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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williams and we are live here at the NFL

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Speaker 2: meetings in Orlando at the Ritz Carlton. It's still hopping.

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Speaker 2: Another beautiful day, is still hopping. Lots of stuff happening

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Speaker 2: here over the last twenty four hours. Yesterday Steelers GM

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Speaker 2: Omar Khan met with the media. We talked to him

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Speaker 2: a little bit. This morning, the league passed the new

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Speaker 2: kickoff role. Yeah, how about that twenty nine to three vote.

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Speaker 2: And so the way this is gonna work, Matt and

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Speaker 2: I just want to let our Steelers also sign three people.

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Speaker 3: But since we Steelers did that, well, they signed and

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Speaker 3: they agreed that he termed yeah, yeah, semanics.

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Speaker 2: Now I get semantics, right. Uh So kickoff role this is,

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Speaker 2: and this is how it's gonna work. The move will dramatically.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not gonna look like anything like it

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Speaker 2: did before.

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Speaker 3: No, it's gonna look like a different sport.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So the past kickoff role features new alignments

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Speaker 2: for both the kicking and receiving units. There's a landing

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Speaker 2: zone area between the receiving team's goal line and its

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Speaker 2: twenty yard line.

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Speaker 3: It's like the red zone is the landing zone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would prompt the action of the kickoff if

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Speaker 2: the ball were to.

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Speaker 3: Land it in that twenty yard area it needs. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter if it rolls out. I mean, all that

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Speaker 3: stuff changes. Yes, it has to land in there, right, So.

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Speaker 2: The kickoffs are going to remain at the thirty five

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Speaker 2: yard line. The team, the kickoff kicking team will still bemm,

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Speaker 2: He'll still be at the thirty five okay, but the

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Speaker 2: ten players in the kicking unit will line up on

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Speaker 2: the opposing team's forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So there's a big gap between those two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well twenty five yard gap as it were. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: twenty five yards. Yeah. The receiving team will line up

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Speaker 2: with at least seven players in the setup zone, the

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Speaker 2: setup on being a five yard area between the thirty

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Speaker 2: thirty five and thirty yard line on their side of

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Speaker 2: the field. So the beaf the ten yards between those

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Speaker 2: seven players. At least seven players in the receiving ten

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Speaker 2: kickoff guys verse seven at least at least you can

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Speaker 2: have more than that. Yeah, five yards apart, and there's

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Speaker 2: a maximum of two returners that can line up in

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Speaker 2: the landing zone, so inside the twenty.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, Okay, I didn't understand that part. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: After the ball is kicked, the kicker couldnot cross the

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Speaker 2: fifty yard line ever period, and the ten kicking team

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Speaker 2: players cannot move until the ball hits the ground or

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Speaker 2: a player in the landing zone or goes into the

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Speaker 2: end zone.

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Speaker 3: Yes. See that's a little state. Because this thing's true,

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Speaker 3: I'll let you read it. Yeah, same things true for

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Speaker 3: the return team.

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Speaker 2: The receiving teams players in the setup zone also could

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Speaker 2: not move until the kick has hit the ground or

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Speaker 2: a player in the landing zone or the end zone.

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Speaker 2: The returners may move at any time before during the kickoff, so.

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Speaker 3: The returners can move around as once they want.

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Speaker 2: I would think that you would come up with some

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Speaker 2: kind of key word words like I know, so I.

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Speaker 3: Don't want my return team front seven looking backward, right,

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Speaker 3: So what.

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Speaker 2: You would what you would have is probably be have

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Speaker 2: your your guy who's farthest back mm hmm, but closest

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Speaker 2: to the other seventh. Your other players are.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a guy in between, like a midfielder.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you have a guy and then maybe and

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Speaker 3: that guy in the in the the guy who's in

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Speaker 3: the back watches the kickoff and as it's caught, he

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Speaker 3: yells fire or something like that, and everybody fires out.

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Speaker 3: That was my so when I when I coached baseball

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Speaker 3: like first teaching that the kids didn't know to run

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Speaker 3: on the drop for and third strike. As the third

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Speaker 3: base coach, I would just yell fire and they know

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Speaker 3: you just take off running that way they're not looking

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Speaker 3: or they swing and that you know they're not looking

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Speaker 2: You know, just to take off.

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Speaker 3: And they do stuff like that on punts as well.

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Speaker 3: You get away from the ball. That kind of stuff too,

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Speaker 3: Like there's all these code words for that.

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Speaker 2: Here's there's a there's a little graphic here that Tom

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Speaker 2: Pelasarro tweeted out. It kind of shows you.

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Speaker 3: But it looks like Danny or whomever, any special teams

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Speaker 2: Of how many guys With four of his dudes, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, you could put one in the in the zone.

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Speaker 3: You put two in the zone. Probably want to put

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Speaker 3: two in the zone. I would, because yeah, unless you

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Speaker 3: have one good return guy, then they'll kick the other dude.

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Speaker 3: And then there's other three you could put in the midfield.

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Speaker 3: You can put them up high, you can put them

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Speaker 3: down low. Okay, so that's interesting. Yeah, see, a couple

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Speaker 3: of things I think are not a problem, but just

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Speaker 2: There's some other things with this, Oh I know, I know,

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Speaker 3: What we were talking about, like as the return team

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Speaker 3: front line. It sounds great to yell fire, but I

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Speaker 3: mean Baltimore and right, you don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think you have a chain with that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or a signal or something.

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Speaker 3: My opponent's are five yards away from me.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe maybe you do it so you have one

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Speaker 2: of your guys on the sideline. Everybody just watches the

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Speaker 2: sideline and somebody.

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Speaker 3: And okay, yeah, I've gotta work that out because you

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Speaker 3: don't want to be laid off the ball with a

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Speaker 2: Right, right, So penalties on scoring plays also will not

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Speaker 2: carry over and will be taken on the point after attempt.

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Speaker 2: So before you could, okay, say if somebody jumped off side.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, extra point. Well, we're gonna choose to take

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Speaker 2: it on the kickoff. You you can't do that anymore.

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Speaker 2: You have to take it on the point after, which

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Speaker 2: could lead to more two point tries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, Okay, that's that's a ripple effect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on any penalty that carries over to a kickoff

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Speaker 2: the set up and landings, which I guess would be

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Speaker 2: like a personal foul or something like that on the

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Speaker 2: point after attempt, the setup and landing zones will not change,

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Speaker 2: nor will the alignment of the ten kickoff team players

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Speaker 2: and all the receiving team players. Only the kickers positioning

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Speaker 2: move so he just if you move up to the

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Speaker 2: fifty because of a personal foul, there's they're still.

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Speaker 3: They and the kicker. The kicker can't still can't go

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Speaker 2: In kickoff scenarios, kickoffs that hit in the landing zone

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Speaker 2: must be returned. There's no more fair catch. Yeah okay.

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Speaker 2: Kickoffs that hit the landing zone and then go into

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Speaker 2: the end zone must be returned or down by the

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Speaker 2: receiving team. If down, the receiving team gets the ball

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Speaker 2: in its own twenty.

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Speaker 3: But that's risky. If I'm a returner. I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: think that because they're only they're much closer now. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so you be pretty sure it's gonna go into the

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Speaker 2: Kickoffs that go into the end zone and stay in

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Speaker 2: bounds that are down would give the receiving team the

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Speaker 2: ball to their own thirty. So if it rolls in

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Speaker 2: and stays in bounds, you get it thirty. If you

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Speaker 2: kick it through the end zone, you get it at

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Speaker 2: the twenty.

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Speaker 3: You kick it through.

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Speaker 2: If it lands short, oh okay, okay, and rolls through

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Speaker 2: the end zone, you get it at twenty. If if

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Speaker 2: it lands short, it lands in the zone in the zone,

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Speaker 2: but then stays in play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you get it at the thirty.

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Speaker 2: Kickoffs that go out of the back of the end

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Speaker 2: zone in the air would also go to the thirty

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Speaker 3: I know they penalize if you just get the driver

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Speaker 2: Kickoffs short of the landing zone would be treated like

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Speaker 2: a kickoff of bounds, and the receiving team will get

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Speaker 2: the ball at its own forty. So you have to

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Speaker 2: get the ball in that twenty yard area. If you

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Speaker 2: kick it to the twenty one, they're getting the ball

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Speaker 2: to forty.

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Speaker 3: I think there's no squibs, you know, that's what it

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Speaker 3: would take out of the game, will be the squib. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's no squib. There's no squib kicks.

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Speaker 2: The legislation also would would tweak on side kicks, which

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Speaker 2: can only occur in the fourth quarter and onward, and

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Speaker 2: can only be done by a team that's trailing.

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Speaker 3: You're losing the fourth quarter. I guess you don't have

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Speaker 3: to say we're going on side.

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Speaker 2: But no, you do. The kicking team must declare its

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Speaker 2: intent of an on side kick because that changes where

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Speaker 3: So that that's like no one's ever going to recover

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Speaker 3: it on side kick, but they don't now anyways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like three all of last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's really a low percentage play

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Speaker 3: and it sounds like that's not going.

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Speaker 2: To change now. This rule is only in place for

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season. They'll review it again in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I would expect they'll probably tweak it

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Speaker 2: to very least tweak it a little bit and then.

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Speaker 3: Prove it deal. Yeah, so I think it's still true,

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Speaker 3: and I think you said this if the kicking team

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Speaker 3: kicks it out of bounds. It's the same as it

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Speaker 3: is now it goes to forty. Yeah, okay, I'm fine

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Speaker 3: with it. I mean, it seems convoluted, but I think

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Speaker 3: we'll get it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's gonna be weird the first few

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Speaker 2: times that they do.

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Speaker 3: It to look weird initially, and then I just wonder,

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Speaker 3: will some smart coach come up with some.

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Speaker 2: Loose so there'll be something that somebody comes up with.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the reality of it. But I

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Speaker 2: think all this the league special teams coaches got together

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Speaker 2: on a conference call and talk this through. To a

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Speaker 2: certain degree, this has changed from what it initially was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it.

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Speaker 2: Just is that's exactly what the XFL does, or don't

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Speaker 2: you know. I think it's a little bit very diffimilar.

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Speaker 2: It's similar, but I think there's some tweaks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So a couple of things I wanted to bring

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Speaker 3: up about it is I don't think it's an issue,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not an NFL place kicker. I know they

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Speaker 3: all have a driver and they can kick it out

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Speaker 3: of the end zone more or less. I assume all

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Speaker 3: of them can pull out the seven iron and drop

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Speaker 3: it into a twenty hour I mean, and that's probably

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Speaker 3: not difficult for them, right, I mean, I would imagine

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Speaker 3: that control well enough. I mean it's a twenty When

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Speaker 3: you get into winney situations, that's where yeah, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to place it in corners, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: Because if it goes out of bounce, you're one of

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Speaker 2: the forty.

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Speaker 3: Especially if I'm a returner, like this might take a

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Speaker 3: bounce and go out of bounds and I get it

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Speaker 3: to forty. So that's interesting. I'd be interested if I'm

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Speaker 2: May not get there in time. Be really great because

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Speaker 2: Like those those drills that that Danny does where he

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Speaker 3: I don't have to coach him. Well, now you gotta

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Speaker 2: If you're if you're a smart guy, you should be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder where the loopholes are, Like what coach

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Speaker 3: And Belichick's not around anymore if he's not around it,

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Speaker 3: Think, I think there'd be more returns, for sure, There'll

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Speaker 2: Position out of it, I would think, I would think,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm sitting here thinking, if the ball is

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Speaker 3: right right now, but they can't leave as early. Yeah, so, okay,

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Speaker 3: is there there seems like there's no advantage to hitting

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, that would help, but it's still you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the kicker is never allowed to leave the fifty though.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good rule to keep kickers healthy.

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Speaker 3: I like that part. Yeah, but they can't participate.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if this changes the guys the players

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Speaker 2: Do you want? What more speed? You want? Maybe put

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking on the return team.

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Speaker 2: Because there's no you know, it's a ten yard period.

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Speaker 2: a situation where I could put an offensive lineman out there,

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Speaker 3: Here comes a ten man wall of tacklers. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I only have five yards for them to juke me.

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Speaker 3: I definitely want the Darknet, Washington.

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Speaker 3: Right, put them out there, they might drive him into

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Speaker 2: He told to mine, Okay, you know, you get a

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Speaker 3: Tight ends like crazy. Yeah. Maybe fullback things like that too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that changes some of the body types that

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, one thing that's an obvious effect is

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is going to actually aize that.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder if you go for a running back

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Speaker 3: I'm sure people know this, but as a rule of thumb,

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Speaker 2: See this to me is more like a punt return.

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Speaker 2: It seems that way too. They're closer because you're you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe you don't want a tackle breaker, two

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Speaker 3: Interesting, So I do think like if I'm a fifty

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty happy about this rule. Yeah, that might get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Calvin Austin. Calvin Austin really hasn't been a

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Speaker 3: But that was actually my next question. Now he who

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Speaker 2: But secondly, then you wouldn't be able to have somebody

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Speaker 3: I think you've less time to get your acceleration.

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Speaker 2: To because you know, back in the day, you know

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Speaker 2: Now you know they're gonna be They're gonna be on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they will. Okay, So baby, you want Antonio Brown

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Speaker 2: We'll do that when we return. You're listening to the

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt

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Speaker 2: we talked, had a chance to sit down the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go through it.

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Speaker 2: The signing or the agreements of Quees Watkins, the wide

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Speaker 3: He was he had a pretty extensive season with them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know where he was on you know, pretty much

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Speaker 2: So a quarterback, a defensive lineman, and a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: So needless to say, these aren't shattering moves, are these are?

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Speaker 3: And these guys fit that mold. I don't know this

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Speaker 3: for certain, but I would think and I haven't seen

441
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,640
Speaker 3: their contracts. They're not even guaranteed to make the team.

442
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,640
Speaker 3: I mean, if somebody blows your doors off or they're

443
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,679
Speaker 3: not what you think they are, you get out of it,

444
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 3: you move on. There's probably not much of a dead

445
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 3: money or that type of thing set up with these guys.

446
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,359
Speaker 3: I'm just guessing. But Watkins to me is, let's go

447
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 3: one by one.

448
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,119
Speaker 2: Watkins is a speed guy, speed guy who's it's like

449
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,159
Speaker 2: sixty four percent of his career snaps are coming the slot.

450
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's also played some outside he has. Yeah, so

451
00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,959
Speaker 3: that's what I'm gonna say. Is I profile him more

452
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,920
Speaker 3: as an outside guy?

453
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the speed.

454
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little over six feet. I mean, he's

455
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,320
Speaker 3: a not a huge dude, but he's built for speed.

456
00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,399
Speaker 2: A four to three five guy exactly so.

457
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,200
Speaker 3: But I think because they had DeVante Smith and aj Brown,

458
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 3: maybe he kind of got relegated to the slot. The

459
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,959
Speaker 3: fact that he's done two thirds of his snaps there

460
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,159
Speaker 3: is great. He's caught just under one hundred balls over

461
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,679
Speaker 3: his career, but he's dangerous.

462
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 2: And about half of his career receiving yards have come.

463
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Speaker 3: After the catch. Okay, I didn't know that.

464
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a guy that I catched the ball and

465
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 2: I run by somebody. If you remember a couple of

466
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,160
Speaker 2: years ago in the preseason, he got Trey Norwood. Yeah yeah, yeah,

467
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,680
Speaker 2: he read Trey took a bad angle on him and

468
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 2: zoom walkins off the off to the races.

469
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's the first I heard that. But it

470
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 3: adds up because there's different ways to generate after the catch.

471
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Speaker 3: You know, a J. Brown catches a slant, shrugs a

472
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Speaker 3: guy off, and then takes it where I think he

473
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,399
Speaker 3: runs by somebody. You hit him in stride in the

474
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 3: last forty yard he dances in the end zone, and

475
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 3: that's after the catch. I mean, he's a true speedster.

476
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 3: But the fact that he's not just outside the numbers

477
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 3: is appealing to me. Obviously, Andy Whitel's familiar with him

478
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,640
Speaker 3: with his Eagles ties, and they must have liked him.

479
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if he has any special teams uh acumen. Maybe.

480
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 3: I know he returned to college. I don't know what

481
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 3: he did in the Eagles. I didn't think he's a

482
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Speaker 3: Rundown town. He could be a guy that could be

483
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 3: here to our previous conversation, so I don't know about you,

484
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 3: but the way I view the receiver room right now

485
00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 3: is Pickens is a starter. Yes, there's still a I

486
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 3: mean there's still at least one hole. But I look

487
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 3: at Jefferson, Austin and Watkins now as if one of

488
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 3: them turns into a quality three, I think that's pie

489
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 3: in the sky. But I think all of them are

490
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 3: above average fours, you know what I mean. So maybe

491
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 3: they fight for spots, maybe they're pure.

492
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Ian Watkins was a three on a team that went

493
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, you know that's what

494
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: That was his role in Philadelphia. He started quite a

495
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: few games, started twenty five games in his career out

496
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 2: of the forty. He hasn't missed any games in his career.

497
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: Like he didn't start right away. He was a six

498
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: round draft pick of the Eagles. He broke into the

499
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: lineup late that season and basically it hasn't missed a

500
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Speaker 2: game since.

501
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Speaker 3: And he's not really a finesse guy. I mean, you

502
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: think a lot of the speedsters are track guys and

503
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: you know, with pads on. But he'll block a little bit.

504
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: He does some contest to catch stuff. I mean, he'll

505
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 3: fight for the football. I think I would give him

506
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: the leg up of the three to be highest on

507
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: the depth chart if they were to break today. They're different.

508
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 3: Calvin is small and we know what he is. Jefferson's

509
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: not as fast as these guys, but he's probably the

510
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 3: best route runner. Yeah. So there are varied skill sets,

511
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 3: and I think right now you have a one slash

512
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 3: two and three fours, yeah, you know, or three, three

513
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 3: and a half. I think Pickens is I think Pickens

514
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: is a one. Yeah, I think he is emerging. Yeah,

515
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: I think he's emerging as one.

516
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: Even if you you know, if you look at AJ

517
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: Brown's seasons with Arthur Smith, he wasn't a he didn't

518
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: have ninety plus catches in those seasons.

519
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: Corey Davis was.

520
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: Very Corey Davis was very much of all to Yeah, right,

521
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: it was, you know, sixty five seventy catches for twelve

522
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred yards because of the run after the catch ability.

523
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 3: I think Pickens has some of that ability. Oh, they

524
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: showed it a lot of it last year. Yeah, you know,

525
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 3: clearly he's the Steelers one as it stands. You know,

526
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: if you could get someone equal to him or in

527
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 3: that neighborhood, now you're cooking.

528
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: You're also i think looking at maybe a potential for

529
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: Pat Fryarmouth to potentially be the number two.

530
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I think his production to spike without question.

531
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: They just say that he's our he's our number two receiver,

532
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: and these other guys are all the they're they're all

533
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: complimentary to what those picks and in the wheel.

534
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. So no, it's it's a perfect example of lessening

535
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: your need going into the draft. It's you know what

536
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: you're getting, it's a bird in the hand. Hopefully you

537
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: could draft or acquire somebody that's a clear one slash

538
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: two type guy.

539
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 2: The fact that the fact that you've got a guy

540
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: who can play out, so you got you got guys

541
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: that can play outside, You got guys that can play inside.

542
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: Now you can do whatever you think, you know, whatever

543
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: you think you need to do in the draft. If

544
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: there's a good slot there, you take him. If there's

545
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: a good outside there, you take him. Period.

546
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 3: Kind of like we've talked about in the past. You know,

547
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: everyone looks at this team and I'm not just lumping

548
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: all fans together like they better draft a corner, Well,

549
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 3: they better draft to someone play a slot.

550
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need they need a slot, right right right.

551
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: I think that's a you know, a definite need. And

552
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: Mike Tom has much said so when he spoke the

553
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: other day. Uh, but the receiver, they could take receiver,

554
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: they could take whatever they want. If there's another Pickings

555
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: type guy there, they could take him.

556
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: Or Elak Washington from Virginia. You could move him to

557
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 3: the slot and people around. So he do have more

558
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: puzzle pieces to fit in a lot of spots. Yeah,

559
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 3: and you're talking about the other two dudes. Yeah.

560
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: Lowry to me is interesting. He started a ton of

561
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: games in his career.

562
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: He's played a lot of football.

563
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: Played a lot of football. In fact, if you look

564
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: at it, Uh, he's six six basically about three hundred pounds.

565
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: He's in his ninth season. Kind as the keys of

566
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: Aaron Smith. Look, Tom, you know.

567
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 2: He's a classic three four end body type. Yeah, and

568
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: you look at it, you're gonna four eight seven.

569
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: He's a really good athlete.

570
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, doesn't he's not been a big sack guy. No,

571
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: but I don't know that that. I don't know what

572
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: he was asked to do in Green Bay. Were they

573
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: asked I were they asked to take on double teams

574
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: or were they asked to get to the I.

575
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: Think they're mostly a three fourish, you know. Kenny Clark

576
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: is the nose when he was there. I mean he

577
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 3: did what one year in Minnesota last year with death Flores,

578
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: which was kind of you know, he got hurt at

579
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: the end too.

580
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was playing more defensive tackle in Minnesota.

581
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, whereas in Green Bay he was playing more outside,

582
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: you know, on the over the tackle. So my take

583
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: on him is, I think he's a similar move to

584
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: Amani Wats a year ago, you know what I mean,

585
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: except Wats could play some nose for you that was. Yeah,

586
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: they're they're a little bit different and Lowry's a little taller, longer,

587
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: more Aaron smithish, you know. But again, if you would

588
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: draft one super high, I don't know that he's guaranteed

589
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: a spot on the roster, but I think he's got

590
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: pole position to be on the roster.

591
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's just he's more of an established

592
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: veteran that you know what you're getting. You know what

593
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: you're getting. He's you know, if you had to line

594
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: up with him, you know in Week seventeen in Baltimore, yeah,

595
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: it's not going to overwhelm him. He's played a lot

596
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: of football.

597
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 3: And you couple him with Neil Louder Milk Adams as

598
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 3: your death guys, you know, and.

599
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: Neil's not a death guy.

600
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: Neil is a lew Yeah, I say, ell not in

601
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 3: you know, then you know you don't have to. My

602
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 3: take was I don't think you have to draft one.

603
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: If there's one available, same thing wide receiver, you can

604
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: do it. It's a speed bump, but it's not a roadblock. Right.

605
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: So in terms of point Ruke is here in the

606
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: third round, I can't believe it. I'm gonna run the

607
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: post take take him. But if you don't get any okay,

608
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: you can live with it. So I like that signing.

609
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: It makes all sense in the world. Yeah, it's a

610
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: good depth piece.

611
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: Uh, Kyle Allen, we've talked a lot about the Allen's

612
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: who are not Josh Josh Allen.

613
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: The notts are great Allen's.

614
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not bringing him in as your backup.

615
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: Now he's your three, he's fighting for your three. You're

616
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: gonna still draft a quarterback, JAF's.

617
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: What's gonna ask you, guys, like I think it's safe

618
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: or bring in an undrafted there's gonna be a young

619
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: guy and there'll be another arm. You can't question about that.

620
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: But I don't think you have to draft one.

621
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: You don't have to.

622
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: You don't have to. But I think the beauty of

623
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: him is I don't think he needs a ton of

624
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 3: reps to be Kyle Allen on opening Day.

625
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be holding the clipboard. He's gonna be,

626
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: you know, that, your emergency quarterback on game days if

627
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: he if he beats out whatever whoever is the whoever

628
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: that guy is. And he's started games in the NFL

629
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: and had some success.

630
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's not a starter. He never will be. Yeah,

631
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: No one thinks he's gonna revitalized career here and you know,

632
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: light the world on fire. He did have one year

633
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: with the Panthers where he started a lot. Again pretty much,

634
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: I think he had like seventeen touchdowns verse sixteen picks.

635
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: If you remember that season he got he started off

636
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: on fire, Yeah, super hot. The majority of those touchdown

637
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: passes came in like his first six or seven games,

638
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: and then the interceptions started piling up. I mean, I

639
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: wonder if they probably figured him out.

640
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: They probably went through the league and realized he couldn't

641
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: hit the cover ball or whatever it is. I mean,

642
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: he's not physically overwhelming or any of those type of things.

643
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: But he's got I mean his career pass ratings eighty

644
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: two point two. Yeah, yeah, which, okay, if that's your

645
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: number three.

646
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. Is I think a

647
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: lot of teams, well they have looked at him as

648
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: they're two.

649
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if he's your three, well then that's a

650
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: high end three, you know.

651
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: I mean he can play, he can get you out

652
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: of games. He could certainly handle emergency situations. If he

653
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: has to start for a week, you might be competitive. Yeah,

654
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: it's not just throwing somebody off the strap.

655
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: H It's not gonna be oh, we gotta go out

656
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Speaker 2: there and run the ball seventy two times because he

657
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: can't complete the pass.

658
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean, frankly, it's not Duck Hodges, you know, yeah

659
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: in there. Yeah.

660
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Speaker 2: Now, he is different from your other two quarterbacks. He's

661
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: not a runner.

662
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

663
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a stiff, but I don't think

664
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: he ran a four to seven one at the combine.

665
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: But he really has He's more of a pocket pass. Yeah,

666
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: that's what he is.

667
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: He's not an athlete creator, you know, tuck the ball

668
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 3: and run type guy. If there's something there, you can

669
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: get it, slide and pop up and get something. But yeah,

670
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: so no, I think that's good signing. Again, I do

671
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: think you have the draft the receiver. I don't think

672
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: you have to draft the D lineman. I don't think

673
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: you have to draft a quarter Yeah, you don't have

674
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: to draft. I mean you can sign whoever. Now. Yeah,

675
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: as a you know.

676
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: In again, if if there's a quarterback there who you

677
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: really like in the fourth round or in the sixth round,

678
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I can't believe this guy's still there.

679
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 2: You know, the kid from Florida State, Well, he wouldn't

680
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: even need reps. Yeah, you're gonna put him. You're gonna

681
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: put him on scholarship for the year. Okay, yeah, yeah,

682
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: you know.

683
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: Be around. So we talked about this a lot, and

684
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: we do a bunch of mocks and things. You know,

685
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: like I'm interested in a Rattler or a Pratt or

686
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: him or Leary from Kentucky or something if the price

687
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: is right and there's not something screaming at me that

688
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: I have to have in the.

689
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: Draft, especially late in this draft.

690
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying like fifth round, fourth round, something

691
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: like that. However, I also want a lot of preseason

692
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: reps to go to fields, right.

693
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the that's the issue. That's why

694
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: that Florida you know, the Florida state.

695
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't he's done upon that, yeah, right.

696
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: I mean he's not gonna get he's he's on scholarship

697
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: for the year.

698
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Speaker 3: So I think that's part of this signing is we

699
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: don't need to do a lot of work with Alan

700
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: to get him ready to be our three. So that's

701
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: just more work for fields, you know.

702
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: The one thing you know again, as we talked to

703
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: Omar Kanyes, that he was asked about the center position

704
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: because that's the one now that's screaming.

705
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: I still think receiver is too.

706
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: You have enough guys. You have enough guys there now

707
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: that if you had to play tomorrow, yeah, you'd be

708
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 2: you'd be okay. We got some We got enough guy

709
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: to get us through this game and we'll be fine.

710
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: The center position, I don't know that they have that.

711
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: And that's nothing against Nate Herbig.

712
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: I've always thought he's a guard. Yeah, especially the scheme

713
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: like this that once a mobile center that's not really

714
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: his bag. I mean, I'm sure he could do it.

715
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: Or Spencer andersenter or moving James Daniels over those are

716
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: those are those are things?

717
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: Break break lass if necessary. Don't do that now, Yeah,

718
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean if you're going into the camp and you

719
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: found a guard, you might have a conversation with Daniels

720
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: saying what do you think about moving back to center? Yeah,

721
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: Or there's a chance they like Spen Spencer Anderson more

722
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: than the our listeners.

723
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Speaker 2: I mean, he'll certainly get opportunities this year. Yeah, if

724
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Speaker 2: they don't do something else at that position.

725
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be comfortable saying you're the opening.

726
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: These start yeah, you know, and Omar basically said, look,

727
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: we we've got you know, every everything, all the options

728
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: are still open. There's still some guys out there that

729
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: we could sign in the agency, Yeah, that we could

730
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: take a look at. There's still may be some trades

731
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: opportunities that pop up.

732
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Speaker 3: Yeah, when he said that, I haven't scanned the league,

733
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: but what centers could be available.

734
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: Well, you know, if somebody takes one of those young

735
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: centers in this, if they get beaten to you know,

736
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Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, those opportunities become available.

737
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Speaker 3: Let's say let's say, for example, Atlanta takes one. Oh,

738
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Speaker 3: then you call them, yeah about their guy?

739
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you just call that team about their their

740
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: current guy, and you say, okay, you just drafted one

741
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: of the Because those centers are going, those top three

742
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: centers are going to go pretty early.

743
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they'll all be top fifty one picks.

744
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah right. You know, so if you if those three

745
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: teams that take them and the Steelers get shut out

746
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: on that, now you start. Now you call those other

747
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: two Okay, who's available? You start making the phone calls,

748
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: who's available via trade?

749
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Speaker 3: So I haven't done this homework, but it wouldn't be

750
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Speaker 3: all that hard to do. I would look at teams

751
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: like the Steelers that have a new coordinator slash new system, like, hey,

752
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: we love the center, he doesn't fit in quite what

753
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: we need to do, so he he walks into a

754
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: situation it's not best for him. Or I would look

755
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Speaker 3: at teams that a year from now that have a

756
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Speaker 3: center with an expiring contract. You know, like most of

757
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: the guys you could probably pry away. I don't know

758
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: what that list is off the top of my head.

759
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, hard to center, right, Yeah, absolutely, but yeah, so

760
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: there are still options out there. And the other thing

761
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: that he stresses, like, you know, the key, the key

762
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: with this whole situation, with everything in free agency is patience. Yes,

763
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: you have to have patience.

764
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Speaker 3: I was joking on another airway. I mean, I think

765
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: Gomar's got alligator blood. I mean he's from Rounders, you know.

766
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's got alligator blood. He just waits

767
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: and waits and waits, and eventually he pounces on his

768
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: prey because I would be so much more anxious and

769
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: show my hand than the Steeler front office has.

770
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really it's like plan poker, as you

771
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: mentioned right right, You're sitting there and you don't know

772
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: what everybody else has. You have a pretty good idea,

773
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: what's what their good idea? Right, but you know their intentions.

774
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: You don't know what their intentions are. You don't know

775
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: if they're going to double down or you know what

776
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: they're going to do. But you just have to wait

777
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: it out and be patient and at some point something

778
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: will materialize that it will help solve your problem, and

779
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: maybe it won't be the ideal solution to your problem,

780
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: and it be a plan A.

781
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, right, Plan A probably wasn't gone in free agency,

782
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: to be honest with Yeah, I mean I thought there's

783
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: a good chance to sign a center, but at those prices,

784
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: I could see why they wouldn't. And we have countless examples,

785
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: but Joe Hayden's the best one to me. There's a

786
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: lot of time between now and opening day. Good stuff

787
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: happened tots. Yeah, you mean, do you want to be

788
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: able to pounce on those dudes? Or Connor Williams is

789
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: back to the heart All of a.

790
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: Sudden he's out and now you have a video of

791
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: him running and stuff like that.

792
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: Or someone gets cut late he didn't think would be there.

793
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: So there's opportunities will arise. And I like the word

794
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: patients you use there. I think it's important in this process. Absolutely,

795
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna get to another break. That's our next step

796
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: in this process. Yeah, but he is Matt Williams and

797
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly. We are here at the NFL Spring

798
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: meetings where everything is happening around the league. Here, seen

799
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: a lot of news and notes, but I wanted to

800
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: get back to draft.

801
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Stuff in the next set. Yeah, maybe get a little

802
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: little piece here that put out by our buddy lancecier

803
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Line on NFL dot Com ranking the positions in this

804
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: year's draft. Okay, I'll take a look at that. So

805
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: we'll do that when we return. You're listening to Steelers

806
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: Nation Radio.

807
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with dal La and Matt Williamson on

808
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

809
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is d Matt Williamson,

811
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Speaker 2: And as I mentioned there before the break at Lancer Line,

812
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: who does all the scouting stuff and the draft preview stuff,

813
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: a lot of les yeah for NFL dot Com. He

814
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: put together play yeah, he does vast majority of them.

815
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Speaker 2: He put together his kind of his rankings of the

816
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Speaker 2: eleven positions in this year's draft and the order that

817
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: he believes they fall in terms of strength, and the

818
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: way he did this this year, he said, he here's

819
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Speaker 2: the criteria he used. He said, I identified star caliber players,

820
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Speaker 2: future starters, and overall depth. Generally speaking, he concentrated on

821
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Speaker 2: prospects were most likely to be drafted in rounds one

822
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: through five, and he weighed star players and future starters

823
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Speaker 2: twice as heavily as overall depth. Range from ten to

824
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Speaker 2: thirty points.

825
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh wow, he's really technical about it. Yeah, so this.

826
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: Is yeah, I wanted to get that out of it

827
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: because he puts point values on gotcha some of these things.

828
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: So he is offense and not talking about it.

829
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: You can get this guy in the sixth round, six

830
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: seventh round, or especially in this draft.

831
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Speaker 3: Aren't real strong?

832
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, offensive tackle he assessed at twenty six points

833
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: at number one.

834
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: That's number one. Hard hard to argue with that. I say,

835
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: it's an unbelievable group. I mean, there is depth, but

836
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: the first round stuff is crazy sane, and I can't

837
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: say it enough, and I don't know if it'll go

838
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: this way. But the league has given you red paint,

839
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: and rarely do they give you red paint. Paint that

840
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: barn red.

841
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: He says he can see at least seven tackles picked

842
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: in the first round, with starters still to be found

843
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 2: on day two, in quality depth lasting into the fifth round.

844
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: One question I have and I don't have the answer

845
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: to this is I'm sure tackles will fall more than

846
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 3: they usually do in the depth world, second, third, fourth rounds,

847
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: you know, because teams to take one probably won't take

848
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: a second, right, I mean so you pull some people

849
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: out to the fishing pool, you know, but that's still

850
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: not a position to falls. I mean, no matter what

851
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they'll get scooped up pretty quick.

852
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: At number two, he has wide receiver at twenty four

853
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: and a half point, so not far off.

854
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: It should be right there.

855
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he mentions the top of the class

856
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, Molak, Neighbors, Roma Dunezia. But then he says,

857
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: you know, you start looking at the guys that could

858
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: be available on day two, which is where I'm interested here. Yeah, yeah,

859
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: Lad McConkey, Roman Wilson, Malachai Corley Xavier like get Troy Franklin,

860
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: Ricky Piersoll. I mean that's a sweet spot. I take

861
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: any of those guys. There's probably even more names. That

862
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: group is really attractive. Yeah, so for what you're paying

863
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: for it.

864
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: Before you're paying for him, I think day two is

865
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: a great spot to shop for receivers. And there's all

866
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: shapes and size. As we talked about the first segment,

867
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: they could take any type too. They don't be a

868
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: pigeon old for a slaughter and outside. I think there's

869
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: a chance two or three receivers will come off the

870
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Speaker 3: board before any tackles. Yeah, I mean there's probably a

871
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: real good chance at least one. Well, I'm sure probably

872
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: how many first round receivers or do you think end

873
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: up happening five, four or five? Yeah, yeah, I mean

874
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: maybe the Chiefs at the end might get six Honkey

875
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: or somebody like that. But yeah, so no, it's a

876
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 3: great group. I mean again, go shopping there.

877
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, you know, even in that Day three

878
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: there will be some prospects that maybe need a little

879
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: bit of polishing with some stuff, but they're starting caliber

880
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: players that you can get in that top one hundred.

881
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean even like the holy Cross kid, you know, yeah,

882
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: like he's probably coming to start. But there's a lot

883
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: to work with there.

884
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: His number three position is quarterback, which is kind of

885
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: with that I think there because of the star power

886
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: that you have at the top.

887
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 3: His criteria were future starters. Yeah, and I think there's

888
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: four to six future starters in there in the next two.

889
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: Years, he says, I expect we'll see four passers go

890
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: in the top ten again this year, maybe top four

891
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: could be, and he said we might even see four

892
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: selected in the top four pack. He says it, Yeah,

893
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: that draft is heavier on potential star power than usual.

894
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, Jade and Daniels Drake made JJ McCarthy. There's

895
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: also potential starters and bow Nick's Michael Pennix. Well, there's

896
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 2: also a good depth within that first fifty picks.

897
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean a rattler or something.

898
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: But after that it kind of falls off.

899
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be shopping too deep into

900
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: day three for that.

901
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. At four, this was kind of surprising to me.

902
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: He has edge defenders.

903
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: Really, I mean we haven't done a ton of twenty

904
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: two points. I mean there's probably four first rounders. Yeah,

905
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: there's any stars, though.

906
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: He has the group has legitimate potential star power with

907
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: Dallas Turner, Jared vers Lay two and Chop Robinson. Okay,

908
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: and then he says there's some guys in that lower

909
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: round like Austin Booker, marshawn neland or at desa Isaac.

910
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: It could be Day two guys that could develop into

911
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: solid starters.

912
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: We haven't done a lot of talking about the you know,

913
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: the Day two edge dudes, but it is a decent class.

914
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm splitting hairs, but one thing I would

915
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: argue with him, is I don't know that law too

916
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: or verse has a super high star ceiling. You know

917
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: where I think the other two in the first round, Mike,

918
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: if they hit.

919
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: He has cornerback at only seven team points, tied with

920
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: interior defensive line.

921
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 3: Really, I think corners.

922
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing at cornerback. And I've had some

923
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: people ask me about this on social media. There's not

924
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: the star power at corner at corner in this draft.

925
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of dudes.

926
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: Dudes.

927
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: It's it's it's like, why it's like the wide receiver

928
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: position without the guys.

929
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: On the top ten. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

930
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 2: He said, look at players that could go late Day one,

931
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: early day two, Enis Raystraw, Cooper Dejen kool A McKinstry.

932
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: You'd be happy to get those guys. Yeah, you know

933
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: early in Day two.

934
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: TJ Tampa might be in that conversation, there's a handful

935
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: of them. And again, I think sweet spot wise is

936
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: another Day two position to go shopping in, you know.

937
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if you're looking for slot cornerbacks,

938
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: there's plenty, there's plenty.

939
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot to pick from in this group,

940
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: they usually go around later or so. Yeah, you know,

941
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: they're not going to go top of the draft. I

942
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: am curious, which is who is the first corner off

943
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: the board and how early does he go?

944
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be the interesting part of it. I

945
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: bet those receiver, the receivers, the quarterbacks, and the offensive

946
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: tackles are going to dominate early.

947
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

948
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Uh, the interior defensive line that would be lower. There

949
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: are some you know, if you look at it strictly

950
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: from a Steeler's perspective, with what they're looking for, the

951
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: guys who are six four, six, five sixty six, it's

952
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: the it's slim picking out of them. Yeah, if you're

953
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: looking for a Byron Murphy, you're looking for a jers

954
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: On Newton. Yeah, you look, you know, to and Andre Sweat.

955
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: These guys are you know those guys are available. Michael

956
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: Hall is another one of those guys at six to two.

957
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gonna go reasonably high.

958
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. That don't really fit into what the Steelers would

959
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: want from a defensive one.

960
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: The LSU kid is it Mingo or Wingo? That was

961
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 3: a great tester of it just doesn't only fit the Steelers.

962
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: There are more bowling balls types. Yeah, those kind of

963
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: guys are available. There aren't the classic Steelers three four

964
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: defensive ends. Yeah right.

965
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: At seven he has interior offensive line. At sixteen and

966
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 2: a half points, that would be centers and guards.

967
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: I wish he broke it down into the two, but

968
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: I mean that's hard to do. I mean when we

969
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 3: do lists, we always do it interier. Yeah. Two, Because

970
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 3: I just think center is a lot better than guard.

971
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says Graham Barton Jackson powers Johnson come off

972
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: the board in the first round as centers who can

973
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: also play guard. That's what makes that tough.

974
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody could see them and hey, we're just gonna

976
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: put him at guard for a year, maybe two years

977
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: from now. We put them at center.

978
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: I mean that's why they lump them together.

979
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: I get that.

980
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: I just think the center group is better than the

981
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: guard group.

982
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: You know. He said, teams that will be able to

983
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: go into the fourth round and maybe even round five

984
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: to find future starting centers this year.

985
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: See, people don't think of that. I mean there's a

986
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: lot of our listeners and.

987
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: I but that's the future starting centers right right, rightyeah right.

988
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people say they have to

989
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: get Frasier or Barton or Powers Johnson, and I understand that.

990
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: I mean, if any of them is going to be

991
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: a pouncy type force, it's going to probably be one

992
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 3: of those three. But you can get Borderlini or you

993
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: can get you know, the Penn Stake guys. All right, Yeah,

994
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: there's a there's three or four others that you'll get

995
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: round three year later it might be the world. Yeah, yeah,

996
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: there's a fallback plan there.

997
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. At eight is running back with just fourteen points? Yeah,

998
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: nobody in the first round.

999
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: No.

1000
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: I think if Jonathan Brooks were healthy, I think he'd

1001
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: be a borderline first he'd be top fifty guy.

1002
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1003
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not, I don't think, and he.

1004
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: Will be off the board when the Steelers picking a

1005
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: round two.

1006
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: It's a good chance. Yeah, yeah, good chance.

1007
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: I was talking about this on a different outlet that

1008
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: I don't think you want to be I think running

1009
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: back should be a game of chicken that isn't going

1010
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: to really involve the Steelers. But if you're one of

1011
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: the first, you're Dallas, you.

1012
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: Know, one of these teams that really needs one.

1013
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a team that picks first,

1014
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: I want to be I want to get the fifth

1015
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: back at a discount, and I think there will be

1016
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: and Steeler fans will love it. Some point in this draft,

1017
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: a run, there's gonna be a run.

1018
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there see teams wanting the trade up

1019
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: to get into that run.

1020
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I could see eight of them going in fifteen

1021
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: picks the late third round or something.

1022
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: As he said, there's uh, you'll probably see six backs.

1023
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: As many as six backs go in the top one

1024
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: hundred picks. And that's how that could work. That run.

1025
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 2: If that run, let's say that run started at forty

1026
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: five ish, Oh great, that'd be fantastic. They be like

1027
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: sixty five ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that wine that helps

1028
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: you with your your third round pick at eighty four.

1029
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: If a bunch of those backs start.

1030
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: To fall off the board, yeah, like when they pick

1031
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: in the second round, I think that most will be

1032
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 3: one gone. Let's say there's zero, but when they picking

1033
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: the third the next pick.

1034
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: Those six guys could have gone yeah gone right.

1035
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1036
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: So that's that's interesting. Uh, tied for eight at fourteen

1037
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: points is tight end. It's pretty ofugh, it's pretty rough,

1038
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: and that's what brought powers.

1039
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: That's with brock Hours the potential top ten pick. That's uh,

1040
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts, you know, like tight prospect that's going to

1041
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: go high. I had a hard time putting together five

1042
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: that I was thrilled with. Yeah, my top five. Yeah,

1043
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: that was that was a tough one.

1044
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: It was because you, like, you're whereas some of the others,

1045
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: Like when we were putting together our offensive tackle triple

1046
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: take there they were there were first round guys that

1047
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 2: didn't make the top five.

1048
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you're putting together to make your

1049
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: top five, you're putting together your your top five tight ends.

1050
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like six round picks.

1051
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, like I don't think either one

1052
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: of us had mims are geitting in our tackle list.

1053
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but if they were a similar tight end prospect,

1054
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: they would have been two mean easily, you know, slam dunk,

1055
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: you know, so shows and then finally the last two

1056
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: safety thirteen points. You know this better than I do

1057
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: because you do the editing. But that was another tough one.

1058
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: Mike Pursuder, you and I do are we did that

1059
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: one just dropped today? Okay, go look that up, guys,

1060
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: because you're gonna see more than five names on there.

1061
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of variants in our top five,

1062
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 3: and I had a real hard time putting that list together.

1063
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: There are some guys that I do like in those

1064
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: second third round, but their second and third round is

1065
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: maybe even into the fourth round though. You know, the

1066
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: tyler knew when to me stood out. I thought he

1067
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: was clearly one. Yeah, yeah, and I think I think

1068
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: we all had him one. And then you know, then

1069
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: it's Dadrian Taylor Demerson or Cole Bishop or you know, Javon.

1070
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: Bullard, you know into Miami kid Kitchens or the USC

1071
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: kid Bullock were pretty high name, high pedigree guys.

1072
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: They didn't make my top five. I wasn't that blown

1073
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: away by and they were my top five either. Uh.

1074
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: And then finally true linebackers at eleven, which again is

1075
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: why that the Steelers Patrick Queen signing, Well that huge.

1076
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. I mean, is that number?

1077
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: Is that the last one?

1078
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: That's the last one? Eleven points and you're looking at

1079
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: He says he believes it's unlikely a line backer is

1080
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: taken in the top forty this year.

1081
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: I can see that, I mean, I can see that

1082
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: maybe somebody loves Wilson from NC State.

1083
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: If he's clean, maybe.

1084
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, an A and M Kim's intrigue games. Yeah, And

1085
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: I think there could be a little bit of run

1086
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 3: on those top guys.

1087
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Speaker 2: Early round two if you really need one. Yeah, kind

1088
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: of like the running backs position, if you do. If

1089
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: you have an opening there, you're gonna jump on it

1090
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: because it's it's pretty thin.

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00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: And it's sort of like safety. There's some fourth rounders

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00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind having at that cost.

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00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: As developmental guys, but I wouldn't want to have to

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00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: start them right away. There's like two or three guys

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00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: in this draft that I'm like, Okay, I could put

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00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: this guy in my line up in day one. He's

1097
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: not gonna be a star. He might be the answer,

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00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: but he might be the answer yeah yeah, where And

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00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: then the guys after that are like, Okay, he's going

1100
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: to take a year or two to develop, and that's

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00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: you know, do you want to wait on that?

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Speaker 3: So if you work backwards off this list, you know

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00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: the scarcest positions in the draft. But where was the

1104
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: Steelers biggest splash at the eleventh I mean the most

1105
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: scarce linebacker safety? Safety was another guy they went outside

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00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: the organization. They're agreeing with you, and they went shopping

1107
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: so they don't have to go drafting in the shallow waters.

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00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely waters, which is smart, smart business, exactly exactly. That's

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00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: how you set up a team well and get the

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Speaker 3: most out of your picks.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. So that was Lancer Line's rankings of this the

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00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: depth of this draft again, offensive tackle number one, wide

1113
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: receiver number two, quarterback, three, edge defender, four cornerback. Five

1114
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: tied for fifth with interior defensive line, which I'm surprised

1115
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: was that high. It's seven interior offensive line, eight running back,

1116
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: nine tight eight tight tight tight end, ten safety, and

1117
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: eleven linebacker. And that you know, when we saw in

1118
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: free agency a lot of the guards signed could be

1119
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: the same thing that the that the league was telling

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00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: us like, oh, we gotta get we got to go

1121
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: get these interior offensive linemen. We have to pay for

1122
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: him this year because this is the top of the board,

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00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: especially a guard, just a true guard type.

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00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: All the running back movement early indicated they don't want

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00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: to go shopping here.

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Speaker 2: But the four scarcest positions are ones.

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00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: I don't think the Steelers even care if they draft, yeah,

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Speaker 3: especially not now as it stands right now.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is Matt Williams

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Speaker 2: and I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive. We

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Speaker 2: are live here at the NFL meetings here and in Orlando,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back for You can watch the show,

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Speaker 2: of course again on the Steelers YouTube channel as well.

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Speaker 2: kinds of good content on there, sit down interviews just

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Speaker 2: from down here with Mike Tom and with Omar Kahn.

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Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff they're available on there, lots of

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Speaker 2: They do a lot of special programming as well, just

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Speaker 2: some some really fun shows that that these guys put together.

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Speaker 2: Rard and a Meal here. They help out with those things,

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Speaker 2: so check those out. We're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our number two right after this