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Speaker 1: This weekend kind of feels like a desperation game or

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Speaker 1: an elimination game in terms of the postseason.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the field is wide open now.

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Speaker 3: Even the Raiders have to feel like they have life

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Speaker 3: and opportunity to actually, you know, make a run for

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Speaker 3: one of these last spots in a wildcard. So with

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Speaker 3: that being said, nobody's going to down. Everybody believes they

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Speaker 3: have a real chance, and you have to start winning.

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Speaker 3: November December is when you make the dash for the cash.

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Speaker 3: Is when the crane rides to the top. And a

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Speaker 3: lot of these teams that are fighting are going to

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Speaker 3: start playing each other and it's going to be who

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Speaker 1: Both these teams are scuffling when you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the Jets right now, especially on the offensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. For the Jets. Where you look

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Speaker 1: at the Bills, I mean, they're dealing with a lot

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Speaker 1: of things on all three levels, but they made a

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Speaker 1: change at the offensive coordinator position. No more can dor

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Speaker 4: You know, winning cures everything. There's nothing like winning, so

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Speaker 4: all the noise goes away as soon as you win

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Speaker 4: a game. If you win two games, it's like you

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Speaker 4: never heard it. And it's just the seasons, the season

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Speaker 4: every year, the teams that were good at the beginning,

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Speaker 4: like Denver was bad in the beginning, horrible, right, Minnesota

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Speaker 4: was bad at the beginning. Look at these teams right now.

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Speaker 4: They're all a sending so you never know when it's

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Speaker 4: going to turn and what turns it. It could be

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Speaker 4: a moment, but things can turn and so you always

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Speaker 4: have to stay positive. There's always opportunities to win these games.

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Speaker 4: It was last week against the Raiders. There's opportunities to win.

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Speaker 4: You get the ball at the two yard line, you

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Speaker 4: gotta score. Like it's just that simple. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: who the coordinator is, who the offensive line is, the

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Speaker 4: balls at the two yard line, you gotta score a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: And so teams are struggling when you can't do that,

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Speaker 4: it over. Somebody's got to be the fall guy. That's

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Speaker 4: what Sean McDermott did. He's like, we can't allow this

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Speaker 4: to go any further, so we're gonna make this drastic change.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna elevate this guy and we'll see, we'll see,

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Speaker 4: like they got their fingers crossed, if the mistakes can

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Speaker 1: Right now, this is a nightmare matchup for the Bills

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Speaker 1: because the Jets have always matched up well with them

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Speaker 1: from a defensive angle, and now you got a sputtering

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the crazy thing is right, you know, Buff

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Speaker 2: The issue was the defense was.

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Speaker 3: Always there to bail them out and create opportunities and

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Speaker 2: You can't call your place where you were built.

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Speaker 3: Von Miller hasn't come back and been the player today

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Speaker 2: So now if you're the Jets, if you.

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Speaker 1: Right, Robert Salaz said, it's gonna be changes on the

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Speaker 1: We saw early this week the Jets released Michael Carter,

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Speaker 4: You got to put your playmakers on the field. And

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Speaker 4: we believe what we saw from Izzy in the preseason

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Speaker 4: Pitt you got to put the ball in his hands

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Speaker 4: And so I think there's gonna be opportunities. They have

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Speaker 4: But any way that you can get Breessee, is he

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Speaker 4: don't know what, they don't know like, but he's fast.

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Speaker 4: He's fast, and he knows how to finish. So I'd

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Speaker 1: He's an awesome system fit.

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Speaker 3: I love this, you know because when you think about it, listen,

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Jets, we got seventy players.

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Speaker 2: In the game.

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Speaker 3: Forty are going to be runs, and they're going to

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Speaker 3: Remember what this team, you know in the two thousand

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Speaker 3: that breaks you down, right, you're talking about it. You're

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Speaker 3: much like when we brought Sean Green when remember Thomas

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Speaker 3: He's a one guy penetrator. He's a light player. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Linvil Joseph, he can't play fifty snaps.

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Speaker 3: You get a guy like Lynnville Joseph and you're playing

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Speaker 3: The problem is the Jets never get to the line

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Speaker 3: But if you get to the line of scrimmage, oh,

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Speaker 2: And then you got defenders. I mean, listen, Peyton's doing

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Speaker 3: You got guys fat, Yeah, three hundred and twenty pounds

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Speaker 3: if that drive goes eight plays, guys of thigves are burning.

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Speaker 2: What kind of pass rush you think you got?

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Speaker 3: If you sitting there, you see guys they've being a

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Speaker 4: I was watching Buffalo's game in the loss to Denver

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Speaker 4: and Limbo Joseph is out there. So he's the biggest

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Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of shape lin ball's in.

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Speaker 4: He's always been a big guy, but you gotta test

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Speaker 3: That whole side him and Langdon Town it just worked.

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Speaker 4: Just be a left handed team. Like, to me, that's

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Speaker 1: My point of Beck then is that nobody gave him

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Speaker 2: But you know what's crazy right? Everybody knows that.

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Speaker 3: Every time i'm here, I look out and I see

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Speaker 4: This doesn't really matter. We know that that that offense

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Speaker 3: it's not the coordinator, it's us. We're not that good.

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Speaker 3: In the realization that that window that opened three years

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Speaker 3: ago when they had that tremendous game playoff game against

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Speaker 3: Kent's City and they thought they were right there, they

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Speaker 3: have to come to the realization that we got old.

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Speaker 3: And yes, windows open and closed in this league when

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Speaker 3: you have a great franchise quarterback like Josh Allen, but

444
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Speaker 3: this version of the Buffalo Bills is closed. Gabe Davis

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Speaker 3: could be going next year. Diggs is a problem. They're

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Speaker 3: stuck with him. He could become a malcatate. He becomes

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Speaker 3: somebody that becomes a distraction. They really can't run the football.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got Dion Dawkins. You know you got

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Speaker 3: guys that are getting older. Spencer Brown is not a

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Speaker 3: good player, right.

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Speaker 4: You gotta wear him out. You gotta wear him out, right,

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Speaker 4: tackle he got to be the fish you got. You

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Speaker 4: gotta like this should be lined up wanting to go

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Speaker 4: against him every time.

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Speaker 1: In one jet who probably doesn't get enough credit because

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Speaker 1: what those young dudes have been doing is John Franklin Meyer.

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Speaker 1: John Franklin My historically has been a big issue for

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Speaker 1: Spencer Brown because he bullies them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so well, you could bully him, or you can

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Speaker 4: speed rush him. You can get your way with him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's a They like him. He's a tough guy.

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Speaker 4: He's a pretty decent run blocker, but he's a liability

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Speaker 4: in protection. And so that's really like when they lose

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Speaker 4: to Cincinnati. They lose the Cincinnati because they get beat

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Speaker 4: up front and Josh Allen is trying to play hero ball.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to do too much because he has to

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Speaker 4: in order, and that's when he's guilty making some turnovers.

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Speaker 1: It's just a fascinating matchup on so many levels. But

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Speaker 1: it's interesting that the Bills did this move prior to

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Speaker 1: playing the Jets defense as opposed to prior to playing

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Speaker 1: with the Broncles.

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Speaker 4: Well, they couldn't wait, they couldn't waste any more time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you look at their schedule, when was a

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Speaker 3: good day game to say? Okay against the Cowboys. I

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Speaker 3: think they still have the Eagles next week. Yeah, they

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Speaker 3: have the toughest schedule remaining.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a Jets fan, aren't you excited about? Okay? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the offense eight touchdowns and nine games. We know, we

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Speaker 1: know about the problems as far as the penalties, but

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Speaker 1: they moved the ball. They still got Breest Hall, It's

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Speaker 1: still got Garrett Wilson. You're gonna see more young guys.

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Speaker 1: You can see more young guys.

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Speaker 2: Juice. They need juice.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what the shake cups going to

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Speaker 3: be because they need more juice.

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Speaker 1: So what do you anticipate? So we talked about Izzie

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, let's out and here before Friss.

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Speaker 2: Can I see Bromley?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Alan, if you're not healthy, we gotta

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Speaker 3: sit you down, and we gotta get somebody else's opportunity.

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Speaker 3: They need somebody to step up opposite Garrett Wilson. You

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Speaker 3: can't because if I'm playing the Jets, I'm saying, listen,

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Speaker 3: load the box, double Garrett Wilson, single up, Alan Lazard.

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Speaker 3: I got a extra man in the box. I should

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Speaker 3: better dominate. Somebody has to make somebody pay the same way.

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Speaker 3: DJ Reed had to say, not on my watch, because

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Speaker 3: people are going away from Salt. We need somebody opposite. Say, oh,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna disrespect me and man block me with your

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Speaker 3: second best corner, or in the slot, you're gonna put

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Speaker 3: your third best corner on me. You think I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna win because you're you're putting extra resources to stop

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Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson and the extra guy to stop Breeze Hall.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna make you pay. Play me honest.

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Speaker 2: So I lied.

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Speaker 1: I got one more for you. Ball things got his.

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Speaker 1: He got his numbers in week one because they moved

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Speaker 1: him around because they knew, okay, playing the Jazz, they

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Speaker 1: don't travel. Yeah, so we got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we move him around. He got his what's the counter

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Speaker 1: this week? On both sides because you know, Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: going to try to keep Digs engaged because if they

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Speaker 1: don't get gone.

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Speaker 4: So Bart's touch on him. But here's the problem, and

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Speaker 4: it's with all these you know, number one wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: If you say, okay, we got to make them happy,

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Speaker 4: the quarterback shop is to get it to the open receiver.

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Speaker 4: If you take Digs out, whether you bang them at

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and you cloud them over the top,

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Speaker 4: however you want to do it, and you eliminate him

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Speaker 4: as a number one, and they got to go to

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Speaker 4: Shakiir or they got to go to Gabe Davis and

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Speaker 4: he's sulking. That's not that's not Josh's fault.

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Speaker 1: Chats can do that.

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Speaker 2: You could do that.

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Speaker 4: So like you hope that that happens. But you know,

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Speaker 4: they made all this effort to get the ball to

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Speaker 4: DeVante to start the game, which is fine. He's catching

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Speaker 4: balls for four yards, big deal. He got his catches.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't hurting him. Then he's not beating them over

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Speaker 4: the top. You know, Diggs hurts you when he beats

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Speaker 4: you over the top or he catches you know, one

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Speaker 4: of these dig routes and you know, and he and

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Speaker 4: he goes along ways, he catches it on the run.

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Speaker 1: Can we throw some roses to the Jets entire defense

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Speaker 1: as far as what they're doing coverage wise, because you

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Speaker 1: guys did a beautiful job Jets game Dave Robert Salad,

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Speaker 1: CBS seven thirty or YouTube New York Jets dot com.

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Speaker 1: You check that out. As far as just looking what

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Speaker 1: they were doing in his own coverage, you think the

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Speaker 1: communication has been tremendous.

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Speaker 3: Right communication is seeing the route the same. But because

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Speaker 3: a lot of times you have to have non verbal

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Speaker 3: communication when you consider, you know, sometimes you can't hear

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Speaker 3: and you're talking about the left corner, you know, understanding

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Speaker 3: seeing what the right corner is doing and being on

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Speaker 3: a string, and they're on the string right now. But

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Speaker 3: you know, to go back what you were saying before,

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Speaker 3: how I would defend Diggs if he's on the outside,

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Speaker 3: I'm fine. But if they hie him in the slide

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Speaker 3: against Mike Carter, even though I love Michael Carter, the

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Speaker 3: double will be on, and the double will be on

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Speaker 3: either by the backside safety. The backside safety will have

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Speaker 3: an opportunity that if he runs in those dig routes,

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Speaker 3: that you come down what we call radar. You come

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Speaker 3: down and you take it, because a quarterback will never

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Speaker 3: see it because he's reading left to right. He'll never

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Speaker 3: see the right safety if he's running a dick coming

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Speaker 3: down from here and and it's going to look like

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Speaker 3: Michael Carter's beat because he's going to have to stay

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Speaker 3: on the backside of him. In case he ever runs

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Speaker 3: at yoyo rout and comes back, he's always in good

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Speaker 3: position knowing that front side he has your front side

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Speaker 3: safety coming down. If he's on the outside, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: I got tremendous belief that Reed and Sauce can get

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Speaker 3: her done. But if he's in a slot, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to double him because he's in a slot for a reason.

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Speaker 3: So when he goes in the slot, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: double him because I got a great belief that.

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Speaker 2: The ball is going to go to him and now

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Speaker 2: I can put to him. Tip balls change games.

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Speaker 4: So Stefan Diggs is a router. So if he's on

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Speaker 4: the outside against you know, Sauce or DJ like, he's

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Speaker 4: a great route runner, but routes take time. So if

576
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Speaker 4: you can disrupt the timing by just getting moving, Josh

577
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Speaker 4: or getting a hand on or anything that takes his

578
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Speaker 4: eyes off for a second. Diggs who's working his double,

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Speaker 4: move his stuttering, go whatever it is.

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Speaker 5: Like.

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Speaker 4: He's excellent at changing directions and changing speeds. But the

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Speaker 4: way that you counter that is as.

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Speaker 1: You rush, massive game for both teams. A great job

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Speaker 1: from you, fellas, as always, see you soon.

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Speaker 1: talk to us about the Jets. What's ahead for the

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Speaker 1: Green and White. First off, what's your takeaway and the

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Speaker 7: My big takeaway is, obviously it's a challenge because you

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Speaker 7: have Aaron Rodgers signed up. Obviously, the injury happens right away.

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Speaker 7: I really had high hopes for the team. I still do,

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Speaker 7: you know, I had picked him to go to the

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Speaker 7: super Bowl with with with with Aaron on the on

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Speaker 7: big thing that I think it's obvious to some people,

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Speaker 7: but the team is built for Aaron. You know, it's

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Speaker 7: built with the coordinator that Aaron brings in, Nathaniel Hackett,

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Speaker 7: who's a good coaching zone, right, But that that relationship

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Speaker 7: was important. A lot of the concepts out of the

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Speaker 7: gate or designed more for Aaron, and and when you

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Speaker 7: have to make that change, it is a big adjustment.

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Speaker 7: But I think I've seen some exciting moments from this

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Speaker 7: team where they figure out how to win games. You know,

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Speaker 7: Zach's figured out at times how to string together you know,

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Speaker 7: these improbable heroic drives. I think the team at different points,

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Speaker 7: like you could tell the Buffalo game. You talk to

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Speaker 7: Jets fans, they're like, Oh, in the past, we don't

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Speaker 7: have that big play on special teams. You know, we

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Speaker 7: go to overtime and maybe something goes wrong and so

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Speaker 7: you can send us a little bit of magic. But

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Speaker 7: now they're kind of getting tested a little bit, and

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Speaker 7: I think got defense just got to hang in there.

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Speaker 7: You know, I've been on defenses where the offense is

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Speaker 7: trying to work things out.

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Speaker 5: It can be stressful for the entire group.

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Speaker 7: But I think Salah is a great leader, and I

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Speaker 7: think they got veterans in that locker room that'll keep

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Speaker 7: them together through this rough stretch.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of rough stretches, your podcast, the green Light Podcast,

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Speaker 1: What do you think about what's on the horizon for

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Speaker 1: both of these teams who are looking to halt a

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Speaker 1: two game losing streak against each other there which, frankly,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are looking at this game. Chris

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Speaker 1: is it's an elimination game or a bit don't survival.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a back against the wall game. For sure

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Speaker 7: for both teams. You know, I think for the Bills

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Speaker 7: with the expectations they had, I think once Aaron got hurt,

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Speaker 7: people looked at the Jets as you know, like this

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Speaker 7: could be a great story. You know, these guys having

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Speaker 7: an opportunity to do something nobody believes in them doing.

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Speaker 7: And I still think those things are out there for them.

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Speaker 7: But for the Bills, with Super Bowl aspirations, with that

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Speaker 7: quarterback under center, this is supposed to be a big

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Speaker 7: year for them. And I think the Miami game going

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Speaker 7: up winning forty eight twenty at their place, You're thinking

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Speaker 7: this is like I remember, for two weeks we're like

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Speaker 7: this is a super Bowl favorite. But that's the ebb

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Speaker 7: and flow of the NFL season, and I think it

655
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 7: is a back against the wall game. But it's also

656
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 7: a game that's exciting for the Bills because you know,

657
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 7: you do have that. It sucks to lose a coordinator,

658
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 7: to fire a coordinator, nobody likes to do that. That's

659
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 7: a stressful time in a facility. But Joe Brady's seen

660
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 7: some ball. You know, that run at LSU was amazing.

661
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 7: And then I think in Carolina, I wouldn't get I

662
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 7: would I would grade him incomplete because the Matt rule

663
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 7: thing didn't really work out.

664
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: I don't think he had the same.

665
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 7: Type of weapons at his disposals. So I think for

666
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 7: Buffalo they're going to want to say, hey, we can

667
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 7: restart right here, you know. And for the Jets, every

668
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 7: week is back against the wall implicitly when you are

669
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 7: rolling with the number two option at quarterback. And I

670
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 7: know it's been a long time, but every week it

671
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 7: feels like back against the wall, and that's exciting and stressful,

672
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 7: but you want to get some breathing rooms so you

673
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 7: can kind of you want to pick this one up

674
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 7: if you can.

675
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: In today's modern age of football. How unique is this

676
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Jets defense in terms of what they're bringing at you

677
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: at all three levels?

678
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I think when you have young corner corners,

679
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 7: like you know, it gets a lot of attention.

680
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: He should.

681
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 7: That guy's awesome, But there's other guys back there who

682
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 7: can really play. And I'm a big fan of linebacking corps.

683
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 5: You know. Again, it's like.

684
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 7: Last year, we're paying a lot of attention to Williams upfront,

685
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 7: but then he's got a brother that can really play.

686
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 7: And sometimes I can't take my eyes off off him,

687
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 7: and I can't take my eyes off the defensive line.

688
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 5: Like I could name them all.

689
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 7: But I don't want to give anybody more credit than

690
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: the others because I've been on groups like this where

691
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 7: you just roll bodies like Bryce Huff for instance, not

692
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 7: a guy that gets a lot of credit, one of

693
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 7: my favorite players in the league to watch. You talk

694
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 7: about his pressure percentage, things that go un noticed sometimes

695
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 7: by fans, win rate. That stuff's legit, you know, it's

696
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 7: he should be proud of those those metrics because this

697
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 7: guy doesn't get a lot of attention, but he's one

698
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 7: of my favorite rushers in the league. Talk about John

699
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 7: franklin Iris versatility, Germaine's coming on. They just have guys

700
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 7: that come at you in waves, and I think that's

701
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 7: that's a familiar feeling for me being in a group

702
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 7: like that, so it's exciting to watch. But they have

703
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 7: playmakers at every level of defense, and like I said,

704
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 7: they do a lot in some disadvantageous situations, which I think,

705
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 7: like sometimes when you're weighing the best defenses in ball,

706
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 7: look at how good the complimentary football is for say

707
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 7: the Ravens most weeks. If they're not turning the ball

708
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 7: over or the Chiefs most weeks, some of these defenses

709
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 7: that get talked talked about in that light. The Jets

710
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 7: are often in situations that you don't want to be in,

711
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 7: and they make other quarterbacks look bad despite it, and

712
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 7: they keep the points down despite it. So I really

713
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 7: just respect the group and I love that they have

714
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 7: playmakers at every level of defense.

715
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 5: Something you get.

716
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: You did this at such a high level. You want

717
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: a couple of rings. You mentioned you said he's one

718
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: of your favorite guys in the entire league to watch.

719
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Is a guy who played on the outside. What do

720
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: you like most about his game?

721
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 7: He's unique, you know, his his leverage is incredible, Like

722
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 7: when he runs the hoop, he can get on under

723
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 7: somebody's arm and he's run that tight hoop. He's got

724
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 7: that really good low center of gravity and the ability

725
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 7: to turn his hips quickly and win at the top.

726
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 7: So I also think he's just got a good feel,

727
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 7: Like the guy's got a lot of tools in his toolbox.

728
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 7: I like seeing rushers that can you know that kind

729
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: of they don't guess. You know, he's feeling the down,

730
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 7: you know, as he goes and and I know that

731
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 7: he probably saves up a home runner too, and he's

732
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 7: pre premeditated a move or two. But I just feel

733
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 7: like he's the type of guy that comes out there

734
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 7: and lets it rip and has a bunch of tools

735
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 7: and toolbox and understands leverage and timing and power. You know,

736
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 7: like he's just fun to watch that way where he's

737
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 7: not prototypically gifted, but he's gifted in a really you know,

738
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 7: under the radar way that some fan might not pick

739
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 7: up on.

740
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: I just love watching him play. Wins a lot of rushes.

741
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 7: You don't see him just getting blocked, and that's one

742
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 7: of my favor things. Guys who are active, guys who

743
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 7: who have high batting percentages.

744
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 5: So to speak out there on the.

745
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Edge, what do you think about Jermaine in the way

746
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: he's taken advantage of those opportunities here in year two.

747
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: And also when you watch him, we know he's not

748
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: a finished product. Jermaine Johnson a former first round pick.

749
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: But what's next for him?

750
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 7: I think what's next for him is just continued growth

751
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 7: and you know, steady that build of confidence. You know,

752
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 7: I think it's a challenge to be a first round pick,

753
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 7: but it's also a challenge to be a first round

754
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 7: pick and walk into a defense that's got a bunch

755
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 7: of guys that are going to eat and you know,

756
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 7: there's there's a positive to it, which I'm sure he

757
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 7: sounds like great guy, you know, talking to Joe Douglas

758
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 7: and all that stuff, where he's not selfish and you know,

759
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 7: but the but the the pressure on you is pick

760
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 7: to produce in a room where there's only so many

761
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 7: buckets to go around is tough because people might look

762
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 7: up and say, hey, you're not a ten sad guy.

763
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of mouths to feed in that

764
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 5: D line room.

765
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 7: And I think he's done a good job of progressing

766
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 7: as his career has gone on. But also like he

767
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 7: started to, I think feel a knack for when to

768
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 7: make a big play. You know, It's just that's a

769
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 7: thing that comes with confidence and it comes with experience.

770
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 7: And I think he's a rep guy. You can tell

771
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 7: he's a worker. So the more reps he's going to get,

772
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 7: the more his game's going to elevate.

773
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 5: I'm excited to watch Jfum.

774
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: How much do you appreciate his versatility because he can

775
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: beat you on the outside. They can shift him inside,

776
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of that guard.

777
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 5: That's my favorite thing about him.

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 7: I don't think enough teams and I had mentioned this

779
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 7: early in the season, because you know, you guys are

780
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 7: really evenly distributed in skill, as in, hey, there's no

781
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 7: one guy on the outside. Although I'm a big Bryce

782
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 7: Health fan, but there's no like von Miller in his

783
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 7: prime guy that people are like, hey, we got to

784
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 7: pay all this attention to him. And sometimes when you

785
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 7: have an advantage out there or when the when the

786
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 7: the moment's right, and that's based on a lot of

787
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 7: factors in a game and in a in a situation.

788
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 7: But like I like putting a big guy outside that

789
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 7: can dent the pocket, that can get that like when

790
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 7: when they'll put a Fletcher Cox sometimes outside in Philly,

791
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 7: Chris Jones is somebody who famously, uh will will go

792
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 7: outside and tackles are like, the hell's this?

793
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: I don't want to deal with this.

794
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 7: I think it's the same thing with the John Franklin

795
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 7: Myers when you move him around. And I like power rushers,

796
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 7: I like guys, but he's also got some really good

797
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 7: wiggle on the edge and he's got good hands. Yeah,

798
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 7: he's one of my favorite guys to watch as well.

799
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 7: They really do have a good, versatile, unselfish group.

800
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Quinnin doesn't have the sacked numbers, but everybody inside the

801
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: building and anybody who watches the tape says, this guy

802
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: is just eruptive? Is ever? Can you talk about Quinnin

803
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: and the challenge I guess for you guys as professionals,

804
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: as somebody battled in between the white lines, is that

805
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: those sac numbers are coming. But you know, you are

806
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: helping your team win because you're getting double team or

807
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: you're getting triple team, and you're freeing guys up and

808
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: creating those one on ones and you will, oh, by

809
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: the way, are still creating pressure yourself.

810
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 7: I think it's really important for people to to realize

811
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 7: that that sack number is not everything. I mean, it's

812
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 7: definitely something that's an indicator, but a lot of times

813
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 7: we don't know what is indicating. I mean, you know,

814
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 7: some of the best games I played in I had

815
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 7: you know, half sack or no sacks and six seven pressures,

816
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 7: four hits, you know, maybe causing interceptions like that's the

817
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 7: stuff that we pride ourselves on that maybe fans walking

818
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 7: into the stadium looking at the box score and say, hey,

819
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 7: that guy was a tearor today, one of my least

820
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 7: favorite things to hear somebody say or re online or

821
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 7: that sort of thing is haven't heard his name called

822
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 7: all day long. Well, there might be a couple of reasons.

823
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 7: Number one, maybe he's affecting other people being able to

824
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 7: make plays. Maybe they're actively trying to take him out

825
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 7: of the ball game. Maybe the quarterbacks speeding the clock up.

826
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 7: Time to throw is variable every week, every matchup, and

827
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 7: oftentimes it works against you when you're a good player

828
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 7: and you've got a good group up front. And also

829
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 7: maybe you're not watching close enough because most people, myself included,

830
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 7: when I sit down to watch a game, I'm watching

831
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 7: the ball and then I'll get on the replay, watch

832
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 7: the All twenty two and that sort of thing. Most

833
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 7: people aren't diving into that tape. And so I think,

834
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 7: if I'm honest, until I get into my All twenty

835
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 7: two during the week, I don't know if you just said, hey,

836
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 7: how did kalay Is Campbell play this week, Well, I've

837
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 7: watched the Arizona offense, I've watched the Atlanta defense, I've

838
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 7: watched the All twenty two. But then there's another layer

839
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 7: of going back and watching each player, and most people

840
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 7: aren't doing that. So I trust the people in the building,

841
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 7: and I also trust my eyes when I see a

842
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 7: guy who's still a wrecking ball out there. And so

843
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 7: as a player, the only thing that matters is, honestly,

844
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 7: the perception of your teammates. When you turn that film

845
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 7: on on Mondays and if you're doing your job, they're

846
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 7: going to see that and they appreciate it already that

847
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 7: guy can play. I think sometimes the production can spike

848
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 7: on a guy in a single year and it's not

849
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 7: representative of maybe where he's going to be every year.

850
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 7: But I think if you're paying attention to him, you know,

851
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 7: the difference between him last year and this year is

852
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 7: not some astronomical thing.

853
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: It's just things aren't sometimes breaking right.

854
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 7: And you know, sack is the funniest damn stat in

855
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 7: football because it's so dependent on everything else.

856
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: CJ.

857
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Moseley, he just reached a thousand tackles. Talk about something

858
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: that flies under the radar. He hit fourteen tackles against

859
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: the Raiders. That's the sixth time in his career he's

860
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: reached that number. But he doesn't seem to have any

861
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: drop off. When you're talking about a linebacker in his

862
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: early thirties, how much do you appreciate what he still

863
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: is at this point in his career.

864
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I really appreciate, because I know how hard

865
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 7: it is to be thirty in the NFL and play

866
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 7: that physical. He's playing really physical, making a ton of

867
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 7: stops tackles every week.

868
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: He's done that his whole career. Also, the pressure of.

869
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 7: Being a guy that you know, you guys are asking

870
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 7: a lot of I think, you know, from a financial standpoint,

871
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 7: he's been rewarded up there, and with that comes pressure,

872
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 7: and you know, I think he's dealt with the pressure nicely.

873
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 7: And he seems to be a guy that teammates love.

874
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 7: He seems to be a guy that just busts his

875
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 7: butt every day. And anytime you watch the football, it's

876
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 7: him and Williams around the ball. I mean, it's it's

877
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 7: it's high energy.

878
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: It's like.

879
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 7: These guys for teams that have these offensive lulls where

880
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 7: the offense isn't playing great and the mood might get

881
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 7: down on the sideline, it's like another three and out

882
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 7: are a pick. And by the way, I think the

883
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 7: offense is doing a nice job picking up Zach. I've

884
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 7: seen a lot of indications that those guys are even

885
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 7: in his worst moments, Like I have a picture of

886
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 7: Lazard coming over to console him after he fumbled that ball.

887
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 7: It's a mistake you don't want to make, but you

888
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 7: can see that nobody wants to make that mistake.

889
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 5: Zach doesn't want to make that mistake.

890
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 7: The move can still get down sometimes, and I think

891
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 7: having defensive players that are not only great players, but

892
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 7: high energy. They're like tone setters, you know, celebrate big

893
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 7: plays no matter what the score is, no matter how

894
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 7: the game's going, hype each other up, finish on the football.

895
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 7: That's kind of what I see when I watch suggests

896
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 7: defense on the second level.

897
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: So I know this is something you're gonna appreciate. Sala

898
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: always talks about the back end and the front end

899
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: being connected, and that quarterback, if he has to hitch

900
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: one more time, that's going to give us an opportunity

901
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: to get there up front. With that being said, those

902
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: three cornerbacks when you're throwing out Sauce Gardner, DJ Reid

903
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: and then Michael Carter the second at the nickel spot,

904
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: how much do they complete this unit.

905
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 7: Well, it's big because you know, like I said earlier,

906
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 7: everybody's talking about saw Us, nobody talks about Reid.

907
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: Really.

908
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 7: You know, having those guys on the back end and

909
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 7: having a nickel who can play at a high level

910
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 7: is a huge It's almost a necessity.

911
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 5: It's not a luxury anymore.

912
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 7: Like if you want to go anywhere, you've got to

913
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 7: have a ton of cover guys back there. I'll give

914
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 7: you an example, like San Francisco when they struggle with

915
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 7: Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago.

916
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 5: You can kind of see that coming.

917
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: Now they've made some changes in the back end at

918
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 7: San Francisco working I think it was Ambry Thomas in

919
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 7: a little bit more and you put Leonora inside like

920
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 7: so shuffling a pieces. But when you play Cincinnati and

921
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 7: Higgins is healthy, you got three really great receivers or

922
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 7: good receivers right that you're going to have to contend with.

923
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 7: If you don't have that third guy that can cover,

924
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 7: you're in trouble in today's NFL because when you see

925
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 7: the best teams, they have three options, most of them

926
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 7: that they can. Now Kansas City is different this year,

927
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 7: and that sort of thing.

928
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 5: But year in and year out.

929
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 7: If you want to go somewhere, you got to have

930
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 7: at least three guys back there that can cover at

931
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 7: a high level, and especially the nickel position because the

932
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 7: game's changed where that's a necessity, as I said, and

933
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 7: not a luxury. So for lineman, I'd love to play

934
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: for the Jets, you know, like the fractions of time.

935
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: That's what we used to talk about. You alluded to it, the.

936
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 7: Difference between Quinn and Williams being the thing everybody talks

937
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 7: about on a Monday morning versus the you know, hey,

938
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 7: I didn't hear his name. Is one more pat you

939
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 7: know where it's schematically playing more aggressively on the back end,

940
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 7: or it's a re route. It's all this little stuff

941
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 7: that goes into team defense. And so I think having

942
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 7: that back ends like a defensive line's best friend.

943
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Well, offensively, what do you think is next for the

944
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Jets to play in a Bills unit that's been Deine

945
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: made it by injuries here, but the Jets we know

946
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: about their offensive struggles as far as getting the ball

947
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: in the end zone. I think it's eight offensive touchdowns

948
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: in nine games. With that being said, Chris, there are

949
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: a lot of encouraging aspects of that game against the Raiders.

950
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: But this team just has to find a way to

951
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: finish they do.

952
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 7: They have to find a way to finish drives, man,

953
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 7: And that's the hard thing when you're not really that explosive.

954
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: I mean, Garrett's awesome.

955
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 7: They found a way to get him some chunk plays

956
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 7: at times and only had a couple of the other night.

957
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: But like you know, the longer driver, Zach has to

958
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 5: be patient.

959
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 7: You know, it's the same thing we're talking about with

960
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 7: with with Josh. You know, it's like, hey, just extend

961
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 7: the length of these drives. Eventually these guys might get impatient.

962
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: I know.

963
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 7: That's that's what made Zac great at Byu, is his

964
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 7: aggressiveness and all that stuff. But I think it's the

965
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 7: staying on the details throughout the course of the entire drive,

966
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 7: whether it's a choice route, which way am I going?

967
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 7: Where am I supposed to sit down here? Because sometimes

968
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 7: it's on the receivers, not the quarterback. And for Zach

969
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 7: it's like, do I need to drop the arm angle here?

970
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 7: You know, maybe I just need to stick to my

971
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 7: fundamentals in this situation. But I think more Nathan, you

972
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 7: play in Buffalo. You have not played Buffalo since they

973
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 7: look this way defensively, and I mean, like Ken Dorris

974
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 7: is getting a lot of attention right now. The Bills offense,

975
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 7: what's going on with that? But the defense, although they've

976
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 7: hung in there, they're down some guys. I mean Matt Mlano,

977
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 7: one of my favorite players in the league. That guy

978
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 7: is a nightmare. And when you talk about having your

979
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 7: best player in the backfield, there one of them in

980
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 7: Bresse Hall. You know the second level of defense is

981
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 7: going to look different than it used to. I mean

982
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 7: the first time you played the Bills, they're down a

983
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 7: stud up front inside. So can the run game get going?

984
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 7: I think it's just all about patience with these guys

985
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 7: and then cashing in when you get in the red zone,

986
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 7: when you get in plus territory, taking care of the

987
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 7: football because teams are going to naturally make you drive

988
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 7: the football and expect Zach to make a mistake, and

989
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 7: I think that's on him to just eliminate that stuff

990
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 7: and lean into getting your best players of the ball

991
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 7: as easily as you can. Easy touches for these guys.

992
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 7: That's the best thing you got going for you, right

993
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 7: Those two guys. I mentioned Garrett Wilson, Breis Hall, Studs

994
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 7: offensive line banged up a little bit, not playing so well.

995
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 7: Get these guys the ball quickly in space, Nathaniel Hacketts

996
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 7: got to find a way to do that.

997
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: You started out here talking about Aaron Rodgers. You've competed

998
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: against him. What do you make about the way he's

999
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: attacked his recovery, and also what are your expectations for him?

1000
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: Not necessarily twenty twenty three, but whenever he returns to

1001
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: the field.

1002
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 7: I think he's still going to be really good when

1003
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 7: he comes back. I mean, it's the reason I believed

1004
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 7: in the Jets this year, still do because that defense.

1005
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 7: But I just thought Aaron might be the icing on

1006
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 7: the cake that could get you guys to the next level.

1007
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 7: Obviously you probably have to wait till next year for that.

1008
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 7: I don't know, he might be superhuman. I don't know

1009
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 7: he come back. I mean, it hats off, but I

1010
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 7: just you know, especially the way it's kind of been

1011
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 7: behind under center, you know, from a protection standpoint and

1012
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 7: that sort of thing, like if he's gonna come back

1013
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 7: this year, it'd be a miracle first off, and then

1014
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 7: on top of that, you'd have to go really navigate

1015
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 7: the pocket well with whatever you're dealing with. So I

1016
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 7: just think it's one of those things, whether it's Zach

1017
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 7: or whether at some point you're mixing somebody else in,

1018
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 7: you got to ride with what you got and you

1019
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 7: got to think about next year. But he can't creep

1020
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 7: into people's heads.

1021
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: You know.

1022
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 7: It's like, that's gonna be awesome when he does come back.

1023
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 7: But right now, we got to win with this group,

1024
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 7: you know, and those two things could be true. You

1025
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 7: can make a run with this group, and then when

1026
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 7: Aaron walks back in the door man in, it's go time,

1027
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 7: because I think he's still got it. A lot of

1028
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 7: people are down on his play at the end of

1029
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 7: the road there in Green Bay. But I see the

1030
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 7: ball come off his hands. I mean it looks a

1031
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 7: lot different than I watched every game every Sunday. I

1032
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 7: don't see the ball coming off a lot of guy's

1033
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 7: hands like I like, even with Aaron, and even at

1034
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 7: the end of his running Green Bay. So I'm excited

1035
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 7: to see him get back if that's if that's what

1036
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 7: he's going to do, whether it's uh, you know, Super

1037
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 7: Bowl or next year.

1038
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: I want to speak to you quickly about Joe Douglas.

1039
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: He's the guy that you have a relationship with personally

1040
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: from a professional perspective, what do you think about the

1041
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: way he's attacked this roster, and also give us some

1042
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: insight what it was like for you as a player

1043
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: working with Joe behind the scenes.

1044
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 7: Well, first off, I owed Joe a whole lot.

1045
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: I absolutely love the dude.

1046
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 7: He when I was done in New England and I,

1047
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 7: you know, like, I decided I want to walk and

1048
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 7: be a free agent, which most people when you walk

1049
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 7: out of New England, they're like, something's wrong with you?

1050
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 5: And no, I wasn't that.

1051
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 7: I just wanted to play finish my career in a

1052
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 7: system that was more suited to do what I was doing.

1053
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 7: Because I was trying to come back from two years

1054
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 7: of ir getting cut in Saint Louis. You know, I

1055
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 7: wanted to I wanted to finish my my career looking

1056
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 7: like me at some point.

1057
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 5: You know, that was just an uphill battle for a

1058
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 5: couple of years.

1059
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 7: And and to come off of New England, I'm playing

1060
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 7: in a three technique, I'm playing right end up there.

1061
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 5: It just was awkward.

1062
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 7: I wasn't proud of that tape as as much as

1063
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 7: honestly I was with my Philly tape and and I

1064
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 7: and I and I really appreciate Joe for giving me

1065
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 7: the opportunity to put that on tape, you know, and Howie.

1066
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 5: Howie and I talked and stuff, But it.

1067
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 7: Was Joe that that like kind of cleared that deal.

1068
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 7: Because Ian Cunningham was in Chicago right now, was one

1069
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 7: of my teammates in college.

1070
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 5: He's up there with Bryan Poles.

1071
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 7: But I called Ian actually and I was like, hey,

1072
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 7: you guys, think you'd have room for like an older guy,

1073
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 7: And he was like, let me running up the flagpole

1074
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 7: with Joe. And Joe was like, hell yeah, that'd be awesome,

1075
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 7: and they made it happen. So I really appreciate Joe.

1076
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 7: It's not for Joe. My life's totally different right now.

1077
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, when it comes to how

1078
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 7: he operates in the building, he's not one of those

1079
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 7: guys that when you see him walking down the hall,

1080
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 7: you're like, oh, Joe's here, you know, the GM's here,

1081
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 7: or the guy from upstairs is here. Like he's a

1082
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 7: football player, you know, he played ball. He could still

1083
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 7: probably play ball. I see him I see him out there.

1084
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Speaker 7: I mean he looks like he could. He could probably

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Speaker 7: pancake me, you know, get up on the second level

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Speaker 7: and get the safety Joseph Beast, so we identify with him.

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Speaker 7: He treats us like, you know, we're equals. You know,

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Speaker 7: it's a tough business. He's got to cut guys. He

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Speaker 7: used to be the grim Reaper in Baltimore when they

1090
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Speaker 7: first had hard knocks back. There was guy's playbooks before

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Speaker 7: they were coming to get iPads. But Joe is like

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Speaker 7: he does it with grace. I mean, he really is

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Speaker 7: a class act and cares about all the players that

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Speaker 7: he drafts, that he acquires and the ones that he

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Speaker 7: has to cut and trade. And I think that's why

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Speaker 7: guys love Joe, and I obviously likes the big guys,

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Speaker 7: likes the lineman. I think the Philly year, he had

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Speaker 7: a lot to do with that, bringing in Lagarrett, him

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Speaker 7: and Howie working Magic, Legarrett, Patrick Robinson. I think he

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Speaker 7: values Vets, you know myself, Tory Smith and investing in

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Speaker 7: that D line because that literally was how we won

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Speaker 7: that Super Bowl. Well, the offense is pretty darn good.

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Speaker 7: It's not like we did. We held Tom Brady down

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Speaker 7: it was forty one thirty three, but there were a

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Speaker 7: lot of games we won because we were deep up

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Speaker 7: front on both sides of the ball. And I think

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Speaker 7: he wants to build a team the same way, and

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Speaker 7: you can see it coming to fruition with the D line.

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Speaker 7: Now we just got to get the other side of

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Speaker 7: the ball going.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, really appreciate your time today. Know you're busy

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Speaker 1: being a dad. Also the green Light podcast. I know

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Speaker 1: you've done tremendous things with water Boys throughout the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean over the years, I mean just incredible as

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Speaker 1: far as using your platform to help other people. So man,

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Speaker 1: keep it up because I don't know how you have

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Speaker 1: that kind of time in your day, but you've always

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Speaker 1: done a great job.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying, man. You know I don't sleep a lot,

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Speaker 5: so I'm up watching. I'm up watching the Cardinals at

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Speaker 5: two am last night. What am I doing? I'm addicted

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Speaker 5: to football. You guys. Good luck the rest of the way.