1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted, or should I say 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: welcome back to Packers Unscripted. We are back. I am 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford from Packers dot Com. He is my partner 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: in crime, Wes Hodkowits, and we're back west because we 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: are headed to the NFL Scouting Combine, the annual gala 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, Indiana. By the time folks are watching slash 7 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: listening to this, we will be on our way to Indie. 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: We recorded this just before we hit the road. So, um, 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: are you ready for this? It's it's another week in Indie. Man, 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, I'm ready for it. I was 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: actually hoping you're gonna say, no, we're live from Indie 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: right now. We we moved. We moved the whole set, 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: the whole studio. We took it to Indie Mart and 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: grabbed a U haul in a Mayflower truck and here 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: we are in Indianapolis. No, I'm excited for it. There's 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: no week quite like the NFL Scouting Combine. Uh. You 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: see everybody in the National Football League and they all 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: descend upon not only just a city basically about a 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: four or five six block radius. They're all in one 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: one position, and uh, seeing getting a chance to talk 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: with Brian goodacunst already as you and I will discuss 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: right now, and then hearing what Matt Lafleur has to 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: say down there. This is the thing where it always 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: sets the temperature a little bit of the water. When 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: you go into a new season, everything restarts. This is 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: always kind of like the first quarter. It feels like 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: as you get ready for the next season, it's kind 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: of when the page is officially turned to the next season. 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: It's not about the nineteen season, the twenty nineteen playoffs 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: in January. It's not about that anymore. It's now everything 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: is looking ahead to the scouting combine is kind of 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: that moment where all eyes and all minds start going forward. Yeah. 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: And in addition to all these NFL teams, every agent 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: for the most part, the National Football League is also 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis as they begin to go through their meetings 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: and obviously the free agency only a few weeks away. 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: It's just it's incredible because it's that reset button that 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: you press that everything that happened in two thousand nineteen 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers, as cool as that was, 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Brian Goodacun set it himself. I mean, this is a 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: new season, a new year, a new opportunity, and the 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Packers are looking to you know, continue upon this path 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: that they put themselves on this past year. Well, this 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: time of year, as you mentioned, is really the first 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: opportunity media wise for us to get a chance to 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: talk to head coach Matt Lafleur general manager Brian goodacunst 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: as in terms of the pre draft process here and 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: normally we hear from them strictly in Indianapolis. It turns 49 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: out this year Brian goodacoun has decided to do sort 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: of an off to the side session with writers. You 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: and I were included in that session, as well as 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: several other beat writers that cover the team on a 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: regular base. This that was held on Friday at the 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: h at lambeau Field, and some interesting thoughts coming out 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: of there because Packers, you know, this isn't just about 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: the draft. The Packers have a lot of decisions to 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: make in terms of pending free agents, other veteran contracts, 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: all these things. Now, Brian Goodaquin's didn't give us too 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: much of an insight into where those decisions necessarily are headed, 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: but he did say that really when everybody gets back 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: from the combine and then you have kind of about 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: a two week window there before free agency starts to 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: kick off. That's when a lot of the decisions and 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the planning and and the uh, the path so to speak, 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: starts to take shape for where this offseason is going 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: for green Bay. And that's sort of what he expressed 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: to us in that meeting. Yeah, and this will be 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: to where a lot of agents will sit down with 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: the teams that hold their their players contracts uh and 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: start to have some of those really discussions and you know, 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: maybe have a chance to get that face to face 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: encounter green Bay. It's such an interesting spot that they're 73 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: in right now because, as Brian said, last year, they 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: made a a you know, a ton of moves. You know, 75 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: they not only signed those four free agents, they brought 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: back Mercedes Louis. They they did some things that they 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: felt we're going to set them up to have the 78 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: type of year that they did a real big bounce 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: back season. Now, you probably don't have as many available 80 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: resources as you did when you made all those big signings, 81 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: certainly a lot tighter against the cap, and that's really 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: what it comes down to there. There's no team in 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: the league that's going to have the salary cap space 84 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: to sign four guys on the first day of free 85 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: agency two years in a row. Like that's just not 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna happen. So, I mean, it'll be interesting to see 87 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: exactly how that shuffles out. Yeah, Well, as we as 88 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: we look ahead here, Brian Goodkunts gave us a bit 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: of a preview of how things are going to go 90 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: at the Combine now, just to give fans a sense 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: of of what goes on here. Obviously, what the media 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: is doing or are doing at the Combine, it's very 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: different from what the coaches and the scouts and and 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: the gms and everybody else are doing there the play years. 95 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: The players are there too. They get medical checks, they 96 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: get they have interviews both formal and informal. They do 97 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: all the workouts, which are going to be in prime 98 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: time on TV this year. That's been a big change 99 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: up to the schedule. From a media standpoint, we get 100 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: to hear from some coaches and gms. We also have 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: access to the players. They take the podiums at the 102 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: Convention Center in downtown Indianapolis. Reporters from all across the 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: country that cover the league. Uh, get a chance to 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: be there at two really our first chance to meet 105 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys because they've obviously only been 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: playing in college. So that's always an interesting part of it. 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: But a lot of stuff here packed into really what's 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: going to come down to four days like Tuesday through 109 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Friday in Indianapolis. Yeah, it's a whirlwind. And you know, 110 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: you start off that. It's always interesting how those podiums 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: at the very beginning, it's the GMS, it's the coaches, 112 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: occasionally it's a it's a president of football operations. They'll 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: go up there and they kind of set the table 114 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: for everything. And after that, then the quarterbacks come in 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: and the running backs and the receivers in position by position, 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: the eight different podiums and then all the different you 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: know tables that are around there. Guys get a chance 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to state their case and you know, make some good impressions. 119 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: The one thing that actually leads to some interesting moments. 120 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: As you know, I still remember being at some of 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: these players the Packers ended up drafting, you know, ha 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Clinton Dicks. I remember being at his podium back in 123 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. Uh, you know, Josh Jackson Jr. Alexander Um. 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I was at Darnell Savages 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: last year, but like it's always been something when you 126 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: see a guy at that podium and then two months 127 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: later you end up seeing him in the Packers locker room, 128 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: and those are the decisions they have to make. As 129 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: Brian good Coin said, they have ten draft picks right now, 130 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: and they got a six rounder for Reggie Gilbert, they 131 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: got a six rounder for Trevor Davis. They also have 132 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: their own sixth and two sevenths, So I mean there's 133 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: a lot of flexibility, especially in that third day that 134 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be able to move around and you know, 135 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: utilize those parts, and that is, you know, what it's 136 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna take to really ake that next step. As we 137 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier with the free agency side of 138 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: this thing, Brian Bulaga, Mason Crosby, Tremont Williams, Blake Martinez, Kyler, Facral, 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: they have a lot of unrestricted free agents they're gonna 140 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: have to make a decision on. And by the time 141 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: that you know, all these measurables and interviews and and 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: everything gets brought together to make these picks, the Packers 143 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: will have some resolution to how those free agents played out. 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: So it's like kind of like doing your homework for 145 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: a test. But there's that quiz in the middle, right. 146 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: You got to see how that quiz goes and then 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: start to figure out, Okay, where are you going to 148 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: emphasize where could the potential strengths be at this draft? 149 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: You and I will get a chance to get into 150 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: that next week a little bit more. But there's just 151 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: that whole week with the convention center of the events 152 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: over at Lucas Oil Stadium. Um, you know the guys downtown. 153 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you just get to see these guys in 154 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: so many different ways. Um, if you're an NFL scout 155 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: to start making that decision on not only their medicals 156 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: but character wise personality, could they be a fit for 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: your locker room? Yeah? That the interview process. I always 158 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: think it's interesting because you talk to any GM, any 159 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: scout about the combine and they will always say, inevitably, 160 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: the two most important things that happened at the scouting 161 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: combine are the medical checks and the interviews. The chance 162 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: to sit down and talk to these guys and really 163 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of test their football knowledge and all that kind 164 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: of stuff. Those are the two things that get no 165 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: media coverage because there aren't any cameras, there are und 166 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: any interviews allowed during that part of the process. So 167 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: all the media coverage is on a lot of the 168 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: other stuff, the workouts and this and that, and and 169 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: that's just part of it. That's that's just kind of 170 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: part of the setup. But if you got rid of 171 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: all of the workouts and all that stuff that's on television, 172 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: the combine would still be really important for the because 173 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: of the medicals and the interviews. That's the point I'm trying. 174 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: And that's why it all started, right, I mean, that 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: was the thing. It all started because of getting all 176 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: the players together to have medical checks, essentially, like guys 177 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: who have injuries in college, to get an our eye 178 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: on a knee or a CT scan on some injury, 179 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: a shoulder, whatever it might be. That's how the whole 180 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: thing started, so that these players, these draft prospects, weren't 181 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: basically being flown around to twenty or twenty five NFL 182 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: cities to get a medical check in every single city. 183 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: So they combined their efforts and uh, and then here 184 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: we are now with what is what has now become 185 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: a week long extravaganza with prime time television coverage and 186 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: the whole deal. That part of it I thought was 187 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: a little bit quizzical in my mind, because I still 188 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: think you could end up taping the workouts in the 189 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: morning and run them at night and nobody would be 190 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: any worse for wear. But they except except for the 191 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: results getting out that. But I mean, if you're watching 192 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: the thing in prime time, I'm guessing Don Hodkoitz isn't 193 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: like sitting there reading this thing online being like, man, 194 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: I really gotta watch this now at night. Oh, I'm 195 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: not interested anymore. But that's the NFL. Everything is a spectacle. 196 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: It's the reason why it's really difficult to take a 197 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: vacation when you work in this league. But that's a 198 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: discussion for another day. But but that's it's a it's 199 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: a three sixty five day news cycle, goes twelve months 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: of the year, fifty two weeks out of the year. 201 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: And the other thing too that was interesting, getting back 202 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: to our conversation with Brian Gudkins, was the fact that 203 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: this is an adjustment in how the coaches, how the 204 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: the scouts have to approach us as well. They cut 205 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: down on the number of formal interviews. But you know, 206 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: Goodkins kind of pointing out the silver lining to that 207 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: is they get a couple more minutes now with each 208 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: of these prospects, whereas before I think it was fifteen. 209 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Maybe now it's like eighteen. You don't get your sixty anymore, 210 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: but you still get forty five formals. Those are important. 211 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Taking what you learned at the Senior Bowl, you're gonna 212 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: have your thirty pre draft visits that you'll also have 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: with prospects between you know, March and April to kind 214 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: of sift through as well. So to a lot of 215 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: people outside looking in, it was a big challenge. I 216 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: think there were some people that were even kind of 217 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, complaining about it. But Brian had a pretty 218 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: optimistic outlook on it. What he thinks this is gonna 219 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: mean and and basically with his overlying assumption being they're 220 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: still gonna be able to get the job done and 221 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: in some cases maybe they'll even learn a thing or 222 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: two more than they would have under the previous set up. Yeah, 223 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: and it sounds like there's there's been another set of 224 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: what they call the informal interviews that are added where 225 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: where players from a specific position will be gathered in 226 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: a group, and then the corresponding position coaches from around 227 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: the league will be able to get together specifically with 228 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: those players, just in an informal interview setting, but maybe 229 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: not quite as chaotic as the old school one, which 230 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: involved players and scouts and coaches and everybody, uh, kind 231 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: of all together at at what they called the train 232 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: Depot in in Indianapolis. So they're breaking things down a 233 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: little bit more too, and Goodakoon said he thinks that 234 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: will be be beneficial to have some of these extra 235 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: opportunities going forward to point this out too. And maybe 236 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: you're going to mention this, but the Packers actually they 237 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,479 Speaker 1: will be sending their whole coaching staff and their scouting departments. 238 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: That's been kind of a point in can tension this 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: offseason with the reports that the Rams are going to 240 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: keep home their assistant coaches. I believe it was Denver 241 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: as well with vic Fers another team we're gonna keep 242 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: their coaches at home. Brian said he feels like that 243 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: still has a lot of value for his guys to 244 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: be down there. Now a position coach doesn't have to 245 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: be there the whole week. An offensive line coach can 246 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: go down there during the couple of days that the 247 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: offensive linemen are available and get the job done that 248 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: they need and get back up to Green Bay. But 249 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, for some people, they're trying to you know, 250 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: maybe get a little cute, I think some would say, 251 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: or trying to reallocate the resources in different ways. Goodacuns 252 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: to his staff, Matt Lafore is still like, feel like 253 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of values still having those guys in Indianapolis. Yeah, well, 254 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: I do want to get back to the conversation we 255 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: had with the other Beat writers and with general manager 256 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: Brian Goodacoons, because you mentioned the Packers have decisions to 257 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: make on pending free agents like Brian Bulaga, Blake Martinez. 258 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Those decisions are going to be made at some point. 259 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: He did give. If he gave us insight into anything, 260 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: it's that it really sounds like he wants kicker Mason 261 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Crosby to be back. Now that's another pending free agent. 262 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Crosby coming off of maybe probably the best season of 263 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: his career, twenty two out of twenty four on field goals, 264 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: he only missed one extra point, he said, a personal 265 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: best for touchback percentage on kickoffs, and Gouda Kun said 266 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: I think he I think he used I forget exactly 267 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: the phrase he used. I think he said the right ending. 268 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: He he wants Mason Crosby back on this team. In 269 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: obviously there are no guarantees. This is a business. There 270 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: are all kinds of business decisions that have made on 271 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: both sides, the team side and the player's side. But 272 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: it sounds like he wants his veteran kicker still here 273 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Yeah. And and Mason has signed two 274 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: contracts already with Green Bay. So that's one of the 275 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: reasons why I've always kind of had that faith in 276 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: it that you can you know, when you come to 277 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: an agreement once, okay, you come to another agreement, all right, 278 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: then he starts to get down the line here, ten 279 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: twelve years into a career, if there's no obvious signs 280 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: of deterioration or drop off, in which I don't feel 281 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: there's been any with Mason Crosby. You've pointed it out too. 282 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, his touch back percentages as high as it's 283 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: ever been in his career. Uh. And and here's the 284 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 1: other caveat to this too. And I don't mean to 285 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: keep bringing this up because I did talk about it 286 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: a lot during this past season of unscripted. But if 287 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: you ever need a reminder of how important a kicker is, 288 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: look at what happened in Chicago after they moved down 289 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: from Robbie Gold. They're still not settled there and we're 290 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: now three three and a half years since they've released 291 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: him at the beginning of the season back and there 292 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: one playoff appearance in a decade ended because of a 293 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: missed fundle. So you got to see all the thing. 294 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, he Mason Crosby is gonna have a market. 295 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: There's a dearth of really competent, capable kickers out there. 296 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: But I think history has shown that those two sides 297 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: have always found a way to make these things work out. 298 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: I would think that they're going to put those efforts 299 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: again here together. Crosby still only, I believe, thirty five 300 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: years old for a kicker. Still a lot of tread 301 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: on the tire. Yeah, one of the things I think 302 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: that's interesting here with the Packers, and as we will 303 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: be doing a couple of unscripted episodes from Indianapolis, we 304 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, our annual on location UM episodes, and we'll 305 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: get into, you know, some of the name dropping of 306 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: guys that some different positions that we hear from, and 307 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, those positions that people are talking about as 308 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: as needs for the Packers and and whatnot. So we'll 309 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: get into a lot of those names and who's saying 310 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: what next week. But one thing I think is interesting 311 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: here is that when you talk about these free agent decisions, 312 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: specifically with Brian Bolaga and with Blake Martinez at offensive 313 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: tackle and inside linebackers specifically, I get the feeling west 314 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: that whether or not you bring back Brian Bulaga, whether 315 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: or not you bring back Blake Martinez, I think those 316 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: are two positions the Packers are still going to be 317 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: looking at pretty strongly in this draft. Now, the the 318 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: acuteness of the need, the immediacy of the need, will 319 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: would depend on those decisions on those veteran players. But 320 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: I think in terms of in terms of, you know, 321 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: building the roster the way Brian Goodkins would like to 322 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: build the roster, the are going to be positions of 323 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: need here going into this draft regardless. Yeah, and I 324 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: have so much respect for Bolaga because I think, you know, 325 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: there was a lot of doubters when he signed that 326 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: five year deal, you know, back in two thousand sixteen, 327 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: or whenever that was. It was two fifteen, it was 328 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: after the fourteens. There were some people saying, Oh, there's 329 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: no way he's going to see the end of that, 330 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: And here he is. He fought through injuries, he played 331 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: at an exemplary level. I mean, he's in my mind 332 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: he's a Packers Hall of Famer right now. I think 333 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: he's had that type of career and he's had that 334 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: type of longevity, but you never know. And the thing 335 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: I keep going back to was, and this is why 336 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it could be important for them to 337 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: bring him back again. I'm not the ones you know, 338 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: signing checks and and picking up the phone, but two 339 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: thousand and ten is such an important year when you 340 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: look at what they did going into the Super Bowl 341 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: season and the ability to bring back Chad Clifton, and 342 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: I think Brian probably has a little bit more left 343 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: than what Chad did at that point, but having Clifton 344 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: as the left tackle that season was imperative for a 345 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run, and I see a lot of things 346 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: with Bolaga could be very similar. This is a guy 347 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: that has played good football for you. He's still one 348 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: of the best right tackles in the game, and I'm 349 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: sure Brian wants to get paid like one of the 350 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: best right tackles in the game, so that's gonna be 351 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: something to monitor. All that being said, I think it's 352 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: been one draft in the last maybe fifteen years where 353 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: the Packers haven't taken an offensive lineman. Otherwise they've kept 354 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: going down to that well because you need them, you 355 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: need the backups, you need to be able to keep 356 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: guys in the pipeline. Packers have to taken some swings 357 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: at tackle over the last few years. They haven't all 358 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: worked out. So I think that's one reason why, regardless 359 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: of what happens with Bolaga, you maybe think about having 360 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: that guy there that you can develop behind those guys 361 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: or jump in right away if you need them to. 362 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: As far as middle linebacks is concerned, this is really 363 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: going to be a question, I think more for Matt 364 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: Lafleur and seeing what the direction at defense is going 365 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to be. They played a lot of sub package safety 366 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: this year in the box with Ibraheim Campbell and Raven Green. 367 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: I'm curious if that is really by design or if 368 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: that was mostly by necessity. Um and we're gonna find 369 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: out in twenty But depending what happens with Blake Martinez. 370 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: That's one spot, maybe two spots that you're gonna need 371 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: to address. Yeah, well, and we and we will hear 372 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: from Matt Lafleur on Tuesday in Indianapolis, So when we 373 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: do a couple of shows from India, will certainly be 374 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: talking about a lot of his comments from the podium 375 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: at the convention Center. Goudakunts also had he shared some 376 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: thoughts with regard to the youth on this roster and 377 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: as any GM I mean, and I don't care whether 378 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about Ron Wolf or Ted Thompson or Brian Goodakuns. 379 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy would would say it as well, the biggest 380 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: improvement for this team when when you get to this 381 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: stage the Packers made all their the big free agent 382 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: signings a year ago, you end up making a run 383 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game. Your biggest improvement is most 384 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: likely going to come from within. It's going to come 385 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: from the young guys who are taking that next step. 386 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: Now you could be talking about you know, Jairo, Alexander, 387 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins, you know, guys like that. But Gudakunst also 388 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: is you know, looking at guys that wide receiver and 389 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: tight end and whatnot and and what are they going 390 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: to do? Those are positions I think the Packers will 391 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: be looking at in the draft as well. So some 392 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: interesting thoughts there in terms of just how exactly this 393 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: puzzle is going to fit together when Brian goudacunst arrives 394 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: at the ninety man roster that he's going to take 395 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: into training camp in late July. Yeah, first and foremost, 396 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: and again we'll discuss this next week. But tight end 397 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: isn't nearly as deep as it was last year in 398 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: this draft. Oh yeah, they're there there. I mean you 399 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: look at some of the projections. Now, last year we 400 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: were talking about two tight ends almost certainly going in 401 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: the first round, and they did. They both went in 402 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: the top twenty, if I'm not mistaken, the two tight 403 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: ends from Iowa. This year, there's talk that there may 404 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: not be a single tight end drafted in the first 405 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: round at all. So it's a completely different class at 406 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: that specific position. But regardless of whether or not it 407 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: was deep, j Sternberger has to be a big part 408 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: of this. You know, I said all season, I said 409 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: it even going into this season with the tight end, 410 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: you gotta be patient you gotta let them develop. Year two, 411 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: year three is where you look for them to make 412 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: a premium impact. So I think improvement has to start 413 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: with Sternberger. It has to start with Robert Tanny in 414 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: and then seeing what exactly happens from there with Jimmy 415 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Graham in, Mercedes Lewis. Beyond that, though, I just think 416 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: there's so many young players on this entire roster that 417 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: whatever draft picks the Packers end up using and bringing in, 418 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna have competition already here. If they bring in 419 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: a middle linebacker where you have Oren Burke's you have 420 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: Ty Summers, who Goods was very quickly to to mention 421 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: that he's still very high on those guys and being, 422 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, potentially a part of this this team in 423 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: this role and finding a spot on defense, you have 424 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, Kevin King, Jaire, Alexander Chandler Sullivan, are Chanted Sullivan, Uh, 425 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: Darnell Savage. I mean, there's so many young so much 426 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: young talent there in addition to what they could do 427 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: in the draft, and even if a guy like Trumon 428 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Williams could come back. But the thing I really looked 429 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: for on the offensive side the ball, though, is the 430 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: young talent that emerged throughout the course of last season. 431 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: You bring up Elton Jenkins, you know, Alan Lazard. I 432 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: mean there are guys and playmakers that. Yeah, undoubtedly the 433 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Packers could be helped by bringing in another receiver to 434 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: maybe lessen some of that load, whether it be a 435 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: veteran to help Davante Adams or a high draft pick 436 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: those either those guys could help or both or both. 437 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: But Alan Lazard needs to be a player on this 438 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: team next year. E Q. St Brown coming off of 439 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: the high ankle sprain, they want to see him make 440 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: an impact. Yeah, And Goudacots did say all health reports 441 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: at this point on st. Brown are positive, suggested he'd 442 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: probably be eased into some things during the off season 443 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: program with offseason workouts, but everything progressing as they would 444 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: hope for with st Brown coming off of the season 445 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: ending injury. Yeah, So as much as we can sit 446 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: here and we will over the next six eight weeks 447 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: talk about the draft and who you know where where 448 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: they need help and who could step in. A lot 449 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: of times those are conversations for you need need those guys. 450 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: Maybe not necessarily you're Darnell Savages, but I mean some 451 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: of the guys that are those second, third and fourth 452 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: round draft picks to start to carry that baton like 453 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: Blake Martinez did in two thousand seventeen, like Kyler Facral 454 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: did in two thousand eighteen, like Kenny Clark did in 455 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. So that's where I really look for 456 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: this team to get better. In addition to finding a 457 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: few players here and there in this draft that could 458 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: potentially help you from year one, you just don't have 459 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: to depend on them right away. Yeah, I mean, and 460 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: and certainly you look back at last year's draft. Uh, 461 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: the Packers ended up picking three players in the first 462 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: two rounds or Shawn Gary, Darnell Savage, Elton Jenkins, and 463 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: two of those three end up making the PFW a 464 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: All rookie team. They were you know, starters for the 465 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: bulk if not the entire season, depending on the case. 466 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the pack if if Brian Goodakuns 467 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: has another draft like that, Um, you know, it would 468 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see exactly where this Packers team goes, 469 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: because it looks like, you know, this is headed toward 470 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: or you know, another one of these mixtures between the 471 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: veteran guys and the young guys, and then you want 472 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: to see that chemistry come together in the locker room 473 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: like it did last year. That's not going to be 474 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: an easy thing to repeat. But the veteran guys who 475 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: were here, they know what that felt like last year 476 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: and that they're going to know what it takes to 477 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: to kind of steer things in that direction with whatever 478 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: new faces come in. Yeah, and the young guys that 479 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: were on this roster are going to be a part 480 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: of that too. You know, they're going to feel that energy. 481 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Look at Rashan Gary, he was there all year last year, 482 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: both on the field with you know, za Darius Smith 483 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: in Preston Smith, but also in the locker room in 484 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: their positional room. That's really important for young guy who's 485 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: twenty one years old to be able to gain that 486 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of experience in that exposure. And and yeah, there's 487 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: a trickle down effect to it too. I just feel 488 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: like the most exciting thing for Green Bay is the 489 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: fact that they are back in the winner circle again. Now, 490 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: certainly the goal is not done. There's still work to 491 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: be done. They want to win a Super Bowl, they 492 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: want to get back to a Super Bowl, they want 493 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: to get over the hump from that end CE Championship game. 494 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: But they also aren't sitting at six nine and one anymore. Um, 495 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: you're a little bit back up in front of the 496 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: pack again. So I think that that's where you're listening to, Brian. 497 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: It's just incredible from where they were at a year ago, 498 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: at this time when they had nobody left from their 499 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen draft class. For the most part, they 500 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: needed to restart there. They needed to find improvement. Well, 501 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: now you start to have to answer tough questions again. 502 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: Your sixteen draft was incredibly fruitful. Uh. You know, you 503 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: look at Kenny Clark. I think he's gonna be one 504 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: of the highest paid defensive tackles when the dust settles 505 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: here in the next year or so. You have Aaron 506 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: Jones and Kevin King and Jamal Williams from that two 507 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen class, and you already touched on the eighteen 508 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: class with Alexander. You're starting to see the tree that 509 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, bear fruit again. And that's a good thing 510 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: because as as as cool as it was to go 511 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: and sign the Smith's and Adrian Amos and and Billy Turner, 512 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to always have to go to that. Well, 513 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of a get out of you know, purgatory 514 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: free car and you know the Packers were able to 515 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: that last season. Yeah. Absolutely, Well tell you what, my friend, 516 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: it's time to go to Indie. So we are. Yeah, 517 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: we are off to Indianapolis. And that is the next 518 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: time you will see us and hear from us. Will 519 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: be from the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Will do a 520 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: couple of episodes from there. West, Larry and I'll do 521 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: some three Things videos. West and I will be doing 522 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: some stories off of the interviews with Matt Lafleur, the 523 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: interviews with the prospects. We got all kinds of NFL 524 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Scouting Combine coverage coming to you all week long, so 525 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: be sure to check all of that out. For now, 526 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: He's West, I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in everybody. We 527 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: will see you next time.