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Speaker 2: It's the final hour on this Wednesday show. Robert Griffin Junior,

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Speaker 2: the third former Heisman winner, will join us coming up

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Speaker 2: talking about show. Hey o Tani, spend some time talking

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Speaker 2: about the NFL MVP and Wyatt normally comes from a

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Speaker 2: team that's the number one or number two seed. And

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Speaker 2: if that's the case right now, Dak Prescott would be

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Speaker 2: a number five seed, but they have a chance to

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Speaker 2: be the number one seed. They have a chance to

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Speaker 2: be the number two seed, and that opens the door.

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Speaker 2: The last ten years, your MVP candidates have come from

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Speaker 2: teams either a number one or a number two seed

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Speaker 2: We'll get to phone calls coming up. No real update

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Speaker 2: on Trevor Lawrence a high ankle sprain, but still don't

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Speaker 2: know what his status is going to be this weekend.

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Speaker 2: For the Cleveland Browns NBA in season playoff, kind of

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Speaker 2: fun Pacers, Pelicans surprise surprise, and then you have the

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Speaker 2: Lakers and the Bucks. Maybe not as big as of

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Speaker 2: a surprise. Yes, Marvin, No, I like this for Tyrese Haliburton.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know about him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's this year, Shaye Guildris, Alexander Gilgis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but he was with Sacramento. That's that's incredible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's similar the team that drafted him

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Speaker 4: let him go early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shay was was he a Clipper s g A Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was the Paul George deal. Okay, yeah, yeah absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But Tyres Halliburton, he's good, he's a he's a fun player,

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, seeing a little bit of the

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Speaker 2: spotlight here because the Pacers aren't necessarily a good team.

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Speaker 2: But he's good and Zion. We're watching Zion play basketball.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those where I go, oh, that's right.

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Speaker 2: He plays in the NBA and he and he's played okay,

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Speaker 2: although Barkley called him out again and said he's not

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Speaker 2: in shape. And look, Charles can say that because Charles

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Speaker 2: was not in shape when he started out, and it

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Speaker 2: took Moses Malone to say to Charles, you have all

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Speaker 2: this talent. You got to take this seriously. You got

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Speaker 2: to you got to get it under control. And then

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Speaker 2: Charles became an m v P. I don't know if Zion,

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Speaker 2: you know, has somebody in his ear, who can you know,

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Speaker 2: Moses Malone this, you know, seasoned veteran with the Sixers

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Speaker 2: said to Charles, you know you got to get into shape.

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Speaker 2: You're fat, and Charles was. So he's speaking from experience

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Speaker 2: of what he needed. And maybe he is that voice

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Speaker 2: might not be. Charles was with Moses Malone. Everybody listened

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Speaker 2: to Moses Malone. Yes, maarv.

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Speaker 3: Charles Barkley is still incredible. He was undersized and overweight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're you know I've been around Charles many

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Speaker 2: many times. You stand next to him, he's an inch

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Speaker 2: How did you do it? But he did. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's one of those where you look at basketball players.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you just look at athletes and you go, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you do it, but you do it well.

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Speaker 2: We do this with Joker. I mean I still watch

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I saw a Nick Sixers game when Iverson

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Speaker 2: It didn't make sense, yeah, because they're listing him at

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Speaker 2: That is tall, yes, Marv.

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Speaker 3: And when I went to the All Star Game down

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Speaker 3: And I remember my friend, who was the high school coach,

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Speaker 3: I said, stop telling your five eight guards they can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, don't do that. These guys are

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Speaker 3: But sometimes, like Iverson in person, it's like, wait, this

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Speaker 2: was underrated. There's so many things where you go, how

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Speaker 2: when I saw Luca play in person and I'm going, god,

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Speaker 2: It's no nobody ever goes God, how does he do

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Speaker 2: been certainly at the quarterbacking position. You got to be

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Speaker 2: you don't have to be you can be. You know that.

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Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it. It's you can do it.

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Speaker 2: You can play the same position differently than somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Steph Curry would have been first team All Transfer

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Speaker 3: portal like he would have been gone from Davidson a sap.

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Speaker 3: You know as soon as what's that his sophomore year

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Speaker 3: he had that big tournament run. Yeah, I'm sure Roy

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Speaker 3: Williams and coach Kve may have been calling him. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying he would have transferred. They didn't take him

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Speaker 2: He might say, you know what, I have a great

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Speaker 2: coach and maybe I'll just stay here at Davidson. Or

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Speaker 2: if we know now, or if we knew then what

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Speaker 2: we know now, you might have been like I'm wanting done, man, Wait,

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Speaker 2: you can't be Yeah, I'm going to be the greatest

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Speaker 2: GM of the Timberwolves. You got to first round, you

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Speaker 2: got you don't take Johnny Flynn, take Steph Curry. Well

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Speaker 2: he didn't. He lost his job to the gym.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm glad Steph Curry stated at David Thin because

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Speaker 4: it was he was bigger than the school. Remember you

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Speaker 4: tuning in like Andy watching Steph Curry versus Villanova tonight,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, you know, Caitlyn Clark before Caitlyn Clark,

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Speaker 2: like you're turning in to watch him. Not necessarily the team,

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Speaker 2: but Steph Curry. Although people are trying to shrink that

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Speaker 2: window though Golden State like is it over? And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I can't do that. I won't do that. A couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago we started the season, I said that's

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Speaker 2: the team to beat, and they ended up winning the championship.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel as strongly about that, but I still

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Speaker 2: think with him, there's that possibility. I just think the

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Speaker 2: supporting cast has failed them, and they did a poor

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Speaker 2: drafting with James Wiseman. The supporting cast was supposed to

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Speaker 2: be like, we're going to take over you guys, don't

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Speaker 2: have to play thirty two minutes a night. Ordan Poole,

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Speaker 2: they got rid of him, acted up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, one more time, Jordan, You're going to Washington.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm all okay. That is that is a time.

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Speaker 2: That is the NBA's version of a time out. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna send you to the Washington Wizard. Good stuff, all right,

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Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here. Let me see.

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Speaker 2: How about Curtis and Illinois. Hi, Curtis, what's on your

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Speaker 2: one today morning?

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Speaker 1: DP?

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Speaker 2: Listening yesterday?

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Speaker 5: And when you went to Seaton for the poll question results,

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Speaker 5: I noticed that little delay in his response, And I

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Speaker 5: remember how upset and kind of disappointed you were in CHRISA.

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Speaker 5: Thompson once you made up those sideline reports, like you've

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Speaker 5: kind of felt that disappointment before. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 5: Seaton would make up results for the stats, but I

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Speaker 5: remember McLevin saying that he did. And is that the

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Speaker 5: real reason that he's no longer on the.

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Speaker 3: Show, h.

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Speaker 2: Is that the real reason? Is that a reason why

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Speaker 2: he's not on? Reason? Yeah, ah, reason. We're happy that

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Speaker 2: Andrew mcleven pearl Off has moved on and he's doing

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Speaker 2: morning radio, and we're very happy for him. Continue to

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Speaker 2: wish them, Yes, we do wish him all the best.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm not as good at Andrew as making up

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Speaker 6: the poll results when I don't have them ready. And

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Speaker 6: that's something that I've been working on, is not only

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Speaker 6: having them ready in the moment more often, but when

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Speaker 6: I don't have them ready, one, I usually have to

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Speaker 6: try and remember what the hell's the poll question today,

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Speaker 6: and then I have to try and remember what the

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Speaker 6: options are, and then I try to make up the results.

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Speaker 6: It's usually just faster to just be like, hey, Dan,

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Speaker 6: hold on second, I'm not ready, yeah, which is usually

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have occasionally made them up, but I'm just

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Speaker 2: I'm really not good at it. He was great, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then McLevin would eventually say, hey, I made those up,

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Speaker 2: and I go, how about we You know, we are

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Speaker 8: Well, the Heisman trophy is in my closet right now.

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Speaker 8: they do more than just hand out the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we've got the Humanitarian Award this year that's

433
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Speaker 8: going to Solomon Thomas from the New York Jets at

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Speaker 8: defensive end. The Trust has donated over twenty five million dollars,

435
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Speaker 8: you know, especially to programs like the high school Heisman

436
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Speaker 8: that they have and for me personally being able to

437
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Speaker 8: work with them, you know, since I won the award

438
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Speaker 8: in twenty eleven has truly been a joy, and they

439
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Speaker 8: do so much in the community that they've helped me

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Speaker 8: do so much in the community, giving back and helping

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Speaker 8: with food and security that I felt like it was

442
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Speaker 8: it was very warranted to come on here and not

443
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Speaker 8: just sing their praises, but also be excited about the

444
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Speaker 8: guys that we have potentially coming to join that Heisman fraternity.

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Speaker 2: I think they're all worthy of the award.

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Speaker 8: Talking about Michael Pennix Junior, Jayden Daniels, bow Knicks, and

447
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Speaker 8: of course Marvin Harrison Junior out there playing like his daddy.

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Speaker 2: It's really cool to see these guys.

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Speaker 8: Have an opportunity to join this fraternity, and I look

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Speaker 8: forward to the ceremony coming up on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think will win?

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Speaker 8: Who?

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Speaker 2: That's a good that's a great question. Dan.

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Speaker 8: You know, you've been in this business a very long time,

455
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Speaker 8: so you know I can't disclose my vote.

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Speaker 2: But who do you think will win? That doesn't mean

457
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Speaker 2: who you voted for. Who do you think will win?

458
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Speaker 2: You've been in the industry a long time, so you

459
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Speaker 2: know how to answer the questions.

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Speaker 8: I think, at the end of the day, collectively, around

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Speaker 8: the country you'll see that Jaydon Daniels probably did the

462
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Speaker 8: most to win the award. Passing yards, touchdowns all very

463
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Speaker 8: similar to bow Knicks. Michael Pennix Junior led the country

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Speaker 8: in passing yards, but it was what jad and Daniels

465
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Speaker 8: did on the ground rushing for one thousand yards. Only

466
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Speaker 8: player in college football to have three thousand, five hundred

467
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Speaker 8: yards passing and a thousand yards rushing. There was just

468
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Speaker 8: so much there, and bow next, I feel like, had

469
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Speaker 8: an opportunity to win it in the Pactual Championship game,

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Speaker 8: but because he got beat twice by Michael Pennick Junior,

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Speaker 8: there might be some people that put a damper on that.

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Speaker 8: But I could see it being a blowout race for

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Speaker 8: Jayson Daniels. I could also see it being very close

474
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Speaker 8: because this year there's a lot of worthy finalists who.

475
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Speaker 2: Turned in the greatest season in your recent memory that

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Speaker 2: a quarterback has. What's the one that stands out more

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Speaker 2: than any.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think I know where you're going

479
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Speaker 8: with this. For me, it was probably Joe Burrow the

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Speaker 8: l s U year. Just talked to him on the

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Speaker 8: sideline of the Bengals Jags Monday night football game. You know,

482
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Speaker 8: with his injury, and we're talking about that year. They

483
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Speaker 8: were just so dominant, and it's just funny because Jaden

484
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Speaker 8: Daniels had a better year, uh statistically than Joe Burrow

485
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Speaker 8: did that season, and we saw how Joe Burrow ran

486
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Speaker 8: away with the Heisman Trophy. So it's, uh, it's one

487
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Speaker 8: of those deals of that. It's pretty really impressive year

488
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Speaker 8: what Jaydon Daniels did.

489
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Speaker 2: But you look back, Manziel had an unbelievable year. You did, Cam.

490
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Speaker 2: I don't know who else you spring, you know, Burrow

491
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Speaker 2: obviously in there, anybody else that you throw Caleb Williams

492
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Speaker 2: the year the previous one was a great year. By

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Speaker 2: the way, Any problem with him not playing in the ball.

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Speaker 8: Game, I don't have a problem with Caleb not playing

495
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Speaker 8: in the ball game. Is that is that out there

496
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Speaker 8: that he's not playing?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 8: So yeah, okay, so yeah, And I got no problem.

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Speaker 8: Like I said, I called Kenny Pickett's GA when he

500
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Speaker 8: had the fake slide with Mark Jones and Clin Kessenik,

501
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Speaker 8: and then we had their ball game and Kenny didn't

502
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Speaker 8: play in their ball game, and we all understood why,

503
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Speaker 8: Like there's an opportunity there to go you know, make

504
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Speaker 8: generational wealth. And I've got no problem with Caleb not

505
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Speaker 8: playing this year in a ball game because last year

506
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Speaker 8: he played in the ball game when he wasn't even

507
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Speaker 8: seventy five percent healthy. So I think he's proven that

508
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Speaker 8: he's willing to put it on the line for his guys,

509
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Speaker 8: And in this moment, if he is going to go

510
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Speaker 8: pro and decides not to play that ball game, then

511
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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody should hold that against him.

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Speaker 2: We had Dan Orlovsky on First Hour and we were

513
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Speaker 2: talking about structure in college or lack of structure, that

514
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Speaker 2: Caleb was wonderful out of structure, but in the NFL

515
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Speaker 2: you have to have structure. Yeah, you have to be

516
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Speaker 2: able to at some point. And you know, he wondered

517
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Speaker 2: about that that he was sort of out of structure

518
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Speaker 2: because they had to score forty points. You know, maybe

519
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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley didn't say, hey, I need you to do this,

520
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Speaker 2: like he had to improvise a lot. That transition from

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Speaker 2: what you can get away with college to what you

522
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Speaker 2: can get away with in the pros. How big of

523
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Speaker 2: a transition is that for quarterbacks who are similar athletically

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Speaker 2: to Caleb.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think the answer The question specifically

526
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Speaker 8: is that the windows in the NFL are tighter. And

527
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Speaker 8: it's not just because the hash marks are closer together.

528
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Speaker 8: It's because the guys are bigger, they're faster. There's a

529
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Speaker 8: better understanding of how NFL defenses are trying to attack

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Speaker 8: an NFL offense. Now, do I think that that could

531
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Speaker 8: be thrown off. It could be thrown off. Look at

532
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Speaker 8: what Chip Kelly did with the Eagles in his first year.

533
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Speaker 8: It's just the concepts in the NFL have become so

534
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Speaker 8: repeatable that if you've been in the league for seven years,

535
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Speaker 8: you've seen every single route tree and combination that there

536
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Speaker 8: is known to man in those NFL offenses. So they're

537
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Speaker 8: a little bit faster to understand things are happening. And

538
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Speaker 8: there's no there's not as many fishes what we call

539
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Speaker 8: them on the field where you go into the game

540
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Speaker 8: you're like, all right, this safety or this corner is

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Speaker 8: the worst player on the field, We've got to attack him.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're basically attacking all Americans from college at

543
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Speaker 8: every stop that you go in the NFL. So I

544
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Speaker 8: think that is a little bit of adjustment for guys.

545
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Speaker 8: The game is a little bit faster, but I think

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Speaker 8: it's just simply a talking point. When guys bring up

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Speaker 8: the fact that Caleb Williams didn't play within structure, I

548
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Speaker 8: don't think that's real. I think what happens with Kayleb

549
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Speaker 8: Williams is he goes through the structure and that because

550
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Speaker 8: he's so dynamic after the play breaks down, that is

551
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Speaker 8: what we focus on. So we see all the highlight

552
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Speaker 8: reel runs in the highlight reel scrambles. But this guy

553
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Speaker 8: does play within structure. And he went to a quarterback

554
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Speaker 8: camp called the QB Collective, which has guys like the

555
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Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahans and the Mike McDaniels and the Sean mcvays,

556
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Speaker 8: and he worked with them at a very young age.

557
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Speaker 8: And I can tell you right now the NFL scouts

558
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Speaker 8: and NFL coaches cannot wait to get their hands on

559
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Speaker 8: Kayleb Williams. They know he can play with instructure. They

560
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Speaker 8: just love the fact that he can be creative outside

561
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Speaker 8: of it. A la Patrick Mahomes, you.

562
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Speaker 2: Had world class speed, but let's look at Tyreek Hill's speed.

563
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Speaker 2: How would you describe There's fast and then fast. Guys

564
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Speaker 2: looking at somebody saying that guy's fast, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

565
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Speaker 2: Tyreek is he's uh, he's instant grits, you know what

566
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Speaker 2: I mean?

567
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Speaker 8: Like when he as soon as he puts his foot down,

568
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Speaker 8: he's at full speed.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the difference.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate you saying that I have world class speed,

571
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Speaker 8: have world class speed, but there's a difference.

572
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Speaker 2: Between like do you still have world class speed? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 8: There's there's a difference between Usain Bolt on a track

575
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Speaker 8: having world class speed and then being able to have

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Speaker 8: that translate on.

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Speaker 2: A football field.

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Speaker 8: If you Sain Bolt and Tyreek raced, I certainly believe

579
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Speaker 8: that Usain Bolt is winning that race. But when you

580
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Speaker 8: talk about being able to run and cut and change

581
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Speaker 8: direction and catch the ball and get vertical and break

582
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Speaker 8: down and come out of your break, that's where just Tyreek, uh,

583
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Speaker 8: he sets himself apart from everybody else in the league.

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Speaker 8: I just had him on the show on RG three

585
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Speaker 8: in the ones and he was talking about how he's

586
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Speaker 8: trying to put on for short kings and he's doing that.

587
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Speaker 8: Uh there, Tyreek hills do not grow on trees. And

588
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Speaker 8: because his ability as soon as he puts his foot down,

589
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Speaker 8: he's at full speed. That's why you see DB's so

590
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Speaker 8: afraid to cover him, and they really can't cover him.

591
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Speaker 8: He has to make a mistake for them to be

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Speaker 8: able to cover him. And I think we've seen that

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Speaker 8: this year. Is he's on pace to you know, break

594
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Speaker 8: that two thousand yard barrier, and I think he should

595
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Speaker 8: beat the MVP right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay. If I did a sixty yard dash, yep, Tyreek

597
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Speaker 2: Hill and you Sain Bolt, yep, who wins?

598
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean sixty yard dash. You saying Bolt to

599
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Speaker 8: one in that race?

600
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Speaker 2: Not right now? I don't know. Oh, don't don't play,

601
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: don't do dude, do do that?

602
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Speaker 8: Tyrek in is sixty and a sixty and a forty

603
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Speaker 8: a forty?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Can he beat him in a four in forty?

605
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Speaker 2: Has a chance? Okay? But he has a chance.

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Speaker 8: But even on a track, if you put Tyrek in

607
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Speaker 8: a forty in comparison to Usain Bolt on a track, yeah,

608
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Speaker 8: same Bolt wins that race. There's a difference between track

609
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Speaker 8: speed and football speed.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Okay, what if we put him on

611
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Speaker 2: the football field. What if we did?

612
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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a video out there of Usain Bolt running

613
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Speaker 8: a forty at like some event, and maybe it was

614
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 8: a super Bowl or something, and he went fast and

615
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 8: he ran.

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Speaker 2: Like a four to one.

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Speaker 8: So don't get it twisted that are listening right now,

618
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Speaker 8: understand I know the difference between track speed and football speed.

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Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill is the fastest human being that plays football. Okay, period,

620
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Speaker 8: end of story. He's not faster than Usain Boat.

621
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Speaker 2: Did you reach out to the Jets to try to

622
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Speaker 2: play quarterback for them? You mean like Colin Kaepernick? I

623
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Speaker 2: didn't you did that. I didn't. But there are stories

624
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Speaker 2: that you have offered your services. Oh no, no, no I haven't.

625
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Speaker 2: I haven't.

626
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Speaker 8: I personally have not reached out to a team to say, yeah,

627
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Speaker 8: has a representative?

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Speaker 2: Has a representative reached out? Oh yeah, I mean representatives

629
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Speaker 2: reach out all the time. Well, but damn to have

630
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: your approval? Oh no, they don't, No, no, they don't.

631
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Speaker 8: If you have an agent, If you have an agent

632
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Speaker 8: and someone's reaching out to teams on your behalf, they

633
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 8: don't ask you if they can reach out to that team.

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00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: They just reach out to the team. So what I'll

635
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: say is what I have.

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00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 8: Done is I have publicly stated that I can play,

637
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Speaker 8: I'm willing and able to play.

638
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: I want to play, And if a team just so

639
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: happy to call my number. I'm credit to play. I

640
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: have said that. I said the Browns should have signed me.

641
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: I thought they should have. They did win with Joe Flacco.

642
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 8: Guess what, Joe Flacco looked really good this past week

643
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 8: For a god that's just coming off off the couch.

644
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 8: He looked really good going out there playing. And I'm

645
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 8: sure the Jets wish they had Joe Blacko right now

646
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 8: or Jack Wilson because they need him back badly.

647
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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you make of the Zach Wilson situation?

648
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: How does this happen? Robert? It's so funny, man.

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Speaker 8: I will say this, Aaron Rodgers is one hundred percent

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Speaker 8: right when he talks about the sources in the building

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Speaker 8: going out there and trying to undercut Zach Wilson. Now,

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Speaker 8: that is completely wrong. I'm sure Rogers has experienced it

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Speaker 8: at some point in his career. I certainly did. That's

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Speaker 8: not what winning organizations do, so I agree with him

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Speaker 8: on that. For the Zach Wilson thing, to me, it

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Speaker 8: was hilarious watching the clip of him and Aaron on

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Speaker 8: the sideline because it definitely looked like Aaron said something

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Speaker 8: along the lines of yeah and they thought you were

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Speaker 8: the problem. When you get someone else out there and

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Speaker 8: you now cut the guy that you benched Zack Wilson

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Speaker 8: for and are now starting another guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was.

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Speaker 8: Clear to me and I've said it. It wasn't all

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Speaker 8: on Zach Wilson. They only started the other guys because

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Speaker 8: they felt like they had to do something. Now they're

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Speaker 8: seeing that Zach Wilson is best quarterback they have on

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Speaker 8: the team that's helping, and they need to start and

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Speaker 8: he should play. And I don't think that he's shying

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Speaker 8: away from wanting to play. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 8: the team having his best interest at.

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Speaker 2: Heart, and that's I think the real point. And Booger

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Speaker 2: brought this up. They've quit on him. Yeah, like they

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Speaker 2: kicked him to the curt put him in, let him play,

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Speaker 2: let him play the rest of the year. Tim Boyle

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Speaker 2: is not an NFL quarterback. It just not might be

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Speaker 2: great in the quarterback room. Trevor Simeon is not a

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Speaker 2: starting quarterback. If we're gonna find out about Zack Wilson,

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Speaker 2: let's find out now. You're gonna find out more about

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Speaker 2: him than you will at any other point in his life.

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Speaker 2: In his career. When he's down, now, let's see what

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Speaker 2: you got. Throw him in there, let him go good

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Speaker 2: or bad. He's not going to be with the team

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Speaker 2: next year. Feels like some coaches are covering up for themselves,

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Speaker 2: trying to protect themselves that it's Zack Wilson's the issue,

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Speaker 2: not them. Man.

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Speaker 8: That's a strong statement. And then I don't disagree with

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Speaker 8: that at all. I think two reasons they need to

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Speaker 8: start Zach Wilson. One, he's the best quarterback they have.

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Speaker 8: That is clear and evident. And he's the most talented

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Speaker 8: quarterback that they have. And at this point, like you said,

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Speaker 8: his response, what do you do when you're completely back

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Speaker 8: into a corner but you literally have nothing to lose.

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Speaker 2: You will be here next year.

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Speaker 8: Go out there, let that dog hunt. And I mean,

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Speaker 8: would you say the Jets season is over right now? Yeah,

696
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Speaker 8: then they have nothing to lose putting Zach Wilson back

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Speaker 8: out there. Let him go play and put him in

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Speaker 8: the best position to be successful.

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Speaker 2: Let him throw the ball forty five times.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, they can't run it, so you might

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Speaker 8: as well let him go out there and be a

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Speaker 8: gunslinger and see what he can show.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the league. Great to talk to you always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you, Dan b Robert Griffin Junior.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was wondering about Aaron Rodgers with his

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Speaker 2: comments yesterday. I don't think he refuted the report by

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Speaker 2: the three reporters talking about Zach Wilson. I think he

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Speaker 2: was angry at those leaking the information for a character assassination.

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Speaker 2: That's different now, somebody's leaking the information to these reporters

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Speaker 2: and a character assassination here with Zach Wilson. But did

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson actually say this too people in the building

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Speaker 2: that shouldn't be lost here because I don't think Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers refuted that report. Here is Aaron Rodgers talking about

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Speaker 2: those talking to the media.

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Speaker 9: What is your impetus? What is your motivation to try

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Speaker 9: and bury someone like that? And that's a problem with

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Speaker 9: the organization. You know, we need to get to the

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Speaker 9: bottom of whatever this is coming from and put a

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Speaker 9: stop to it privately, because there's no place in a

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Speaker 9: winning culture where and there's been this is not the

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Speaker 9: only time. There's been a bunch of other leaks.

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Speaker 2: I think it's.

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Speaker 9: At its core, and you know, I think it has

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Speaker 9: no place in a winning organization to be to be

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Speaker 9: a source, not especially not being an assassinate it somebody's character,

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Speaker 9: and especially not when it's someone that I really love

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Speaker 9: and care about, like Zach Willison.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did he say this two players to management? Two coaches?

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Speaker 2: Because Diana Russini is doubling down on that report from yesterday,

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Speaker 2: saying today that Zach Wilson made it known publicly that

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Speaker 2: he was reluctant to play a number of people. If

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has a problem, it's a problem inside his

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Speaker 2: own building. Nobody else the media is going to take it.

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Speaker 2: It's hand delivered to them. Of course, it's a big story.

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Speaker 2: It's New York, it's the Jets, Aaron Rodgers involved in it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think at any point in that interview

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Speaker 2: with Pat McAfee did he say it is And I'm

749
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Speaker 2: adamant that that is not true. It is not accurate. Now,

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Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't know, but it feels like there has

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Speaker 2: been something that's been in the building for a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks. According to Diana Russini. She doubled down on

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Speaker 2: that today and said this was public knowledge and if

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has the problem, this is your organization. What

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Speaker 2: are you going to do? I remember when I worked

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Speaker 2: at the Mothership and there were all kinds of leaks

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Speaker 2: that would go out to the New York Post, members

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Speaker 2: of the media that covered TV, and I remember one

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Speaker 2: of my bosses said, if I find out who leaked this,

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Speaker 2: you're going to be fired. Nobody was ever fired, no one,

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Speaker 2: So you know we have these all I'm grandstanding here, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is upset about it. What are you gonna

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Speaker 2: doin out? Then? What are you gonna do? Not play

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Speaker 2: for them next year? And he says, this is about

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Speaker 2: a winning organization. You're not a winning organization. It feels

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Speaker 2: like guys are trying to cover for themselves. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't think you need a smear campaign. Zach Wilson's done

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Speaker 2: that when he gets on the football field. He's the

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Speaker 2: one that committing, you know, character assassination. He's doing it

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Speaker 2: to himself. If he says, I'm reluctant to go out

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Speaker 2: there and play, but I think the Jets did him

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Speaker 2: dirty by I'm going to have you in and now

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you out. Is he better than Tim Boyle? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Is he better than Trevor Simeon? Absolutely? Let him go

775
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Speaker 2: out there. Let him just play. We're not taking you out. Survive.

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Speaker 2: Let me see what you're made of. You're gonna show

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Speaker 2: me a whole lot more now than you did when

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Speaker 2: you're at BYU. Can you play? Do you want to play?

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Speaker 2: Do you understand what it's like to get kicked and

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Speaker 2: get back up? That's what I want to know. But

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Speaker 2: I would have pressed Aaron Rodgers to say, Aaron, are

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Speaker 2: you saying this report is not true? Because that's different

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Speaker 2: than blaming people who are leaking this information. Let me see,

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Speaker 2: we've got time for final results of the poll. Question

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Speaker 2: this day in sports history? What do we have, Pauli?

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Speaker 2: Sports history?

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Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty the Gene Autry was granted the Los Angeles

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Speaker 4: Angels baseball franchise by the American League.

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Speaker 2: About that, right onk you gene Autry country he has.

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Speaker 4: Start yes, nineteen eighty eight the Milwaukee Bucks one game

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Speaker 4: number one thousand, and in nineteen ninety, the NHL granted

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Speaker 4: membership to the Tampa Bay Lightning and the Autawa Senators.

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Speaker 2: How about on this date, two players scored fifty one

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Speaker 2: points each. It's the first time in thirty eight years

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Speaker 2: that two players scored at least fifty in the same game.

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Speaker 2: The year's two thousand, Kobe. Yeah, but that's that's not

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Speaker 2: the real trivia. Here one hand, mm hmm. Let's see

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Speaker 2: plated North Carolina Pauli, Antoine Jamison, Antoine Jabis. That's a

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Speaker 2: big hand. Thank you. Yeah, let's go around the room.

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Speaker 2: What we learned on this program, tod I'm gonna start

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Speaker 2: with you. What'd you learn today?

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Speaker 3: Dan A.

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Speaker 2: Lootski thinks the Eagles of vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: Why the offensive line is not dominating the line of

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Speaker 4: screamers their offensivelex identity.

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Speaker 3: They struggle and zone and man coverage, and he has

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Speaker 2: Just celebrating and celebrating with an edge. Have a great day, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you tomorrow.