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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, and welcome to this just the News,

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Speaker 1: Real America's Voice, special report, Vigilant for Peace, Broad and

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Speaker 1: Terror at Home, all brought to you in partnership with

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Speaker 1: our good friends at the Association for Mature American Citizens.

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Speaker 2: Better known as AMAC.

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Speaker 1: All throughout tonight's show, we're go'll be taking a deep

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Speaker 1: dive into the critical issues facing America's foreign policy and

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Speaker 1: domestic security, and in many cases they are deeply tied

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Speaker 1: to one another. We'll explore how the US can maintain

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Speaker 1: piece abroad while addressing the growing threats of foreign influence

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Speaker 1: here in America, an example being a lot of the

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Speaker 1: anti Ice and anti Israel protests, as well as a

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Speaker 1: threat of terrorism here at home. To the Biden Administration's

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Speaker 1: previous wide open borders. We've seen President Trump's national security

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Speaker 1: stat in action. It's been put to the test, but

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Speaker 1: it's also succeeding, whether in Iran are here in America.

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Speaker 1: But according to the White House, the approach is strengthening

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Speaker 1: America's global standing and protecting the homeland at the same time.

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Speaker 1: We'll break that down all throughout tonight with the incredible

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Speaker 1: lineup of guests we have, starting with Farmer Israeli Ambassador

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Speaker 1: to the United States Mike Orn He'll break down and

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Speaker 1: give us a live report of what's going on in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East in the first twenty four hours of

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Speaker 1: that historic ceasefire. We'll also have Houseways and Means Committee

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Speaker 1: Chairman Jason Smith discussing Congressional efforts to support national security priorities,

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Speaker 1: like where the dark money funding all these protests is

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Speaker 1: coming from and can it be stopped by Congress.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: Then retired CI officer Sam Fattis will join us to

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Speaker 1: provide insight into the evolving threats of terrorism on American

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Speaker 1: so and what can be done to counter them. And

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Speaker 1: China expert Gordon Chang will be here to analyze the

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Speaker 1: geopolitical challenges posed by China and what the CCP is

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Speaker 1: doing at home to foment arrest. On that topic, today

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Speaker 1: we had some news more details about what the FBI

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Speaker 1: knew about china plot to disrupt the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 1: Go check that out at justinews dot com. Finally, we'll

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Speaker 1: wrap the conversation up today with Farmer, Assistant Secretary of

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Speaker 1: the national spokesman for AMAC, Bobby Charles, our good friend.

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Speaker 1: He'll discuss the balance between maintaining global influence and protecting

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Speaker 1: American citizens at home. Now, before we get to all that,

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Speaker 1: let me introduce my amazing cos for the evening. He's

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Speaker 1: also my good friend and the CEO of AMAC, Rebecca Weber. Rebecca,

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Speaker 1: great to have you back. This is a great line

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Speaker 1: up to big discussions we're going to have.

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Speaker 3: Sure as John, it's great to be with you tonight.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I will say this that America is

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Speaker 3: safer today than we were just a handful of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I think Donald Trump's strategy of peace through strength is working.

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Speaker 3: And I'm very excited to have these this great lineup

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Speaker 3: because we've got a lot of questions. People are concerned

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Speaker 3: about what's happening here our own domestic security, and they're

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Speaker 3: concerned about what this means across the globe. So interesting,

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Speaker 3: great lineup that we have, and very excited to say

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Speaker 3: that AMAC is growing over too million amas.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. I love one of them. I'm a car care remember,

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Speaker 2: I'm very proud of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, effect, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I love the offer we have tonight.

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Speaker 1: I think it's twelve dollars for a year. That's an

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Speaker 1: amazing deal. We'll mention that several times throughout the show.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned feeling stronger and safer, and I think watching

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Speaker 1: President trumpet NATO today and seeing all those NATO countries

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Speaker 1: saying yeah, we'll chip in our five percent. Now you

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Speaker 1: are right, mister president. It really was an amazing moment

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Speaker 1: for not just a president but America.

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Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely right, and each and every one

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Speaker 3: of those leaders really ought to be thanking our president,

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Speaker 3: because without his strength, this is something that I don't

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Speaker 3: believe that Joe Biden or any other leader for that matter,

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Speaker 3: So very very pleased to see that he is continuing

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Speaker 3: to work for us, the American people, and recognizing that

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Speaker 3: America first is the best priority.

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Speaker 4: For all Americans.

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Speaker 3: We want this country to be great today and into

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Speaker 3: the future and for future generations.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Real things are happening to Hey, they're going to secure

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Speaker 1: America for our children and grandchildren.

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Speaker 2: Right, remarkable, That's what an Amax answer, which I love

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Speaker 2: about it so much. It's great.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're going to start tonight with a very

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Speaker 1: and now the ceasefire with iron.

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Speaker 2: Our first guest is going to give us a live report.

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Speaker 1: We're very lucky to kick off tonight's show with the

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Speaker 1: former Israeli ambassador to the United States, one of the

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Speaker 1: mister abassador.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you on.

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Speaker 5: Good to be back, John, Rebecca High, good to be

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Speaker 1: Great to have you on, Sir. I know you've been

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Speaker 1: ducking bombs. I know Israel has been in this extraordinary

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 6: First of all, relief this country was under tremendous dress

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Speaker 6: tremendous uncertainty about the past. Much of that was relieved

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Speaker 6: decisively when President Trump decided to intervene militarily Operation Midnight Hammer,

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Speaker 6: joining our Operation Rising Line. And by the way, the

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Speaker 6: first time in Israel's history seventy seven years where the

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Speaker 6: United States has actively participated with US in a counter

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Speaker 6: offensive operation. The States has defended israel skies many times

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Speaker 6: in the past, but never joined us in an operation

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Speaker 6: against the common enemy, and so effectively, immensely effectively. That's

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Speaker 6: operations will be studied at West Point for for the

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Speaker 6: day and a half of quiet and relief, uncertainty, uncertainly

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Speaker 5: What does the ceasefire look like? What will be the

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Speaker 6: Iran violate that ceasefire in various ways if it tries

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Speaker 6: to rebuild its nuclear program, And will be America's position

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Speaker 6: in the negotiation which are set to revive soon. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: we're still dealing the situation in Gaza where last night

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Speaker 6: seven young Israeli soldiers were killed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're praying for Israel. Sir.

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Speaker 3: You have lived, You've served you've negotiated on both sides

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Speaker 3: the growing ideological divide within America regarding support for Israel,

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Speaker 5: Well, it concernably.

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Speaker 6: Also, what may surprise you that the almost without exception,

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Speaker 5: Want a relationship with Israel, don't think Israel should have

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Speaker 6: Those people, almost unexceptionally believe that the United States doesn't say,

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Speaker 5: It's not proud of its achievements, So it's a deeper problem.

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Speaker 6: Israel will continue to have strong relations, I think with

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Speaker 6: the American people once we get past this war, certainly

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Speaker 6: the source of anti Israel feeling among young people in

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Speaker 6: and I think that's a much deeper problem, Rebecca.

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Speaker 3: It certainly is we've seen these violent protests. They're erupting

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Speaker 4: Do you see signs of foreign influence, especially.

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Speaker 3: From Iran or these proxy groups really shaping the narratives

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Speaker 6: Well, we know we know from captured documents that the

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Speaker 6: Guitari has been involved in getting money to support this

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Speaker 5: It's just very interesting.

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Speaker 6: You go to campus and campus, it's the same green

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Speaker 1: That's going to be an important part of the US

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Speaker 1: about the success that the Israeli military had. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody could imagine that Iran's air defenses would be

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Speaker 2: It seems like you knew where every air defense battery was.

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Speaker 6: And every high ranking IRGC official and every senior nuclear

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Speaker 6: we did know, we know where the missiles were, we

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Speaker 6: about eighty percent of their actual missiles, and so again,

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Speaker 6: in purely military terms and purely military terms, this was

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 6: I think for the United States, if I may say,

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Speaker 6: I says is back not just as an economic power,

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Speaker 6: I think you agree with me, Rebecca and John. So

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Speaker 6: that in itself is an extraordinary strategic accomplishment. But for

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Speaker 6: this war assured that Iran will not threaten us in

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Speaker 6: the same way again, that opportunities for peace will open

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Speaker 6: up through the entire Middle East. For example, Lebanon, which

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Speaker 6: it was basically a colony of Iran for the last

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Speaker 6: several decades, will gain its independence.

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Speaker 5: It can make peace with US.

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Speaker 6: Syria, another Iranian colony, is now free, can make peace

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Speaker 5: That we can find a solution to the gaza in Rodeo.

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Speaker 5: All this is up can happen right.

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Speaker 6: Now if diplomacy is used prudently and effectively, particularly by

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've heard some lawmakers openly calling for a

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Speaker 3: Rapid regime change in Iran could cause more harm than good?

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Speaker 5: This is they are the largest state sponsor pround the world.

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Speaker 6: They've tried to assassinate the president, try to assassinate a

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Speaker 5: As you see, they didn't succeed. But all that has

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Speaker 1: There's a debate in America how much did we really

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Speaker 6: Our assessments the round has been set back for years,

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Speaker 6: And ken the United States through diplomacy, through our knuckle diplomacy,

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Speaker 5: Well, bring it on, we'd like to see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a welcome change after fifty years

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Speaker 2: Ambassador Orn is always a great honor.

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Speaker 1: You're one of my favorite authors, on top of all

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Speaker 2: But a great honor to have you on the show today.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us well as thank you, Thank you John.

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Speaker 2: Sir, good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 7: It's always great to be with you, John, Rebecca.

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Speaker 4: Really great to have you with us, sir.

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Speaker 3: First question I have for you is there are so

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Speaker 4: How is Congress really ensuring.

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Speaker 3: That taxpayer dollars are being prioritized, that we're spending that

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Speaker 8: You know, that's exactly what is the foundation, Rebecca of

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Speaker 7: Most people think of the One Big Beautiful.

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Speaker 8: We absolutely are going to get this through. The President

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Speaker 8: Well, you see exactly the protections that Israel has with

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Speaker 7: And there's a lot of other folks out there that.

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Speaker 8: It will actually protect most of most of Canada and

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Speaker 3: Now, under Joe Biden, we saw wide open borders, so

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Speaker 8: all over, and they just were able to come across

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Speaker 8: the southern border.

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Speaker 3: On the world stage, do you see that Hamas and

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Speaker 3: Hasbala have been severely weakened? Do you think that Iran's

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Speaker 3: ability to really create unrest has been weakened severely?

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Speaker 7: There is no question, without a doubt, they have been

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Speaker 7: weakened beyond imaginal imagination, and we're grateful for that. Because

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Speaker 7: of that, the world is a safer place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it, Sir.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, I just want to ask

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what happened in Africa. It's hardly

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Speaker 1: had time to get into the news with everything else

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Speaker 1: that's going on, but thirty plus years of war between

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Speaker 1: peace agreement going to be signed on Friday. In that region,

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Speaker 1: there's an enormous amount of vast minerals. I know China

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Speaker 1: will be trying to get their hands on it. But

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Speaker 1: the US brokering in this deal is at an enormous

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Speaker 1: opportunity for US to get much needed commerce going so

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Speaker 1: that we can continue our Ai revolution in America with

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Speaker 1: those minerals.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I think Africa as a continent in general is

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Speaker 8: one that America needs to engage in aggressively because there's

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Speaker 8: numerous minerals, critical, critical minerals, rare earths that we need,

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Speaker 8: and we need to make sure that China is not

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Speaker 8: raping their home land and we need to protect it

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Speaker 8: but preserve it and also work with them so it

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Speaker 8: can be mutually beneficial for both United States and Africa

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Speaker 8: as a continent altogether.

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Speaker 7: So it will only be helpful moving forward with this

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Speaker 7: peace agreement.

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Speaker 1: And there's a trade deal between US in Africa that

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Speaker 1: I think expires at the end of the year. I

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Speaker 1: know your committee's working on that. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: that has a chance of coming back in some form

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Speaker 1: by the end of the year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a go up.

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Speaker 8: It expires the end of September, and it's something that

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Speaker 8: we have been working on. I've been working with the administration.

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Speaker 8: We want to make sure that it's done right because

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Speaker 8: we want to have those appropriate trade preferences with these

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Speaker 8: countries that can be very, very beneficial for us when

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Speaker 8: it comes to the rare earths and critical minerals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what an enormous opportunity. What an enormous portfolio, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: that's on your plate right now. It's a chairman of

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Speaker 1: the Ways. It means committee. Great honor to have you

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Speaker 1: other show thy, thanks.

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Speaker 2: For joining us.

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Speaker 7: Thanks John, it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Great conversation where we learned so much when you're on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. All right, folks, we're gonna take another

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Speaker 1: commercial break. When we come back, we'll talk to former

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Speaker 1: CIA officer Sam Fattis about what our intel agencies are

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Speaker 1: He's been on the front lines of security for most

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Speaker 2: Good to have you on. Great to be here, Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much. All right, we've had.

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Speaker 1: This moment of reprieve after the extraordinary be two bombing

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Speaker 1: this weekend that bombed. I guess as we go into

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Speaker 1: a ceasefire, what is your outlook when you look out

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Speaker 1: over the next several days, what do we think is

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Speaker 1: going to happen in the Middle East? And then here

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Speaker 1: at home as well?

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Speaker 9: Well. I think the key here is that for the

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Speaker 9: Iranians anyway, the fact that they've agreed to a cease

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Speaker 9: fire means they want to breather, you know, in common terms,

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Speaker 9: they let me up off the mat, let me catch

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Speaker 9: my breath, and let me regroup. So that doesn't mean

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Speaker 9: necessarily anything's over. And when they win, and if they resume,

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Speaker 9: they'll resume on their terms and on their time schedule

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Speaker 9: and in the way they choose to. So yeah, that

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Speaker 9: could happen in a couple of days, but the fact

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Speaker 9: that it doesn't happen in a couple of days doesn't

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Speaker 9: mean it's not going to happen. And however it happens,

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Speaker 9: it'll be where they think they've got the advantage when

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Speaker 9: they respond.

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Speaker 3: And with this recent degradation of terrorist groups that are

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Speaker 3: funded by the Iranian regime, is the threat here at

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Speaker 3: home in America significantly diminished?

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Speaker 4: Are threat levels down?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I think it helps, But the fact is,

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Speaker 9: if they decide to flip the switch, I'm still very concerned.

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Speaker 4: You know, you've seen recently that.

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Speaker 9: Homeland Security and the FBI have been arresting Iranians who

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Speaker 9: are here as as far as I'm concerned, illegally who

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Speaker 9: have backgrounds, connections to the military, stuff that makes them

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Speaker 9: of significant interest.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a good start.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it can't hurt and these folks are here legally,

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Speaker 9: they should go home anyway, when the real operatives come more,

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Speaker 9: should I say, when they activate the real operatives, it

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Speaker 9: won't be a guy who came here in his true

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Speaker 9: name and told you that he used to be a

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Speaker 9: sniper in the Iranian military. It'll be a guy with

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Speaker 9: false identity documents, using a fake name and a fake background,

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Speaker 9: who knows his business and who has been trained very

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Speaker 9: highly in finding those guys and catching them is a

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Speaker 9: whole whole different game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, how vulnerable in your view is the United States

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Speaker 3: to asymmetric warfare, you know, especially with the geopolitical landscape,

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Speaker 3: and are we adapting fast enough to counter it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I think unfortunately, we are very vulnerable, and are we

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Speaker 9: adapting fast enough?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, with all due respect for everybody

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Speaker 9: in law enforcement, great men and women who are risking

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Speaker 9: their lives every day. If you're going to prevent the

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Speaker 9: Iranian Goods Force and associated you know, OIS running intelligence

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Speaker 9: and all their affiliates and all their allies like the

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Speaker 9: Venezuelans and the Cubans and everybody else, if you're going

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Speaker 9: to stop them from conducting operations on US soil, that's

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Speaker 9: going to take something at the national level with a

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Speaker 9: real counter intelligence focus. The trade craft of these folks

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Speaker 9: is very, very good, and just finding them is going

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Speaker 9: to be hard. And I'm not sure the FBI has

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Speaker 9: cracked the code on how to dog that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a concern, and I've heard that from other folks.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a real concern. So we've known

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Speaker 1: about these particularly has Bela Sleeper sALS and Hesbela really

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Speaker 1: some of the best trained of the terrorists in the world.

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Speaker 1: Talk about some of the tactics you knew they were

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Speaker 1: training for when you were back in the CIA. I know,

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Speaker 1: backpack bombs. Now I guess they probably have drones. What

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Speaker 1: are some of the things that we might look for

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Speaker 1: if they do get activated by the Iranian regime?

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Speaker 9: Going to find is that they case their targets a

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Speaker 9: long time ago. They don't get in order from above

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Speaker 9: and then start coming up with a plant.

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Speaker 7: They were out.

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Speaker 9: I mean they've been out. We've documented this for twenty

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Speaker 9: five years, right. They case the empire, state building, the

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Speaker 9: case other landmarks. That means photograph sketches, and then they

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Speaker 9: put together caches. They store explosives and weapons in advance.

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Speaker 9: So and what are they looking to carry out when

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Speaker 9: they are told to do so. Mass casualty events doesn't

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Speaker 9: for doesn't have to be a suicide, vest kind of attack,

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Speaker 9: a vehicle bomb, that kind of thing. You're not talking about.

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Speaker 9: You're looking at about. You're talking about something that, in

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Speaker 9: their terms, will make a splash, will make an impact.

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Speaker 9: And that's a horrible way to look at it, but

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Speaker 9: that's the way they look at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, as we know the effectiveness of our

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Speaker 3: agencies was compromised under Joe Biden's leadership. That is now

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Speaker 3: has the politicization of US intelligence compromised our ability to

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Speaker 3: respond quickly and effectively to these foreign threats?

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Speaker 4: And what reforms might you advocate for? Yeah, it compromised absolutely.

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Speaker 9: I mean, in the case of the CIA, if you're

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Speaker 9: a case officer, which is what I was, what everybody

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Speaker 9: would call a spy, and you know, in normal language,

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Speaker 9: how you actually do your job, which is defined as tradecraft,

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Speaker 9: was became number seven on the list of priorities for

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Speaker 9: promotion under Biden. So way after your dedication to DEI,

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Speaker 9: in all sorts of other kind or gentle or fuzzier things,

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Speaker 9: they can you do your job factor almost irrelevant on

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Speaker 9: the list of priorities and many of the senior people

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Speaker 9: at CIA, and I'm just using that as an example

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Speaker 9: because that's where I work. Many of the senior people

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Speaker 9: at CIA now are not really operational personnel. I mean

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Speaker 9: they may technically have gone to a course once, but

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Speaker 9: they have not spent careers in the field. So you know,

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Speaker 9: you're looking at an organization and this is true in

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Speaker 9: many other places that has lost its edge.

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Speaker 2: Can we get it back?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but it doesn't happen overnight.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: There's another thing I think brewing on the horizon, and

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Speaker 1: that is a growing distrust between President Trump and the

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Speaker 1: current intelligence analysts who provide them the daily briefings such

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Speaker 1: as the assessment of how much bomb damage occurred at

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Speaker 1: fourdoh and the other things. Talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: that dynamic. Trump's always been dubious of the intelligence community.

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Speaker 1: He's clearly dubious of the deep state that tried to

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Speaker 1: set him up. How does a president navigate that distrust

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Speaker 1: to get actionable intelligence still that allows him make the

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Speaker 1: best decisions for America.

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Speaker 9: Well, he should distrust them, right, I mean, they did

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Speaker 9: try to depose him, preventing from getting into office and

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Speaker 9: so forth. And I get it why he is very

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Speaker 9: dubious because honestly, many of the intel briefings getting right

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Speaker 9: now are so generic and sow watered down. And it's like, look,

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Speaker 9: if I read the newspaper, I could have written that

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Speaker 9: for you. What he's supposed to be handed at, you know,

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Speaker 9: the Crown jewels, the kind of intel that nobody else

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Speaker 9: on the planet has that gives him a critical advantage,

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Speaker 9: and he's not getting that. In my opinion, he's not

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Speaker 9: going to get that without significant personnel changes. Just putting

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Speaker 9: a director in and the number two minute CIA and

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Speaker 9: again I use that only as an example, does not

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Speaker 9: mean you are now in control of the whole apparatus.

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Speaker 9: You can have to fire a whole bunch more people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they may be missing valuable time because there hasn't

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Speaker 1: been a ton of firings yet. Sam Pattis, We always

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Speaker 1: enjoy your insights. You did the craft so well and

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Speaker 1: we're great grateful you're on the show, Tay, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good conversations always. All right, folks are going to

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Speaker 1: take a quick commercial bank. Let me come back, kinda expert.

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Speaker 1: Gordon Jack, one of my good friends he'll be here

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Speaker 1: The author of the book Plan Read China's Project to

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Speaker 2: Our good friend Gordon Change, Gordon good Avi here, Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, John and Rebecca Eck.

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Speaker 1: So much has happened in the last few weeks, but

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Speaker 1: I think the big line that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: aren't considering. We think of Iran in the context of

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Speaker 1: the Middle East, but there is a big component for

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Speaker 1: China being a loser in what we've done with Iran.

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Speaker 2: There's so many things going on.

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Speaker 10: So for instance, Iran would never have been able to

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Speaker 10: prosecute the war against Israel October seventh or it not

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Speaker 10: for Chinese support.

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Speaker 5: You know, China takes more than ninety percent of.

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Speaker 10: Iran's exports of crude oil, but Iron's own weapons are

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Speaker 10: made with Chinese microchips.

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Speaker 2: Iran has large.

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Speaker 10: Quantities of Chinese weapons, as do Iran's three main proxy groups, Hamas,

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Speaker 10: has Bela and the Huthi militia. So China's all over this,

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Speaker 10: and of course there's diplomatic support, propaganda support, and targeting

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Speaker 10: data that China supplies, for instance, to the Huthis who

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Speaker 10: use it against the US Navy.

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Speaker 4: Amazing, crazy, Thank you so much, Gordon.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you, what do you see as

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Speaker 3: the single greatest threat, the security threat here in America?

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Speaker 3: What are we facing, what are we up against? And

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Speaker 3: why aren't more Americans aware of it?

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Speaker 10: I guess the single greatest threat would be the Chinese,

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Speaker 10: Iranian and Russian networks of operatives in our country. We

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Speaker 10: know that with the open border, thousands tens of thousands

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Speaker 10: of Chinese came, most of them desperate Chinese wanting to

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Speaker 10: live in a free society. But also especially towards the

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Speaker 10: end of the Biden administration, there were a lot of

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Speaker 10: packs of Chinese males coming in from groups of four

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Speaker 10: to fifteen, and we saw them with identical kit. Now,

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Speaker 10: with this there was the uptick in tempo of incursions

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Speaker 10: and attempting incursions into our military basis, elicited surveillance of

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Speaker 10: those bases, plus elicited surveillance of our infrastructure. So those networks,

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Speaker 10: I think are ready to strike, and that to me

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Speaker 10: would be the single greatest threat.

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Speaker 1: What a Chinese cell strike on Americans so well? And

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Speaker 1: would China be ready for the repercussions?

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Speaker 10: Maybe not, but maybe they're desperate. You know, right now

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Speaker 10: we have a China where the communist parties in disarray.

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Speaker 10: We have sie Jimpin losing power. I certainly lost control

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Speaker 10: of the military. He's got problems in the civilian leadership.

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Speaker 10: We're seeing all of these signs, and so desperate people

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Speaker 10: do desperate things. So the answer to your question is

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Speaker 10: they might do anything because their threshold of risk, I believe,

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Speaker 10: is a lot lower than we think it is.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: That's something we have to keep in mind absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: In the weeks leading to the eventual attack by the

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Speaker 3: US on Iran, there were reports of these mysterious flights

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Speaker 3: between China and Iran. It seems that we don't have

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Speaker 3: a lot of information. What do you think that those

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Speaker 10: Well, there's disagreement whether those flights actually did land in

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Speaker 10: Iranian airspace. But the point is we know that people

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Speaker 10: will say, oh, they're bringing in weapons, but we know

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Speaker 10: that Ron already has those weapons, and so you know,

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Speaker 10: when you turn off your transponder, you're up.

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Speaker 5: To no goods. So this is going to be an issue.

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Speaker 10: We don't know exactly what those plans were doing, but

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Speaker 10: clearly there was something that was nefarious going on, and

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Speaker 10: eventually we will find out.

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Speaker 1: Man, we're learning more and more about China's warfare on

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Speaker 1: our own sale.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: We know about COVID nineteen, we know about the scientists

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Speaker 1: that snuck in the pathogens. Recently, Cash Hotel has given

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Speaker 1: us a whole nother body of evidence that China had

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Speaker 1: a plot to disrupt the twenty twenty election try to

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Speaker 1: get mail in ballots from Chinese citizens in Americans names,

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Speaker 1: using fake IDs to get Joe Biden to be president.

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Speaker 2: That got swept under the rug.

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Speaker 1: Is it's still important to get to that bottom of

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Speaker 1: that now five years later, Oh absolutely, because this goes

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Speaker 1: to the core of democracy. You know, somebody could not

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Speaker 1: print ballots, which is also another allegation that's occurred, and

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Speaker 1: they certainly couldn't produce fake ideas and export them to

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Speaker 1: the United States without the knowledge of the Communist Party

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Speaker 1: because it runs a near total surveillance state. And we

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Speaker 1: also have other disturbing reports of China sending in counterfeit

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Speaker 1: currency in twenty twenty automatic weapons parts.

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Speaker 5: There's just so much that it went on.

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Speaker 10: And there's that report from Radio Free Asia which said

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Speaker 10: that in twenty twenty an intelligence unit of the People's

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Speaker 10: Liberation Army based themselves in the now closed Houston Consulate

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Speaker 10: and there they use big data to identify Americans likely

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Speaker 10: to participate in violent protests, and then they sent them

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Speaker 10: quote unquote tailor made videos on how to riot. And

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Speaker 10: we learned from related reporting guys that it was tiktoks

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Speaker 10: that were used for these videos. So this was a

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Speaker 10: federal crime, of course, but there's also an act of war.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very different world that we live in today.

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Speaker 3: What is China's end game with its Belt and Roade

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Speaker 3: initiative and how successful do you think that they have

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Speaker 10: Well, they certainly have weaponized their economic relations trade and

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Speaker 10: with countries with Belton Road. You know, in our own

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Speaker 10: hemisphere there's thirty one Chinese ports that either are in

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Speaker 10: operation or now being constructed, including the megaport of Chankai

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Speaker 10: in Peru. The reason here we've got to be worried

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Speaker 10: about is that China is tying these countries to itself

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Speaker 10: in our region, but also that China could turn these

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Speaker 10: into military bases, which is what it's done in Asia

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Speaker 10: with some of these Belton Road projects. And one of

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Speaker 10: these Belton Road projects is within ninety miles of the

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Speaker 10: Florida coast. It's in Freeport in the Bahamas. So we

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Speaker 10: don't want the Chinese navy ninety miles from Florida.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: One of the places that there's growing evidence of Chinese

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Speaker 1: involvement is in South Korea, certainly with the election, the impeachments,

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Speaker 1: the unrests there.

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Speaker 2: Tell us the latest of what you know.

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Speaker 1: I know, you get a big news conference tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: how much meddling with China involved in with the South

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Speaker 1: Korean elections.

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Speaker 10: I think China was involved in the elections that were

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Speaker 10: just took place on June three, but also they've been

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Speaker 10: involved quite some time, going back to at least twenty twenty.

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Speaker 10: In the elections, there is evidence that Chinese nationals, people

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Speaker 10: who were not South Korean nationals were actually voting because

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Speaker 10: these guys were bragging online that they did it. Plus

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Speaker 10: also we know a lot of other evidence of Beijing's

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Speaker 10: interference in those South Korean elections. Those elections were marred

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Speaker 10: by widespread fraud, and we're going to talk about it

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Speaker 10: tomorrow at the National Press Club at eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: That's a big, big moment. We're going to be covering

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Speaker 1: it live here justin News. That's such an important one.

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Speaker 2: Gordon. All you've done.

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Speaker 1: You sounded the siren long before other people saw this

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Speaker 1: at from China, and we're so lucky to have you

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Speaker 1: in this country as one of our leading experts. And

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of vigilants ahead of us. But

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate that you're here all the time to

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Speaker 10: Well, I really appreciate to talk to you, so thanks guys,

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Speaker 10: Thank you Gordon.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing experts on all this stuff. Sure, all right, folks,

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Speaker 1: AMAX CEO, Rebecca Weber. And now we're going to be

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Speaker 7: Great to see you both. Rebecca and John awesome.

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Speaker 2: We love having you on. Today was an extraordinary day.

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Speaker 1: There's been twenty four hours of silence and no violence

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East, the European nations committed to a

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Speaker 1: and the world just feels a lot more secure than

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Speaker 1: it was five months ago. Rebecca opened the show saying

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Speaker 1: that your thoughts on what President Trump has already achieved

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Speaker 1: in the first part of his presidency, you know.

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Speaker 11: John and Rebecca, I start to run out of words,

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Speaker 11: which is hard for me.

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Speaker 7: I think this president is epic.

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Speaker 11: What he's done here is tantamount to what Reagan did

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Speaker 11: when he brought down the Soviet Union. What he's done

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Speaker 11: one of the most predatory, predatory, obviously terrorist and nuclear

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Speaker 11: armed states in the world. He's brought them to their

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Speaker 11: knees and he's commanded the respect of the entire world

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Speaker 11: that I would include Russia and China in that, by

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Speaker 11: force of his courage and his boldness and his willingness

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Speaker 11: to know right from wrong, which is exactly what Reagan did.

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Speaker 7: He knew right from wrong and then he.

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Speaker 11: Acted on right, and no matter how many times people

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Speaker 11: from wrong.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to do it.

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Speaker 7: And what Donald Trump did?

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, let us not forget our American

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Speaker 7: military at his behest.

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Speaker 11: An extraordinary group of courageous young Americans were behind this,

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Speaker 11: from the operational security and the intelligence planning to the

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Speaker 11: operation itself and the after and the hotwash. I mean,

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Speaker 11: this is an extraordinary moment performance by an extraordinary group

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Speaker 11: of young Americans who have trust and faith in a

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Speaker 11: president who is garnering not just trust and faith of Americans,

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Speaker 11: but the trust and faith of the world.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Bobby.

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Speaker 3: You know, we see a lot of people on the

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Speaker 3: left that are complaining that Trump did not get the

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Speaker 3: required congressional approval. What legal authority really supports the president's

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Speaker 3: ability to carry out such a strike.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So this was a president who was putting an

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Speaker 7: end to an urgent problem.

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Speaker 11: Understand that Iran had moved from twenty to sixty percent

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Speaker 11: in Richmond and had doubled the amount of enriched uranium

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Speaker 11: they had, and we're in a hot war already with Israel,

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Speaker 11: one of our closest allies, if not our closest ally

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Speaker 11: in the world. This was a surgical strike, not a

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Speaker 11: going to war. If you need to, an all out

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Speaker 11: war in which we're going to put ground troops down

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Speaker 11: and we're going to be in combat over an extended

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Speaker 11: period of predictable period of time would require congressional declaration

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Speaker 11: of war.

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Speaker 2: That's not what this is.

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Speaker 11: This was a surgical strike tantamount to what Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 11: did in October of nineteen eighty seven and in April

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Speaker 11: of nineteen eighty eight, in which he in an operation

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Speaker 11: called nimble archer destroyed half of Iran's navy. He did

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Speaker 11: that because Iran was being an aggressor. Iran was being

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Speaker 11: an aggressor here and had been, frankly through their surrogates

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Speaker 11: since October seven. Donald Trump just basically said, you know what,

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Speaker 11: We're not going to let you, a radical, reckless, inhumane,

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Speaker 11: horrifyingly in humane country, get control of nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 7: And you can come and discipline me later if you want,

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Speaker 7: But the bottom line is, I'm not going to let

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Speaker 7: that kind of tragedy befall the globe or the Middle East,

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Speaker 7: or Europe or Israel. And so, you know what, this

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Speaker 7: was not war.

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Speaker 11: This was a surgical strike that was spectacularly effective.

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Speaker 4: So, Bobby, how do you really see this playing out?

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Speaker 3: How does this strike really impact US relations with so

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Speaker 3: many other key players in the region, like Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 3: and Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Good question.

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Speaker 7: So I would say this has first order, second order,

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Speaker 7: and third order effects.

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Speaker 11: The first order effect is it's going to put a

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Speaker 11: swift end to the belligerence of Iran in the Middle East.

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Speaker 11: They'll still have talk, but they won't have the weapons

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Speaker 11: to back it up, and that will put Israel in

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Speaker 11: a better position and actually will open the door across

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Speaker 11: the entire Arab world twenty two countries if you include

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Speaker 11: Israel to a wider piece, perhaps an expansion of the

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Speaker 11: Abraham Cords, and a greater first order effect right there

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Speaker 11: in the Middle East. The second effect, I think is

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Speaker 11: that allies who.

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Speaker 7: Are I'm not talking about I'm talking about.

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Speaker 11: Our closer allies and even our secondary allies, will recognize

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Speaker 11: people like Saudi Arabia, people like Turkey. Even though Turkey

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Speaker 11: is a NATO member, they have a large Muslim poplic population.

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Speaker 11: And of course Saudi Arabia is Sunni not Shia. So

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Speaker 11: a lot of the Middle East I think is going

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Speaker 11: as a second order effect. Say, you know what, Donald

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Speaker 11: Trump shows us that there is a way to silence evil,

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Speaker 11: and let's follow him. You know, walks offly and carry

943
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Speaker 11: a big stick is what Donald Trump does. Every once

944
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Speaker 11: in a while, he uses the big stick and then

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Speaker 11: a bunch of people line up behind him. I think

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Speaker 11: that's going to happen again here in space. And then

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Speaker 11: big picture of the third order.

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Speaker 7: Effect, I think China in particular, but China.

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Speaker 11: And Russia have to be sitting back in their respective

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Speaker 11: I'll call them poll at bureaus and saying, my god,

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Speaker 11: this is guy's like Reagan. Reagan said we'd end up

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Speaker 11: on the ashy history. That's what he said to the Soviets,

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Speaker 11: and Putin was there when that happened. He when he's

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Speaker 11: he means what he says, he does what he says

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Speaker 11: he's going to do. The United States is truly the

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Speaker 11: leader of the free world. And arguably they ought to

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Speaker 11: in China ought to think hard about whether they want

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Speaker 11: to be an aggressor or whether they don't want to

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Speaker 11: perhaps begin to think in terms of a longer range,

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Speaker 11: more constructive relationship with us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hence the word epic that you use at the beginning

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Speaker 1: is an epic downstream effect of what's already occurred in

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Speaker 1: the last few days. Bobby, I want to turn inward

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Speaker 1: to the United States. There are lots of legal aliens

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Speaker 1: roaming around that we don't know who they are. We

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Speaker 1: know they're hes bull of cells here, we know there

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Speaker 1: are some Chinese military sales here. Tell us what we

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Speaker 1: all should be vigilant for over the next few months.

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Speaker 1: We've got about forty five seconds left.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the nutshell version, John, is there are sleeper cells

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Speaker 11: in this country in this hemisphere, and they are, as

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Speaker 11: you mentioned, often tied to Hezbollah, which of course is

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Speaker 11: tied to Iran. I think it's simply it doesn't mean

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Speaker 11: we panic or anything like that. Iran is not going

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Speaker 11: to activate those cells. Are they going to get hit again.

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Speaker 11: So at the end of the day, we just have

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Speaker 11: to be vigilant. There could be individual strikes on bases,

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Speaker 11: military bases, et cetera from within, But I just think

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Speaker 11: we have to be vigilant, like we were after nine

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Speaker 11: to eleven, and like we should always be.

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Speaker 2: That's a good word, vigilance, Bobby.

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Speaker 1: As always, we always appreciate your insights, your great wisdom,

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Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to that great race and name

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Speaker 7: Grateful to both of you.

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Speaker 2: So much to think about.

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