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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this edition of Big Fish Small

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Speaker 1: Pod for Thursday, July thirteenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: And if you use the small Pod, he would like

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Speaker 2: to give you.

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Speaker 1: All the information about the Marlins for that particular day,

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Speaker 1: all season long and ten minutes for less. And on

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Speaker 1: this special episode of big Fish Small Pod, we are

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Speaker 1: recapping the twenty twenty three Marlon's draft class.

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Speaker 2: And who else would I bring on?

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Speaker 1: He impressed us so much on the stream that we

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Speaker 1: had to bring him on the small Pod. He's the

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Speaker 1: hot sensation right now in Marlin's Twitter. Jackson otherwise, Noah's jab.

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Speaker 1: It's great having you on for this pod.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, thank you for having me. You got me

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Speaker 3: blushing with that intro. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: No, no, of course, of course.

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Speaker 1: So with this draft class, looking at it and everything

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Speaker 1: remy picture heavy starting off with Nobel Meyer and Thomas White,

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Speaker 1: two prep arms, just how would you overall look at

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Speaker 1: this draft class as a whole after it, after all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I would say, you know, exactly like what

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Speaker 3: you said. It seems like the clear plan here was pitching,

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Speaker 3: which we didn't really think was going to be the case.

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Speaker 3: But I mean at the end of the day, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of the pitchers that they chose because,

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Speaker 3: you know, like we said, you got Meyer and Thomas White,

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Speaker 3: two prep arms, and then at that two of the

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Speaker 3: highest rated prep arms in the class. Two guys that

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Speaker 3: are super projectable, big time fastballs, ability for spin, and

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Speaker 3: then the ability to add that change up. So I

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Speaker 3: think I like the way that they went with pitching,

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Speaker 3: and I like the pictures that they chose, and then

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Speaker 3: the position guys that they chose after that, I think

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Speaker 3: we're great fits.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and with those, how would you look at

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Speaker 1: maybe day one as a whole, Well, we'll go day one,

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Speaker 1: Day two, in day three, but with day one going

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Speaker 1: with Meyer, Thomas Wide and then finishing up with kep

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Speaker 1: Alderman and from all miss post three picks, was there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say kemp Alderman there. You know, there

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Speaker 3: was still you know a lot of kind of like

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Speaker 3: the Marlins just want to go you know what scene

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Speaker 3: with the theme of the day, which is power, you know,

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Speaker 3: two guys with power fastballs and then you pair it

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Speaker 3: forty seventh pick of the twenty twenty three MLB Draft,

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Speaker 3: the Miami Marlins select Kemp Alderman, an outfielder from the

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Speaker 3: University of Mississippi. You know, I said it on the

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Speaker 3: draft live stream. With Alderman, I think he's got eighty

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Speaker 3: five grade raw power and exit v Low. I say,

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Speaker 3: eighty five grade exit vilo my bad, But I mean

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Speaker 3: you're seeing consistent exit Vlow's one ten plus some going

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Speaker 3: he's not your typical heavy hitter like that in the

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Speaker 3: So I mean with Alderman, you just get an all

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and with Alderman, we were just talking to

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Speaker 1: catch it, which he played at all miss How do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say probably right field. You know, I

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Speaker 3: been a catcher whole life. And I think Alderman would

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Speaker 3: he's got the super strong arm to play out there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and now transition a little bit to day

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Speaker 1: two with those picks there, how did you see the Marlins?

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Speaker 2: Look? Look at day two.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of your draft grades and one

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Speaker 1: First with Brandenburg, gave him an A plus six seven

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Speaker 3: He just doesn't have the power that Kurtz has, but

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Speaker 3: I mean they're both the same. At first base, insane

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Speaker 3: and I think, you know, the ground ball rates a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and also defensively for him, it was there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's probably the ground ball rates

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Speaker 2: Then also look at another A plus, Nicko.

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Speaker 1: Maldonado had a bandy I think, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: from like a really great program, someone you know, with

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Speaker 1: position or MLB pedigree. But what are the Marlins getting

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Speaker 1: there with Maldonado and you giving him an A plus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Maldonado, you know, obviously tied with him

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Speaker 3: It's it's a proven track record at Vanderbilt. You know,

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Speaker 3: they played one of the hardest schedules every year, and

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Speaker 3: it's it's not like you saw with kind of Jake

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Speaker 3: It was every single year from Aldonado, he was in

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Speaker 3: just the track record of Vandy playing the best of

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Speaker 1: So and with him, do you I come out as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he could be. I don't know if a starter.

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Speaker 3: he'll be a great set up guy in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and with day two, you know we met,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned your your favorite pick there with Mumboda. Was

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Speaker 2: At the picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say Olsen out of I think Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: I mean the slider is good. I mean, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: I just feel like they kind of reached there with Olsen.

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Speaker 1: Because coming from that program which has just been skyrocking

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Speaker 1: Justin Storm?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what came onto the scene last year

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Speaker 3: You know, he had a bigger role this year. Like

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Speaker 3: and know where his pitches play best, and I think

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Speaker 3: it's just a good selection for them. He's a big

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and then going out finishing off with day three,

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Speaker 1: So it's I believe with DJ so that you mentioned

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Speaker 1: kind of the money resets. How did you see this

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Speaker 3: And then with Olmstadt out of USC, I didn't really

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Speaker 3: You know, they're all really athletic, they all have the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, going here, just looking at everything,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was definitely a weaker draft class.

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Speaker 3: You know, you had I think his name was Ralfie

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Speaker 1: So yeah, And with these two more questions for you,

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of them will sign. I think

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Speaker 3: concerned about signing with, just because you know, going to FIU,

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Speaker 3: Storm or I'm sorry, Shade from oregonal sign for Underslot.

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Speaker 3: I think Coolly if he chooses to sign, which I

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Speaker 3: to Dietrich. But he's probably the one that I'm I

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Speaker 2: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then the last one, I don't want to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the first one is. It all

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well Chad Jackson there, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: great having you on.

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Speaker 2: You killed it on the stream.

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Speaker 1: We had to bring you back on, and hey, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you taking your time talking about all twenty of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, thank you for having me