Speaker 1: And R T T exclusive for you sober until a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, but all fell apart. I had two
Speaker 1: glasses and then the day after that it was bottles
Speaker 1: like full bottles to yourself, the daughter of music Royalty.
Speaker 1: I was introduced to alcohol because I came from an
Speaker 1: alcoholic family, my father being the heaviest drinker I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life. Who followed in her famous father's footsteps.
Speaker 1: It went from Viking into Percoset, from Percoset to Harolin.
Speaker 1: Now Kelly Osbourne comes clean. I never went to work sober,
Speaker 1: I never went to Dennis sob I didn't do anything
Speaker 1: so but the high price of addiction. I would have
Speaker 1: loved to be married and have children by now a
Speaker 1: red table wake up call not to be missed. What
Speaker 1: was the moment when you realize, like, oh damn, this
Speaker 1: is so cool. Oh I love hearing your guys as
Speaker 1: little tiny feet. You got a little feet too, a
Speaker 1: little feet for your size. I do, I do. You're
Speaker 1: actually right and you have really little feet. Will for
Speaker 1: me to be this tall? You got tiny tiny thing.
Speaker 1: It is a good thing. That's actually a blessing big time.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a crazy today is a. It's
Speaker 1: a deep one. This is a deep one. We all
Speaker 1: have a whoa. We have a lot of tic But
Speaker 1: this will be really good for me because when I
Speaker 1: was a teenager, Gamen wanted me to go to alan
Speaker 1: On and I went once. So this will be a
Speaker 1: good one for me, just to kind of smooth out
Speaker 1: some of my might be cathartic for you. I think
Speaker 1: it will be. Millions watched Kelly Osborne grow up as
Speaker 1: the spirited teenage daughter on her family's iconic, award winning
Speaker 1: reality show The Osbourne's, led by music legend Ozzy and
Speaker 1: his manager wife Sharon Shuck, was the most watched series
Speaker 1: ever on MTV. My connection to the Osbournes was created
Speaker 1: through my heavy metal music journey. They supported my band,
Speaker 1: Wicked Wisdom. Sharon open doors for us by inviting us
Speaker 1: on oz Fest, our first metal tour. When Kelly, their
Speaker 1: popular middle child, made this recent brave public confession about
Speaker 1: her traumatic battle with addiction. This is a little hard
Speaker 1: for me to talk about, but I relapsed, not proud
Speaker 1: of it. We invited her to the table to share
Speaker 1: her very personal story. You have no idea how excited
Speaker 1: I am welcome you get to see to the table
Speaker 1: when I'm loving this makeup today, thank you, the whole outfit.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see last next. I was so excited about
Speaker 1: doing this. Yes, yes, walk us through like what happened.
Speaker 1: There's so much like irony in this last relapse for
Speaker 1: me because I made it all the way through the pandemic.
Speaker 1: I made it all the way through, and you had
Speaker 1: four years, almost four years of sobriety. So what environment
Speaker 1: were you in, Kelly when you took your first drink
Speaker 1: in your relapse? When I was alone, sitting by a
Speaker 1: pool and waiting for somebody to come have a meeting
Speaker 1: with me, and I saw this woman and her husband
Speaker 1: had a glass of champagne and it looked really nice,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I can do that too. Wow.
Speaker 1: And then the next day I had two glasses, and
Speaker 1: then the day after that it was bottles, like full
Speaker 1: bottles to yourself. I've been there too. Couldn't even hold
Speaker 1: back on it for the first two is I could
Speaker 1: handle just having one drink. But it was because I
Speaker 1: sat there and was like, you really having one drink
Speaker 1: and you're gonna prove everyone that you're normal now and
Speaker 1: you can do this, and all of a sudden everything's
Speaker 1: falling apart. What was the moment when you realize, like,
Speaker 1: oh damn. I was at my boyfriend's house and I
Speaker 1: was faced on his couch eating pizza, and he looked
Speaker 1: over at me, and I felt the way he looked
Speaker 1: at me, and I was like, oh no, I never
Speaker 1: want him to look at me like that again. Ever,
Speaker 1: Like that didn't make me feel good? What am I doing?
Speaker 1: But he knew you had been drinking, and he never
Speaker 1: said anything to you about I'm like a closet drink
Speaker 1: I don't like to drink with people or two like dark.
Speaker 1: How did your boyfriend react? He was disappointed because he
Speaker 1: hadn't seen that side of me, so to suddenly were like, well,
Speaker 1: this is the side never wanted to see. You've seen it.
Speaker 1: Let's hope you never meet her again. It was embarrassing
Speaker 1: because for the first time ever, I actually care how
Speaker 1: he feels, and I care how my behavior impacts him.
Speaker 1: I only want to be the best version of myself
Speaker 1: my family and my boyfriend and my friends. And I
Speaker 1: was not. I was the furthest thing away from that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it happened like that. I've never had a boyfriend
Speaker 1: who's supportive of me in that area before, and he
Speaker 1: is very communicative and incredible in that way, so it's
Speaker 1: really nice. That's beautiful, and my parents like him. So
Speaker 1: that's also. Your substance of choice was alcohol. That is
Speaker 1: always my substance of choice. My drug of choice is
Speaker 1: our alcohol. I love it and I don't love it
Speaker 1: because I like the way it makes me feel. I
Speaker 1: like that it makes me not feel. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: about that one. I want to be numb to everything.
Speaker 1: And at first I was like, oh, I'm fixed, because
Speaker 1: I don't actually want to be numb right now. I
Speaker 1: just want to celebrate because I'm because I'm doing amazing
Speaker 1: and I can drink like a normal person. I have
Speaker 1: an amazing boyfriend. I made it through the pandemic. I
Speaker 1: think I'm fixed. Oh wow, okay, what's not fixed? A little?
Speaker 1: Do I know that you're just being a full blown psycho.
Speaker 1: It feels a little bit like wishful thinking, like like
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I've I've felt that before in
Speaker 1: my life, where it's like why am I different? Like
Speaker 1: people do have it because it turns into bottles. The
Speaker 1: worst thing I can do is be in a room
Speaker 1: alone with myself because that's when I'm like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: can I do? I normally do when I'm bored, I
Speaker 1: would drink. I sit there and I go through things
Speaker 1: over and over and over in my head. And the
Speaker 1: biggest turning point for me was I stopped living in
Speaker 1: God's will. I was living in my will, my will,
Speaker 1: and that was when I was like, I let go
Speaker 1: of my tools what I used to to stay clean
Speaker 1: every single day, because it's a battle for me every
Speaker 1: single day, never ever going to get easy. I have
Speaker 1: to hold myself accountable for every single thing I do.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it was so important to
Speaker 1: me that I just came right out and said it.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you guys the truth, because
Speaker 1: I never ever want like to you. I didn't even
Speaker 1: tell my family yet. I just did it, and then
Speaker 1: I got all the phone calls because I knew that
Speaker 1: if I didn't, I could have flown under the radar
Speaker 1: for a long time like that and no one would
Speaker 1: have known, and I just would have spent the last
Speaker 1: four years building a life that I just destroyed in
Speaker 1: one drink. Mom, what would you say that it got
Speaker 1: I won't say easy, but you you have more ease
Speaker 1: with your recovery. How many years definitely past five years,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe into ten years that you were just like
Speaker 1: just because the issue is not at some point in time,
Speaker 1: the issue is not the drugs, it's you or the alcohol. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always been me. It's always been ways you. How
Speaker 1: did your relationship with alcohol begin. I was introduced to
Speaker 1: alcohol because I came from an alcoholic family. So I
Speaker 1: grew up with my father being a extremely if not
Speaker 1: probably the heaviest drink I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the best way to put this,
Speaker 1: so that the alcohol was there. I moved to America,
Speaker 1: I was the king, and I was so foreign. I
Speaker 1: couldn't be more foreign, very English most of and people
Speaker 1: didn't understand what I was saying. My parents put me
Speaker 1: in my first American school, and I just felt by
Speaker 1: the wayside. And I've never been to a school like
Speaker 1: that before. I'd always gone to all girls schools. And
Speaker 1: then it was just night and day different. On my
Speaker 1: first day of school, a kid said to me, my
Speaker 1: daddy's a lawyer and he makes three million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: and he's going to buy me a BMW for my
Speaker 1: first car, What are you going to get? And I
Speaker 1: went excuse me. I just was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I've woken up and I'm in the movie Clueless. I
Speaker 1: didn't really fit in any work, so I got really,
Speaker 1: really insecure. I still had those glass I then kept
Speaker 1: getting sick and I had a really bad case of tonsilitis.
Speaker 1: They ended up having to give me some crazy surgery
Speaker 1: and then after that they gave me Vikdin and that
Speaker 1: was all I needed And are you killing me right now?
Speaker 1: I went from having every voice in my head being like,
Speaker 1: you're fat, you're ugly, You're not good enough, no one
Speaker 1: likes you, you don't deserve this people, and because your
Speaker 1: parents are and then all of a sudden, every single
Speaker 1: voice was silenced and it felt like life gave me
Speaker 1: a hug. So how old were you when you get you?
Speaker 1: And then we'll do that rike it into a thirty
Speaker 1: year I cannot believe that. I was like, why am
Speaker 1: I so confident in all of this? Yeah? And then
Speaker 1: very quickly it went from Viking into Percocet, from Percocet
Speaker 1: to um Heroine. Eventually, because it was cheaper, I got
Speaker 1: caught buying it, and then the very next day, my
Speaker 1: mom put me in rehab. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: just vacation without a bar. I'm gonna get out and
Speaker 1: do exactly what I want to do when I leave here,
Speaker 1: because I was not ready to lose my safety blanket.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you were in rehab? The
Speaker 1: first time I went to rehab, I was nineteen, and
Speaker 1: I've been going in and out of those places ever since.
Speaker 1: Do you feel as though there was any parts of
Speaker 1: your addiction that might have robbed you of life experiences
Speaker 1: in any way? I feel very behind as a woman.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to be married and have children
Speaker 1: by now. My brother has three daughters, and I would
Speaker 1: have loved to have had a few kids by now,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't what was in the card to me. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: And I would have been no kind of mother at
Speaker 1: all because I was like that crazy addict that was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll just stop doing drugs and I get pregnant cause
Speaker 1: I'll have to. That's insane that I would ever even
Speaker 1: think that. Not normal to now really getting to the
Speaker 1: bottom of everything and allowing myself to be vulnerable, which
Speaker 1: is very hard for me because my natural instinct is
Speaker 1: just to tell everyone off. But that doesn't do me
Speaker 1: or anyone any favors ever with you on that one.
Speaker 1: Your dad struggled with alcoholism, and have you guys been
Speaker 1: able to connect in any way. I've always been a
Speaker 1: daddy's girl. I go to my dad for everything. First
Speaker 1: phone call every day is from my dad every day.
Speaker 1: So it's really awesome that we get to have that.
Speaker 1: And it's weird we've turned something so ugly into something
Speaker 1: that's actually really beautiful. Me and my brother and my
Speaker 1: dad all bond with each other over because Jack is recovery,
Speaker 1: he's hand Seriously, I always say to him, I know
Speaker 1: it's sort of competition, but I am so jealous of
Speaker 1: the way that he has been able to handle his
Speaker 1: recovery because he's so matter of fact. I am not right,
Speaker 1: I am not I make everything more difficult. He's got
Speaker 1: all girls. Wow. So that's Pearl in the USA shirt,
Speaker 1: Minnie who he's wearing in the bumbalina, and he is
Speaker 1: the mermaid. That's so sweet and funny. I love them
Speaker 1: all so much. It's really interesting how my brother's three
Speaker 1: children kind of parallel us. Calls a lot like Amy,
Speaker 1: and he's a lot like me. And Minnie's a lot
Speaker 1: like Jack. Did Jack have any specific words of wisdom
Speaker 1: when it came to this relapse. I think for Jack
Speaker 1: he was crucial in me just you've got to get
Speaker 1: honest with someone. Yeah, one person, It doesn't matter who
Speaker 1: it is, as long as you're honest with one person.
Speaker 1: And my brother is that person to me. So I
Speaker 1: told him everything, and him and I put together a
Speaker 1: plan to get myself feeling strong and supported. And that's
Speaker 1: honestly one of the most important parts. It's like to
Speaker 1: just be able to just like you said, that one person,
Speaker 1: that one person that you can just open up to
Speaker 1: tell the truth too. And my problem has never been
Speaker 1: not telling the truth. I tell too much truth. If anything,
Speaker 1: you will never ever ever be able to have a
Speaker 1: conversation where somebody truly understands you if you're not talking
Speaker 1: to another alcoholic, because they will never understand it, they
Speaker 1: will never get it. And that's why for me, the
Speaker 1: fellowship and being a part of the community and having
Speaker 1: that ripped away from me during the pandemic was such
Speaker 1: a shell shop for me. Everything that I had taught
Speaker 1: myself on how to live and rebuild my life was gone.
Speaker 1: But it also became the excuse I needed, right, So, wow,
Speaker 1: it's asking for help, that's the part. Yeah, that's the part.
Speaker 1: We can use the kids. I get through that shame
Speaker 1: spiral of am I good enough for help? Help? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I've done this again and this is all my fault again. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: someone loved me through my flaws. Somebody loved me when
Speaker 1: I'm down. But that's what happened until you do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what happened to you. Do you gotta It has
Speaker 1: to start with you. I remember, in seeking my own honesty,
Speaker 1: recognizing that a lot of times I really didn't even
Speaker 1: know what was the truth for myself. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: the one. I actually don't know what's real and what's
Speaker 1: not anyway, I don't know. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: actually really like those things or if I've been pretending
Speaker 1: to like them because I'm placating you. Yeah, not one
Speaker 1: of my problems as people pleasing. Yeah, and I'll just
Speaker 1: say yes to everything. On top of the addictions that
Speaker 1: you've had, you also have codependency issues. Yeah, I give
Speaker 1: become addicted to anything and become a codependent with anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a fixer for my friends. If I see somebody
Speaker 1: that's suffering, I go in and I help. Before I
Speaker 1: know it, I always myself and I've left nothing for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we end up being ain't getting all distracted
Speaker 1: and thinking you actually helping somebody, You really ain't helping nobody.
Speaker 1: You want help some mind when you messed up, messed
Speaker 1: up back there and get you together about that. And
Speaker 1: then now I'm learning the power of no, which makes
Speaker 1: me feel like a bit. You're just like, but it's
Speaker 1: that boundary setting, you know, the human mind. Man. Like
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here like something minute, I'm like, yo, Like,
Speaker 1: there's this lyric that has it's just been going through
Speaker 1: my mind as we're talking about this. Um it's actually
Speaker 1: a kid cutting lyric that goes nothing can keep me
Speaker 1: from peace but me, and that's the truth. And I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, it's the truth. Anything that's wrong in
Speaker 1: my life, it's me. Yes, every single time, it's not
Speaker 1: because someone else did something to me. That's right. I
Speaker 1: didn't get the job that I wanted. No, No, it's you.
Speaker 1: It's you. And I've also learned that it's okay to
Speaker 1: be uncomfortable. Yeah, do you feel like you have a
Speaker 1: really solid support system? In your now. I went back
Speaker 1: to outpatient because I need a new support group because
Speaker 1: unfortunately of my women's group relapse during the pandemic. Yes
Speaker 1: where most of those women fairly early in different One
Speaker 1: of them is like twenty four years now, the one
Speaker 1: is sixteen years. One was a year wow. And it's
Speaker 1: the isolation to its isolation is change. I don't do
Speaker 1: well with change. I'm a creature of habit. I eat
Speaker 1: the same thing every single day. I have the same
Speaker 1: routine every single day. And I think that's part of
Speaker 1: my alcoholism is I learned to survive by putting a
Speaker 1: schedule in place. I do good with boundaries. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had to have a specific routine. People needed to know
Speaker 1: where I was. Even the other day, I woke up.
Speaker 1: We weren't working that day, and I kind of woke
Speaker 1: up like, like what am I doing today? What am
Speaker 1: I doing today? Like I can't have too much time.
Speaker 1: I feel out of sorts. Isn't it so strange that
Speaker 1: my best thinking wants me to be drunk and alone
Speaker 1: in a room by myself. That's like where my addict
Speaker 1: is most comfortable. That's the nature of how deceitful addiction is.
Speaker 1: Because you can really walk around believing that right. I
Speaker 1: believe that you have to be in treatment for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. Yes, and I'm speaking from my experience.
Speaker 1: First year of sobriety is the most difficult year for
Speaker 1: anybody's life because it's almost like you get reborn but
Speaker 1: with zero skills. When I first got sober, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like I deserved to be in any room that
Speaker 1: I was in. And then I'd gained so much weight,
Speaker 1: so I thought that everyone was just looking at me,
Speaker 1: like she's fat and disgusting, and like people are taking
Speaker 1: pictures of me and I could see them, look how
Speaker 1: fat Kelly os One is now. So it's like you
Speaker 1: have to get in touch with one abilities and things
Speaker 1: that trigger you. Like I never went to work sober,
Speaker 1: I never went to dinner sober. I didn't do anything
Speaker 1: like nothing sober, so to do things for the first
Speaker 1: time again, that was really scary. My first year of
Speaker 1: sobriety was all about fixing the mind. So I did
Speaker 1: two full years of therapy every single day. When you
Speaker 1: talk about fixing the mind, what aspect of your mind
Speaker 1: were you trying to fix? All of it? All of
Speaker 1: it emotional trauma? How I internalize them, and then regurgitate them.
Speaker 1: I can fall into like self victimization real quick. Most
Speaker 1: addicts do that. We become the vic quality that I
Speaker 1: don't like having. For me, it was just about happiness.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I wanted to come back and
Speaker 1: work in Hollywood anymore. I had been working on TV
Speaker 1: since I was fourteen, and so I took two years off,
Speaker 1: did the therapy, figured out that I really wanted to
Speaker 1: be sober. I really want the life that I've worked
Speaker 1: for and the opportunities that I've been given, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to take another day for granted. And this
Speaker 1: program has taught me to be such a better person
Speaker 1: than I was, and skills and patience and acceptance and
Speaker 1: surrender with something that was really hard for me. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, and so I'm important to understand that
Speaker 1: it's so much more than just not using. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: so much. Do you recovery still full for the shame
Speaker 1: spirals where the smallest thing can put you in a
Speaker 1: shame spiral and then all of a sudden, you're like,
Speaker 1: my biggest thing is that? Definitely like just feeling like
Speaker 1: not worthy, Yeah, I'm not worthy, I'm not good enough.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to say. I don't have anything
Speaker 1: to offer. Like, even if I'm at a meeting, it's
Speaker 1: very rare that you'll hear me say anything because I
Speaker 1: always feel like I don't have anything to share, I
Speaker 1: don't have anything to add. I feel like I've seen
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, that shame spiral when you talk
Speaker 1: about moms childhood. Oh my god, and like I feel
Speaker 1: that in you a lot. And we're always trying to
Speaker 1: I mean, we're always trying to tell you that. It's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you created, she has, she's gotten better. So
Speaker 1: I'm again, you gotten better with that you give because
Speaker 1: you don't go into it like you used to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I used to be like damn gam like yeah, no,
Speaker 1: she she's gotten better. So I let her have whatever
Speaker 1: little moment she has, because it's only a moment instead
Speaker 1: of like hours or days. The first five years of
Speaker 1: my recovery, at least, I would be whining in the
Speaker 1: meetings about all the guilt that I was carrying about,
Speaker 1: you know, being such a terrible mother, to the point
Speaker 1: where people were like, Adrian, what else is going on
Speaker 1: with Alright? Already I've started doing breathwork now, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is bs, It's not gonna work. I've
Speaker 1: realized that since from thirteen now, I've been holding your breath.
Speaker 1: I've been holding my breath and walking around like waiting
Speaker 1: for the next bomb to drop. One of the exercises
Speaker 1: that I've been doing it is really simple, and I
Speaker 1: implore everybody to do this. So you get three words,
Speaker 1: so three positive words and three negative words, so it'll
Speaker 1: be breathe in love, breathe out negativity. Within ten minutes,
Speaker 1: I was hysterically crying out of nowhere, couldn't come back
Speaker 1: from it. And then within forty five minutes, I felt
Speaker 1: like I had an outer body experience and for the
Speaker 1: first time in my life, I was breathing. Wow, like
Speaker 1: you go through breathing, but you don't realize that you
Speaker 1: have to learn how to walk. You have to learn
Speaker 1: how to breathe properly, because we walk around like we're
Speaker 1: just bracing the all time. All time, I was bracing
Speaker 1: for the next hit. So I'm breathing now good for you,
Speaker 1: And I'm turning into a hippie and I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel about it. Join we now that I
Speaker 1: know that you're into that stuff. If there's ever like
Speaker 1: like a sound bath event or like a meditation or
Speaker 1: a chanting thing. I'll let you know about, Like you're
Speaker 1: gonna be hugging trees before you know. There are scientific
Speaker 1: studies that hugging trees actually low is your blood low
Speaker 1: is your blood pressure. Here we go there we got
Speaker 1: so Kelly. They say that you lost eighty five pounds.
Speaker 1: I did a surgery, the gastrix sleeve, and it's the
Speaker 1: best thing I've ever done. Got it. It kind of
Speaker 1: retrained my relationship with food. I don't look at it
Speaker 1: that I used to comfort myself where I use it
Speaker 1: as fuel and something that's the reward. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: can become addicted to drugs, I can become addicted to food.
Speaker 1: So to not have to have that of session has
Speaker 1: been the best gift I've ever given myself outside of sobriety. Beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I like my body now. I like what
Speaker 1: I'm turning into and discovering new things that I thought
Speaker 1: I'd never be able to do, and I'm doing it
Speaker 1: and it's great. That's the gift of giving yourself a chance.
Speaker 1: A lot of times when you're addicted to alcohol and drugs,
Speaker 1: there's some other addictions going on in there, because you
Speaker 1: just have an addictive personality. I think everybody is an
Speaker 1: addict in different ways. Some of the therapy and some
Speaker 1: of the healing and recovering that I've had to do,
Speaker 1: and just realizing that it all stems for me personally
Speaker 1: from the addiction to sense gratification. Yes, oh my god, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And everybody is addicted to sense gratification in some way.
Speaker 1: It's just everybody wants to feel good, right, So it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of what we use. Some people use relationships,
Speaker 1: and some people use alcohol, drugs, being gambling. But we
Speaker 1: all find the thing when life is disappointing us and
Speaker 1: it's not satisfying our senses in the way that we want,
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well what's the next available thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's do that gratifications and self soothing,
Speaker 1: and we are all in some way addicted to that. Yes,
Speaker 1: I just want to be addicted to something healthy, like
Speaker 1: working out. I went through that. I went through that
Speaker 1: problem fixed pack and I was working out three hours
Speaker 1: a day. Okay, I'm working out the other day and
Speaker 1: then at night we'll shoot. I'm up. I might as
Speaker 1: well go to the jail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's like people like Jada, you are over exercising.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how is that even possible? It's an emotional
Speaker 1: mental I think it's it's an existential crisis that most
Speaker 1: of us have to deal with. What life really is.
Speaker 1: Life on life's terms is one of the hardest lives
Speaker 1: to live. There you go, it's one of the hardest
Speaker 1: lives to live. It's easy. What I actually just thought
Speaker 1: about two is really interesting because I feel like at
Speaker 1: certain points in my life, I've been addicted to reactions
Speaker 1: from like certain reactions from people and like needing you
Speaker 1: to tell me that was amazing. I did the mind,
Speaker 1: I did the body, and now it's the soul, and
Speaker 1: it's all about just putting as together and finally getting
Speaker 1: the payoff and getting out of my way. It's good
Speaker 1: to hear you. It is good to hear you doing
Speaker 1: the work. Good for you. I really doing the work
Speaker 1: that I would hate doing the work because I avoided
Speaker 1: it my whole life. And I'm like, oh, I still
Speaker 1: feel pain there. Let's figure out what's going through and
Speaker 1: dissecting everything has been really interesting that I'm seeing that
Speaker 1: so many of these things that I have I get
Speaker 1: from my dad. I'm just so grateful and I know
Speaker 1: that so many people are going to feel so seen
Speaker 1: and just relate to what you've said so deeply. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Tell us about your podcast. What is it called The
Speaker 1: Kelly Osborne and Jeff Beach Show. What I wanted this
Speaker 1: podcast to be is that one hour each week where
Speaker 1: you can switch off from the world and laugh and
Speaker 1: our messages what you call freaks, we call family. Everyone's welcome.
Speaker 1: It's just about spreading as much love and positivity in
Speaker 1: a fun way that we possibly can. In the next episode,
Speaker 1: I'm finally gonna learn how to be on TikTok O. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, Kelly, thank you for coming. I can't
Speaker 1: even going to tell you what an honor this was
Speaker 1: sit at this table with you three like incredible women,
Speaker 1: and thank you for everything that you do. It's three
Speaker 1: generations of just pure beauty. Thank you. I really mean that,
Speaker 1: Like I watched your show with my mom religiously. We
Speaker 1: love you, guy. It's like we're like wicked wisdom. Thank
Speaker 1: you for coming and having the work. We're wishing you
Speaker 1: the best and I'm super proud of you. It was wrong,
Speaker 1: and I'm just and I know we know how hard
Speaker 1: it is exactly, and it's just for me. If I
Speaker 1: can share my story and it helps just one person,
Speaker 1: then I've done my job. That's right. I've done my
Speaker 1: job because we're not alone, no, never, But you know
Speaker 1: who's the most important person. It's going to help you.
Speaker 1: As the inter was going along, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good, I'm feeling glad. I'm getting us off my chest.
Speaker 1: You're gonna walk out of here in my happy feet.
Speaker 1: That's that's what we always want. We want people to
Speaker 1: leave here on their happy feet. I feel like I
Speaker 1: could talk to you guys, but absolutely anything. I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's come here to therapy any time. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to die my afrow purple. Now, thank you
Speaker 1: for everything. Reading that was like, this was the bucket
Speaker 1: listening for me, so thank you. It really was. Thank you.