of sexy sex scenes, I feel like Paul had

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Speaker 2: Didn't you have one with the Abby?

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Speaker 4: We had a makeup we never really we had like

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Speaker 2: We never really got it on. It was like me

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you guys a question about that scene? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the other thing is like we've all done sex scenes.

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Speaker 4: This was also a sex scene where then your castmates

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Speaker 2: But then at least you get I guess then you

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Speaker 3: And that, and then there's they're turned on from the blood,

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Speaker 5: Somebody got staff Jo Maestat, she's terrifying, terrifying Alexander, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love I love the scene where after Olivia tells

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Speaker 3: She's like you know, yea, which is so good because

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Speaker 3: they don't have to explain it. Wait, okay, what about

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Speaker 3: did anybody eat in this episode? We we're obsessed with.

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Speaker 2: Food, right, I was eating on camera. It's my favorite

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Speaker 1: See we we had Scott Foley on the other day

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Speaker 2: He was always eating on camera.

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Speaker 3: I thought that he's pretending.

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Speaker 2: I was. Oh, I would eat my ass off on

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Speaker 3: See that's because you're a Chicago actor. There was only

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Speaker 3: Had dinner scenes all the time as a family around

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Speaker 2: I just eat.

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Speaker 4: I've gotten actually physically into trouble. Really You're like, I

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, there was a private practice one

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Speaker 3: You're eating your feelings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you do it in one because that's the joke.

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Speaker 4: And I did it like seven, you know, seven times.

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Speaker 2: See that's that's hard.

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Speaker 4: And then on the show Gets Shorty, I was on

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Speaker 4: the show Get Shorty, my character like it says that

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Speaker 4: he eats a steak in this scene. I ate like

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Speaker 4: because I was like, I was like, I was kind

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Speaker 4: in my house or just get rid of into this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I would. I would have made the same choice,

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Speaker 1: And it was still there, it was still fresh in

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Speaker 2: It's a fat peeve of mine.

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Speaker 4: When people aren't good at fake eating, when they're just

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Speaker 1: I can't stand we talk about it as GMO hates

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Speaker 1: it too, Like he's like he's a big Gilmore Girls

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Speaker 4: There, or coffee cups the clearly don't have anything in

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, did you eat on Scandal?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I feel like Leo doesn't eat or

446
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: eliminate like it doesn't.

447
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 4: It never felt whenever I wasn't, I will say from

448
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 4: an acting perspective, I think I mentioned this to you

449
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 4: when we talked the other day. Like when I wasn't

450
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 4: in the I never really figured out like there was

451
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 4: a there was a scene where.

452
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm doing pilates, which is funny, But.

453
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 4: Like when I'm Scandal, when I wasn't in the suit,

454
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 4: I always felt the little like, I don't know, like

455
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 4: it didn't make sense from here up because I still

456
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 4: it would be like being in a full thing of

457
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 4: makeup but not in a gown. Yes, it always felt

458
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 4: a little like who is this guy if he's not

459
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 4: in a three thousand dollars fuit?

460
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like marching around the oval like doing his job,

461
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 3: like it was just like at home. It's pet it

462
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: was probably so great weird.

463
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, did you guys eat? It didn't It

464
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: doesn't we.

465
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Speaker 6: Eat all the time? Oh oh, you did all the time.

466
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 6: I would get so excited because we did. Yeah, because

467
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 6: our props are props guys. They would ask us. They

468
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 6: would ask me, I'm sure all of us, Hey, what

469
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 6: do you want to eat? You're eating a sandwich in

470
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 6: the scene.

471
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: What do you want?

472
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, I want turkey and Swiss cheese

473
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: and ost male I was like. And then I was like,

474
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't gonna eat lunch because I was

475
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: going to eat in the scene, but I was still

476
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: so excited. And then I would take home the all

477
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: the leftovers. They'd make a few of the sandwiches and

478
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: I get to take those homes.

479
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: In terms of like fashion moments of the week of

480
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: what we had, I don't have any hot, hot fashion.

481
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 3: I don't remember any of it because this episode was

482
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 3: so action passed.

483
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: Candy Alexander is wearing when the rest outside, Paul.

484
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: That's it.

485
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: You're right, She's in a trench another white coat.

486
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 4: It's also a kind yeah, it's like it is a

487
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 4: kind of like all to Olivia.

488
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: Right, there's a kind of is and it's very flowy.

489
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: It looks very Olivia. Yeah. Oh, that is a great

490
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: fashion moment.

491
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 1: She's coming out brief briefcase and the and she she

492
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: throws on that smile. You see, that's that smirk on

493
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: her face. Oh it's so good.

494
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: Okay, there most six degrees of horror. It has Paul

495
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: adel Signe always Eddie been in horror.

496
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

497
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: Well, the one that everyone keeps mentioning lately is the menu.

498
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: Do you have you seen the menu? I have not seen.

499
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: It's the best acting is.

500
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: That's what I keep curing and and and people keep

501
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: saying that you're an amazing villain in it.

502
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: Not a villain in it. You're not a villain. I

503
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: figure think something else, but maybe it's a different one.

504
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: In the menu.

505
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: You know that it's Dominique Cren did all the food

506
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: for it, who's a huge I didn't know any of

507
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 4: this shit, and I had to learn it, and like

508
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 4: taught Ray Findes how to be a chef, and it's

509
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 4: all about like fine fine, fine, diying, talk about food.

510
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: H finds the villain.

511
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 7: We ate.

512
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: We literally sat, I mean four weeks of that movie

513
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 4: or us sitting at having one dinner eating Are you kidding?

514
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: And you ate it? Of course you were eating?

515
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then they fake fake some of it, you know,

516
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 4: like the scallops after a few hours.

517
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: Were potatoes, right of course.

518
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 4: But Garama, you gotta see this movie because so first

519
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: of all, it takes place like in an open kitchen

520
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: fancy restaurant, so there was a functioning gourmet kitchen, and

521
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: then right off set there was another fully functioning gourmet kitchen,

522
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: so that her Sioux chef who stayed for weeks and

523
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: weeks could prepare this. Oh you're gonna if you're a

524
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: foodie and a horror guy, that.

525
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: You are not gonna believe. I just think the acting

526
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: and that, Like I don't like horror films at all

527
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: because I'm terrified, but this is my kind of horror

528
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: film because there are some moments of like scary running around.

529
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 3: You don't know if someone's gonna jump out, like you know,

530
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: now people are getting murdered, so like murder is a

531
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: part of the conversation, but it's far more of a

532
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: s my vibe, like it's psychological.

533
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: It's not like more of a thriller. But it definitely

534
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 4: has a horror I mean there's some horror stuff you played.

535
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 3: What are your other horror films?

536
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: I see this, I think that's it.

537
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, chance your thriller.

538
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: I mean a chance is a chance is like a noir?

539
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 3: Would you ever do horror?

540
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: Right?

541
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 3: I feel like it's better to be in it. Then

542
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: I can't watch it. I literally will think.

543
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: About it amazing.

544
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: Being in it would be super fun. We will be

545
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: back with more after the break. Gee, did we have

546
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: cringe worthy moments where you and I are like, Wow,

547
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: we're really bad at acting?

548
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: I had a bit I had one for myself.

549
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: Put that section in.

550
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Your I got that. Oh yeah, I haven't.

551
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: It's the moments that Leo Bergen had for you in

552
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: three eighteen. Uh, and I thought you were fucking great.

553
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 4: I biffed a couple of the lines in the scene

554
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: with Jeff in the in the in his office, there's

555
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: a couple of I tried to beat like letter, you know,

556
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: like everything enunciated, never run out of breath.

557
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: I felt like I run out of breath a couple

558
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: of times. I didn't notice. But I'll also say there's

559
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 2: a thing that I decided I was very It's it's

560
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: also funny.

561
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have this, but I

562
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 4: have this, like I don't like looking at myself and

563
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 4: I remember then being like I looked so much better

564
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 4: in private practice. This haircut is stupid, and now I

565
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: look at it, I'm like, I'll be pretty good.

566
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: Like it's always like five years later, you're like, what

567
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: was my problem? Oh totally, we were just talking about that.

568
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we say that all the time. I look

569
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: back on Quinn and I'm like, I hated my body, then,

570
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: what was the issue?

571
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: Like?

572
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: I was so cute? Like ever, I would love to

573
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: have that again.

574
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 4: There's a thing I was particularly self conscious about at

575
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 4: that time, which I'm still self conscios about, and I

576
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: somehow incorporated into Leo's physicality to.

577
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: Get rid of what is it? Do you she want

578
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: to share? It's too scary. Don't you have to share?

579
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

580
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm a strong believer in not saying your flaws out

581
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: loud to people because then they're like, oh, maybe he

582
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: does have like a big naive.

583
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: I saw my little thing where I was like, oh,

584
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: I was conscious of the things.

585
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: I have things too, I have like physical things.

586
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: Will you did you have a cringe moment for you?

587
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: I have one for sure.

588
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: I thought I was so stupid and annoying twice. Isn't

589
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: there a moment where Charlie comes to Quinn and gives

590
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 3: me them. Oh god, it's so stupid showing it to him.

591
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: I am not showing this to my boyfriend. And then

592
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was like stupendous when I gave

593
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: you the thing and I was like, I love you,

594
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: and you're like, never speak to me again. How dare

595
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: you show me that my real family is alive and

596
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: this is where they live? Anyway, I think I was

597
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: like great. I did not think I was great.

598
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: I didn't.

599
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: I didn't like the moment when Huck at the end

600
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: goes to and knocks on the door and she opens the.

601
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: Door and I'm like, it's me or whatever the hell

602
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: he says. I was, yeah, so sappy, it's so touching.

603
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: But didn't you like the scene? Then Hawk goes in

604
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: and says, I found my family, but I think it's

605
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: better that they think I'm dead.

606
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: I like that scene, brutal. I like that.

607
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: You're so great.

608
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: Can we talk about I.

609
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: Love Scandal because you know it's heightened and everybody has

610
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 4: to It is theatrical and there's moments that are very naturalistic,

611
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: but a lot of moments that are heightened. Yeah, can

612
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: we just talk about George Newburn just like sailing through,

613
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: just like like I'm not gonna He doesn't play like

614
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm a bad Like if I was playing

615
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 4: that role, I'd be like, how do I make myself scary?

616
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: And he's just like, hey, guys, just like sweet guy.

617
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, bless this man. I love him so much. I

618
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 3: mean we were g and I were so lucky in

619
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: our like trio of fits to always be around him

620
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: because he's such a good person. But sometimes we'd be

621
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: at table reads and he would get the biggest he

622
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: would get laughs for days, right, Yeah, And sometimes he

623
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: turned to me and he'd be like, I don't know

624
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: why they're laughing, and I'd be like, like, George, don't

625
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: think about it, don't try to do it differently. Doing

626
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: what we do, keep doing. And I honestly think that's

627
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 3: how he was the whole time. I think, And we

628
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: haven't had him on yet because we're saving him for like,

629
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't know when the perfect George episode is, but look, honey,

630
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: we've got seven episodes of the seven years of this

631
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: and lots of episodes would blow it too soon. But

632
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: he I think the whole time, and I can't wait

633
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: to ask him. I think he just sort of the

634
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: whole time was like I don't know what I'm doing.

635
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: Is there cake and crafty?

636
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he's just the fucking best.

637
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: And at the scene in the end when when we

638
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: see Maya in the hole and George is there in

639
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: the room and it's it's shot very very you know,

640
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: sort of dark and ominous, and the only brightness is

641
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: the red of his lollipop and it's so great.

642
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: That must have been written in or I mean, I

643
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: think that's a big choice.

644
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: If not, Oh, I thought that was written in. Every

645
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: time they had him eating it was written in like

646
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: a doughnut, a lollipop, like I remember.

647
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's so relaxed, and it works for the show,

648
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: It works in that world because there's something so creepy

649
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: about it.

650
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

651
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: There's something else that's stuck out for me in this episode,

652
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: which I'd never seen the show do before. It's the

653
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: scene where Fit after Fits has that scene with Rowan

654
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: and he finds out that his son was murdered, and

655
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: then he's in a room with Olivia and he's telling

656
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: her it's not your fault, You're not your mother, and

657
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: the scene is all distorted it and you hear the

658
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: sound is all choppy and distorted and sort of going

659
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: back and forth.

660
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: And I thought that was so interesting.

661
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: I'd never seen them do anything like that before, and

662
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: I think they were mimicking what was going on in

663
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Live's head, you know, in her brain. She was like,

664
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm responsible for the death of his son.

665
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was so great.

666
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the problem. I'm the scandal of that whole thing.

667
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Speaker 2: Him to fly in the ointment. Yes, yes, really interesting.

668
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, though, she gets on that plane with Scott Foley.

669
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Speaker 3: That's how we end the season three. She gets on

670
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Speaker 3: the plane.

671
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: Wait, is that the end of the season that episode,

672
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: this episode, yeah, eighteen, Yeah.

673
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Speaker 3: Because I think she got on the plane to the

674
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: airport to have a baby, Like probably, Yeah, I think

675
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: that's what was happening, because when we come back from

676
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: this season, she's on the island, and I think she

677
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: had a baby by that point.

678
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: But I think they get it real good.

679
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

680
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: Well it's also Carrie. I mean, my god, like, this

681
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: woman can be beautiful no matter what my pregnancy. Season

682
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: seven of Scandal, when we get there is not like that.

683
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Is Quinn pregnant or is pregnant. Well that's different. That's different.

684
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: No, but you could it is different.

685
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Speaker 2: You could lean into it.

686
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: Oh I leaned, honey, I mean real hard.

687
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Speaker 2: It's friends.

688
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Speaker 4: But what were the shows like in the eighties the

689
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: nineties where they were just like it was just a

690
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: woman standing behind a counter for.

691
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: A whole season.

692
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: Julie Bowen in the pilot episode of Modern Family, she's

693
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Speaker 3: behind a laundry bask she's holding a laundry basket or

694
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Speaker 3: behind a couch.

695
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: That might have been twins too.

696
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was real. Yeah, I think it was.

697
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: And she was and I gone back and watched it,

698
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: and she was hiding to the joke on Scandal is

699
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: Kerry Washington's like Prada bags were just getting bigger and

700
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: bigger and bigger and bigger. She was just good, like

701
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: in front of her. Do you have any memories, Paul

702
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: of like behind the scenes of like, I don't think

703
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: me you and g never really had anything.

704
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Speaker 4: Did I remember the table read? The table reads were

705
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: such an event. Yes, that's when I saw.

706
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: Everybody not like that. On Private Practice.

707
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. It was like it was a

708
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Speaker 2: version of that.

709
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: Explain what they were to you? I think the gladiators know,

710
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: but it it was like.

711
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 7: A pep perfect, which is great because it was so

712
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 7: it was you know, sometimes table reads, for first of all,

713
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 7: they can be like the cast in particular is like

714
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 7: they're in the middle of their day.

715
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: They're like, we go go back to you know, it

716
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: can be it can be Yeoman's work and people try

717
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: to fly through it. There was something and it can

718
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: feel I think as a guest, it can feel like,

719
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: don't get in anybody's way, like this is their thing.

720
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: You're not on set and you're not really nobody's really

721
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: introducing you. It can feel very Hodgepodge scandal. It had

722
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: a very specific rhythm to it. There was food, Some

723
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Speaker 4: people get there a little early, there'd be milling. The

724
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: writer sat at one place, then people would take their

725
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: place around the table, and then everybody was introduced every

726
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: single time. Every single person was introduced every time, right.

727
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Betsy Beards would read like this playing this, but

728
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Speaker 3: that doesn't happen.

729
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, And then there's applause.

730
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: And it was incredibly incredibly welcoming and positive, which was great,

731
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Speaker 4: and it was like, oh, these people are really having

732
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Speaker 4: a good time, which gives you permission to have a

733
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Speaker 4: good time.

734
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Speaker 2: And then there.

735
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: Was also the thing that nobody has seen the freaking

736
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: script before. Yeah, so the first line the writers get

737
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: to watch the actors lose their fucking minds, which I

738
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: don't remember if it was this one, but I was

739
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: one where I was at where it was like the

740
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: act five out was something enormous, and then the sixth

741
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: like the whatever that's called like tag, yeah, was something

742
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: like triply enormous. I remember people like jumped out of

743
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: their chairs and started running.

744
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: Around the room. That happened. I think it was when Kate.

745
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: Kills her husband maybe maybe sure, because it was like

746
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: it like very much like this episode. It's like the

747
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: double reverse, like, oh my god, the blowing up of

748
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: the church is going to get her elected.

749
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: No, the killing of the Sun is.

750
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: Going and you think Maya killed the son. Nope, it

751
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: was popa plus like a sun for a kid for

752
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 3: a kid. I think the table reads were the most

753
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: fun thing ever. I think think it was also because

754
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: then you fit in this world. But I think the

755
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: majority of the actors on Scandal, and this is such

756
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: a testament to Linda Lowie were theater kids, and so

757
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: like to have you know, everyone's on a TV show,

758
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: which is sort of like acting in a vacuum, and

759
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: then you get to have this table read once every

760
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: ten days. That felt like live fucking theater, like it

761
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: totally did. It was like make choices. This isn't like

762
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: you act small and nobody can hear you and we're

763
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: just trying to see if the script works. This was

764
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: like for it. I felt like I was paying two

765
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars for a Broadway ticket to watch

766
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 3: what jes Perry was going to do. Across the other side.

767
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: You're a cold read a cold, and every Jeff Perry

768
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: was probably not even trying.

769
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Speaker 2: He was the one who was probably like I'm just

770
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: gonna read it. But he was so freaking brilliant like Shakespeare.

771
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he was changing eight thousand glasses between years,

772
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: sighted and far sided, so like you never knew what

773
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 3: was going to happen because believable. But his performance, like

774
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: everybody's performance, I would feel like, holy shit, I better

775
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: fucking bring in get this table like people are fucking

776
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: killing this. Yeah yeah, it was so fun. Okay, I

777
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: want to go do some We talked about some were

778
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: you on Twitter? At the time. Yes, we do some

779
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: tweets at the time. They're like our time capsule to

780
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: see what all the fans thought about Leo Bergen or

781
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: the episode. We're gonna read some of those, and then

782
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: we need to tell all the gladiators that they can

783
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 3: listen to you.

784
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: On your podcases.

785
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about all the fancy things

786
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: you're doing, so wait, let's read some of these tweets

787
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 3: for our gladiators.

788
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: My whistles are so dry.

789
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: Luke Edgman on April eighteen, twenty fourteen road. How can

790
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: it all just end like that? I feel hollow inside

791
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: the scandal? Please come back? Okay, glory, Okay girl.

792
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: This is my One of my favorite tweets from this

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Speaker 1: episode is at c a Karen underscore. She says, you

794
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Speaker 1: know what scene I look forward to in season four

795
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Speaker 1: fits finding out that Tom killed his son hashtag scandal.

796
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: That would have been a good fucking scene.

797
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: I know, I don't think.

798
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: I don't think they ever find out.

799
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't know. No, I don't know

800
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: that it was Tom.

801
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you had like.

802
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: A thing on his finger and he's commands right hand,

803
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: right dish at gwan tweeted, watching last night's scandal, would

804
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Speaker 3: a paternity test be accurate in that circumstance?

805
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: Good question? Oh right, good question.

806
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: I have no idea, all right.

807
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Dyla at m Royals c two tweeted that Eli Pope

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Speaker 1: is something else.

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Speaker 3: And eats myn yah yah well, Katie marry a well,

810
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Speaker 3: Eli Poe proved runs and for all that he's always

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Speaker 3: been several steps ahead and runs everything B six thirteen

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Speaker 3: or not hashtag scandal, which is very true.

813
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Speaker 1: Oh look, and at kookaburrow dot three four two tweeted

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00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: yo that Ghieremo Dias and Katie Lows they're so sexy

815
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: shooting that sex scene on the table. I want to

816
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: see more of them naked, especially Gieremo d Us. Wow,

817
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: thank you cuckoo Burah one two three real tweet.

818
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Speaker 2: That is not a real tweet.

819
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going like, where the fuck is that tweet?

820
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm like it should have been a tweet.

821
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: Also, Scamel, I can't believe it's taken us eight hundred

822
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: episodes of doing this for you to pull that joke.

823
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: I can't believe we haven't done it every time.

824
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: More that, I love that Okay, So Paul, tell all

825
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: of the gladiators about your podcast.

826
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: So I, me and Sarah Waen Callus, who is the

827
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: female lead on prison Break, have started a prison Break

828
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Speaker 4: rewatch podcast where we do a live rewatch, which is

829
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: to live well the audio is our responses to it are.

830
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: And then like watching it in real time as.

831
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: You we do it together in real time and then

832
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: we cut together like highlights of us being.

833
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: Like, oh, ship, that's that's good. We put that in

834
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: the middle of the episode.

835
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: But we have guests on and we talk about each

836
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 4: episode in where we've had directors, writers, actors, and we're

837
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: going through. We're in the middle of season one right now.

838
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: Just just started it on It's everywhere. It's on all

839
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 4: wherever you get a podcasts is called prison Breaking with

840
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: Sarah and I.

841
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: Love it title, and it's.

842
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 4: At prison at prison Break podcast Instagram.

843
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: That's it's been really really fun. Yeah, show is it hold?

844
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: Like are you watching it back? Like g and I

845
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: watched and Scandal and we're like, ship, this was good, Like.

846
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does.

847
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 4: And it's actually so much it's so far away that

848
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: actually it's like I don't even recognize the same I'm

849
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: not remembering ship. I'm like you, like, when was it

850
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: two thousand and five four five six?

851
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fucking awesome. What else are you working on?

852
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: You know, trying to, trying to. I got a couple

853
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: of things I'm waiting to hear on.

854
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: And well, you always have a lot of irons in

855
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: the fire for those every time. It not only an actor,

856
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: he's a director, an actor, a writer, a producer. And

857
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: you are very very a multi high infinated artists unlike me.

858
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: And oh and he's a very talented musician with records

859
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: out the world that are like real in my household.

860
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Play a little something for us right now.

861
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: I wish we music. He's a musical genius. He plays

862
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: like eight thousand instruments.

863
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: Paul spots Spotify. Just put a song out a couple

864
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: weeks ago.

865
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: You will love it.

866
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: Like I'm like Adam, I'm like your husband.

867
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: Single instrument. Can't reading his assa anyone can do that.

868
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: That's not true.

869
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: Oh, Paul's so talented, that's unbelievable. Okay, so we're gonna

870
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: listen to your podcast, okay, and next up, listeners, Oh

871
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: my god, this is the end all be all of

872
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: season three of Scandal because next up is episode four

873
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: oh one titled Randy Red Super Freak and.

874
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: Julia remember that one? I remember that too.

875
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: And thank you all so much for season going through

876
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: season three, which I have to say, going back watching

877
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: seasons one, two, and three, I think three is my

878
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: favorite so far.

879
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really good one.

880
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: It's just like off the track crazy, Like it's amazing

881
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: how much plot they are singing into forty two minutes,

882
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: and I just as an actor, like, I'm such a

883
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: fan of everyone's acting. I just can't believe it, Like

884
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: it's just such great work.

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Speaker 1: But and the fact that we had Paul on this

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Speaker 1: final episode, Yeah, I'm so honest.

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Speaker 4: Season I was watching, I was rewatching the episode to

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Speaker 4: get prepared for this, and I was just like, I

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Speaker 4: just let it roll right into season before.

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Speaker 2: It is so hard. I was like, I gotta, I

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Speaker 2: gotta go.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get ready for Leo Bergen sleeping with Abby

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Speaker 3: Yet then when did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Later? Cute like five.

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait to listen to that. I can't wait

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Speaker 3: to watch it. We still have so much juicy shit

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Speaker 3: to get to, soho, thanks for unpacking the toolbox with us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thanky listeners. Thank you guys. Thank you guys, have

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Speaker 2: such a pleasure to be thank you. This was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Adios.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox.

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Speaker 3: Unpacking the Toolbox was executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea,

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Speaker 3: Lauren Homan, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and

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Speaker 3: editor is Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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