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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 6: Uh big matchup this week.
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 2: I was a little gnatin here this is happening in
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Speaker 2: whenever it comes to the Week three matchup with the
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, We've got some stuff to break down.
Speaker 1: We're going to break down some Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 2: Tape we're gonna break down what base packages and sub
Speaker 2: packages there are going into a week like this where
Speaker 2: you can try and slow down the rating. MVP of
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Speaker 1: You doing good? I'm swells? Well yeah, no, it's I
Speaker 1: woke up. It's a good start. Just started. I was
Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't you know what. I love
Speaker 1: my oats. You guys know that. But I have to
Speaker 1: filter my oats based upon my current diet restrictions. I
Speaker 1: have to be very selective of when I want to
Speaker 1: partake in the oats. But it's the future of oats
Speaker 1: bright absolutely, Yeah, yeah, the future source four Quaker so
Speaker 1: that the future is bright with oats. I believe them.
Speaker 2: We got tweeted at by Quaker Oats the other day
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Speaker 1: I started using a Quake R code. I wonder if
Speaker 1: they're going to start start.
Speaker 6: Marketing to pick that one out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean credit too bad. We trademarked it, we did.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's possible.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I tried to trademark Quaker.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was already somehow.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: You said you had some gifts for us. I do
Speaker 1: have that right now. All right, So you guys remember
Speaker 1: how we I put out there the design Yes, opportunity. Okay,
Speaker 1: there was a one one applicant by the name of
Speaker 1: Andre White. So far, so far, so far. By the
Speaker 1: name of Andre White. He goes by Design Cowboy. The
Speaker 1: design Cowboy say, he's the unofficial designer for Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I like the energy, I like the aura,
Speaker 1: so I drove I have You're not the yellow band.
Speaker 1: I keep everything in house, right Yeah. I turned to
Speaker 1: my family for if I need any resources, right, So,
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna go to my inner circle first and
Speaker 1: then I go outside. So my boy has a print
Speaker 1: design company, so I drove about an hour out to
Speaker 1: go grab these shirts. Could easily grab him anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but once in my boy big ape, how
Speaker 2: much that costs on the Tesla charge is free.
Speaker 1: He's actually he's actually friends with my really close friends
Speaker 1: with my old teammate Patrick Crayton. He designed something, so
Speaker 1: I went and got it printed. You guys ready for
Speaker 1: this unveiling. Let's do it. Let's do it. Cook up
Speaker 1: shot here coock up. Notice. Notice he said I had
Speaker 1: a receding hairline, so hair is not he said, I
Speaker 1: asked the one dreads my hairline is right there. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know, George. It's okay. We're here
Speaker 1: for that. We're here for to take he said. My
Speaker 1: son Rufe is opening up. But you know what I did.
Speaker 1: I did just turn forty. But this design is fire.
Speaker 1: That's great for those who are listening. For those that
Speaker 1: are listening, these are like animated characters. It says talking
Speaker 1: cowboy log. Yes, you see what it says in the middle.
Speaker 6: Quicker in the back Chris.
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Speaker 1: your medium medium where my guy? Yeah, I got Chris Beamer.
Speaker 6: It looks like he got you like mid laugh.
Speaker 1: Josh, that's what it is.
Speaker 8: Oh no, he's got you mid laugh, which was perfect.
Speaker 7: It's an animate smile.
Speaker 1: Goodness.
Speaker 9: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that. Love that. Thanks for Thanks d wife
Speaker 1: for for for they Thanks thanks big A for the
Speaker 1: for the print. Yeah, Golded both Boys is official. Now
Speaker 1: this is a nice shirt to go. It is soft, soft,
Speaker 1: very nice. I really didn't do you wrong with and
Speaker 1: you know what when he submitted, I asked, I said, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: where's my hairline?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna tell you what His response was.
Speaker 1: I asked him directly, It's okay, I'm here for this,
Speaker 1: he said, I said this. I said I'm ball headed, though.
Speaker 1: He said sun Ruth's starting to open up. Fam. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is nothing, he doubled down. He's still in the business.
Speaker 1: This is a convertible top that. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to say. This is Isaiah, not Jesse. I'm Isaiah. It
Speaker 1: just shot fire. It's okay, Min's right here. But yes,
Speaker 1: it's all good. I'm grateful. Twenty four hours to reply,
Speaker 1: there's no reply, so there, so we're official our first shirt.
Speaker 1: So if you guys again, we'll put it out there
Speaker 1: for anybody else who wants to take on the challenge
Speaker 1: of taking on mister d the unofficial Talking Cowboys designer.
Speaker 1: You guys are more to submit another one and we'll
Speaker 1: get more shirts made. We're gonna make it happen. Making
Speaker 1: that happen.
Speaker 2: I think there may be some that are headed our
Speaker 2: way at some point because the address I'm with it.
Speaker 1: There may be some.
Speaker 2: I haven't received them yet, so if you've sent them,
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten them yet. I'll check the text line.
Speaker 2: We will gladly wear them. We are all about the apparel.
Speaker 2: We're all about rocking the people who support us. So
Speaker 2: if y'all support us, we will support y'all. If the
Speaker 2: Cowboys win on Sunday, y'all want to wear these Mondays.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: It's not like I don't want to make it like
Speaker 2: a thing where it's like we're laughing after a loss.
Speaker 2: Victory Monday, victory Monday. I like, all right, let's get
Speaker 2: into some news and notes, Pat, what's going on around
Speaker 2: the cow Boys?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 11: So first let's start with the more concerning one, which
Speaker 11: will be the continued absence of Mozzie Smith in practice.
Speaker 11: Mizzie Smith did not participate yesterday either, yesterday being Thursday,
Speaker 11: with that back tightness. So we talked about the depth
Speaker 11: concerns at defensive tackle. You did get Carlos Watkins in here.
Speaker 11: He practiced on yesterday, but he's gonna have to ramp
Speaker 11: up quickly. Jordan Phillips to ir, what does that defensive
Speaker 11: tackle situation look like?
Speaker 9: We shall see you?
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I thought you a question? What's Carlos Watkins? Wait?
Speaker 1: I know he's cap doing some player, but he's not
Speaker 1: a tweet one. Yeah, now I know where you're going
Speaker 1: with him. So on the UH, we will go from
Speaker 1: that extreme and then we'll work.
Speaker 11: The middle and come back paus to the to the
Speaker 11: right side. Jalen Brooks showed up on the injury report
Speaker 11: with an ankle issue. He was limited though, but that's
Speaker 11: something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: UH.
Speaker 11: If he is unable to go, then maybe it's the
Speaker 11: Ryan Flinoy Legacy game. We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 12: UH.
Speaker 11: Treyvon Diggs and Seede Lamb out on Wednesday with a
Speaker 11: foot and ankle, respectively. They both returned to practice on
Speaker 11: Yesterday limited capacity, but they're in good spirits. Might McCarthy
Speaker 11: says they're good to go. Seede Lamb says he's good
Speaker 11: to go, Treyvon Diggs is moving well. I don't have
Speaker 11: any concerns for either one of those guys. And then
Speaker 11: the best possible news is that Jake Ferguson continues to
Speaker 11: trend toward taking the field against the Ravens on Sunday.
Speaker 11: But not but and the added positive is whilst we
Speaker 11: are concerned about the depth at defensive tackle, suddenly tight
Speaker 11: end is pouring over with depth because John Stevens Junior
Speaker 11: practice again on yesterday basis limited basis, but he has
Speaker 11: a chance of making his NFL debut against the Ravens,
Speaker 11: so you might have a lot of tight end talent
Speaker 11: going on against the Ravens. Everyone else who was you know,
Speaker 11: had a veteran rest day like Brandon Cook's Eric Kendricks.
Speaker 11: Those guys returned to practice in a full capacity. Marshall kneeling,
Speaker 11: he continues to be full that CAF issue is not
Speaker 11: bothering him at all. And Tyrres Sweet he returned to
Speaker 11: practice on Thursday, but he was out for personal reason
Speaker 11: on Wednesday, not injury related.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 11: A little bit of the bad as far as worried
Speaker 11: about Masie Smith in that defensive tackle situation, and a
Speaker 11: lot of the good being that Jake Ferguson and John
Speaker 11: Stevens might be there for your firepower at tight end.
Speaker 7: I got an answer for you.
Speaker 13: Weigh in that over three hundred and five pounds, Carlos Watkins.
Speaker 9: I like that was crisp right.
Speaker 6: I hope that's right, Like I would love for that
Speaker 6: to be the case.
Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe. I think he's a little,
Speaker 1: a little slim.
Speaker 2: He looks he looks like a d end whenever you're
Speaker 2: watching him in pats, and that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I mean it looks like where he looked like he's
Speaker 1: the same size as like a Marshall Neeland.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit bigger, a tiny bit bigger, but
Speaker 2: not far off.
Speaker 1: Got you, Yeah, not far off. I have a bold prediction.
Speaker 1: I have a bowld prediction. Quick. I believe this was
Speaker 1: probably is not that bold. But I think that R
Speaker 1: Flow Ryan Bryan flooy u r Flow but Flinoy flinnoyloid French.
Speaker 1: I said his name multiple. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: actually I'm not sure if I ever got it right,
Speaker 1: So I apologize in advance, not flower in retrospect. I guess.
Speaker 1: So I think I think R Flow is going to
Speaker 1: make his appearance, his first appearance. I also think that
Speaker 1: we will see Dalvin Cook appearance. So I think both
Speaker 1: of those guys, both of those guys get elevated. I'm
Speaker 1: almost My gut says yes. My gut says yes. My
Speaker 1: gut says that Dalvin Cook gets at least six carries.
Speaker 1: And I think that that flow gets in there into
Speaker 1: rotation as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, there was a push notification this morning. I don't
Speaker 2: know this by by any stretch. I think it was
Speaker 2: Bleacher report or something that said the Cowboys are one
Speaker 2: of four teams that are shopping for wide receiver help
Speaker 2: outside of their own facility.
Speaker 1: Whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: Flinoy could be that wide receiver help that if he
Speaker 2: steps up and has some success.
Speaker 7: We talked about it too.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I don't As far as free agents go,
Speaker 13: the only one that I know that comes to mind
Speaker 13: is Michael Thomas. But but yeah, just no, Yeah, I
Speaker 13: don't think that the speed is there anymore. It's tough
Speaker 13: man at this point in the season. Who's who's really
Speaker 13: out there right now? I'm also curious, So do you
Speaker 13: have Ryan Bluldnoye that you have not seen?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Flow, but you have one name that is not
Speaker 1: on your roster that for the second consecutive year, I
Speaker 1: think we all can agree that the receiver position had
Speaker 1: the best training camp. Last year was Jalen Brooks. This
Speaker 1: year was who tyer? Billy Johnson? Billy Johnson? And where's
Speaker 1: he at practice squad?
Speaker 9: Not even free?
Speaker 1: He is he a free as free He's sitting at
Speaker 1: the crib so this was the issue that Jalen Brooks
Speaker 1: had last year. Jalen Brooks had the best training camp
Speaker 1: out of anybody, but his continuity was with number four,
Speaker 1: who is a k A QB one in the preseason
Speaker 1: when those three games appeared, QB one's not playing, right,
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing, so he didn't have anybody that he
Speaker 1: was in sync with right no, no, no, R and
Speaker 1: B group. He was receiving the pop no disrespect, So
Speaker 1: he lost his opportunity in terms of being able to
Speaker 1: really display what he's capable of.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: Obviously, he did enough to be able to come back
Speaker 1: this year in the capacity and earnest spot in the
Speaker 1: preseason this year, but again he's just now starting to
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to play in the games. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that they're necessarily satisfied with what he's provided
Speaker 1: them offensively to date. I think he's done as expected,
Speaker 1: but I think his biggest contributions are on special teams.
Speaker 1: He's been doing a heck of a job of getting
Speaker 1: down the field, especially on the punt team, but once
Speaker 1: he gets down there, he's pretty lost. Right, So he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm the fast guy who can run by everybody, But
Speaker 1: when I get down there, I don't know where to
Speaker 1: go and what to do once I get down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anybody who's fast can do that, right, So yeah, Talladega
Speaker 1: knit style. So I think they're looking for a more
Speaker 1: of an impact player there. Again, Tyrone Billy Johnson comes
Speaker 1: into training camp this year. He has the same issue
Speaker 1: that Jalen Brooks had. He with him and him and
Speaker 1: QB one were on point all through training camp. And
Speaker 1: then he gets to the preseason and who's playing QB three.
Speaker 1: QB three is playing right, So what happens He doesn't
Speaker 1: have a good preseason showing. So if you're going to
Speaker 1: turn to somebody, in my opinion, and you're gonna look
Speaker 1: for some help, give him an opportunity to come back
Speaker 1: and and conjoin again with showing forces with QB one
Speaker 1: again because I think that he's a very viable option.
Speaker 1: From what we saw at training camp was from that
Speaker 1: was against our own defense, that was against a RAMS defense.
Speaker 1: I liked what I saw out of him. I liked
Speaker 1: his swag, I liked his confidence. But when he played
Speaker 1: with other quarterbacks, it wasn't there because he didn't have
Speaker 1: a relationship with those guys.
Speaker 13: But to be fair, in training hip, You're absolutely right,
Speaker 13: he was on point with four. But when you get
Speaker 13: into the preseason game, granted, he doesn't have the chemistry
Speaker 13: that he does with with with Trey Lance, but I
Speaker 13: didn't see him really getting open. And correct me if
Speaker 13: I'm wrong, but I don't think he was really getting open.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't disagree with you. I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with you. But again, I don't want to say that.
Speaker 1: You have to take care of your business individually as
Speaker 1: a player, right, and you have the position yourself to
Speaker 1: be no matter who your quarterback is. But there is
Speaker 1: I will say this, right, this is a I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I can't really put my finger on it.
Speaker 1: But there's something about playing with your guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's something about playing with your guy
Speaker 1: and the confidence that you have and getting the CD
Speaker 1: from Cooper Rush versus CD from Den Prescott. That's two
Speaker 1: entirely different players. Yes, completely, Yeah, So, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't want to it's not an excuse, but it is
Speaker 1: just totally it is a real justification, right, So I
Speaker 1: would like to see him having it. Don't know, everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh no, we need a bigger name
Speaker 1: than that. You need a big receiver, You need a
Speaker 1: big you need a big receiver. They don't have a
Speaker 1: big receiver.
Speaker 11: Big athletic attacks the the catch with physicality and violence.
Speaker 11: That's Royn Flinoy, And I think that the challenges Well,
Speaker 11: I'll say this, I'm not ready to write off Jalen
Speaker 11: Brooks because I saw that, Yes, he's had two great
Speaker 11: training camps. He actually was able to translate last year's
Speaker 11: training camp into some positive reps when the Cowboys needed
Speaker 11: they had some issues at that position. So I still
Speaker 11: think there's a good ceiling on him. That being said,
Speaker 11: it's a numbers game as far as who's active, right,
Speaker 11: because you're so we got Ceedee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Jalen
Speaker 11: Tobert's going to be active, Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 1: Who's your five? Right? So number five?
Speaker 11: I wouldn't mind seeing Flinoy as number five this week.
Speaker 11: So you can start seeing what the young man can do.
Speaker 11: Can he start building on the trajectory that he had
Speaker 11: in the preseason because every preseason game he had he
Speaker 11: just went up, up, up, and that was with QB three, Yeah, right,
Speaker 11: who had some accuracy issues. What does he look like
Speaker 11: with QB one who doesn't have those types of accuracy issues.
Speaker 11: So I'm not writing off Jalen Brooks at all, but
Speaker 11: I will say if it is a game where he's
Speaker 11: not one hundred percent Jalen Brooks, I mean by all means,
Speaker 11: put Ryan.
Speaker 9: Flnoy in, then let's see what you can do. Yeah,
Speaker 9: let's see what you got there.
Speaker 1: I like him.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take our first break because when we
Speaker 2: come back, I want to dive into these packag base
Speaker 2: packages and sub packages of Mike Zimmer. We kind of
Speaker 2: talked about it earlier in the week. We teased to
Speaker 2: it going into Friday. I wanted to get Isaiah's representation
Speaker 2: in his thought process whenever it comes to Mike Zimmer's
Speaker 2: system and how it does differ from what we had
Speaker 2: seen in the past, and what to look for on
Speaker 2: Sunday whenever Lamarn Jackson and the Ravens come to town.
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Speaker 2: before we get into Mike zimmer, I had a question
Speaker 2: on the text line from the two three one from
Speaker 2: one twenty three am the.
Speaker 11: Fact that he's thinking about talking cowboys at one twenty
Speaker 11: three it golded.
Speaker 6: Goat it got it, Gody, he asked question.
Speaker 2: And since we're early in the season, I want to
Speaker 2: I want to just explain it real quick. What is
Speaker 2: the thing that you do at the end of your
Speaker 2: podcast with your arms? And it's the Bushwhacker, right, Bushwacker
Speaker 2: A little from w W E w W f WW
Speaker 2: wrestling ode to the Bushwhackers. Uh, the Bushwacker brothers, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: And I'm.
Speaker 6: Not a wrestling guy, so I just go along with it.
Speaker 11: To the bushwhackers and rest in peace. But it's also
Speaker 11: a shout out to Rob Phillips.
Speaker 1: Roppy Baby, Roppie Island.
Speaker 9: I love it. RP, who actually the starter.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he was the author of it on this podcast,
Speaker 11: and I was able to join in with you guys
Speaker 11: when he when it really had taken hold and Rob
Speaker 11: PI and I jumped off real quick because he's a
Speaker 11: wrestling nerd. I'm a wrestling nerd, So once I saw
Speaker 11: him doing that, I was like, ha ha, yeah, I
Speaker 11: want to.
Speaker 2: The one time that it was going to be tough
Speaker 2: because we've always had at least one wrestling nerd on
Speaker 2: the show. Usually it was Rob and and then heck
Speaker 2: my heck, my love's wrestling too, and you've got you've
Speaker 2: got Patrick on there, you've got Josh.
Speaker 6: But last year whenever we had not only do we.
Speaker 9: Have THEODA, yeah, that's he was almost.
Speaker 6: On the crying out for wrestling.
Speaker 2: So like we that was the those struggles, like trying
Speaker 2: to continue that tradition until we felt those last year.
Speaker 1: Rope. Yeah, so that's what we do.
Speaker 2: It's an ode to Rob p Island, to Rob Phillips,
Speaker 2: the Goat and then we've got some wrestling undertones to
Speaker 2: it as well, but it's just we've done it since
Speaker 2: what twenty twenty one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man shots out to whom?
Speaker 13: Then for Summerson, I didn't I didn't see the correlation.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: I'm very disappointing.
Speaker 7: I didn't ay to be. I didn't need to be a.
Speaker 2: Very disappointed disappointed you too, Fire, So we weren't able
Speaker 2: to connect the dots there, but we're going to connect
Speaker 2: the dots to what some fans are are questioning whenever
Speaker 2: it comes to Mike zimmers defense sick.
Speaker 1: There you go transition, Pat.
Speaker 2: I know we had talked about it earlier, but base
Speaker 2: package sub package, just for the casual football fan, outline
Speaker 2: what the difference is between the two.
Speaker 11: So what I want to do is, because I have
Speaker 11: some numbers and trends here, I would like the former
Speaker 11: NFL player to go ahead and break down the bases
Speaker 11: and subs, and then what I would do is I'll
Speaker 11: follow up on irs and I'll give people some trends
Speaker 11: as far as what the Cowboys have done through the
Speaker 11: first two weeks and what Mike Zimmer typically does over
Speaker 11: the course of the season. Yeah, in the most simplistic form, Right,
Speaker 11: you have your base defense, meaning that you have four
Speaker 11: down linemen for this particular defense, four down linemen, three linebackers,
Speaker 11: two corners, two safeties. That's usually your your defense of
Speaker 11: personnel that you come out with. When you start talking.
Speaker 1: About your sub packages, now you're talking about matching the
Speaker 1: personnel of the opposing team. So obviously, if you come
Speaker 1: in with two tight ends or one tight end, then
Speaker 1: I'm going to probably stay with my base, right, my
Speaker 1: four down my three linebackers. If I come in with
Speaker 1: three receivers, it's probably most of the time it's not
Speaker 1: a good idea to stay with your four down linemen
Speaker 1: and three linebackers. You might want to go down to
Speaker 1: two linebackers and bring in an additional cornerback. So now
Speaker 1: you have two linebackers, three cornerbacks, two safeties, right, So
Speaker 1: then if what would that be called for the fans
Speaker 1: out there, that's the Nickel package, right. So then once
Speaker 1: you go to dime, okay, dime, now you're bringing in
Speaker 1: four cornerbacks, and then you have two safeties over the
Speaker 1: top typically, and you can even go from there right
Speaker 1: and go to five. There's a whole bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: that you can do. You can make whatever you want, right.
Speaker 1: But pretty much what we're getting at is most teams,
Speaker 1: most defensive coordinators sit in the box, right, Usually relatively
Speaker 1: difficult for defensive coordinators sit on the field. It's a
Speaker 1: different perspective unless they're just veterans okay, and they just
Speaker 1: understand the game. But most reason why most starting defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators sit in the box because they can see the
Speaker 1: personnel groupings that are coming in off the field. So
Speaker 1: when a play finishes, immediately the office of coordinator yells
Speaker 1: out eleven personnel eleven or whatever the name of it is. Right,
Speaker 1: So immediately the players know, all right, I'm going in
Speaker 1: to get a tight end out. I'm the receiver, I'm
Speaker 1: the third receiver, tight end, you come out. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. Now the defensive coordinator is looking on the sideline.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, that's what they're coming in with. All right, now,
Speaker 1: I'm changing nickel nickel nickel, and they go in with
Speaker 1: their substitutions. So they're matching personnels to put them in
Speaker 1: the best situation possible to be able to handle whatever
Speaker 1: it is going to be presented on that play. Coach Zimra,
Speaker 1: as you'll get into doesn't necessarily always do that. Okay,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll come out with three receivers and most of
Speaker 1: the time if they go to four, he'll change. But
Speaker 1: if they go to three receivers, most defensive coordinators would
Speaker 1: go to Nickel. Yes, some defensive coordinators like, you know what, No,
Speaker 1: my system is my system. We're staying base, meaning that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one of my three linebackers now and
Speaker 1: just walk him out and have him just try to
Speaker 1: disrupt what your what you're what your slot receiver is
Speaker 1: now doing.
Speaker 7: Akaa Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So that is it in its most simplistic form.
Speaker 1: Some coaches, most coaches match personnel groupings based upon what's
Speaker 1: coming in. Some coaches don't because they're just that confident
Speaker 1: in their scheme. They are.
Speaker 11: And the thing is is that we're talking two sides
Speaker 11: of the coin between week one and week two. As
Speaker 11: far as how Zimmer called this game, each one of
Speaker 11: those games got some trends here. I was doing some
Speaker 11: some of my homework because yeah, science so versus the Browns,
Speaker 11: the Cowboys ran so like like I said, I said,
Speaker 11: so Nickel could be four three three four depending on
Speaker 11: what the base is supposed to be. Three man, three
Speaker 11: down man front, four down man front. Whatever the case, however,
Speaker 11: nickel could be seen as a subpackage unless it's run
Speaker 11: the majority of the time. The Cowboys ran Nickel against
Speaker 11: the Browns eighty nine percent of the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight, That made nickel their base in that game.
Speaker 11: They ran their base in that game only eleven percent
Speaker 11: and zero of the Snaps had a four down man front.
Speaker 9: No, four to three.
Speaker 11: Okay, So these so the base was most pure.
Speaker 2: If you look at what they want to do as
Speaker 2: a defense, it's probably classified as multiple.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean that's because that's there's gonna be some some mundy,
Speaker 11: some money boarders as far as four to three?
Speaker 1: Correct? Whoever has down like that?
Speaker 7: And was that a Bill Belichick sort of.
Speaker 13: Ideal back whenever the Patriots were going seventeen and zher like.
Speaker 13: I think I feel like he was dates back even
Speaker 13: further than that, further than that, Okay.
Speaker 2: I might be mistaken. I'm based off of where I
Speaker 2: was looking at you because you played for Belichick. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that comes from that parcel except from the parcels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got it, there you go, now, so keep that
Speaker 1: in mind.
Speaker 11: So they ran nickel eighty nine percent against the Browns,
Speaker 11: based only eleven percent against the Browns.
Speaker 9: And this quite literally flips.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 9: These numbers are real. First's the Saints.
Speaker 11: They ran nickel eleven percent of the time and they
Speaker 11: ran base eighty nine percent.
Speaker 1: Of the time. So that like an actual complete flip.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and they got cooked for it.
Speaker 1: They got cooked. And just remind the people, let's go
Speaker 1: back a year, right, this this defense, a personnel grouping
Speaker 1: was founded on the basis of a nickel defense. So
Speaker 1: this personnel that you have is nickel. And we have
Speaker 1: this conversation when we were looking at defensive coordinators, I said,
Speaker 1: you don't currently have the personnel to run the defense
Speaker 1: that Mike Zimmer likes to run, both up front and
Speaker 1: in the second. Right, So now we start talking about
Speaker 1: the game that so far right, the work that we
Speaker 1: have to look at, the game in which you were
Speaker 1: the most impactful defensively. You ran the personnel groupings that
Speaker 1: from the roster from last year. Now when you try
Speaker 1: to say, okay, now I'm gonna do my system, my
Speaker 1: three linebackers, my four down guys, what happened?
Speaker 9: They got cooked? But in number support that as well.
Speaker 11: Thus far through the first two games, bass Package Split said, well,
Speaker 11: in the base, they're allowing seven point two yards per
Speaker 11: per play. Okay, in the nickel they're only allowing three
Speaker 11: point seven yards per play.
Speaker 9: This is a nickel personnel, yep.
Speaker 1: So because most people are gonna look at that and say, well,
Speaker 1: you're bigger in base. Yes, you are bigger in base,
Speaker 1: but if your personnel is smaller in stature, you might
Speaker 1: as well be faster. Yeah, if we're gonna be if
Speaker 1: we're gonna be smaller, we might as well be faster. Right,
Speaker 1: And that was the DQA, right, I mean, you were
Speaker 1: gonna use our lessis were we're smaller. Marky's bells faster
Speaker 1: than you're than your guard. So he's gonna run around
Speaker 1: your guys. Yeah right, Like that's what that's what he
Speaker 1: did right now. Sometimes if they get up on us,
Speaker 1: we're screwed, right, But if the offensive linemen get up
Speaker 1: on your smaller linebackers, you're screwed too. Yeah, right, So
Speaker 1: you might as well have the ability to dip, dive, dodge,
Speaker 1: dip and dive, so versus taking head off.
Speaker 11: And also what's interesting about Mike Zimmers. He doesn't like
Speaker 11: to swing too far to the other side and take
Speaker 11: additional linebackers off of the field unnecessarily, well, unnecessarily subjective,
Speaker 11: but in his eyes, unnecessarily. He hasn't run a single
Speaker 11: rep of dime coverage through two games, not a single one.
Speaker 9: Wow, and dime being one linebacker. Zimmer is not feeling that.
Speaker 1: Regardless of how athletic that linebacker may not happening, it's
Speaker 1: not happening with Mike Zimmer, so dime. So if Dime's
Speaker 1: not happening, you can count quarters out and quarters being
Speaker 1: the maximum amount of defensive backs that you can have
Speaker 1: at the expense of your linebackers. So, I mean, it
Speaker 1: seems like this is trending toward that.
Speaker 11: And this what's going to be interesting for Mike Zimmer
Speaker 11: because I look back at his years in Cincinnati as
Speaker 11: defensive coordinator. I looked at the twenty seventeen season with
Speaker 11: the Minnesota Vikings, which is when they went deep into
Speaker 11: the playoffs, and he ran a good bit of bass.
Speaker 11: So now comes the situation where how is he going
Speaker 11: to adapt to a nickel personnel, But he's trying to
Speaker 11: run his system over four to three A lot of
Speaker 11: time to figure it out, obviously with a seventeen game
Speaker 11: season plus hopefully the playoffs, but as sooner the better,
Speaker 11: and as we enter Week three against the Ravens, you
Speaker 11: don't know which version of Mike Zimmer is going to
Speaker 11: show up. As far as is he going to run
Speaker 11: full nickel? Is he going to run full base? I
Speaker 11: would advise just going back to full nickel, especially against
Speaker 11: a mobile quarterback in Lamar. It worked against de Sean
Speaker 11: put it back in.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my question, what would you do?
Speaker 2: Would you play nickel dime? I think at this point
Speaker 2: is out of the question. Which is interesting because if
Speaker 2: you look back to dan Quinn last year, Dallas ran
Speaker 2: sixty percent of their snaps out of dime, which means
Speaker 2: of course extra DB's less linebackers.
Speaker 1: A lot of that was the average around the league.
Speaker 9: There was no one above twenty five percent at dime,
Speaker 9: and the.
Speaker 11: Average even lower, no one about twenty one was above
Speaker 11: twenty five percent.
Speaker 2: Part of that was because had sixty didn't have the linebackers,
Speaker 2: you had them pretty much.
Speaker 7: What percentage was nickel last week?
Speaker 1: Last week Nichol was eighty No No eleven percent.
Speaker 13: Last week eleven percent. And that's why you saw the
Speaker 13: dip in uh snaps for tomorrow.
Speaker 9: That is where the Marveo overshown comes into play. Bass
Speaker 9: versus sub.
Speaker 11: He's not been getting a lot of burning base if any,
Speaker 11: but he's getting a ton of it and like Nicholas
Speaker 11: sub packages right, So goes back.
Speaker 1: To my point.
Speaker 11: You want a spy, you want to use him as
Speaker 11: a spy, then you have to keep him on the field.
Speaker 11: And if he's not in your base, then it's going
Speaker 11: to be a lot of sub in order to keep
Speaker 11: him on the field.
Speaker 7: And the direct quote was not necessarily spy, but something like.
Speaker 11: It from him, something like that, something like something like it.
Speaker 11: And then Mike Zimmer said, yeah, it could be over.
Speaker 1: Shown or it could be Michael Parsons because that guy's
Speaker 1: pretty fast in the athletics.
Speaker 11: So one of the two, the Cowboys will have an
Speaker 11: eye on the March. They'll have an eye on that guy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: So you would go Nickel Nickel on why why no
Speaker 1: demo and bass? Why not?
Speaker 11: Their explanation And I explain this on Twitter based on
Speaker 11: what I was told by Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 9: Don't shoot the messenger because.
Speaker 1: This is relaying, this is not me agreeing.
Speaker 11: But their explanation is because he's coming off with a
Speaker 11: torn a cl he missed the back end of the
Speaker 11: preseason and training camp with the hamstring injury, so particularly
Speaker 11: the latter took him off of the field wherein they
Speaker 11: could put him in those base package reps. So instead
Speaker 11: it was Mary's leofile getting the majority of the base
Speaker 11: package reps. So for me, that should mean that as
Speaker 11: more practices occur, you should see the marvel overshown in
Speaker 11: more base packages as the season goes along. This week
Speaker 11: is not the week for that because I don't want
Speaker 11: to see a lot of base packages, right, I want
Speaker 11: to see the nickels in the subs because you got
Speaker 11: to keep Lamar Jackson contained.
Speaker 1: So that's the explanation.
Speaker 11: Do I agree, No, But solution from that should be
Speaker 11: more practices, should be more base packages as the time
Speaker 11: goes on.
Speaker 1: What if what if Baltimore comes out and decides is
Speaker 1: to come downhill? Do you want your bass or do
Speaker 1: you want your nickel? Do you have the size for
Speaker 1: the base? Doesn't matter exactly, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: No, seriously, that's point right. Let's say you Let's say
Speaker 11: you want to commit to a four to three because
Speaker 11: it's it's Dereck Henry. He's coming downhill. We just start
Speaker 11: at the top of this episode with concerns that the
Speaker 11: defensive tackle position, and we saw how out, so it
Speaker 11: doesn't matter without at that point the scheme is defeated
Speaker 11: by the personnel, by the size of or like thereof,
Speaker 11: you know what I mean, So you might as well
Speaker 11: go with your speed and focus more on containing Lamar
Speaker 11: Jackson while tasking the guys up front to do.
Speaker 1: You know what they just just for perspective, if the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys nose tackle, right, if you had a nose
Speaker 1: nose tackle, right's nose tackles are usually the terminology just
Speaker 1: used for three four defense. But nose tackle or one technique,
Speaker 1: however you want to call it, is three hundred pounds, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dallas on average on average, right, three hundred pounds, right.
Speaker 1: Mazi's like two ninety probably, and then we got Osa
Speaker 1: probably to eighty five to ninety, right, so we're around
Speaker 1: the three hundred mark. Is not a one tack though,
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not, but I mean, but he's kind
Speaker 1: of all you gets. You got car so Jordan, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got Jordan Phillips. You got lynnfel Joseph right, those
Speaker 1: guys about.
Speaker 9: Three Carlos Wadi Watt might Carlos.
Speaker 1: I don't think Carlos three hundred. Haven't seen him the
Speaker 1: So this is three or five. So think about so
Speaker 1: Dallas is Dallas's interior defensive lineman average is about three hundred, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're starting is three hundred, maybe three or five.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of camp, the Baltimore Ravens first point
Speaker 1: of contact on the defensive line is three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty five pounds.
Speaker 9: It's a lot of a lot of beef, a lot
Speaker 9: of beef, and the.
Speaker 1: Next man overs three hundred and forty pounds. I wonder
Speaker 1: what that. So when you guys are thinking about and
Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit yesterday, right when
Speaker 1: you start talking about the ability to stop the run,
Speaker 1: it starts with those interior guys, and it has less
Speaker 1: to do with ability unless you are freaking Aaron Donald.
Speaker 7: Yes, right, he is the except exception.
Speaker 1: And Aaron Donald was to ninety right, but he was
Speaker 1: a explosive and quick to ninety right, and that's the
Speaker 1: only reason why he didn't get mood off the ball
Speaker 1: and solid, solid built. Yeah, built four tough. So understand
Speaker 1: the difference in the scheme in what you're trying to
Speaker 1: do and what you're allowed to do based upon your personnel.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with these guys' abilities. I'm
Speaker 1: not taking a shot at that. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: in the game of football in the trenches, size matters.
Speaker 1: Tyler Biades wasn't big enough. He wasn't big enough to
Speaker 1: an initiate to run the ground game that you wanted.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about talent. I said his size
Speaker 1: dictated his ability. And the same thing goes for this
Speaker 1: style of defense that he's trying to instill, and we're
Speaker 1: going to find out a lot about it. We had
Speaker 1: one shot of it in Cleveland, right, versus two out
Speaker 1: of three guys a two out of five guys on
Speaker 1: office line were backups, right, but they took care of business.
Speaker 1: Dallas did that I'm talking about, and then last week
Speaker 1: we got disrespected right. New Orleans just moved us off
Speaker 1: the ball. Right, So we have a sample size of good.
Speaker 1: We have a sample sizes really bad. You're about to
Speaker 1: find out at the core who you have on defense.
Speaker 1: On a defensive front, regardless of personnel. How effective can
Speaker 1: this defense be with this personnel. You're going to find
Speaker 1: out really quick when those guys decided to put their
Speaker 1: hand in the ground.
Speaker 11: And also be careful with the four to three in
Speaker 11: this in this coming off of the Saints game, because
Speaker 11: if you look at the Saints game, go back and
Speaker 11: look at some of the more explosive plays they were
Speaker 11: in that base four to three yep, right, So that
Speaker 11: fifty seven yard catch and run from Alvin Kamara, that
Speaker 11: was a four to three. Okay, that's seventy yarder from
Speaker 11: Rashid Shahid that was a four to three, right, So learn.
Speaker 1: In a big part and I want people to understand
Speaker 1: this if you go back and watch the film. Okay,
Speaker 1: when we talk about base and we talk about nickel
Speaker 1: and diamond, all these things. When you're in a base package, okay,
Speaker 1: and you have three linebackers sitting behind those four defensive linemen.
Speaker 1: Even if you have an eleven personnel, which is three receivers,
Speaker 1: and you have a slot receiver, most of the time,
Speaker 1: almost every time, you're never going to take your outside
Speaker 1: linebacker and walk him all the way over the top
Speaker 1: of your slot. He's literally usually going to be on
Speaker 1: an inside shade, which means if I'm running the ball
Speaker 1: to that side outside the pocket, right outside the tackle box,
Speaker 1: you don't have leverage. As a defense. You don't as
Speaker 1: a defensive defensive unit. You don't have any leverage. If
Speaker 1: my right tackle or tight end on that side can
Speaker 1: get and hook the defensive end. Your next man over
Speaker 1: that has leverage is the linebacker or that linebackers out
Speaker 1: leveraged by who by a receiver. And if you have
Speaker 1: a receiving unit that's willing to get in there and
Speaker 1: get dirty, now you're now walling that line linebacker in. Now,
Speaker 1: the next man that can make a play is either
Speaker 1: your corner who has a man that could block him
Speaker 1: to which is an outside receiver, or if he takes
Speaker 1: care of his job, your next man that could do
Speaker 1: anything is your safety. And I saw it over and
Speaker 1: over and over again last week by staying in base
Speaker 1: that they were out leveraged and always were getting sealed,
Speaker 1: getting sealed by the by the tackles, getting sealed by
Speaker 1: the guards, receiling, and then as you walked all the
Speaker 1: way outside to the defense outside the box, the linebacker
Speaker 1: was getting blocked by the receivers. The next man was
Speaker 1: getting blocked by receiver, and then the safety was coming
Speaker 1: down and he was getting cracked on by a receiver.
Speaker 1: Everybody was out leveraged. Go back and watch it. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of crack. But what we call crackback
Speaker 1: blocks always the receivers coming down and blocking you in
Speaker 1: because you're already inside of me inside and said inside
Speaker 1: my on alignment.
Speaker 7: Just fundamentally defeated.
Speaker 1: Just from an alignment bases alone, I come out as
Speaker 1: as even if I'm running a bubble screen. If I'm
Speaker 1: come out and and I see you as your linebacker
Speaker 1: is the furthest man outside the tackle box, and I
Speaker 1: see my receivers outside of him, another receiver out there,
Speaker 1: and I see a cornerback. If everybody does their job,
Speaker 1: we win. Ye, just off a leverage of moment. Anybody
Speaker 1: who watched the game last night, watched the Jets game.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers did it all night long. Aaron Rodgers did
Speaker 1: it all night. There's plenty of times where he came
Speaker 1: up there and was like, that's what y'all gonna do? Cool?
Speaker 1: Here you go take the ball. Adam Lazaris scored on it. Yep,
Speaker 1: you want to play eight ten yards off. Cool, here
Speaker 1: you go, this is not even to play. But guess what,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get the ball, because right now, my guys
Speaker 1: could beat my guy could beat your guy one on one,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give him the ball immediately, and then
Speaker 1: your guy has to make a perfect play.
Speaker 2: And that's how they ended up winning twenty four to
Speaker 2: three last exactly. And that's how the Cowboys could possibly
Speaker 2: win this week. Possibly we're talk about against the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 2: but will we actually pick them to win this week?
Speaker 1: Our Pickham segment, give.
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Speaker 1: And it's time to update the Pickham standing. Let's update them.
Speaker 6: Chris Beam is the one that is now handling all
Speaker 6: of our.
Speaker 1: Numbers, so that way you can't blame me for winning again.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, I've won it twice and you've
Speaker 1: blamed me again. And so he's the one that's running
Speaker 1: the numbers.
Speaker 6: Chris, I missed who was the leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 2: That would be.
Speaker 6: Patrick No c Walker.
Speaker 1: She has ten points, yeah, ten wins. What's the regy?
Speaker 1: Four losses? Four losses? Yes, ten wins, four losses. Kyle
Speaker 1: is nine and five.
Speaker 6: Okay, Josh is nine and five, the fans are nine
Speaker 6: and five.
Speaker 1: There you go, and stand back is nine and three.
Speaker 1: How many losses do I have?
Speaker 6: You've got three loss three losses?
Speaker 1: I mean, who has the least amount of losses? Who
Speaker 1: who has the most wins?
Speaker 6: But this is this is part of the news segment
Speaker 6: that we're segment.
Speaker 1: We've got to get your dog. You got to get
Speaker 1: your dog. Right, they're building a system against me.
Speaker 6: Of all people you should know about dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least amount of losses, Huskies, same amount of
Speaker 1: that's all the same.
Speaker 2: If you want to get your dog right this week,
Speaker 2: then maybe we can talk about it a little bit.
Speaker 1: We got this. Let's welcome in.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's welcome in our fan representative this week.
Speaker 2: It's Brian and Colorado.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 17: Brian, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 10: Up.
Speaker 17: Funny, you guys are talking about dogs. I have a
Speaker 17: mobile dog watching business, so I know more about dogs
Speaker 17: than anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, let you start it out.
Speaker 2: Then here's our possible dogs and the way that we
Speaker 2: do this if you get it right, it's twos wins
Speaker 2: two year total as the year goes on, and it's
Speaker 2: all teams that are underdogged by at least a touchdown
Speaker 2: six points or more.
Speaker 16: So.
Speaker 2: Possible dogs this week the Broncos, the Giants, the Panthers, Dolphins, Rams, Jaguars, Commanders.
Speaker 1: Those are the teams. I'll run through it one more time.
Speaker 2: Broncos, Giants, Panthers, Dolphins, Rams, Jags and then the Commanders.
Speaker 2: Brian will let you start it off. Since you know
Speaker 2: of all about these dogs, who or is your dog
Speaker 2: going into the week.
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, Well I was thinking Commanders at first, because
Speaker 17: I don't think the Bengals should be favored seven and
Speaker 17: a half over anybody. But I think I gotta go
Speaker 17: with the Rams here. Both teams are beat up and
Speaker 17: I think it'll be a field goal game.
Speaker 1: So give me the Rams, all righty, what do you think, Isaiah?
Speaker 1: I don't even know who they're playing is, so I
Speaker 1: come back around to oh yeah, okay, so I can
Speaker 1: go back through that. I need to start just putting
Speaker 1: the matchups together, all right.
Speaker 2: It is the Broncos playing the Buccaneers, the Giants and Browns,
Speaker 2: Panthers and Raiders, Dolphins and Seahawks, forty nine Ers and Rams,
Speaker 2: Commanders and Bengals.
Speaker 1: So those are the those are the teams.
Speaker 6: I'll go ahead and pick one. I think this is
Speaker 6: going to be an interesting one.
Speaker 2: The Raiders are coming off of a hot win last
Speaker 2: week against the team that the Cowboys are playing this week,
Speaker 2: in the Baltimore Ravens. They made a switch at quarterback.
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, the red Rifle is now the starter in Carolina.
Speaker 2: Give me the Panthers as my dog this week. I
Speaker 2: feel a little crazy doing it because their favorite. They're
Speaker 2: underdogs by seven points. But give me Carolina with a
Speaker 2: passion win over Las Vegas this week.
Speaker 1: Definitely crazy.
Speaker 13: I'm going with the Jags over the Bills this week
Speaker 13: Monday Night football. I want to see Trevor Lawrence do
Speaker 13: his thing.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 11: You know what, This is going to be crazy, but
Speaker 11: something just feels right about it. I'm going Rams over
Speaker 11: forty nine Ers, even though the Rams have issues with
Speaker 11: their top two receivers injury wise in their own in two.
Speaker 11: They're in Los Angeles and McVeigh always gets his guys
Speaker 11: ready for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 7: You think forty nine's gonna drop two in a row?
Speaker 1: I said it was crazy, all right, Isaiah, we need
Speaker 1: you to hear Canners. Let's go Commanders, all right.
Speaker 2: Texans at Vikings, big time matchup between two teams that
Speaker 2: are undefeated.
Speaker 1: Josh, we'll let you start.
Speaker 6: Ooh Texans Texans.
Speaker 1: Where they play at Minnesota. MM I'm taking Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: gim me Houston, c J Stroud, baby got the Neil Hunter.
Speaker 6: Brian.
Speaker 17: As much as I'd like to see an upset in
Speaker 17: this one, I think that Texans will win by a
Speaker 17: field goal or so would this be.
Speaker 6: An upset Eagles at the Saints. Would the Saints be
Speaker 6: the team as the upsetter or maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think? I'm going Saints,
Speaker 1: going Saints. I'm going New Orleans too. They impressed me
Speaker 1: last week.
Speaker 7: Saints for sure.
Speaker 9: It's actually going to cook that second.
Speaker 17: Brian, I agree, shegls going down.
Speaker 6: Yes, go take that.
Speaker 2: Philly Packers at Titans, the Malik Willis revenge game, going
Speaker 2: back to Tennessee, the team that drafted him but never
Speaker 2: played him, and they traded him to Green Bays all
Speaker 2: of a sudden the starter because of the injury to
Speaker 2: Jordan Love.
Speaker 6: Brian, will let you start it off.
Speaker 17: See to win both both of their first two games,
Speaker 17: and they've let me down. So I'm gonna go third
Speaker 17: times to charm here tantaseem.
Speaker 1: Tennessee at home, Isaiah, I like the Packers. I think
Speaker 1: Jordan Lov comes back this week. Well, Malik Willis is
Speaker 1: the quarterback here as he back. I think he's he's
Speaker 1: there saying he might come back.
Speaker 7: Trending back.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be the Malik Willis revenge game. Either way,
Speaker 2: I think the Packers win nice. I'm going I hope
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard has a really good game here. I'm going
Speaker 2: with the Titans with or without Jordan.
Speaker 11: With Jordan, love them taking the Packers, but without Joan,
Speaker 11: love them taking the Packers because of the floor.
Speaker 2: Ah Shanahan Tree, Yeah, someone hurts Chargers at Steelers, Chargers
Speaker 2: at the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take mister.
Speaker 2: Harpball me should Jim Harball on the road against the Steelers,
Speaker 2: who are two and oh right now, I'm taking Zeus,
Speaker 2: taking Zeus.
Speaker 7: I'm going with the Steelers. I'm going with Steelers on
Speaker 7: this one. I want to see, I want to see.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm taking charges on this one.
Speaker 6: Chargers, Brian, Steelers d is no.
Speaker 17: Joke, and I think they'll be able to shut down
Speaker 17: dobbyin So give me the Steelers at home.
Speaker 1: Russell Wills against his job back this week. Chiefs at
Speaker 1: the Falcons. This is a fun, sneaky one. I mean
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and company or two and oh they're at home?
Speaker 1: Could you could you know? No, nobody Chiefs And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take Patty Patty Ice. You can't bet against them, Brian.
Speaker 17: I like, I like the Falcons there. They are riding
Speaker 17: high off off of Monday night, but I think they
Speaker 17: get it done. Chiefs just lost the chick out, so
Speaker 17: I think they'll have a down week.
Speaker 2: Give it good for you differ these picks a little bit,
Speaker 2: so we're all going Chiefs all right here? Here's the one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: except except for Brian. He'll get the chance to start
Speaker 2: us off. Ravens at Cowboys. Week three of the NFL
Speaker 2: season is here. It's only the seventh time these two
Speaker 2: teams have met. The Cowboys are one and five against
Speaker 2: Baltimore all time. Their last win, though, did come at
Speaker 2: AT and T Stadium back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: Brian from Colorado, Who you got in this one?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 17: Eric Kendricks has a boutback game. McCarthy comes back to
Speaker 17: his census on the on the running rotation, running back rotation,
Speaker 17: and rain Dakota Prescott proved who the real MVP should
Speaker 17: have been last year thirteen twenty seven to twenty three. Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Eh. I like that.
Speaker 6: That's a sprinkled in little drop right there.
Speaker 1: Well done, dat. You appreciate the call.
Speaker 2: As always, Here we go, Thanks for listening, Thanks for
Speaker 2: calling and being involved. Brian in Colorado with a great pick.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Isaiac go last? Yeah, who you got with.
Speaker 1: The wire shirt on?
Speaker 13: With the wire shirt on? This is Baltimore we're talking about,
Speaker 13: but we are Omar.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and a man has to have a code.
Speaker 13: However, we know the fate of Omar and the wire.
Speaker 13: I'm going I hate this Baltimore thirty one Cowboys twenty
Speaker 13: seven monster, I hate it.
Speaker 11: Okay, So I had to score right last last week.
Speaker 11: Team slipped wrong team. But you know, going into the season,
Speaker 11: I had them defeating the Saints and losing to Baltimore.
Speaker 11: But now they flipped it on me because this team
Speaker 11: doesn't lose to in a row twelve and two, and
Speaker 11: we're also talking about two in a row in the
Speaker 11: regular season at home. I think Cowboys offense bounce back.
Speaker 11: I think the secondary with the Ravens are going to
Speaker 11: be absolutely overmatched. If the Cowboys don't try to establish
Speaker 11: the run, they can torch this secondary. Not predicting the
Speaker 11: forty predicting the forty burger. But give me thirty to
Speaker 11: ten Cowboys take to win.
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 11: So like I said, thirty to twenty, I was like,
Speaker 11: oh man, wow, score win thirty to twenty Cowboys win,
Speaker 11: but ten I liked.
Speaker 2: The score that Brian and Colorado gave twenty seven to
Speaker 2: twenty three. I think that's about what this game is
Speaker 2: going to be because I think Dallas isn't going to
Speaker 2: be be gashed in this game, but they are going
Speaker 2: to struggle to slow down Lamar and Jackson when it
Speaker 2: matters most. I think it comes down to a late drive.
Speaker 2: Give me Baltimore to win it. Twenty seven twenty three.
Speaker 6: I just need to see more.
Speaker 2: I need to see more my question marks around this
Speaker 2: team going into the year where the defensive tackle position
Speaker 2: in the run game, and neither one of those I'm
Speaker 2: confident in going into Week.
Speaker 1: Three more than I was last week. Passed the ball. Now,
Speaker 1: this is North Texas, Baby Burt in the game tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So twenty seven to thirteen, No, twenty seven, Let's go
Speaker 1: twenty seven to sixteen, twenty seven sixteen the Cowboys. Most
Speaker 1: Cowboys carry a six shooter, right the Cowboys? Of what
Speaker 1: he used? Three of the those bullets through the first
Speaker 1: eight quarters of the game. I mean, they only have
Speaker 1: three bullets left. And I don't know how if you guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know about about Ravens,
Speaker 1: but there's some pretty persistent birds, and there's some big
Speaker 1: freaking birds. They're like supersized crows. What do they sound like?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know that Ravens I'm doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. There's a lot of ravens over there.
Speaker 1: They have they have a raven and Derrek, Henry have
Speaker 1: a raven and Lamar Jackson. They have a U a
Speaker 1: freaking za Flowers, and then they have a whole nother
Speaker 1: batchup them on defense. So I think that there's too
Speaker 1: many birds for the three left the three shots that
Speaker 1: are left in the six shoot of the of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. So I got to go with the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens on this one.
Speaker 2: M This might be the first time that we've had
Speaker 2: like three different people pick against the Cowboys in one occasion.
Speaker 6: We usually do pick Dallas. Dallas is a good football team.
Speaker 1: I just don't tell you.
Speaker 11: I think the Ravens game if they had one against
Speaker 11: the Saints like I thought they would if but they
Speaker 11: lost against the Saints in the fashion in which they did,
Speaker 11: and you got to come out kicking some ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Dallas has lost two games at home, Yeah, last two,
Speaker 1: the last two at home, which so three. But what's
Speaker 1: the braven, what's the greater probability Dallas losing three games
Speaker 1: at home starting.
Speaker 11: Three, because you could argue that both are extremely unlikely,
Speaker 11: because both are extremely unlikely.
Speaker 1: But one of them's gotta give. Cowboys take it.
Speaker 6: That does it for us.
Speaker 2: This week, you're talking cowboys. Hope you have some fun
Speaker 2: with us throughout. We'll be back on Monday, Monday, Winter
Speaker 2: lose to break it all down. I don't need a
Speaker 2: second mic. Come Monday, we'll break it all down. It'll
Speaker 2: be a victory Monday, and we're gonna have these Uh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have these great, great shirts to take a
Speaker 2: look of court to you three.
Speaker 7: I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I hope I am too.
Speaker 6: That doesn't for us.
Speaker 2: For Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah's stand back, Chris
Speaker 2: Beam in the hand of God in the back.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle. I gonna say so on go Cowboys, We'll
Speaker 1: see you on Monday.
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