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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to George Nori and Stephen Bassett from

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Speaker 2: the Paradigm Research Group. Steven, you mentioned Lou Alexandro and

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Speaker 2: Christopher Mellon. Are they big players in this disclosure puzzle.

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Speaker 3: They are very important to the process, the disclosure process underway.

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Speaker 3: The two of them, along with Gary Nolan and seven

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Speaker 3: others are the ones that came forward in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and seventeen as part of the Two the Stars Academy

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Speaker 3: of Arts of Times. But the other seven have kind

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Speaker 3: of stayed in the background, though they they've said some

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Speaker 3: things from time to time. But it's these three Lou,

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Speaker 3: Gary and Christopher who have been carrying the heavy water

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Speaker 3: and in the three areas that I talked about. And

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Speaker 3: if you'll indulge me for a second, George, I want

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Speaker 3: to reiterate what I said just before the break is

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Speaker 3: the most important thing I'm going to say tonight, and

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Speaker 3: that is this what is going on. It's not the

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Speaker 3: United States government doing all it can now to finally

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Speaker 3: try to understand this phenomena. No, not at all. It's

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Speaker 3: not about the phenomena. People haven't need to know for

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Speaker 3: seven decades. What is going on now is a process

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Speaker 3: within certain constraints and protocols to get out from under

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Speaker 3: the truth embargo by in a public way doing all

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Speaker 3: the things that should have been done and will be

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Speaker 3: done that will get the government and the nation to

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Speaker 3: the post disclosure world a minimum amount of pain, suffering

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Speaker 3: and damage. That is what is going on, and that's

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Speaker 3: why it's very confusing to a lot of people, particularly

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Speaker 3: if you know something about the phenomena or even in

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Speaker 3: the modern era, or if you know about the history,

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Speaker 3: and to give an example of how this connection or

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Speaker 3: this disconnector what I'm trying to point out is that

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Speaker 3: back in two thou and eight in at press conference

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Speaker 3: after one of my ex conferences, edgar Mitchell at doctor

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Speaker 3: edgar Mitchell, who spoke its podium at the press conference

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Speaker 3: in the National Press Club and said there's an extra

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Speaker 3: trustrial presence. In twenty sixteen, Robert Bigelow went on fifteen

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Speaker 3: minutes and said there's an extraterrestrial presence here. Conferenceman Timbershev

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Speaker 3: of Tennessee says there's an extra trustrial presence here about

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Speaker 3: every other week, just a couple of days ago at

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Speaker 3: the salt Icon extras conference, a big deal in New York,

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Speaker 3: Gary Nolan, doctor Gary Nolan, said there's an extrustrial presence here,

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Speaker 3: So expect more people like that, people of high conference

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Speaker 3: to come forward and say that. But you're going to

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Speaker 3: hear something else. And Gary basically says this, there's an

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Speaker 3: extra trustrial presence here and the government has known it

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Speaker 3: all along, or known it since the nineteen forties. You're

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Speaker 3: going to hear more people saying that. And that's important.

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Speaker 3: And the reason that I'm saying is important why because

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Speaker 3: we want the truth embargo to end, and we recognize

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Speaker 3: that it's not like you could just suddenly pro press

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Speaker 3: conference and say, guess what, it's all been true. Too

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Speaker 3: many moving parts, too many entities and institutions, have too

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Speaker 3: much history. It's got to be done in an organized,

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Speaker 3: in a public way, which is exactly what is happening,

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Speaker 3: all right. That doesn't mean that the public has to

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Speaker 3: be fooled by that. In other words, what I want,

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Speaker 3: and I think you're going to see happening, is the

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Speaker 3: public getting to a position where it understands that what

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Speaker 3: is happening is not exactly what it seems. That it's

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Speaker 3: somewhat of a I don't know how to put it.

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Speaker 3: It's like almost a ritual or a protocol. But in

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Speaker 3: other words, the government it knows, but they need to

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Speaker 3: go through this so they can confirm it to us

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Speaker 3: so we can really get on with the post disclosure world.

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Speaker 3: It's okay for people to have those two things in

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Speaker 3: their head at the same time. That's the point I

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a big point. But will the government ever

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Speaker 2: explain why they held back all these years?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah. After the confirmation comes from the President

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Speaker 3: the next probably within twenty four hours, the questions will begin.

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Speaker 3: They will be intense, and they will be coming from

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Speaker 3: every direction, and they'll go on for months and years.

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Speaker 3: But one of the very first questions is going to

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Speaker 3: be asked by some top journalist of the Secretary of

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Speaker 3: Defense to the President or whoever is that, when did

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Speaker 3: the United States government know that this phenomenon is not here?

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Speaker 3: And the answer will be nineteen forty seven, forty five,

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Speaker 3: why did you tell us in national security? We had

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Speaker 3: very good reasons why this had to be contained and

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Speaker 3: going to apologize for that. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 3: millennials go okay, not a problem. So but all of

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Speaker 3: a lot other questions. I mean, so easy. I could

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Speaker 3: you gotta handle the tough questions if you.

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Speaker 2: Can't get another job, Steven. There is one ufologist who's

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Speaker 2: a darn good one who stands aside from most other ufologists,

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Speaker 2: and that's David Jacobs, who believes the UFO presence is

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Speaker 2: not a good one. Where does where does he stand

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah I wouldn't. I'm trying to see that

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Speaker 3: the craseypologists eventually go away, just as UFO is going away.

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Speaker 3: We need new language. It makes it easier for people

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Speaker 3: be touched by all the ridicules and demeaning that that

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Speaker 3: you've covered it for the decades because of the truth

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Speaker 3: in Barbo. He is a contact researcher and a professor

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Speaker 3: the ET presence. But be sure that there are things

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Speaker 3: reviewed post disclosure, discussed post disclosures, and some of that

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Speaker 3: is problematic. Does that mean that the overall outcome is

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Speaker 3: going to be terrible?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, And I'll be getting into this. Oh I should

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Speaker 3: mention what about to just touch on a little bit here,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go way deeper in in ten days

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Speaker 3: at a conference in any and Well, it's contact in

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Speaker 2: I'll be there. I'll see you there.

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Speaker 3: You'll be there. I'll be there, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: be taking probably I think I have about two to

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Speaker 3: three hours of questions I'll be able to take, uh,

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Speaker 3: which ets were doing directly with humans without their consent? Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 3: uh you knew? Yeah, Well why did you do something

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Speaker 3: unknowledged special access programs that could if we're in the

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Speaker 3: public domain being very useful to us. Answer yes. Now,

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Speaker 3: reason is simple. This isn't nineteen sixty nine. Is this

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Speaker 2: Podcasts, and we know that there are.

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Speaker 3: Five six million cell phones with cameras, global communications, social media.

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Speaker 3: Everything the government does now could be broken down to

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Speaker 3: the letter to the syllables. Any attempt to lie now

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Speaker 3: is just literally destroyed within within hours, and the public's

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Speaker 3: so once confirmation takes place, there is no reason to

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Speaker 3: I cannot discuss that of concocting a lie simply because

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Speaker 3: on what I'm seeing is they're not going to do that.

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Speaker 3: But again, these tough questions are why they're having to

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Speaker 3: DoD and sent up these ended so that when those

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Speaker 3: this process. Is it easy no? Is it fun no?

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Speaker 3: Is it frustrating?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: But when you're dealing with what will be the most

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Speaker 3: profound event in human history, with consequences for every single

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Speaker 3: possible that our president may be the one that ends

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Speaker 3: this embargo and confirms it. Clearly, this is something that

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Speaker 3: has to be treated with a great deal of care,

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Speaker 3: sophistication and forethought, and you're seeing that unfold. I'm happy

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Speaker 2: They'll have too other.

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Speaker 3: Things happen that well. I know we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: Are you saying these hearings that are eminent? Is this

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Speaker 2: coming from inside sources you know? Or what? What? Why

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Speaker 2: do you know this?

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Speaker 3: You know it because I follow the news, as you know,

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Speaker 3: I chronicle all the news on the subjectors. I've got

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Speaker 3: thirteen thousand articles linked on my site right now. I've

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Speaker 3: linked five thousands since twenty seventeen. I'm following all these developments.

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Speaker 3: Most people don't have the time for that, so I

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Speaker 3: have a pretty good sense of the big picture. Plus,

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Speaker 3: a dozen or more witnesses have already been interviewed by AEROS.

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Speaker 3: Bob Salliss made that clear, but he's not the only one. Now,

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Speaker 3: the witnesses they're interviewing are just the right ones. They're

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Speaker 3: interviewing the nuclear weapons tampering witnesses, they're interviewing pilots, they're

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Speaker 3: interviewing military people that have specific information about very very

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Speaker 3: important events. And there is no more important event, no

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Speaker 3: more important thing regarding the extraterrustrial presence on this planet

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Speaker 3: nuclear missiles. And I'll be going into that deep as

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Speaker 3: contact in the desert. That is the one thing that

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Speaker 3: will should be heavily attendantive as we move forward, not

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Speaker 3: only the disclosure process but in the post disclosure world.

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Speaker 3: Why did they turn off our nuclear weapons? And that

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Speaker 3: gets into a very interesting area. Ye, but for me,

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Speaker 3: it's a very positive thing.

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Speaker 2: What are they trying to prove by doing that? Steven?

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Speaker 3: The simple answer, here's the simple answer. The nuclear weapons

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Speaker 3: tampering is the phrase I use. Others use other things.

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Speaker 3: But the turning off of nuclear weapons in the United

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Speaker 3: least two instances where they set them the missile vent

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Speaker 2: Done right, It's almost impossible. It should be impossible.

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Speaker 3: Well, it went out, the key being turned. All that

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Speaker 1: I realized it.

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Speaker 3: So we had a Cuban missile crisis. I sat there

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Speaker 3: came a lot closer to a nuclear event in that

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Speaker 3: in that crisis, one could take away from the news

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Speaker 3: we've learned since then how close we came. A couple

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Speaker 3: the witnesses, certainly about Zallas and others, believe this is

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Speaker 3: a simple message, what in the hell are you doing

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Speaker 3: with these weapons? Are you crazy?

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Speaker 2: And we can shut them off anytime we want.

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Speaker 3: Well, we can shut them off anytime we want, sure,

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Speaker 3: So the message is that we can shut them off

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Speaker 3: anytime we want. The message is we're letting you know

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five. Is that if you're keeping them because

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Speaker 3: you're wasting your money and your time. But just turn

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Speaker 3: them off. So that's not an excuse. You've got to

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Speaker 3: make your decision. Do you really want your civilization to

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Speaker 3: live under mutual search destruction on a daily basis forever?

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Speaker 3: Is what is your game plan here? But I think

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Speaker 3: there's even more to it than that. So this will

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Speaker 3: to be my I'm blowing and that's what's going to

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Speaker 3: get people's attention. Bringing off the nuclear weapons is one

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