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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norrie with you

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Speaker 2: along with Micah dank as we talk about the possibility

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Speaker 2: of the existence of God. We'll take your calls next

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Speaker 2: hour and see what happens. Michaeh. While we're doing some

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Speaker 2: research about your story coming up tonight, I went on

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Speaker 2: Google and put in some AI information about the existence

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Speaker 2: of God. Let me read you what they said. You ready? Sure?

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Speaker 2: It says there is no definitive scientific proof for or

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Speaker 2: against God's existence, but various arguments and types of evidence

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Speaker 2: are offered, including the Universe's origin, the Big Bang, It's

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Speaker 2: apparent design, the existence of morality and consciousness, fulfilled prophecy,

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Speaker 2: personal religious experiences, and the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics and

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Speaker 2: describing reality. Those these are matters of interpretation rather than

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Speaker 2: empirical proof. What the heck does that all mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just looking over one of my presentations

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Speaker 3: that I usually do, and I came across something that

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Speaker 3: I wanted to share with you. To me if you

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Speaker 3: want so. Where we're located in our section in the

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Speaker 3: Milky Way, which is nowhere special, right, We're just a

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Speaker 3: random dot in somewhere in the Milky Way galaxy. In

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Speaker 3: the greater universe, we have the Sun, which tells the

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Speaker 3: hour of the day, we have the moon, which tells

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Speaker 3: us the day of the month, and we have the zodiac,

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Speaker 3: which tells the months of the year. So where we're

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Speaker 3: located in a seemingly random place, we have a perfect

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Speaker 3: celestial calendar. And to me, that's a fingerprint of creation.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt in my mind that there's some

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Speaker 2: kind of intelligence behind all this. I mean, look at

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Speaker 2: the human body, for example. We have a mouth to

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Speaker 2: talk and those to breathe, eyes to see, and ears

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Speaker 2: to hear. What genius would come up with that?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's good, that's yeah, that's the whole that's the

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Speaker 3: whole argument between in the Bible when they're talking about

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Speaker 3: the firmament, where they're talking about the dome over Earth,

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Speaker 3: around Earth versus flatters. That's the whole thing is that

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Speaker 3: if the Earth is flat and there is a dome

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Speaker 3: over it, then there absolutely is a creator. And I

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Speaker 3: think society tries to pull you away from that, to

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Speaker 3: be honest with you, Well.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, though, Michael, and how would

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Speaker 2: you explain this take this position, just for just for

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Speaker 2: a moment. If there is no God, if there is

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Speaker 2: no creator, how can you explain everything that exists?

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Speaker 3: You can't because something cannot come from nothing.

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Speaker 2: Correct. No, we might not have the answer how it exists.

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Speaker 2: You can't explain the non existence of it.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can, you know.

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Speaker 3: There's a quote from Alan Watts. I recently saw a

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Speaker 3: production that they put on for him. It was like

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Speaker 3: a visual It was a dumb they did like a

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Speaker 3: visual audio slash. They had a philosophy over there. And

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Speaker 3: when I was telling you that everything is a part

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Speaker 3: of God, Alan Watts has this quote and he says,

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Speaker 3: Jesus Christ knew he was God. So wake up and

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Speaker 3: find out eventually who you really are. In our culture,

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Speaker 3: of course, they'll say you're crazy and you're blasphemous, and

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Speaker 3: they'll either put you in a jail or in a nuthouse,

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Speaker 3: which is basically the same thing. However, if you wake

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Speaker 3: up in India and tell your friends and relations, my goodness,

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Speaker 3: I've just discovered that I'm God, they'll laugh and say, oh, congratulations, at.

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Speaker 2: Last you found out what took you so long? Right, exactly. Well,

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Speaker 2: we know one thing, prayer works. So when we pray,

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Speaker 2: where does it go to somebody's doing something?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's this there's this great story. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you've heard this story before, but in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: They flew in a bunch of Buddhist monks to sit

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Speaker 3: So they had all they had a hotel full of

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Speaker 3: these Buddhist monks and they were meditating and they were praying.

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Speaker 3: And it turned out that that weekend that they were there,

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Speaker 3: crime went down in DC thirty percent.

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Speaker 2: I heard about that, right, dramatic?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it's you're you're you're connecting resource

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Speaker 3: when you pray. To be honest, people think that it's

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Speaker 3: then God is just going to be like, Okay, here

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Speaker 3: Humans are responsible for two things. You're responsible for your thought,

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Speaker 3: your your your intentions, and your actions. You're not responsible

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Speaker 3: for your thoughts. I mean, think about it, George. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: then our mind reacts to it viscerally, But how can

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Speaker 3: you both be the source of the thought and the reactor.

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Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that creates the

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Speaker 2: If things happen, bad things happen, they don't know why.

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Speaker 2: It's confusing to a lot of people, especially those who

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Speaker 3: Right, that's also part of atheism. Why is their childhood sickness?

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Speaker 3: Why is there this and as good as it gets

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Speaker 3: as I mean, as bad as it gets out there,

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Speaker 3: as bad and as awful as it is, the equal

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Speaker 3: on the other side, as good as it gets happens.

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Speaker 3: Because everything is polarity, everything is binary.

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Speaker 2: Were you raised as a believer?

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Speaker 3: No, I was not. I was raised in a Jewish household,

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Speaker 3: a conservative Jewish household, and I never ever took to it,

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Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I never I never accepted

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Speaker 3: that God was what this you know, holy text, that

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Speaker 3: was like nine, and I've been you know, looking for

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Speaker 3: answers there and then you you can kind of you

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Speaker 3: can kind of see it anywhere. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: if you if you just look as there's a. There's

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Speaker 3: a quote from uh this lady Nargis Alegria. She's a thinker,

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Speaker 3: she's she's one of the She's on Instagram and and

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Speaker 3: she's everywhere, and she says, to become absolute, you have

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Speaker 3: to accept that you are God, that there is only God.

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Speaker 3: You have to admit that others are Gods too. But

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Speaker 3: if your love does not stretch that far and you

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Speaker 3: are blinded by your shadow, don't complain that liberation didn't

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Speaker 3: happen yet. Why should freedom reveal itself to someone who

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Speaker 3: refuses to embody love. When you are ready to perceive

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Speaker 3: God in everything, you open the gate, the gate that

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Speaker 3: opens the possibility of being eaten raw in the absolute

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Speaker 3: or by the absolute ts Everything you hate is God

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Speaker 3: because there is only God. Anything you think that should

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Speaker 3: not be happening is God because there is only God.

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Speaker 3: Realize there will only be God, and it will prevail

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Speaker 3: first in your experience then in the collective.

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Speaker 4: And I know you're gonna want some after hearing this.

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Speaker 4: This is an amazing story.

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Speaker 1: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine

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Speaker 4: years old now, was suffering with not just one or

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right.

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Speaker 5: It was Tie's book actually that got me thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. It is an amazing immunal modulator, and

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Speaker 1: so I can see that it would work.

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Speaker 4: And so at what point did you see that there

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Speaker 4: was actually improvement It's really going to work.

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Speaker 5: Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

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Speaker 5: and then going down to the with just little red marks.

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Speaker 5: The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's

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Speaker 5: you know one the size of the warner. I thought,

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Speaker 5: no way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to

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Speaker 5: see him get into a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see him so happy and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, confident, absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Friends that have seen it, that is blown away. Ti,

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Speaker 1: this is awesome, Yeah, this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Michael, when I see my grandchildren and now my great

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Speaker 2: herd children, I tear up a little bit, realizing that

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Speaker 2: there is so much to this life that we don't understand.

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Speaker 2: But there's got to be one thing that we haven't

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Speaker 2: talked about yet, and that is belief. There's got to

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Speaker 2: be a system within humans where we simply believe, we

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Speaker 2: don't question, we can't get the information. We've just talked

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Speaker 2: about some of the loopholes. But you just have to believe, don't.

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Speaker 3: You well believe it is the absence of knowing. It's

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't physically prove it, but I believe

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Speaker 2: You concluded for yourself about what this is?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Well, it has to do a lot of it

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Speaker 3: has to do with what Picasso said. He said, Okay,

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Speaker 3: And it's also learning. I mean, we're born with a

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Speaker 3: And I think that through disclosure and through people understanding

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Speaker 3: kind of like what you're seeing with the Epstein thing

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Speaker 2: How do you explain miracles, Michaeh.

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Speaker 3: I think miracles are just things that happen here that

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Speaker 2: Are they God given?

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Speaker 2: Can you have a little hesitancy about yourself there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't know if it's. Well, the

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Speaker 3: think everything has a logical answer at the same time too.

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Speaker 2: My question to him would be do you know how

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 2: There are some that believe we live in a digital world,

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 3: It kind of makes it kind of makes life's problems

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Speaker 2: You stop and see why? Why does this happen? Why

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know what kind of planet we could build if

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Speaker 3: But at the same time you have to understand is

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Speaker 3: And it's all part within creation and Isaiah forty five

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Speaker 2: Do you believe in extra terrestrial life?

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Speaker 3: I do, But I think it's one of two things.

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Speaker 2: You don't think they're on other planetary systems. There are

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Speaker 2: I bet if you met an extraterrestrial and asked him

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Speaker 2: We're always wondering. I don't have an answer.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the reason of all.

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Speaker 2: It's probably one of those.

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Speaker 3: I also think it's important not to lose yourself in

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Speaker 2: But it's fun thro being, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It definitely exercises your brain, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to this, Enjoy your life, be good

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I try to do that with this radio show. Every

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Speaker 2: And I've done that creed for twenty three years with

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Speaker 2: it's working and talking to great people like you make

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Well, you should be fulfilled by what you do.

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