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Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 3: As Pittsburgh Steeler Week is underway. Officially, there is football
Speaker 3: gear on a football field and there will be football
Speaker 3: players out there in a matter of moments.
Speaker 4: It's going to be an immaculate game.
Speaker 3: Oh we're going all the way back to nineteen seventy two. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: same day as the Tony Fritch behind the back on
Speaker 3: sidekick and the Rogers stabach Captain comeback win over the
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine.
Speaker 5: Ers more behind the Achilles.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, behind the behind the behind the heel, behind
Speaker 6: the heel, behind the hiel.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. That's what I remember today. That's
Speaker 3: what I remember from that day, My greatest day of
Speaker 3: watching football of my childhood was the Immaculate Reception followed
Speaker 3: by Captain comeback at San Francisco as the Cowboys rallied
Speaker 3: for a thirty to twenty eight win over the forty
Speaker 3: nine ers.
Speaker 4: So they asked Mike where was he when he saw
Speaker 4: the immaculate reception? Yep, growing up in Pittsburgh, growing up
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, watch it had home on his black and
Speaker 4: white TV, which we all did.
Speaker 5: Yes we did.
Speaker 3: Where were you We actually got a color television?
Speaker 2: WoT he hated to bring that up? You know, godly man,
Speaker 2: you talk about a guy with a silver spoon in
Speaker 2: his mouth.
Speaker 4: They can smell fresh cash.
Speaker 3: You know how, I remember, you know how I remember
Speaker 3: when we got a color television. It got installed, what
Speaker 3: delivered whatever?
Speaker 2: You mean the installed installations of the.
Speaker 3: Same that we turned it on and LBJ was making
Speaker 3: the his announcement that he was not running for president.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that would have been eight or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got your TV and that I know,
Speaker 2: you've got a color TV. In the sixties, bro, Hey,
Speaker 2: did you go very very affluent?
Speaker 3: Herv the neighborhood?
Speaker 4: We still in the six we still.
Speaker 5: Had those words go together.
Speaker 4: We had one of those console things that there was
Speaker 4: a phonograph on one side and TV on the other,
Speaker 4: and the knob broke. I can't remember if it was
Speaker 4: the volume or the channel. Yeah, but we had one
Speaker 4: of those those turnkeys from the coffee can that fit
Speaker 4: into where the knob we're supposed.
Speaker 3: To go to turn it on.
Speaker 2: And yes, yes, and it was always the cheap plastic.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So it was probably the channel changer because the volume,
Speaker 2: you know, it has no no.
Speaker 3: Y'all had a channel changer. Well, yeah, it was on
Speaker 3: the TV. Physically, I had to get go and do it.
Speaker 5: I had Yeah, we had players.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I was put TV and every time
Speaker 2: you want to change, just get the plank.
Speaker 3: We not only had a color TV, but we had
Speaker 3: a Cowboy antenna too on top of them. My dad
Speaker 3: put He had all these wires and metal and stuff
Speaker 3: on top of our roof. And actually we had a
Speaker 3: there was a tornado that hit. That's when we can
Speaker 3: watch a Cowboy. That's good because.
Speaker 5: Tyler.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we picked up that Tyler TV station. It
Speaker 3: was all snowy and everything, but still we could pick
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: And uh so that's why you wasn't tough enough to
Speaker 2: make it in basketball.
Speaker 5: You were a spoiled little.
Speaker 3: Kid making a basketball. I started from MacArthur Junior High.
Speaker 5: Junior High.
Speaker 3: We played we didn't play Burkner because y'all were four A.
Speaker 3: I mean y'all were three A and we were four A.
Speaker 2: Yeah when I got there, our first first first year
Speaker 2: in four A okay, seventeen.
Speaker 3: But we played. We played J. J. Pearce, the Baxter
Speaker 3: Boys over there.
Speaker 5: One of those guys ended up being a high jumper.
Speaker 5: I think we may have had this wide receiver ended
Speaker 5: up being the high jump. I went against him and
Speaker 5: he actually called the pass on One of them.
Speaker 3: Played basketball at Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: They got hops. Yeah, man, that's right, that's right. All right?
Speaker 4: Were you watching what reception?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah, I didn't like it, not at all. I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't like Pittsburgh by the way, mister pepper mister
Speaker 6: Peppermin's son played basketball at Lake Islets, Okay, and he
Speaker 6: became a a rock star.
Speaker 5: Is that's right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an immaculate memory.
Speaker 3: Okay. Do you want to talk immaculate receptions? You want
Speaker 3: to talk about receiver? This team?
Speaker 5: Man, I am so this mister.
Speaker 3: Pepperman, you don't know who mister Pepper, You know who
Speaker 3: he is?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: Okay, we had got some breakheads a circus by the way.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, I'm breaking news here from Mike Prescott.
Speaker 4: And Mike McCarthy confirmed that Brandon Cooks is a knee
Speaker 4: issue and he won't be available for this game this week.
Speaker 4: I didn't mention how long he was going to be out,
Speaker 4: but all he would allow is he had a knee issue.
Speaker 4: Or he didn't even allow that. But what's been reported
Speaker 4: is that he had a knee issue that was taken
Speaker 4: care of uh in New York after the game, and
Speaker 4: that it developed an infection afterwards. And we probably need
Speaker 4: more questions. It just came out late this morning.
Speaker 5: So did y'all know that he had New York?
Speaker 3: Did?
Speaker 5: No one knows? No one noticed that he was missing?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know that. We we took attendance on
Speaker 4: the plane ride.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, it's amazing that that this can come out.
Speaker 3: That's right. How the reporters on that flight, How could
Speaker 3: you not account for all the players who flying back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they really tried to keep this sitting.
Speaker 3: They may not have had to fly back on the
Speaker 3: plane on a Thursday game. Could you not and have
Speaker 3: Friday off because you're off on the weekend.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the reason that he stayed instead
Speaker 2: of having the procedure here at home.
Speaker 4: I can't answer that. Yeah, all I know is he
Speaker 4: had a procedure and it was He did allow that
Speaker 4: it was probably a continuation of end of training camp.
Speaker 4: He was missing some practices because he had a sore knee,
Speaker 4: so it sounded like they did maybe did something he
Speaker 4: would not confirmed. That's why Brandon got off to kind
Speaker 4: of a slow start in these first what four games.
Speaker 4: It's like he I don't I'm trying to remember what
Speaker 4: his numbers were these first four games, but they weren't
Speaker 4: as high as they were in training camp. With c
Speaker 4: d missing or well, that was the go to guy.
Speaker 3: I'll run down specifically his games. He had four catches
Speaker 3: for forty yards and a touchdown at Cleveland, two catches
Speaker 3: for nineteen yards against New Orleans, two catches for sixteen
Speaker 3: yards against Baltimore, and in this last game Thursday Night,
Speaker 3: one catch for sixteen yards, and he played forty six
Speaker 3: snaps against the Giants. CD had forty seven.
Speaker 4: Snaps nine total, so he had something bothering them, which makes.
Speaker 3: You wonder if he was planning with the mini by
Speaker 3: weekend to go ahead and.
Speaker 4: Get maybe cleaned up playing there as a complication, he's
Speaker 4: probably had a little bit of I'm just talking out loud,
Speaker 4: if they did a procedure like that, maybe a little
Speaker 4: bit of asus meniscus tear or something, or maybe something
Speaker 4: was floating around in there and you you scope it
Speaker 4: and within a week or so you're ready to And
Speaker 4: that's what I.
Speaker 5: Was going to say.
Speaker 2: They if it wouldn't have been infected gotten infected, then
Speaker 2: he and.
Speaker 3: Again this is all speculations. Yes, we have not heard anything.
Speaker 3: In fact, McCarthy said, I don't get into specifics of
Speaker 3: the players injuries. These specifics should be answered by the
Speaker 3: players or by the guys on mix shots. But he
Speaker 3: will not be.
Speaker 4: Well, we've got we've got a sports writing medical degree here,
Speaker 4: is that right?
Speaker 5: That's right?
Speaker 4: Yea master.
Speaker 3: So what do the Cowboys do at wide receiver? As
Speaker 3: we confirmed that Cooks is not playing against Pittsburgh this week?
Speaker 4: Oh, they're training for DeVante Adams.
Speaker 5: Of course.
Speaker 3: You're saying that tongue in cheek because.
Speaker 4: You just saw it on the TV screen.
Speaker 3: News that he had speculation because he.
Speaker 5: Is very rapid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is very unhappy when you talk to yourself
Speaker 2: on the sidelines.
Speaker 5: You look at the look on his face. You know
Speaker 5: he's arguing with himself.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, guys are happy when they go
Speaker 4: somewhere else and make money, right, and then when they
Speaker 4: don't win, they're unhappy. Well, the money in.
Speaker 2: That case, it was different. Uh, something happened with Carr.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but if I recall their
Speaker 2: college teammates, right, there's no stake, So hell comes what's
Speaker 2: his name again, Adams?
Speaker 5: They have a house right next to each other. Is
Speaker 5: that was that true?
Speaker 2: He bought a house right next to Car and then
Speaker 2: something happened with Car. I forget what happened, but now
Speaker 2: Car has gone Yeah and so, but that's why they
Speaker 2: that's why he came there. He came there to play
Speaker 2: with his college teammate who was half of the decent.
Speaker 3: Seeing he's now has Gardner Minshew or Aidan O'Connell as
Speaker 3: his quarterbacks, then they've got a quarterback controversy of sorts
Speaker 3: going on out there right now, which means they don't
Speaker 3: have a quarterback. Well, cars in New Orleans, and another
Speaker 3: guy he has had much success with, Aaron Rodgers, is
Speaker 3: in New York with the Jets. Okay, so those would
Speaker 3: be too likely landing spots for him.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure when he signed this contract he assumed
Speaker 2: that Derek Carr was going to be there with him
Speaker 2: more than just one year, and so that affected not
Speaker 2: just his career his numbers talking about Adams, but also
Speaker 2: the direction of the team. And then you got rid
Speaker 2: of the running back as well, George Jones verywell, Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 2: and now you're stuck with what you have and I
Speaker 2: don't know what kind of.
Speaker 5: Moves they were making.
Speaker 4: His guaranteed money, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'll take the money, but you still can't win. Money
Speaker 5: doesn't make you win.
Speaker 3: It's almost like in college football. You get four games
Speaker 3: into the season, and the rules in college are that
Speaker 3: you can play four games and if you play beyond
Speaker 3: four games, then it counts as a year for you.
Speaker 3: You can play in four games and it can not
Speaker 3: play the rest of the season and it can be
Speaker 3: a red shirt year for you. So there are actually now,
Speaker 3: especially with the nil and transfer portal, there are guys
Speaker 3: that the team gets off to a one in three
Speaker 3: start the first four games, and they're Okay, I'm out
Speaker 3: of here. I'm going in the transfer portal appreciate.
Speaker 4: So this is this is a okay, well.
Speaker 3: It happened in Vegas with the quarterback. Now you go
Speaker 3: out there with u NLV.
Speaker 4: This is a good example of when you get an
Speaker 4: injury like they did with the defensive ends, everybody wants
Speaker 4: to bring up, well, who are you going to trade for?
Speaker 4: Right now you get this injury? Had you traded already
Speaker 4: for somebody? Now do you trade for this injury?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: You can't keep trading every time somebody gets an injury
Speaker 4: when it was not yeah, and that's and and if
Speaker 4: it's not season ending now this doesn't sound like it's
Speaker 4: season ending. It may be ending during the byewig, who knows.
Speaker 4: But you can't just keep overreacting. And then everybody says, well,
Speaker 4: you got this amount of money under the salary cap. Well,
Speaker 4: one of the reasons they created that money it was
Speaker 4: not for this year. It was to carry over for
Speaker 4: next year when they're really going to be up against
Speaker 4: the salary cap. And then when you explain that to somebody,
Speaker 4: they'll go, well, I can't worry about next year. I'm
Speaker 4: worried about this year. I'm all in.
Speaker 5: No, we were all in last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, Now everybody's mad because we were all
Speaker 2: in and that way out.
Speaker 4: So you can't just keep every time you get an injury,
Speaker 4: say okay, I got to go trade for somebody, and
Speaker 4: so yeah, yeah, uh, the Jalens have to step up,
Speaker 4: Jalen Tober, Jalen Brooks, Cavante Turpin and then I would
Speaker 4: imagine Floor Noy.
Speaker 3: Uh we got we have confirmation on how you say
Speaker 3: his name floor Flo Floy.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Illinois.
Speaker 4: Which is easier not to That's what it is in
Speaker 4: the media.
Speaker 3: Guy, That's what it is in the media guide. But
Speaker 3: and I had meant to, and I had left training
Speaker 3: camp and could not talk to him face to face
Speaker 3: to ask him because there was much talk. Is it
Speaker 3: Floor no Oy? Is it? Then? So preseason games, I
Speaker 3: was using what the Cowboys media department has in the
Speaker 3: media guide Illinois, and Babel Offenburg since then has asked
Speaker 3: him face to face and it is Flinoy.
Speaker 4: So we asked Amani how to say his name?
Speaker 3: Also, by the way, after the and what did he say?
Speaker 4: Just what it sounds like.
Speaker 3: Oh, ruwarre.
Speaker 5: That's not how he said it.
Speaker 4: Well, a little fit faster, I did it phonetically.
Speaker 5: Ship it sounded better than that.
Speaker 4: Well that's what it is.
Speaker 5: Oh No, that's o war that's what you said. That's
Speaker 5: why I said no.
Speaker 3: This last time he said, oh you.
Speaker 4: You know when he said we got confirmation, I thought
Speaker 4: he had confirmation that floor. NOI was going to be
Speaker 4: active on No.
Speaker 3: We don't know how to say his name. That's all
Speaker 3: was activated.
Speaker 4: So anyway, when it when it, when it rains at
Speaker 4: poor us, when when injuries hit.
Speaker 5: Going on the broad playing against Pittsburgh, and.
Speaker 3: I still like the Cowboys wide receivers right wide receiver
Speaker 3: depth better than the Steelers wide.
Speaker 5: Receiver, no doubt.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely So when you look at the situation like this,
Speaker 7: you have no but to depend on something that you're
Speaker 7: not accustomed to.
Speaker 5: That's running game and defense.
Speaker 4: Well, if you could run block, then you can depend
Speaker 4: on the running game. And we'll see if they've gotten
Speaker 4: better about that, because this offense needs to improve, and
Speaker 4: there's no you know, everybody's concerned about the defense. That
Speaker 4: has been concerned about the defense, and rightfully so. After
Speaker 4: giving up all those points in those second and third games.
Speaker 4: But the offense certainly isn't offsetting any of the defensive problems,
Speaker 4: and they need to be able to step up. So
Speaker 4: we'll see if they've made progress or not.
Speaker 2: They're going to have to change the game plan. You
Speaker 2: can't come out with the same type of.
Speaker 5: Rhythm.
Speaker 2: You know, we're used to coming back there as soon
Speaker 2: as Dak's back leg hit with throwing passes. With throwing passes,
Speaker 2: We've got to really change our mindset when it comes
Speaker 2: to this game. We just don't have the same people
Speaker 2: in place. You've got a lot of young guys out there,
Speaker 2: so it's gonna it's gonna take a little adjustment and
Speaker 2: and all of that's going to have to fall on
Speaker 2: the veterans and including your quarterback.
Speaker 3: So who would you like to get increased snaps at
Speaker 3: wide receiver? Which of those guys we're talking the Tolbert's
Speaker 3: been getting, uh, I mean he got so he's part
Speaker 3: of the big three you're tag So now you're talking
Speaker 3: Jalen Brooks, Ryan Flinoy, Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 5: I want that's that's my answer to you got you
Speaker 5: gotta get him open. You gotta get him open.
Speaker 3: He's got receiving skills.
Speaker 4: He does, and more so than they've taken advantage of
Speaker 4: because when he and and not that it's the same
Speaker 4: level of play. I get it. But when he was
Speaker 4: in the USFL and he won Offensive Player of the
Speaker 4: Year award, it wasn't for his returns. It was he
Speaker 4: was a receiver. I don't know how many games they played,
Speaker 4: ten games, maybe regular seasons, he had forty some receptions.
Speaker 3: And a great example is the Baltimore game he had
Speaker 3: because they were playing from behind. Against Baltimore, he had
Speaker 3: eighteen snaps on offense. That's the probably the most he's
Speaker 3: had on offense. We had nineteen against New Orleans too.
Speaker 3: Both games they were playing from behind, so they were
Speaker 3: right nickel and four receiver sets a lot and uh
Speaker 3: so that's why he got more opportunities. He had three
Speaker 3: catches for fifty one yards and a touchdown against Baltimore.
Speaker 4: And Mike pointed out when he was asked about Turpin
Speaker 4: that he said he can play all four spots. Very
Speaker 4: proud that he can play off for a spot. I
Speaker 4: think he's grown a ton since he got here. As
Speaker 4: a wide vision.
Speaker 3: He was like that at TCU. I mean, he was
Speaker 3: a bar right as a wide receiver, not just as
Speaker 3: a return game.
Speaker 2: So it'd be something we can He's singing, hats on.
Speaker 2: You still have CD, you still have of Turping. You're
Speaker 2: gonna need.
Speaker 3: It, and then you can be stronger well. And then
Speaker 3: if Turpin gets increased snaps and he develops more as
Speaker 3: an NFL a wide receiver, then you're even better when
Speaker 3: Cooks gets healthy and gets back.
Speaker 2: Now, one thing you have to remember, this is a
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh defense that knows how to take people out. They
Speaker 2: know how to eliminate you from the game plan. I
Speaker 2: don't know how their DB's are gonna play, but if
Speaker 2: I'm playing against someone like Turpin, I'm just saying, if
Speaker 2: I'm the one of the dbs from Pittsburgh, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get up and press this guy. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 2: I take away all the timing that the quarterback thinks
Speaker 2: he's gonna have.
Speaker 4: Can't press him in the slot, can you?
Speaker 5: Why not?
Speaker 4: Because he's going to get a free release.
Speaker 5: It's not free. Now if you're pressing, you can't. I can.
Speaker 5: Why can't I press against the slot.
Speaker 4: Because he's not going to be on the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 5: Oh you can steal jack him up. Okay, yeah, you
Speaker 5: can still jack him up. Now, good, good, good on
Speaker 5: your part.
Speaker 2: It gives him a bit of a disadvantage, but not
Speaker 2: necessarily that much to where it gives him, you know,
Speaker 2: free rain, I would not give it. That's not the case.
Speaker 2: It will not be free ring that that I can
Speaker 2: tell you. It will be a little bit more of
Speaker 2: a relief because now I'm not here with him. He
Speaker 2: has this much space, so he better use it. He
Speaker 2: better use it. And he's gotta get off the line
Speaker 2: screamings fast because we are a timing and a rhythm
Speaker 2: passing offense.
Speaker 4: Well, he should get two steps for give me two steps.
Speaker 5: Two steps.
Speaker 4: There's something wrong about give me two steps.
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna need it because this game plan
Speaker 2: is I don't think it's gonna be the exciting game
Speaker 2: plan that we're accustomed to. I think we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to dial it down play a much more conservative a game.
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh has a Cavante Turpin type who's their slot corner
Speaker 3: rookie out of West Virginia five nine pound beanie Bishop Wow.
Speaker 3: It could be the matchup of the year. Is the
Speaker 3: Cap versus Beanie Bishop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they better worried about CD Lamb.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well see that's the thing. If they worried about CD Lamb,
Speaker 2: that's great. So then Turpin gets the one on one.
Speaker 3: You might like, you're putting CD in the slot against
Speaker 3: five nine pound Benie Bishop.
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to do that. I don't
Speaker 5: think they're going to do that.
Speaker 4: Well he moves around.
Speaker 2: Well, well see we can create that type of matchup, right,
Speaker 2: we can create that, We can determine that.
Speaker 4: And then you get turping on the outside running.
Speaker 2: Now, now you have to make sure that all your
Speaker 2: wide receivers have their game playing down because you have
Speaker 2: players that, thank god, have gotten some numbers, have gotten
Speaker 2: some plays in throughout these first four games.
Speaker 5: Thank god.
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Speaker 3: Okay, uh, that was a great read there.
Speaker 4: Ever, so there was just the pinnict gallery in the background.
Speaker 3: Where did that come from?
Speaker 5: I don't know who it was. I don't know.
Speaker 3: We do have Nate in Frisco who says, aluminum foil
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Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was watching it on on a
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Speaker 3: Very good? Where would you like to go here? Or
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Speaker 4: Feversly, I may have printed it out wrong because I
Speaker 4: had so much stuff in here.
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Speaker 5: A lot of stuff.
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Speaker 4: We probably ought to talk about the guy we thought
Speaker 4: they were going to sign yesterday. Yes, that you uncovered.
Speaker 4: That's right, by the way, Remember you said, oh, I'm
Speaker 4: I here that they're gonna No.
Speaker 3: I said, that's who I think they should sign. After
Speaker 3: my scouting efforts, and I looked over every practice squad
Speaker 3: in the league, and I decided, you know what, the
Speaker 3: edge rusher that I want is the guy that's a
Speaker 3: year former fifth round draft pick of Washington who's on
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati practice practice squad.
Speaker 4: K J.
Speaker 2: Henry, didn't you didn't influence anyone?
Speaker 5: I hope. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: I mean they already hit it there and I think
Speaker 2: you probably read it before you came.
Speaker 3: In, might have read it on Twitter that gonna side.
Speaker 4: They He spent uh five years at Clemson. He was
Speaker 4: had a red shirt year, a COVID year there. Uh,
Speaker 4: but he he was a get this. He was a
Speaker 4: two time academic All American defensive end. And he finished
Speaker 4: at Clemson with his bachelor's and master's degree. Wow, how
Speaker 4: about that made them five years pay off for got
Speaker 4: something and still still five years.
Speaker 3: While still sounds like a Brent Venables recruit, right.
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 4: And he went to Clemson. He was His other two
Speaker 4: choices were Alabama and Georgia, and he chose Clemson.
Speaker 3: His degrees in sports communication in December twenty twenty and
Speaker 3: his master's degree in athletic leadership December twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: What is athletic leadership?
Speaker 3: You thought they.
Speaker 4: Got a program for that.
Speaker 3: Maybe you get a master's if your name team captain
Speaker 3: at Clemson and you get a master's in athletic leadership.
Speaker 4: Well so at Washington. He played in ten games last year,
Speaker 4: had three starts, okay, nineteen tackles, a second and a half,
Speaker 4: four tackles for losses, a couple quarterback hits. He played
Speaker 4: against the Cowboys thirty one snaps the first time, one tackle,
Speaker 4: and in the last game, I guess they're playing everybody, right,
Speaker 4: he had forty eight snaps, one tackle.
Speaker 5: Damn. It's hard to get a tackle, I guess. Damn.
Speaker 5: I was hoping you were going to say, oh, for
Speaker 5: this game, one tackle, just.
Speaker 4: Trying to see how much he played against the tackle,
Speaker 4: I mean against the Cowboys if they had you know,
Speaker 4: game intimate game team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: And then uh, he got released on the final cut,
Speaker 4: and then the Bengals picked him up. He played two games.
Speaker 4: I think it looked like it was just special teams.
Speaker 4: Uh and uh. And then he got demoted to the
Speaker 4: practice squad, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: Son of what son of a coach? Too?
Speaker 5: Was my next what's his what's his downside?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know his stats to me on downside,
Speaker 2: but he's got all this this mental capacity going.
Speaker 7: He's you know in college well, as Bill pointed out, yes, what's.
Speaker 5: His prob what does he not do?
Speaker 4: He was a five star recruit too, too, fifty one.
Speaker 4: He weighed two fifty one at the combine and ran
Speaker 4: a four six forty, So he's got some athletic ability.
Speaker 5: Just a little light in the bulk, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: He was somewhat optunity a run starter stopper more than
Speaker 4: a pass rusher. I think that was his deal coming out.
Speaker 4: But the analysis was in the draft that you know,
Speaker 4: a guy that potentially could work into being a starter.
Speaker 4: So maybe he's a guy that needs some some time.
Speaker 4: He was a team captain too, by the way.
Speaker 5: I hear all of that, but then I keep hearing freaking.
Speaker 4: Tackle that was against the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Just saying that not just the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: The last game Cowboy offense.
Speaker 5: I hear all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, what what is what is holding him back?
Speaker 4: That's all I want, well, there's a reason why he
Speaker 4: was on.
Speaker 5: The practice So yes see, that's why I'm headed.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my last statement, but I want
Speaker 2: you to I wanted something otherwise.
Speaker 4: As I said yesterday, I wanted to point out that
Speaker 4: that was because Doren Armstrong and Dante Fowler were there
Speaker 4: ahead of him at defensive end.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we'll see, we will.
Speaker 4: But at least that's a body that's prepared to play, right. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he doesn't have to come here and ramp up.
Speaker 5: We can. We can walk him down for one tackle.
Speaker 5: We can get him. We can get that it.
Speaker 4: Had nineteen last year. That's almost won a game.
Speaker 3: Okay, do you have his snap account?
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think it. Let's get off of this.
Speaker 5: Let's go somewhere.
Speaker 3: I had picture cowboy. Is he actually going to play
Speaker 3: against Pittsburgh?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 4: I bet he does.
Speaker 3: Okay, So who you who you lining up to replace
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence and.
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons Kneelan to start Goldsten, and then I'm rotating
Speaker 4: in Carl Lawson, who hopefully is in good enough shape
Speaker 4: and ready to play football after barely playing last year,
Speaker 4: uh and not going to training camp with anybody.
Speaker 3: He was with the Cowboys, But he.
Speaker 4: Was with the Cowboys at the end of training camp
Speaker 4: after they had a workout and let him go home
Speaker 4: and then came back.
Speaker 3: So you think he should get in shape and come back,
Speaker 3: You said, what they you think they told.
Speaker 4: Him, Well, that's why he ended up on the.
Speaker 3: Practice was a financial issue.
Speaker 4: He I think initially there was he was looking for
Speaker 4: more money and then when no more money showed up
Speaker 4: and it was like, okay, well I'll go back there
Speaker 4: and sign. So at least the guy has played in
Speaker 4: the league, right.
Speaker 3: I don't know he's played. He's played quite a while
Speaker 3: in the league too, having success in the league to
Speaker 3: seven years. Carl Lawson's the guy you're counting one right.
Speaker 4: Now to get by for them really step, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 3: He's the guy that's going to have increased snaps.
Speaker 5: I hope they're in shape.
Speaker 2: I hope they they've been practicing well, because they are
Speaker 2: going to get a heavy dose of the black and
Speaker 2: gold coming straight at him trying to run down hill.
Speaker 5: What's the running backs name for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Harris.
Speaker 3: Naji, Harrison nag They got Cordero Patterson as well, who's
Speaker 3: banged up a little bit.
Speaker 5: Right now, and thank god.
Speaker 3: But he did play last game. He just didn't and
Speaker 3: he hadn't ever May snapped so far. That's the other thing.
Speaker 3: As far as how big he was, Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 3: he's been a wide receiver and then late in his
Speaker 3: career a return man, a pro five time Pro bowler
Speaker 3: as a return man. In fact, it's not a coincidence
Speaker 3: that the Steelers signed him on the same day the
Speaker 3: NFL changed the kickoff rules to the dynamic kickoff. That
Speaker 3: means literally, that was the first signing in the league
Speaker 3: after it was announced that they approved the kickoff rules.
Speaker 3: Is Pittsburgh signed Corderial Patters?
Speaker 5: That's smart? Move Smarth move, that's right.
Speaker 4: So he's he's only averaging three point four Harry, is
Speaker 4: that Harris or Harris Fields is at three to eight
Speaker 4: so and lost and played twenty two snaps in this
Speaker 4: last game.
Speaker 2: So, but that that just lets you know their mindset.
Speaker 2: Three point plus yours. That's good enough for them.
Speaker 3: That good Is that good enough for us?
Speaker 2: Nope, it is not good enough because our defense hadn't
Speaker 2: shown that they can give us more chances.
Speaker 3: Well, what they're doing on their defense.
Speaker 5: Defense. They're playing to their defense.
Speaker 3: The reason they lost their last game really is because
Speaker 3: their defense didn't play like they played the first three games. Agay,
Speaker 3: from the from the start of the season. You watched
Speaker 3: the opening drive of the game. Yeah, so Anthony Richardson
Speaker 3: comes out firing. He threw a laser over the middle
Speaker 3: that somehow was caught in traffic for about thirty five yards,
Speaker 3: and then even on their next drive, they just they
Speaker 3: ran it right at the Steelers.
Speaker 5: Very unusual. Yeah, very unusual.
Speaker 3: And Mike Tomlin talked about it in this press conference yesterday.
Speaker 3: He was not happy with the way his defense came
Speaker 3: out and started that game. Now they got better after
Speaker 3: a what but and he's like, that's the point of
Speaker 3: emphasis for them, and he feels good about the fact
Speaker 3: that the who the opponent is this week and it's
Speaker 3: Sunday night football, and his defense will be ready to
Speaker 3: play from the start.
Speaker 5: Talking about the Colts, that's the running back Taylor, I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what they do.
Speaker 3: They run the ball Taylor.
Speaker 4: Taylor had eighty eight yards. They ended up thirty two
Speaker 4: carries for one hundred and thirty three yards.
Speaker 5: That's what they do. We're not as efficient as running
Speaker 5: the ball as.
Speaker 4: They are, and and Flacco completed sixteen of twenty six
Speaker 4: for one sixty eight two touchdowns. He had a one
Speaker 4: to five quarterback rating.
Speaker 5: By that's when the quarterback hurt. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Richardson heard his hip on the on that second series.
Speaker 5: Of the game.
Speaker 4: And Pittman wide receiver Michael Pittman six catches for one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirteen yeards.
Speaker 3: One of them was that first.
Speaker 5: Play of the game. He's no, he's amazing. Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: their seedon.
Speaker 4: Two yarder average eighteen eight catch.
Speaker 2: Just like you said, the better they better worry about
Speaker 2: c D and we should play off of that. They
Speaker 2: better worry about CD.
Speaker 4: Well, they'll worry about c D by putting pressure on
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3: And wait trying Cowboys better worry about t J.
Speaker 5: Watt. Yeah, oh, come on, of course, come on.
Speaker 3: That means Cameron Hayward upfront on their defense too.
Speaker 5: Who's going against what?
Speaker 3: Wherever he was he's don't you think well? And against
Speaker 3: the Colts early in that game. I haven't looked at
Speaker 3: the entire game, but early in the game he was
Speaker 3: lining up on the left side left defensive then so.
Speaker 5: Still but.
Speaker 4: I bet they move them.
Speaker 3: I'll watch the rest of the game later today.
Speaker 4: That means more snaps for lip Key got you gotta
Speaker 4: chip them. You got to make sure that he doesn't
Speaker 4: get free.
Speaker 5: I think I think that's going to be our m O.
Speaker 3: Garnell Washington. You know, you know Darnell Washington. He's the
Speaker 3: big tight end for Pittsburgh, who's basically I loved him
Speaker 3: in the draft out of Georgia board number zero at
Speaker 3: Georgia Everson I remember, you know, Brock Bowers was their
Speaker 3: tight end and I remember watching for the first time
Speaker 3: watching Georgia on going who is number zero? I fell
Speaker 3: in love with Darnell Washington and he wound up being
Speaker 3: a third round pick and he had a knee issue
Speaker 3: and a lot of teams had him red flag because
Speaker 3: of that, but the Steelers took it and he hadn't
Speaker 3: missed any time and that he's actually caught a touchdown
Speaker 3: pass in one of their games this year. They're finally
Speaker 3: starting to use him a little bit in the past game.
Speaker 3: But he is basically a sixth offensive lineman on the field,
Speaker 3: and he'll play thirty or forty snaps and he adds
Speaker 3: to their run game as a basically a third offensive time.
Speaker 3: He's that big, he's six seven, he was I think
Speaker 3: he was too seventy at the combine. But he's athletic,
Speaker 3: he's built like he's Marcedes Lewis. Yeah, you know, Marcedes
Speaker 3: Lewis has played twenty years in this league. I forgot
Speaker 3: about it and he's still in the league. Places for
Speaker 3: Chicago now, and but that's who. That's who I and
Speaker 3: Marcedes Lewis was a first round, late first round draft
Speaker 3: pick at Jacksonville, and that's who I thought Darnell Washington
Speaker 3: is if the stays out.
Speaker 4: So the Colts figured out how to stop t J. Watt.
Speaker 4: He had two assisted tackles. That's it. I didn't do
Speaker 4: such a good job with Cam Hayward. Hayward had six tackles,
Speaker 4: one sack, one tackle for a loss, three quarterback hits.
Speaker 3: He's a big reason that Najee Harris had what thirteen
Speaker 3: carries for nineteen yards in that game.
Speaker 4: Do what now?
Speaker 3: You're talking about Cam Hayward.
Speaker 4: Right, had that big game steeped the right tackle?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a very confusing.
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Speaker 3: Final few minutes of mixed shots for a Wednesday And
Speaker 3: the breaking news in case you missed it, is that
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks is out this week, has a knee issue.
Speaker 3: So the Cowboys are gonna need some receivers to step
Speaker 3: up against the Steelers on Sunday Night Football this week
Speaker 3: and make you anything else. So we needn't need to know.
Speaker 3: Out of Mike McCarthy's press conference today.
Speaker 4: Well let me look and see if there's anything of
Speaker 4: note here. He said, Caitlin Carson is slated to go
Speaker 4: at practice. They're going to see just where he's at
Speaker 4: if they start his would he get twenty one days
Speaker 4: coming off ir? So I think they're going to kind
Speaker 4: of judge where he's at it his rehab to see
Speaker 4: if it's time to start his clock ticking. So that
Speaker 4: would certainly help out. And it looked like Bland is
Speaker 4: getting closer to how close I confuse Carson Carson. They're
Speaker 4: looking to see if he can practice. Bland is getting
Speaker 4: close to starting his twenty one day coming off of IR.
Speaker 3: So what we're looking at with Bland is is there
Speaker 3: a chance he could play before the bye week? It's
Speaker 3: my question, My.
Speaker 4: Question would My answer probably would be depending on how
Speaker 4: much he does once they start him, because usually the
Speaker 4: way they treat guys coming off IR is you practice
Speaker 4: one week and if you get through one week, then
Speaker 4: you practice the next week and you probably release you
Speaker 4: to play. So he's got to have two weeks of
Speaker 4: practice before they normally look.
Speaker 3: My next question is the twenty one day window. Okay,
Speaker 3: obviously the if if let's say he activated him, they
Speaker 3: activated him to day and started his twenty one day window. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: you got this week and the Detroit week. That's two weeks,
Speaker 3: basically fourteen days of your window. Does your bye week
Speaker 3: count in the in the count against those days?
Speaker 4: I believe it does, So it wouldn't be smart to
Speaker 4: do it until next week because there's no way he'll play.
Speaker 4: I mean if he has to practice two weeks before
Speaker 4: he plays, I mean, if he started today, would he
Speaker 4: be ready for the Detroit game. I don't know. Then
Speaker 4: you got the buy it seems like you would use
Speaker 4: the buye. So if Carson's ready to go, that helps out.
Speaker 4: Although so when when when everybody asks about elevating Dalvin Cook,
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to elevate a defensive end and they're
Speaker 4: gonna have to elevate a cornerback. You only get two, right,
Speaker 4: so those are the necessities right now to fill out
Speaker 4: those two spots.
Speaker 3: Hmmm.
Speaker 4: So Bland he said he's working towards that, meaning returning
Speaker 4: to practice, So it doesn't sound like he's returning to practice.
Speaker 4: And think about it. You don't practice during the bye week.
Speaker 4: And what exactly is the injury for Carson? I'm talking no,
Speaker 4: Bland was a fractured fifth meta Tarsel Carson was a shoulder,
Speaker 4: so they did surgery on it. And the reason you
Speaker 4: do surgery on it is because it helps facilitate faster
Speaker 4: recovery from the broken bone or fractured bone.
Speaker 3: Every team in the league is going through this stuff,
Speaker 3: including the Steelers. I mean they've got injuries on their
Speaker 3: offensive line when you and they've got injuries elsewhere too,
Speaker 3: or second running back Jalen Warren I mentioned Patterson as well,
Speaker 3: but I mean, just look across the border, crawl across
Speaker 3: the league. Everybody's dealing with injuries of some sort and
Speaker 3: major injuries.
Speaker 4: Oh and about Henry McCarthy said that they the personnel
Speaker 4: department had their eye on him for a while. So
Speaker 4: probably you go back and look at what you thought
Speaker 4: of him about the draft, and.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, they probably liked him in the draft, and
Speaker 3: yeah he was fifth round, fifth round Washington, and then
Speaker 3: you keep an eye on him, and especially in the
Speaker 3: case of Washington, they this year with a changing coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Then you've got you sign a couple of free agents
Speaker 3: and Armstrong and Dante Fowler from here and it becomes
Speaker 3: a money game and you're trying to get him to
Speaker 3: the practice squad and so he gets an opportunity to
Speaker 3: see what he can do here. Yeah, and the Cowboys
Speaker 3: have had an obvious need, even going back to I
Speaker 3: think they had a need even before Sam Williams got hurt.
Speaker 3: I mean, did they replace both Dorn's Armstrong and Dante
Speaker 3: Fowler and free agency that would be a nor. So
Speaker 3: they were lacking in depth to begin with.
Speaker 4: That's why it was really important that Sam Williams played
Speaker 4: well because that was going to allow them to use Micaeh.
Speaker 4: Parsons more at linebacker.
Speaker 3: And then when he went just why Parsons got down
Speaker 3: to two forty yeah, exactly his college.
Speaker 4: Weight, and that never materialized. It was materializing in training
Speaker 4: camp until Sam Williams got hurt.
Speaker 3: Well, good, this will give up Mica an opportunity to
Speaker 3: put on more weight. It can be more like a
Speaker 3: defensive end, which is well, well, no joking, but no, no,
Speaker 3: no no.
Speaker 4: And tomorrow we're going to do a deep dive into
Speaker 4: Mazzie Smith.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4: Who is emerging?
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: We'll see if it continues.
Speaker 3: Okay, I do like that. All right, very good, so
Speaker 3: we will. It'll be Mozzie Thursday on Mixed Shots tomorrow
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