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Speaker 1: for Lee Klein and Lee I want to start here.

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Speaker 1: from the Clipper past a statue, if you're if you're

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00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: gonna get into the statue game, Ralph Lawler would have

427
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: to be there, and they what they should do, and

428
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: I say this with the greatest amount of respect, Uley,

429
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: is what they should do with the Ralph statue is

430
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: have him with his microphone and they can have like

431
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: a piece of paper with one of his end of

432
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: the year monologues on it where the future is bright

433
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: for the Clippers. Don't though there was such a with

434
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: such a Homer that the Clippers would win fifteen to

435
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: twenty games every single year. You win twenty games, you

436
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: lose sixty two. So that's how bad the Clippers work

437
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: for so many of these years at the Sports Arena,

438
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: and he would always, always, and we would laugh about

439
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: it at the end of the season, give his prediction

440
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: for next year to wrap up the final game of

441
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: the year. I like these Clippers. They have the number

442
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: one draft choice coming up in May or June or

443
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: whatever it would be, and they have the nucleus with

444
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: whether it with Bill Fitch or Geene Shoe, whoever the

445
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: coach was, and the future looks awfully right for this

446
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: young team. I like, what's coming next year? And get

447
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: your tickets now season tickets are available. Yeah. And then

448
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: it was always like they'll have a new or like

449
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: they'll have a new coach, they'll make some trades and

450
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: they have a draft pick. Things are looking up. You

451
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: know that that same raw it was great and he

452
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: had it down. He hit it down to a science.

453
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: Ralph had it down to a science. By the end

454
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: of that he is deserving of a microphone batterer or

455
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: of a statue. And and it won't be at Staples Center,

456
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: because as you mentioned, the Clippers will be moving to

457
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: a new arena whenever that's completed. That that arena will

458
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: be located right next to where the Rams new football

459
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: field is, and so it'll be a sports conglomerate sort

460
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: of like what what was years ago the racetrack in

461
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: the forum, next to each other at that time. But

462
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: in all honesty, you and I both love Ralph very much.

463
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: I know you do. He was always good and kind

464
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: to us, and he was always a homer, and he

465
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: was a prankster, and he's yet to pay off his debt.

466
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: And as long as we both all of us live,

467
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: and Ralph lives a long life, I will always remind

468
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: him of that. Yeah, And I remember the last when

469
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: they when he was retiring and they had that Gallas

470
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: ceremony and we went over and snap some photos and

471
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: all that we we brought. You brought that up. You

472
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: made sure to bring that up there. And and I

473
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: also remember that you were so bad. You're very One

474
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: of your skills that you're not good at is taking photos.

475
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: Remember I had to we had to redo the photo

476
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: because I had to take a photo of me and Ralph,

477
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: and then the angle was not the greatest angle there.

478
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: Have you worked on that? By the way, have you

479
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: worked on your camera camera skills? Have you know? If

480
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: you were here, I'd punch in the nose. You know,

481
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: people tell everybody how tall you are. I'm like five ten,

482
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: you know something like that. Come on, um, six five

483
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: six six? If I stand up with good a gust

484
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: or something like that, all imagine with your cell phone

485
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: taking a photo and you gotta stand close and he's

486
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: six ft five and the other person is five ft ten.

487
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: You gotta go back. You gotta keep on going back

488
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: to get him to get then in the entire photo

489
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: from his shoes to the top of his head. If

490
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: I went any further back, I'd be out of Staples Center.

491
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: So I had to take the best that I possibly could,

492
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: chopping off as little as I could to take this photo.

493
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: And this man is criticizing me for doing this. Please,

494
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: why don't you take a selfie? Moron? Do you just

495
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: have two faces? Wow? Does the defense rest nally? You

496
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: have no further questions your honor? Okay? All right? Do

497
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: you want to you want to call in any expert

498
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: witnesses or anything like that. Yeah, I don't need forensics.

499
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, very very good. Now, since there's

500
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: a theme here, we're doing the Clippers and one of

501
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: the all time iconic names of the Clippers. This is

502
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: before my time a little bit. I was just a

503
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: fan when he played Benoit Benjamin ben Wab Benjamin and

504
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: we we had no I I dealt with Benoit a little,

505
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: but he was still in the NBA when I started

506
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: in the media business, but he was not with the

507
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Clippers and anymore. But we we have some legendary uh

508
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: confrontations and run ins with Benoit. I think the first

509
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: time we had on the podcast you I think we

510
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: touched on I don't remember, but the the I'm almost

511
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: positive we did. But the interaction with you and Benoit,

512
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: he had hired Don King as his agent. He was

513
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: actually out of the NBA for a little bit and

514
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: in Europe. He played in Europe at that time. Yeah.

515
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: And the legendary story that one of the great Lead

516
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Klein stories of all time is when you asked Benoit

517
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Benjamin a question about life in Europe, but Benoit gave

518
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: you one of the great answers of all time. Um,

519
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: I noticed that he was there. I hadn't seen him

520
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: in years. Uh. And by the way, if you were

521
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: talking about Michael Olo and Candy as the number one

522
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: draft pick of um, if there was anybody on the

523
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Clippers as a center could make Bennoy Benjamin look like

524
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: an All Star Hall of Famer, it was Michael Old

525
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: or Candy, isn't it. Oh? Yeah, well yeah Old Candy

526
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: was a total stipp and he was the third pick

527
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: in the draft. Uh right, you know if you play

528
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: that game, that was the car. They could have had

529
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: Carl Malone or Joe Dumars, there's somebody like that, and

530
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: they picked Annoyit Benjamin, the pride of Creton. But so

531
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: you you asked. You asked Annoy It about where you

532
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: know he had been in Europe and all that, and

533
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: he gave me. I asked him, wait, wait, hold on.

534
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: The first thing I said was hello. He recognized me,

535
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: and he was with his wife. Now here's a guy

536
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: that's seven ft one or seven ft two, and his

537
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: wife was about five ft one and nice lady, okay,

538
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: and there's a little crowd around us, and he sees me.

539
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: I see him. I walked over. I shook his hand.

540
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: And where you've been, Bennoit? Uh? Europe. You've been playing

541
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: in Europe? Yeah? Where did you play? Uh? I was

542
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: playing in Europe? No? No know? Where were you playing

543
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: in Europe? All over? No? No, no, name some cities

544
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: that you played in. Okay, That's how it got this way.

545
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: And when I asked them to name some cities, this

546
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: is the reply. First off, the cities Germany, Spain, countries,

547
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: not even cities. Right, So I decided to abandon that

548
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: avenue of conversation immediately right. And then out of the

549
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: clear blue he looks at me and he says, do

550
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: you know any NBA team that's looking for a center? Okay?

551
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, huh what? And I immediately dashed over

552
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: to where you were and I begged you whoever you

553
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: were talking to come with me, come with me, and

554
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I slept you by the by the arm to run

555
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: over to Bennoit. And then I said to Bennoy Benoit,

556
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: this is Ben Mallor hello, Hello. Asked him the same

557
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: question you asked me, and he says, do you know

558
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: any NBA team center? So we became at that moment

559
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: his agent for looking for any team that needed not

560
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: just the center, but Bennoy Benjamin, who had been out

561
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: of the NBA for at least two or more years,

562
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: not a celebrity star, to say the least, looking at

563
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: us to get him a job. I was outstanding. We

564
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: became scouts. We were NBA scouts at that momently. We

565
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: were scouts. We were trying to figure out where to

566
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: put Benoit. And so when people say, hey, you know,

567
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I give advice, they ripped me. You're giving advice to

568
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: these NBA teams. I've had NBA players ask for advice

569
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: and you're a witness to it. I'm glad. I'm glad

570
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: you told me that. Sorry. The other Benoit story that

571
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention for the purposes of this podcast

572
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: was when he was briefly with the Vancouver Grizzlies. The

573
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: Clippers in those days were playing. They played a few

574
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: games at the Pond in Anaheim, which has a different

575
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: corporate name now but where the Mighty Ducks play, and

576
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: the Clippers were trying to get a fan base. They

577
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: were trying to cultivate a fan base in Orange County,

578
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: so that's not really the story. They played in Orange County.

579
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm an Orange County guy, so I always made sure

580
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: to go to those games, and I had to do

581
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: anyway for work, and so it had been a tradition.

582
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Bennoy played with the Clippers until like the early nineties,

583
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: like the beginning of the nineties, and every time he

584
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: came back, he played like another ten years off and on.

585
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: But every time he came back to the Sports Arena

586
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: or played the Clippers, the few Clipper loyal loyal fans

587
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: that they had would always boo Benoy. So tradition. And

588
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: so I was covering a game he was playing for

589
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the Vancouver Grizzlies at the time. I don't think he

590
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: played very long for the Vancouver Grizzlies. And remember, but

591
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: he played in Vancouver. They were playing the Clippers in Anaheim,

592
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: and it might have even been an exhibition game. I

593
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: don't recall. It was. No, this was a real game.

594
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: This was not the next Hibision game. This is a

595
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: regular scheduled game that went from the Sports Arena because

596
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: they would play about eight games a year, which is

597
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: now called the Honda Center as their home court. Because

598
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: Darnald Sterling was thinking maybe maybe we can move to

599
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: the pond and get out of the Sports Arena, so

600
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: that he was testing the waters and for two years

601
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: they played almost every team in the West one game

602
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: at at the what is now the Honda Center and

603
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: down in Anaheim. So that was the regular season game,

604
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: all right, So it's a regular season games. Fine, So

605
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: they're playing Vancouver, and I think Vancouver like Byron Scott

606
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: or something this it was a weird hodgepodge Vancouver team.

607
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Uh that that might have been the either the expansion

608
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: year or right after. But anyway, so Benoit's there and

609
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: we had the idea. You know, we knew Benoit was

610
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: gonna get boots, so I was trying to get some

611
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: sound of what Benoit thought about being booed before he

612
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: actually got booed. So we went in the locker room.

613
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: I was Dave l a San Diego radio legend, Dave

614
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: Palay who does his own podcast, and so we went

615
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: in to interview Benoit and asked him, you know, what's it.

616
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: I forget exactly what the question was. It was something like,

617
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, can you believe after all these years, the

618
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: fans are still you know, still booing you every time

619
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: you play the Clippers something along those lines. I didn't

620
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: phrase it exactly like that, but something along those lines.

621
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: And Benoit the two things I remember is He started

622
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: out fine, but he was chewing gum, and no one

623
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: choose gum quite like Benoit. Benjamin, right, I mean this

624
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: guy should he should teach him masterclass on how to

625
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: chew bubble gum. Uh, just very in your face, like

626
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: just the oh my. Anyway, so he was doing that

627
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: and he started out fine. You know, he gave some

628
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: as I remember the answer, we have the audio I

629
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: have been on a cassette tape somewhere. But Benoit started out, okay.

630
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: You know that he's had a career. You know he's

631
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: okay with that. You know, fans can do what they want.

632
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: And as he starts giving the answer, he starts working

633
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: himself into a lather, getting upset with people bulling him.

634
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: And then he remember the body language. He starts punching

635
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: his fist into his hand. He takes his right fist.

636
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can hear that. He starts

637
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: punching his hand, and then he gave one of the

638
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: great great speeches. At the end of that, he said,

639
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: I will take on anyone on any court in the

640
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: United States or Canada, and I'll kick their ass. Uh.

641
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: And I'm paraphrasing, obviously, but but he went on this

642
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: legendary rant and it was it was hilarious and I ran,

643
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: I remember running, I said, And I was big, fat guy,

644
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: couldn't run that fast. But I had to play the

645
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: tape for you. I had to play the audio for

646
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: you lead because it was an amazing clip. You are

647
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. He also he also mentioned in that because

648
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: you came running out just as you said, I was

649
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: standing near the locker room. He ran right over to

650
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: me like whoa, like overwhelmingly running right at me, and

651
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: then hear this. You gotta hear this, you know. And

652
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: you played the tape for me. And in that tape

653
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: when he was pounding his fist, I'll take on the fans.

654
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: He also mentioned, I'll take on the media. Yeah, that's right.

655
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, oh man. That as I was saying, hey,

656
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: I looked it up. That was the nineteen nine five

657
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: Vancouver Grizzlies. You want to take again. How many players

658
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: can you name in the nineteen Vancouver Grizzlies. Probably none,

659
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: I would say zero. It wasn't that long after that

660
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: they wound up moving to Memphis, right, Uh they had Well, yeah,

661
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: they're only in Vancouver for a couple years. They had

662
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: the great Blue Edwards, remember him from the Utah Jazz.

663
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: He was on the team. Greg Anthony, who was kid

664
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: Cole Anthony was just drafted by the Orlando Magic this week.

665
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: He was on that team. Derrick Martin, our buddy Derrick Martin,

666
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: who was played with the Clippers later on Big Country.

667
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Bryant Reeves. Uh, he was on my add the team

668
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: I haven't heard in twenty five years. He was a rookie.

669
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Byron Scott was on that team at the end of

670
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: his career. Gerald Wilkins. Remember he was a pretty good player,

671
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: Gerald Wilkins. He had a long career, Yes he did.

672
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: He was the brother of Dominique, right, I think direct. Yeah,

673
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: he had a good career. There you go, boy, This

674
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: podcast is reaching a new lowly We're doing We're doing

675
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: Vancouver Grizzly. All right, well, all right, so let's let

676
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: me switch this up. Maybe you do not remember this

677
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: because I've never talked to you about this. You and

678
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: I have seen hundreds upon hundreds of games together at

679
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium, the Angel games, Laker games, Clipper games. It

680
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: surpasses well into the hundreds together. Yeah, therewith Also, if

681
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: you remember during that great run of USC between two

682
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: thousand two and two thousand nine. We used to go

683
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: to the USC games on a Saturday, you remember, yes,

684
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: every Saturday for years when they were bad, when I

685
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: started going, and then we were fortunate enough to go

686
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: during the glory days of Pete Carroll and how when

687
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: they were wonderful and they were like an NFL team

688
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Well, there's two stories in particular.

689
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: One of them you may not remember, the other one

690
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: you will. The first one is, in order to get

691
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: uh a press pass, you had to call the athletic

692
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: office in order for them to send it to you, remember, yes,

693
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: and you would get and you would get it usually

694
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: in the mail or something of that nature. They sent

695
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: it to the radio station and you somehow wangled that.

696
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: You always got a parking pass along with your press

697
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: pass to get into the game. I was at that time.

698
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: I never got a I got a press pass, but

699
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: I never got the car pass. So there were games

700
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: where we were actually together in the same car going

701
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: to the coliseum. In one particular killer instance, for some reason,

702
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: I did not get my media pass to get into

703
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: the game. But that didn't stop me because I was

704
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: told that they had either forgotten but it's okay to

705
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: come or whatever. So I do not have a pass,

706
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: but then has a pass and a parking pass. So

707
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: we parked our car, and at that time they had

708
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: the beginning of that underground parking where they first opened up.

709
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: So we parked the car. We walked all the way around,

710
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: halfway around the Coliseu and to go where the press

711
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: entrance is. And you were the only one who had

712
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: a big red pass at this big thing. And I

713
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: was at that time smoking cigarettes, so I had an

714
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: empty Marlborough box, not the pack, but a box. And

715
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: I said to you, because you had to take the

716
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: elevator all the way to the top, and we're standing

717
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: by the elevator and you can't get into the elevator

718
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: without a pass. So Ben could go in and I couldn't.

719
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: So I said to Ben, when you get up stairs,

720
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: walk over to the edge above and put your pass

721
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: into the Marlboro box and throw it all the way

722
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: down to me. I'll go in. Now. The press box

723
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: at the Colisseum is at the very very top of

724
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: the Colisseum, so when you walk out the side door

725
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: of the press box, you are above every fan in

726
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: the colisseum. There is no place to stand higher than

727
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: where you are. There's nobody that is above you, and

728
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: there is a cement wall at the tippy top of

729
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: the Colisseum. I'm way down there, you know, twenty yards

730
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: away at least thirty yards away down below. And then

731
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: did what he did. He folded in half, stuffed it

732
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: into the Marlborough box and tossed the Marlborough box down

733
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: and it landed between on the ground. It landed between

734
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: the colisseum cement down at the bottom and a row

735
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: of hedges. I had to go through hedges that had

736
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: no cut through to bend over and pick it up,

737
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: and I finally went in and then held up. Other

738
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: than watching the game at that type with binoculars in

739
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: the press box, the main reason we both went was

740
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: what did they serve in those days? Oh yeah, yeah,

741
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Well I until you had just mentioned that story, I

742
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: wanna begin by saying I didn't even remember it, But

743
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: then you started talking about it, and I do remember.

744
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember also having to like pick

745
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: you up at some shady parking lot in the wrong

746
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: part of town to go. We'd leave your car and

747
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: then we drive in car pool into the colisseum and

748
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: uh and all that. But yeah, in those days, and

749
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: they don't do this anymore now they give you like

750
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: a turkey sandwich and an apple. But in the old days,

751
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: they had a chef like you'd see it a find

752
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: like a lowry steak place with one of those chef

753
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: hats on and a big carving life. And they had

754
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: one side. They had prime rib and they had turkey,

755
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: and it was amazing. It was just the most amazing

756
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: and the media would just go out like us just

757
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: to eat. The team wasn't that good. They had been

758
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: good before, but they were kind of going through a

759
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: lull and so, oh my god, that was amazing and

760
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I was that was my big eating days only. I

761
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: love that. That was It's great, wonderful and they and

762
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: they had better than Dodger Stadium Dodger dogs. They had

763
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: great hot dogs at half time too. Yeah, well, we

764
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: could do all different. We'll have to have you back

765
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: another time, Leader, just to talk about the food that

766
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: we consumed, the massive amount of foot But you never

767
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: gained weight. You're very You've always been pretty lean. And

768
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm the one that gained the weight eating all the food.

769
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: So you survived not being able to gain weight, which

770
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: what is your secret? Is it your genetics? I mean,

771
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: because you didn't really gain any weight despite eating the

772
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: same crap. I ate a little more than you, but

773
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: you still ate a lot of bad food those days.

774
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: I would say, I credit all right, now, last thing

775
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: here ly, and then we'll let you out of here.

776
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Will It will free you from the shackles of the podcast. No, no,

777
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: I got one, and then and then you'll go the

778
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: last one. Another instance, another instance. You know how crowded

779
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: it was in those days when they got good that

780
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: these games started thanks to ABC either at four thirty

781
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: five o'clock twelve thirty, that they arranged the times because

782
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: USC was number one in the nation, they would always

783
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: have them televised on ABC National Television and television controls

784
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: to start time, there's this afternoon game and the traffic

785
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: it's so horrible around the coliseum. It's downtown, just a

786
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: little south of downtown Los Angeles. It is horrendous, and

787
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: so you have to follow what the police are directing

788
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: traffic in the handful of streets in order for you

789
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: to find a parking spot. Do you remember the time

790
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: where the top and It wasn't a real cop. It

791
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: was just somebody that was hired to direct traffic. I

792
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: asked you to pull forward, but you couldn't pull any

793
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: forward because you were gridlock crossing over figure oh and

794
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: to go into the tunnel to the parking and couldn't move.

795
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: The lights have changed and you're in the middle blocking

796
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: gridlocking traffic going north south because you're facing east west

797
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the street. Remember that, I do,

798
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: And you remember what was said to me after that?

799
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: You remember what was said as I recall, as they

800
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: they asked me to block the intersection, and then, as

801
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I remember, didn't they get upset with me for blocking

802
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: the intersection? They were yelling at you. It was it

803
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: was a female and she was yelling at you because

804
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: you were driving and she was on your side, and

805
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: I yelled at her, how stupid she is. You're blocking traffic.

806
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: Why did you pull us forward? Because she was blaming

807
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: you for blocking traffic, although she's the one who puts

808
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: you there. I know. It was outstanding in competence. It

809
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: was outstanding and comf well. And you let me say

810
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: I got not only did you get me in trouble.

811
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: The late Alex Russo. My my guy, Alex double overtime Alex.

812
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: He got me in trouble too. I was driving him

813
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: to a game one time and the same thing happened.

814
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: We got stuck. They wouldn't let us enter where we

815
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: needed to enter. There was like one spot we could

816
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: enter into the parking lot. They wouldn't let us. It

817
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: was blocked off. So we kept driving in circles and uh.

818
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: And then finally Alex the like the fourth time we

819
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: drove around the block trying to get in where we

820
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: need to go. Uh. He He then rolled down the

821
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: window and started yelling at the traffic cop that and

822
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: then and I'm like, Alex, they have my license play

823
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: what are you doing you? I said the same thing

824
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: to you too, by the way, But anyway, my last

825
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: story here. And I told this story on the air

826
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: last week on the podcast. I ranted about it and

827
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: I you were there, you were part of this. It

828
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: was one of the great nights. It's it's in the

829
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: top five nights I've had dealing with somebody in sports.

830
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: We had dinner with Tommy Heinson, who just passed away recently.

831
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: The Great, the Great, the New Year's Eve. Yeah, it

832
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: was New Year's even and you were at the table

833
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: and and UH and Tommy just started regaling us with

834
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: these amazing stories that we had not heard before about

835
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: the early days in Boston. And it was an awesome

836
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: conversation and one of the all time greats. Tommy had

837
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: so much personality and he just kind of started casually.

838
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: And my favorite part of that. There were a couple

839
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: of parts. I mentioned it on the on the podcast

840
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: last week. Remember when he said that pat Riley ripped

841
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: off what the Celtics had done when he came to

842
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: the Lakers and was coaching the Lakers and all that.

843
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: I think that Tommy Hinson, for those that don't know

844
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: who he was, he did pass away about a week

845
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: or so an NBA Hall of Fame seven or eight

846
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: rings because he played with Bill Russell, and that incredibly

847
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: great when they won uh ten of eleven championships, ten

848
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: out of eleven years, ten championships. Uh a broadcaster back

849
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: in New England for the Celtics color man for years.

850
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: You and I both knew he hated the referees, didn't he?

851
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was legendary

852
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: his rants about the referees on he did he put

853
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Speaker 1: on TV. But who he was. I grew up knowing

854
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: who he was as a great basketball player. And there

855
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: we are on New Year's He's sitting down Ben and

856
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: I and maybe two other people and Tommy Heinson had

857
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: the chair. He was talking to us for almost an hour.

858
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Speaker 1: Remember what he said about Walter McCarty. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

859
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: I think it said it last week. But he he

860
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: was so excited because they actually the Celtics at that time,

861
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: we're pretty dull and they were a boring team, and

862
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Speaker 1: that Walter was actually one of the guys that I

863
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: think he said something I'm paraphrasing that he moved around

864
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: and the other guys just stood around, right, There's something

865
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: like that along those lines. And Walter had just been

866
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: uh put on the roster of the Clippers as a

867
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: bench player. Yeah, he was at the end of his

868
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: career and he wasn't it wasn't exactly playing much at all.

869
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that was anyway, Remember he told

870
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Speaker 1: the story. I feel exactly what he had said Tommy

871
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: about trying to get people in Boston and New England

872
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: to play basketball, and it was had some issues. They're

873
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: trying to get basketball to become a popular sport. This

874
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: is back in his early days with the the Celtics

875
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: and Red ar back and all that, But it was

876
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: it was a great night. Do you have anything to promotely?

877
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Do you have a book, do you have a podcast?

878
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: You have anything you would like to promote? Would you

879
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: like to promote where you're going to be having a lunch.

880
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle of writing

881
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: a book called this is not a book I am doing.

882
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: You know me personally, what's going on in my life

883
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: which I don't want to discuss, which is not negative,

884
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: awaiting the arrival and not and not necessarily of a child.

885
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: There's a great mit, It's a great mitch. Yes, if

886
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: I was awaiting the arrival of a child, I would

887
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: congratulate myself at my age being able to even do that.

888
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, I'm making the days under COVID go by

889
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. Um. I do know that there

890
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: are so many stories that you and I haven't even

891
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: discussed or remembered one by one. When you did the

892
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: remote from from the from from Sprint in Santa Monica,

893
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: that's one. I mean, I don't want to go on

894
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: with there's another podcast in the future that we can

895
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: discuss other things with. Uh. We we had on the Clippers,

896
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: but we haven't even touched the Dodgers. We haven't touched

897
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: about Matt Williams. Do I have to Yeah, Yeah, we

898
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: have another. We've had so many lock I've had with you,

899
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: locker room confrontations with old athletes. We could do, We'll do.

900
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: We'll have you on again. You'll be a rotating guestly,

901
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: so I'd like you to have not that we pay

902
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: you and that that you're gonna make get any money

903
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: out of this, but but we do thank you, and

904
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: you want to give out your email. I people want

905
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: to contact you. Leave some of the old time listeners

906
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: from back in the day who are finding this well.

907
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: I want to thank the people that listen to your podcast.

908
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: I know there's quite a few. I've listened to them myself.

909
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: And when I gave out my email address about two

910
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: months ago when we did our last one, I actually

911
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: got two people, two people that emailed me. So if

912
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: those that remember me from either from being doing my

913
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: regular sports show for three hours a night in Los

914
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: Angeles for a million years, or from the Clippers or

915
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: anything that nature You can get a hold of me

916
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: by just emailing me at clippers Man that's plural, clippers

917
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: man at yahoo dot com and I'll be more than

918
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: happy to answer you. So I appreciate you asked me

919
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: for that, and and and how's everything in your life going. Oh,

920
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm doing podcasting. I'm at the top of my life now.

921
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: Everything's good, everything's we'll catch up. Thank you, We appreciate it.

922
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: You stay well, stay healthy, and say hello to your

923
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: wife and family for me.