WEBVTT - Brian Baldinger, Bart Scott and Chris Long Discuss How the Jets Can Get Back On Track (11/15)

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<v Speaker 2>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to start with Bart Scott and Brian Baldinger.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Long is up next in a few moments as well.

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<v Speaker 2>A few things to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he's really high on the Jets defense. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>This weekend kind of feels like a desperation game or

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<v Speaker 1>an elimination game in terms of the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you look at the field is wide open now.

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<v Speaker 3>Even the Raiders have to feel like they have life

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<v Speaker 3>and opportunity to actually, you know, make a run for

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<v Speaker 3>one of these last spots in a wildcard. So with

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<v Speaker 3>that being said, nobody's going to down. Everybody believes they

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<v Speaker 3>have a real chance, and you have to start winning.

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<v Speaker 3>November December is when you make the dash for the cash.

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<v Speaker 3>Is when the crane rides to the top. And a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these teams that are fighting are going to

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<v Speaker 3>start playing each other and it's going to be who

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<v Speaker 3>can make those moments and have these small victories, win

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<v Speaker 3>these battles so they can hopefully win the war to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Both these teams are scuffling when you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills and the Jets right now, especially on the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball. For the Jets. Where you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Bills, I mean, they're dealing with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things on all three levels, but they made a

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<v Speaker 1>change at the offensive coordinator position. No more can dor

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<v Speaker 1>Sy Joe Brady steps in.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, winning cures everything. There's nothing like winning, so

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<v Speaker 4>all the noise goes away as soon as you win

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<v Speaker 4>a game. If you win two games, it's like you

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<v Speaker 4>never heard it. And it's just the seasons, the season

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<v Speaker 4>every year, the teams that were good at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 4>like or the teams that were bad at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 4>like Denver was bad in the beginning, horrible, right, Minnesota

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<v Speaker 4>was bad at the beginning. Look at these teams right now.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all a sending so you never know when it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to turn and what turns it. It could be

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<v Speaker 4>a play, it could be a game, It could be

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<v Speaker 4>a moment, but things can turn and so you always

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<v Speaker 4>have to stay positive. There's always opportunities to win these games.

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<v Speaker 4>It was last week against the Raiders. There's opportunities to win.

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<v Speaker 4>You get the ball at the two yard line, you

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<v Speaker 4>gotta score. Like it's just that simple. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 4>who the coordinator is, who the offensive line is, the

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<v Speaker 4>balls at the two yard line, you gotta score a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>And so teams are struggling when you can't do that,

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<v Speaker 4>or when you're turning it over the way Buffalo's turning

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<v Speaker 4>it over. Somebody's got to be the fall guy. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what Sean McDermott did. He's like, we can't allow this

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<v Speaker 4>to go any further, so we're gonna make this drastic change.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna elevate this guy and we'll see, we'll see,

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<v Speaker 4>like they got their fingers crossed, if the mistakes can

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<v Speaker 4>go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, this is a nightmare matchup for the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>because the Jets have always matched up well with them

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<v Speaker 1>from a defensive angle, and now you got a sputtering

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<v Speaker 1>offense and the first game up for the new coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>is against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, the crazy thing is right, you know, Buff

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<v Speaker 3>and Josh Allen has always been a turnover machine.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue was the defense was.

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<v Speaker 3>Always there to bail them out and create opportunities and

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<v Speaker 3>get turnovers. Remember a couple of years ago, this was

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<v Speaker 3>the number one defense in the league right and didn't

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<v Speaker 3>give up big plays. And they look what they did

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<v Speaker 3>early on against a team like Miami. But it's about

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<v Speaker 3>over attrition. When you think about the NFL season, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a marathon, not a sprint, and you know people are

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<v Speaker 3>going to get hurt, and some injuries have greater impact

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<v Speaker 3>than others. I think Milano who was playing at an

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<v Speaker 3>all pro you know, before Quincy Williams came out and

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<v Speaker 3>started doing this thing. Milano was playing the best linebacker

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<v Speaker 3>maybe in the AFC by himself. He gets hurt, to

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<v Speaker 3>Davis White gets hurt, and then it's a trickle down

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<v Speaker 3>effect and then you have to try and play differently.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't call your place where you were built.

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<v Speaker 3>Von Miller hasn't come back and been the player today

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<v Speaker 3>thought and so like now they're spuntally.

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<v Speaker 2>So now if you're the Jets, if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Continue to generate turnovers and get the ball and short

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<v Speaker 3>fields and make big plays and get off the field.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have that defense where maybe the offense can

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<v Speaker 3>play in the field position get some big plays because

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<v Speaker 3>there are opportunities to get had. You just have to

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<v Speaker 3>identify the matchups that you have and you have to

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<v Speaker 3>exploit them every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Robert Salaz said, it's gonna be changes on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the ball. It's not gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback position. It's not gonna be the guy calling the signals.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw early this week the Jets released Michael Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>veteran running back who took on a third down role

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<v Speaker 1>for this team. Do you think we're gonna see? Is is

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<v Speaker 1>he Abana Kanda not only active but getting some opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>with the ball because you got you got a big

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<v Speaker 1>dog in that backfield with Breest Hall already and Dalvin

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<v Speaker 1>Cook showed some ju.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to put your playmakers on the field. And

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<v Speaker 4>we believe what we saw from Izzy in the preseason

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<v Speaker 4>that this guy and then you just watch him at

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<v Speaker 4>Pitt you got to put the ball in his hands

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<v Speaker 4>and give him a chance. Well you'll never know what

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<v Speaker 4>he ken or cannot do until he carries the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think there's gonna be opportunities. They have

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<v Speaker 4>run the ball well against Buffalo, they did last year

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<v Speaker 4>when they beat them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, Like they gotta lean on that.

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<v Speaker 4>But any way that you can get Breessee, is he

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<v Speaker 4>like the ball in space or just touches, we might

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<v Speaker 4>see that explosiveness. They score from fifty yards away a

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<v Speaker 4>lot better than they score from two yards away sometimes,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of teams do. So let's see what

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<v Speaker 4>he can do. You know something about a rookie, they

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what, they don't know like, but he's fast.

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<v Speaker 4>He's fast, and he knows how to finish. So I'd

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<v Speaker 4>like to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an awesome system fit.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this, you know because when you think about it, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm the Jets, we got seventy players.

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<v Speaker 2>In the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty are going to be runs, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be explosive runs, but their body blows.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember what this team, you know in the two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and nine and twenty ten were right. They're a team

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<v Speaker 3>that breaks you down, right, you're talking about it. You're

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<v Speaker 3>going against a defense that has a lot of injured players.

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<v Speaker 3>The last thing they want to do is to be

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<v Speaker 3>in car wrecks over and over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 3>that levee usually breaks in the second half. And I

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<v Speaker 3>love the fact that you can bring a young guy

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<v Speaker 3>much like when we brought Sean Green when remember Thomas

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<v Speaker 3>Jones was leading the league in rushing, but who who

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<v Speaker 3>was the finisher and who was the spark in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Sean Green because he had fresh legs. Not

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<v Speaker 3>only do you have Izzy who has fresh legs, you

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<v Speaker 3>also have Dalvin Cook who has fresh legs, who looked

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<v Speaker 3>like he was, you know, popping out of his skin

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<v Speaker 3>last week. So continue, right, So continue to get those

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<v Speaker 3>because those one and two yard runs in the first

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<v Speaker 3>quarter becomes you know, two to three in the second quarter,

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<v Speaker 3>they become four to five or big plays or we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen big plays from Breeze early on. If guys aren't

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<v Speaker 3>stretched out, listen, it's gonna be cold. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>can get guys to have to put them hamstrings to

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<v Speaker 3>the test early on they're not stretched out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's opportunities to beat guys as they're not warmed up yet.

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<v Speaker 3>And you got these young backs and you just throwing

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<v Speaker 3>them at him, throwing them at it's like not getting

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<v Speaker 3>a break and having double doubles, right, when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what the Raiders did. They said we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get movement. We're not gonna guys get penetration. I think

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<v Speaker 3>about going against a guy like Ed Oliver. I love

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<v Speaker 3>ed Oliver. I thought they should have drafted him. I

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<v Speaker 3>was a big fan of his when he came out.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a one guy penetrator. He's a light player. I

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<v Speaker 3>will trap him and wham block him to death because

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna get up the field. I will trap and

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<v Speaker 3>block him and run the ball downhill at these inexperienced

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<v Speaker 3>linebackers and where they ass down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Linvil Joseph, he can't play fifty snaps.

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<v Speaker 2>He just came in off.

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<v Speaker 3>You get a guy like Lynnville Joseph and you're playing

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<v Speaker 3>this up tempo.

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<v Speaker 2>See.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is the Jets never get to the line

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<v Speaker 3>of scrimmage where they can figure out the answers to

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<v Speaker 3>the test. They're usually getting out the huddle at fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>and get to the line of scrimmage, and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm a defender, I'm looking at the clock and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, no matter what. If I get a

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<v Speaker 3>caden and it's within three seconds, I know it has

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<v Speaker 3>to be on this Caden, So I'm getting out. When

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<v Speaker 3>you look at what other teams do, they get their

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<v Speaker 3>muddle huddles. They get there and they may not have

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<v Speaker 3>the play yet, but you can talk to the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>up to fifteen seconds. Get these guys to the line

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<v Speaker 3>of scrimmage, smoke these guys out with dummy plays. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that takes discipline, but that's gonna let you see where

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<v Speaker 3>the blitz is coming from. And then it also allows

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<v Speaker 3>your coordinator to talk to you and say, hey, check

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<v Speaker 3>to this. That's the game within the game. You see

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<v Speaker 3>justin Herbert do it all the time. You see some

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<v Speaker 3>of the better quarterbacks all the time. They get to

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<v Speaker 3>shoes the player with It's not it's not a hurry up.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you get to the line of scrimmage, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you have more time to read the boxes. Are we

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<v Speaker 3>gonna run this run?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you got defenders. I mean, listen, Peyton's doing

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<v Speaker 2>to this all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You got guys fat, Yeah, three hundred and twenty pounds

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<v Speaker 3>plus they're sitting in a stands. It's like doing a wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit for sixteen to seventeen seconds. If that dry and

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<v Speaker 3>if that drive goes eight plays, guys of thigves are burning.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of pass rush you think you got?

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<v Speaker 3>If you sitting there, you see guys they've being a

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<v Speaker 3>three point then they finally taking me a look up,

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<v Speaker 3>like the hell, what's going on? Then they come back

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<v Speaker 3>down right motion shifts. But as a lineman and you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the two points saying you're chilling, you're good with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching Buffalo's game in the loss to Denver

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<v Speaker 4>and Limbo Joseph is out there. So he's the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>guy on the field right now. You know, he like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what kind of shape lin ball's in.

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<v Speaker 4>He's always been a big guy, but you gotta test

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<v Speaker 4>it like he's the one. Look, he's there to stop

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<v Speaker 4>the run. He's gonna sit on the zero technique and

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<v Speaker 4>be right on top of Joe Tipman. He just wondering

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<v Speaker 4>like if you run almost like what part's saying. If

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<v Speaker 4>you go up tempo and you're having some success running

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<v Speaker 4>the ball and you keep him on the field like that,

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<v Speaker 4>Gus is going out of that tank pretty fast, like

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Get so now.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you you burpned the baby right, just think

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<v Speaker 3>all you have to do is get one first down,

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<v Speaker 3>like great pass rushers. They got about four good pass

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<v Speaker 3>rushers before, like they done, and a guy like lim

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<v Speaker 3>Vill Joe, So now you're basically playing against three instead

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<v Speaker 3>of four, right, because now you can man him up

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<v Speaker 3>like we guys used to do that all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You try and get like Chris Jenkins, you try and

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<v Speaker 3>get Vince Wilford, you want to know, huddle o Temple

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<v Speaker 3>and get them stuck where they can't run out to

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<v Speaker 3>try and change, and you know what their connor is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be lobster, right, But you only get lobster

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<v Speaker 3>so many times somebody's gonna think an injury. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>how you know you got it. Somebody gonna go down,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my arm, oh my leg, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're gonna try and do it early, but then

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<v Speaker 3>you can't keep doing that. You get one or two

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<v Speaker 3>times to do lobster. So I'll catch it. I'll catch

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<v Speaker 3>his other a game. Yup, Yeah, fat boy, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>chut your cardio today.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the guys in the middle, you like what

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen here from Joe Tipman, not only back as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the whole portfolio, going back to early in

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<v Speaker 1>the season, but you think he's been playing very well

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<v Speaker 1>at center.

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<v Speaker 2>He's such a good player man, and like to be

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<v Speaker 2>that tall.

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<v Speaker 3>Like guys think they can just run through him, but

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<v Speaker 3>they don't realize that weight comes with height. But also,

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<v Speaker 3>like you, I forgot the great philosopher to say, give

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<v Speaker 3>me a lever big enough when I moved the world

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<v Speaker 3>off his axis because he plays.

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<v Speaker 2>With yeah, yeah, so he played.

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<v Speaker 3>He plays with such leverage that when those feet are anchored,

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<v Speaker 3>he's able to hold bigger guys off and he sticks

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<v Speaker 3>to him because of at height, and he knows how

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<v Speaker 3>to use his height with the right angle. Now sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>he may get ahead of his ski sometimes, but when

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<v Speaker 3>he got you and he's able to bend, you might

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<v Speaker 3>get him back one two. But after that those feet

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<v Speaker 3>are stuck in the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>It's his natural position. Yeah, I mean he was drafted

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<v Speaker 4>to be a center. I mean he was forced into

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<v Speaker 4>play the right guard because of the situation. But this

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<v Speaker 4>is what they drafted him to be the long term

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<v Speaker 4>answer at center. Whether it's you know, that's what Nick

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<v Speaker 4>Mangold was. You know, you go back in the history. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they've had Kevin, like they've had great centers here. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I think he could be in that tradition of guys

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<v Speaker 4>that have come through here and played a long time

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<v Speaker 4>and at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you making back then? After nine games now

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were wondering, Hey, could he make

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<v Speaker 1>it through nine snaps?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he was awesome against the Chargers, like he's

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<v Speaker 4>going up against Bosa Mack. He eliminated him. He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have really a bad set. I thought last week he

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<v Speaker 4>had some plays where he like to have him back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he just frustrated, Like I think they should

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<v Speaker 4>run behind him. Okay, you know that's what he does best.

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<v Speaker 4>He moves people. So I mean I build my offense

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<v Speaker 4>around running behind him.

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<v Speaker 3>That whole side him and Langdon Town it just worked.

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<v Speaker 3>There were pulling Tipman front side, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Just be a left handed team. Like, to me, that's

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<v Speaker 4>that should be a strength of this team right now,

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<v Speaker 4>lean on it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My point of Beck then is that nobody gave him

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<v Speaker 1>a shot before the beginning of the season. They said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is never going to do it. Always her

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<v Speaker 1>football league. You got to give him a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>credit for what he did body wise, and then also

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<v Speaker 1>just coming out here, the Jets continue to shuffle in

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<v Speaker 1>personnel left and right along the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>On the right, and the one constant has been and

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy right.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what's crazy right? Everybody knows that.

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<v Speaker 3>People listening may or may not know, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I come here, we shoot, you know today, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I go into that little room right there and I

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<v Speaker 3>shoot my radio show.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a New.

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<v Speaker 1>York that's one of the three.

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<v Speaker 3>So as I'm shooting my radio show, the indoor facility

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<v Speaker 3>is right behind me, and I'm looking out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>And about two o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time i'm here, I look out and I see

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<v Speaker 3>Beck then out there with the coach doing individual work.

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<v Speaker 3>I see it every week now, this week nine, I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen it every week. So it's what you do in

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<v Speaker 3>the dark comes to the light. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he's putting that work in nobody else sees that. I

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<v Speaker 3>see it, the coaches see it, Nobody else in the

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<v Speaker 3>league sees it he because it's not like he's there

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like some other guys with him. It's him

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<v Speaker 3>and a coach and he's working on sets and he's

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<v Speaker 3>working on his technique. That's how you become a professional.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to continue to sharpen the knife, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why he's able to stay healthy. That's why he's

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<v Speaker 3>able to play at a high level. Does he struggle

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<v Speaker 3>at times with certain types of rushers, Yes, right, But

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<v Speaker 3>you know he's been playing superstent and this is a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that we thought, oh man, this guy's always hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in camp one practice, he's out the next. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's confident in his knee, and I think he

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<v Speaker 3>feels confidence because he always believed that, you know, that

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<v Speaker 3>injury will be protected if he played left tackle. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he's proven us Rome improving himself right.

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<v Speaker 1>Bart Watson tempo offensively. Zach Wilson last week against the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders became the sixth player in the National Football League

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<v Speaker 1>this season half two hundred fifty yards passing and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards rushing in the same game. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets weren't moving the football against the Raiders. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the missed opportunities in the first half.

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<v Speaker 4>Baldi opportunities. You know, in a game where it's basically,

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<v Speaker 4>you score a touchdown, you're gonna win a game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really just that simple, just one touchdown, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>what it's been like against a lot of teams like Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 4>The first game against the Eagles, all they needed was

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<v Speaker 4>a touchdown. They got a touchdown. So, you know, kicking

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<v Speaker 4>field goals can can be good. But I thought they

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<v Speaker 4>moved the ball well enough to be able to finish

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<v Speaker 4>these drives, and so I think there's almost a mental

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<v Speaker 4>block you do. Yeah, and they've got you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think once they break the dam and they get through

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<v Speaker 4>it and they score, I think they can score more frequently.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just some kind of a block that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the holding call on Breee Hall's touchdown, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>unfortunate things that do happen. But penalties happen because you're

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<v Speaker 4>not in position. That's generally why penalties happen, especially holding calls.

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<v Speaker 4>Your feet aren't in the right place, your your body

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<v Speaker 4>is not in the right place. So you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>comes down to detailing your business, you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>every single play can be that play with when you

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<v Speaker 4>have Garrett Wilson and you have Breese Hall, you never

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<v Speaker 4>know when one of those guys touching the ball can

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<v Speaker 4>finish you know, a long ways away.

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<v Speaker 3>And what was disappointing about that is that those penalties

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<v Speaker 3>came from veterans and you know, you have to start

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<v Speaker 3>holding your teammates accountable and understand that. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>brought you here to elevate our young quarterback and you're

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<v Speaker 3>hurting the team. And you have to understand when you

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<v Speaker 3>get a holding penalty down on the one yard line,

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<v Speaker 3>not all penanties are created equally, right, You've got less

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<v Speaker 3>feel to work with.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the one yard line.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you miss your block, breech Hall is good

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<v Speaker 3>enough to make you right, so or brische Hall. Even

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<v Speaker 3>if you do that and it's early in the down,

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<v Speaker 3>it's first in goal. Even if it's a tackle for

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<v Speaker 3>a one yard game, you should have three opportunities. But

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<v Speaker 3>everything changes as far as play calling. If you get

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<v Speaker 3>a holding penalty on the one yard line, it goes

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<v Speaker 3>from because it's no first down to get. It's either

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<v Speaker 3>a touchdown or nothing, and it's field goal or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have to be smarter in situations. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's where it's frustrating that they're getting they're getting

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<v Speaker 3>into the red zone, but they're having concentration gaps and

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<v Speaker 3>understand it. I can't get it here, I can't hold here.

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<v Speaker 3>If he beats me, he beats me. I just got

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<v Speaker 3>to stay connected to his body and know that I

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<v Speaker 3>got a two hundred and twenty pounds back that can

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<v Speaker 3>run through a nard tackle. So even if the guy's

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<v Speaker 3>beating me, if I'm still on his left ard, he

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<v Speaker 3>only has his right arm free, that's not enough to

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<v Speaker 3>bring breeze. Now, So that's what you're talking about. You

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the football acumen and being a veteran team

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't beat yourself. Are you gonna lose at times? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to understand when you know, taking the l

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<v Speaker 3>can still be a w if you don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>make the Cardinals stand by giving us fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't try to do too much bout of mine. So

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<v Speaker 1>what about this little stretch here? Jets Bills Sunday. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you had a couple of days and you're back, first

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday game Friday nine and file history against the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this thing can swing in a hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>Division games. Look, these division games count almost two. Because

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about this, you know already, like if Buffalo

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<v Speaker 4>loses this game, they're reeling five and six, they lose

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<v Speaker 4>two in a row at home, the fans are turning

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<v Speaker 4>on them like this. This team had high expectations. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>So you go in there and you beat Buffalo, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll see what happens Miami this weekend against the

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<v Speaker 4>This doesn't really matter. We know that that that offense

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<v Speaker 4>can be defended against good defenses. Kansas City has done it,

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<v Speaker 4>Buffalo has done it, Philadelphia has done it. We've seen

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<v Speaker 4>good defenses have slowed that offense down. So there's the

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<v Speaker 4>question of can you get into some kind of rhythm

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<v Speaker 4>for your offense. And that's really what the season is

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<v Speaker 4>about right now. And I believe this. If the offense

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<v Speaker 4>comes out, let's just say they take the opening drive

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<v Speaker 4>and score, okay, and you kind of get rid of

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<v Speaker 4>this block that I'm talking about. You know what that's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do to the defense, Like they're already playing hard,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're just gonna play that much harder. Like we

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<v Speaker 4>got an offense, say we got points like we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to win games if you're not scoring points.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just hard.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care how good your defense is. So but

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<v Speaker 4>if you can score and you do that against Buffalo

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<v Speaker 4>and win, it's gonna the confidence in this building is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna change.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you think about you know, getting the score

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<v Speaker 3>the team the defense can say they're gonna put on themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>say you know what, if we don't give up a score,

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<v Speaker 3>we win because we're going to also play the field

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<v Speaker 3>position game. And understand what that does to Buffalo in

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<v Speaker 3>the fan base. Quiets the crowd, allows you to hear,

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<v Speaker 3>but also it deflates them, like, oh here we go again.

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<v Speaker 3>Because listen, when you fire your coordinator, you're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>somebody to blame. But if you get the same result

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.520
<v Speaker 3>and the just defense play up to their capabilities, then

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<v Speaker 3>they run out of people to blame. So then now

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<v Speaker 3>reality sets in because they play their card. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the coordinator, it's us. We're not that good.

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<v Speaker 3>In the realization that that window that opened three years

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<v Speaker 3>ago when they had that tremendous game playoff game against

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<v Speaker 3>Kent's City and they thought they were right there, they

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<v Speaker 3>have to come to the realization that we got old.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, windows open and closed in this league when

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<v Speaker 3>you have a great franchise quarterback like Josh Allen, but

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<v Speaker 3>this version of the Buffalo Bills is closed. Gabe Davis

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<v Speaker 3>could be going next year. Diggs is a problem. They're

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 3>stuck with him. He could become a malcatate. He becomes

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 3>somebody that becomes a distraction. They really can't run the football.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you got Dion Dawkins. You know you got

0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 3>guys that are getting older. Spencer Brown is not a

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<v Speaker 3>good player, right.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta wear him out. You gotta wear him out, right,

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<v Speaker 4>tackle he got to be the fish you got. You

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<v Speaker 4>gotta like this should be lined up wanting to go

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<v Speaker 4>against him every time.

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<v Speaker 1>In one jet who probably doesn't get enough credit because

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<v Speaker 1>what those young dudes have been doing is John Franklin Meyer.

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<v Speaker 1>John Franklin My historically has been a big issue for

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Brown because he bullies them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so well, you could bully him, or you can

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<v Speaker 4>speed rush him. You can get your way with him.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's a They like him. He's a tough guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a pretty decent run blocker, but he's a liability

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<v Speaker 4>in protection. And so that's really like when they lose

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<v Speaker 4>to Cincinnati. They lose the Cincinnati because they get beat

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<v Speaker 4>up front and Josh Allen is trying to play hero ball.

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<v Speaker 4>He's trying to do too much because he has to

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<v Speaker 4>in order, and that's when he's guilty making some turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a fascinating matchup on so many levels. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that the Bills did this move prior to

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<v Speaker 1>playing the Jets defense as opposed to prior to playing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Broncles.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they couldn't wait, they couldn't waste any more time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you look at their schedule, when was a

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<v Speaker 3>good day game to say? Okay against the Cowboys. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they still have the Eagles next week. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 3>have the toughest schedule remaining.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a Jets fan, aren't you excited about? Okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the offense eight touchdowns and nine games. We know, we

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<v Speaker 1>know about the problems as far as the penalties, but

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<v Speaker 1>they moved the ball. They still got Breest Hall, It's

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<v Speaker 1>still got Garrett Wilson. You're gonna see more young guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see more young guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Juice. They need juice.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see what the shake cups going to

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<v Speaker 3>be because they need more juice.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you anticipate? So we talked about Izzie

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Okay, let's out and here before Friss.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I see Bromley?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, hey, Alan, if you're not healthy, we gotta

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<v Speaker 3>sit you down, and we gotta get somebody else's opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>They need somebody to step up opposite Garrett Wilson. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't because if I'm playing the Jets, I'm saying, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>load the box, double Garrett Wilson, single up, Alan Lazard.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a extra man in the box. I should

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<v Speaker 3>better dominate. Somebody has to make somebody pay the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>DJ Reed had to say, not on my watch, because

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<v Speaker 3>people are going away from Salt. We need somebody opposite. Say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna disrespect me and man block me with your

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<v Speaker 3>second best corner, or in the slot, you're gonna put

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<v Speaker 3>your third best corner on me. You think I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna win because you're you're putting extra resources to stop

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<v Speaker 3>Garrett Wilson and the extra guy to stop Breeze Hall.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'm gonna make you pay. Play me honest.

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<v Speaker 2>So I lied.

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<v Speaker 1>I got one more for you. Ball things got his.

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<v Speaker 1>He got his numbers in week one because they moved

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<v Speaker 1>him around because they knew, okay, playing the Jazz, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't travel. Yeah, so we got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we move him around. He got his what's the counter

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<v Speaker 1>this week? On both sides because you know, Josh Allen's

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to keep Digs engaged because if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't get gone.

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<v Speaker 4>So Bart's touch on him. But here's the problem, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's with all these you know, number one wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 4>If you say, okay, we got to make them happy,

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterback shop is to get it to the open receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>If you take Digs out, whether you bang them at

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<v Speaker 4>the line of scrimmage and you cloud them over the top,

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<v Speaker 4>however you want to do it, and you eliminate him

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<v Speaker 4>as a number one, and they got to go to

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<v Speaker 4>Shakiir or they got to go to Gabe Davis and

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<v Speaker 4>he's sulking. That's not that's not Josh's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Chats can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do that.

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<v Speaker 4>So like you hope that that happens. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they made all this effort to get the ball to

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<v Speaker 4>DeVante to start the game, which is fine. He's catching

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<v Speaker 4>balls for four yards, big deal. He got his catches.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't hurting him. Then he's not beating them over

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<v Speaker 4>the top. You know, Diggs hurts you when he beats

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<v Speaker 4>you over the top or he catches you know, one

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<v Speaker 4>of these dig routes and you know, and he and

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<v Speaker 4>he goes along ways, he catches it on the run.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we throw some roses to the Jets entire defense

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<v Speaker 1>as far as what they're doing coverage wise, because you

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<v Speaker 1>guys did a beautiful job Jets game Dave Robert Salad,

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<v Speaker 1>CBS seven thirty or YouTube New York Jets dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You check that out. As far as just looking what

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing in his own coverage, you think the

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<v Speaker 1>communication has been tremendous.

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<v Speaker 3>Right communication is seeing the route the same. But because

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times you have to have non verbal

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<v Speaker 3>communication when you consider, you know, sometimes you can't hear

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<v Speaker 3>and you're talking about the left corner, you know, understanding

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<v Speaker 3>seeing what the right corner is doing and being on

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<v Speaker 3>a string, and they're on the string right now. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to go back what you were saying before,

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<v Speaker 3>how I would defend Diggs if he's on the outside,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine. But if they hie him in the slide

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<v Speaker 3>against Mike Carter, even though I love Michael Carter, the

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<v Speaker 3>double will be on, and the double will be on

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<v Speaker 3>either by the backside safety. The backside safety will have

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity that if he runs in those dig routes,

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<v Speaker 3>that you come down what we call radar. You come

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<v Speaker 3>down and you take it, because a quarterback will never

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<v Speaker 3>see it because he's reading left to right. He'll never

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<v Speaker 3>see the right safety if he's running a dick coming

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<v Speaker 3>down from here and and it's going to look like

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Carter's beat because he's going to have to stay

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<v Speaker 3>on the backside of him. In case he ever runs

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<v Speaker 3>at yoyo rout and comes back, he's always in good

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<v Speaker 3>position knowing that front side he has your front side

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<v Speaker 3>safety coming down. If he's on the outside, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I got tremendous belief that Reed and Sauce can get

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<v Speaker 3>her done. But if he's in a slot, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to double him because he's in a slot for a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>So when he goes in the slot, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>double him because I got a great belief that.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball is going to go to him and now

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<v Speaker 2>I can put to him. Tip balls change games.

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<v Speaker 4>So Stefan Diggs is a router. So if he's on

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<v Speaker 4>the outside against you know, Sauce or DJ like, he's

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<v Speaker 4>a great route runner, but routes take time. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you can disrupt the timing by just getting moving, Josh

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<v Speaker 4>or getting a hand on or anything that takes his

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<v Speaker 4>eyes off for a second. Diggs who's working his double,

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<v Speaker 4>move his stuttering, go whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Like.

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<v Speaker 4>He's excellent at changing directions and changing speeds. But the

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<v Speaker 4>way that you counter that is as.

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<v Speaker 1>You rush, massive game for both teams. A great job

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for taking some time out to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to us about the Jets. What's ahead for the

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<v Speaker 1>Green and White. First off, what's your takeaway and the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets season to date?

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<v Speaker 7>My big takeaway is, obviously it's a challenge because you

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<v Speaker 7>have Aaron Rodgers signed up. Obviously, the injury happens right away.

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<v Speaker 7>I really had high hopes for the team. I still do,

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 7>you know, I had picked him to go to the

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<v Speaker 7>super Bowl with with with with Aaron on the on

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 7>the roster healthy, but that all changed. I think the

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<v Speaker 7>big thing that I think it's obvious to some people,

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<v Speaker 7>but the team is built for Aaron. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 7>built with the coordinator that Aaron brings in, Nathaniel Hackett,

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<v Speaker 7>who's a good coaching zone, right, But that that relationship

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 7>was important. A lot of the concepts out of the

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<v Speaker 7>gate or designed more for Aaron, and and when you

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<v Speaker 7>have to make that change, it is a big adjustment.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think I've seen some exciting moments from this

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 7>team where they figure out how to win games. You know,

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 7>Zach's figured out at times how to string together you know,

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<v Speaker 7>these improbable heroic drives. I think the team at different points,

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<v Speaker 7>like you could tell the Buffalo game. You talk to

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 7>Jets fans, they're like, Oh, in the past, we don't

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 7>have that big play on special teams. You know, we

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 7>go to overtime and maybe something goes wrong and so

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 7>you can send us a little bit of magic. But

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<v Speaker 7>now they're kind of getting tested a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think got defense just got to hang in there.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I've been on defenses where the offense is

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<v Speaker 7>trying to work things out.

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<v Speaker 5>It can be stressful for the entire group.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think Salah is a great leader, and I

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 7>think they got veterans in that locker room that'll keep

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<v Speaker 7>them together through this rough stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of rough stretches, your podcast, the green Light Podcast,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>talks about what the Buffalo Bills are going through right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about what's on the horizon for

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<v Speaker 1>both of these teams who are looking to halt a

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>two game losing streak against each other there which, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are looking at this game. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>is it's an elimination game or a bit don't survival.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a back against the wall game. For sure

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<v Speaker 7>for both teams. You know, I think for the Bills

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<v Speaker 7>with the expectations they had, I think once Aaron got hurt,

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<v Speaker 7>people looked at the Jets as you know, like this

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 7>could be a great story. You know, these guys having

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 7>an opportunity to do something nobody believes in them doing.

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 7>And I still think those things are out there for them.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 7>But for the Bills, with Super Bowl aspirations, with that

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<v Speaker 7>quarterback under center, this is supposed to be a big

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<v Speaker 7>year for them. And I think the Miami game going

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<v Speaker 7>up winning forty eight twenty at their place, You're thinking

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<v Speaker 7>this is like I remember, for two weeks we're like

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<v Speaker 7>this is a super Bowl favorite. But that's the ebb

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<v Speaker 7>and flow of the NFL season, and I think it

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<v Speaker 7>is a back against the wall game. But it's also

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 7>a game that's exciting for the Bills because you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you do have that. It sucks to lose a coordinator,

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<v Speaker 7>to fire a coordinator, nobody likes to do that. That's

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<v Speaker 7>a stressful time in a facility. But Joe Brady's seen

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<v Speaker 7>some ball. You know, that run at LSU was amazing.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I think in Carolina, I wouldn't get I

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 7>would I would grade him incomplete because the Matt rule

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 7>thing didn't really work out.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he had the same.

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<v Speaker 7>Type of weapons at his disposals. So I think for

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<v Speaker 7>Buffalo they're going to want to say, hey, we can

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<v Speaker 7>restart right here, you know. And for the Jets, every

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 7>week is back against the wall implicitly when you are

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<v Speaker 7>rolling with the number two option at quarterback. And I

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<v Speaker 7>know it's been a long time, but every week it

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<v Speaker 7>feels like back against the wall, and that's exciting and stressful,

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<v Speaker 7>but you want to get some breathing rooms so you

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<v Speaker 7>can kind of you want to pick this one up

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 7>if you can.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's modern age of football. How unique is this

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<v Speaker 1>Jets defense in terms of what they're bringing at you

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<v Speaker 1>at all three levels?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I just I think when you have young corner corners,

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<v Speaker 7>like you know, it gets a lot of attention.

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<v Speaker 5>He should.

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<v Speaker 7>That guy's awesome, But there's other guys back there who

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<v Speaker 7>can really play. And I'm a big fan of linebacking corps.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. Again, it's like.

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<v Speaker 7>Last year, we're paying a lot of attention to Williams upfront,

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<v Speaker 7>but then he's got a brother that can really play.

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<v Speaker 7>And sometimes I can't take my eyes off off him,

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<v Speaker 7>and I can't take my eyes off the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I could name them all.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 7>But I don't want to give anybody more credit than

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 7>the others because I've been on groups like this where

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 7>you just roll bodies like Bryce Huff for instance, not

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 7>a guy that gets a lot of credit, one of

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 7>my favorite players in the league to watch. You talk

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 7>about his pressure percentage, things that go un noticed sometimes

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 7>by fans, win rate. That stuff's legit, you know, it's

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 7>he should be proud of those those metrics because this

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 7>guy doesn't get a lot of attention, but he's one

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 7>of my favorite rushers in the league. Talk about John

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 7>franklin Iris versatility, Germaine's coming on. They just have guys

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 7>that come at you in waves, and I think that's

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 7>that's a familiar feeling for me being in a group

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 7>like that, so it's exciting to watch. But they have

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 7>playmakers at every level of defense, and like I said,

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 7>they do a lot in some disadvantageous situations, which I think,

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 7>like sometimes when you're weighing the best defenses in ball,

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 7>look at how good the complimentary football is for say

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 7>the Ravens most weeks. If they're not turning the ball

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 7>over or the Chiefs most weeks, some of these defenses

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 7>that get talked talked about in that light. The Jets

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 7>are often in situations that you don't want to be in,

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 7>and they make other quarterbacks look bad despite it, and

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 7>they keep the points down despite it. So I really

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 7>just respect the group and I love that they have

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 7>playmakers at every level of defense.

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 5>Something you get.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>You did this at such a high level. You want

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple of rings. You mentioned you said he's one

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>of your favorite guys in the entire league to watch.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Is a guy who played on the outside. What do

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you like most about his game?

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 7>He's unique, you know, his his leverage is incredible, Like

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 7>when he runs the hoop, he can get on under

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 7>somebody's arm and he's run that tight hoop. He's got

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 7>that really good low center of gravity and the ability

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 7>to turn his hips quickly and win at the top.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 7>So I also think he's just got a good feel,

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 7>Like the guy's got a lot of tools in his toolbox.

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 7>I like seeing rushers that can you know that kind

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 7>of they don't guess. You know, he's feeling the down,

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, as he goes and and I know that

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 7>he probably saves up a home runner too, and he's

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 7>pre premeditated a move or two. But I just feel

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 7>like he's the type of guy that comes out there

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 7>and lets it rip and has a bunch of tools

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.719
<v Speaker 7>and toolbox and understands leverage and timing and power. You know,

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 7>like he's just fun to watch that way where he's

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 7>not prototypically gifted, but he's gifted in a really you know,

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 7>under the radar way that some fan might not pick

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 7>up on.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 5>I just love watching him play. Wins a lot of rushes.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 7>You don't see him just getting blocked, and that's one

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 7>of my favor things. Guys who are active, guys who

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 7>who have high batting percentages.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 5>So to speak out there on the.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Edge, what do you think about Jermaine in the way

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>he's taken advantage of those opportunities here in year two.

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>And also when you watch him, we know he's not

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a finished product. Jermaine Johnson a former first round pick.

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But what's next for him?

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 7>I think what's next for him is just continued growth

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 7>and you know, steady that build of confidence. You know,

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 7>I think it's a challenge to be a first round pick,

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 7>but it's also a challenge to be a first round

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 7>pick and walk into a defense that's got a bunch

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 7>of guys that are going to eat and you know,

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 7>there's there's a positive to it, which I'm sure he

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 7>sounds like great guy, you know, talking to Joe Douglas

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 7>and all that stuff, where he's not selfish and you know,

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 7>but the but the the pressure on you is pick

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 7>to produce in a room where there's only so many

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 7>buckets to go around is tough because people might look

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 7>up and say, hey, you're not a ten sad guy.

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, there's a lot of mouths to feed in that

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 5>D line room.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 7>And I think he's done a good job of progressing

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 7>as his career has gone on. But also like he

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 7>started to, I think feel a knack for when to

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 7>make a big play. You know, It's just that's a

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 7>thing that comes with confidence and it comes with experience.

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 7>And I think he's a rep guy. You can tell

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 7>he's a worker. So the more reps he's going to get,

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 7>the more his game's going to elevate.

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm excited to watch Jfum.

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>How much do you appreciate his versatility because he can

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>beat you on the outside. They can shift him inside,

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>you can take advantage of that guard.

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 5>That's my favorite thing about him.

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 7>I don't think enough teams and I had mentioned this

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 7>early in the season, because you know, you guys are

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 7>really evenly distributed in skill, as in, hey, there's no

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 7>one guy on the outside. Although I'm a big Bryce

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 7>Health fan, but there's no like von Miller in his

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 7>prime guy that people are like, hey, we got to

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 7>pay all this attention to him. And sometimes when you

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 7>have an advantage out there or when the when the

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 7>the moment's right, and that's based on a lot of

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 7>factors in a game and in a in a situation.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 7>But like I like putting a big guy outside that

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 7>can dent the pocket, that can get that like when

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 7>when they'll put a Fletcher Cox sometimes outside in Philly,

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 7>Chris Jones is somebody who famously, uh will will go

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 7>outside and tackles are like, the hell's this?

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to deal with this.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 7>I think it's the same thing with the John Franklin

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 7>Myers when you move him around. And I like power rushers,

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 7>I like guys, but he's also got some really good

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 7>wiggle on the edge and he's got good hands. Yeah,

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 7>he's one of my favorite guys to watch as well.

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 7>They really do have a good, versatile, unselfish group.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Quinnin doesn't have the sacked numbers, but everybody inside the

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>building and anybody who watches the tape says, this guy

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>is just eruptive? Is ever? Can you talk about Quinnin

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and the challenge I guess for you guys as professionals,

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>as somebody battled in between the white lines, is that

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>those sac numbers are coming. But you know, you are

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>helping your team win because you're getting double team or

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you're getting triple team, and you're freeing guys up and

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>creating those one on ones and you will, oh, by

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the way, are still creating pressure yourself.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 7>I think it's really important for people to to realize

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 7>that that sack number is not everything. I mean, it's

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 7>definitely something that's an indicator, but a lot of times

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 7>we don't know what is indicating. I mean, you know,

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 7>some of the best games I played in I had

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, half sack or no sacks and six seven pressures,

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 7>four hits, you know, maybe causing interceptions like that's the

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 7>stuff that we pride ourselves on that maybe fans walking

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 7>into the stadium looking at the box score and say, hey,

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.399
<v Speaker 7>that guy was a tearor today, one of my least

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 7>favorite things to hear somebody say or re online or

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 7>that sort of thing is haven't heard his name called

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 7>all day long. Well, there might be a couple of reasons.

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 7>Number one, maybe he's affecting other people being able to

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 7>make plays. Maybe they're actively trying to take him out

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 7>of the ball game. Maybe the quarterbacks speeding the clock up.

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 7>Time to throw is variable every week, every matchup, and

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.720
<v Speaker 7>oftentimes it works against you when you're a good player

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 7>and you've got a good group up front. And also

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 7>maybe you're not watching close enough because most people, myself included,

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 7>when I sit down to watch a game, I'm watching

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 7>the ball and then I'll get on the replay, watch

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 7>the All twenty two and that sort of thing. Most

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 7>people aren't diving into that tape. And so I think,

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 7>if I'm honest, until I get into my All twenty

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 7>two during the week, I don't know if you just said, hey,

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 7>how did kalay Is Campbell play this week, Well, I've

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 7>watched the Arizona offense, I've watched the Atlanta defense, I've

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 7>watched the All twenty two. But then there's another layer

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 7>of going back and watching each player, and most people

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 7>aren't doing that. So I trust the people in the building,

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 7>and I also trust my eyes when I see a

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 7>guy who's still a wrecking ball out there. And so

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 7>as a player, the only thing that matters is, honestly,

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 7>the perception of your teammates. When you turn that film

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 7>on on Mondays and if you're doing your job, they're

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 7>going to see that and they appreciate it already that

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 7>guy can play. I think sometimes the production can spike

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 7>on a guy in a single year and it's not

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 7>representative of maybe where he's going to be every year.

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 7>But I think if you're paying attention to him, you know,

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 7>the difference between him last year and this year is

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:35.839
<v Speaker 7>not some astronomical thing.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 5>It's just things aren't sometimes breaking right.

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 7>And you know, sack is the funniest damn stat in

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 7>football because it's so dependent on everything else.

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 2>CJ.

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Moseley, he just reached a thousand tackles. Talk about something

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that flies under the radar. He hit fourteen tackles against

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders. That's the sixth time in his career he's

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>reached that number. But he doesn't seem to have any

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>drop off. When you're talking about a linebacker in his

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>early thirties, how much do you appreciate what he still

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is at this point in his career.

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I really appreciate, because I know how hard

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 7>it is to be thirty in the NFL and play

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 7>that physical. He's playing really physical, making a ton of

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 7>stops tackles every week.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 5>He's done that his whole career. Also, the pressure of.

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 7>Being a guy that you know, you guys are asking

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 7>a lot of I think, you know, from a financial standpoint,

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 7>he's been rewarded up there, and with that comes pressure,

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 7>and you know, I think he's dealt with the pressure nicely.

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.399
<v Speaker 7>And he seems to be a guy that teammates love.

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 7>He seems to be a guy that just busts his

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 7>butt every day. And anytime you watch the football, it's

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 7>him and Williams around the ball. I mean, it's it's

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 7>it's high energy.

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 5>It's like.

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 7>These guys for teams that have these offensive lulls where

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 7>the offense isn't playing great and the mood might get

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 7>down on the sideline, it's like another three and out

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 7>are a pick. And by the way, I think the

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 7>offense is doing a nice job picking up Zach. I've

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 7>seen a lot of indications that those guys are even

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 7>in his worst moments, Like I have a picture of

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 7>Lazard coming over to console him after he fumbled that ball.

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 7>It's a mistake you don't want to make, but you

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 7>can see that nobody wants to make that mistake.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 5>Zach doesn't want to make that mistake.

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 7>The move can still get down sometimes, and I think

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 7>having defensive players that are not only great players, but

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 7>high energy. They're like tone setters, you know, celebrate big

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 7>plays no matter what the score is, no matter how

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 7>the game's going, hype each other up, finish on the football.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 7>That's kind of what I see when I watch suggests

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 7>defense on the second level.

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 1>So I know this is something you're gonna appreciate. Sala

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>always talks about the back end and the front end

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>being connected, and that quarterback, if he has to hitch

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>one more time, that's going to give us an opportunity

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to get there up front. With that being said, those

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 1>three cornerbacks when you're throwing out Sauce Gardner, DJ Reid

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Michael Carter the second at the nickel spot,

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 1>how much do they complete this unit.

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 7>Well, it's big because you know, like I said earlier,

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 7>everybody's talking about saw Us, nobody talks about Reid.

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 5>Really.

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 7>You know, having those guys on the back end and

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 7>having a nickel who can play at a high level

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 7>is a huge It's almost a necessity.

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:28.760
<v Speaker 5>It's not a luxury anymore.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 7>Like if you want to go anywhere, you've got to

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 7>have a ton of cover guys back there. I'll give

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 7>you an example, like San Francisco when they struggle with

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.319
<v Speaker 7>Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:38.760
<v Speaker 5>You can kind of see that coming.

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 7>Now they've made some changes in the back end at

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 7>San Francisco working I think it was Ambry Thomas in

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 7>a little bit more and you put Leonora inside like

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 7>so shuffling a pieces. But when you play Cincinnati and

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 7>Higgins is healthy, you got three really great receivers or

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 7>good receivers right that you're going to have to contend with.

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 7>If you don't have that third guy that can cover,

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 7>you're in trouble in today's NFL because when you see

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 7>the best teams, they have three options, most of them

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 7>that they can. Now Kansas City is different this year,

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 7>and that sort of thing.

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 5>But year in and year out.

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 7>If you want to go somewhere, you got to have

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 7>at least three guys back there that can cover at

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 7>a high level, and especially the nickel position because the

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 7>game's changed where that's a necessity, as I said, and

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 7>not a luxury. So for lineman, I'd love to play

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 7>for the Jets, you know, like the fractions of time.

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 5>That's what we used to talk about. You alluded to it, the.

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 7>Difference between Quinn and Williams being the thing everybody talks

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 7>about on a Monday morning versus the you know, hey,

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 7>I didn't hear his name. Is one more pat you

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 7>know where it's schematically playing more aggressively on the back end,

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 7>or it's a re route. It's all this little stuff

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 7>that goes into team defense. And so I think having

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 7>that back ends like a defensive line's best friend.

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, offensively, what do you think is next for the

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Jets to play in a Bills unit that's been Deine

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>made it by injuries here, but the Jets we know

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>about their offensive struggles as far as getting the ball

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>in the end zone. I think it's eight offensive touchdowns

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>in nine games. With that being said, Chris, there are

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of encouraging aspects of that game against the Raiders.

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But this team just has to find a way to

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>finish they do.

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 7>They have to find a way to finish drives, man,

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 7>And that's the hard thing when you're not really that explosive.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Garrett's awesome.

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 7>They found a way to get him some chunk plays

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 7>at times and only had a couple of the other night.

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 5>But like you know, the longer driver, Zach has to

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 5>be patient.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's the same thing we're talking about with

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 7>with with Josh. You know, it's like, hey, just extend

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 7>the length of these drives. Eventually these guys might get impatient.

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 7>That's that's what made Zac great at Byu, is his

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 7>aggressiveness and all that stuff. But I think it's the

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 7>staying on the details throughout the course of the entire drive,

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 7>whether it's a choice route, which way am I going?

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 7>Where am I supposed to sit down here? Because sometimes

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 7>it's on the receivers, not the quarterback. And for Zach

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 7>it's like, do I need to drop the arm angle here?

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 7>You know, maybe I just need to stick to my

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 7>fundamentals in this situation. But I think more Nathan, you

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 7>play in Buffalo. You have not played Buffalo since they

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 7>look this way defensively, and I mean, like Ken Dorris

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 7>is getting a lot of attention right now. The Bills offense,

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.919
<v Speaker 7>what's going on with that? But the defense, although they've

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 7>hung in there, they're down some guys. I mean Matt Mlano,

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.959
<v Speaker 7>one of my favorite players in the league. That guy

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 7>is a nightmare. And when you talk about having your

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 7>best player in the backfield, there one of them in

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 7>Bresse Hall. You know the second level of defense is

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.479
<v Speaker 7>going to look different than it used to. I mean

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 7>the first time you played the Bills, they're down a

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 7>stud up front inside. So can the run game get going?

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 7>I think it's just all about patience with these guys

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 7>and then cashing in when you get in the red zone,

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 7>when you get in plus territory, taking care of the

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 7>football because teams are going to naturally make you drive

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.879
<v Speaker 7>the football and expect Zach to make a mistake, and

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 7>I think that's on him to just eliminate that stuff

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 7>and lean into getting your best players of the ball

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 7>as easily as you can. Easy touches for these guys.

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 7>That's the best thing you got going for you, right

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 7>Those two guys. I mentioned Garrett Wilson, Breis Hall, Studs

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 7>offensive line banged up a little bit, not playing so well.

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 7>Get these guys the ball quickly in space, Nathaniel Hacketts

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 7>got to find a way to do that.

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>You started out here talking about Aaron Rodgers. You've competed

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>against him. What do you make about the way he's

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>attacked his recovery, and also what are your expectations for him?

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily twenty twenty three, but whenever he returns to

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the field.

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 7>I think he's still going to be really good when

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 7>he comes back. I mean, it's the reason I believed

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 7>in the Jets this year, still do because that defense.

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 7>But I just thought Aaron might be the icing on

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 7>the cake that could get you guys to the next level.

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 7>Obviously you probably have to wait till next year for that.

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, he might be superhuman. I don't know

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 7>he come back. I mean, it hats off, but I

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 7>just you know, especially the way it's kind of been

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 7>behind under center, you know, from a protection standpoint and

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.399
<v Speaker 7>that sort of thing, like if he's gonna come back

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 7>this year, it'd be a miracle first off, and then

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 7>on top of that, you'd have to go really navigate

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 7>the pocket well with whatever you're dealing with. So I

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.439
<v Speaker 7>just think it's one of those things, whether it's Zach

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 7>or whether at some point you're mixing somebody else in,

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 7>you got to ride with what you got and you

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 7>got to think about next year. But he can't creep

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 7>into people's heads.

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:36.879
<v Speaker 7>It's like, that's gonna be awesome when he does come back.

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 7>But right now, we got to win with this group,

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 7>you know, and those two things could be true. You

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 7>can make a run with this group, and then when

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 7>Aaron walks back in the door man in, it's go time,

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 7>because I think he's still got it. A lot of

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 7>people are down on his play at the end of

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 7>the road there in Green Bay. But I see the

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 7>ball come off his hands. I mean it looks a

0:47:56.480 --> 0:48:00.040
<v Speaker 7>lot different than I watched every game every Sunday. I

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 7>don't see the ball coming off a lot of guy's

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 7>hands like I like, even with Aaron, and even at

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 7>the end of his running Green Bay. So I'm excited

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 7>to see him get back if that's if that's what

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 7>he's going to do, whether it's uh, you know, Super

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 7>Bowl or next year.

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to speak to you quickly about Joe Douglas.

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>He's the guy that you have a relationship with personally

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>from a professional perspective, what do you think about the

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 1>way he's attacked this roster, and also give us some

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>insight what it was like for you as a player

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 1>working with Joe behind the scenes.

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 7>Well, first off, I owed Joe a whole lot.

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 5>I absolutely love the dude.

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:46.479
<v Speaker 7>He when I was done in New England and I,

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, like, I decided I want to walk and

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 7>be a free agent, which most people when you walk

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 7>out of New England, they're like, something's wrong with you?

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 5>And no, I wasn't that.

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 7>I just wanted to play finish my career in a

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 7>system that was more suited to do what I was doing.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 7>Because I was trying to come back from two years

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 7>of ir getting cut in Saint Louis. You know, I

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 7>wanted to I wanted to finish my my career looking

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 7>like me at some point.

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 5>You know, that was just an uphill battle for a

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 5>couple of years.

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 7>And and to come off of New England, I'm playing

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 7>in a three technique, I'm playing right end up there.

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 5>It just was awkward.

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.359
<v Speaker 7>I wasn't proud of that tape as as much as

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 7>honestly I was with my Philly tape and and I

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 7>and I and I really appreciate Joe for giving me

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:35.800
<v Speaker 7>the opportunity to put that on tape, you know, and Howie.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 5>Howie and I talked and stuff, But it.

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 7>Was Joe that that like kind of cleared that deal.

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 7>Because Ian Cunningham was in Chicago right now, was one

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 7>of my teammates in college.

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 5>He's up there with Bryan Poles.

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 7>But I called Ian actually and I was like, hey,

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.959
<v Speaker 7>you guys, think you'd have room for like an older guy,

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 7>And he was like, let me running up the flagpole

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 7>with Joe. And Joe was like, hell yeah, that'd be awesome,

0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 7>and they made it happen. So I really appreciate Joe.

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 7>It's not for Joe. My life's totally different right now.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 7>And I think, you know, when it comes to how

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 7>he operates in the building, he's not one of those

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 7>guys that when you see him walking down the hall,

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.760
<v Speaker 7>you're like, oh, Joe's here, you know, the GM's here,

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 7>or the guy from upstairs is here. Like he's a

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 7>football player, you know, he played ball. He could still

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 7>probably play ball. I see him I see him out there.

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 7>I mean he looks like he could. He could probably

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 7>pancake me, you know, get up on the second level

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 7>and get the safety Joseph Beast, so we identify with him.

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 7>He treats us like, you know, we're equals. You know,

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 7>it's a tough business. He's got to cut guys. He

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 7>used to be the grim Reaper in Baltimore when they

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 7>first had hard knocks back. There was guy's playbooks before

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 7>they were coming to get iPads. But Joe is like

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 7>he does it with grace. I mean, he really is

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 7>a class act and cares about all the players that

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 7>he drafts, that he acquires and the ones that he

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 7>has to cut and trade. And I think that's why

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 7>guys love Joe, and I obviously likes the big guys,

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:09.759
<v Speaker 7>likes the lineman. I think the Philly year, he had

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 7>a lot to do with that, bringing in Lagarrett, him

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 7>and Howie working Magic, Legarrett, Patrick Robinson. I think he

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 7>values Vets, you know myself, Tory Smith and investing in

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 7>that D line because that literally was how we won

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 7>that Super Bowl. Well, the offense is pretty darn good.

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 7>It's not like we did. We held Tom Brady down

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 7>it was forty one thirty three, but there were a

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 7>lot of games we won because we were deep up

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 7>front on both sides of the ball. And I think

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 7>he wants to build a team the same way, and

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 7>you can see it coming to fruition with the D line.

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 7>Now we just got to get the other side of

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:40.439
<v Speaker 7>the ball going.

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Chris, really appreciate your time today. Know you're busy

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 1>being a dad. Also the green Light podcast. I know

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you've done tremendous things with water Boys throughout the year.

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean over the years, I mean just incredible as

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>far as using your platform to help other people. So man,

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 1>keep it up because I don't know how you have

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that kind of time in your day, but you've always

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>done a great job.

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:10.439
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying, man. You know I don't sleep a lot,

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 5>so I'm up watching. I'm up watching the Cardinals at

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 5>two am last night. What am I doing? I'm addicted

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.359
<v Speaker 5>to football. You guys. Good luck the rest of the way.