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Speaker 1: that incident for more people to come across the border.

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Speaker 1: You heard what I said about the courts right. They

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Speaker 1: people challenge us in courts and you just had a judge.

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Speaker 1: I know, but let's but let's but let's let's not

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Speaker 1: be afraid of the courts forever. I mean, listen, we've

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Speaker 1: got to be rule of law, and let's hold the

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Speaker 1: courts account. I know, but you keep telling me you've

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Speaker 1: got a whole lot of second outs. You keep saying

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Speaker 1: you've got to be a rule of law. But then

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Speaker 1: you say, but in this case, we're gonna wave all

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Speaker 1: these laws for eight hundred thousand people, let them stay.

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Speaker 1: That's not rule of law. Do you, Buck, do you

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna come out of this without some sort

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Speaker 1: of compromise. Do you think we're gonna be hard line

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna immigrants? I think I think this is

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Speaker 1: very instructive. Look at the way, and I think you

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Speaker 1: and I Alex see a lot of this is very

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Speaker 1: much the same way, and agree on what we want

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Speaker 1: here as the long term and what's good for the country.

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Speaker 1: But notice how you're saying, well, let's let's talk. And

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Speaker 1: this is not casting any expersions on your argument or

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, But Buck, we've got to compromise. The

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Speaker 1: first thing that we're the first thing that's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: is give the Democrats amnesty. That's supposed to be a compromise.

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Speaker 1: That it's the first thing is not let me let

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Speaker 1: me let me predicate that that this deal would require

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Speaker 1: the funding for the wall. And I want the verified

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Speaker 1: because that's really what's feeding the immigration thing is that

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Speaker 1: we don't have the verified So let's have that as

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Speaker 1: part of the minimum standard it if you want the

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Speaker 1: DOCTA people listen that the Democrats want the DOCTA thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: if that's the leverage we got, then let's get all

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Speaker 1: we were we should get. I want to verify, I

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Speaker 1: want the wall and border security. I know that that's

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Speaker 1: been my position to but I would just know that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have shown zero willingness to do any of that,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think Republicans have have pushed hard enough

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Speaker 1: that have made the case strong enough to get them

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Speaker 1: to concede anything. Right now, all that's being discussed really

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Speaker 1: is does the funding for the government, you know, do

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Speaker 1: do we extend the debt ceiling? Do we find or

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Speaker 1: do we have a continued resolution for the government, And

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Speaker 1: are we gonna do it with DOCCA or not? You know,

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Speaker 1: with a DOCCA fix. But notice other even calling it

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Speaker 1: a fix. It is amnesty. It is amnesty. It is

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Speaker 1: not a fix. DOCCA is not some bug in the

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Speaker 1: system that nobody could have ever foreseen. DOCCA is a

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Speaker 1: Democrat program that they want to make permanent for illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: It is amnesty. That is what it is. I'm not

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Speaker 1: frustrated with you, Alex. I'm just frush rated with the

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Speaker 1: way that conversations being had in the country. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: we're friends. No, No, I get it, Yeah, you get it.

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Speaker 1: We have one we we have one thing different this time.

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Speaker 1: This is a dude in the White House who isn't

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Speaker 1: afraid to be called a jerk, and who isn't afraid

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Speaker 1: to stare them down, and who isn't afraid of the courts,

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Speaker 1: and is asking the same question you and I've been

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Speaker 1: asking for twenty years. What the heck are we doing?

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Speaker 1: What is this? This is insane. So now that we

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Speaker 1: have a guy with a spine and a guy who

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Speaker 1: doesn't care about mud and poop being thrown at him,

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Speaker 1: let's stand up, let's back him, and let's hold the line. Alright.

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Speaker 1: Let's see I've been hoping, I've been hoping he's the

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Speaker 1: X factor to in all this, Alex. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 1: Trump and his megaphone will change things shield time, my friend,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for calling in lively, lively discussion.

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Speaker 1: HERB driving through n J, Hey, Herb. Hey. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: Alex was right on on a lot of points, and

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Speaker 1: let me just uh segue into UM. You know, as

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Speaker 1: I was looking at a couple of the proposals that

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Speaker 1: are out there, I saw HR forty seven in the

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Speaker 1: sixty six and for the life of me, I can't

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Speaker 1: remember if the major sponsors name is gold Lad or whatever.

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Speaker 1: He's representative from the Virginia sixth District UM. And I

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Speaker 1: compared that with the proposal from the UM Senate Gang

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Speaker 1: of six. And when I when I saw the Senate proposal,

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Speaker 1: I was appalled because that is UM the worst case scenario, UM,

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Speaker 1: similar to the way you've described it with the three

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Speaker 1: million plus UH participants getting full amnesty in the whole

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Speaker 1: nine yards UM. But when I looked at HR sixty UM,

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Speaker 1: it seems very close to UH and in detail UM

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Speaker 1: listing the kind of concerns that I share with Alex.

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Speaker 1: UM with regard to UM limited only to current participants

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Speaker 1: UH in Daco. So that's you know, uh us than

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Speaker 1: UH seven hundred thousand participants UH and limiting that to

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Speaker 1: a three year extension as well as getting all the

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Speaker 1: other things that we need to get this country secure again.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, you're saying the negotiation under HR sixty

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Speaker 1: as it's being it's still I think that's still in progress,

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Speaker 1: right with it. That hasn't so that that's it was

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Speaker 1: just it was just put out UH last week. It's

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Speaker 1: currently going through the co sponsorship problect. That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's still making its way through. It's making its way through. UM.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's what I would say. A temporary extension of

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Speaker 1: DOCTA in in response to or in exchange for a

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Speaker 1: permanent or permanent border security and immigration measures would be

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Speaker 1: something that I could live with. I I but I

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Speaker 1: can assure you the Democrats will again, they will go

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Speaker 1: to the mat on this, they think, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: all for look meaning and they and go for that.

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Speaker 1: They will not go for a temporary DOCCA fix for

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Speaker 1: them is no fix right there, because they know that

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Speaker 1: that just means that their leverage is diminished. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's important for our discussion. For Democrats, this is

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Speaker 1: all about one thing, the mid terms, and they think

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Speaker 1: that DOCCA is the way to energize their base and

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Speaker 1: by the way, separate out some of the Trump base

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Speaker 1: and and damp an enthusiasm going in the mid terms.

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Speaker 1: They feel like if they get DACCA, they can take

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Speaker 1: back the Senate, and from there on end they just

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Speaker 1: stymy and obstruct the Trump administration and try to move

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Speaker 1: towards some kind of impeachment proceeding, assuming they can get

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Speaker 1: that going in the House. And I say, let's dig

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Speaker 1: our heels in and say, look, we're offering you a

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Speaker 1: compromise of what you want, and you're telling us that

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Speaker 1: that's no good, and for that reason, you're gonna force

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Speaker 1: a shutdown of the government. It's not the Republicans uh fault.

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Speaker 1: If they go ahead and say we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring this to a vote anyway, and um, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: vote in favor of either a budget resolution or a

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Speaker 1: continuing resolution. As much as I, you know, am upset

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Speaker 1: about that prospect, but let's keep things going and and

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Speaker 1: figure out how we're gonna fund this government properly. And

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Speaker 1: then let's also do immigration reform properly, um. And if

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Speaker 1: you're going to vote no on it, then the government

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Speaker 1: shut down is your responsibility, not ours. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have enough votes unless it requires

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Speaker 1: a sixty vote majority in the Senate, So the Senate

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Speaker 1: would be the one the Senate that they'll fill abus

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Speaker 1: their refusal. Okay, let and then so then it's their

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Speaker 1: fault for shutting down to government. You are correct, but

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Speaker 1: their storyline will be in herb thank you for a

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Speaker 1: great call man, drive safe in New Jersey. Um. Their

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Speaker 1: their version of events is going to be that the

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Speaker 1: shut down is Republicans fault in that they were not

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Speaker 1: reasonable enough to do a DOCCA fix, which I know

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Speaker 1: you're like, Buck, that's verbal gymnastics. That is that is pitiful,

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Speaker 1: that is claptrap. And I would say to you, yes,

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Speaker 1: But does more than half the country know that. Do Democrats,

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Speaker 1: with the help of the media, think that they can

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Speaker 1: convince people that even though it is their fault the

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Speaker 1: government shuts down, the Republicans will be held at fault

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Speaker 1: for the shutdown, if you know what I mean. Eight

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Speaker 1: four four Buck, eight four four to five got a

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Speaker 1: lot more on this and also some follow up to

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Speaker 1: some of the other big stories of the week, concluding, Well,

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Speaker 1: at somebody will talk more about Trump's health and the

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Speaker 1: way the left has freaked out about it, and also

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Speaker 1: the Fake News Awards that's coming up. I've got some

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Speaker 1: updates for you on the Fusion GPS investigation. Here's a

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Speaker 1: little teaser. You gotta stay with me through the second

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Speaker 1: hour for this one, though. Are we likely to find

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Speaker 1: out that and have roof? I mean, because I already

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Speaker 1: believe this analytically to be true. Are we the American

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Speaker 1: people going to have proof that the Fusion GPS dossier

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Speaker 1: was the basis? Was was the start of the pies

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Speaker 1: application and the counter intelligence investigation, the spying using the

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Speaker 1: United States government's intelligence apparatus and law enforcement, the spying

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Speaker 1: and the Trump administration. Did it all come from that

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Speaker 1: Fusion GPS dossier. I've got a guest who's gonna come on,

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Speaker 1: who knows details that are not yet public. She's reporting

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Speaker 1: on the next hour, or she says yes, yes, that

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Speaker 1: is likely to come out soon, to be provable soon

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear about that. To stay with me. That's

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Speaker 1: come up in the next hour. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: The President has been very consistent he does not want

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Speaker 1: to shut down, and he wants us to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and deal with the immigration issue. And yeah, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to hold our military men and women hostage. So

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Speaker 1: that was the message that he reaffirmed to me, uh

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Speaker 1: again just a few minutes ago. And it's all about

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Speaker 1: trying to make sure that we put up enough votes

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Speaker 1: here in the House, uh to do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: as of right now, there are not enough votes to

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Speaker 1: pass it on the House for but uh, discussions are

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Speaker 1: ongoing with leadership and hopefully we'll we'll get to a

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Speaker 1: path where we can send it over to the Senate

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Speaker 1: and let them, uh hopefully finish the job. That was

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Speaker 1: just moments ago from Capitol Hill. They're they're debating this.

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Speaker 1: They got the shutdown showdown in full effect. I wonder

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Speaker 1: it's going to go to the mat on this one.

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Speaker 1: This looks like it's very possible. Trump, by the way,

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Speaker 1: tweeted out recent the wall be paid for directly or

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Speaker 1: indirectly through much longer term reimbursement by Mexico, which has

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous seventy one billion dollar trade surplus with the US.

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Speaker 1: So he's saying it's gonna be paid kind of indirectly,

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna pay for all right. Well, we'll see

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Speaker 1: about that. Reggie in San Francisco. Hey, Reggie, UM, hi there,

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Speaker 1: I'm all right, Hi. Do you hear me? Sir? You

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Speaker 1: know I enjoy your show, and I do enjoy your analysis.

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Speaker 1: You provoke me into a lot of interesting mind thoughts.

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Speaker 1: But at some point, after one has got all the

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Speaker 1: information and the analysis, you're left with a simple fact

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Speaker 1: of what you do with it. And the bottom line

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Speaker 1: is our side, if I may say so, is incapable

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Speaker 1: of doing anything with it. And I don't mean the

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Speaker 1: people in Congress. I'm talking about the people who listen

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Speaker 1: to your show as I do. What are we really

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Speaker 1: willing to do to make sure we believe come to pass.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like one of your shields high stories.

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Speaker 1: We are outgunned, out maneuvered, maybe even numerically overwhelmed, and

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Speaker 1: yet we will do and say no thing except on

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Speaker 1: telephone like I am now calling talk radio. Well a

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Speaker 1: few things, Reggie, uh. And I understand the tendency toward

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Speaker 1: political despair sometimes because it does feel like, at least

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Speaker 1: in the recent path, that it's felt like Republicans can't

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Speaker 1: get anything done. But to be fair, the tax cuts

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Speaker 1: and some of the economic measures regulatory measures of the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration in year one are things that I believe

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Speaker 1: conservatives should be and most most are very pleased about.

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Speaker 1: And our political victories. And then that I under need

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Speaker 1: to remind you of Neil Gorstitch on the Supreme Court. Right,

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Speaker 1: there are some things to to be pleased about from

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Speaker 1: our political system over the last twelve months. On DOCTA,

641
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Speaker 1: though I agree with you it is a continuing frustration.

642
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Speaker 1: But the first step in doing anything about it is

643
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Speaker 1: to actually know what's really going on. Right, So this

644
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Speaker 1: is why I think it's important to get the information

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Speaker 1: out there so people understand. I mean, I think a

646
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Speaker 1: lot of conservatives even that I know on this, who

647
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Speaker 1: think they're very well informed we're in the media. When

648
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Speaker 1: I tell them things like it's never gonna just be

649
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand, they go, oh, my gosh, you're right.

650
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Speaker 1: They haven't thought about it that way. And these are

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Speaker 1: discussions I've had with people in recent weeks and in

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Speaker 1: terms of how you how you win, Uh, we we

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Speaker 1: do have the ability right now, we being people listening

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Speaker 1: to the show and anyone across the country to pressure

655
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Speaker 1: members of Congress to not cave on this. I think

656
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: we are at something of a tipping point here on immigration.

657
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Speaker 1: There is the opportunity for the Trump administration in I

658
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Speaker 1: keep wanting to say, to put in place measures that

659
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Speaker 1: would have an appreciable effect on illegal immigration and that

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Speaker 1: would deal with some of the problems the incentives of

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration going forward. But I'm not gonna pretend that

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Speaker 1: it's easy, Reggie, and I'm not gonna say that you're

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Speaker 1: wrong when you point out that a lot of Republicans

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Speaker 1: are just all talk on this issue. But remember talk

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Speaker 1: is all we can do and a representative to in

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Speaker 1: a in a representative republic when it comes to actual legislation, right,

667
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Speaker 1: we we can vote, we can talk, and we can

668
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Speaker 1: try to use the levers at our disposal as as citizens.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what we're doing. So don't just

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Speaker 1: spare yet, my friend. And in terms of shields, high

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Speaker 1: part of that means you fight even when you're gonna lose,

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Speaker 1: if the fight is worth fighting. So don't never forget

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Speaker 1: that one. Thanks for calling in. Uh, all right, we

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Speaker 1: got wow a lot of lines lip, but we gotta

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Speaker 1: roll into I was gonna say round to Ding ding Ding,

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Speaker 1: gotta run into our two in just a few moments here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We got a ton to talk about,

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Speaker 1: So just stay with me for it. He's back with

679
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Speaker 1: you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth,

680
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Speaker 1: the fuck never stops. Welcome back to the buck Section show.

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Speaker 1: We could have a shutdown, or in the midst of

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Speaker 1: the shut down showdown? Or are are we just seeing

683
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: a lot of political theater That's been my inclination all along.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the most likely situation here. I think

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Speaker 1: the the most probable outcome is that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: last minute Congress is like, Okay, just more funding, see

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Speaker 1: you later, and they just deal with it. They all

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Speaker 1: live to fight another day, so to speak. To pretend

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Speaker 1: that they're going to fight another day. That's possible. But

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Speaker 1: there's something else that's looming in the background of all

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Speaker 1: of this immigration reform DOCTA talk and border security and

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Speaker 1: all that. Seeing some reporting here about planned ice immigrations

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Speaker 1: and customs enforcement raids in northern California. Now California, I

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Speaker 1: know you all know that as the single biggest location

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Speaker 1: for illegal immigration, the single biggest state when it comes

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Speaker 1: to illegal immigrants, and California is also a sanctuary re

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Speaker 1: state now because of Governor Brown. It is a statewide

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Speaker 1: policy too not honor immigrations and Customs enforcement detainer requests.

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Speaker 1: And I'd be willing to bet they're pretty pretty lack

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Speaker 1: of daisical when it comes to passing along to the

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Speaker 1: federal government any information about the immigration status of any

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Speaker 1: of the individuals that they have in custody. So with that,

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Speaker 1: you have now a report or multiple reports out there

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Speaker 1: of major pending federal government raids meant to sweep up

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants in northern California in the San Francisco Bay area. Now,

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Speaker 1: this will undoubtedly en rage a whole lot of liberals,

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Speaker 1: no question about that. Will set California into a a

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Speaker 1: spiral of despair because they seem to think that federal

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Speaker 1: immigration law doesn't just doesn't really count and shouldn't really

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Speaker 1: be enforced, shouldn't be enforced at all. The reporting here

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Speaker 1: says that there will be a sweep of perhaps as

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Speaker 1: many as fift hundred immigration violators legal aliens that will

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Speaker 1: be that will be gathered arrested and gathered will be

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Speaker 1: arrested in this week, and there could also be what's

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Speaker 1: called collateral arrests where they immigrations off immigration enforcement officers.

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Speaker 1: If they find one illegal, guess what, and there's other

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Speaker 1: people there, they may say, well, are you know? Are

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Speaker 1: you illegal as well? And if they are, guess what,

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Speaker 1: they also may be deported. This is the administration if

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Speaker 1: they do this, and I think it's likely they will,

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Speaker 1: this would be the administration showing that one, this whole

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Speaker 1: state sanctuary policy is a form of lawlessness, and it's

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Speaker 1: and it's just not it's not right. It's undermining federal

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Speaker 1: prerogatives and the congressional ability to write the law right.

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Speaker 1: But also shows that they can step up enforcement. And

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Speaker 1: I wonder if we're going to get to a place

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Speaker 1: here where we have some local officials who go beyond,

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Speaker 1: who go beyond just the rhetorical back and forth over

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Speaker 1: sanctuary status to actually obstructing, obstructing the federal government's ability

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Speaker 1: two enforced immigration law. Now, this is from CBS affiliate

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco area, just hours after the Oakland City

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Speaker 1: Council voted to end any cooperation with agents from u S.

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Speaker 1: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Mayor Libby f I think or

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Speaker 1: scaff I don't know how you say that. Said Wednesday

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Speaker 1: she would go to jail if needed in her opposition

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Speaker 1: to ice raids quote, it is no surprise that the

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Speaker 1: bully in chief is continuing to try to intimidate our

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Speaker 1: most vulnerable residents. We're very referring to Trump. Obviously, We're

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Speaker 1: very clear that our values are to protect all of

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Speaker 1: our residents, regardless of where we come from. We want

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Speaker 1: to protect families, not tear them apart. Look at this

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Speaker 1: end quote there, But look at this dishonest language. So

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Speaker 1: I just want to know, does the Mayor of Oakland

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Speaker 1: then take the position that if someone were to fly

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Speaker 1: into San Francisco International Airport tomorrow and say, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm here on a tourist visa, actually I'm just gonna stay,

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Speaker 1: that there should be no cooperation with authorities whatsoever. Is

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Speaker 1: there just going to be no enforcement of immigration law?

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Speaker 1: All these people that like to grandstand on how much

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Speaker 1: we need to do for not just dreamers but illegal immigrants,

751
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Speaker 1: and how you know they're doing the jobs. Americans won't

752
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Speaker 1: do all this rhetoric you here. They should be forced

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Speaker 1: to ask the question, who doesn't get to stay? Other

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Speaker 1: than violent criminals. And even as we know from the

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Speaker 1: Kate Steinley case and others, even violent criminals don't necessarily

756
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Speaker 1: get kept out of the country based on these immigration

757
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Speaker 1: policies that or sanctuary city policies rather that are in place.

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Speaker 1: So as we look at this now, I just want

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Speaker 1: to I just wonder will they go to the level

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Speaker 1: of obstructing Will they nullify federal immigration law. It is

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Speaker 1: on the books right now. There are statutes in place,

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Speaker 1: as I have told you, where Congress mandates local law

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Speaker 1: enforcement has to inform the federal government about the immigration

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Speaker 1: status of people in custody. That is a federal law.

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Speaker 1: And you know that if they're just going to ignore that,

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Speaker 1: and I think we make it the point where some

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Speaker 1: of them do, and we find that out, then what

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Speaker 1: do we do. You're gonna have local politicians and at

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Speaker 1: the direction of well senior police brass right, the commissioner

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Speaker 1: and others in these different sanctuary jurisdictions undermining federal law.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna That's a pretty scary place for

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Speaker 1: us to go as a country, isn't it. That is

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Speaker 1: not going to lead two good things. But there's really

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00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: no principle behind this, it's just a lot of emotional

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Speaker 1: impulses masquerading as ethical arguments. Look, I I wish that

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Speaker 1: there would be no ill effects to this country of

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Speaker 1: completely opening our doors and saying, anyone who wants to

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Speaker 1: come here, just show up. I wish that were the case.

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Speaker 1: It would be nice if there were no downside of

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Speaker 1: that whatsoever. Right, if we could, if we could just

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Speaker 1: turn America into you know, Noah's Ark for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the planet. Anybody who wants to come, We'll save you,

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Speaker 1: come here. That would be nice in theory, but it

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Speaker 1: would cease to be America. So that's a big problem.

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Speaker 1: That's a big problem for me. It also has a

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Speaker 1: big problem with regard to what it would do to

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Speaker 1: our economy, the entitlements that we are already are having

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Speaker 1: trouble paying for, and the political character of this nation,

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Speaker 1: which is based upon a culture that is perpetuated by

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Speaker 1: the people who are here, and assimilation necessitates there to

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Speaker 1: be a much greater proportion of us, meaning Americans of

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Speaker 1: all different backgrounds and everything else. Then new arrivals, if

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Speaker 1: you have too many arrivals, new arrivals too quickly, and

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Speaker 1: if they are not assimilating to the dominant political and

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Speaker 1: rule of law culture, the character of the country starts

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Speaker 1: to change. This we see it happening in Europe, and

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Speaker 1: it has happened elsewhere. In fact, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: talking to you, those of you who listened to the

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Speaker 1: show the Shields High podcast on Monday. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: Constantinople and the character of the entire Orthodox Christian world

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Speaker 1: was changed by yes, conquests, but but by immigration as well,

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Speaker 1: meaning by the population flows of different people. You had

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Speaker 1: Eastern Orthodox Christians who over time were supplanted by the

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Speaker 1: Turks Solgia Turks and then later the Ottomans, the Turkic

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Speaker 1: tribe named for Osmond. But this is all stuff you'll

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Speaker 1: hear on the podcast. I don't want to get too

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Speaker 1: much into it now, but Turkey for the last thousand

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Speaker 1: years or so has been a very different place than

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Speaker 1: it was for the thousand years before that in terms

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Speaker 1: of who's there and how it functions, and what the

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Speaker 1: religion is and what the state is. Right. I know

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Speaker 1: that reaching back, maybe into antiquity, doesn't seem like the

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Speaker 1: most urgent form of making this an argument, but it

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Speaker 1: is true. A country is just an idea, really it's

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Speaker 1: an idea and it is forced based upon that idea.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we all agree on by nature, and it's

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Speaker 1: a construct too. Right, there's nothing about America. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: about America that makes it what it is other than

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Speaker 1: the people who are here. Other than that, it's just

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of land, some natural resources, great

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Speaker 1: and all that, but because of what we collectively believe

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Speaker 1: and what we buy into by virtue of our obligations

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Speaker 1: to the state, and more importantly are the state's obligations

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Speaker 1: to us. And that's really the basis of all this,

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Speaker 1: and the individual coming before anything and all else in

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Speaker 1: the law that's at risk when you all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden abandon not just the rule of law, but abandon

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Speaker 1: the notion that the society has the right to and

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Speaker 1: I would even argue the obligation to continue. It's up

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Speaker 1: to perpetuate itself when you just allow massive influx and

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Speaker 1: inflow of outside I've been looking at people on the left.

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Speaker 1: I'd want to ask them, did the country change with

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Speaker 1: the European with the European colonization of America at the

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Speaker 1: expensive native Americans? Was it a very different place? I mean,

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Speaker 1: at some level we all agree that immigration changes the place.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that immigration is bad or we

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Speaker 1: should get rid of all immigration at all. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying that controlled immigration is a necessity in the modern world,

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Speaker 1: and controlled immigration has actually been the standard that the

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Speaker 1: history of the United States has been. We're letting immigrants in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna stop for a while. This whole give me

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Speaker 1: your tired, your poor, your week, you know, battered shores,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff poem attached the Statue of Liberty. That's

844
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Speaker 1: actually not US immigration policy, and all that stuff came

845
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: before you could come here and say, all right, now

846
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Speaker 1: that I get to stay, where's my check? Where the

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Speaker 1: doctors that are being told that somebody else will pay

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Speaker 1: the bill but they have to treat me? Where's my

849
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: housing voucher? You know, you didn't have a lot of

850
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: that in the eighteenth and nineteenth century. Right that this

851
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Speaker 1: is all new and different, isn't it. But even still

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Speaker 1: there is a political existential question about a country that

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Speaker 1: can't enforced borders and does not have the sovereignty to

854
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: say who can come and go. And if the argument

855
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: is just going to devolve into people will cry if

856
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: you don't let this person stay, then everybody gets to stay.

857
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: And telling me, oh, no, mass murderers will deport them

858
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: is not dealing with the real issue. Eight four four

859
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Speaker 1: eight to five, eight four four, nine hundred. Buck. We'll

860
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Speaker 1: get into some other stuff coming up here, But I

861
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: just I think this immigration issue so important, and I

862
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: hear very few voices out there that are really and

863
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: I read very few people that are really getting into this.

864
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: We're kind of drifted along here and just hoping Republicans

865
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: will do the right thing. And with the GOP. Hope

866
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: is hope is not a strategy, as you all know.

867
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Speaker 1: All right, quick break, we'll be right back. Fake news

868
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: better running high because the Buck Sexton Show is back.

869
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: As I said to you, this is this is why

870
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: get um bowl of doggie do put a cherry on

871
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: top and call it a chocolate Sunday. This is nothing.

872
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: This is that you know, the chip is this chip

873
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: should have been done in September. It's a bowl of

874
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: dog eat, Dolosi says. So you know, this is the

875
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: this is the way they devercrats play the game. We'll

876
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: talk more about this later. We're gonna have Guy Benson

877
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: on to get into some of the particulars of where

878
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: the debate with Republicans Downmocrats on the real on the

879
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: debt ceiling or the continuing resolution, all the same thing

880
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: where that stands. Uh. But the Republicans are saying they

881
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: want to reauthorize the Children's Health Interns program for six years, okay,

882
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: and Democrats were like no, no, no, no no, and

883
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: then they got a little heat for it. So now

884
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: they're saying, no, no, we want it for ten years.

885
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean six years is pretty good, what what you know?

886
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: But that's because they had to find out a way

887
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: to try to regret regain the moral preening high ground

888
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: from Republicans on that. But it's like it's like how

889
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: they dog do with the cherry on it? Dog do? Uh?

890
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: Jamie and Lakeland, Florida. What's going on? Jamie B I

891
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: have a question for you, uh with this shut down

892
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: and everything. Um, two things. One that it's only funding

893
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: for four weeks that we're trying to get an extension for.

894
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: And to that's the president cam a sign which alien

895
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: is in the federal government are to be paid versus

896
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 1: not paid. And if that is the actual case, why

897
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: can't he just say okay, no, Senator now presentative, nobody

898
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: gets paid until you all figure this out. And why

899
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: would we be paying for years and years and years

900
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: and years of these people if it's only a week extension. Okay,

901
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: a few things, I um, I mean the senator, I mean,

902
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: the Congress is in charge of appropriation, So we're talking

903
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: about who's getting paid within the executive branch. Money that's

904
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: already been appropriated would be distributed via executive branch guideline,

905
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: I assume, But you need the Congress has to say, well,

906
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: this is actually the money to run the executive branch,

907
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: and they will have understatute run out of money is

908
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: of midnight Friday. And as why don't they stop their

909
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: pay on that, let's say, with a whole bunch of

910
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: money until they straighten this out. Well, I think they

911
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: are going to straighten it out, so to speak, Jamie.

912
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: They're just gonna say, Okay, we raised it by everybody.

913
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: We'll see you in a month and we'll be here

914
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: all over again. And it's unfortunate because this kind of

915
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: brinksmanship doesn't doesn't really get anything done from a policy perspective,

916
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: other than just more of what we're already seeing here.

917
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: And I would note that there's not really you know,

918
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: there's not really gonna be much room between now and

919
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: the mid terms to have a substantive national policy discussion

920
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: when we're all this blah blah blah, they're not going

921
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: to fund the government, and you know, it's just it's

922
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: a lot of shiny bright objects and distractions when we're

923
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: not actually dealing with the core issues of immigration. But Jamie,

924
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: I do appreciate I appreciate you calling and thank you.

925
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: Um Mark in Mansfield, Massachusetts. Hey, Mark, Then with your

926
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: oss fact, I remember the story where you told about

927
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: how the crowd gathered. I think it was Man in

928
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: the Moon where basically the birth of Team Bucks. So

929
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I go back that far. Oh wow, original Saturday Squad

930
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: and you remember the Man in the Moon story. Yeah,

931
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty cool. You know. I'll tell

932
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: you that my now boss, who is the head the

933
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: president of Premiere Radio Networks, was present at Man in

934
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: the Moon and saw yep, she was there because she's

935
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: Glen's boss too for for radio and she was present

936
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: for Man in the Moon and saw all these people,

937
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: these red T shirts with this little Soviet bear with

938
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Speaker 1: a vodka bottle on an a k forty seven, Commy

939
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: bear on it, who I will bring back? I just

940
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: it's I keep saying that I know it will happen, though,

941
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: I just very got a lot of juggling to do

942
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: these days. But she saw that I was kind of like,

943
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 1: what's going on here? And that was the first time,

944
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: as far as I understand that she ever heard about

945
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: this character named Buck Sexon and commy bear of course,

946
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: but hey, Buck, you know, just as uh kick it

947
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: off something he said though a few minutes ago. The

948
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: thing that burns me up is that, Okay, so yeah,

949
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: they have the filibuster, but isn't that why we have

950
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: the nuclear option and reconciliation. I mean, the Democrats when

951
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: they have the upper hand, they would fight a guy

952
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair with the sledge hammer, not apologize because

953
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: the end justifies the means. Why can't these handling note

954
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: toes just say, look, we're happy to get this done

955
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: now when we're in position to do it, which is passed,

956
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: if so be it reconciliation here. It's a great it's

957
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: a great question, and it's one that I returned too often,

958
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: which is, why is it that that there's always this

959
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: concern among Republicans that some Republicans will break off inside

960
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: with the damns on major legislation. You go back to

961
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: the Obama administration, you go back to Obamacare. I mean

962
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: really from from the place of legislation, seismic movement in

963
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: the legislative corridors and Democrats were in lockstep with each other.

964
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: You know, they move like say what you will about them.

965
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: They are the boorg from Star Trek. They are they

966
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: are agents Smith from the matrix. They moved together, they

967
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: work together. They get it done. Republicans, you know, you

968
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: gotta deal with half baked Flake and the whole rest

969
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: of the you know, the surrender Caucus, Graham and McCain,

970
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: these and these guys who are worried about you know, uh,

971
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: bad write ups of the New York Times editorial page.

972
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna pillary them anyways, no matter how how much

973
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: they capitulate to the to the left, and it doesn't matter,

974
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: they're still gonna get They're still gonna get card and feathered.

975
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: And they just have to get over the fact that,

976
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, they're getting it done and looking good in

977
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: the eyes of media. I mean, it's just yeah, they're

978
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to take a lot of a lot of heat.

979
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: And they also some of them are gonna have to

980
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: take votes that may Hey, Mark Oss, great to talk

981
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: to you, buddy. Some of them gonna have to take

982
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: votes that could pose problems for them in a in

983
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: an election. And that's the last thing any Republican, regularly

984
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: republic and so called moderates want to do. Appreciate that

985
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: we've got so many lines let here. Everybody wants to

986
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: talk about the subject, and I certainly do too. So uh,

987
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: we'll get into more of this coming up here in

988
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: just a few moments. Also our friend Sarah Carter with

989
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: whether or not are we gonna get proof that the

990
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: dossier was the beginning of this huge political dirty trick

991
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: known as the Russia collusion investigation. She's got an answer

992
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: in just a few minutes. Welcome back, everybody. The the

993
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: investigation over Russia Trump collusion and the dossier and fusion GPS,

994
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: all of that continues to grind on some days top

995
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: of the news cycle, others more in the background. We've

996
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: got somebody on now who has been breaking huge stories

997
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: on this for a year now. We've got Sarah Carter

998
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: with this. She is a contributor on Fox News. You guys,

999
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: I'll see her on Sean Hannity Show frequently. She's also

1000
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: a top investigative journalist and a buddy of mine. Sarah,

1001
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: great to have you on. It's great to be on

1002
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: with you. But lots have happened today. Yeah, tell me

1003
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: what's going on with the dossier and and where this

1004
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: is all heading right now with Fusion, GPS, Glenn Simpson

1005
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: and these investigations. Yeah. Well, on Thursday, actually today, I mean,

1006
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: the House Intelligence Committee voted to make their fight abuse

1007
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: report public to all of the House members, so they

1008
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: were able to investigate this, uh and and look at

1009
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: it for themselves. So remember, for the last year, the

1010
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: House Intelligence Committee was collecting information and actually putting together

1011
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: a report on what they saw as extensive abuse both

1012
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: within the d o J and within the FBI with

1013
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: regards to the FISA. And what I can tell you

1014
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: now is that, according to government officials that I've spoken

1015
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: with people who have been able to review the report,

1016
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: the abuse with regard to the dossier and the fight

1017
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: A warrants was so extensive and so profound that they

1018
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: want to make it public to the American people, I mean,

1019
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: and they're asking for that as soon as possible, Sarah.

1020
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Speaker 1: That would seem to indicate there's at least a possibility

1021
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: that if that information about the dossier, which many of

1022
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: us I've been saying this just from an analytic perspective

1023
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: for months now. Any McCarthy over Nashal Review has been

1024
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: saying this and others, it looks very possible, if not likely,

1025
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: that the dossier may have been used as a pretext

1026
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: for abuse of FISA to spy on the Trump presidential campaign.

1027
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: Are we getting indications right now that that could be

1028
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: I know you haven't seen it that could be contained

1029
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: in this report. Absolutely. I can tell you from Kam

1030
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: to sources and stories that I've read recently published Buck

1031
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: that the fis a part of the FICE A warrant

1032
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: was based on the dossier um which has not been verified.

1033
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Speaker 1: We even know from Glenn Simpson's testimony that they never

1034
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: even verified it as the owner of Fusion GPS, remember

1035
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: the controversial research firm that was hired by the Hillary

1036
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Clinton campaign and the d n C to basically uh

1037
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: conduct an investigation into Trump and Russia. And so what

1038
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: we're seeing now is that there's they've taken one step

1039
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: move one step closer to making this public by making

1040
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: it available to the House members. Now, the House members

1041
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: are bound by this classified nature of the document that

1042
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Speaker 1: they reviewed. But I've spoken to UH Congressman Gates, who

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Speaker 1: would actually uh, just moments ago, who actually said that

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Speaker 1: it has not it is not only solidified what he

1045
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: has previously said that he believes this was such an

1046
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: extensive abuse of power to actually remove a president, but

1047
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: it's it's taken it one step further, and he has

1048
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: called for the immediate release of this documentation to be

1049
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: declassified for the public. I've also spoken to over other

1050
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Speaker 1: government officials who have told me, look, once this goes public,

1051
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: we can move forward with what we need to do

1052
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: to remove the people who were involved in this out

1053
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Speaker 1: of government, and that means people being fired at the FBI,

1054
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Speaker 1: people being fired at the d o J, and possibly

1055
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Speaker 1: even criminal charges. We're speaking to Sarah Carter. She's a

1056
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Speaker 1: Fox News contributor and investigative journalists. Sarah, there was a

1057
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Speaker 1: defense of sorts published by David Ignatius in the Washington Post,

1058
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Speaker 1: and he was defending the FBI, which a lot of

1059
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: members of the press seemed to be spending time doing

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Speaker 1: now and they have never done it before, and trying

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Speaker 1: to shoot down the notion that the dossier played any

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Speaker 1: role in the FIZO warrant or any any of the

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Speaker 1: counterintelligence investigation and surveillance of the Trump team and his

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Speaker 1: defense seemed to me to be full of holes. And

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Speaker 1: it also looks like the FBI is running out of excuses.

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Speaker 1: They've been stonewalling for a while. The d o J

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Speaker 1: is going to have to disclose information that they haven't

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Speaker 1: wanted to in the past. You just alluded to this

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Speaker 1: a moment ago. There must still be people then in

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Speaker 1: government that know a lot about what happened here and

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Speaker 1: may have been involved in some of the bad stuff

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Speaker 1: we've been thinking happened. Yeah, and that's what's so unfortunate right. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: the truth is coming out slowly, but surely after a year.

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Speaker 1: I read David Ignatius is peace. Um. I know him.

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Speaker 1: I've known him in the past. Of course, we're running

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Speaker 1: similar circles here in Washington. Sometimes. He's a brilliant writer.

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Speaker 1: I think that, however, there was so much emphasis from

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Speaker 1: the media for so long to try to prove a

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Speaker 1: Russia collusion narrative that they were blinded by the facts

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Speaker 1: that were right before their face. When I spoke to

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Speaker 1: another government official about this, this particular question, they said,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in the media are going to

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Speaker 1: have egg on their face when this information is made public,

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Speaker 1: and and that's unfortunate. I think the most important thing

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Speaker 1: for us to do as journalists is to look at

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Speaker 1: all the facts. And you know, even the fact I

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Speaker 1: know David Ignatius wrote a lot about Christopher Steele that

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Speaker 1: has worked with am I X, the British Intelligence Agency,

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Speaker 1: was well known that he had basically covered Russia for

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Speaker 1: most of his career. Uh So there were some things.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we don't want to dismiss that. We want

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Speaker 1: to look at all the facts. But there has never

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Speaker 1: been one fact in that dossier other than the fact

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Speaker 1: that Carter Page went to Moscow, other than the fact

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Speaker 1: that Vladimir Putin really didn't like Hillary Clinton, both of

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Speaker 1: which is open source information. There was never anything in

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Speaker 1: that dossier that the FBI could come out to Congress

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Speaker 1: and say, look, this is a provable fact. Let's make

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Speaker 1: this available to the public, and neither In Congress. Senator

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Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein was asked the question, um Adam Schiff, of course,

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Speaker 1: takes his own direction but I remember Senator Finstein very

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Speaker 1: clearly stated on numerous occasions she never saw anything in

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Speaker 1: that dossier that was verified. So there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot more questions than answers, buck when it comes to

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Speaker 1: this dossier, and a lot of people are going to

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Speaker 1: have to ask themselves, you know, what was my role

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Speaker 1: in this? Was there disinformation in this dossier that was

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Speaker 1: being said to the media and being spread Because this

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Speaker 1: is not just a national issue for us as Americans,

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Speaker 1: this is a global issue because it affected the whole

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Speaker 1: first year of Trump's presidency. Another good point to make

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Speaker 1: is that after the people reviewed this, House members have

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Speaker 1: gone into a skiff to review this classified information, they

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Speaker 1: actually said they won't even see why there is a

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Speaker 1: need for the Special Counsel to continue its investigation after

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Speaker 1: this has made public. So that's very interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: I am desperate to see these documents reform uh and

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping as I've been told that by the end

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Speaker 1: of the month this will be made public. Is there

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Speaker 1: any is there any future in which we could think

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Speaker 1: that or that the theoretically this stuff could all just

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Speaker 1: be kept under wraps, or are we going to get

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Speaker 1: some transparency here? I think we are going to get

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Speaker 1: transparency here. I have been told that they are moving

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Speaker 1: in that direction. Um. You know, the majority voted on

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Speaker 1: party lines today, I mean on the party line, the

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Speaker 1: Republican majority, to to make this available to all House members.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Democrats voted against it. Um. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, for good reason. They probably don't want this

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Speaker 1: to get out to the public. It kind of squashes

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Speaker 1: the narrative that they've been pushing forward. Uh. And and

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Speaker 1: so I believe that there is going to be another

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Speaker 1: push to make this public. It will become public, and

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Speaker 1: I think it will show not only exonerate that, you know,

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Speaker 1: people like Devin Nuniz who were really under the sum

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Speaker 1: of the media for so long. Uh, but it will

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Speaker 1: show what's been happening inside our government. More importantly, what

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Speaker 1: we need to do to change that so it doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen again. Zarah Carter, investigative journalists and Foxes contributed. Real quick, sir,

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Speaker 1: your next piece, Can you give us a preview or

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Speaker 1: is it super top secret? Oh no, I just gave

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of the preview right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: one of the few people that knows how extensive the

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Speaker 1: concern is among members of Congress after reviewing this classified report,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be posting something shortly on that, and people

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: can go to Sarah Carter dot com to read my story.

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Speaker 1: And of course I'll be on Fox Youth tonight on

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show, and we'll be discussing that as well.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter. Everybody, Sarah, keep doing what you're doing. You're

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Speaker 1: the best. Thanks so much for making the time. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Buck. Anytime we're gonna roll into a quick break,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Stalin is the second most dangerous

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Speaker 1: person in the twentieth century. He killed more people than

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Speaker 1: anyone except mousyn Um. To compare him to an American

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Speaker 1: president is such an absurdity that Centator Flight probably could

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Speaker 1: get a job and that CNN or somewhere else as

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: a reporter because this whole Trump derangement syndrome. Trump just

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: seems to have this effect on people. The fact is,

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01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: nothing Trump has said is particularly stronger about the press

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Speaker 1: than things that Lincoln would have said, things that FDR

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Speaker 1: would have said, things that Ronald Reagan would have said,

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Speaker 1: uh strong. Presidents often get really angry when they have

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Speaker 1: reporters who they think are being an accurate or prejudiced

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01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: or unfair. I gotta agree with the former Speaker gig

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Speaker 1: rig here because I said it yesterday. He was all

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Speaker 1: last night after the show. I mean, half baked flake

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Speaker 1: really needs to get a grip. Yeah, it's like he's Stalin.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just so upset at how Trump he's

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Speaker 1: destroying America because he's like Stalin. Uh No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: And anybody with any grasp of history history would say

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Speaker 1: that that's completely insane. Well, I got some breaking news

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Speaker 1: for you. One that's always fun to break news on

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01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 1: the show here with you. Uh I see this courtesy

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: of Ainsley Earhart over at Fox News. House passes short

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Speaker 1: term spending bill to avoid government shutdown. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna avoid it. I think they're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 1: avoid shut down. They're just gonna say, all right, right,

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Speaker 1: I got an idea, let's just let's just do this,

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Speaker 1: let's pay the bills, let's all go home. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna they're not gonna fight over this one. Um. But

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Speaker 1: now keep in mind, it only means that they push

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Speaker 1: this down the push this down the road for four weeks.

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Speaker 1: But it is yet another instance of assuming that it

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Speaker 1: happens that way, another instance of the theater of d

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Speaker 1: c first and foremost over taking any real action. And

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Speaker 1: I am not going to be surprised at all if if,

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Speaker 1: in fact we find out that they were just oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I said, remember yesterday, they've been the bar hold

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Speaker 1: me back, hold me back. I want a piece of

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Speaker 1: that guy. You only say that when you've got like

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Speaker 1: four people pulling you away right then, and then everybody's

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Speaker 1: a hero. That's kind of like the Democrats and the

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Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress right now. There's not really much beyond that.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of fighting and fighters, I was I was

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Speaker 1: happy he had Lindsay Lindsey Graham, who not so good

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Speaker 1: on immigration lately, but at least he's willing to stand

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Speaker 1: up for Trump on this one. You could be dark

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Speaker 1: as charcoal and lily white, it doesn't matter as long

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Speaker 1: as you're nice to You could be the Pope and

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Speaker 1: criticize him. It doesn't matter. He'll go after the Pope.

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Speaker 1: He's a street fighter. It's not the color of your

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Speaker 1: skin that matters. It's not the content of your character.

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Speaker 1: That's whether or not you show him respect and like

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: him and if he feels like you're all script, you

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: don't like him, he punches back, and as president of

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Speaker 1: the United States, the only advice I can give you

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Speaker 1: is at the street fights over. I'm sorry, I thought

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Speaker 1: he was defending him there. I just read that clip.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of like, it's kind of a backhanded

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Speaker 1: defense of Trump. He saying he's not a racist, which

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Speaker 1: is not, but he's also a street fighter. Needs to

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Speaker 1: stop being a street fighter. Wrong, wrong, wrong, Lindsey Graham.

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Speaker 1: The moment Trump stops being a street fighter, it's all over.

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Speaker 1: The moment Trump is like, yeah, you know, let's just

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Speaker 1: let that. Let's let's see an n MSNBC in the

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Speaker 1: New York Times, run the news cycle however they want.

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Speaker 1: Let's let them present the facts of the public with

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Speaker 1: the spin that they want, and and not take the

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Speaker 1: fight to them in the way that we have been

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Speaker 1: in this administration so far. It's all over. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look what the media did to George W. Bush. You

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: remember that they just hobbled that presidency. They did everything

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Speaker 1: they could to convince the public that the big story

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Speaker 1: they ran with forever was that George Bush was so dumb.

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Speaker 1: He was so dumb. That's what they were always saying

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Speaker 1: became his big national joke. He's so dumb. I I

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Speaker 1: spoke the man on several occasions, not dumb at all.

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Speaker 1: But they that was the big like the big myth

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Speaker 1: now is Russia collusion the big myth under the Bush

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Speaker 1: administrations that Bush was so dumb. But Bush wasn't a

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Speaker 1: fighter the way that you know. Bush tried to be

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Speaker 1: a gentleman most of the time. Occasionally he let it

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Speaker 1: fly a little bit, had some salty comments, but he

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Speaker 1: tried to be a gentleman. And they did not reward

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Speaker 1: him for that at all. They did not give him

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Speaker 1: any grace, any grace, period, any anything for that. They

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Speaker 1: they went after him with everything that they could, no

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Speaker 1: matter what it did to the country. And as you know,

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Speaker 1: it was during a time of real imminent peril for us,

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Speaker 1: the time of war. I completely disagree. I'm again, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I had I had misread the the verbate, the little

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Speaker 1: transcripront of that. Lindsay guy was like, oh, look, Lindsey

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Speaker 1: Graham stand up for Trump saying he's not a racist. Yeah,

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: he said he's not a racist. But Any went on

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Speaker 1: to say that, you know, he only likes people who

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Speaker 1: are nice to him, which I kind of understand. That's

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Speaker 1: the thing about Trump. You know what, what you see

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: is what you get, and that's really refreshing. I think

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Speaker 1: he gave a great speech today in Pennsylvania too. He

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Speaker 1: did a really good job with it, and I am

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Speaker 1: I am so sick of And this is maybe a

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Speaker 1: bit of a digression. We'll come back to. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: give you an update here on all of the shutdown

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Speaker 1: drama in just a few moments. Your wife Guy Benson

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Speaker 1: joining with the latest. Tell us what's going on there

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Speaker 1: in the world of politics. But just I've I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of Americans feel this way. We're also sick

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: of listening to politicians give speeches where they they all

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01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: think they're like the second coming of Cicero, and they're

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Speaker 1: all making the same hackneyed, uh you know, hackneyed allusions

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Speaker 1: to the speeches of of Kennedy and Churchill and Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: and you know, speaking about issues in the same way,

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Speaker 1: the same kinds of poll tested inoffensive commentary that's not

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Speaker 1: going to really, you know, rattle anyone's cage. And it's

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Speaker 1: just it's not just boring, it's worthless. After a while,

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Speaker 1: and we had so much of it, and you saw

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Speaker 1: the the opposite into the spectrum with with Obama speeches

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Speaker 1: where he would say the most platitudinous nonsense, the most

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Speaker 1: the most worthless uh blather from President Obama in the

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Speaker 1: form of a speech, and people say, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's brilliant. And with Trump will be like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: America is a great country, and I love this place,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do great things, and I really want

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Speaker 1: to help the American worker, and we're going to really

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Speaker 1: hold the government to results, and we're not gonna overspend,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna overregulate. And and the media is like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's stolen and they wonder why we

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Speaker 1: don't trust them. And you know, keep in mind that

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Speaker 1: the generation that controls the media right now are the

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Speaker 1: same people that really broke the trust right that the

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Speaker 1: top echelon, so to speak, of the mainstream media, on

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Speaker 1: the executive and the quote talent and quote side of it,

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Speaker 1: people that are on TV and they have the big

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Speaker 1: platforms and the newspapers and everything else, they were the

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Speaker 1: ones that just that really destroyed the trust that American

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Speaker 1: people have in a in the notion of a nonpartist

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Speaker 1: the media during the Clinton administration, and that's why. And

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Speaker 1: so now they've just made their way up the ranks

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Speaker 1: and they're running things. They're getting paid these big fat

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Speaker 1: salaries because the legacy institutions and media that they work for.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I love the Fox News is running

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Speaker 1: a a Lewinsky seven parts series, I think starting this Sunday,

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Speaker 1: just a little reminder for everybody as we go into

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Speaker 1: all this this, a little reminder that they they did

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Speaker 1: all this right, they said all this in motion. You know.

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Speaker 1: You can say that Trump is a response to the

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Speaker 1: Obama years, and that's certainly true. But in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, Trump is a response to the media's complicity

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Speaker 1: to borrow were the left likes to throw around in

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Speaker 1: the Clinton years and in the Clinton administration, and what

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Speaker 1: they were willing to do, the subversion of the truth

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Speaker 1: for a political agenda as a collective effort of the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media. Clinton was when they did that in a

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01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: way that was so blatant, and that we could know

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: about it and do her on research because the Internet. Yeah,

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: so thank heavens for all that. At least there's more

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Speaker 1: truth getting out now. So it looks like the how

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: House House is put forward to spending bill. So there

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Speaker 1: you go, and we're gonna talk to Guy Benson here

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: in just a few minutes about what that means and

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Speaker 1: what it's looking like in the in the shutdown, showdown,

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Speaker 1: the finels, shutdown. Uh, And then also going to be

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Speaker 1: talking to you about, oh, another another media disparity thing,

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: just because we're having some fun with that today, Hillary's

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01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: health versus Trump's health, as in how the media viewed

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01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: one story how they view the other story. Here's a hint.

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: One of them is like not fair game at all,

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Speaker 1: and the other one is the most interesting story since

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Speaker 1: Watergate for a few days. I'm sure you can guess which,

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Speaker 1: But stay with me for that. Everyone, the shutdown looms,

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Speaker 1: What can we expect, What is the latest on all this,

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Speaker 1: and what would it mean? We have Guy Benson with

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Speaker 1: us now. He is the politics editor at town hall

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Speaker 1: dot com, also a Fox News contributor. Great to talk

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Speaker 1: to you, happy Hey, how are you happy? New Year?

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01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good man. Tell me what is going

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Speaker 1: on with this shutdown showdown? Well, just moments ago, when

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01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: we were taping this interview, NBC News put out a

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01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: tweet quoting senior Democrats who were bragging that they have

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: the votes to shut down the government prevent the Republicans

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Speaker 1: from passing a bill to keep the government open um.

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Speaker 1: So there are some apparent issues potentially on the House side.

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Speaker 1: Mark Meadows and the Freedom Caucus are saying that they

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Speaker 1: might have enough votes to block the Republican majority from

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Speaker 1: passing the short term Continuing Resolution, which also would include

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Speaker 1: a six year extension of the Children's Healthcare Program CHIP,

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01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: but House leadership saying that they do have the votes

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Speaker 1: to pass it with only Republican votes. Democrats are all

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01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: lining up to vote no because they're trying to make

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: republicans lives as difficult as possible. Uh, Mitch McConnell does

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01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: not have fifty votes yet among his own caucus for

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Speaker 1: a continuing resolution um. The math there is complicated by

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Speaker 1: the fact that John McCain is also not in the

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Speaker 1: Senate because he's at home trying to fight his his sickness.

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Speaker 1: So at the moment you have some questions on the

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Speaker 1: Republican side, and then Democrats sort of leafully out of

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Speaker 1: one side of their mouth blaming Republicans, saying Republicans control

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Speaker 1: both Houses of Congress. How can they blame us and

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01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: then out of the other side of their mouth boasting

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Speaker 1: two reporters that they have the votes to filibuster a

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Speaker 1: bill and block um a spending bill that would keep

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Speaker 1: the government open. So um. The the outcome of this

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01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: remains unclear. I think that there are plenty of people

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,440
Speaker 1: on both sides who don't want to see a shutdown.

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Speaker 1: But we do a lot of brinksmanship in Washington, d c.

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Speaker 1: And seems like governing by chaos and crisis is kind

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01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: of become the norm. And here we are again, Guy forever,

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Speaker 1: nobody listening the mechanics of this, the parliamentary procedure aspect

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: of what's going on here. I mean, I know I've

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01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: been getting emails some folks saying, hold on a second.

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Speaker 1: Republicans have the majority in the House, they have the

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Speaker 1: majority in the Senate, obviously the White House with Trump.

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Speaker 1: Why is this so hard? And I want to pose

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Speaker 1: that question you and in terms of getting the votes

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Speaker 1: philipbuster and what are the different ways that this can

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Speaker 1: you hit the rocks? Well, just procedurally, if the Republicans

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Speaker 1: so that the Democrats in the House, their only power

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01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: really is to jam up the Republican majority. So what

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Speaker 1: they've decided is that they're going to vote en Moss

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Speaker 1: against a government spending bill that does not do the

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Speaker 1: things that Democrats want and including, by the way, that

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Speaker 1: would extend ship for six years, something that Democrats have

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01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: been screaming about. This would be a long term extension.

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Speaker 1: They want to vote against it because DACA and other

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Speaker 1: things that ancillary issues. So the way it could get

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Speaker 1: jammed up in the House is if the Democrats lockstep

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Speaker 1: no votes plus an dissatisfied Republicans, potentially the right wing

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: contingent of the Freedom Caucus, who are saying we don't

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01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: want to do a short term thing. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to um give away as much as we're giving away.

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Speaker 1: That could add up to problems for Paul Ryan to

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Speaker 1: wield a functioning majority. So that's one way that But

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Speaker 1: so that they only need fifty one in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: right and they just have to pass in the House. No,

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Speaker 1: it's filibuster avole if that's a word in the Senate, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Absent a filibuster, they would only

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Speaker 1: technically need fifty one, but it can be filibuster if

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Speaker 1: they don't get to Yeah. And and the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: saying now they're out there telling NBC News and other reporters,

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Speaker 1: we have the votes to block sixty they're they're basically

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Speaker 1: saying they can filibuster the bill. Um. They have the

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Speaker 1: forty one votes that they need to filibuster the Republican

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Speaker 1: spending bill UM that would keep the government open. So

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Speaker 1: those are the two ways that could get blocked if

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Speaker 1: the Republican majority in the House has enough Republicans breaking

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Speaker 1: off for different reasons obviously than the Democrats, so they

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Speaker 1: don't have a majority in favor of the spending measure,

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Speaker 1: which is still temporary anyway. Um. And then if the

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Speaker 1: Democrats decide to filibuster in the Senate, which they are

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Speaker 1: now not only threatening to do, they are saying they

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Speaker 1: have the votes to do it, while also saying it's

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Speaker 1: the Republicans faults. So they could fall short of the

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01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: majority that they need or they could get filibustered. So

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Speaker 1: there are two pitfalls here that Republicans could have trying

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Speaker 1: to keep the government open, assuming that that is their goal. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're speaking of Guy Bens and everybody Politics editor at

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Speaker 1: town hall dot com and check out his latest at

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Speaker 1: town hall dot com. Also, you see him on Fox

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01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: News all the time. Guy. Uh, the Chip program? Can

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Speaker 1: you tell everybody, how does that factor into this children's

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01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: health insurance program? Yeah, it's the kids health program. That's

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan program, has been authorized and renewed for many

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01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: years as a bipartisan consensus. Um. There have been argument

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Speaker 1: over the last number of months about how to fund it,

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01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: how to extend it, where the money comes from. Republicans

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01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 1: in the House have voted a number of times to

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Speaker 1: extend it for years, and the Democrats always vote no

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Speaker 1: because they don't like the way it's paid for. UM.

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: And so what the Republicans are doing here is saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we want to do a short term spending bill to

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Speaker 1: keep the government open, and as a sweetener for the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: or at least to make it harder for them to vote. Now,

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01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: we're going to add a six year Previous iterations have

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Speaker 1: been four years, but they're adding a six year extension

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Speaker 1: to the CHIP program, and Democrats apparently are saying, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not good enough. We also want DACA, which I

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Speaker 1: think is unrealistic. There there still conversations going on in

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Speaker 1: negotiations about the Dreamers and the Dacca issue with that

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01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: deadline not until March. But that's the left wing base

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01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: wants the Democrats to uh, basically stand up and shut

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01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: down the government over the Dreamers. And it's it's an

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Speaker 1: interest thing about face where you now have the parties

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01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: in different positions, where Republicans were talking about shutting down

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01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: the government over Obamacare funding and the Democrats said that

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01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: it's literally, you know, the end of the world if

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Speaker 1: the government shuts down. Yeah, the hostage takers and arsonists

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01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: and all the all the words, um, and it's so

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01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: so reckless and terrible to shut down the government in

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01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: order to try to extract policy concessions. And now the

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01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,799
Speaker 1: Democrats are threatening to shut down the government to extract

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Speaker 1: policy concessions. The only difference is they feel confident that

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01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: this will all be blamed on Republicans, which shut downs

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01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: generally are because of a the media who go along

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01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: with it and be Also, I think the American people

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01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: look at the Republican Party as the government's skeptical party,

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01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: and so it kind of makes sense that if the

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01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: government's gonna get shut down, that the party that laws

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01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: government wouldn't be the ones doing it. But in this case, UM,

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: at least a significant amount of the blame would be

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01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: on the Democrats side. If the government shuts down, which

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: is still a big gap, I think they might get

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: this thing worked out over the next whatever it is

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01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: thirty hours UM. Because there there's also some division on

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01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: the Democratic side of things. There's a bunch of Democrats

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01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: who are not saying that they're going to rule out

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01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: voting for a clean continuing resolution to pick the can

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01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: down the road for whatever would be a number of

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Speaker 1: weeks UM. So there's enough moving parts where I don't

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01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: think confident predictions um are in order. If you had

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Speaker 1: to guess the guy at this point, the best percentage

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01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: that you could give me on the likelihood that government

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Speaker 1: does not shut down, what would you put it at. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's how I'm going to avoid that question, Buck, I'm

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01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: going to say this, Um, there's a part of me

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01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: and I wrote a piece about this a few months

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Speaker 1: ago when there was another potential shutdown fight. And remember

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Speaker 1: when the government shutdown, it's and it's a partial temporary shutdown,

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Speaker 1: it's not a real shutdown, but we call it a

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01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: government shutdown. When that happened under Obama and also when

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Speaker 1: it happened under Clinton, what the administrations did at the

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Speaker 1: time was make it as visibly painful and inconvenient as

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Speaker 1: possible by saying, what about, you know, we need to

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01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: pay our troops, what about NIH funding, what about you know,

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01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: keeping national monuments open? What about Social Security payments? Um?

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: And sort of the parade of horribles of what would

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01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: happen in the government shutdown, And then they went out

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01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: of their way not to prioritize, you know, priorities frankly, uh,

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01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,799
Speaker 1: in order to say to to sort of the Obama

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Speaker 1: administration made the shutdown worse than it could have otherwise been.

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Speaker 1: Oh like, on purpose, specifically on purpose for political reasons.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder that, let's just say, hypothetically, the government

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Speaker 1: does go into this partial shutdown, would it be interesting

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Speaker 1: for the Trump administration the Republicans to say, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: we don't want the government to be shutting down. The

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Speaker 1: Democrats have have forced this to happen. But as long

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Speaker 1: as we are in this partial shutdown, we are going

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Speaker 1: to do everything in our power to do the opposite

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Speaker 1: of what the Democrats do during shutdowns. We're gonna prioritize

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Speaker 1: and put at the front of the line, paying the

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Speaker 1: troops and I h funding, we're gonna keep the monuments open,

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Speaker 1: We're going to prioritize Social Security payments, basically do exactly

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Speaker 1: the opposite of shutdown theater to sort of teach the

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Speaker 1: American people, um, since we might have these fights for

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Speaker 1: many years, teach the American people that shutdowns under Republican

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Speaker 1: administrations UM. Strangely are not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: The way the Democrats try to pay them when they're

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Speaker 1: in charge. I wonder if there's a teachable moment. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself. I don't. I haven't thought

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Speaker 1: through the entire strategy of that, but it's at least

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Speaker 1: a thought experiment that's worth considering. Given how the how

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Speaker 1: the politics of these shutdowns typically cut against Republicans, is

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: there a way for them to sort of flip the

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Speaker 1: script a little bit. Guy Benson is a politics editor

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01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: at townhall dot Com. Check out his latest they're also

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01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter at Guy pe Benson. Mr Benson.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you, sir, Come back soon, thanks bok

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: sounds great team. We're gonna roll into a quick break here.

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: We will be back with much more. Stay with me

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01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: every day we see how reckless and careless Trump is.

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Speaker 1: One year into Donald Trump's presidency and the world's approval

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01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: of the U S leadership has plummeted. Do you think

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01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is racist? I think that Donald Trump himself

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01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: is a dangerous neo fascist. In the main, I have

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01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind, the market tank, some of

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: those jobs of the past are just not gonna come back.

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01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,799
Speaker 1: Just like he shouldn't have his finger on the button,

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01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have his hands on our economy. So there

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01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 1: you get just just to taste everybody of what some

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01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: of the leading lights of the Democrat Party have said

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Speaker 1: over the last year or so, some of those at

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01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: the very beginning of trump presidency, others others those comments

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01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: are much more recent. And isn't it astonishing to wake up,

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01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, in this country right now where there's so

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01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: much good stuff happening. I mean, the economy is just

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01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: crushing it. I'm seeing people who are very knowledgeable and

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: often quite skeptical of the you know, the growth of

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Speaker 1: the stock market and improvements in hiring and jobs and wages,

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01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: who were saying, look, yeah, the debt, the debt is

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01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: a problem, and we've got to deal with that. And

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01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: but for the next year or two, things are looking

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01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be great. And I've been telling you

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01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: this for a while, and the disconnect between what you

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01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: hear from the media about this presidency and what the

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01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: reality is of your life, what affects you, what allows

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01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: you to uh pay the mortgage, pay the grocery bill,

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01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: pay for all the things you need, have a little

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01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: bit of a of an easier time running your business,

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01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: a little less likely to you know, get jammed up

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01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: with federal regulators and all these different things. And depending

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01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: on the specific industry industry you're in, I could even

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01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: cite what Trump has done that would be helpful to

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01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,759
Speaker 1: it Apple with this massive investment that I mentioned yesterday

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01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: in the United States, big cash bonanza coming our way

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01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:33,919
Speaker 1: from overseas, repatriation of capital, all this great stuff is happening.

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01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: And you've got people going on the media that are

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: are you know, that are either in the media or

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01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,879
Speaker 1: that are put on TV as as experts or whatever.

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01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: And it's like to live in in an alternate universe.

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01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: You really have completely disparate visions of America going on

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01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: right now, and it's like nothing else I've ever seen

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01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 1: in my life, you know, during the during the Obama presidency.

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01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: You yeah, it was. It was very aggressive, very left wing,

1553
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 1: and we got used to the bowing, the apologizing for America,

1554
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: the the the lectures to those of us who are

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01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: paying taxes versus those of us who are net recipients

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01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: of federal largess. Right. I mean, we got used to

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01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: a certain approach from the federal government under under Obama.

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01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: But I had no illusions about what was happening. You know.

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01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, Obamacare is not gonna work.

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01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: They say work the way they say it is, and

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01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: and the uh, the policies abroad of the obamaministration and

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01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 1: go to embolden our enemies, and we're gonna have a

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01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,839
Speaker 1: very weak hand in negotiating with regimes that that respect

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01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: strength and action and decisiveness. I knew all that was

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Speaker 1: going on. I didn't think that Obama was about to

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Speaker 1: you know, round up everybody in uh, you know, FEMA camps,

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Speaker 1: or that Obama was going to just shred the constitution

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01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: and seize power for an additional three terms, or you know,

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01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: and you see this from Look, I know there's always

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01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: people that say crazy stuff, but when you look at

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01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: what is mainstream among the left, among the hashtag resistance

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01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: as to their narrative of what's going on in this country.

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01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: It's crazy. What do they have to say about the economy.

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01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: They're so incapable of just saying, you know what, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the increase in wages and the big boost to hiring,

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01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: that's that's happening now, and all of the economic momentum

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01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: and optimism that's happening is a good thing. They can't

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01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: admit it because, well, they were saying that the market

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01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: was going to crash. They were saying Trump is a fascist.

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01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 1: They're saying Trump is going to run the government into

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01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: the ground. All the things that they were telling you

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01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: from the earliest days of the Trump presidency are being

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01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: proven to be false. And that creates only two options

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01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 1: for them, increasing desperation of lies and smears and distractions

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01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: and delays and all the other stuff that they're currently doing,

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01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: or modification of their views acceptance that, you know, on

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01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: some things, they were just wrong, and they just have

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01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: been wrong up to this point. You'll you'll notice that

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01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: none of none of Trump's harshest critics on the left

1590
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: and the Democrat Party have come forward to say, you

1591
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: know what, I still disagree with them on a lot

1592
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: of stuff. I still disagree them a lot of stuff,

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01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: but some things have gone pretty well that they can't

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01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 1: even concede that they won't. They are so dug into

1595
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: a hatred of the president and the hatred of everybody

1596
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: who is around him in the White House that there's

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01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: just a complete and utter break with the reality of

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01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: what's happening day to day in our country. So it's

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01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: a honestly you see, And that's why Trump doing the

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01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:08,799
Speaker 1: fake news Awards I thought was particularly particularly funny. Uh,

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01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: it's just goating them, and I I wish more people

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01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: make the argument that I digestakes because I really do

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01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: believe it's important, and that is a president with the

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01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: entirety of the media covering forum cheering him on and

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01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 1: in his back pocket, which was the case with Obama,

1606
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: is much more dangerous to free expression than a president

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01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: who has the media against him but is at least

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01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: but but is willing to you know, fight back, push back,

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01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: call them out. That's I would think that it's not

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01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: even the balance we should have, because it would be

1611
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: more like fifty fifty would be nice in terms of

1612
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: the media's approach. But they're they're telling us now that

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01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: we have to worry about the destruction of the free

1614
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: press and the First Amendment. You've got prominent journalists who

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01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: point to regimes around the world because these people look

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01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot of journalists. I hate to be the one

1617
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 1: to break this to you if you don't already know it,

1618
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: and I know basically all of you already know this,

1619
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: but a lot of journalists don't read many of what

1620
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: you'd call books. They're they're not what you would call knowledgeable.

1621
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: They spend a lot of time getting their hair sprayed

1622
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 1: and trying to look a certain way, trying to sound

1623
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: a certain way, and make sure they play off as

1624
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: politics so you know, they get the big anchor job, right.

1625
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of anchors out there are

1626
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: pretty dumb, I'll just say it, pretty dumb. And they refuse,

1627
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: utterly refuse to look at the history of what's really

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01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: gone on in this country over the last year, or

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01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: just over any historical period. It's all about what is

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01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: advantageous to them in the moment, Whatever is advantageous today.

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01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 1: That's the storyline they run with. There's no historical perspective whatsoever.

1632
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: There's no ability for them two put together the past

1633
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: and the present in a way that doesn't beyond all

1634
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: else privilege their own professional concerns. Right, whatever helps the

1635
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: guys at CNN, MSNBC to get get more ratings today, push,

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01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: push ahead, there agenda a little bit. That's what they're

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01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: going to say. And that's just why the clash with

1638
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 1: reality right now is so profound. Uh, the disconnect between

1639
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: what is happening in the country and what is being reported,

1640
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: the stuff with the president's health right only with the

1641
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: media the way it is right now, the way it's

1642
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: constituted in this country. Could you have people quibbling over

1643
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: whether the president is six two or six three when

1644
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: you have the lowest unemployment in forty years. All right,

1645
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna roll into a quick break your team. I'll

1646
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: be back in just a few eight four four two,

1647
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: eight to eight buck, if you wish to call in,

1648
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: will be right back. The doctor certainly has taken on

1649
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,679
Speaker 1: the life form of other life forms. Inside the Trump

1650
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: light house. We sounded like a sick of and he

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01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: didn't sound like a doctor. The doctor rhapsodized about Trump's vision,

1652
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: his stamina. He has more energy than just about anybody,

1653
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: and Trump is very sharp and very very articulate, very

1654
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: very sharp, very intact, absolutely no cognitive or middle issues

1655
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 1: or whatever. The President did exceedingly well. And then they said, well,

1656
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 1: but he has borderline ops to wards. The doctor said

1657
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 1: that if it adn't better over the past twenty years,

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01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: he might live to be two hundred. I'm sure this

1659
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 1: guy is a great guy, great position, blah blah blah.

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01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have sounded so trump you Joe Scarborough is

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01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 1: a jerk. He's a jerk. That was That was a

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01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: whole the whole jerk fest right there. It's just a

1663
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: guy acting like a complete imbecile in a clown uh

1664
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:56,480
Speaker 1: wildly overpaid to do a very small audience show on MSNBC.

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01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: I would note, but there you have another person in

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01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: the media who has taken upon himself two decide that

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01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna overrule what is said here by a doctor.

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01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: There you have Joe Scarborough who has decided that an

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Speaker 1: m d with who has served as as doctor to

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01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 1: previous presidents very respect in his field, is being too Trumpian.

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01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: You know, maybe the doctor felt like it was for

1672
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: the good of the country to put to rest the

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01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: comments by idiots like Scarborough about how the twenty five

1674
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: Amendment is necessary to remove this present for office because

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01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: of mental deficiency, because of sinility, because of whatever the

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01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: case may have been, right, whatever it is that they're

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01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: going to try to say, maybe the doctor decided that

1678
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: it was good for all of us to be able

1679
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: to move past the smears and the lies and the

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01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: nonsense offered up by a psychotically anti Trump media apparatus,

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01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 1: of which MSNBC is a large piece. But I would

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01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: also note that the and this a little comment, little

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01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 1: snod comment there about borderline obesity. I mean, I hope

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01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 1: a lot of Americans out there, because you know itself included.

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01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us are technically in a

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01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: place where you know, should should drop a pound. You're there,

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01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: and you know, so, yeah, we're not, We're not perfect.

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Speaker 1: Their guidelines about Waite, he's saying he's borderline obese. I

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Speaker 1: think the President is doing just fine, thank you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got Joe Scarborough, who you know, fancies himself a

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Speaker 1: rock star in his off hours, is just a joke,

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Speaker 1: and you know he should maybe focus on his own

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Speaker 1: on his own house a little bit. In a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, there was Scarborough's out there fat shaming the president,

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Speaker 1: as though that's analysis that anybody should really hear. I

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Speaker 1: would just note that the look at the difference, and

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01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: people have been pulling this together in the last twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours, and we pulled together a montage here, But

1699
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: look at the difference between the fascination with every aspect

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01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: of Trump's health and and trying to poke holes in

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01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: m D's analysis, versus the way that they responded to

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01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: Hillary basically passing out in front of a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of reporters and everybody else. And I would be dragged

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01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: into a van if you remember during the election season,

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Speaker 1: here's how that went. Trump also questioning Clinton's health, which

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01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: appears to have zero basis. We looked up Hillary clinton

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01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 1: illness and we found multiple articles debunking these wild eyed

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01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: the lunatic conspiracy theories. So eurologists went on handed the

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Speaker 1: show to pass judgment on Hillary Clinton's mental state of mind.

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01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: Why are so many Trump surrogeates fueling these rumors about

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01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's health. So you noticed that it was like

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01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: a big meany thing to do such a meaning that

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01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: Trump was to bring up Hillary's health. That was just

1714
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: so incredibly beyond the pale as she was being dragged

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Speaker 1: into a car, and then they said she had walking pneumonia,

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01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: and they had all these different things. And you also

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01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: had Hillary with the glasses before that, and people talking

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Speaker 1: about the possibility that she had had a concussion and

1719
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: what does that really mean long term and everything. She's

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01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: no honest to hear at all for me, I mean,

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01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 1: the reason that we don't care when they run these

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01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 1: different stories about Trump, the reason that a front page

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01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: article about Trump and and you know this or or

1724
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: or that Dalyan's reel or alleged or whatever it may

1725
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: be with Trump in his past. You know, I've seen

1726
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 1: this thing with the people are talking about an adult

1727
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: film star, all these new stories everywhere. The reason a

1728
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 1: lot of us just say, you know, we we don't care,

1729
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 1: we don't want to hear it, and we don't believe them,

1730
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: is because they have no standards. They only have an

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01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: agenda we have. They have no ground truth, no integrity

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01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 1: in the media. It's just about being advocates for a side,

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01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: and the side of their advocates for is well, so

1734
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: you can just get it's it's progressive, it's collectivist, it's

1735
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: places the group over the individual. It is about victim

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01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: victimology and about identity politics, and about the eradication of

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01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: traditional uh Judeo Christian values in this country. That that's

1738
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: what they're pushing for and and everything is toward that goal,

1739
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: right the reportage they do the news stories for. So

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01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 1: that's how they don't feel bad about questioning Trump's health

1741
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 1: and making excuses for why they don't want to question

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01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: Hillary's health, because it's all to a by. They see

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01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 1: a bigger purpose here. The the progressive agenda sits well

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01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: above their integrity there, journalistic standards, everything else. And that's

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01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: why they no pangs of remorse over there grotesque dishonesty.

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01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: And that's why I will continue and why it is

1747
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,759
Speaker 1: so refreshing to have Trump fighting back against it, calling

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01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 1: it out and just taking the fight to them. Look,

1749
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: I I'm I'm somebody who sits here be for you,

1750
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: and I was. I supported Trump once he won the primary.

1751
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: He was not my first pick among all the different

1752
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Republican cans. I support him during the primary, um right

1753
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: away and was very happy when he won. But I

1754
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 1: had my concerns and I am so uh pleasantly surprised

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01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: by how well the first year has gone in many ways,

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01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: and the fact that I can sit here and say

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01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 1: that to you, I'm just happy because it's good for

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01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 1: the country. But i mean, well, you know, Joe Scarborough

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01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: is gonna call the President fat because Joe Scarbo's a jerk.

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01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to some roll call here, so stay

1761
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: right there. Well, it's time to close up shop here

1762
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: in a few minutes in the Freedom Hunt. Thank you

1763
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: so much for being with me as always an honor

1764
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 1: of privilege and a pleasure. I'm doing my last minute research,

1765
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: pulling together notes for the upcoming podcast Shields High on Monday,

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01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: the Fall of Constantinople, and I'm just I'm there's so

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Speaker 1: much that I am looking forward to talking about on

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01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: that podcast and then also in the after action shows

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01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna be posting next week. I'm glad that many

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01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 1: of you see it's great I get to I get

1771
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: to put ideas out there to you, and it's like

1772
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm crowdsourcing, but I'm crowdsourcing an idea to the wonderful

1773
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 1: and and brilliant and thoughtful patriots who listened to this show.

1774
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: And so I get back all this amazing, amazing feedback,

1775
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna do some of those follow on

1776
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: shows next week. We'll see how those do. But I

1777
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 1: am looking into doing the deep dives into the research.

1778
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 1: And these are books that I've read in the past,

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01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 1: but I'm now looking at notes in the margins, rereading

1780
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: certain chapters to make sure really as as up to

1781
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: speed as I need to be to do a solid

1782
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: narrative of events for the well, in this case, the

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01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: Fall of Contantinople. About a few things. One is, I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how we could without being there, how

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01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 1: you could ever really imagine what it would be like

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01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 1: to be a top the walls, the Theodosian walls, with

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01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 1: uh everything on the line, and being able to see

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01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 1: the battle with that kind of view where you have

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of Turkish soldiers and artillery and trying

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01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: to batter down the walls, and to have that view

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Speaker 1: of a battle all at once like that, to be

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01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,600
Speaker 1: sixty feet up and on the walls, it would have

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01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 1: been an amazing and terrifying but an unbelievable site. And

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Speaker 1: I just I'm struck by that. As I was reading

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Speaker 1: about the fortifications and one of the big parts of

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01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: the show on Monday will be a discussion, or not

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01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: a discussion. I'll go into some detail about how the

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01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 1: fall of Constantinople was also really the the big event

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01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: that showed the end of fortified high walls as a

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Speaker 1: defensive mechanism that would be impervious to uh, most assaults. Right,

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01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: They've always been able to take castles and fortresses by siege,

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01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 1: but with the advent of gunpowder, having really high walls

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01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden was not nearly as as effective

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01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 1: as a fortification. Um, So that's one part of it.

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Speaker 1: That's just as I'm reading about the walls around Constantinople,

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01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing, the intricacy and the fact that they

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01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,600
Speaker 1: lasted for hundreds of years. So you'll hear more of

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01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: the details about that on on Monday if you've done

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01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: on the show. And then also just the system of

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01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: succession in the Ottoman court. So the Ottomans never thought

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01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: of themselves as Turks, which is very interesting. We meaning

1812
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 1: the Westerners Christians called them Turks, and they called us

1813
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: Western Christians Franz or Franks, and they called the Byzantines Romans.

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01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,640
Speaker 1: Because the Byzantines thought of themselves as the inheritors of

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01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: the Roman Empire, which is I think lost in most

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01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: of the that that context is lost in most of

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01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: the historical conversation whenever it comes up about the Byzantines.

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01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: And they never would have called themselves Byzantines, by the way,

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01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: that was a later addition to Alexicon. But it is

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Speaker 1: amazing to me that the succession in the Ottoman court

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01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 1: involved I mean I I mean amazing in late way

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01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 1: of being horrified right like it is. It literally inspires

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01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: a sense of dread. Uh that they would murder all

1824
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 1: possible competition, including small children, and that would happen right away.

1825
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: They would keep the death of the sultan a secret,

1826
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: and then whoever moved first. It's very game of thrones

1827
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 1: for those of you who are a Game of Thrones fans.

1828
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Whoever moves first has the advantage and goes and tries

1829
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 1: to kill off in some cases siblings, in other cases

1830
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 1: half siblings, many cases half siblings, as fast as possible.

1831
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Speaker 1: And there are stories about the Ottoman Insultings, or of

1832
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: the ottom Insultings in the past, presiding over what was

1833
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: essentially a procession of tiny coffins out of the palace

1834
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: after the murder of small children who could have been

1835
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 1: a threat to succession and the whole Ottoman Empire was

1836
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 1: is a fascinating subject and the massive slavery it engaged

1837
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,600
Speaker 1: in all so much of this is lost. So and

1838
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be looking into more of this and

1839
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: get a chance to address so much of it with

1840
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: you on Monday. I think it will be a lot

1841
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: of fun with that team Buck roll Call. Team Buck

1842
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: it time for roll call at some point. If you

1843
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 1: think that gets silly, let me know. I kind of

1844
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 1: like it though. So we've got messages coming. And by

1845
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 1: the way, I I do appreciate all the messages about

1846
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: the history show, but you know the radio show to

1847
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: let me know about that. Uh, that's that's also something

1848
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: that you should be let me know what you think about, Jeffrey.

1849
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,839
Speaker 1: With that said, Jeffrey writes, and listening to you discuss

1850
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: the podcast of Shields High and wondering when I listened

1851
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 1: to it on the Buck Sexton Show page, does that

1852
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: get counted? They are great? By the way, Well, Jeffrey, yes, uh,

1853
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 1: they do get counted that way. But I would ask

1854
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: that if you don't mind subscribe to the Shields High

1855
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: feed as well, because in the future we may be

1856
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: putting some stuff in the podcast feed on iTunes and

1857
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,640
Speaker 1: elsewhere for Shields High that does not go into the

1858
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: general Buck Sexton show feed. This is the crazy new

1859
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: digital world of content we live in. But we're we're

1860
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: working on that, but please do uh, let's see we

1861
01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: have Lace writing in the following. Hey, Buck, I'm listening

1862
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 1: to your show last night and you're currently talking about

1863
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: double standards between Democrats and Republicans. I would like to

1864
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,680
Speaker 1: hear your current thoughts about the situation in Missouri with

1865
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: Governor Eric gright Ends. A woman came forward stating she

1866
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,839
Speaker 1: had an affair with him and he allegedly and allegedly

1867
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: he blackmailed her to keep quiet during the election cycle. Currently,

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01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: both sides are of the political aisle are requesting him

1869
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 1: to step down as governor until he considered himself a

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Speaker 1: Democrat and switched to the the Republican Party. I don't know

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01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: if this is Lace or Lacey. Pardon me if I

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01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: got your name wrong there, but I don't. I'm actually

1873
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: not familiar with that story, and I'm not gonna be

1874
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 1: that radio host that goes well, I've got a lot

1875
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 1: of thoughts on that, and you'll hear those thoughts in

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01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: a few moments. But now I'm gonna switch topics before

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01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 1: I give you the thoughts. I actually am not familiar

1878
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 1: with that story, so I'd have to go check it out.

1879
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:53,640
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna guess Lacey, thank you for sending me

1880
01:49:53,920 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 1: that update or that question rather, Jane writes, in just

1881
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 1: listening to the last night's show, you spoke of whether

1882
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: our reps are just in it for the spotlight or

1883
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 1: actually do any work. Check out this website. He sign

1884
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 1: up for alerts for your congressman, and each time a

1885
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: vote is held, you get an email and see what

1886
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: the vote is. Also, it explains the bill which was

1887
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: voted on. You will quickly see that the Senate is

1888
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: not into voting on anything that the House sends them.

1889
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I live in a blue state and have written to

1890
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: my Senator, Warren oh on several issues on upcoming votes. Generally,

1891
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: I will receive a long winded blathering email several weeks later,

1892
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 1: which may or may not have anything to do with

1893
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: the issue I raised. I have passed this on to

1894
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 1: friends so they can be informed on exactly what the

1895
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 1: people we sent to DC are up to shields high. Genie, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that is what is this countable? Send Grid? I gotta

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Speaker 1: figure out what his website is a little confused, but Gene,

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Speaker 1: thank you for raising that. And I'll look into this

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Speaker 1: website that can send you updates on what members of

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Speaker 1: Congress are doing. I'll get a couple more in here.

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Speaker 1: It supposed tomorrow's Friday's we got a freestyle Friday and

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Speaker 1: we can do some action movie quotes or I've wanted

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01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: to do war movie quotes too, which I feel like

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01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,799
Speaker 1: are usually a crossover into the action movie quote genre.

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Speaker 1: But that's just a thought of So what else do

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Speaker 1: we have here? Brandy writes in I am so excited

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Speaker 1: to hear more history lessons are coming. Nobody really does this,

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Speaker 1: with the exception of Glenn Beck. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: and keep up the great work on radio. Love your

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Speaker 1: show well, Thank you, Brandy, oh you all. She also

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Speaker 1: wrote in yes, please do tell us the history of propaganda. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a project that I want to work on a

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Speaker 1: little more detail, Brandy, I can talk about it on

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Speaker 1: the show, and I know I mentioned it a little

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Speaker 1: bit yesterday. Propaganda. I told you the origins of it

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Speaker 1: are actually from within the Catholic Church, and it had

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Speaker 1: to do with the continuation of official doctrine, to propagate

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Speaker 1: the doctrine of the church. So it was like an

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Speaker 1: office for indoctrination of those that were supposed to go

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Speaker 1: out there and spread the gospel. Um you notice even

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Speaker 1: saying indoctrination for in some cases can have a slightly

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Speaker 1: it can have a negative connotation. And it was in

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Speaker 1: the First World War when the mass media opened up

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Speaker 1: with radio in particular, that you had the ability for

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Speaker 1: governments to spread messages. It was really advertising from the

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Speaker 1: government to the population, and in this case about war,

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Speaker 1: war and warfare. And you really saw it come into

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Speaker 1: fruition the notion of government propaganda with the way during

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Speaker 1: the First World War that the Germans were demonized as

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Speaker 1: the huns and the pictures used because also there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of visual aids in this process. The pictures

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Speaker 1: of the Germans were showing them as as you know, menacing, pillaging,

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Speaker 1: evil doers. So that's where you start to get that sense.

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Speaker 1: And and there was a lack of honesty on both

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Speaker 1: sides when it comes to the government's represent stations of

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Speaker 1: what was going on in the war, and it was

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Speaker 1: all justified under well, you know, we need to win,

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Speaker 1: so we need to tell people what we think they

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Speaker 1: need to know so that we can win. And from

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Speaker 1: that twenty century uh legacy of government messaging efforts are

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Speaker 1: you know, warum, information and warfare. Uh that's me. What

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Speaker 1: I mean by that is information warfare. Why I separated

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Speaker 1: those two words, but that's where you get propaganda. So

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Speaker 1: with that, we're gonna get ready for Freestyle Friday tomorrow. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Please do share the podcasts, including the Buck Sex and

1946
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Speaker 1: show everybody which is what this is with some friends.

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Speaker 1: We love when those numbers go up, it helps the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt grow. Already excited to join you tomorrow. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: I'll have some uh interesting stuff to talk about with

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Speaker 1: regard to the shutdown and until then, as you know,

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Speaker 1: Shields High