1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, third hour of play and Buck kicks 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: off right now. 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being here with us. 4 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot today about whatever we can 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: figure out when it comes to the Harris walls of policies, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: and one area where it's really going to be opaque, 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: maybe nonexistent, is foreign policy. Let's talk to our friend 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Bridge Colby about this for a moment. He is a 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: principal of the Marathon initiative and he's also a former 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Pentagon official under the Trump administration. 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Mister Bridge Colby, great to have you back. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Great to be with you. All right, so let's start 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: with the I think we can just take as a 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: given that there hasn't been a lot of specifics from 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: the Kamala campaign about what their foreign policy would be. 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: But if we're going to assume it is an extension 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: of the Biden policy and then add in whatever specifics 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: we can divine from the statements that have been made 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: on her behalf, Really, what do we know about what 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: a what a Kabala Harris Tim Wall's foreign policy would 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: look like? 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we don't know much. And don't take 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: this from you and me. 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 4: I think the Wall Street Journal actually ran a piece 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: like a week or two ago saying people just don't 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: know what she stands for. And of course she's you know, 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: moving off of positions that she did take, so it's 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 4: really all speculation. 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: What I would say is my read is that she's. 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 4: Basically going to be like closer to a standard issue 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 4: Democratic Party sort of activist of the contemporary period. 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: So I'm just, you know. 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: Cars on the table not a big fan of President 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 4: Biden said the least. But President Biden, you know, does 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: kind of at least he thinks of himself, and he 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: tries to harken back to sort of an earlier period. 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: Obviously his you know, historically his close relationship to Israel, 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: the connection to NATO and so forth. And if you 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 4: look at some of his top leadership, Jake John Finer, 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: Kirk Campbell, Eli Rattner, Frank Kendall, a lot of these people, 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I have my criticisms of them, 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: but I you know, I think they're not dreamy idealists, 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: you know, to the to the contrary. So I think 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris, what we can see her top person, for instance, 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: is a guy named Phil Gordon. He was in the 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 4: Obama administration was in the Clinton administration. You know, for instance, 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: he signed a letter that was put out in the 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: Washington Post about five years ago, and if you read 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: the letter about China. If you read the letter, a 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: lot of it seems kind of unobjectionable to it because 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: they kind of create fake straw men. But it was 52 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: basically written to push back on the shift on China 53 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: that that was happening under the Trump administration that you know, 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: Jake Sullivan and Kirk Campbell and these guys have tried 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: to take over. I mean, we have a debate about 56 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: who's better at it, but that's what leads me to 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 4: think like we should sort of expect more like the 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: center of this sort of democratic party than what we've gotten, 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: even from Joe Biden, which is which is pretty darn progressive, 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: and so that worries me. You know, I know she, 61 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: for instance, a few years ago, she said she wants 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: to cut the defense budget. I mean, I'm not one 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: of these people is out there saying, which triple the 64 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: defense budget, but the cutting the defense budget in this time, 65 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: that's pretty worrying. So again, a lot of this is 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: speculation and inference, but I think she's going to be 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 4: more sort of progressive even than Biden. 68 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I would offer, just from the political pugilist 69 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: side of this equation, that it's supposed to be this 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: is what they want, which is that the foreign policy 71 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: is whatever they have to say it is in the minute, 72 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: and nobody actually knows what it is, So then it's 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: a harder target, do you know what I mean? It's 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're sort of punching at the wind. 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: And and I think that that's a larger theme in 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: the campaign overall. But let's drill down then into reality 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: and the here and now for a second. 78 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: On the foreign policy scene, one thing. 79 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: That well, I'm a little bit surprised. 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: Yea, mind if I say one thing just on that 81 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: peah of course, it is just you know, look, I 82 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: think you're putting your finger on something, which is we 83 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: are in an exceptionally dangerous period where we've got a 84 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: wild mismatch between a rhetoric that Biden and others have 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: gotten us into and the fact that there are multiple 86 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: wars around the world and the resources that we are 87 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: putting at that problem in terms of the defense budget 88 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 4: and so forth. 89 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: And the American people are willing to put it at 90 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: the problem. 91 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: The New York Times even was reporting today that the 92 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: Russians and Chinese are co op collaborating more on military 93 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: operations than ever before. And so President Trump, I think, 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: is putting something out there saying we're. 95 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: In the verge of World War three. 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: We need to be strong, but we also need to 97 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 4: use the military sparingly, as I think the Platform correctly said, 98 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 4: and I mean, I agree with that, but that's a 99 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: serious message in a very serious time. We don't have 100 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: time for this kind of fluff where people are just 101 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: kind of message testing it. We've got If you're going 102 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 4: to pursue the kind of ridiculous in my well, the 103 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: overly expansive Biden approach, you got to back that up 104 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 4: with big defense spending increases. 105 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: You got to do X y Z. 106 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: She's showing none of that, so she's not having a 107 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 4: political mandate, so she's you know, in a sense, like 108 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: the analogy I used, we're heading towards the Titanic, at 109 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: least offer us a way to not hit the iceberg, 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: and here we're just having to guess at what the 111 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: captain is proposing as we hurtle towards the iceberg. Whereas 112 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: I think President Trump and Senator Vance are offering a 113 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: very clear and I think very common sense and the 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: right approach, but. 115 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: At minimum should be able to evaluate. Isn't that what 116 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: democracy is about? 117 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, right, well, as you can see 118 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: everyone can see I think now pretty clearly on one 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: of the hotspot issues, which is Israel Hamas slash Hesbala 120 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: slash Iran. The Democrats that they want to just have 121 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: a deafening silence on this to degree they can right 122 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: before the election, because they can't have it both ways, 123 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: and for their electorate they need to have it both ways, 124 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: and that's that's going to be a challenge for them. 125 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: We're speaking of Bridge Colby, principal of the Marathon initiative. Bridge, 126 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: tell me about this incursion into Kursk and the Ukraine 127 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: front and how this has changed. 128 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 2: Is this a big deal? I'm actually a little surprised. 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Given all the you know, Slava Ukraine and the flags 130 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: and everything we see from Democrats. There's not more talk 131 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: about this right now, but I guess it's just full 132 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: throttle Kamala is like you know, Jesus or whatever. So 133 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: what does this mean that there's been a counter offensive 134 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: by Ukraine in your Russian territory. 135 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: Well, just parenthetically on that. 136 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: I think David Sachs put this out that like the 137 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: Kamala image on the front of Time, where she actually 138 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: does kind of look like a religious icon. 139 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: The most important part was that she declined to comment 140 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: for the article. 141 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 4: Everything you talked about, Yes, yes, it's surreal, it's like 142 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: beyond mockery. 143 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: But it's a great question. 144 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think I was certainly surprised taken Aback, 145 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: I would say impressed by the Ukrainians prowess. I think 146 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: we have yet to figure out what's going on. Zelenski 147 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: started talking about in others Ukrainians senior leaders. It's not 148 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: immediately clear, entirely clear to me what their goals are. 149 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: Are they trying to like discombobulate the Russians. Are they 150 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: trying to seize territory to hold his leverage for future negotiations, 151 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: That's what Putin was suggesting. Are they trying to kind 152 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: of change the narrative away from you know, the sort 153 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: of the steady progress that the Russians are making in 154 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: the main theater, which in the East. I have to 155 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: say I'm skeptical and i'd probably even go farther. I 156 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: don't think that this is going to change the fundamentals, 157 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: you know. I mean, and even in the time New 158 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: York Times reporting this morning, there's real questions. American officials 159 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: were apparently saying off the record as they usually do, 160 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: or sort of anonymously, you know, we're not sure that 161 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: the Ukrainians made the best decision. We're not exactly sure 162 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: what they're trend to say. But I think the jury 163 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: is still out. But look, I think what we've seen 164 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: in Ukraine over the last two and a half years 165 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: plus is there's no fancy, kind of decisive blitzkrieg style, 166 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: you know, thing that totally transforms. It didn't happen for 167 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: the Russians at the beginning, it didn't happen for the 168 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: Ukrainians in late twenty twenty two or in the big 169 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: counter offensive in twenty twenty three, and so it's still 170 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: a matter of numbers and resolve, and I think, unfortunately 171 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: that favors the Russians. And so this might help, you know, 172 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: the Ukrainians somewhat, but I don't see it as a 173 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: fundamental game something like that. 174 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Let's assume that I'm right, Trump wins the cavalry arrives 175 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: over the hill at just the right moment on election day, 176 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: so to speak. And Trump is now commander in chief. 177 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: He's been saying that he's going to end this Russia 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Ukraine conflict, and now he's Trump, so he just sort 179 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: of says I will end it, and people are taking 180 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: him at his word. What do you think that looks like? 181 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: Well, man, I hope you're right about about winning. It's 182 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: it's it's it's obviously as tight race now. But I 183 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: think we definitely need change and. 184 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Keep the faith bridge keep the faith. 185 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: I'm a believer, but take nothing for granted, right, But 186 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 4: you know more about this than I do. 187 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: But look, I don't know. 188 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't speak for President Trump, as you know, 189 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: and I don't make any presumptions about myself or anything 190 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: like that. But I will say, just on the on 191 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: the issue of how much President Trump is actually laid 192 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: out his plan, I think it's actually pretty almost like 193 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: best practice not to talk to to in too much 194 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: detail about what the plan is. That's actually what Dwight 195 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: eyes Noow did in nineteen fifty two one. Pretty much 196 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: all I said about ending the Korean War was I 197 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 4: will go to Korea or Ron Reagan nineteen eighty said 198 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: he would solve as I understand a the Iran hostage 199 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: crisis didn't get into a lot of detail, So I mean, 200 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: you don't want to put all your cards on the table. 201 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: So it is basically the force of personality is the promise, 202 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: and you trust in the commander in chief to show up, 203 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: pound his fist on the table and get it done. 204 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: I mean that that actually is the strategy at some level. 205 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the strategy. 206 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: But also like, look, I mean Biden sort of locked 207 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: into this terrible policy, and if anything, Harris looks like 208 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: she's going to continue it, which is rhetorical maximalism about 209 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 4: you know, Putin is the evilest guy who ever lived. 210 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: He's obviously a bad guy. Like he's done a lot 211 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: of bad things. That's not the issue. 212 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: But it's not backed up by like any kind of 213 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: plausible strategy. And I'm not a fan of the Wall 214 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 4: Street Journal, lot of bad page on this point. But 215 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: where they do have a point is saying, like what 216 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: are we doing. We're slow dripping them resources and money. 217 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 4: Meanwhile we're talking, you know, we're progressively allowing attacks into Russia. 218 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: Putsin responds to this thing by saying, taking negotiations off 219 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: the table. I mean, obviously that could be a maneuver, 220 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: but it's like what we're doing for the last two 221 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: and a half years is not working out. I mean, 222 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: the Biden administration will tell you, oh, we're winning. Well, 223 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: if you compare it to like complete catastrophe, it's better 224 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: than that. But I don't think anybody in Ukraine or 225 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: a rational person looking from the outside would say that 226 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 4: if you looked at this from the beginning. 227 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: Of Biden's term, this is a good outcome. Now maybe 228 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: if it's not. 229 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: You know, I think the force of personality is part 230 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: of it, but it's also a different common sense approach. 231 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the things where Trump President Trump. 232 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: Gets flack, which I think is telling, is when he says, hey, 233 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: you know, I need to have a good relationship with 234 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: or you know, at least a talking relationship with Putin 235 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: or Kim Jong un or Shi Jinping. 236 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: I think that's actually makes sense. 237 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: Like Richard Nixon was able to talk to him as 238 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: a dong we were talking to the head of the 239 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: Soviet Union. That was considered a good thing because you 240 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: need to be able to potentially come to some different agreement. 241 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: So I think a different approach where there is also more, 242 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: you know, concern about what the Americans might be prepared 243 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: to do on like the economic sanctions front or whatever. 244 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I don't know what's what's the 245 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: total universe, but I don't I think it's out of 246 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: the question because like maybe Russia doesn't over long term 247 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: want to be a dependency of China. And I think 248 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: this is again something the present I think he said 249 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: to Elon Musk the other night, was saying, which is 250 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: again like it used to be a truism of American 251 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: form policy. You don't want the Russians and the Chinese 252 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: allied against you, right, It's like kind of a basic 253 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: high giene of American form posities. 254 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, never never find a land war in Asia, et cetera. 255 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 256 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 4: So, like I do think, you know, I I don't know, 257 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't know what Putin's actual 258 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: negotiating parameters are, but presumably he doesn't want the war 259 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: to go on forever and so forth. I think at 260 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: least at least worth trying it out. I do think 261 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: that the Ukrainians are going to need to be supported 262 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 4: whatever happens. But I think, as President Trump said in 263 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: his true social post a few months ago, that's got 264 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: to be on the Europeans. 265 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: That seems reasonable. 266 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well real, real quick, Bridge really got about a minute. 267 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering, Yeah, there's this this sense of, 268 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Iran is going to have some kind 269 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: of a CounterPunch against Israel and it could be horrible. 270 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Is this Iran taking its time or do people sometimes 271 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: underestimate the limitations of the Iranian state to really engage 272 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: in any kind of a sort of certainly a conventional 273 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: military strike. 274 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. 275 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: You know. It's one of the things going back and 276 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: you and I've been in this field a while, like 277 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: you know, where people would. 278 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: Say the Iranians are totally irrational, and actually. 279 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: Like if you look at and particularly how the Israelis 280 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 4: are thinking about them, and they're calculus the Iranians are 281 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 4: calculating and they know what's up, you know, So like 282 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 4: I don't it sounds like the Israelis and we are 283 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 4: preparing for an Iranian attack, And you know, I think 284 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 4: that would probably be where you'd put your money. And again, 285 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: as the Israelis have shown, but the Iranians too. You 286 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: can take your time in retaliating. But what exactly that 287 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 4: looks like? I don't think we know. 288 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: There's a story the Israelis may go after hasblah. 289 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 4: As a as even us in Iranian retaliation as a pretext. 290 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: So Iran's going to be factoring that in, Like is 291 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: this gonna net benefit us to do something? But they 292 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: certainly put themselves in a position where where they've they've 293 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: put their credibility on the line quite a bit. So unfortunately, 294 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: I think that's probably the way to bet. But I 295 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: hope it's not. I certainly hope it's not successful, but 296 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: I hope it's not very robust. 297 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: Bridge Colby, everybody, Bridge, give me a tour the Pentagon 298 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: when you're under Secretary of Defense. All right, looking forward. 299 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: To I don't make any presumptions, but always a great 300 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: talk you guys. 301 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, thanks so much. Appreciated the tunnel. 302 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: The Towers Foundation has looked after our heroes and their 303 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: families for more than twenty years now. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio 322 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 5: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 323 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Okay. 324 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: I gotta tell. 325 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: You the Democrats never learn their lessons right on the 326 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: most basic things. You see this with Harris, you see 327 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: this with Walls. But Elizabeth Warren is supposed to be 328 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: one of the smarter Democrats. She is not, but she 329 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: has managed to leverage the credential that she got through 330 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: cheating pretending to be a Native American that she is 331 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: a Harvard a Harvard Law professor and has taught at 332 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: the University of Pennsylvania Law School as well. She it's 333 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: actually not very bright. She's like very mid very kind 334 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: of middle of the pack. But because she was able 335 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: to present herself as a Native American, now we're all 336 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: supposed to think, oh, she's so smart. Here she is. 337 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: She just decided to. 338 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: Make this video. 339 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I'm Elizabeth Warren, and I'm working on 340 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: the first way to get you to be able to 341 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: buy a house. Here she is taking it upon herself 342 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: to tell you that the problem with housing in the 343 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: country is that we don't have enough government intervention. 344 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: Play this clip. 345 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 6: Do you ever wonder how your grandparents bought a home 346 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 6: for seven raspberries but you can't afford one bedroom apartment. 347 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: It's not you. 348 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 6: We're facing a national shortage of seven million homes and 349 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 6: renters and buyers are having to deal with the consequences. 350 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 6: The government needs to tackle this crisis head on, just 351 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 6: like we help people afford their homes decades ago. So 352 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 6: I have a bill that would lower rents by ten 353 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 6: percent and would help first time the home buyers get a. 354 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Foot in the door. Okay, jumping right there. This is 355 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: one of the cardinal sins of the Democrats, and it's 356 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: really why they actually are socialists. Their mindset always goes 357 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: towards socialism. The only reason they don't use the terminology 358 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: all the time and certainly don't like to be described 359 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: that way, is because the American people are not fully 360 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: with them on this right a percentage are Unfortunately twenty 361 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: thirty percent of the country wishes we were a full 362 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: on socialist state, but the American people believe still in 363 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: a free market economy at some level. When she says 364 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: that she's going to lower rate rents by ten percent, 365 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: it says though she thinks she can suspend the laws 366 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: of supplying demand, why don't we have enough houses in 367 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: this country? Will? For one thing, states like California make 368 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: it incredibly expensive because of government regulation and taxation to 369 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: build houses Canada. Right now, Canada has some of the 370 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: most overheated housing markets in the world. Ottawa, Vancouver, what's 371 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the other one, Toronto? Sorry, the other Canadian city I'm 372 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: thinking of overheated housing markets. You know why, government intervention, 373 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: you know, and regulation. Something like sixty percent of the 374 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: cost of a new house in Canada is the result 375 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: of government imposed costs. This is the problem here. Also, 376 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: we have tens of millions of illegals. Guess what they're 377 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: living somewhere. Someone's renting them homes. You don't think that 378 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: affects supply and demand. 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I know we've talked a 413 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: lot of numbers today looking at what the snapshot of 414 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: this race is with under three months ago, I think 415 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: eighty three days, eighty three days, eighty two days, something 416 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: like that. There's a trend that should be worrying to Democrats. 417 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about white working class voters, and 418 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: that's just because of the demographics in the states that matter. 419 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: That's just looking at the reality of the electorate as 420 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: it is. But there's also another component that crosses over 421 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: into that, and it is unions. Now, Joe Biden, to 422 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: the advantage of Democrats, had built a long standing career 423 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: as a union bolstering, union pandering democrat. Okay, he goes 424 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: around and presents himself as some kind of working class 425 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: hero despite the fact that you know, the guys never 426 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: had a really never had a real job, I mean, 427 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: didn't even work as a lawyer I think for any 428 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: length of time before he became a senator. So he's 429 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: been he's had his bills covered by the public his 430 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: entire life in fifty plus years or whatever it is 431 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: in public service. 432 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: But he set himself up as. 433 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: A union guy. Well, this was interesting. I look, Frank 434 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Luntz has been very wrong before. He was wrong in 435 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen about Trump. I'm whatever polster I bring to you. 436 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: You can pick apart and say. And also he like 437 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: squabbled with me on Twitter once on COVID he was 438 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: totally wrong, totally wrong. You know, I think, why do 439 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: you care that people are wearing masks? It was sad. 440 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: It was very low tee. It was very soy milk, 441 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: very sad. But okay, Here he is making a case 442 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: based on numbers, which is what he's been very successful. 443 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: He's been a lot of money as a pollster. Here 444 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: he is telling everybody that Trump is, this has cut 445 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: ten doing better with union members than any Republican in decades. 446 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 7: Listen, I assure you that Donald Trump is doing better 447 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 7: among the average union member, not teachers' unions and not 448 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 7: the unions for government, but everybody else, the trades people 449 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 7: work in their hands. He's doing better among them than 450 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 7: any Republican has done in decades. This is not going 451 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 7: to be a problem for him. The union leadership is 452 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 7: more divided from their membership, and the louder that it gets, 453 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 7: the greater the divides are going to come in and 454 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 7: my focus groups, and this is remarkable to me. The 455 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: union membership says they don't speak for me. And I've 456 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 7: been doing this now since nineteen I hate to say this, 457 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 7: eighty nine nineteen ninety, I've never had union people publicly 458 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 7: say they don't speak for me. 459 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: Now, there's something bigger at work here, and I want 460 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: to break it down the public sector unions on FOD. 461 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: First of all, that there should not be public sector unions. 462 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: If you want to make the exception for jobs where 463 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: there's a threat to life and limb so like fire, 464 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm open to that discussion. But even still, I don't 465 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: think that there's I think that the the union so 466 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: to speak, for police officers should be the you know, 467 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: the city council that is setting the budget that pays 468 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: police officers. I mean, I don't I don't think that 469 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: there needs to be that there should be these unions 470 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: for public sector. I know that that's an unpopular opinion 471 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: in some places. But if you're going to stand on principle, 472 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: why people are being paid by the state, but there's 473 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: an entity that is going to represent them back to 474 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: the state that is not the entity itself. It's some 475 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: third party that also can count on all kinds of 476 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: government intrusion on its behalf. I mean it's the ultimate 477 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: self licking ice cream cone. And the worst one is, 478 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: of course, the teachers' unions, which are really just a 479 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: Marxist mobilization involving jobs programs for adults to be please, 480 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to beg you right. You and I we 481 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: always have talks like adults. But there are a couple 482 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: of people sometimes who will say they'll take what I'm 483 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: saying personally. I'm speaking to millions of you about a 484 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: country of three hundred and fifty million. I have to 485 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: speak in generalities. I'm talking about teachers' unions and what 486 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: they push for. I don't need to hear about how 487 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: your third grade teacher Ethel was amazing and you had 488 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: a great public school. I get it, of course, of course. 489 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: But if you look at what's going on with places 490 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: like New York City, where they're spending thirty something thousand 491 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: a pupil and they've hired six times as many administrators 492 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: as they have new teachers over the last twenty years, 493 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's outrageous. DC the same thing. These are 494 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: money and power grabs in the name of children. Okay, 495 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: that's what my objection is. It's not that there aren't 496 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: great teachers Republic school. Of course there are Okay, just 497 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: like there are great FBI agents. I criticize the FBI. 498 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: There are great FBI agents. They're FBI agents who God 499 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: forbid something happened to you, your family. You know, someone 500 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: you know was kidnas after what you know, that guy 501 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: and that gal is gonna show up and you're gonna 502 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: be so thankful because they're the right. You know, my 503 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: uncle's career cop, career cop. And let me tell you 504 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: did not want him on your trail if you were 505 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: a bad guy. 506 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 2: He did not. 507 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: He tracked serial killers. He worked for morganhaw in the 508 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: Investigative Office for the distric Attorney of New York City 509 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: track serial killers. I mean, you know you don't. You 510 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: don't want real lawman or real law woman on your 511 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: tail anyway. I'm just saying, we're talking about the structures, 512 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: the machinery, not individuals. 513 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: Okay, That's why I. 514 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: Don't take it personally. People trash the CIA now all 515 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: the time. The right is so oh my gosh, Sea 516 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: The people said, I mean, how can I ever trust you? Gee? 517 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. 518 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: How can you trust the guy that turned down a 519 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: lucrative early career in Wall Street to go try to 520 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: help find bin Laden because he tried to kill members 521 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: of my own family and wage. 522 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: War on America. 523 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: Like I thought that was a pretty valid reason to 524 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: go join the Cate Terrorism Center, right, I mean, and 525 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: of course I know you know that. But that's why 526 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't take a person. And people say, now, the 527 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: deep STA, the CIA, what's going on. Yeah, I wasn't 528 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: a part of that. That wasn't. I had no connectivity. 529 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't at the top levels, top echelons where the 530 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: political comes into it. So on the union thing, I 531 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: feel like I have to make this very clear up 532 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: front because I know some people get offended when I'm 533 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: trashing the teachers unions. I'm not trashing teachers, just like 534 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trash it. You know, there are good teachers 535 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: and bad teachers. There's good and bad in every profession, right, 536 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: They're good and bad. Radio hosts a lot of bad 537 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: radio hosts, just kidding. There's some good ones, the great ones. 538 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: Well there are some. 539 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: Bad ones too. See it's always true. It's always true. 540 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: There's some good ones, there's some bad ones. 541 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: But public sector unions are generally terrible, and they there's 542 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: no correction mechanism. That's the problem. When I say it's 543 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: the ultimate self looking ice cream cone, it's because, and 544 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: this is particularly in Democrats centers of power cities, major 545 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: population centers, the union mobilizes to elect Democrats who raise 546 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: the taxes and particularly the property taxes of people to 547 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: fatten up particularly the benefits more even so than the 548 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: the on duty pay, whether it's teachers, cops, or whomever, 549 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: to fatten up the long term benefits because that's easier 550 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: to hide in the budget. And then the cycle just continues. 551 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: They elect Democrats, Democrats extract more from the people, fatter 552 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: and fatter benefits, and then eventually people start fleeing the 553 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: state and saying the budget. 554 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: You know, we're to budget crisis. 555 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, if New York City pays five billion dollars 556 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: for migrants and everyone goes, what happened? What happened? How 557 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 1: did we get here? What happened? That's Democrats, by the way, 558 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: that's their voice. I don't know. You can male, female, 559 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That's how they sound to me. So it's 560 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: it's the truth that public section unions are bad. But 561 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: now when he's talking private section unions, why would private 562 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 1: sector unions to bring this around to the initial point. 563 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: Why would they the membership start to be turning toward 564 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: Trump because public the private sector union bosses are first 565 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: of all, they're very well paid, and they're a part 566 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: of this machine. And their whole job is to mobilize 567 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: for Democrats, to make sure that laws are in place 568 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: for mandatory dues and all kinds of things, to empower 569 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: the union bosses, who empower the Democrats, who empower the 570 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: union bosses, and then the union bosses with the help 571 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: of the state. This is a one hand washes the 572 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: other extract and extract more from the private sector that 573 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: they work in, whether it's automobiles, it's you know what, 574 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: you tell me what private sector union? You know, it's 575 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: a teamster, is anybody right? They start taking more and more, 576 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: and then they create problems in their industry, They create 577 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: problems of inefficiency, and then they want more government help. 578 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: So then what does the government do. 579 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: The government says, well, we're going to make up for 580 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: the shortfall if you're having you know, if the wages 581 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: aren't keeping up, whatever, We're going to spend more money. 582 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: But that just. 583 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: Raises inflation on the workers. 584 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: If you're a union guy or gal doing the actual 585 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: work day in and day out. The interests of the 586 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: union boss aren't really with you. The interests of the 587 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: union boss are with the Democrats who pass laws to 588 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: keep the union powerful, I mean the union itself. Workers, 589 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: your prices are going up across the board and Democrats 590 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: are doing that. You can't afford groceries the way you 591 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: could even a few years ago, and it's democrats fault. 592 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: But your union boss is in this unholy alliance with 593 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: the Democrats, pretending to care about the union worker. You see, 594 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: very much like what you have with the teachers unions. 595 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Teachers unions only care about getting city council members Democrats 596 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: elected to keep the benefits flowing and to keep the 597 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: mandates going. The kids, who they pretend to care about. 598 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: The kids are a distant consideration. Most teachers unions do 599 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: not give a you know what about the kids. If 600 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: they did, they would care more about the massive failures 601 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: of public school systems and pretty much every major city 602 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: in the country, right, they would care a little bit 603 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: more about that. They don't care about that. It's all 604 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: about pensions, benefits, that's what they care about. Mandatory dues. Oh, 605 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: that's number one if they can get that mandatory dues. 606 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: So what you are seeing is friction with the union 607 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: bosses and the union rank and file. And Trump is 608 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: the beneficiary of this because he wants to push policies 609 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: and did push policies that make the wages that people 610 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: are working for go further and get the government out 611 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 1: of their pocket more, and create the conditions where they 612 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: can build equity in a home, they can buy home, 613 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: build equity at home, they can create savings, they can 614 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: start their own business. Right. So that's where this whole 615 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: thing falls apart. 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Buck Brief on YouTube. 668 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: But you can listen just to the audio and the 669 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: podcast stream if you'd like We've got Carol Marco at, 670 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Sean Parnell, Tutor Dixon, great shows. The listenership to all 671 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: these shows growing every month because these are really strong, 672 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: up and coming talents in the spoken word medium and 673 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: they're doing great stuff. And we'll have Sean on later 674 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: this week and Carol on later this week as well. 675 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: They talk about some news of the day. Also want 676 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: to take a moment to give a big Today is 677 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: the day a big happiet twenty anniversary twenty years strong 678 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: to my co pilot here in the Rush Limbaugh f 679 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: eighteen of Freedom, Clay Travis, who who is a great 680 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: dude as you all know, and him and his wife 681 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: Laura married twenty years today, So big congratulations to them. 682 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Very nice to see this in the media world where 683 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: let's just say, family values aren't always front and center. 684 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: It's great and I'm so you know, I think it's 685 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: such a good example to set that Clay and his 686 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: wife twenty years. They're three boys, wonderful kids, great family, 687 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: so big congrats to them. That's why Clay is out 688 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: this week. He's celebrating his twentieth and taking the week off, 689 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: so he and Lara are just out out in the 690 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: mountain somewhere and enjoying some time together. So happy twentieth 691 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: to them. And I think Clay would want me to 692 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: talk about this, so maybe I'll say this is kind 693 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: of this is in honor of Clay, this segment, because 694 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's fired about this. 695 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: New York Post. 696 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: Piece elites decided Hunter Biden can finally be a scandal. 697 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: Now that Joe. 698 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Is out here, you go, this is the piece. Hunter 699 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Biden is a corrupt con artist who used his father's 700 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: position to leverage the government and make himself millions. Now 701 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden has been pushed aside, officials are allowed 702 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: to admit this, and The New York Times is allowed 703 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: to report it. The Post rights it's rotten, unscrupulous, cynical hypocrisy. 704 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: Emails reveal that Hunter, while his father was vice president, 705 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: wrote a letter to the US ambassador to Italy asking 706 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: for introductions to help the Ukraine gas company Barisma, land 707 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: a lucrative contract with Italy. That's why Barisma was paying 708 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: Hunter a million dollars a year to sit on its board. 709 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: Not his energy expertise, not his work ethic, blah blah blah. 710 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: He was actually, by his own admission an irresponsible. 711 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: Crack addict, and it just goes on and on. 712 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: Ah, this is one of these moments where you know, 713 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: you listen to this show and you've been told the 714 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: truth about this for years? 715 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Why did we get right the whole time? 716 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: But CNN, The New York Times, the Washington Post, go 717 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: down the list, all of them were so very wrong. 718 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: It's because they are not in the truth business. They 719 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: are not in the facts business. They are in the 720 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: propaganda business. And the moment that you really set your 721 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: mind to that, and the moment that you no longer 722 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: even want to hear they're like, oh, but you know, 723 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: we're speaking truth to power, and we're you know, we're 724 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: the fourth the State. They're not the fourth the State. 725 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: They're a fifth column. Okay, they are undermining core constitutional 726 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: values in this country in so many ways, But they've 727 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: undermined the First Amendment, perhaps more aggressively in the last 728 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: decade or so than at any time since the days 729 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: of Woodrow Wilson, when the First Amendment was under such 730 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: assault that people were being locked up for having unpopular 731 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: opinions about a war we didn't need to be in, right. 732 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of stuff. The history of 733 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: the First Amendment in this country is not taught enough 734 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: in schools or the real history of it, because it 735 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: requires constant vigilance. There are always people who are trying 736 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: to trample on it. There are always government bodies and 737 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: individuals who are authoritarian at heart and want to find 738 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: ways to shut you up for saying things that are unpopular. 739 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: And you see in the UK they've basically given up 740 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: on the whole idea of freedom of thought. You say 741 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: something about the migrants who are rampaging through the streets 742 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: and the grooming gangs and the horrible stuff that's going 743 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: on as a result of migration in that country, a 744 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of migration, including a lot of legal immigration. 745 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: You're a bad person and they're going to lock you up. 746 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: So you just can't trust the media at all. And 747 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: however disdainful you are of the legacy democrat media in 748 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: this country, it's not enough. So you should walk around 749 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of swagger knowing you choose to listen 750 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: to this show because we actually care about what's real. 751 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: That's it for today, everybody, Thanks for hanging out shield time.