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Speaker 2: I'm Riches, I'm Jewish. Nobody asked me to join. None

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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, paed Price,

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Speaker 3: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, grinding

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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shah. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, Shanny Sharp. I'm also the propriud of Club

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Speaker 1: Shashe the guy that's stopping by for conversation on the

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Speaker 1: drink today. Is one of America's most famous and successful entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 1: He created the world's first streaming platform. He's one of

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Speaker 1: single e trade transaction, one of the most influential people

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Speaker 1: in cable and sports industry. Self made multi billionaire, savvy entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: Internet pioneer, genius financier, highly respected businessman. A celebrated sports owner.

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Speaker 1: He helped the Dallas Mavericks win their first NBA title

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. Primetime television star, he was a Shark

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Speaker 1: author aviad philanthropists, humanitarian and mogul.

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Speaker 4: Here he is ladies and gentlemen, Mark Huban. When you

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Speaker 4: hear all those.

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Speaker 2: Things you like, damn, I was like, no more, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you're just telling me. I'm old.

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Speaker 4: That's all you drink? Mark?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do I drink y'all?

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Speaker 4: See?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well you know, hey, this is my own Kangyak

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Speaker 1: is called shade by Laportier.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: You don't men think about.

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Speaker 2: Kanyac ya a little bit. But I'm a simper right,

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Speaker 2: I'm not like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, ain't expecting you take this into the domemark.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say I never have. I'm just saying thanks

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Speaker 4: For being a Sipper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah shit, a tiny one.

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Speaker 1: So let's get ready to it. Your big acquisition this

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Speaker 1: offseason was Klay Thompson. Obviously you got Luca, we know

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Speaker 4: How did you convince him join us in Dallas?

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Speaker 2: I mean credit goes to Nico and Kyrie and j Kidd, Right,

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Speaker 2: And that's literally why we brought Nico Harrison in because

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Speaker 2: And really, and I think Clay was ready for a move,

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Speaker 1: Is it hard to convince players when they've had such

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Speaker 1: He's always going to be known as a warrior, no

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Speaker 2: and Clay's got a lot to prove, which is great

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Speaker 1: You come off one of your best seasons. Since you

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Speaker 1: Luca had an outstanding gear. I think he finished top

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Speaker 1: This the following the previous off season, you added Kyrie.

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Speaker 2: Because they're both basketball savants, but they understand the game,

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Speaker 1: But you know, Kyrie had a history of what transpired

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Speaker 4: How do you how do you assess that mark?

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Speaker 2: You talk to them, and you talk to people around them.

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Speaker 2: You watch what happens. You know how their actions are.

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Speaker 2: When you watch Kyrie before he came to the Mavsie,

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Speaker 2: see you know football, right, these guys will swap jerseys,

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Speaker 2: and you guys are first cousins, yes, right, And that

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Speaker 2: And so when you talk to players, they loved them. Yes,

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Speaker 2: all the things you said, Okay, what what wrong in

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Speaker 2: Bossed and what went wrong in Brooklyn? A lot of

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Speaker 2: that is maturity, right, but a lot of it was

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Speaker 2: learned was you just like Kaybee Kai, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I love talking to the guy, and I say this

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Speaker 2: and then you all talk about sports. Kai is the

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Speaker 2: dude that's sitting there wanting to talk about world peace? Right,

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Speaker 2: Why aren't we fixing this? You know? How do we

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Speaker 2: end hunger? He's just got that, He's got a heart

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Speaker 2: of gold. He's got a huge heart and he wants

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Speaker 2: I mean to me, it was easy to make that decision.

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Speaker 1: When you hear people like man, they're misunderstood. What was

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Speaker 2: Honestly, before I did the work, I thought he was

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Speaker 2: I never talked, there was no point. There was no

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Speaker 2: It's just like, hey, if he doesn't want to play

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Speaker 2: when the mass comes to town, great, Right, things don't

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to trade for him came, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's do the work. And you know, Nico did the work.

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Speaker 2: Jay Kid knew him, Nico knew him for years and

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Speaker 1: What when you sit down and talk to Kay and

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Speaker 1: he is a probably not talking about. But when he

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Speaker 1: got dropped by some of these major sponsors, what did

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Speaker 2: I was like, can I help? And obviously you know

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Speaker 2: when it comes to shoes, which is big money off court,

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Speaker 2: we got Nico Harrison right there, right, and so Nico

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Speaker 2: gave him a lot of guidance and support. He had

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Speaker 2: Nico was great. And you know I talked to Kai

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Speaker 1: Now, Is it true that when Giannis was a free agent,

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Speaker 2: Okay, two different things, right, So when Giannis was getting

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Speaker 2: But remember remember so Yann's coming out, there were like

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Speaker 2: And I already know, like Dirk, if we had just,

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Speaker 4: With all love?

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Speaker 2: we didn't get the free agents we wanted, but that

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Speaker 1: Does the Buk have the buck always stop on Mark

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to right. It was my team, you know,

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Speaker 1: Because I heard Jerry say, Jerry says, no one can

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Speaker 4: Is that how you feel?

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Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with Jerry. I just think you got

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Speaker 4: So, have you had conversations with Jerry about with Jerry?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you let you know, let such and such, maybe

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Speaker 2: No. I've had conversations with him in the past, but

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you've got to you've got to live it

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is Michael Finley, Grant William, They tell the story.

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Speaker 1: But I want to get to Luca. I believe if

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Speaker 1: he's great. I'm talking about he he's transcending, he's historically great.

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Speaker 4: What about the hookah?

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Speaker 2: Hey, let me just tell you this. I know one

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Speaker 4: I have never tried it?

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Speaker 1: So tell us the story about Grant Williams. You sign

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Speaker 1: him in free agent from the Celtics, and I guess

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Speaker 1: What so what happened to the best? What were you?

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Speaker 1: What was relayed to you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? You know, Grant, Grant was trying to define himself.

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Speaker 2: Grant's a great guy, right, I still keep in touch

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Speaker 2: When you start trash talking Luca, that's never going to

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Speaker 1: How did Dirt when you said, because like you said,

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Speaker 2: learning all the things you need to do your football

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Speaker 2: iqu or basketball ceue. It doesn't matter how talented you are, right,

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Speaker 2: We've seen boasting talented guys just right through a flame

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Speaker 2: That's the only reason, right. If Dirk was Dirk came

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Speaker 5: Dirk would have been out with all those handles and

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Speaker 2: He would have been right and and then some. And

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Speaker 2: that's no disrespect to KD who was that first person

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Speaker 1: When Luca's contracts up, he's going to have the biggest contract.

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Speaker 2: In NBA here, Sure do you believe we're going to get.

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Speaker 2: I mean when Luca and Tatum and all these guys,

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Speaker 1: Young got what Tatum just got what like four hundred something,

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Speaker 1: So Luca's about to get.

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Speaker 2: TV money. Right. Once that new TV money get kicks in,

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Speaker 2: Like do we make more money a year than I will?

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Speaker 2: These guys are gonna be making like I don't care

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Speaker 2: different than every other sport. Right. You know, you couldn't

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Speaker 2: if they walked in the door, right, NBA. Right, particularly

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Speaker 2: if you play two K you knew all fifteen guys

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Speaker 2: You don't have that in baseball. You don't have that

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to that. I read a quote probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was easy, actually, I mean it made perfect

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Speaker 1: Wow. And you look back at it, So when you

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Speaker 1: that was?

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Speaker 4: That was? That was easy? Do you do you start

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Speaker 2: No? Never. I always started company with the hopes of

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Speaker 2: So like I remember when we started it was audio

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Speaker 1: Because it seems like people just like go linear for

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Speaker 2: That's where we're going to be, right, because linear television

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Speaker 2: And you were said.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna suck. But we'll get there

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Speaker 2: to say, right, okay, So but those shows, like are

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Speaker 2: Of course I take all the credit.

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Speaker 1: This media rights deal. Obviously tn T is, it has

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Speaker 1: So obviously they're an institution, and after this year, they're

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Speaker 1: And you don't have to get into too deep into it, Mark,

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Speaker 1: But so what's going on with that? Did you know

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Speaker 1: like three x four x.

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Speaker 2: Ten x, Yeah, because we were the last big media

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Speaker 2: deal available. So think about what we just said, right,

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Speaker 2: how do you keep lining your TV a lot?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Right, you need sports and the NFL's already locked up,

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Speaker 2: so who's next? And so if you're going to stay alive,

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Speaker 2: Amazon carves out on Peacock carves out some, it's like,

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Speaker 2: why would we not take that money? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I mean fifty one percent goes to the players,

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Speaker 2: So they were happy about it too.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that these platforms, the

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Speaker 2: No, because that's what's kept them alive. Right, the NFL,

581
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Speaker 2: to a lesser extent, the NBA in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: You know, the other sports are helping, but they're living

583
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Speaker 2: on the NFL, yes, right, And the NFL is just

584
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Speaker 2: more and more and more and more. But at some

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Speaker 2: point there'll be a tipping point, right, because it costs

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Speaker 2: more to get a linear television network than it does

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Speaker 2: just to streaming. Right, because the cable network, the satellite network,

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Speaker 2: they're having to pay all this money and they're having

589
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Speaker 1: If Mark Cuban was an NBA player today, how would

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Speaker 4: How would he invest his money?

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Speaker 1: How would you how what type of business if you're

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Speaker 2: Right, right, So if I'm just a two way player. Right,

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Speaker 2: If I'm a two way player, I'm living like a

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Speaker 4: It's going to last, right, Okay.

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Speaker 2: And one of the hard things is, you know, like

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Speaker 2: It's over. And if I'm somebody making forty fifty sixty million,

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Speaker 2: It can't not be your friend, because your friend wants

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Speaker 2: you know, don't invest in the restaurant, don't invest in

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Speaker 2: but you know our music, right, that is the death right.

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Speaker 2: So it's not so much now, right, But in the

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Speaker 2: Everybody was either going to be a rapper or they

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Speaker 2: rappers because that's what you know, what was going on.

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Speaker 2: And you know, one athlete's label that's done any good? Nah,

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Speaker 2: I don't, don't you know? Clothing companies, No, it's hard,

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Speaker 2: it is, right. Those business hard because there's no barriers

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Speaker 2: to entry. You want to start a clothing It's funny

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Speaker 2: because I get people talk to me all the time.

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Speaker 2: LGB and you think you're start a clothing line based

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Speaker 2: off of LGB, right, or you know, I've got this

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Speaker 2: one song that I'm gonna do, right and listen to this?

647
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: Isn't this the best song you It's not that easy.

648
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: As the Dallas Mavericks owner, obviously your signature player before Luca,

649
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: and you've had some great players at the Mavericks, but

650
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: it's been dirt.

651
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course, what is.

652
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: Dirk meant to you? And this organization?

653
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: Everything? He is the organization. He's the definition of the

654
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks. And again not just what he did for

655
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: us on the court, but who he is off the court.

656
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: Dirk's that guy that's going to the hospitals without being asked. That's,

657
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, taking time with kids, visiting them. You know

658
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: when he has a special event and he's had many,

659
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: he's making sure kids are coming and he's just got

660
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: you know, he's got that heart. People know he loves

661
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: Dallas and as a result, Dallas loves him.

662
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm That's the interesting thing Mark because

663
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot of these international players like when they're done.

664
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: They go back to their respected countries. Dirk has remained.

665
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: He's German, but he.

666
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: He goes back and forth, he goes, he does. Yeah,

667
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: but you're right, he's Dallas, right, but he stays here.

668
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: He lives here. Just build a house here, you know,

669
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: does charity continuously? You know you can take you can't

670
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: take the Dallas out of Dirk.

671
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Now is it true that he brought his meals on

672
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: the road in luminum ball?

673
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: Some? Not all right? Some? Yeah, no, I do remember that, right.

674
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: He'd get it because he wanted healthier stuff, right right,

675
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I forgot all about that. So yeah, so

676
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: he would get things specially made for him because he

677
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna eat anything because you know what it's like

678
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: on a team plane, there's fried chicken everywhere, you know whatever.

679
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: The players just love to eat, right, And he was like, no,

680
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm no more fried food.

681
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

682
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Why have European players really if you look at what

683
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: the last six.

684
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: MVPs, it's been European players.

685
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: You got Yoki with three, you got Giannis with two,

686
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: you got Joel and b with one. Why have they start?

687
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: Why have we seen the shift to where European players

688
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: are starting to dominate.

689
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just in the draft and two reasons. One,

690
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the world is bigger than us, right,

691
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: so we've got thirty three hundred thirty million. Yeah, there's

692
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: eight billion people in the world, right, so yeah, so

693
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: there's more options available, right, particularly now with Africa and India.

694
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: And you know, I love whenever I think India. Now,

695
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: I like that song tan To's in.

696
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: You know that.

697
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: But anyways, I digress it. But so there's just more people.

698
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: And then the training methods are different. There's no equivalent

699
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: of AAU and you know, kids here like my son

700
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: or whoever, they're playing game after game after game, but

701
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: hardy practice wow, you know. And over there there's two

702
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: practices a day and you might play one, two, three,

703
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: maybe three times a week, and so the focus is

704
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: on developing skills and no matter you know, here, even

705
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: still we kind of pigeonhole people into certain positions. You're big, right,

706
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: you get down on the block, the.

707
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: Biggest guy you played the four to five.

708
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: Right, right, and so, and that's changing some, but they

709
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: don't really work on all the skills or even more importantly,

710
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: the basketball IQ you know, And I take that back

711
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: a little bit because kids now are far more skilled

712
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: at the high school level with the junior high level.

713
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: You see the handles, right, like, my son's got handles,

714
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: like he's got my athleticism unfortunately for him. But my

715
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: son's got handles like yeah, you know, I mean I

716
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: used to be able to dunk, but still he still

717
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: got my athleticism. And so but his handles are off

718
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: the charts, right, and it's no big deal. All the

719
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: guys on his team can handle and they get that

720
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: from social media, but they don't get the same basketball IQ, right,

721
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: they don't. So that's what I try to work on

722
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: with him. Right, head up, what's gonna happen next? Right,

723
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: anticipate where things are going, and you don't see that

724
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: a lot with AAU. And then parents get into it too.

725
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: It's like get my guy some minutes, right, or my

726
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: girls some minutes, And that makes some more difference.

727
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: It's not like that in the European parents aren't aren't

728
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: hummingbird the helicopter and they're not hovering old.

729
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: Not like here, not like here, because I mean there's

730
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on kids too. Right, they're in

731
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: the meal ticket and that's tough. That is really tough.

732
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: Dennis Shruder casts some flat he said.

733
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: They asked Dennis Shrewder, he says, because you're paying basketball

734
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: is straight basketball IQ, no entertainment, straight coaching, really really

735
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: high IQ. Guys who know how to play the game.

736
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Of course, the US is the best league in the world,

737
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: but Europeans they're coming for sure.

738
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: Yep.

739
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 4: Katie didn't take kindly to that.

740
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: He's like cause he took a picture of that when

741
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: they won the gold medal, you know, best IQ and entertainment.

742
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: What was Dennis shrew to try to say? And do

743
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: you understand what he was saying?

744
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I understand. Right. So once you get

745
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: past the top thirty players, right, IQ matters, right, because

746
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: you've got to be able to play with Luca, You've

747
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: got to be able to play with Kyrie because they

748
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: have like high IQs and everything else to go with it. Right,

749
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: But the guys who are you know, fifth, sixth, seventh

750
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: and lower on the roster, you got to have a

751
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: high basketball IQ to know where you're fit and know

752
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: where your role is. And if all you ever learned

753
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: was you know, dribble, if you don't have an IQ, right,

754
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: it's going to be harder to fit in the NBA, right,

755
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: And so they're both you know, Katie, give them a shit,

756
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: was right because we have the best players. It's not

757
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: even closed right right at the but still out of

758
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: those top twenty players in the you know, there's a

759
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: reason why those guys have been MVP. And so if

760
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: you have the level of skill that you need and

761
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: you have that basketball IQ and it's developed, and if

762
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: you flip it around, if we did the same development

763
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: here for kids and you combine the athleticism and the

764
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: skill with the basketball IQ, there might be half the

765
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: number of European players or foreign players in the NBA.

766
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: We just don't give them that basketball IQ support.

767
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Are we are American players? Are we too reliant on athleticism?

768
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: I think it depends to a certain extent. Yes, there

769
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: are some players that, like the Kd's of the world,

770
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: like Lebron's of the world, that are American, have basketball

771
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: ques off the charts. You know, they're just insane, you know,

772
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: every element of the game. But kids see that and

773
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: they try to replicate you know what Anthony Edwards does right?

774
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: You know don't and said right, and you know Duncan

775
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: dem X and all that stuff, right, And I don't

776
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: see that from European kids coming in. And I think

777
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: that's the difference. If you applied the same training techniques

778
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: and combine that with the athleticism that we have in

779
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: this country, well yeah, it'd be a whole different league.

780
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: I've never seen him play in person, but you've had

781
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: a front world seat to see this guy over the

782
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: last decade, and that's Nicola jokicch Yeah. When you look

783
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: at a guy and you, I mean just look at

784
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: him from television, You're like, Okay, he doesn't have the

785
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: cap shoulders like Jannis, he's not freight trained like Lebron,

786
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the he can't jump out the gym

787
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: like a young shock.

788
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: But bro, he just light people up.

789
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: What is it about him, Mark that makes him so great,

790
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: so unique that he's able to dominate when he doesn't

791
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: have anything about him that's physically dominanting.

792
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: You what I mean if you just saw him in

793
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: a plick cup, like, you would be like, you know,

794
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: who's the chibb chubby dude? Right? Oh my god? He

795
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: could play it right, But it's skill skill In basketball IQ,

796
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: you combine being six to eleven, six ten to eleven

797
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: with basketball IQ skill. He can shoot, he can dribble,

798
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: he can pass, he sees things three steps ahead. You know,

799
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: him and Luca are like, you know, twins in a

800
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: lot of respects. And when you have all those elements

801
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: to your game, like, there's always a place for a shooter, right, Yes,

802
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: always a place for shooter in the NBA. There's always

803
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: a place for somebody who can rebound. Now, if you

804
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: can rebound and shoot, okay, you're gonna be good. If

805
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: you can rebound shoot handle, you're gonna be really really good.

806
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

807
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: If you could rebound shoot handle in your basketball IQ

808
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: is top five in the NBA, You're unstoppable.

809
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: Right.

810
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, you said the situation with

811
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: Dirk it changed. He started to take the way he ate,

812
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: the way he trained, the way he did every single

813
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: thing was different than the previous years because he had

814
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: gotten so close. He got a tape to what it

815
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: was like to play in the NBA Finals. You go

816
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: up to Oh, you're feeling, you had to be feeling.

817
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fun interview.

818
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: It is.

819
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: We go, we go get to the fun stuff. So

820
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: when you go up to Oh, you just like we

821
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: got this.

822
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: No, we were up two oh and it was the

823
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: third quarter and we're in Miami, and I always sit

824
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: right behind the bench, yes day, right, and I'm standing

825
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: up clapping and I'm thinking we're up like fourteen and yes,

826
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to my shelf, oh shit, we might

827
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: sweep these dudes. Not two seconds later, right you, Donnas

828
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: Haslim steals, the ball, goes in for lab Now it's twelve.

829
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: Then a couple of minutes later, Shaq pushes Eric damp

830
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: Pierre pushes him and they call foul Eric Dampierre, I'm like, oh,

831
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: if he hits these free throws, we're in trouble. Shaq

832
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: hits to freetailers, right, I'm like, oh shit, we're fucked.

833
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: And you know, went downhill from there, you know, And

834
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade goes to the free throw line nine hundred

835
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: and seventy three times, right, So it was over.

836
00:38:59,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: Let me.

837
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: The relationship that you have is unlike maybe only with

838
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: Doctor Buzz had with Magic, is that you party.

839
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: You hang out with the players. You've hung out with the.

840
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: Players, do you find how do you how do you

841
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: manage that? Because at the end of the day, you

842
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: are the owner.

843
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: You know.

844
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you have the you can sign players, you

845
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: can trade players, you can release players. How is that

846
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: How does that has that ever interfered with your relationship

847
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: with the player?

848
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure. Like my first year, we had a

849
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: player named Eric Strickland who I got to be really

850
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: close with, went to Nebraska, didn't have a long NBA

851
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: career with great dude, right, and we got to be

852
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: really good friends. And it was draft night and our

853
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: guys were like, you know, here's a trade we need

854
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 2: to do. And I'm like, oh, fuck right, we're gonna

855
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: have to trade them, and you know, and it was

856
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: then I learned that you've got to do it's best

857
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: for the team, and players respect that right. And players,

858
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: you know, when they get traded, they may not like

859
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: it if they see another opportunity, hopefully the next place. But

860
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: I also realized that basketball is X number of years.

861
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: Life's a long long time, right, And like even when

862
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: we screwed up and let Steve Nash go, I've gotten

863
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: to be friends with nashally took a time. It took

864
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: some time, right, he you know, he didn't like me

865
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: for a long time, but you know, now we're friends again.

866
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: And so you know, you just it's okay to be

867
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: friends with them, it's okay to get close to them.

868
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: You just have to be honest with them. And if

869
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: you're honest with them, it's okay.

870
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 4: What do you what are your thoughts on super teams?

871
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: It's really over.

872
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't really work And it's going to be

873
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: a lot harder now with the new CBA. You know,

874
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: with the new collective Barding agreement. You know, they have

875
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: this first apron and second apron thing, right, and if

876
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: you have three max out players, you're right there. By

877
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: the time you have fifteen guys, you're over the second apron.

878
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: And if you stay at the second apron for you know,

879
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: two years, you know you're getting your first draft pick

880
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: moved to the end of the draft, or you get

881
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: you can't trade it. And then the second time, second year,

882
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: if you're over, you move to the end of the draft, right,

883
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: no matter what, and there's limits on the trades you

884
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: can make. It's hard to build a team, and so

885
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be harder and harder and harder

886
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: for teams to have, you know, a big three that

887
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: are all max out. Now, what you want is like, well,

888
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: we Hope is like a player, Well, Clay comes in, right,

889
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: and a Naja Marshall comes in, but we got someone

890
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: we drafted, like Derek Lively who can be an All

891
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: Star caliber player or better. You know, it's just like

892
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: the Celtics. They were able to make a lot of

893
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: trades because the Jay Brown and Tatum. Yeah, we're on

894
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: not rookie contracts, but on lower contracts as the cap

895
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: went up. That's what you need to have happen. And

896
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: if you go for it and you get three max

897
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: out players and it doesn't work, I mean, look at

898
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: the Clippers. You know, they had three amazing max out

899
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: players and you know, injuries got in the way, and

900
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna be really hard to keep together a team

901
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: like that.

902
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be hard for the Clippers to keep

903
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: that thing because PG is gone, Kawhik can for whatever reason,

904
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: he can't stay healthy.

905
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: So it's tough. It's tough right now. I don't want

906
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: to talk specifically about any one team, but you know,

907
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: three max out players partually as those numbers go up, Yes, right,

908
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: those numbers go up because the max out contracts, you know,

909
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: as a percentage, you're at thirty five percent for a

910
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: supermax of the cap, and if you got three of them, right,

911
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: that's one hundred and five percent of the cap, right,

912
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: depending on when you signed it. Right. So it's not

913
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: going to stay that way because you know, you'll sign

914
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: a guy at thirty five percent, then a cap will

915
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: go up ten percent, right, So he won't stay at

916
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: thirty five percent, But it's close enough right over just

917
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: three guys that it's going to be hard to keep

918
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: him together.

919
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: Lebron obviously, are you surprised that he's been able to

920
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: play as well as he has for as long as

921
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: he has to be as doorable as he's.

922
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Being, Yeah, of course I thought he was done five

923
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: times all. The guy's a beast, but he's got that

924
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: mental fortitude, right. It's like we talked about with Dirk.

925
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: He's just one of those guys that he understands the assignments.

926
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: You've got to take care of your body, you've got

927
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: to take care of your mind, you've got to take

928
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: care of your skills. His three point shootings improved like yes,

929
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, and so he gets credit for doing the work,

930
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: and you know, that's what makes him one of the

931
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: greatest of all time.

932
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I tell kids, And I tell when I talk to athletes,

933
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: I say, you have to spend more time because you're

934
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: going to spend more time off the court or off

935
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: the field than you do on the field. They say,

936
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: for a lawyer, for every hour that you spend in

937
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: the courtroom, you need to spend two two and a

938
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: half hours.

939
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, salmon business.

940
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: So if you're going to spend on the court, you

941
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: spend that kind of time. You need to spend time

942
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: eating and taking care of your that'shous you get a trained. Yes,

943
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: it does not get easier. Yes, it does not get

944
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: Trust me, you're still young. Wait till he gets harder

945
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: and harder. You know that shit is no fun.

946
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: But he gets all the credit in the world for

947
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: having that discipline to be able to do it. Those

948
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: guys don't.

949
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: He wants to be an owner, obviously, you know. I

950
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: think you guys are looking at maybe bringing the team

951
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: to Vegas. I think Sea Adle is being talked about.

952
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody else, but I think

953
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: that's those are the two franchises, and obviously he's kind

954
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: of looking at the one and in Vegas. What type

955
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: of owner you think Lebron would be I don't know. Players,

956
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot harder for a player, right.

957
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: We saw Michael Jordan. Right, great guy has some success,

958
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: but not as much as you wanted.

959
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 4: Right.

960
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: It's hard because players have one mindset and they look

961
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: at other players in a certain way. You know why

962
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: you can't do that?

963
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: I could do that.

964
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: I can do Let me show you, right, Michael Jordan,

965
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: I'm fifty five years old. I'm gonna whoop your ass. Right.

966
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's just completely different perspective that's hard

967
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: to disconnect yourself from. And it's hard to be objective

968
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: and not have your player mindset. And so like when

969
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: you've seen general managers that are former players, they're not

970
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: the great players that were you know, that are good

971
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: general managers. It's the role players that got to watch

972
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: everybody else and understand how to fit these pieces together.

973
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: And so for any superstar, it's going to be hard.

974
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 4: Being an owner.

975
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: What's a typical day for Mark Cuban when you when

976
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: you were the full time owner of the Mavericks, what's

977
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: a typical day?

978
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 4: What time do you wake up? And what's your schedule?

979
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: So it depends what part of the season it is.

980
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: So during the off season is when I spend had

981
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 2: to do most of the work right because the free

982
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: agency and the draft and everything, So that's where I

983
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: had to pay the most attention. And then when you

984
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: get to the trade deadline, that's another time when you

985
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: have to pay a lot of attention. Otherwise I'm just

986
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: screaming and yell on right, there's you know, as long

987
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: as there's you know. And it also depends if you're

988
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: winning or losing. If you're winning, it's easy, everything just goes.

989
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: If you're losing, and you don't want to lose because

990
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: there's there's rebuilding, and then there's losing when you think

991
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: you're going to win, and when you're losing when you

992
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 2: think you're going to win. That's when an owner has

993
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: to do with stuff right, because you've got to communicate.

994
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: You've got to make decisions. What about you know, is

995
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: it the coach? Is it the players? Is the general manager?

996
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: And is it the decisions we made? Is a chemistry?

997
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: Why are we not performing the way we expected this

998
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: team to perform. That's when it's hard as an owner

999
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: because you've got to figure it out. I mean, I remember,

1000
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: like it was two thousand and eight, maybe we were

1001
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: playing in Sacramento, and no, it was later than that,

1002
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: but in any of that, we're playing in Sacramento and

1003
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: we were just were not playing hard. And I remember

1004
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: walking to I've only given probably four locker room speeches, right,

1005
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: And I walked into the locker room and I start

1006
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: pointing in to different guys, Yo, do you get your

1007
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: paycheck this week? Yeah? Do you get your paycheck this week?

1008
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: And I went around to all of them, you get

1009
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: your paycheck this week? And they all said yes, the

1010
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: motherfucking play like you got your paycheck right, because you're

1011
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: doing shit right.

1012
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: And so so I can imagine it looks like and

1013
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: we lost that game.

1014
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: Do owners that.

1015
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: Because I heard you say, You're like, is it the coach?

1016
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: The players, is the GM if anything else in the staff?

1017
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Do owners ever look at himselves like is it me?

1018
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1019
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: Of course, oh all the time, right, because it's my

1020
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: final responsibility, like we said before, and you're gonna make mistakes,

1021
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: and I've made plenty.

1022
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: You know.

1023
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: I traded early on. I traded for this one dude,

1024
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: and literally I thought he was the unibomber. I thought

1025
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: he was gonna blow shit up, like for real, blow

1026
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: shut up, and I'm like, what the hell did I do?

1027
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: You know, And at the beginning, it was just like, okay,

1028
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: let's see if we can integrate a mintegrant. It just

1029
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: wasn't going to work out. So he was just on

1030
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: the StairMaster all day, every day, and that was it

1031
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: because we couldn't trade him. He wasn't tradable. But you

1032
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: so you make mistakes like that, and you just got

1033
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: to own it. You know, in the early days when

1034
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: I first bought, you can kind of buy your way

1035
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: out of mistakes and buy your way into a better

1036
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 2: team because there are a lot more old school owners

1037
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: now there's you know, either super super rich people or

1038
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: private equity groups and they can afford to play the

1039
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: whole game. Back in the early days, and you know,

1040
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: the two thousands, there were a lot of old school

1041
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: owners pops, yeah, lomma pops that have been there forty years, right,

1042
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: And you know, you could buy a draft pick for

1043
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: three million dollars and I'd be like, okay, you know,

1044
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: make a trade and take on twenty five million dollars

1045
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: in salary to save their ass, right, Okay, But you

1046
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: can't even do that in the CBA anymore. And now

1047
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: they have a lot more money, so they don't do

1048
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: like they're like, okay, I'll buy that pick, Get the

1049
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: fuck out of here.

1050
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: Mark, you made a decision that you sold the majority

1051
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: share of the Mavericks. And I know what the Mavericks.

1052
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: Of all the companies, I think the Mavericks are your baby.

1053
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: I think they they meant the most and to you.

1054
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only one I've ever been for twenty

1055
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: four years.

1056
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 4: Right? How difficult? How how did you come to that decision?

1057
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: And was that a difficul decision because I'm sure you

1058
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: thought long and hard, like I'm gonna do it.

1059
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: No I'm not, Yeah, no, I'm not.

1060
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: I mean it had more to do. Well, there was

1061
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: two reasons, only two reasons, right. One because of my family. Right,

1062
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: you know, I'm at that age and I'm not going

1063
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: to be around for thirty years, right, And so are

1064
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: my kids. You know my kids now are fifteen, eighteen

1065
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: and twenty one. Are they gonna want to run this?

1066
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: And what if they decide not to? And then what

1067
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: do I do?

1068
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: Right?

1069
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: And so that was the biggest thing. And you know

1070
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: what sports are like too, is also I don't want

1071
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: to just automatically put pressure on them. It's great when

1072
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: you're winning, right, everybody wants to run a team when

1073
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: you're winning, correct, But when the ship's hitting the fan

1074
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: and you suck, and you know what social media is like,

1075
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: and kids are on social media all the time, I

1076
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: don't want didn't want to put my kids in the

1077
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: position where they're like you, you know, and they have

1078
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: to deal with that stuff while they're just developing as adults.

1079
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: So that was one and number two. To compete in

1080
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: the NBA now is expensive. Not all teams make money.

1081
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: It's not like the NFL. And in order to have

1082
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: the money to be able to do whatever you need

1083
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: luxury tax, whatever it may be. It's not just about

1084
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: technology or tickets or TV anymore. Like technology, Okay, I

1085
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: got that down right, TV media got that shit down.

1086
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: To streaming, got that shit down. But now you got

1087
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: to build real estate. I don't know shit about real

1088
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: estate and never was it never did. And so when

1089
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: I had a chance to work with Patrick Dumont starting

1090
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: years ago, we would talk all the time about bringing

1091
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: you know, resort based casino gaming to Dallas or to Texas,

1092
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: and you know, he would talk about what it takes

1093
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: to build a casino and to build a new arena

1094
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: that fit in there, And I'm like, I don't know

1095
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: anything about this. And so if the MAVs were going

1096
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: to compete, I was going to have to learn all

1097
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: that stuff, and honestly, I don't want to learn it.

1098
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: And if that was, if it was going to take

1099
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: two billion in cash to make all that work, Steve

1100
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: Bomber's got that. I don't have that your heart, right,

1101
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: I do now, which I'm happy about.

1102
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 4: But now you don't want to be now you don't

1103
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 4: want to build?

1104
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's just didn't no right, I'd be want that.

1105
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: I could have borrowed it and all that stuff, but

1106
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: I would have to learn it or I would have

1107
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: had to just trust somebody, and that's just not my style.

1108
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: That's a lot of money to trust.

1109
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money to trust and a lot

1110
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: on the line. And so now I've got a great

1111
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: partner who will know going to improve the arena we

1112
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: have today, will build something new. We'll be able to

1113
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: make a destination that Dallas will be proud of. And

1114
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: he knows things, he's forgotten more about building than I've

1115
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: ever known. And so it makes a great partner, which

1116
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: puts the MAVs in a much better position to compete.

1117
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on gamble? Do you think you're

1118
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do have gambling here in Texas?

1119
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: I do. I don't know when, but I do, because

1120
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys live outside of Texas. Yes, what

1121
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: is it that you save up and get excited to

1122
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: come to Texas on a vacation? To do you ever

1123
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: thought about coming to Texas on a vacation? No? You

1124
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: know anybody who does?

1125
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: I guess college kids go to what South Padre or

1126
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: something that?

1127
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, for spring break. Yeah, you know, maybe you go

1128
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: to Austin to sixth Street or you know, Austin city.

1129
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: Limits south by Southwest.

1130
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but it's not really like a vacation.

1131
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: You don't think of it as a vacation destination anywhere

1132
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: in Texas. And so let me change that question. If

1133
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: we put a Belagia or a Venetian in downtown Dallas.

1134
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, they come. People want to gamble.

1135
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not just gamble. Right, you like you go

1136
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: to Vegas now you spa, you got you know, you

1137
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: have the shows, right, You've got all that stuff and

1138
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: you become a you know, being in the center of

1139
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: the country. If you put a Venetian right in the

1140
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: middle of Dallas, we're going to all of a sudden

1141
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: become a top three tourist destination in this country. And

1142
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: so that's why I think it'll pass.

1143
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: I read a report and let me let you think

1144
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: about this, is that Americas are spending more on sports

1145
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: betting than they are in investing.

1146
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: Are you surprised by that?

1147
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the age of the person,

1148
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: because I read something similar, right, And so if you're

1149
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: real young, you're you're betting, but you're not betting a lot, right,

1150
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: or you're buying crypto dogs going to the moon baby,

1151
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: you know. But you know it's hard. It's hard for

1152
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: kids to save money, right, and so you know how

1153
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: kids are, right. You know, you're a tenty two year

1154
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: old dude or woman for that matter, in college, right,

1155
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: and I know sports. I know sports, you know, and

1156
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: so you play and you're probably going to lose. But

1157
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: it's fun, right, It's it's just entertainment money, kind of

1158
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: like cryptois. But yeah, I just think when you get

1159
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: to people who were in their thirties, forties and fifties.

1160
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: I don't think, you know, the numbers I've seen are

1161
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: that they're not unless you have a real problem. They're

1162
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: not overspending.

1163
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: When you sold the company, mark you gave your employees

1164
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: it was reported thirty five million dollars. You gave them bonuses.

1165
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: Why did you feel the need to do that?

1166
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: You know? And it ended up being a lot more. Actually,

1167
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: but I'm not there without them. And I did it

1168
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: my first two companies. I did it with micro Solutions.

1169
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: You know, we had eighty employees. They all got paid.

1170
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: I did it with Broadcast dot Com. Out of three

1171
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: hundred thirty employees, three hundred became millionaires. And I wanted

1172
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: to do the same thing with the MAVs. You know,

1173
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: they they were there for me the whole time. And

1174
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: you know it was enough money that for those who

1175
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: were there, you know, twenty years or more, it was

1176
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: life changing money.

1177
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: You should think.

1178
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you started the first streaming platform, you're like, okay,

1179
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: I can foreshadow I can think this is heading in

1180
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: this direction. You said, you and your partner, you bought

1181
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: a computer. You and your partner you got sit down

1182
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: and you start coding. How long before you before it

1183
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: started becoming profitable, because that's that's the hard.

1184
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it took us four years to get the

1185
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: break even. Okay, so we had gone public. It was

1186
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 2: the number one IP on the history of the stock

1187
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: market in nineteen ninety eight, and we sold it in

1188
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty, I think it was, and that

1189
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: second quarter we were right around cash flow of Blake

1190
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: break even. But we were only in business for four

1191
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: years and say two thousand, right, yeah, and so we

1192
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: were only in business for four years, so that wasn't

1193
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: horrible for a tech business like that. Did you ever

1194
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: mean YouTube? Netflix?

1195
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: I remember just had to be nineteen ninety nine, two thousand.

1196
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: I went to a nail I went to a nail

1197
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: shop and the lady was telling me about how she

1198
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: get movies from Netflix. I said, so, tell me about it.

1199
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: She said, What you do is that, you know, you

1200
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: tell them what you want and they'll send it the

1201
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: DTV right right to your door. You watch them when

1202
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: you want to, and you put them back in the

1203
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: thing and send them back. I was like, I said, well,

1204
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: what about Blockbuster? She's like, nah, I think Blockbuster is

1205
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: gonna go away. I'm like, I don't know about that.

1206
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: She was right. She was right.

1207
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, had I just taken

1208
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: like ten fifteen thousand dollars and.

1209
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: Put it into Netflix, boom? Did you know that it

1210
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 2: would blow?

1211
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: That there would be a net because you were YouTube

1212
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: and Netflix before they were even Yeah?

1213
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean that's why I was so upset with Yahoo,

1214
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: Like they had a huge opportunity. I mean, they were

1215
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: YouTube before YouTube. When they bought us, and you know,

1216
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: when the Internet stock bubble bursts, their border directors just

1217
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: say pull everything back instead of sticking with it. And

1218
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, re day Stein's and the folks in Netflix,

1219
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: they were like not pulling back, right, they were going

1220
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: for it. And then YouTube shows up and they couldn't

1221
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: even afford to stay in business. But then Google buys

1222
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: them and that just changed everything.

1223
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because at first YouTube was with streaming platform, not

1224
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: anymore like ads.

1225
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean it was like two thousand

1226
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: and six they started, and it was just like little

1227
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: short videos and stupid videos and stuff. But you know,

1228
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: credit to them, they got Googled a partner, and Google

1229
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 2: did it right.

1230
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: So when a company comes there and they says, Okay,

1231
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna buy you is.

1232
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 4: That all cash? Is that cash plus stocks?

1233
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 2: In our case it depends on the company, right, But

1234
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: in our case with Broadcast dot Com, it was all stock.

1235
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: And so in my mind I was like, oh shit, right,

1236
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: what if this is all the stock market crash? So

1237
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 2: I went once I was legally able to, I did

1238
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: something called a caller, So I sold the right to

1239
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 2: somebody to buy the stock at a higher price. That's

1240
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: selling calls. And then I used that money to buy puts,

1241
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: which protected me in case the stock price createred. Well,

1242
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: the stock price did creator, and those puts became worth

1243
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: even more money than I would gotten from the stock.

1244
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: And they called it one of the top ten trades

1245
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: in Wall Street history.

1246
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: So that's how they called it.

1247
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: The Yeah, so what was that that number one e

1248
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: commerce purchase?

1249
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: What did you purchase?

1250
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: I bought a jet online.

1251
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: G I had to be a golf Stream yeah, G five.

1252
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just got paid and like time is

1253
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: like my number one thing. I want a jet, right,

1254
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: I want a jet? And so I'm like, well, I'm

1255
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: an internet guy. I'm going to practice what I preach.

1256
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: So I got to contact at Gulf Stream. I emailed

1257
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: them and I said, okay, can I get a test flight?

1258
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: They set up a test flight. I'm like, okay, I

1259
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: like this hard to you know, figure out?

1260
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 4: I liked it?

1261
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: Right, what's the price? Told me the price was forty

1262
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: million dollars. I texted him on a deal, right, send

1263
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: me the paperwork, Email me the paperwork, emailed it to me.

1264
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: I did a wire transfer, did the whole thing online.

1265
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: So the jet was already because you can build your

1266
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: own jet, but you didn't.

1267
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: Know you can't build your Hello, would you want, Hey, Shannon,

1268
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: come on to my jet that I built, would you

1269
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: joh the features?

1270
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 4: And yeah? Yeh.

1271
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about flying? No, right, yeah, So

1272
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: that's what I did. So I asked for, you know,

1273
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: where's the where's the kitchenen? And how many seeds? What's

1274
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: the layout and all that? And the test flight that

1275
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: they gave me. Match that, okay, tell us about was

1276
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: it American Airlines? You bought a lifetime passes.

1277
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: The lifetime passing, you bought two lifetime passes where you

1278
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: could fly first class anywhere in the world whenever you

1279
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: want it.

1280
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: Right, So it's just one. It was a little card

1281
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: I got, right, But I could take anybody with me, right,

1282
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: and so this was after I sold my first company,

1283
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 2: micro Solutions. I was twenty nine, I think thirty, and

1284
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, just sold this company, walked away with a

1285
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: few million dollars. And I was like, my buddies and

1286
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: I going out just got destroyed. We went to all

1287
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: one of these old school steakhouses they don't really have anymore,

1288
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: but where you could ask for a phone and plug

1289
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: it into a jack in the wall there right at

1290
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: your table. Yes, And I'm like, you know what. They're like,

1291
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: what do you want? You know, what do you think

1292
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: you're going to do with all this money? And I'm like,

1293
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: I don't care about cars or houses it, but boy,

1294
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: you know, I fly a lock for work. If I

1295
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: could get this lifetime passed, I wonder if such a

1296
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: thing exists. So I'm like, like, I even because I

1297
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: had memorized because I traveled like one eight hundred and

1298
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: four three three sixty four sixty four of the American

1299
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: I think that's still the number, right, is it? That's

1300
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: not right? But anyways, yeah, whatever, And so I called

1301
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: them up, just luring my words. Do you guys sell

1302
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: lifetime passes? They're like, let me connect you to the

1303
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: air pass department. I'm like, what dam right? And so

1304
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: I got all that information hungover as hell and I've

1305
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: signed up and it was initially it was one hundred

1306
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: and twenty five thousand dollars and then I upgraded it.

1307
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: I think I forget out how much I paid. But

1308
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: it gave me almost unlimited miles for me and somebody

1309
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: else for the rest of my life. Wow.

1310
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So where where's the past at now?

1311
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: I gave my dad's passed away. I gave it to him,

1312
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: and then I gave it to a friend as a gift.

1313
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: So it was transferable just one time, just one time.

1314
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, But because my dad died, they let me do

1315
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: it because he didn't use it a lot and I

1316
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: didn't use it a lot, so they let me transfer

1317
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: I don't think they do that anymore. No, they don't,

1318
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't.

1319
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: You put somebody in the way, people.

1320
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: But what a deal, right, I mean, let me just

1321
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: tell you, like one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars

1322
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, okay, doing the math, that's twelve cents

1323
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: a mile. I can deal with that, right, And like

1324
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: I'd be out in La or wherever, Dallas. I'm like

1325
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: you on a road. Triplet's let's call American Airlines and

1326
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: see if they got any flights tonight. Let's go to Vegas.

1327
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: What's your name again, doesn't matter, Let's go to Vegas. Well, yes,

1328
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: I did. That was what the early nineties. Man, that

1329
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: was a different time.

1330
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 4: What type of investor is Mark Cuban now?

1331
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: Just really conservative? You know? I like investing in small companies,

1332
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: startups where I can help entrepreneurs because I like to

1333
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: do that. That's what I do in Shark Tank. But

1334
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: with interest rates at five plus percent, why take risk?

1335
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: Right?

1336
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: So it's easier to do that, either through tax freeze

1337
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: or treasuries or whatever. But I still like to invest

1338
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: in startups.

1339
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 4: Man, you're on Shark Tank, y'all be taking them? People?

1340
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: Many How y'all go take half the company?

1341
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: It don't work like five ten years trying to build

1342
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: this up. Andy, y'all come in and taking twenty seven percent?

1343
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: They offered you five?

1344
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 4: Could you go to ten?

1345
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: Why?

1346
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: Damn Well?

1347
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 2: It depends on the size of the company, right, because

1348
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm giving them a lot of money. Because if they

1349
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: didn't need the money, they wouldn't be there. And so

1350
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: they're not there because you know, maybe they're there because

1351
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: of the commercial, but they're there because they need help.

1352
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: And so, you know, it's been a lot of fun.

1353
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: I've invested in hundreds of companies there over the fifteen years.

1354
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: Some have done really well. Beatbox Beverages you may have

1355
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: heard of, Dude Wipes, you probably have heard what I

1356
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: heard of. There's just a bunch of them that are

1357
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: just destroyed, just killed it, and some of them didn't

1358
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: do as good, right, And so you've got to You've

1359
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: got to understand that, you know, twenty five percent are

1360
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: going to go billy out for what ever reason. Forty

1361
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: five Now, let's say sixty percent are going to be okay, right,

1362
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: and fifteen percent are going to kill it. And I

1363
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: got to make sure those fifteen percent I really get

1364
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: paid on it to cover all the other ones didn't.

1365
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 4: Ring didn't.

1366
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: Ring came on. But I didn't like that deal anyways,

1367
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: right because Ring had to They sold for a billion dollars,

1368
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: but they had to raise like five hundred million to

1369
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: get there. You know, obviously it was a good product

1370
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: and it paid out, but I have a rule, right,

1371
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: if you have to raise hundreds of millions of dollars

1372
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 2: to do tens of millions in sales. It ain't gonna

1373
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: work for me right now. If you're able to sell

1374
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: and get an exit, more power to you. And he

1375
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: was able to, so he deserves all the credit.

1376
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 4: Have you gotten upset when a shark stole one of

1377
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 4: your deals?

1378
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: No one steals my shit.

1379
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: You have a loss of showing they come on this,

1380
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 4: ay Mark, I want to.

1381
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, Right, you haven't watched show you that

1382
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: anybody got one of mine? No? Hell no.

1383
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 4: But I'm other than the.

1384
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: Mavericks. Obviously that was a big investment. But you own stuff.

1385
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: You own Netflix Amazon.

1386
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: I did for a while. Yeah, when they were turning around,

1387
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: right when people didn't understand what they were doing. I

1388
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: made a lot of money about calls, which you know,

1389
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: the right to buy to share it at a higher price,

1390
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: and I bought a lot of them, a lot of them,

1391
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: and they went up ten times what I put up.

1392
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: So I was a happy camper.

1393
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: But when they say it takes money to make money,

1394
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: because you've been in the situation, because you've created these

1395
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: companies and been able to have money, so when these lesser,

1396
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: when the like you said you like to invest in startups,

1397
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: you're able to make a kill it.

1398
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, in order to be a billionaire,

1399
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: you have to be lucky as fuck. There's no way

1400
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: around it, right. I don't care how smart I think

1401
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: I am, or Bill Gates or Steve Balmer or Buffett

1402
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: or Elon Musk. It takes luck, right, you know, You've

1403
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: got to if I started doing things five years earlier,

1404
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: right and coming out of college and the Internet wasn't happening, yeah,

1405
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: you know right, you know it's just when we started costplay,

1406
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: when we started broadcast dot com, that was right at

1407
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: the right time, and no one had done streaming, and

1408
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: the end the Internet stock market was just blowing up, right, Okay,

1409
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: that's how you become a billionaire. And that you know,

1410
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: I worked my ass off, I was smart. I did

1411
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: shit other people were afraid to do. But if the

1412
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: Internet stock market hasn't hadn't been the same, I'd be

1413
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: just some guy, you know, just chilling, you know, the

1414
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: Vice House, and you'd have no idea who I was.

1415
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: Right but it.

1416
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: But you have to take some risks because I remember

1417
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: when Google came out and they thought that the shares

1418
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: were going to open up about eighty five dollars. This year,

1419
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: and I remember sitting to my financial guys and I

1420
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know what. I had just signed

1421
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: with the Ravens, so I had some money and I

1422
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: was like, man, I like buy you know, three hundred

1423
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth? Well, it opens up at one fifteen.

1424
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: And he says it's overpriced, and so you know it's

1425
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna come back.

1426
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: Right, they don't have the profit. Yeah, hey, I've done

1427
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: that for you. I know you're not the first one

1428
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: that says it's like in video. It's like in video

1429
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: right now?

1430
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 3: Right?

1431
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: Like I told my son, my son wanted to invest in,

1432
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: and he bought some and I'm like, you know, I'd

1433
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: rather see it come down first, and my son's like,

1434
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 2: got you, who's the expert now? Right?

1435
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: Ebody? And how many times has Google split?

1436
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean you know it's worth over three trillion

1437
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: dollars three trillion dollars trillions trillions, I mean not billions,

1438
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: that's a thousand billions, a trillion dollars.

1439
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 4: So that my investment, I'd have been a billionaire with you.

1440
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: Right, you fucked up.

1441
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: I need.

1442
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: I fucked them bad because Netflix and Google and I

1443
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: had the money to do it.

1444
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 4: But somebody talked me out of it.

1445
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 2: But but he But then there's twenty five other ones

1446
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: that right, you thought you should go in, he talked

1447
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: you out of.

1448
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: They lost their butt and say so it evens out

1449
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: when people, when you so benevolent, when people try to

1450
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: take advantage of you, are read that you had an

1451
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: employee that steal from me.

1452
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: Huh.

1453
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: When you've been as generous as you have over your

1454
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: the course of your career, how does that make you

1455
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: sour on people?

1456
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: No? No, because people steal. What am I going to do?

1457
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 4: Feel for somebody else? Don't steal from me?

1458
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: So you know what, it's a good problem to have, right,

1459
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: That means you got it, Huh, I can afford it. Right,

1460
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: Like my first company, micro Solutions, Though, there is a

1461
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: lady Renee Hardy r E n E e h A

1462
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: R d Y Right. We she was our receptionist and

1463
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: her job she had one job. Right, take their payables

1464
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: for our vendors, put it in an envelope, Lick the envelope,

1465
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,959
Speaker 2: take it to the post office. Right, we had eighty

1466
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: four thousand dollars in the bank. I'll never forget get

1467
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 2: a call from the bank, sir. This woman just came

1468
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: through the drive through and the checks were white it out.

1469
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: The paye was white it out. Remember white out was yes, Yes,

1470
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: she wrote her name in it. And I'm like, you

1471
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: didn't cash them, did you? Of course we did, We're

1472
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: a bank, sir. She took eighty two of the eighty

1473
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: four thousand dollars that we had. We were flat broke,

1474
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: and the eighty two thousand was supposed to go to vendors.

1475
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: So now we had to call the vendors say, please

1476
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: work with us, we'll bust her ass, we'll make sure

1477
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: you get paid. And they did. They worked with us, right,

1478
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: and the rest is history. But she could have just

1479
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: boove done. Then I was mad. That's why I always say,

1480
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: Renee Hardy, did you press charges? We couldn't find her.

1481
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: That's been years and no one's found her since. And

1482
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: now I get emails from people right that are like

1483
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: I heard about this name from day Hardy, you know,

1484
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: and so and so's names. It's just random names write

1485
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: the same name, and like, no no one's ever found her.

1486
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: She's probably changed her name or whatever. Mark.

1487
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: When you accumulate the amount of wealth that you have,

1488
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 4: how has you in a circle changed.

1489
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: It hasn't hasn't at all. Like my guys from you know,

1490
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: grade school, high school that I grew up with, we

1491
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: just did a zoom. We do every two weeks they

1492
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: come out to MAVs games. I go see them. They're

1493
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: still my buddies, my college buddies. You know, Ben and Tim,

1494
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: you know, still my best friends. I played rugby in

1495
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: college and after my rugby teammates are still my best buddies.

1496
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: When I came to Dallas, I slept, you know, five guys,

1497
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: six guys in a three bedroom apartment, and you know

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: Shippy and Sues and Ronnied and you know Fred Turner

1499
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,520
Speaker 2: and all these guys. They're all still my great friends.

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01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 4: At the end of the day. At heart, you're a

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 4: college frad guy, oh for sure.

1502
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: But you know he got six guys and we in

1503
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: the bedroom, we just hanging out. We go out, Drake,

1504
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: be you matter right, and you know, live like like.

1505
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 2: I bought a book when I was in college. It

1506
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: was called How to Retire by the Age of thirty five,

1507
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: And basically what it says is live like a student

1508
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: so you can save all your money right, and then

1509
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: if you do that, you know and you you know

1510
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: even if you're investing in like just treasuries whatever they

1511
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: pay three four five percent. Okay, you know, you get

1512
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: you know, a million dollars and you make five percent

1513
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: on that. That's fifty grand. If you're living like a student,

1514
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: you turn that into two million, et cetera, et cetera.

1515
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: And that was my goal, right, And so moving down

1516
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: the Dallas and living, you know, sleeping on the floor

1517
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: the whole time, you know, going out and literally buying

1518
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: one beer and eating all the fried mushrooms and shit.

1519
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 4: I was cool with that.

1520
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: I was having a blast. There was no problem at all.

1521
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 4: What was your fan?

1522
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: Because I think the thing is it's easier said than

1523
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: done because a lot of time I'm just speaking to me.

1524
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak to anybody else, but speak

1525
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: to me. We didn't have anything growing up, and I've

1526
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: always wanted to make sure that I could take care

1527
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: of my family. But I wanted some things that I

1528
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: couldn't get when I was growing up. For sure, I

1529
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to go to a restaurant and

1530
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: if I wanted something nice, to be able to go

1531
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: if I saw something, you know, clothed as far as clothes,

1532
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: maybe a watch, I want to be able to get it.

1533
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 4: Your mom and dad were you like middle class?

1534
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad did a polsterrying car so or see.

1535
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: So if you if this had a ripping it, you

1536
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: take it to where my dad worked and he'd sew

1537
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: it up. Right. My mom did odd jobs.

1538
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 5: You know.

1539
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 2: My dad never made more than forty thousand dollars a

1540
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: year in his life.

1541
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 4: That was good money. Though.

1542
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: You realize when you no, I know, I'm not complaining it. Yeah,

1543
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm not complaining right, Yeah, I'm not complaining right. But

1544
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: still you know, and that's you know, he wouldn't retire,

1545
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 2: like even after I started making money, he wouldn't retire. Really, no, No,

1546
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: he had to work, right, that's you know, that's his thing.

1547
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: That's just thing. Yeah, And like he had to be

1548
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: able to pull out that credit card if we all

1549
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: went to dinner and pay for it, because if I

1550
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 2: paid for that, that was an insult.

1551
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 4: Wow, I read you had your hip to replace.

1552
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them. I had both of my replaced

1553
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: A lot better, isn't it. Well, it's a new lease

1554
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: on life. I'm telling you. You wake up and it's

1555
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: just like, oh, I.

1556
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: Mean that I'm living cause back I was surviving the pain.

1557
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: It's like, on a scale of one to ten.

1558
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: Was the pain ten for right, because you like you,

1559
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: you'd be in bed, right, you'd be trying to sleep

1560
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: and they would lock up and you'd have to do

1561
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: like a push up and like drop. I would have

1562
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: to do a drop just to get them unlocks so

1563
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: I can walk. And like I remember I was. I

1564
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: got one done at forty nine and then the other

1565
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: one done like five years later. And I remember walking

1566
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: through the hall of the arena and one of our

1567
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: guys like, dude, you walk like an eighty year old man.

1568
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, it's time. It's time. You know,

1569
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: my legs wouldn't go that wide.

1570
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 4: It was just like it's I mean, how you have

1571
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: to get out of bed? You gotta roll?

1572
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was.

1573
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: It's but I mean, and the doctor told me say,

1574
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a new lease on life. I'm like, yeah,

1575
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: I did you.

1576
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 4: Everybody every doctor says that after surgery.

1577
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: But boy, who changed everything?

1578
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: It absolutely changed everything. This new company tell us about

1579
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: the new drug company. Cost Plus Drugs is helping me

1580
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: in hold on, y'all help me and buy Viaggress. Saulis

1581
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: for a chieap of price.

1582
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: Are you buying from us?

1583
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: Nah?

1584
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 4: I do that roast. I'm on romans, the roast barks.

1585
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: No funck that right.

1586
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: No, let me just tell you.

1587
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you. You can buy ninety generic

1588
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 2: sialis or generic viagra for a lesson. You pay for

1589
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: a bag of M and ms from costplus Drugs dot com.

1590
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: Wow, but the one that got marked, they knocked five marks.

1591
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: That's the name Marks, got that red spark on it.

1592
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: The re appeal, take the re appeal.

1593
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you, right, if you get like

1594
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: the twenty milligrams, you won't let anybody walk with it.

1595
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: Never mind. But you go to costplus Drugs dot com.

1596
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: And so.

1597
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: I actually got a cold email from a doctor named

1598
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: doctor alex Osmyanski and her offices right across the street there,

1599
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: and he goes, I want to start this pharmacy that

1600
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: manufactured compounding pharmacy that manufactures drugs that are on a

1601
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: shortage list right so that people can't get them. I

1602
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: want to make them so they can get access to

1603
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: their medications. And I'm like, that's great, but what more

1604
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: can we do? And so we started talking, and this

1605
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: is right about the time the farmer bro is going

1606
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: to jail. And I'm like, if this dude can like

1607
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 2: buy one drug dare prem and just jack up the price,

1608
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: then do something wrong with this business. Let me let

1609
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: me look into it. And it was really obvious, really

1610
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: quickly that what was missing is transparency. Nobody trusts the

1611
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 2: price of healthcare. Nobody trusts health care at all, right,

1612
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: particularly medica medications. Right. So if you get a prescription

1613
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 2: for something, the first question they ask is, and you know,

1614
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: can you afford it? It's like where's your pharmacy? Right?

1615
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: And then you know, we've all heard stories people waiting

1616
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: in line, don't know what it's going to cost and

1617
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: can't afford it, loser insurance, whatever. So we started this

1618
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 2: company called cost plus Drugs dot Com cost plus Drugs

1619
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: dot Com. And so when you go to costplus Drugs

1620
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: dot Com and nothing you need it. But like if

1621
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: you put in Cialis with to Dila Fhill, which is

1622
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: generic Saalis, and you need ninety of them, we'll show

1623
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: you our cost. Right, whatever we pay for it, we

1624
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: mark it up fifteen percent, we add our shipping and

1625
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: handling on it, and then when you add it all

1626
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: together in this case, less than a bag of M

1627
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: and MS. But it's going to be cheaper than anywhere else.

1628
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: And so what else is cool about it, though, is

1629
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: there are a lot there are a lot of companies

1630
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: before us that these things call pharmacy benefit managers. We

1631
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: don't need to get into it that just jack up

1632
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: the price of certain drugs because they're they're not used

1633
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: all that much. Yes, supply demand and so like, I

1634
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 2: had a friend who was in this car wreck and

1635
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 2: he lost his insurance and they were going to there's

1636
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: a struke called drop a Doza, Drop a Doza, and

1637
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: they were like saying they were going to charge him

1638
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars every three months. And he's like, I

1639
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 2: can't afford that?

1640
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 4: Can you help?

1641
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: Now? Not very many people can't afford that. I'm like,

1642
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: let me check. So I check into it, and this

1643
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: was two years ago, and I'm like, okay, Landed, I

1644
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: can get it to you for sixty four dollars a month.

1645
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: There's these other drugs for muscular differ multiple sclerosis rather

1646
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: and we're seeing our price be twenty one dollars, twenty

1647
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: two dollars. Other people are charging two thousand dollars. Other

1648
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 2: drugs you know, and Mattenev, which is for chemotherapy, and

1649
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: heyhere from two hundred to two thousand dollars depending on

1650
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 2: this trend, our price is like twenty three to twenty

1651
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: four dollars. And so when someone comes to the site,

1652
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, you've got this disease and we're the only

1653
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: way you can afford your medication. Not only are you

1654
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: buying from us, but you're telling everybody, you're telling your doctor.

1655
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: And so we you know, we launched January nineteenth to

1656
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. So here we are two and a

1657
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: half years later, millions of customers, just changing people's lives.

1658
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: I get emails and texts and social media almost every

1659
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: day saying, oh my god, you saved my life. So

1660
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: if right now we're almost we have like twenty five

1661
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: hundred generic, seventy four different brands, and we're adding more

1662
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: and more brands. But if you want to see if

1663
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: you can reduce the price of your medications, go to

1664
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: costplus Drugs dot com.

1665
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 4: What made you decide to do that?

1666
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 2: The healthcare industry is fucked up? I mean, what could

1667
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: be you know, I've done a lot of people, Yeah,

1668
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean, what could be a better legacy. What could

1669
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,480
Speaker 2: be a better way, you know, to really be successful

1670
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: in business than fucking up the healthcare business? To me,

1671
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: that was everything right to come in. And we've only

1672
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 2: been in two and a half years and we literally

1673
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 2: are changing the whole industry. And so I'm proud of that.

1674
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's exciting and it's fun and we're just

1675
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 2: getting started.

1676
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on ozimpic It seems that that's

1677
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 4: the new.

1678
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Holby Wood. I mean, I'm not a doctor,

1679
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 2: but whether it's to zeppatide which is zep bound from Lily,

1680
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: or ozempic which is from Nover North right by the

1681
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: way Lily. Just so, there's two ways you can get

1682
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: the diet drugs, right, the glp ones is what they

1683
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: call them, and there's two ways again. You can get

1684
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: them with the pens, right, or you can get them

1685
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: with the vial right. And if you get them with

1686
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: the vial, they just started selling them with the vial

1687
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: this week. Instead of it being thirteen hundred dollars a month,

1688
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 2: it'll be four or five hundred dollars a month, and

1689
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: so the prices are starting to come down and if

1690
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: they live up to the billing again, I'm not a doctor,

1691
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: I'm not the scientist, but if they live up to

1692
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 2: the billing, it's going to change a lot. People crave foods,

1693
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: and if the thing ever got down under one hundred

1694
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: bucks a month, everybody's going to take it right, and

1695
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna you know, you talk about investing, right. Are

1696
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: people going to eat less food, Yeah, they're gonna eatless food.

1697
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: Are people going to be healthier and lead less health care? Yeah,

1698
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: they're going to need less health care? You know, Are

1699
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 2: there gonna be fewer heart attacks? Et cetera, et cetera.

1700
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: Bey though, Mark, everybody's you know, I mean we don't.

1701
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 2: We want people of different sizes and different bodies. You

1702
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: don't have to and not everybody responds the same way.

1703
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: You don't, and you don't have to take it right.

1704
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 2: You don't have to take it.

1705
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 4: So I guess if you take it, you try to

1706
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 4: get skinny, huh.

1707
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but you don't have to, right. I

1708
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: mean there's studies that say, you know, you see athletes, right,

1709
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: some of these dudes six ' eight, three hundred and

1710
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,839
Speaker 2: fifty pounds that are just insane shape and great athletes.

1711
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: Everybody's their own thing.

1712
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: The Illuminati. I've had people over here and they talk

1713
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: about the Illuminati.

1714
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: Do you believe any fuck?

1715
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 3: No?

1716
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: Literally, people come on and think it's real. Yeah, okay,

1717
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 2: So like, what are the other ones? There's the Illuminati,

1718
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: and who are the other ones that are like that?

1719
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: There's like other secret groups.

1720
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 4: Right, yes, yes, yes, secret societies.

1721
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 3: Right.

1722
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm rich as fuck, I'm Jewish. Nobody asked

1723
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: me to join none of them secret societies, right, nobody.

1724
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, hello, can I at least get an invite

1725
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: to a cocktail party? Nobody? Noboddy. I'm like, okay, maybe

1726
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 2: it's me.

1727
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 4: You go blow the lid on the thing.

1728
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: No, if it's cool. I mean I've been in many parties.

1729
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: I haven't said shit.

1730
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 4: Right, social media? What are your thoughts on social media?

1731
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: I mean bad, good and bad?

1732
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 3: Right.

1733
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: It's not so good for kids anymore. It's not good

1734
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: when it comes to politics and medical information. There's a

1735
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: ton of misinformation. But I mean when it's social, it

1736
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 2: can be great. But social media isn't social anymore. You know,

1737
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: maybe some on Instagram, maybe some on TikTok, but even there, right,

1738
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: you post something you think is no big deal when

1739
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: people are killing you right, they're giving you shit about

1740
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: everything just because they can, and there's just no way

1741
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: around that. And even worse, right, the way the algorithms

1742
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 2: work now, everybody's social media feed is different. Yes, you know,

1743
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 2: yours is different than mine, than different than each one

1744
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: of the folks here. Everybody's different, and so the way

1745
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,799
Speaker 2: things are sold has changed. The way people consume information

1746
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: has changed. We have an election coming up, right, and

1747
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: everybody gets their own feed, and nobody knows what's real information,

1748
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 2: and everybody now thinks that things in like fifteen thirty

1749
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: second sound bites.

1750
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: Anyways, Delonte West, he's falling on some hard times and

1751
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: you've done several times, you've reached out and tried to help.

1752
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: How hard it is to see someone that played for

1753
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: you struggle with brutal mental health, illness.

1754
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 2: Brutal right, because I thought we had them. I thought

1755
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: we had him turned around. You know. We sent him

1756
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 2: down to Jason's place down in Florida and it's like

1757
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: a farm, Jason Williams, and you know, he's like he's

1758
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: making progress, sending pictures. Dante's emailing me and I'm like, oh, yeah,

1759
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: we're getting this. Then Dante throws the ship over the fence, disappears,

1760
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: we bring them back again, making progress. This is it

1761
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 2: same shit, only so much you can do? Wow?

1762
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 4: Ye what can people learn from that story?

1763
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 2: Mental illness is real? It is real, and you just

1764
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: don't wish it away. You don't just rehab it away.

1765
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: You know. I've got other friends, you know, Tanya, these

1766
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: other people that I support and help you just you

1767
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 2: want them to get help. But some things you can't

1768
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 2: help on everything.

1769
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 4: He went the shareholder in Twitter before, No.

1770
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: I was I wasn't. It was, I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't.

1771
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 2: So what's your what's your back and forth with with yeah?

1772
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, I just love the fun with him, right.

1773
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 2: It's like nobody likes to fuck with him, right, So

1774
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, yeah right. I mean he's got really

1775
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: thin skin and so it just makes it easy. It's

1776
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: like he sets himself up. Right when when you think,

1777
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: when it's your place and it's your business, it's like

1778
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: a club, right, yeah, come on in, have a drink,

1779
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: and every you just assume everybody's just gonna really, you know,

1780
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 2: say yes to you.

1781
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1782
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: Nobody ever says that dinner sucked, right, I just it's

1783
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: just fun and I don't have anything personal against him,

1784
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 2: and I never initiate it. Right. The only time I

1785
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: ever come go back at Elon is when he tries

1786
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: to fuck with me. So like he's called me a racist,

1787
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: he's called me a fool, he's called me all these

1788
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 2: different names. So he's always called me name. I don't care.

1789
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: But if you're going to call me a name, I'm

1790
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 2: just gonna fuck with you, right, because it's because you're Elon.

1791
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: If it's just some random what's the point?

1792
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 4: How important is this election in twenty twenty four?

1793
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: Everything? To me? I mean, look, if you don't think

1794
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a threat, you don't think this is

1795
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: the most important election I do. I just don't. I've

1796
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: known him for twenty five years. I don't trust him, right.

1797
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,839
Speaker 2: I don't think he's moral. I don't think he's ethical.

1798
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: I've seen him rip people off. I don't. I don't

1799
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: believe pretty much anything he says. And so to me,

1800
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 2: you know, I've been trying to support Kamala.

1801
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on d I d I. I

1802
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: like it.

1803
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: I think it's good for business, right, you know, I

1804
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: think a lot of people try to misrepresent what it is.

1805
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: But to me, diversity means, you know, good business go

1806
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: look for people where other people aren't looking. Right, Not

1807
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: all companies recruit at HBCUs right, not all companies recruit

1808
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: you know ed, you know, different schools where there's a

1809
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: large Indian population or where there's a large LGBTQ populations,

1810
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: and so you know, I want, like any other business element,

1811
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: I want to look where other people aren't because that's

1812
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: where you find smart people. And then once you find

1813
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: those smart people that got to be qualified, you're not

1814
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,480
Speaker 2: hire them if they're not qualified.

1815
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 4: Right.

1816
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: But just some people think like, okay, I hired someone

1817
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 2: who's black or LGBQ or Hispanic, Well they must not

1818
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: be qualified. No, you're not going to hire them a

1819
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: lesser qualified, right, So the DEI doesn't mean hiring less

1820
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: qualified people. It just means finding people that, yeah, well

1821
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: just they happen to be diverse. Right, you're looking to

1822
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 2: other people, yes, right, Because you can be as diverse

1823
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: as you want. You can be LGBTQ, trans, black and Hispanic.

1824
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 2: But if you're not qualified, you're not getting hired.

1825
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1826
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 2: That doesn't do you any good. Right, But I want

1827
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: to go where other people aren't looking. And then once

1828
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: you hire them. The E is equity, right, it means

1829
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to put you in a position to succeed.

1830
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: I hired your ass, right of course, I'm going to

1831
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: try to put you in a position. Yeah. Yeah. And

1832
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: then the I what we're talking about is just I'm

1833
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 2: gonna let you be you, right, And so being inclusive

1834
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 2: means if you're LGBTQ, if you're trans, I don't give

1835
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: a fuck as long as you're good.

1836
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care, right, you'll be a lumberjack.

1837
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't care. Right, you're gonna walk around and seeing

1838
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: a lumberjacksaw, I don't care, right, But you know, I'm

1839
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: gonna make sure people are in the workplace in the

1840
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: organization respect that. Right. If you know you're a boy

1841
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: and you want to call yourself Sue, I don't care, right,

1842
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: people are gonna call you sue. And some people they

1843
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: use it as an excuse if they don't get a job, right,

1844
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: it must be DEI but no, I mean, and either

1845
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 2: a qualifier or you're not right. And once you get there,

1846
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 2: just because you were hired in your diverse doesn't mean

1847
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: you're getting a promotion, doesn't mean you're getting the next job.

1848
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: And to me, that's what DEI is and that's why

1849
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: I've been a big supporter.

1850
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 4: I want to get you out of here on this one.

1851
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: Mark how hard because you got married after you had

1852
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: already had some paper, major paper.

1853
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 4: How are you able to tell that you know what

1854
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 4: she loves me for? Be a market or do we ever?

1855
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 4: Do you really know?

1856
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you know. I mean if she'll let

1857
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: you hit you with the touch oven God. No, I

1858
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: made her. I made her go to to Oh my god,

1859
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: spacing out, what the fuck? The little Burger's white castles? Right? What?

1860
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: I made her go to white That was the test

1861
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: before we got buried. And so I'm going we're going

1862
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: to white castles because I went to go in Indiana.

1863
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 2: White castles were everywhere, right, yes, And so I was like,

1864
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 2: we're going to white castles, and if you really love me,

1865
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: you'll eat a white castle burger. She did.

1866
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 4: Wow.

1867
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: Give me three things that you tell your kids, because

1868
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: obviously you you want your kids to be productive citizens.

1869
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: You don't want to hand them everything. So what are

1870
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: some of the advice that you give your kids? Because

1871
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: obviously they know who you are, they know what they.

1872
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 4: What you have, So what they have.

1873
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: So Number one one is when your friends get drunk,

1874
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 2: nobody cares, right when you get drunk, because you're my kid,

1875
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 2: You're on the front page of the paper, and you're

1876
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: all over social media. So always pay attention to where

1877
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 2: you're at and what you're doing, and be respectful. Right.

1878
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 2: Number two, you've got you've got to set your own path.

1879
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: You know, you've got to understand that as you get older,

1880
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to define your own future. So you're

1881
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: gonna have to do to work like I literally just

1882
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 2: work my son a note to that effect. And then

1883
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: just generally right, and I say this to all kids

1884
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 2: and all people right. To be successful, you have to

1885
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: be curious because the world's always changing. You have to

1886
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: be agile because the world's always changing. And then I

1887
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 2: was I also have a couple of really stupid sayings, right,

1888
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 2: and you asked for three, but I'm gonna go further.

1889
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: Number one is how you do anything, and is how

1890
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 2: you do everything right. Applies to sports, and I think

1891
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: it applies to life, right, And I'll leave it at

1892
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: that one because that that's probably the most important because

1893
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: most people will cut every corner that they can, right.

1894
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: And I don't want them to cut corners because you

1895
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: know they don't have to worry about money.

1896
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 4: Is it true that you don't have a shelf, a maid,

1897
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 4: a butler.

1898
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: I don't have we have a maid, right. So when

1899
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 2: I traveled, you know, I've got different places. I don't

1900
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 2: have anything there, right, So I'll do my own laundry.

1901
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 2: I'll make my own food. Yeah. So it's like I

1902
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: have a little shithole in Manhattan Beach in LA because

1903
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: it's close to the ocean and I hang so, yeah,

1904
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 2: I'll get my own food there. If I'm in New York,

1905
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: we have an apartment there. I do my own thing there. Yeah,

1906
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 2: but we do Mark, Yeah, but I do in Dallas, right,

1907
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: we have somebody who cooks my food because I try

1908
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 2: to eat healthy and my wife makes it for everybody else.

1909
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: But she cooks her own food. But we do have

1910
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: we do have people to clean the house. It's twenty

1911
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: two thousand square feet. We ain't cleaning that shit, right.

1912
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: Last question to get you out on this, Anthony Edwards

1913
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: and Maggie Johnson and Man said, basically, Michael Jordan was

1914
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: really the only skill got back then, so it was

1915
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 1: eating long story short, Magic said look, I ain't taking down.

1916
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 4: Listen, nobody they want no time, got.

1917
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: No titles, right, no level? Good for Magic? Right?

1918
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 3: Good?

1919
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: What? What?

1920
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? Because you know Magic,

1921
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: I know Magic twenty five years. You probably know him

1922
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: a little better than I do. But I've never heard Magic.

1923
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: Go go back at somebody like, oh, he's always super sweet.

1924
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 2: Your's Magic? Yeah, right, that was irving, right, right, that

1925
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: was irving, right. And it's not like anybody else has

1926
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 2: brought the skyhook to the game either, right, you know

1927
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: with Kareem and so look, you know, and that's his vibe, right,

1928
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna talk, he's gonna talk shit, he's gonna stir

1929
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 2: things up. So I respect that. I mean, he's been

1930
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: great for the NBA because he's just got a great

1931
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: energy to him, right, And he's he's a social media kid, right,

1932
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 2: he grew up with that, so that's the way it works.

1933
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, Magic was right, and going back at him,

1934
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad he did.

1935
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: Mark Cuban, Ladies and gentlemen, this.

1936
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: Is great, great job. I really yeah, I really appreciate that.

1937
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 4: Awesome.

1938
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun.

1939
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 3: All my life grunting, all my life, sacrifice Hustle, pay

1940
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: the price. Wanta slice? Got to brow the dice, that

1941
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: squad all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

1942
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 3: all my life, running all my life. Second price, Hustle,

1943
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 3: pay the price. Want a slice, Got to brow the dice,

1944
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 3: the squad all my life. I've been grinding all my life.

1945
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 4: Yeah mm hmm