1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: This he's Talking Cowboys, springing live from. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: The Star in Frisco. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 4: Six seconds, got kitsont touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah standback, 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 4: Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 5: It's a same with your chapter Friday here on Talking Cowboys, 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 5: presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 5: in Frisco, Texas and the s WBC studios. 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Welcome in, everybody. We've got the full cast and crew 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: ready to rock. Patrick no, Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback, 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: with us. Everybody, glad you are with us. 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 6: Uh big matchup this week. 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: What was that? 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: I was a little gnatin here this is happening in 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: this studio. I thought this was a sterild place. The 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: whenever it comes to the Week three matchup with the 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, We've got some stuff to break down. 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: We're going to break down some Mike Zimmer. 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: Tape we're gonna break down what base packages and sub 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 2: packages there are going into a week like this where 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: you can try and slow down the rating. MVP of 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Lamar and Jackson, how's everybody doing? 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: You doing good? I'm swells? Well yeah, no, it's I 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: woke up. It's a good start. Just started. I was 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't you know what. I love 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: my oats. You guys know that. But I have to 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: filter my oats based upon my current diet restrictions. I 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: have to be very selective of when I want to 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: partake in the oats. But it's the future of oats 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: bright absolutely, Yeah, yeah, the future source four Quaker so 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: that the future is bright with oats. I believe them. 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: We got tweeted at by Quaker Oats the other day 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: yesterday official oatmeal sponsor Trusted. 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: I started using a Quake R code. I wonder if 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: they're going to start start. 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 6: Marketing to pick that one out. 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean credit too bad. We trademarked it, we did. 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's possible. 45 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I tried to trademark Quaker. 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah it was already somehow. 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 6: Uh. 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: You said you had some gifts for us. I do 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: have that right now. All right, So you guys remember 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: how we I put out there the design Yes, opportunity. Okay, 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: there was a one one applicant by the name of 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Andre White. So far, so far, so far. By the 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: name of Andre White. He goes by Design Cowboy. The 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: design Cowboy say, he's the unofficial designer for Talking Cowboys. 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: That's okay. I like the energy, I like the aura, 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: so I drove I have You're not the yellow band. 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: I keep everything in house, right Yeah. I turned to 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: my family for if I need any resources, right, So, 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna go to my inner circle first and 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: then I go outside. So my boy has a print 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: design company, so I drove about an hour out to 62 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: go grab these shirts. Could easily grab him anywhere. 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but once in my boy big ape, how 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: much that costs on the Tesla charge is free. 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: He's actually he's actually friends with my really close friends 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: with my old teammate Patrick Crayton. He designed something, so 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: I went and got it printed. You guys ready for 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: this unveiling. Let's do it. Let's do it. Cook up 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: shot here coock up. Notice. Notice he said I had 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: a receding hairline, so hair is not he said, I 71 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: asked the one dreads my hairline is right there. I 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: don't I don't really know, George. It's okay. We're here 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: for that. We're here for to take he said. My 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: son Rufe is opening up. But you know what I did. 75 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: I did just turn forty. But this design is fire. 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: That's great for those who are listening. For those that 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: are listening, these are like animated characters. It says talking 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: cowboy log. Yes, you see what it says in the middle. 79 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 6: Quicker in the back Chris. 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: So everybody shout out, shout out to our unofficial Cowboy 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: fire sponsor. See what size of we got here? That's 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: your medium medium where my guy? Yeah, I got Chris Beamer. 83 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 6: It looks like he got you like mid laugh. 84 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Josh, that's what it is. 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 8: Oh no, he's got you mid laugh, which was perfect. 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 7: It's an animate smile. 87 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Goodness. 88 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 9: I love it. 89 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: I love that. Love that. Thanks for Thanks d wife 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: for for for they Thanks thanks big A for the 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: for the print. Yeah, Golded both Boys is official. Now 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: this is a nice shirt to go. It is soft, soft, 93 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: very nice. I really didn't do you wrong with and 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: you know what when he submitted, I asked, I said, hey, bro, 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: where's my hairline? 96 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 10: Man? 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna tell you what His response was. 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I asked him directly, It's okay, I'm here for this, 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: he said, I said this. I said I'm ball headed, though. 100 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: He said sun Ruth's starting to open up. Fam. Oh, 101 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: this is nothing, he doubled down. He's still in the business. 102 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: This is a convertible top that. I don't know what 103 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: to say. This is Isaiah, not Jesse. I'm Isaiah. It 104 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: just shot fire. It's okay, Min's right here. But yes, 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: it's all good. I'm grateful. Twenty four hours to reply, 106 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: there's no reply, so there, so we're official our first shirt. 107 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: So if you guys again, we'll put it out there 108 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: for anybody else who wants to take on the challenge 109 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: of taking on mister d the unofficial Talking Cowboys designer. 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: You guys are more to submit another one and we'll 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: get more shirts made. We're gonna make it happen. Making 112 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: that happen. 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: I think there may be some that are headed our 114 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: way at some point because the address I'm with it. 115 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: There may be some. 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: I haven't received them yet, so if you've sent them, 117 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: I haven't gotten them yet. I'll check the text line. 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: We will gladly wear them. We are all about the apparel. 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: We're all about rocking the people who support us. So 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: if y'all support us, we will support y'all. If the 121 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: Cowboys win on Sunday, y'all want to wear these Mondays. 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: It's not like I don't want to make it like 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: a thing where it's like we're laughing after a loss. 125 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: Victory Monday, victory Monday. I like, all right, let's get 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: into some news and notes, Pat, what's going on around 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 2: the cow Boys? 128 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: All right? 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 11: So first let's start with the more concerning one, which 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 11: will be the continued absence of Mozzie Smith in practice. 131 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 11: Mizzie Smith did not participate yesterday either, yesterday being Thursday, 132 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 11: with that back tightness. So we talked about the depth 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 11: concerns at defensive tackle. You did get Carlos Watkins in here. 134 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 11: He practiced on yesterday, but he's gonna have to ramp 135 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 11: up quickly. Jordan Phillips to ir, what does that defensive 136 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 11: tackle situation look like? 137 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 9: We shall see you? 138 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: Are you ready? I thought you a question? What's Carlos Watkins? Wait? 139 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: I know he's cap doing some player, but he's not 140 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: a tweet one. Yeah, now I know where you're going 141 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: with him. So on the UH, we will go from 142 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: that extreme and then we'll work. 143 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 11: The middle and come back paus to the to the 144 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 11: right side. Jalen Brooks showed up on the injury report 145 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 11: with an ankle issue. He was limited though, but that's 146 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 11: something to keep an eye on. 147 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: UH. 148 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 11: If he is unable to go, then maybe it's the 149 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 11: Ryan Flinoy Legacy game. We'll see how that plays out. 150 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 12: UH. 151 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 11: Treyvon Diggs and Seede Lamb out on Wednesday with a 152 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 11: foot and ankle, respectively. They both returned to practice on 153 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 11: Yesterday limited capacity, but they're in good spirits. Might McCarthy 154 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 11: says they're good to go. Seede Lamb says he's good 155 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 11: to go, Treyvon Diggs is moving well. I don't have 156 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 11: any concerns for either one of those guys. And then 157 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 11: the best possible news is that Jake Ferguson continues to 158 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 11: trend toward taking the field against the Ravens on Sunday. 159 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 11: But not but and the added positive is whilst we 160 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 11: are concerned about the depth at defensive tackle, suddenly tight 161 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 11: end is pouring over with depth because John Stevens Junior 162 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 11: practice again on yesterday basis limited basis, but he has 163 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 11: a chance of making his NFL debut against the Ravens, 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 11: so you might have a lot of tight end talent 165 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 11: going on against the Ravens. Everyone else who was you know, 166 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 11: had a veteran rest day like Brandon Cook's Eric Kendricks. 167 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 11: Those guys returned to practice in a full capacity. Marshall kneeling, 168 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 11: he continues to be full that CAF issue is not 169 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 11: bothering him at all. And Tyrres Sweet he returned to 170 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 11: practice on Thursday, but he was out for personal reason 171 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 11: on Wednesday, not injury related. 172 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: So there you go. 173 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 11: A little bit of the bad as far as worried 174 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 11: about Masie Smith in that defensive tackle situation, and a 175 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 11: lot of the good being that Jake Ferguson and John 176 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 11: Stevens might be there for your firepower at tight end. 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 7: I got an answer for you. 178 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 13: Weigh in that over three hundred and five pounds, Carlos Watkins. 179 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 9: I like that was crisp right. 180 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 6: I hope that's right, Like I would love for that 181 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 6: to be the case. 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe. I think he's a little, 183 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: a little slim. 184 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: He looks he looks like a d end whenever you're 185 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: watching him in pats, and that's not a bad thing. 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like where he looked like he's 187 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: the same size as like a Marshall Neeland. 188 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit bigger, a tiny bit bigger, but 189 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: not far off. 190 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: Got you, Yeah, not far off. I have a bold prediction. 191 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: I have a bowld prediction. Quick. I believe this was 192 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: probably is not that bold. But I think that R 193 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Flow Ryan Bryan flooy u r Flow but Flinoy flinnoyloid French. 194 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I said his name multiple. I don't know if it's 195 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: actually I'm not sure if I ever got it right, 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: So I apologize in advance, not flower in retrospect. I guess. 197 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: So I think I think R Flow is going to 198 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: make his appearance, his first appearance. I also think that 199 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: we will see Dalvin Cook appearance. So I think both 200 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: of those guys, both of those guys get elevated. I'm 201 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: almost My gut says yes. My gut says yes. My 202 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: gut says that Dalvin Cook gets at least six carries. 203 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: And I think that that flow gets in there into 204 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: rotation as well. 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: Okay, there was a push notification this morning. I don't 206 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: know this by by any stretch. I think it was 207 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: Bleacher report or something that said the Cowboys are one 208 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: of four teams that are shopping for wide receiver help 209 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: outside of their own facility. 210 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: Whatever it may be. 211 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: Flinoy could be that wide receiver help that if he 212 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: steps up and has some success. 213 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 7: We talked about it too. 214 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I don't As far as free agents go, 215 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 13: the only one that I know that comes to mind 216 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 13: is Michael Thomas. But but yeah, just no, Yeah, I 217 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 13: don't think that the speed is there anymore. It's tough 218 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 13: man at this point in the season. Who's who's really 219 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 13: out there right now? I'm also curious, So do you 220 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 13: have Ryan Bluldnoye that you have not seen? 221 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Flow, but you have one name that is not 222 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: on your roster that for the second consecutive year, I 223 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: think we all can agree that the receiver position had 224 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: the best training camp. Last year was Jalen Brooks. This 225 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: year was who tyer? Billy Johnson? Billy Johnson? And where's 226 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: he at practice squad? 227 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 9: Not even free? 228 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: He is he a free as free He's sitting at 229 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the crib so this was the issue that Jalen Brooks 230 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: had last year. Jalen Brooks had the best training camp 231 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: out of anybody, but his continuity was with number four, 232 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: who is a k A QB one in the preseason 233 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: when those three games appeared, QB one's not playing, right, 234 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't playing, so he didn't have anybody that he 235 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: was in sync with right no, no, no, R and 236 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: B group. He was receiving the pop no disrespect, So 237 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: he lost his opportunity in terms of being able to 238 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: really display what he's capable of. 239 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 9: Now. 240 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: Obviously, he did enough to be able to come back 241 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: this year in the capacity and earnest spot in the 242 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: preseason this year, but again he's just now starting to 243 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to play in the games. Okay, I'm 244 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: not sure that they're necessarily satisfied with what he's provided 245 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,479 Speaker 1: them offensively to date. I think he's done as expected, 246 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: but I think his biggest contributions are on special teams. 247 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: He's been doing a heck of a job of getting 248 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: down the field, especially on the punt team, but once 249 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: he gets down there, he's pretty lost. Right, So he's like, 250 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm the fast guy who can run by everybody, But 251 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: when I get down there, I don't know where to 252 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: go and what to do once I get down. Yeah, 253 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: anybody who's fast can do that, right, So yeah, Talladega 254 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: knit style. So I think they're looking for a more 255 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: of an impact player there. Again, Tyrone Billy Johnson comes 256 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: into training camp this year. He has the same issue 257 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: that Jalen Brooks had. He with him and him and 258 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: QB one were on point all through training camp. And 259 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: then he gets to the preseason and who's playing QB three. 260 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: QB three is playing right, So what happens He doesn't 261 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: have a good preseason showing. So if you're going to 262 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: turn to somebody, in my opinion, and you're gonna look 263 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: for some help, give him an opportunity to come back 264 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: and and conjoin again with showing forces with QB one 265 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: again because I think that he's a very viable option. 266 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: From what we saw at training camp was from that 267 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: was against our own defense, that was against a RAMS defense. 268 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: I liked what I saw out of him. I liked 269 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: his swag, I liked his confidence. But when he played 270 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: with other quarterbacks, it wasn't there because he didn't have 271 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: a relationship with those guys. 272 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 13: But to be fair, in training hip, You're absolutely right, 273 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 13: he was on point with four. But when you get 274 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 13: into the preseason game, granted, he doesn't have the chemistry 275 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 13: that he does with with with Trey Lance, but I 276 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 13: didn't see him really getting open. And correct me if 277 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 13: I'm wrong, but I don't think he was really getting open. 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't disagree with you. I don't 279 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: disagree with you. But again, I don't want to say that. 280 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: You have to take care of your business individually as 281 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: a player, right, and you have the position yourself to 282 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: be no matter who your quarterback is. But there is 283 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: I will say this, right, this is a I don't 284 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: even know. I can't really put my finger on it. 285 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: But there's something about playing with your guy, you know 286 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. There's something about playing with your guy 287 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: and the confidence that you have and getting the CD 288 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: from Cooper Rush versus CD from Den Prescott. That's two 289 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: entirely different players. Yes, completely, Yeah, So, I mean I 290 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: don't want to it's not an excuse, but it is 291 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: just totally it is a real justification, right, So I 292 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: would like to see him having it. Don't know, everybody's 293 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh no, we need a bigger name 294 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: than that. You need a big receiver, You need a 295 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: big you need a big receiver. They don't have a 296 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: big receiver. 297 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 11: Big athletic attacks the the catch with physicality and violence. 298 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 11: That's Royn Flinoy, And I think that the challenges Well, 299 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 11: I'll say this, I'm not ready to write off Jalen 300 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 11: Brooks because I saw that, Yes, he's had two great 301 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 11: training camps. He actually was able to translate last year's 302 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 11: training camp into some positive reps when the Cowboys needed 303 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 11: they had some issues at that position. So I still 304 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 11: think there's a good ceiling on him. That being said, 305 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 11: it's a numbers game as far as who's active, right, 306 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 11: because you're so we got Ceedee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Jalen 307 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 11: Tobert's going to be active, Cavante Turpin. 308 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Who's your five? Right? So number five? 309 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 11: I wouldn't mind seeing Flinoy as number five this week. 310 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 11: So you can start seeing what the young man can do. 311 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 11: Can he start building on the trajectory that he had 312 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 11: in the preseason because every preseason game he had he 313 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 11: just went up, up, up, and that was with QB three, Yeah, right, 314 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 11: who had some accuracy issues. What does he look like 315 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 11: with QB one who doesn't have those types of accuracy issues. 316 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 11: So I'm not writing off Jalen Brooks at all, but 317 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 11: I will say if it is a game where he's 318 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 11: not one hundred percent Jalen Brooks, I mean by all means, 319 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 11: put Ryan. 320 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 9: Flnoy in, then let's see what you can do. Yeah, 321 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 9: let's see what you got there. 322 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: I like him. 323 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to take our first break because when we 324 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: come back, I want to dive into these packag base 325 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: packages and sub packages of Mike Zimmer. 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Uh, 388 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: before we get into Mike zimmer, I had a question 389 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: on the text line from the two three one from 390 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: one twenty three am the. 391 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 11: Fact that he's thinking about talking cowboys at one twenty 392 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 11: three it golded. 393 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 6: Goat it got it, Gody, he asked question. 394 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: And since we're early in the season, I want to 395 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: I want to just explain it real quick. What is 396 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: the thing that you do at the end of your 397 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: podcast with your arms? And it's the Bushwhacker, right, Bushwacker 398 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: A little from w W E w W f WW 399 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: wrestling ode to the Bushwhackers. Uh, the Bushwacker brothers, right, yeah, okay, 400 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: And I'm. 401 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 6: Not a wrestling guy, so I just go along with it. 402 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 11: To the bushwhackers and rest in peace. But it's also 403 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 11: a shout out to Rob Phillips. 404 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: Roppy Baby, Roppie Island. 405 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 9: I love it. RP, who actually the starter. 406 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, he was the author of it on this podcast, 407 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 11: and I was able to join in with you guys 408 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 11: when he when it really had taken hold and Rob 409 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 11: PI and I jumped off real quick because he's a 410 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 11: wrestling nerd. I'm a wrestling nerd, So once I saw 411 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 11: him doing that, I was like, ha ha, yeah, I 412 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 11: want to. 413 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: The one time that it was going to be tough 414 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: because we've always had at least one wrestling nerd on 415 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: the show. Usually it was Rob and and then heck 416 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: my heck, my love's wrestling too, and you've got you've 417 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: got Patrick on there, you've got Josh. 418 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 6: But last year whenever we had not only do we. 419 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 9: Have THEODA, yeah, that's he was almost. 420 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 6: On the crying out for wrestling. 421 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: So like we that was the those struggles, like trying 422 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: to continue that tradition until we felt those last year. 423 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: Rope. Yeah, so that's what we do. 424 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: It's an ode to Rob p Island, to Rob Phillips, 425 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: the Goat and then we've got some wrestling undertones to 426 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: it as well, but it's just we've done it since 427 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: what twenty twenty one? 428 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, man shots out to whom? 429 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 13: Then for Summerson, I didn't I didn't see the correlation. 430 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 7: I didn't even know. 431 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm very disappointing. 432 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 7: I didn't ay to be. I didn't need to be a. 433 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: Very disappointed disappointed you too, Fire, So we weren't able 434 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: to connect the dots there, but we're going to connect 435 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: the dots to what some fans are are questioning whenever 436 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: it comes to Mike zimmers defense sick. 437 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: There you go transition, Pat. 438 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: I know we had talked about it earlier, but base 439 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: package sub package, just for the casual football fan, outline 440 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 2: what the difference is between the two. 441 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 11: So what I want to do is, because I have 442 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 11: some numbers and trends here, I would like the former 443 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 11: NFL player to go ahead and break down the bases 444 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 11: and subs, and then what I would do is I'll 445 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 11: follow up on irs and I'll give people some trends 446 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 11: as far as what the Cowboys have done through the 447 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 11: first two weeks and what Mike Zimmer typically does over 448 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 11: the course of the season. Yeah, in the most simplistic form, Right, 449 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 11: you have your base defense, meaning that you have four 450 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 11: down linemen for this particular defense, four down linemen, three linebackers, 451 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 11: two corners, two safeties. That's usually your your defense of 452 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 11: personnel that you come out with. When you start talking. 453 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: About your sub packages, now you're talking about matching the 454 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: personnel of the opposing team. So obviously, if you come 455 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: in with two tight ends or one tight end, then 456 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to probably stay with my base, right, my 457 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: four down my three linebackers. If I come in with 458 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: three receivers, it's probably most of the time it's not 459 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: a good idea to stay with your four down linemen 460 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: and three linebackers. You might want to go down to 461 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: two linebackers and bring in an additional cornerback. So now 462 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: you have two linebackers, three cornerbacks, two safeties, right, So 463 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: then if what would that be called for the fans 464 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: out there, that's the Nickel package, right. So then once 465 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: you go to dime, okay, dime, now you're bringing in 466 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: four cornerbacks, and then you have two safeties over the 467 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: top typically, and you can even go from there right 468 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: and go to five. There's a whole bunch of stuff 469 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: that you can do. You can make whatever you want, right. 470 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: But pretty much what we're getting at is most teams, 471 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: most defensive coordinators sit in the box, right, Usually relatively 472 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: difficult for defensive coordinators sit on the field. It's a 473 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: different perspective unless they're just veterans okay, and they just 474 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: understand the game. But most reason why most starting defensive 475 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: coordinators sit in the box because they can see the 476 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: personnel groupings that are coming in off the field. So 477 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: when a play finishes, immediately the office of coordinator yells 478 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: out eleven personnel eleven or whatever the name of it is. Right, 479 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: So immediately the players know, all right, I'm going in 480 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: to get a tight end out. I'm the receiver, I'm 481 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: the third receiver, tight end, you come out. That's what 482 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: it is. Now the defensive coordinator is looking on the sideline. 483 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: He's like, okay, that's what they're coming in with. All right, now, 484 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I'm changing nickel nickel nickel, and they go in with 485 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: their substitutions. So they're matching personnels to put them in 486 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: the best situation possible to be able to handle whatever 487 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: it is going to be presented on that play. Coach Zimra, 488 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: as you'll get into doesn't necessarily always do that. Okay, 489 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: they'll they'll come out with three receivers and most of 490 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: the time if they go to four, he'll change. But 491 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: if they go to three receivers, most defensive coordinators would 492 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: go to Nickel. Yes, some defensive coordinators like, you know what, No, 493 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: my system is my system. We're staying base, meaning that 494 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one of my three linebackers now and 495 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: just walk him out and have him just try to 496 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: disrupt what your what you're what your slot receiver is 497 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: now doing. 498 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 7: Akaa Baltimore. 499 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So that is it in its most simplistic form. 500 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: Some coaches, most coaches match personnel groupings based upon what's 501 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: coming in. Some coaches don't because they're just that confident 502 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: in their scheme. They are. 503 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 11: And the thing is is that we're talking two sides 504 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 11: of the coin between week one and week two. As 505 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 11: far as how Zimmer called this game, each one of 506 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 11: those games got some trends here. I was doing some 507 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 11: some of my homework because yeah, science so versus the Browns, 508 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 11: the Cowboys ran so like like I said, I said, 509 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 11: so Nickel could be four three three four depending on 510 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 11: what the base is supposed to be. Three man, three 511 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 11: down man front, four down man front. Whatever the case, however, 512 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 11: nickel could be seen as a subpackage unless it's run 513 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 11: the majority of the time. The Cowboys ran Nickel against 514 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 11: the Browns eighty nine percent of the time. 515 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, eight, That made nickel their base in that game. 516 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 11: They ran their base in that game only eleven percent 517 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 11: and zero of the Snaps had a four down man front. 518 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 9: No, four to three. 519 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 11: Okay, So these so the base was most pure. 520 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: If you look at what they want to do as 521 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: a defense, it's probably classified as multiple. 522 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 523 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 11: I mean that's because that's there's gonna be some some mundy, 524 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 11: some money boarders as far as four to three? 525 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Correct? Whoever has down like that? 526 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 7: And was that a Bill Belichick sort of. 527 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 13: Ideal back whenever the Patriots were going seventeen and zher like. 528 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 13: I think I feel like he was dates back even 529 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 13: further than that, further than that, Okay. 530 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: I might be mistaken. I'm based off of where I 531 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: was looking at you because you played for Belichick. Yeah, 532 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: I think that comes from that parcel except from the parcels. 533 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, got it, there you go, now, so keep that 534 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: in mind. 535 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 11: So they ran nickel eighty nine percent against the Browns, 536 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 11: based only eleven percent against the Browns. 537 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 9: And this quite literally flips. 538 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. 539 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 9: These numbers are real. First's the Saints. 540 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 11: They ran nickel eleven percent of the time and they 541 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 11: ran base eighty nine percent. 542 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: Of the time. So that like an actual complete flip. 543 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, and they got cooked for it. 544 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: They got cooked. And just remind the people, let's go 545 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: back a year, right, this this defense, a personnel grouping 546 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: was founded on the basis of a nickel defense. So 547 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: this personnel that you have is nickel. And we have 548 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: this conversation when we were looking at defensive coordinators, I said, 549 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: you don't currently have the personnel to run the defense 550 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: that Mike Zimmer likes to run, both up front and 551 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: in the second. Right, So now we start talking about 552 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: the game that so far right, the work that we 553 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: have to look at, the game in which you were 554 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: the most impactful defensively. You ran the personnel groupings that 555 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: from the roster from last year. Now when you try 556 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: to say, okay, now I'm gonna do my system, my 557 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: three linebackers, my four down guys, what happened? 558 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 9: They got cooked? But in number support that as well. 559 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 11: Thus far through the first two games, bass Package Split said, well, 560 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 11: in the base, they're allowing seven point two yards per 561 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 11: per play. Okay, in the nickel they're only allowing three 562 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 11: point seven yards per play. 563 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 9: This is a nickel personnel, yep. 564 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: So because most people are gonna look at that and say, well, 565 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: you're bigger in base. Yes, you are bigger in base, 566 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: but if your personnel is smaller in stature, you might 567 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: as well be faster. Yeah, if we're gonna be if 568 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna be smaller, we might as well be faster. Right, 569 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: And that was the DQA, right, I mean, you were 570 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: gonna use our lessis were we're smaller. Marky's bells faster 571 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: than you're than your guard. So he's gonna run around 572 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: your guys. Yeah right, Like that's what that's what he 573 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: did right now. Sometimes if they get up on us, 574 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: we're screwed, right, But if the offensive linemen get up 575 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: on your smaller linebackers, you're screwed too. Yeah, right, So 576 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: you might as well have the ability to dip, dive, dodge, 577 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: dip and dive, so versus taking head off. 578 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 11: And also what's interesting about Mike Zimmers. He doesn't like 579 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 11: to swing too far to the other side and take 580 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 11: additional linebackers off of the field unnecessarily, well, unnecessarily subjective, 581 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 11: but in his eyes, unnecessarily. He hasn't run a single 582 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 11: rep of dime coverage through two games, not a single one. 583 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 9: Wow, and dime being one linebacker. Zimmer is not feeling that. 584 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Regardless of how athletic that linebacker may not happening, it's 585 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: not happening with Mike Zimmer, so dime. So if Dime's 586 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: not happening, you can count quarters out and quarters being 587 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: the maximum amount of defensive backs that you can have 588 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: at the expense of your linebackers. So, I mean, it 589 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: seems like this is trending toward that. 590 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 11: And this what's going to be interesting for Mike Zimmer 591 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 11: because I look back at his years in Cincinnati as 592 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 11: defensive coordinator. I looked at the twenty seventeen season with 593 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 11: the Minnesota Vikings, which is when they went deep into 594 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 11: the playoffs, and he ran a good bit of bass. 595 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 11: So now comes the situation where how is he going 596 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 11: to adapt to a nickel personnel, But he's trying to 597 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 11: run his system over four to three A lot of 598 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 11: time to figure it out, obviously with a seventeen game 599 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 11: season plus hopefully the playoffs, but as sooner the better, 600 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 11: and as we enter Week three against the Ravens, you 601 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 11: don't know which version of Mike Zimmer is going to 602 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 11: show up. As far as is he going to run 603 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 11: full nickel? Is he going to run full base? I 604 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 11: would advise just going back to full nickel, especially against 605 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 11: a mobile quarterback in Lamar. It worked against de Sean 606 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 11: put it back in. 607 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: That was gonna be my question, what would you do? 608 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: Would you play nickel dime? I think at this point 609 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: is out of the question. Which is interesting because if 610 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 2: you look back to dan Quinn last year, Dallas ran 611 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: sixty percent of their snaps out of dime, which means 612 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: of course extra DB's less linebackers. 613 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: A lot of that was the average around the league. 614 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 9: There was no one above twenty five percent at dime, 615 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 9: and the. 616 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 11: Average even lower, no one about twenty one was above 617 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 11: twenty five percent. 618 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: Part of that was because had sixty didn't have the linebackers, 619 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 2: you had them pretty much. 620 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 7: What percentage was nickel last week? 621 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Last week Nichol was eighty No No eleven percent. 622 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 13: Last week eleven percent. And that's why you saw the 623 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 13: dip in uh snaps for tomorrow. 624 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 9: That is where the Marveo overshown comes into play. Bass 625 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 9: versus sub. 626 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 11: He's not been getting a lot of burning base if any, 627 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 11: but he's getting a ton of it and like Nicholas 628 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 11: sub packages right, So goes back. 629 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: To my point. 630 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 11: You want a spy, you want to use him as 631 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 11: a spy, then you have to keep him on the field. 632 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 11: And if he's not in your base, then it's going 633 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 11: to be a lot of sub in order to keep 634 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 11: him on the field. 635 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 7: And the direct quote was not necessarily spy, but something like. 636 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 11: It from him, something like that, something like something like it. 637 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 11: And then Mike Zimmer said, yeah, it could be over. 638 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: Shown or it could be Michael Parsons because that guy's 639 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: pretty fast in the athletics. 640 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 11: So one of the two, the Cowboys will have an 641 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 11: eye on the March. They'll have an eye on that guy. 642 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 643 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: So you would go Nickel Nickel on why why no 644 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: demo and bass? Why not? 645 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 11: Their explanation And I explain this on Twitter based on 646 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 11: what I was told by Mike McCarthy. 647 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 9: Don't shoot the messenger because. 648 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: This is relaying, this is not me agreeing. 649 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 11: But their explanation is because he's coming off with a 650 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 11: torn a cl he missed the back end of the 651 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 11: preseason and training camp with the hamstring injury, so particularly 652 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 11: the latter took him off of the field wherein they 653 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 11: could put him in those base package reps. So instead 654 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 11: it was Mary's leofile getting the majority of the base 655 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 11: package reps. So for me, that should mean that as 656 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 11: more practices occur, you should see the marvel overshown in 657 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 11: more base packages as the season goes along. This week 658 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 11: is not the week for that because I don't want 659 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 11: to see a lot of base packages, right, I want 660 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 11: to see the nickels in the subs because you got 661 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 11: to keep Lamar Jackson contained. 662 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: So that's the explanation. 663 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 11: Do I agree, No, But solution from that should be 664 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 11: more practices, should be more base packages as the time 665 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 11: goes on. 666 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: What if what if Baltimore comes out and decides is 667 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: to come downhill? Do you want your bass or do 668 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: you want your nickel? Do you have the size for 669 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: the base? Doesn't matter exactly, That's what I'm saying. 670 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 11: No, seriously, that's point right. Let's say you Let's say 671 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 11: you want to commit to a four to three because 672 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 11: it's it's Dereck Henry. He's coming downhill. We just start 673 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 11: at the top of this episode with concerns that the 674 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 11: defensive tackle position, and we saw how out, so it 675 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 11: doesn't matter without at that point the scheme is defeated 676 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 11: by the personnel, by the size of or like thereof, 677 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 11: you know what I mean, So you might as well 678 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 11: go with your speed and focus more on containing Lamar 679 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 11: Jackson while tasking the guys up front to do. 680 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: You know what they just just for perspective, if the 681 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys nose tackle, right, if you had a nose 682 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: nose tackle, right's nose tackles are usually the terminology just 683 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: used for three four defense. But nose tackle or one technique, 684 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: however you want to call it, is three hundred pounds, right, yeah, 685 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Dallas on average on average, right, three hundred pounds, right. 686 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: Mazi's like two ninety probably, and then we got Osa 687 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: probably to eighty five to ninety, right, so we're around 688 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: the three hundred mark. Is not a one tack though, 689 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not, but I mean, but he's kind 690 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: of all you gets. You got car so Jordan, I mean, 691 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: you got Jordan Phillips. You got lynnfel Joseph right, those 692 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: guys about. 693 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 9: Three Carlos Wadi Watt might Carlos. 694 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Carlos three hundred. Haven't seen him the 695 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: So this is three or five. So think about so 696 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Dallas is Dallas's interior defensive lineman average is about three hundred, okay, yeah, 697 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: and they're starting is three hundred, maybe three or five. 698 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: At the beginning of camp, the Baltimore Ravens first point 699 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: of contact on the defensive line is three hundred and 700 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: fifty five pounds. 701 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 9: It's a lot of a lot of beef, a lot 702 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 9: of beef, and the. 703 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: Next man overs three hundred and forty pounds. I wonder 704 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: what that. So when you guys are thinking about and 705 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit yesterday, right when 706 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: you start talking about the ability to stop the run, 707 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: it starts with those interior guys, and it has less 708 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: to do with ability unless you are freaking Aaron Donald. 709 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 7: Yes, right, he is the except exception. 710 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: And Aaron Donald was to ninety right, but he was 711 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: a explosive and quick to ninety right, and that's the 712 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: only reason why he didn't get mood off the ball 713 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: and solid, solid built. Yeah, built four tough. So understand 714 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: the difference in the scheme in what you're trying to 715 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: do and what you're allowed to do based upon your personnel. 716 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with these guys' abilities. I'm 717 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: not taking a shot at that. I'm just saying that 718 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: in the game of football in the trenches, size matters. 719 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: Tyler Biades wasn't big enough. He wasn't big enough to 720 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: an initiate to run the ground game that you wanted. 721 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about talent. I said his size 722 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: dictated his ability. And the same thing goes for this 723 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: style of defense that he's trying to instill, and we're 724 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: going to find out a lot about it. We had 725 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: one shot of it in Cleveland, right, versus two out 726 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: of three guys a two out of five guys on 727 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: office line were backups, right, but they took care of business. 728 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Dallas did that I'm talking about, and then last week 729 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: we got disrespected right. New Orleans just moved us off 730 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: the ball. Right, So we have a sample size of good. 731 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: We have a sample sizes really bad. You're about to 732 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: find out at the core who you have on defense. 733 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: On a defensive front, regardless of personnel. How effective can 734 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: this defense be with this personnel. You're going to find 735 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: out really quick when those guys decided to put their 736 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: hand in the ground. 737 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 11: And also be careful with the four to three in 738 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 11: this in this coming off of the Saints game, because 739 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 11: if you look at the Saints game, go back and 740 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 11: look at some of the more explosive plays they were 741 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 11: in that base four to three yep, right, So that 742 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 11: fifty seven yard catch and run from Alvin Kamara, that 743 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 11: was a four to three. Okay, that's seventy yarder from 744 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 11: Rashid Shahid that was a four to three, right, So learn. 745 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: In a big part and I want people to understand 746 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: this if you go back and watch the film. Okay, 747 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: when we talk about base and we talk about nickel 748 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: and diamond, all these things. When you're in a base package, okay, 749 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: and you have three linebackers sitting behind those four defensive linemen. 750 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: Even if you have an eleven personnel, which is three receivers, 751 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 1: and you have a slot receiver, most of the time, 752 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: almost every time, you're never going to take your outside 753 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: linebacker and walk him all the way over the top 754 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: of your slot. He's literally usually going to be on 755 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: an inside shade, which means if I'm running the ball 756 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: to that side outside the pocket, right outside the tackle box, 757 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: you don't have leverage. As a defense. You don't as 758 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: a defensive defensive unit. You don't have any leverage. If 759 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: my right tackle or tight end on that side can 760 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: get and hook the defensive end. Your next man over 761 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: that has leverage is the linebacker or that linebackers out 762 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: leveraged by who by a receiver. And if you have 763 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: a receiving unit that's willing to get in there and 764 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: get dirty, now you're now walling that line linebacker in. Now, 765 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: the next man that can make a play is either 766 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: your corner who has a man that could block him 767 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: to which is an outside receiver, or if he takes 768 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: care of his job, your next man that could do 769 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: anything is your safety. And I saw it over and 770 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: over and over again last week by staying in base 771 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: that they were out leveraged and always were getting sealed, 772 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: getting sealed by the by the tackles, getting sealed by 773 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: the guards, receiling, and then as you walked all the 774 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: way outside to the defense outside the box, the linebacker 775 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: was getting blocked by the receivers. The next man was 776 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: getting blocked by receiver, and then the safety was coming 777 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: down and he was getting cracked on by a receiver. 778 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: Everybody was out leveraged. Go back and watch it. It 779 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: was a lot of crack. But what we call crackback 780 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: blocks always the receivers coming down and blocking you in 781 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: because you're already inside of me inside and said inside 782 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: my on alignment. 783 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 7: Just fundamentally defeated. 784 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: Just from an alignment bases alone, I come out as 785 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: as even if I'm running a bubble screen. If I'm 786 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: come out and and I see you as your linebacker 787 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: is the furthest man outside the tackle box, and I 788 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: see my receivers outside of him, another receiver out there, 789 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: and I see a cornerback. If everybody does their job, 790 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: we win. Ye, just off a leverage of moment. Anybody 791 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: who watched the game last night, watched the Jets game. 792 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers did it all night long. Aaron Rodgers did 793 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: it all night. There's plenty of times where he came 794 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: up there and was like, that's what y'all gonna do? Cool? 795 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: Here you go take the ball. Adam Lazaris scored on it. Yep, 796 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: you want to play eight ten yards off. Cool, here 797 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: you go, this is not even to play. But guess what, 798 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna get the ball, because right now, my guys 799 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: could beat my guy could beat your guy one on one, 800 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give him the ball immediately, and then 801 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: your guy has to make a perfect play. 802 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: And that's how they ended up winning twenty four to 803 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: three last exactly. And that's how the Cowboys could possibly 804 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: win this week. Possibly we're talk about against the Baltimore Ravens, 805 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 2: but will we actually pick them to win this week? 806 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: Our Pickham segment, give. 807 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 6: Us a call eight eight eight eight five five two 808 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 6: two nine seven. 809 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: First one on the phone line gets to be our 810 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: fan representative this week and try and follow up what 811 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 2: we've had from Mike and New York. 812 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 6: Nebby as well. 813 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: We've got plenty of representation that gets that color line 814 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: back down a little bit, sorry, buddy. 815 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 6: Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. 816 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 6: Our Picktum segment is next. 817 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: That's right there. 818 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 8: Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 819 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 8: Cheetah Savannah. 820 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 14: Todd believed the big cat repellent he bought online was reliable, 821 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 14: and now Todd is trying to be faster than this 822 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 14: cheetah that can run eighty miles per hour. 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It is time for our Pickham segment. 868 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: And it's time to update the Pickham standing. Let's update them. 869 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 6: Chris Beam is the one that is now handling all 870 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 6: of our. 871 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 1: Numbers, so that way you can't blame me for winning again. 872 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: Just so you know, I've won it twice and you've 873 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 1: blamed me again. And so he's the one that's running 874 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: the numbers. 875 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 6: Chris, I missed who was the leader in the clubhouse. 876 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: That would be. 877 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 6: Patrick No c Walker. 878 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: She has ten points, yeah, ten wins. What's the regy? 879 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: Four losses? Four losses? Yes, ten wins, four losses. Kyle 880 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: is nine and five. 881 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 6: Okay, Josh is nine and five, the fans are nine 882 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 6: and five. 883 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: There you go, and stand back is nine and three. 884 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: How many losses do I have? 885 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 6: You've got three loss three losses? 886 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, who has the least amount of losses? Who 887 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,479 Speaker 1: who has the most wins? 888 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 6: But this is this is part of the news segment 889 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 6: that we're segment. 890 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: We've got to get your dog. You got to get 891 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: your dog. Right, they're building a system against me. 892 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 6: Of all people you should know about dogs. 893 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least amount of losses, Huskies, same amount of 894 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: that's all the same. 895 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: If you want to get your dog right this week, 896 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: then maybe we can talk about it a little bit. 897 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: We got this. Let's welcome in. 898 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's welcome in our fan representative this week. 899 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: It's Brian and Colorado. 900 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: What's going on? 901 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 17: Brian, Hey, good morning. 902 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 10: Up. 903 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 17: Funny, you guys are talking about dogs. I have a 904 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 17: mobile dog watching business, so I know more about dogs 905 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 17: than anybody. 906 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: Well, let you start it out. 907 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 2: Then here's our possible dogs and the way that we 908 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: do this if you get it right, it's twos wins 909 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 2: two year total as the year goes on, and it's 910 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: all teams that are underdogged by at least a touchdown 911 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 2: six points or more. 912 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 16: So. 913 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: Possible dogs this week the Broncos, the Giants, the Panthers, Dolphins, Rams, Jaguars, Commanders. 914 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: Those are the teams. I'll run through it one more time. 915 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: Broncos, Giants, Panthers, Dolphins, Rams, Jags and then the Commanders. 916 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 2: Brian will let you start it off. Since you know 917 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: of all about these dogs, who or is your dog 918 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: going into the week. 919 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 17: Oh yeah, Well I was thinking Commanders at first, because 920 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 17: I don't think the Bengals should be favored seven and 921 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 17: a half over anybody. But I think I gotta go 922 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 17: with the Rams here. Both teams are beat up and 923 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 17: I think it'll be a field goal game. 924 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: So give me the Rams, all righty, what do you think, Isaiah? 925 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know who they're playing is, so I 926 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: come back around to oh yeah, okay, so I can 927 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: go back through that. I need to start just putting 928 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: the matchups together, all right. 929 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 2: It is the Broncos playing the Buccaneers, the Giants and Browns, 930 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 2: Panthers and Raiders, Dolphins and Seahawks, forty nine Ers and Rams, 931 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: Commanders and Bengals. 932 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: So those are the those are the teams. 933 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 6: I'll go ahead and pick one. I think this is 934 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 6: going to be an interesting one. 935 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 2: The Raiders are coming off of a hot win last 936 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: week against the team that the Cowboys are playing this week, 937 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 2: in the Baltimore Ravens. They made a switch at quarterback. 938 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, the red Rifle is now the starter in Carolina. 939 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: Give me the Panthers as my dog this week. I 940 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: feel a little crazy doing it because their favorite. They're 941 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 2: underdogs by seven points. But give me Carolina with a 942 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: passion win over Las Vegas this week. 943 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: Definitely crazy. 944 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 13: I'm going with the Jags over the Bills this week 945 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 13: Monday Night football. I want to see Trevor Lawrence do 946 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 13: his thing. 947 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: All right? 948 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 11: You know what, This is going to be crazy, but 949 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 11: something just feels right about it. I'm going Rams over 950 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 11: forty nine Ers, even though the Rams have issues with 951 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 11: their top two receivers injury wise in their own in two. 952 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 11: They're in Los Angeles and McVeigh always gets his guys 953 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 11: ready for the forty nine ers. 954 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 7: You think forty nine's gonna drop two in a row? 955 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: I said it was crazy, all right, Isaiah, we need 956 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: you to hear Canners. Let's go Commanders, all right. 957 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: Texans at Vikings, big time matchup between two teams that 958 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 2: are undefeated. 959 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: Josh, we'll let you start. 960 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 6: Ooh Texans Texans. 961 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: Where they play at Minnesota. MM I'm taking Sam Donald, 962 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: gim me Houston, c J Stroud, baby got the Neil Hunter. 963 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 6: Brian. 964 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 17: As much as I'd like to see an upset in 965 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 17: this one, I think that Texans will win by a 966 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 17: field goal or so would this be. 967 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 6: An upset Eagles at the Saints. Would the Saints be 968 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 6: the team as the upsetter or maybe? 969 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think? I'm going Saints, 970 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: going Saints. I'm going New Orleans too. They impressed me 971 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: last week. 972 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 7: Saints for sure. 973 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 9: It's actually going to cook that second. 974 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 17: Brian, I agree, shegls going down. 975 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 6: Yes, go take that. 976 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: Philly Packers at Titans, the Malik Willis revenge game, going 977 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: back to Tennessee, the team that drafted him but never 978 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 2: played him, and they traded him to Green Bays all 979 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 2: of a sudden the starter because of the injury to 980 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: Jordan Love. 981 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 6: Brian, will let you start it off. 982 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 17: See to win both both of their first two games, 983 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 17: and they've let me down. So I'm gonna go third 984 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 17: times to charm here tantaseem. 985 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee at home, Isaiah, I like the Packers. I think 986 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Lov comes back this week. Well, Malik Willis is 987 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback here as he back. I think he's he's 988 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: there saying he might come back. 989 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 7: Trending back. 990 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to be the Malik Willis revenge game. Either way, 991 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: I think the Packers win nice. I'm going I hope 992 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: Tony Pollard has a really good game here. I'm going 993 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 2: with the Titans with or without Jordan. 994 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 11: With Jordan, love them taking the Packers, but without Joan, 995 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 11: love them taking the Packers because of the floor. 996 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: Ah Shanahan Tree, Yeah, someone hurts Chargers at Steelers, Chargers 997 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 2: at the Steelers. 998 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take mister. 999 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: Harpball me should Jim Harball on the road against the Steelers, 1000 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 2: who are two and oh right now, I'm taking Zeus, 1001 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 2: taking Zeus. 1002 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 7: I'm going with the Steelers. I'm going with Steelers on 1003 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 7: this one. I want to see, I want to see. 1004 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm taking charges on this one. 1005 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 6: Chargers, Brian, Steelers d is no. 1006 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 17: Joke, and I think they'll be able to shut down 1007 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 17: dobbyin So give me the Steelers at home. 1008 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wills against his job back this week. Chiefs at 1009 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons. This is a fun, sneaky one. I mean 1010 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and company or two and oh they're at home? 1011 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: Could you could you know? No, nobody Chiefs And I'm 1012 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna take Patty Patty Ice. You can't bet against them, Brian. 1013 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 17: I like, I like the Falcons there. They are riding 1014 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 17: high off off of Monday night, but I think they 1015 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 17: get it done. Chiefs just lost the chick out, so 1016 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 17: I think they'll have a down week. 1017 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: Give it good for you differ these picks a little bit, 1018 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 2: so we're all going Chiefs all right here? Here's the one. Yeah, 1019 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: except except for Brian. He'll get the chance to start 1020 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 2: us off. Ravens at Cowboys. Week three of the NFL 1021 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 2: season is here. It's only the seventh time these two 1022 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 2: teams have met. The Cowboys are one and five against 1023 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 2: Baltimore all time. Their last win, though, did come at 1024 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: AT and T Stadium back in twenty sixteen. 1025 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 6: Brian from Colorado, Who you got in this one? 1026 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: Oh? 1027 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 17: Eric Kendricks has a boutback game. McCarthy comes back to 1028 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 17: his census on the on the running rotation, running back rotation, 1029 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 17: and rain Dakota Prescott proved who the real MVP should 1030 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 17: have been last year thirteen twenty seven to twenty three. Cowboys. 1031 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: Here we go, Eh. I like that. 1032 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 6: That's a sprinkled in little drop right there. 1033 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: Well done, dat. You appreciate the call. 1034 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: As always, Here we go, Thanks for listening, Thanks for 1035 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 2: calling and being involved. Brian in Colorado with a great pick. 1036 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Isaiac go last? Yeah, who you got with. 1037 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: The wire shirt on? 1038 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 13: With the wire shirt on? This is Baltimore we're talking about, 1039 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,720 Speaker 13: but we are Omar. 1040 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and a man has to have a code. 1041 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 13: However, we know the fate of Omar and the wire. 1042 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 13: I'm going I hate this Baltimore thirty one Cowboys twenty 1043 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 13: seven monster, I hate it. 1044 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 11: Okay, So I had to score right last last week. 1045 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 11: Team slipped wrong team. But you know, going into the season, 1046 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 11: I had them defeating the Saints and losing to Baltimore. 1047 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 11: But now they flipped it on me because this team 1048 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 11: doesn't lose to in a row twelve and two, and 1049 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 11: we're also talking about two in a row in the 1050 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 11: regular season at home. I think Cowboys offense bounce back. 1051 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 11: I think the secondary with the Ravens are going to 1052 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 11: be absolutely overmatched. If the Cowboys don't try to establish 1053 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 11: the run, they can torch this secondary. Not predicting the 1054 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 11: forty predicting the forty burger. But give me thirty to 1055 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 11: ten Cowboys take to win. 1056 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: Oh wow? 1057 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 11: So like I said, thirty to twenty, I was like, 1058 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 11: oh man, wow, score win thirty to twenty Cowboys win, 1059 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 11: but ten I liked. 1060 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 2: The score that Brian and Colorado gave twenty seven to 1061 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: twenty three. I think that's about what this game is 1062 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 2: going to be because I think Dallas isn't going to 1063 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 2: be be gashed in this game, but they are going 1064 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 2: to struggle to slow down Lamar and Jackson when it 1065 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: matters most. I think it comes down to a late drive. 1066 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: Give me Baltimore to win it. Twenty seven twenty three. 1067 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 6: I just need to see more. 1068 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: I need to see more my question marks around this 1069 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 2: team going into the year where the defensive tackle position 1070 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 2: in the run game, and neither one of those I'm 1071 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 2: confident in going into Week. 1072 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: Three more than I was last week. Passed the ball. Now, 1073 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: this is North Texas, Baby Burt in the game tomorrow. 1074 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: So twenty seven to thirteen, No, twenty seven, Let's go 1075 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: twenty seven to sixteen, twenty seven sixteen the Cowboys. Most 1076 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys carry a six shooter, right the Cowboys? Of what 1077 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: he used? Three of the those bullets through the first 1078 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: eight quarters of the game. I mean, they only have 1079 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: three bullets left. And I don't know how if you guys, 1080 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know about about Ravens, 1081 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: but there's some pretty persistent birds, and there's some big 1082 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: freaking birds. They're like supersized crows. What do they sound like? 1083 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know that Ravens I'm doing that. 1084 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. There's a lot of ravens over there. 1085 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: They have they have a raven and Derrek, Henry have 1086 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: a raven and Lamar Jackson. They have a U a 1087 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: freaking za Flowers, and then they have a whole nother 1088 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: batchup them on defense. So I think that there's too 1089 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: many birds for the three left the three shots that 1090 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: are left in the six shoot of the of the 1091 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. So I got to go with the Baltimore 1092 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: Ravens on this one. 1093 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: M This might be the first time that we've had 1094 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 2: like three different people pick against the Cowboys in one occasion. 1095 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 6: We usually do pick Dallas. Dallas is a good football team. 1096 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: I just don't tell you. 1097 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 11: I think the Ravens game if they had one against 1098 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 11: the Saints like I thought they would if but they 1099 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 11: lost against the Saints in the fashion in which they did, 1100 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 11: and you got to come out kicking some ass. 1101 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Dallas has lost two games at home, Yeah, last two, 1102 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: the last two at home, which so three. But what's 1103 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: the braven, what's the greater probability Dallas losing three games 1104 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: at home starting. 1105 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 11: Three, because you could argue that both are extremely unlikely, 1106 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 11: because both are extremely unlikely. 1107 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: But one of them's gotta give. Cowboys take it. 1108 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 6: That does it for us. 1109 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 2: This week, you're talking cowboys. Hope you have some fun 1110 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 2: with us throughout. We'll be back on Monday, Monday, Winter 1111 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 2: lose to break it all down. I don't need a 1112 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 2: second mic. Come Monday, we'll break it all down. It'll 1113 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 2: be a victory Monday, and we're gonna have these Uh, 1114 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna have these great, great shirts to take a 1115 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: look of court to you three. 1116 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 7: I hope I'm wrong. 1117 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: I hope I am too. 1118 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 6: That doesn't for us. 1119 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 2: For Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah's stand back, Chris 1120 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 2: Beam in the hand of God in the back. 1121 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle. I gonna say so on go Cowboys, We'll 1122 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: see you on Monday. 1123 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1124 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 2: and the Dallas Cowboy is put forth for dire