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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome again to our Inside the Draft series here on

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Speaker 1: coming back. This is our weekly look at the upcoming

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft at the end of April, which is on

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Speaker 1: a near horizon. I'm Matt Taylor, joined today by Casey

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Speaker 1: Valier and Studio, and we're in the height of NFL

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Speaker 1: free agency, so we'll try to combine free agency news

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Speaker 1: and the draft with our talk today with NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: insider Chris Trepasso from CBS Sports. Chris, good to have

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Speaker 1: you back on sir. How are you. I'm doing pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me again. Absolutely, So let's start with

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Speaker 1: the draft. We just had the NFL Combine a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. That's obviously a huge part of the draft process.

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Speaker 1: From there, what are a few of your combined fallouts

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Speaker 1: and takeaways from those four five days in Indianapolis With

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Speaker 1: all the prospects well, first and foremost, we have a

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Speaker 1: super fast wide receiver class again, and it feels like

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Speaker 1: just because what the college game is doing in terms

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Speaker 1: Not only is it a very good wide receiver class

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Speaker 1: again and almost every year, but like that twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: another really really fast class. I think it kind of

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Speaker 1: That being able to be really good after the catch

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Speaker 1: I thought the defensive linemen in general were awesome there

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Speaker 1: we saw that their arms are a little bit better

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Speaker 1: like Desmond Ritter to test as well as he did,

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Speaker 1: for in today's quarterback that you have to be really

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Speaker 1: athletic and be able to improvise outside the pocket. Now

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Speaker 1: you brought up wide receiver and quarterback. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: an ongoing search at both positions for the Colts this

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Speaker 1: offseason and the cults are looking for a long term

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Speaker 1: complimentary pieces to Michael Pittman Jr. Who went over a

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Speaker 1: thousand yards last year and year number two. Which receivers

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Speaker 1: that are targeted for Round two or three by you

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Speaker 1: most intrigue you and guys that you think can still

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Speaker 1: Day two of the draft. Okay, if anyone has followed

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Speaker 1: probably round to sky More from Western Michigan, he had

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. That's christ Passo. Follow him on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Christ Passo, NFL Draft Insider for CBS Sports dot Com.

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Speaker 1: You know, we heard reports heading into free agency, Chris

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Speaker 1: a third different left tackle three consecutive years on that

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard would like the athletic profile of Cam Taylor

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Speaker 1: what the Colts want out of their corners. The ability

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Speaker 1: the field. Chris, I know your schedule is very busy,

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Speaker 1: And I think we saw that late in the year

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Speaker 1: number three to give them huge money. I think they're

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Speaker 1: in a situation it's talk to not totally bash the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: They have to kind of pay a tax to go

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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. Yes, you're in Florida with no income tax,

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we've seen some of those deals

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Speaker 1: that could and will ultimately shape how good or how

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Speaker 1: underachieving this team is. I still think they need to

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Speaker 1: go offensive lineman, even though they signed branded ship, they

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Speaker 1: if I'm done Peterson the new head coach, I'll worry

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Speaker 1: about the defense later in the draft. Let's pick Evan

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Speaker 1: Neil or ikey Akwanu from North Dakota or from MT.

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Speaker 1: State or even Charles Cross from Mississippi State. Let's build

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Speaker 1: as good of an offensive line as possible in front

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Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. With these, you know, some of these

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Speaker 1: good ade rusher class. And that's no knock on Aiden

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Speaker 1: add drusher, you can allocate your draft resources the number

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Speaker 1: one pick in the draft a lot smarter because I'm

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Speaker 1: of the opinion any team, especially when you're rebuilding and

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Speaker 1: you have a young quarterback, if you're kind of flipping

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Speaker 1: a coin between an ade rusher or someone that's going

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Speaker 1: to help your offense, go offense the league. It's an

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Speaker 1: offensive bas league, and a someone on that side of

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Speaker 1: is going to move the needle more, even if you

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Speaker 1: could draft, you know, a ten sack add rusher. Chris

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Speaker 1: Trepasso again online Twitter at Chris Trepasso. Thanks, as always

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Speaker 1: for the time of the insight heading into the draft, Chris,

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate it. Now you're one of our favorites.

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Speaker 1: You're a staple, so hopefully we can talk to you

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Speaker 1: again down the road heading into late April, if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind, And continued success there online at cbssports dot com.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely thanks