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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. Here's a technical lighthouse from.

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Speaker 2: The Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I

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Speaker 2: am Dan Hansis got a hero here, Greg Rosenthal. The

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Speaker 2: technical lighthouse is Mark referred to Greg Olsen Fox play

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Speaker 2: by play man.

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Speaker 1: That will be a conversation point. I am begging you

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Speaker 1: to shut up.

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Speaker 2: Later in today's show, Mark simmer down, because we will

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Speaker 2: have the great Andrew Marshawn late of the New York

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Speaker 2: Post now of the Athletic breaking down the NFL media landscape.

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be cool. Gregy, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. This is an exciting show. A lot

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Speaker 3: of guests. JB Long to talk, Aaron Donald. It is

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Speaker 3: a sneaky, frisky weekend by the NFL. The NFL said, Oh,

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Speaker 3: you thought Freed Andcy was done. We're gonna give you

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Speaker 3: a little frisky news items to find out while you're

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Speaker 3: like at your son's nerf gun party on Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Colleen relaxed, Yeah, it was. In general, this feels

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Speaker 2: like twenty twenty four was the year that the the week,

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Speaker 2: the free agency kickoff week. It just changed like annoyingly,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure this happens. It's a thing that happens

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Speaker 2: based on the calendar, the way the calendar shifts. But

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Speaker 2: I always used to love, especially when I lived in

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Speaker 2: New York, the March sixteenth, Saint Patrick's Day, March seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: living on the Upper West Side, and just like parking

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Speaker 2: at a bar and watching the first two days in

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Speaker 2: March madness. You used to love that. That was two

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Speaker 2: of the best days of the year. And now there

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Speaker 2: were no games. It was just selection Sunday on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and that was different, and I don't like change this

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Speaker 2: year for free agency.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it used to.

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Speaker 2: Be, you know, Sunday quiet, Monday, crazy, Tuesday, crazy, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: But this year it just felt like wall to wall

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Speaker 2: news maybe except for Wednesday, ironically, which was the start

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Speaker 2: a lot to digest.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to get into all of it. Everything's

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Speaker 1: moved faster.

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Speaker 3: As of Sunday night, I think there was only twenty

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Speaker 3: seven players left off the one on one, and that

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Speaker 3: was down to like fourteen to fifteen players, So team's

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Speaker 3: just moving faster and yeah to the Bearess credit. I

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Speaker 3: guess like not letting some of the stories in the

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Speaker 3: Chargers with Keenan Allen, we'll get to like linger that

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Speaker 3: could be lingering for a long time.

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Speaker 2: And if you're wondering why you haven't heard much from

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler yet, he is not with us today and

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Speaker 2: I in retrospect when his Instagram was on fire with

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two photos.

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Speaker 1: Whenever Camp Happiness.

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Speaker 2: Whenever Camp Happiness is at the forefront of the Mark socials.

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Speaker 2: In some ways, he's in nineteen ninety two and it's

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Speaker 2: hard to get back to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right, it's a jet lag

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Speaker 3: for thirty thirty two year journey back to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: But he'll be back on Wednesday and Thursday for a

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Speaker 2: But for our for our knowledge in the future, when

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Speaker 2: Camp Happiness is going off on the feed, we should

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Speaker 2: plan ahead.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I think that's just a good way to get

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Speaker 1: ahead of things. Fair. I want to go to Camp Happy.

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Speaker 1: Sounds nice. It's hard to leave though, once you go there.

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Speaker 3: I did go to Camp Wilder as a kid, which

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't like a stay over with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicoletown, there's no going to camps, So you go

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Speaker 1: See you when I get home from work, it's tough.

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Speaker 2: You know. I was playing these whiffle ball and taking

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Speaker 3: Like just can you carry this brick up the stairs

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Speaker 1: Just do it, Danny. They gave it a dollar fifty

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Speaker 2: You went up to you went up to that seven

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's rogue delinquent behavior. We would never think

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Speaker 1: I have regrets.

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Speaker 3: It's not too late to make a phone call. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and probably did, but it's probably not in business anymore.

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Speaker 2: Probably put him underground from the stress of his financial

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Speaker 2: failings as a result of your malfeasance. Let's get let's

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Speaker 2: focus on. Come on, Mark, let's get to Let's do

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Speaker 2: some news and shout.

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Speaker 4: Out to all the other sports podcasts out there. Making

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Speaker 4: a banger man around the NFL. Part of my take

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Speaker 4: is always good. And then the Dan Levtard Show. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Dan's always killing it, so he's been doing it for

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Speaker 4: a long long time.

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Speaker 1: A couple of notes there. It's the New Heights podcast.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Kelsey Brothers, winner of Best Overall Podcast

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Speaker 2: at the iHeart Podcast Awards. Shout out to David Singer,

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Speaker 2: our gifted talent booker here at NFL Media who put

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Speaker 2: that on my radar. And I little Mia Koppa from

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Speaker 2: Old Zeusser, who you know is a little, a little snarly,

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Speaker 2: the Kelsey Brothers acceptance speech the video pre recorded acceptance

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Speaker 2: lost in person. Well they won and delivered the pre

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Speaker 2: recorded speech. Now I feel bad because that was a

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Speaker 2: what the acceptance speeches. I think that was recorded separately

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Speaker 2: I think there's something to take out of that. I

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Speaker 3: We are getting to the age where there was a

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Speaker 3: Well, I just mean like we're going to talk Aaron

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Speaker 3: Donald later and his retirement, right, but we were there

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Speaker 3: talking about his draft day. Yes, So that means people

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Speaker 2: Let's get to it. Justin Fields on the move. By

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Speaker 2: the way I called this one. We had rotopad on,

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Speaker 2: we did our and we all throughout. Justin Fields trade options.

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Speaker 2: I said the Steelers, good Jeff, so bully for me.

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Speaker 2: Justin Field has gone to the Pittsburgh Steelers in exchange

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Speaker 2: that can elevate to a fourth round pick if Fields

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Speaker 2: A week previous, the Steelers traded for Russell Wilson. We're

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Speaker 2: He exits the picture. But what we're hearing, what's being

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Speaker 2: reported is that Mike Tomlin has told Russell Wilson that

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Speaker 1: It ends up being as low as potentially a Day

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Speaker 3: I believe in this very context, and that was what

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Speaker 3: it became clear no one was giving Justin Fields an

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Speaker 1: Is making out to be in this. No one was

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm a little you know, I think there could

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Speaker 3: five million, that's pretty reasonable, and he's our guy.

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Speaker 1: The next no one was looking at him that way.

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Speaker 3: going to give up a good pick for one year

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Speaker 3: And that's how we played, right. I was never excited

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Speaker 3: Of yes, they kind of take themselves into it. It

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Speaker 1: That was a three tiered battle.

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Speaker 3: You're doing twenty four million dollar contract. It's pretty good though.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the highest. Now we would actually have to

439
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Speaker 3: stay on the team that whole time to get the end.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's backloaded.

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Speaker 3: But the way he's kicked, he's been as consistent as

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Speaker 3: anyone in the league since he started. Other than like

443
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Speaker 3: Justin Ducker, he could actually get all that money.

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Speaker 2: He's a badass. He certainly is also Keenan Allen badass?

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Speaker 2: Did you know Allen? Last year? He was the one

446
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Speaker 2: consistent threat on that offense after Austin Eckler went into

447
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 2: a quick decline and Mike Williams blew out his acl

448
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen with Justin Herbert last season just kept chugging along.

449
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Speaker 2: He had one hundred and eight catches, then gets injured.

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Speaker 2: He missed the last almost quarter of the sea and

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Speaker 2: he finished with one hundred and eight catches for twelve

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Speaker 2: hundred yards, seven or eight touchdowns. So obviously a premier producer.

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Speaker 2: And now he's on the move because the Chargers, still

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Speaker 2: dealing with cap Hell, send Allen to the Bears. So

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Speaker 2: he is entering the final year of a four year

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Speaker 2: extension he signed with the Chargers before the start of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty seasons. Now, the thirty two year old

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Speaker 2: joins a Bears wide receiver group that GREGI is starting

459
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Speaker 2: to look pretty frisky, especially with Caleb Williams obviously on

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Speaker 2: his way in it seems.

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Speaker 3: And the number nine overall draft pick, which is their

462
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Speaker 3: own draft pick. And I don't think they're necessarily done.

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Speaker 3: This is such a good class at receiver. Some people

464
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Speaker 3: have mentioned them because they've they've still got extra picks.

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Speaker 1: They just picked up another one.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's in the future for fields, but could

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Speaker 3: they move up for one of these three wide receivers

468
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Speaker 3: at nine and really complete that group? Because Alan he

469
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Speaker 3: raises the floor. But he's thirty two years old on

470
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Speaker 3: the last year of his contract. Whether he's there long

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Speaker 3: term or not, we'll see, he said, you know in

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Speaker 3: the opening press conference. Look, I'm I'm very open to

473
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Speaker 3: signing long term here. I wouldn't have come here otherwise.

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Speaker 3: I loved what he said about not taking a pay cut.

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Speaker 3: I do want to circle back to what the Chargers

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Speaker 3: are doing after we talk Alt with because they got

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Speaker 3: Bosa and Mac to take a pay cup and he

478
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Speaker 3: was just like, that was the best year of my career.

479
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: I was the best player on the team. I'm not

480
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Speaker 3: taking a tay cut. And he is due twenty three

481
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Speaker 3: million dollars this year and the Bears are going to

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Speaker 3: pay it to him. So it's like it's almost like

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Speaker 3: he's he's getting a franchise tag plus from the Bears

484
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Speaker 3: and he deserves it right now. But I get why

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, in such cap straits were asking him to

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Speaker 3: take a pay cut, and I get why the Bears

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Speaker 3: are doing this. It's a fun It's a fun group

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Speaker 3: to me. Him and DJ Moore are a great tandem

489
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Speaker 3: because they have similar traits where it's just gonna be

490
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Speaker 3: very tough for defenses guys that get open. I do

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Speaker 3: think you kind of want what bigger, physical, maybe vertical

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Speaker 3: guy to fill out the group.

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Speaker 1: But it's a great tandem and that could happen with

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Speaker 1: that draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Let's see in the Chargers by the way, yeah sore.

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Speaker 3: More details came out on what they did with back

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Speaker 3: with Mac and Bosa. I just found it interesting. Those

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Speaker 3: guys took significant pay cuts, but they really set up

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Speaker 3: the new contracts that they were like our one year contracts.

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Speaker 1: It was really a win win.

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Speaker 3: I give them a lot of credit the player and

502
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Speaker 3: the team where they really reduced their cap hits. They're

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Speaker 3: gonna have some cap pain next year getting rid of them,

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Speaker 3: but they're almost certainly gone after this year, but not

505
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Speaker 3: nearly as much as it would have been this year,

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Speaker 3: so they get one more year out of them.

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Speaker 1: They convinced them to take pretty good pay cuts, and so.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't hey, we're gonna blow everything up right now,

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Speaker 3: let's let's try to keep you know, playing at a

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Speaker 3: high level. Alan didn't want to do it, but they

511
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Speaker 3: convinced those two guys to do it. And those two

512
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Speaker 3: guys are almost certainly gonna move on after this year,

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Speaker 3: but they get one more year of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I like the way they handled it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. But if Mike Williams doesn't

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Speaker 2: come back and he's visiting with the Panthers, the Jets,

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Speaker 2: I believe, the Eagles, so that move could.

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Speaker 3: Be Steelers Steelers, which is that would be a frisky

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Speaker 3: one if he went to the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Are the Steelers makes a lot of sense, But there's.

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Speaker 2: Also been talk that he might the Chargers. Now if

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Speaker 2: they've moved, Allen might be open to bringing him back

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Speaker 2: on a more cap friendly deal they do have. If

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Speaker 2: that doesn't happen, they got a lot of work to

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Speaker 2: do in terms of building an acceptable stable around justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it does feel like a two year plan

527
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Speaker 2: here for Harbaugh. All right, let's talk about the Jets,

528
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Speaker 2: who make a big signing this weekend. They sign left

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Speaker 2: tackle Tyron Smith, formerly of the Cowboys, to a one

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Speaker 2: year contract. It's a deal that's worth with incentives up

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Speaker 2: to twenty million, which is obviously big time money for

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Speaker 2: a left tackle, but he's got to hit a bunch

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Speaker 2: of incentives to get He's got to stay healthy, which

534
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Speaker 2: has been part of his story at thirty three years old. However,

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Speaker 2: GREGI for a guy that has consistently graded out Pro

536
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Speaker 2: Football Focus and elsewhere as one of the top blind

537
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Speaker 2: side protectors in the league, I feel like this was

538
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Speaker 2: a home run for the Jets to get him on

539
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Speaker 2: a one year deal, and you just hope and this

540
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Speaker 2: has not been something they've been connected to with health

541
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Speaker 2: on their offensive line. But if he stays healthy, this

542
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Speaker 2: is a big signing for the Jets, who have now

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Speaker 2: remade their offensive line ahead of the draft, which means

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Speaker 2: that opens up their options in that avenue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's huge for them, and I think the base

546
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Speaker 3: salary is only like six and a half million.

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Speaker 2: Which I was like, Wow, Tyrone Smiths only getting He

548
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Speaker 2: must have been super annoyed about his market to sign this.

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Speaker 3: Right, And the reporting is that the Jets were a

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Speaker 3: little surprised that he took the deal in the end

551
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Speaker 3: because he just stop me, we're going to be out

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Speaker 3: on him. And whether he was annoyed at the Cowboys

553
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: and just wanted to move on from them, or the

554
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Speaker 3: Jets were just a better opportunity. The Patriots were reportedly

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe in on this and Patriots don't really have

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Speaker 3: a path, a great path to being great this year,

557
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Speaker 3: and maybe the Jets structured it in a way where

558
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Speaker 3: like they were the only team that was like, well,

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Speaker 3: you can make twenty million if you actually play and

560
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Speaker 3: you ball out.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a game changing move for them.

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Speaker 3: It's a boomer Boss move, but this is the ultimate

563
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: boomer Bus season for them, so I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: Next Gen stats had him as the number one tackle

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Speaker 3: in the league last year when he was just in

566
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Speaker 3: one on one matchup, so it's just single, I'm blocking you.

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Speaker 3: He had the third most snaps of any tackle in

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Speaker 3: the league, so he's not getting help. It's like, I'm

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Speaker 3: just blocking you. No one's helping me. And according to them,

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Speaker 3: he gave up the fewest amount of pressures per snap

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Speaker 3: of any freaking tackle in the league, so he was

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Speaker 3: playing an elite level. I kind of think he is

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Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. He's not that old, but he

574
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Speaker 3: has had pretty serious back injuries. Look, their process hasn't

575
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Speaker 3: been great because Joe Douglas said he's the old line guy.

576
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Speaker 3: And they went into this offseason needing to fill three

577
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Speaker 3: offensive line starters. And like history tells you between Tyrone Smith,

578
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Speaker 3: John Simpson, and Morgan Moses, like one or two of

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Speaker 3: those probably won't work out.

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Speaker 1: That's what history would.

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Speaker 3: But on paper, they did about as well as they

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Speaker 3: possibly could have going into this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they And here's the thing, I was texting with

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Speaker 2: my Jet fan buddies and and I've been saying, I've

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00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm pessimistic about this year. Just seems there's too many

586
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: red flags flapping around this team with Aaron Rodgers, even though,

587
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Speaker 2: according to a report, now will not be chosen as

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Speaker 2: the VP candidate of RFK.

589
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Speaker 3: But which is funny because supposedly it was rfk's donors

590
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Speaker 3: believing that like he wasn't a good choice.

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Speaker 1: And it's also like when they chose a billionaire woman

592
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Speaker 1: instead who can pay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to get sidetracked, but also all the all

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Speaker 2: the we got it. We need to start to realize

595
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Speaker 2: with this Rogers stuff, like he loves it, like the

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00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: fact that it was never a real thing.

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Speaker 1: It was never gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but as long as we're all like our mouths

599
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: agape and we're talking about it, that's what he likes.

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00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: He likes people being either offended or annoyed with him

601
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: or just talking about him. And that is part of

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Speaker 2: the Rogers deal and it's frustrating, but like he got

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Speaker 2: what he wanted out of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man about a and Rodgers on TV

605
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: is a lie.

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Speaker 3: He just might want to be the vice president of

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Speaker 3: the United States. I wouldn't doubt that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in this moment in time, I honestly think

609
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Speaker 2: it was more about look at me, how I'm connected

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Speaker 2: to this powerful figure, you know, ostensibly powerful figure. I

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00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: think one thing at Rogers did not and maybe this

612
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: is something with Andrew Moore shan in a bit. One

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Speaker 2: thing that Aaran Rodgers did not take into account is

614
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: when you are saying weird stuff allegedly or crazy conspiracy

615
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: theory stuff as a football player, it might not get

616
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: picked up. But once you are all of a sudden

617
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: connected to a presidential candidate, people might care about alleged

618
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: comments about Sandy Hook and maybe he learned something, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he learns anything, honestly. But the

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00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Jets offensive line back to that I think will be good.

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Speaker 2: I was texting with my Jet fan buddies. It only

622
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: has to like once, just like one year, Like these

623
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: guys got to stay healthy and everything has to work.

624
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: Like every other team, it happens like once, like like once,

625
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: like look at look at their team with the Rogers

626
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: and the left tackle now there and Breece Hall and

627
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Wilson in that defense. Like we just need one year

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Speaker 2: where things kind of go right.

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Speaker 3: I have I can't remember just once a team on

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Speaker 3: like a now or else year more than the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four Jets, and those usually don't go well.

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Speaker 1: Let that be said general, not in I don't believe.

633
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking myself, Oh, just once, just once,

634
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: it has to work.

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Speaker 1: You're the most optimist Jets fan I know, and I

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Speaker 1: love you for that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we'll continue

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Speaker 2: the news, right, Welcome back, We welcome back. We have

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Speaker 2: more news to hit, so let's spin through it before

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Speaker 2: we welcome Andrew Marshaan.

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Speaker 3: When I hosted the show When You missed one, and

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Speaker 3: we came back with did you do it? Aside, I

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Speaker 3: didn't do it, and some of our listeners got on

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Speaker 3: me that they were saying that showed a lack of

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Speaker 3: confidence to not even give it a shot. But I

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Speaker 3: thought it was your ip. But now that I've heard

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Speaker 3: that note, I was like, Okay, I'll give it a shot.

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Speaker 1: Next time. I'll give it. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I think your first instinct was right that it'd be

650
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Speaker 2: cool to check with me. But I'm totally on board

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Speaker 2: with it being more a uh, it's of the podcast

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Speaker 2: as a whole, like no I P I also would

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Speaker 2: like to hear you try it, actually try it.

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Speaker 1: Here I hit it, and let's hear Greggi's version of

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Speaker 1: the all right, all right, welcome back, all right, I

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Speaker 1: need that we're working show. That's good.

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Speaker 2: It's good, all right, last one, and I'll do it

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Speaker 2: just so you can get it in your head for

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Speaker 2: the next shot.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it one more at the end of the shot.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's like a there's like a descending It's like a

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Speaker 2: staircase of anticipation.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the news. M mmmm.

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Speaker 2: Marque's Hollywood Brown got a job and it's the best.

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00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: I think it's the best possible job in sports, or

667
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: at least in the NFL right now, wide receiver of

668
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs a one year contract worth up

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00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: to eleven million, and this.

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00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: Was overdue, I thought, for kid, it's very you.

671
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: Know, again, we talked about all the time, teams make

672
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: a lot of mistakes and free agency handing out too

673
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: much money to try to upgrade, maybe just a little bit.

674
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: But still with the Chiefs after watching them for four months,

675
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: even during their Super Bowl run, and you're like, God,

676
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 2: stop wasting Patrick Mahomes brilliant with all these haminaggers. Do

677
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: I come out of the first week of free agency

678
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Speaker 2: feeling like incredibly bullish because Hollywood Brown is that guy. No,

679
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: not personally, but again, maybe he clicks with Mahomes and

680
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: becomes a true star, which he is. There have been

681
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: moments where he has displayed that, But the Ravens thought

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00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: enough to get rid of him, right, and so did

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Speaker 2: the second team he was with, the Cardinals. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's just kind of a bit of a math for me.

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00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Too many drops out of mark.

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Speaker 3: Brown does have a unique skill set and that he

687
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: gets opened deep down the field. And there's only so

688
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: many of those guys that do it. I mean, he's

689
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: an absolute upgrade from Marcus valdiscounting for less money. So

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Speaker 3: I think they did smart business based on the cap

691
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Speaker 3: space that they have. The base salaries only seven million.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen what the incentives were, but I saw

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Speaker 3: them referred to as relatively easy to reach, like a

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Speaker 3: four million dollar incentive. So if he goes and has

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Speaker 3: a nice season, but even then, one million, eleven one year,

696
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: eleven million is nothing for receivers in this market. So

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Speaker 3: comparing him to Calvin really, yes, I'd rather have Calvin Ridley,

698
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Speaker 3: of course, but for the money that they were at,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's that big of a gap between

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Speaker 3: those two guys. I think they're they're nice players, and

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Speaker 3: Kansas City still has to get someone in the draft,

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Speaker 3: and I think they will.

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Speaker 2: I'll throw this out there just in it also buttons

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00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: up the last topic. We didn't touch on it, but

705
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: everyone pegging the Jets at ten to take a tackle,

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Speaker 2: and now that they went and got Tyron Smith, they

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Speaker 2: can potentially go in another direction.

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Speaker 1: They could also trade down.

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Speaker 2: What you're hearing reports that Joe Douglas is looking to

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Speaker 2: trade down like I would love again as a football fan,

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Speaker 2: Chiefs come up and get a monster wide receiver prospect,

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Speaker 2: and let's see if you could build another Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 2: type connection with Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I guess what I'm saying is that they have.

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Speaker 2: A big move ahead of them still that hasn't occurred yet,

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Speaker 2: because then you got Rashid Rice, Hollywood Brown, Kelsey in

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Speaker 2: the latter stage of his career.

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Speaker 1: They see it.

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Speaker 2: To me, there's still that one piece missing. You get

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Speaker 2: that offense back where it needs or should be, and

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Speaker 2: we'll see if they get it done.

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Speaker 3: Brown is a good two slash three. Rice is going

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Speaker 3: to be I think a good two in the long run.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they need one to kind of push those

725
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: two guys down this class and you never know, but man,

726
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: these classes have been so.

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Speaker 1: Good at receiver lately.

728
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: Is so deep that you know, the Draftnicks, the Jeremias

729
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: would say they might not even need to move up

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Speaker 3: really to take a pretty exciting prospect there late in

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Speaker 3: the first gear.

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Speaker 1: You know my feeling on Jeremiah.

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00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: And his takes and how Jeremiah all right, The Bills

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: agreed to terms with the wide receiver Curtis Samuel, your

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Speaker 2: guy you like yourself from Curtis Samuel, formerly of the Commanders,

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Speaker 2: on a three year, twenty four million dollar contract. Again

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00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: a lot of funny money here, it's worth up to

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Speaker 2: thirty million.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I like this one. Greg, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: I think Curtis Samuel, in the right setup, can really

742
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Speaker 2: be a dangerous player.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: The right setup was with Josh Allen in Buffalo. I

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00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: like this one, no doubt. He's only twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 3: Somehow it feels like he's been in the league forever.

747
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: I don't know how that really computes. I guess he

748
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Speaker 3: turns twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: He must have been in the league when he was nineteen.

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00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: That's insane.

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00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: They will know how to use him. Joe Brady, though,

752
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: actually gets a little too cute sometimes. But I can

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00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: imagine a lot of getting too cute with Dalton k

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Speaker 3: James Cook.

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Speaker 1: And we'll see.

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Speaker 3: There hasn't been any buzz whatsoever about getting rid of

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Speaker 3: step On Diggs. I think that would be more on

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00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,479
Speaker 3: draft weekend, if that ever would happen. But the fact

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00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: that it's been so quiet and now you have Diggs,

760
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: Shakir Samuel. That's a versatile groups. It's not incredible, but

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Speaker 3: it's it's good enough to go.

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Speaker 1: Win all right.

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Speaker 2: In other news, the Los Angeles Rams doing more business.

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Speaker 2: They add a backup quarterback to their room, Jimmy Garoppolo. Uh,

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Speaker 2: he may have heard of Jimmy G. You may know

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Speaker 2: that guy. He now lands as a first time Well

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, Actually, shouldn't say that, because obviously

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00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: he was famously and trenches a backup early on, But

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Speaker 2: is this the first contract he has signed now where

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Speaker 2: he is the backup?

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Speaker 3: I mean, for a minute, he was the highest paid

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Speaker 3: quarterback in the league with San Francisco Predictions. Yeah, they

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Speaker 3: bet on him big and he had that early stretch

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Speaker 3: and then the Raiders and yeah, what a the decline

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00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: in terms of his like the types of contracts he

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00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: was getting from this year to last year.

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Speaker 2: So he lands now behind Matthew Stafford in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: A nice.

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Speaker 2: It feels like Jimmy G just hanging out in LA

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Speaker 2: like in Malibu.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it makes sense. It makes sense.

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00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: But it's a deal, a one year contract, which is

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00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: you know, very different from the three year, seventy three

784
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 2: million dollar deal. He signed last offseason and then played

785
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: only seven games and then the Raiders got the hell

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00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: out of that deal. So he lands there as they're backup.

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00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: They also make a sign signing and we're going to

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00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: get to the Rams defense, which is now going to

789
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: be very different because of one missing defensive lineman. But

790
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: they assigned safety Cameron Curl formerly of Washington, to a

791
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: two year contract. Former seventh round pick who did some

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Speaker 2: good things.

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Speaker 3: With Washington right quite highly ranked in my top one

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Speaker 3: to one and other top one, you know, hundreds in

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Speaker 3: terms of free agents, top fifty type player, one of

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00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 3: the better safeties that was available. Kind of calms down

797
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: a trouble spot, I believe for them. It's interesting that

798
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: they've now become the Rams, like the home for Way

799
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: were quarterbacks. You get Baker in twenty twenty two, Carson

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00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: Wentz quietly started a game or did he just come in,

801
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: but he played most of that Week eighteen game that

802
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: no one, no one watched. He was actually okay in

803
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: that game. He hasn't gotten a job yet. And now

804
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: you get Jimmy g. It's a there's something about Stafford

805
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 3: and Jimmy G.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's the it's again pretty pick privilege, right, that these

808
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: these wonder kinds, they they believe they could fix what

809
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: was wrong.

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00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: With the case.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like pretty McVeigh privilege that everyone wants to

812
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 3: go play for him at a discount when their career

813
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: is kind of at a talented player is at a

814
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: crossroads because McVeigh can make you go look good. So

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Speaker 3: it's a smart move by Jimmy G. For some reason,

816
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: Jimmy G feels like a guy. I'm not taking a

817
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: shot here, but like you know, you hear sometimes like,

818
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: well he maybe it wouldn't mind being a backup for

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00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: a little while.

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Speaker 1: He's had it, like it's a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: A lot of injuries, Yeah, but a lot say that

822
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: if he wasn't so like smoking hot, right, but if

823
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: he was busted up, dude, that's probably not your take here.

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00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: He was at the center of a power struggle, Colleen,

825
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: that that helped divide the greatest dynasty in the history

826
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Speaker 3: of the sport. After that, he was like the highest

827
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: paid play You say, his role in that was he

828
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: was at the center of him.

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Speaker 1: He had nothing to do with it. He just got

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Speaker 1: drafted by that.

831
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Speaker 3: But he was there and Robert Kraft had had one opinion.

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00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, I think would have moved forward with Jimmy

833
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: G's sooner.

834
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Speaker 1: And then it became this whole thing. Tie this to

835
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Speaker 1: your take, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I just mean that he's been through a lot. Then

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Speaker 3: he goes to San Francisco. It's massive injuries, huge ups,

838
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: two huge downs, letdowns in the playoffs, gets bench for

839
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: a seventh rounder in the end, it makes a huge

840
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: kind the Raiders things a face like, Hey, let's just

841
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: go as you said, hang out in Malabu. Maybe let's

842
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: chill a little bit for a nice organization. Let's take

843
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 3: a little research.

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00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: I guess maybe we're kind of in this. We're landing

845
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: in the silver place. But I don't get the vibe

846
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: that like he doesn't really want. I feel like you're

847
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: insinuating that, like he's he's.

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00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: Just said it's a good time. He also had surgery

849
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: on his foot. He's a lot of injury.

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00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: It's just been through a lot and has famously gone

851
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: on some big time dates in La Oh yeah, mister.

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00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: Chow crazy one. That's one of the craziest stories in

853
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: the last ten years.

854
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: No longer with us. Look it up. The restaurant in

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: the state.

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00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I think she's They die young sometimes,

857
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: like wrestlers.

858
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: Very similar. The Vikings make a big move in the draft.

859
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: They agree with the Texans on a trade that nets

860
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: Minnesota and an additional first round pick in the twenty

861
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: twenty four draft. Rap Sheet and pell Saro had this

862
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: on Friday. In the deal, the Vikings acquired the number

863
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: twenty three overall pick in the first round and number

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00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: two thirty two in the seventh. The Texans get the

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Speaker 2: number forty two pick in the second round, a number

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Speaker 2: eighty eight one eighty eight pick in the sixth round,

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Speaker 2: and an additional second round pick in twenty twenty five.

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00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: So the Texans and everybody loves team builders love second

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00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: round picks. Never forget that. They love it. They love

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00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: the financial flexibility they bring. They trust their internal process

871
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: to find a guy that's really a first rounder in

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00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: their mind in the second round. So the Texans like,

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Speaker 2: we'll move a little bit back, we'll get some extra

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Speaker 2: assets after day one. And now the Minnesota Vikings, and

875
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't love this, Greg, you know, I love my

876
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: storyline here about Darnold getting a chance, a true chance

877
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: to be a starter this year. But now that they

878
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: are armed with two first round picks, they have the

879
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: ammunition to move up to the top of the first round.

880
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Let's see if Minnesota does it.

881
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was Quessi who or maybe it

882
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: was Kevin O'Connell who even admitted, Look, we made this

883
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: deal with kind of an idea of what our ideal

884
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: path here is. We'll see if we can execute it

885
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: or whether to hop it or not. But either way,

886
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: we're happy to have this pick. It's very clear the

887
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: entire NFL knows they're making this pick to have a

888
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: chance to go take a quarterback, to go package that

889
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: eleventh and maybe twenty third pick, or or just be

890
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: in a position where they can take that quarterback.

891
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to move up.

892
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of speculation whether the Patriots

893
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: move out of three or not. A lot of people

894
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: believe they're gonna stay put and take a quarterback there,

895
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: and then it would be on Minnesota to trade up

896
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: and draft the fourth quarterback, who everyone presumes is JJ McCarthy. Intrigue,

897
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: but it's a lot of presumption. I don't know A

898
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: lot of times these like logic. I went back and

899
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: listen to one of our Like a lot of times,

900
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: no one knows what's gonna Like, no one knew they

901
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: were trading up for Trubisky, no one knew they were

902
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: taking it, you know, taking Blake Portos Like literally no

903
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: one said any.

904
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Of that stuff. So who knows.

905
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Minnesota has a different idea, maybe New England

906
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: has a different idea. But it's spicy because according to

907
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 3: the little pick chart, the Texans won this trade pretty significantly.

908
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it is a good deal of business for

909
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: them in what's believed to be the deepest draft in

910
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: a law long time. To just move down eighteen spots

911
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: and you get a whole second round pick for next year.

912
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: That's a nice job by the Texans.

913
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: I mean the Texan I mean, I'm pushing hard and

914
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: I know there's millions of listeners that want this as well.

915
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: For the Vikings to run it back his team around

916
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: the NFL man the Texans futures seemingly suddenly so bright.

917
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: Both in there you would point out maybe last year

918
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: was their chance.

919
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: But you know for the Texans where they're really like

920
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: a fresh new bi ale young option, new bile young option. Yeah,

921
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: well that ship sailed it.

922
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 3: Would be fun, though I'm in on it. It would

923
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: be still be fun. Eight o'clock to light.

924
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 2: Curse of atn Lton vander Ash retires after getting cut

925
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: by the Cowboys. Michael Gallup, Both Gallup, Gregie and Vandersh

926
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: guests on Around the NFL Live from Cowboys camp last summer.

927
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, vander Ash neck injuries. We'll always remember what a

928
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: player he was early in his career. One of Chris

929
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 3: Wesleyan's favorites. All the best to him because he would

930
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: have had a much different career if not for these

931
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: neck injuries.

932
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, And how about Gallups knee injury. He was really

933
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: on a great path and now he has to start

934
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: over somewhere else. Patriots signed Rogers Rover kJ Osborne and

935
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: the Browns hire Mike Rabel as a consultant, h and

936
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: sign another quarterback, Tyler Huntley. Devondre Campbell signs with the Niners.

937
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: Jordan Fuller, DJ Wannham and Dane Jackson end up with Carolina.

938
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: What a weird quarterback room for the Browns. They got

939
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks. Just makes you wonder I do

940
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: the Four Horsemen. Aj Dillon returns to the Packers.

941
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Interesting.

942
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon gets a big new contract with the Texans.

943
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: Titans cut free agent bust Andre Dillard. Steelers signed Van Jefferson.

944
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: I love that they are moving on quickly when the

945
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: Titans make a mistake and Andre Dillard and I love

946
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: that combo aj Dillon and.

947
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Josh Jake was a frisky, big old combo in the backfield.

948
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Cardinals signed Jonah Williams the thirty million, two year deal.

949
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Jake Elliott we mentioned gets a new deal. Seahawks signed

950
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: linebacker Jerome Baker and Nathan Peterman.

951
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Lands with the Saints. Saints doing let's take a break

952
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: and then welcome in our first guest.

953
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: Realistically need at least twenty five yards.

954
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 6: Love pressure up the middle, runs away, throws across.

955
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: His body and not his picks. Footy dunners have it.

956
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: Green Law still up. He needs to get down. Green

957
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: Law is still on us. He's gotta go down, Just

958
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: go down and goes to the number. San Francisco takes over.

959
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 7: Well, it's kind of fitting. Jordan Love told us this week.

960
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 7: He goes, listen, there's some throws I've made that I

961
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 7: know breage kind of the cardinal rules of quarterback and

962
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 7: the one at the top of the list is you

963
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 7: never throw the ball late back across the field.

964
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: There's the call from Kevin Burckhart and Greg Glson, who

965
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 2: you know, really quick rise in the industry in terms

966
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: of being seen as maybe the best or if not,

967
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: in the conversation in terms of broadcast teams, and yet

968
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: their time as at the top of the food chain

969
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: with Fox could be over with the arrival of Tom Brady.

970
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: And that's why it's time to talk to This is

971
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: our dude.

972
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: This is the guy that you want to go to

973
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 2: on all matters sports media, perhaps beyond. We haven't had

974
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: personal conversations about life and things of that nature yet,

975
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: but maybe down the road that occurs as well. Andrew Marshawn,

976
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: formerly of The New York Post, now with The Athletics,

977
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: senior writer covering sports media. Welcome back to Around the NFL.

978
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 8: Andrew, Yeah, thanks guys, thanks for having me.

979
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we just played that clip.

980
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: I think this is where we got to start, Greggie,

981
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: because I think everyone wants to know what's gonna happen,

982
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: Andrew at the with Tom Brady signs this massive deal

983
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: with Fox, it's been a we've talked about it.

984
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: On the show. There's been some doubts is he ever

985
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: actually gonna do it? I'm going to lose a sandwich

986
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: on it.

987
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a sandwich prop on this. I said,

988
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it.

989
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Look at the money and he's taking the year off

990
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: to prepare and all that.

991
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: And now here we are heading into that season.

992
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: What happens with Greg Olsen, who's obviously emerged as a

993
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: superstar in this field, who's under contract If I'm not mistaken.

994
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, Greg Olsen will move to the number two booth

995
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 9: with Joe Davis. The way his contract was structured. When

996
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 9: he's number one, he's making around ten million. At number two,

997
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 9: he'll make around three million. Brady comes in his salary.

998
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 9: I also reported thirty seven and a half million dollars

999
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 9: on season.

1000
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: Crazy.

1001
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's Liverpool, and so he he's been working hard,

1002
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 9: talking to a lot of people. Everyone I speak to

1003
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 9: every time I speak to, you know, at Joe Bunck

1004
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 9: or Mike Turko, Whoever's like, oh yeah, Brady fucked.

1005
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 8: So he's talking to everybody.

1006
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 9: He called Payton up and so he's trying to to

1007
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 9: figure out how.

1008
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: To do this.

1009
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 8: And we all know Tom Brady.

1010
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 9: So the expectation he's he is working hard, which I've

1011
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 9: already heard, and he's gonna work hard and try to

1012
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 9: be really good at this.

1013
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I guess I don't know why I'm surprised

1014
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: by this. I shouldn't be. He's got the time. He

1015
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: must love that. There's some doubt about like whether he's

1016
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: going to be good, But I just figured a year

1017
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: away from the game, is it normal for a guy

1018
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: to be preparing this? But I guess no one's ever

1019
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: had an opportunity like this, But no one's ever been

1020
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: paid like this either. I mean he is he has

1021
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: a bigger cap hit than almost any player in the NFL.

1022
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 3: I mean he is making more money to broadcast than

1023
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: every player in the NFL, minus like nine quarterbacks.

1024
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: And that's about it. Like he it is crazy to me.

1025
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: Was there any doubt, like through this process from the

1026
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: Fox side of things, that he would follow through with this?

1027
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: And like, what what does it entail that he's working

1028
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: on it? Is this just kind of like smoke to

1029
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: make people quiet down?

1030
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 9: If Fox has had no doubt that he's gonna do it,

1031
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 9: it's other voices that have thought that, you know, what

1032
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 9: this is a hedge, And let me just say one thing,

1033
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 9: and I think he's gonna do it.

1034
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 8: I want to be clear.

1035
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 9: On the podcast they used to do with John Oran,

1036
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 9: we had the Brady Meter where I did percentages of

1037
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 9: him doing it, and it was always above fifty percent,

1038
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 9: except for one episode where I went.

1039
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 8: To forty nine.

1040
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 9: I think when the Raider ownership came about, and that

1041
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 9: caused a lot of waves and Brady even ended up responding,

1042
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 9: I write a whatever anyways to you directly, Well, what

1043
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 9: happened is I don't like to go on these podcasts

1044
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 9: and blame and blame aggregators, but the aggregators got it.

1045
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 8: It was just an opinion. It was fun, It wasn't

1046
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 8: really a serious thing. And then.

1047
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 9: The aggregators got it and it was like I was

1048
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 9: reporting it, which I wasn't. Uh, And then Brady responded

1049
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 9: to an SI tweet and so any long story short

1050
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 9: that I had to write a column.

1051
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 8: It was just a pain. The whole thing. I wish

1052
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 8: I've never said it.

1053
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: I love that, you know.

1054
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 9: So the question, though, the thing I would say is

1055
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 9: that if he doesn't do it, he's not gonna He'll

1056
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 9: say no at the end right, like he's gonna go

1057
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 9: through the process and let's just say behind the scenes

1058
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 9: when he's practicing, he doesn't think he's good. He's gonna

1059
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 9: embarrass himself. I don't think that's gonna happen. I think

1060
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 9: he's gonna do it. Let's it say that's the case

1061
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 9: or something else comes up. I don't think. I wouldn't.

1062
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 9: I wouldn't start saving up for that sandwich who owe, whoever.

1063
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 8: You owe just yet.

1064
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 9: I would wait because I think, you know, if he

1065
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 9: if he does bow out, it's gonna be he's gonna

1066
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 9: it's gonna show his intentions that he's that he wants

1067
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 9: to do it.

1068
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 8: Until he does it.

1069
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 9: I still I'm more like the Brady meter now is

1070
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 9: in the high nineties, but still not a one hundred.

1071
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 9: Hasn't hit a hundred hill a hundred that day that

1072
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 9: he does it. But I think he'll be pretty good.

1073
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: Not to conflate to sectors and two things you've recently

1074
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: reported on, but you also did that deep diving again.

1075
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: Now he's at the athletic Oh yeah, Andrew, you know,

1076
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: he gets to really spread out and write a little

1077
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: deeper pieces. I feel like we're reading the nepotism p

1078
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: and it made me think. I was reading about you know,

1079
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: Jack Collinsworth and how they installed him on the Notre

1080
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: Dame Games and after a couple of years they're like, whoa,

1081
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't know about this. So they had to pivot

1082
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: of course, son of Chris Collinsworth with this situation, like

1083
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: in terms of risk for Fox, because let's say.

1084
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: Tom does it. Let's say Tom stinks, because it happens.

1085
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: We know what happens is that there's a long history

1086
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: of superstar legendary players. It's like we're talking about pretty

1087
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: pick privilege. It's like pretty legend privilege here, Like you

1088
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: go right to this number one spot.

1089
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: What if he stinks? Do they end up in a

1090
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Speaker 1: spot potentially.

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Speaker 2: Where Brady he's not doing well, either removes himself from

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Speaker 2: the equation or they have to make a move and

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Speaker 2: then Olsen's out the door. Because the way they handle it,

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Speaker 2: How big a risk are we talking here for Fox?

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Speaker 1: Could they lose everything?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 9: Number one TV contracts are not like NFL contracts, so

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Speaker 9: it would have to be Brady's decision is not gonna

1099
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Speaker 9: go eat you know, thirty seven and a half million

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Speaker 9: dollars a year for ten years work with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ten years old myself.

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Speaker 9: So Brady would have to feel like, you know what,

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Speaker 9: I don't want to do this. I think for them

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Speaker 9: for him not to be it, it's like it's all like.

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00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 9: And that's why when he signed the contract. That's why

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00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 9: why there's so many people saying it's a hedge, because

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00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 9: you know, he did it because they kept offering more

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00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 9: and more money. And then I got to a point

1109
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 9: where he said, you know what, let me try this.

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00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 9: And I'm not saying he's not into it now, but

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Speaker 9: this isn't some love of being a game analyst that

1112
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Speaker 9: he has. I mean, that's hard to believe. He did

1113
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 9: a story a couple of years ago with the Wall

1114
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 9: Street Journals Jason Gay where he was asked about the

1115
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 9: broadcast booth and basically said he had no interest and

1116
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 9: so the money got so high. So it's not gonna

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00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 9: be Fox pulling the plug. It would have to be

1118
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 9: Brady saying I don't want to do it. And so look,

1119
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 9: I think he'll be good. But if your doomsday scenario.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I listen.

1121
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 9: I always for the best stories that would be interesting.

1122
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 9: Let's put that'd be fascinating.

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Speaker 8: If he were not good but still wanted to.

1124
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Speaker 9: Do it, that would be an interesting story to see

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Speaker 9: how that played out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at it like through the podcast Lens too.

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00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: He's done a podcast with Jim Gray, the Let's Go Podcast,

1128
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: but it's like he's just sort of kind of doing it.

1129
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: You know, he's on vacation, he's not putting his all

1130
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: into it. It's like Jim Gray just asking him questions

1131
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: like they were on the radio or so. So it's

1132
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: like he's not trying to make the best podcast possible.

1133
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: He's just like tipping his toe into it. Every once

1134
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: in a while he says something interesting and that gets

1135
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 3: picked up or whatever. But it's not like an overly

1136
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: successful podcast, largely because he doesn't put that much into it,

1137
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: and so people will catch on if that happens at

1138
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: the NFL, you know, at the Fox level. But the

1139
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 3: thing that's crazy to me is the Greg Olsen part

1140
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: of it is that Tom Brady is now Drew Bledsoe.

1141
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: Our friend Tom Curran used to call Drew Bledsoe in

1142
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: his contract the hood Ornament, because they signed him to

1143
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: this huge hundred million dollar contract and said, look, we're

1144
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: a good organization. We have the highest paid quarterback in

1145
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: the league, and Drew Bledsoe immediately started declining. They call

1146
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: him the hood ornament, and every Belichick knew he kind

1147
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 3: of couldn't play. And Tom Brady is now the hood ornament.

1148
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: And if he doesn't deliver on a level that's even

1149
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: somewhat close to Greg Olsen at least. I don't know

1150
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: if he cares about people like us, but it's gonna

1151
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: be in you know, the athletic and other places like that,

1152
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: that like he is inferior to the guy who's number

1153
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: two and is making what won twelfth of his money,

1154
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: and that's gonna get back to him, Like he's gotta

1155
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: be a little concerned that, like this guy who's already

1156
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: proven he's great at it is in his same building.

1157
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: What do you think that the dynamic's gonna be when

1158
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: they show up to like the Fox, you know, let's

1159
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 3: take pictures and all pretend like we're laughing and throw

1160
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: a football between each other sessions.

1161
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 8: Well, I think a couple of things.

1162
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 9: Number One, you know, the way these guys are judged

1163
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 9: is subjective. You know, when you're a quarterback, you your

1164
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 9: team wins or loses, you throw for three hundred yards.

1165
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 9: You don't throw for three hundred yards, and so it's

1166
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 9: a little bit more cut and dry. I think the

1167
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 9: what you're pointing out is if Brady's like really bad,

1168
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 9: like if he's there's gonna be people who don't like

1169
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 9: Tom Brady just because they don't like Tom Brady. No

1170
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 9: matter what he does, they won't like him. But I

1171
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 9: do think you can win over the audience. And the

1172
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 9: one thing about it calling a football game maybe it's

1173
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 9: one of the hardest things to do in sportscasting, you know,

1174
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 9: doing a podcast, you know, he's not the same thing.

1175
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 8: You know, it's he's controlled environment.

1176
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 9: You're just talking to another person, Like you said, in

1177
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 9: the setup that Tom has, you know, Jim Gray is

1178
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 9: really the one orchestrating everything and doing kind of the

1179
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 9: hard work to pilot everything, and you know Kevin Burkhart

1180
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 9: will do that in the Fox booth, but just knowing

1181
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 9: how to get in and out, how to translate. Obviously

1182
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 9: he has high level thoughts about football. But can you

1183
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 9: say that so you know, I can understand, so the

1184
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 9: average fan can understand and simplify it. You know, that's

1185
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 9: a question that until you do it, you don't know,

1186
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 9: and it has to be natural, like Romo's success at

1187
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 9: the beginning was because he did come off as very natural,

1188
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 9: very relaxed, and like he was just talking to you

1189
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 9: in your living room, as opposed to being like, you know,

1190
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 9: trying to be a broadcaster, trying to be somebody else.

1191
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: I I agree with you, and yet I remember when

1192
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: Olsen did it as an active player, and he was good,

1193
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: like the first game, and a lot of times, like

1194
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: when we hear like Adjason Whitten or someone that's not

1195
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: good the first game, the first yeah, you can kind

1196
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: of tell right away sometimes and it never changed, like

1197
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: Olsen was good. I know he's gotten better, but he

1198
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 3: was good the first game. I want to know what

1199
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Speaker 3: your Olsen meter is, though, Like what's the chances he's

1200
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: not at Fox to start the year? And I guess

1201
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: what would be the other options because I can't I

1202
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 3: can't imagine. He's too excited to be taking that big

1203
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: of a pig. I know he's made a lot of

1204
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: money in his life and everything, but like he's he's

1205
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: competitive as hell.

1206
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: But imagine imagine the place where he must be because

1207
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: you're you have having this great success. Everyone loves you

1208
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: now it's like seven million dollar haircut, and now you're

1209
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: no longer the a guy has to be really tricky

1210
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: more morale wise.

1211
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: For him right now it is.

1212
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 9: I think he'll be at Fox, he'll do the number

1213
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 9: two games, and then I think he'll reevaluate everything and

1214
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 9: see what's up there. I would say, though, I don't

1215
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 9: really feel that bad for Greg Olsen. I you know,

1216
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 9: look at him, as he's in a great spot. He's

1217
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 9: thirty six, thirty seven years old, and these jobs are

1218
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 9: now paying thirty seven a half million or eighteen million.

1219
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 3: Dollars right here, Brady rose the ceiling here for guys exactly.

1220
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 9: And there's only a small group of people who are

1221
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 9: going to be offered these jobs, and they're mostly Hall

1222
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 9: of Fame quarterbacks or legendary quarterbacks. And they tried to

1223
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 9: get Peyton for you know, the salary structure, you know, partly,

1224
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 9: you know, the biggest reason was ESPN couldn't get money

1225
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 9: in a football correct, But that was in part because

1226
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 9: Peyton kept saying no. He said no, no, no, no,

1227
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 9: and so and then Romo had the you know, free

1228
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 9: agent and see where he had ESPN and CBS both

1229
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 9: wanting him, and the NFL contracts with the networks were up,

1230
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 9: and so that's why they got to that level. But

1231
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 9: it's just a small group that's in there for these

1232
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 9: jobs and they don't open that often because they're great

1233
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 9: jobs and they pay so well. But Greg Olsen will

1234
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 9: get the opportunity to be a number one. I think,

1235
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 9: I don't know where exactly some ideas, but I'm not

1236
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 9: going to.

1237
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 8: Say it on your podcast, No offense.

1238
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: I'll get save those, but well there's only so many.

1239
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: What do you think about you think Amazon is bringing

1240
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: back the same group this year?

1241
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: What's that meter? They are?

1242
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: Okay, he's saving his March bombs for no I get it,

1243
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: but that's a separate issue. So I was just kiddious

1244
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: if they respect March bombs, if they would think about

1245
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: shaking it up, whether it was herb Street or how

1246
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1247
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: Let's finish here because you mentioned Romo always a subject

1248
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: of fascination. I loved Andrew going out the door at

1249
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: the post after a huge run there with Tony Romo.

1250
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: I know you didn't write the headline, but Tony and

1251
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: Jim Nantz are a mess. With Super Bowl twenty twenty four,

1252
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: barreling toward them on a headline, What did you think

1253
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: about the Super Bowl performance by the pair and what

1254
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: is their future in your mind? Where do you kind

1255
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: of see there? You know, is that a pair that's

1256
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: going to stay together? Will they be broken up? Do

1257
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: you think your feelings which are strong and on their

1258
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: struggles in recent years, you think that shared inside the

1259
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: building A year after, you know, some of the criticism

1260
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: really started to build and the report had come to

1261
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: Jesus conversation that was held after the previous year.

1262
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 9: So yeah, my post super Bowl column for the Athletic,

1263
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 9: I think their headline was a little maybe a little softer.

1264
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 8: But it was pretty strong column.

1265
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 9: You know, they kind of messed up that final call,

1266
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 9: especially you know, Nance calls the touchdown and then for

1267
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 9: whatever reason, you know.

1268
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 8: Didn't was they able to finish the call.

1269
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 9: Because Tony was going in about the Andy Reid play

1270
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 9: and he always like loves to say, this is the

1271
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 9: play of the game, this is that's the play of

1272
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 9: the game. You're this is your chance to actually say

1273
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 9: that that won the Super Bowl. That's what it should

1274
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 9: be and better he probably should have let silence happen,

1275
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 9: let the crowd take it over and then give your

1276
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 9: analysis a little bit after. So they struggled in that

1277
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I think there is an issue in terms

1278
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 9: of that chemistry between the two of them. I think

1279
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 9: that showed up in terms of, you know, the fundamentals

1280
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 9: that you have in a broadcast, especially they've been together,

1281
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 9: I think six years now, five or six years, they

1282
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 9: should be.

1283
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 8: They should know, they should have it down. When you're

1284
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 8: a team. You guys know, you guys have done a

1285
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 8: podcast together.

1286
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 9: You know when you're going in and out, and you

1287
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 9: know the Super Bowl is not when you want to

1288
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 9: mess up, especially that final call. And so yeah, I

1289
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 9: do think they have an issue.

1290
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 8: Do they know it?

1291
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 9: I think at some level that they know that there's

1292
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 9: there's problems there. Will they do anything about it? Maybe

1293
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 9: you know at some point, but you know, not the moment.

1294
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: All right.

1295
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: Andrew marshaw on check him out on the Athletic Now.

1296
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: His latest, by the way, is a banger about Lebron

1297
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: James and JJ Reddick teaming up for a podcast that

1298
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: all about ball, all about ball, and it has one

1299
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: of the best quotes. This is what we need, Greg,

1300
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: We need someone that vouches for us the way Maverick

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Speaker 2: Carter This is this quote that Andrew.

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Speaker 3: We need inside sources with our next this is what

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01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 3: he says about Reddick and Lebron. This is like two

1304
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: wine masters. Somalier's talking about wine, not necessarily you or

1305
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: me arguing if I like Burgundy or Bordeaux better whoa.

1306
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: That is amazing to be called a Somalier. And you

1307
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: got that quote, and that's what we need. We need

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Speaker 3: support like that. That's what we needed.

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Speaker 8: I can do.

1310
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Speaker 1: I gotta do it about it.

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Speaker 9: What would be like the like the analogy that somebody

1312
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 9: might use for you guys.

1313
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Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't know, you know that that we're

1314
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,959
Speaker 3: setting each other up like Shaq and Kobe or something

1315
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: like that.

1316
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: Great Shack and Kobe feels strong.

1317
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: It's like Brian Big Country Reeves and whoever else was

1318
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Speaker 2: on the Vancouver Gress.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much, Andrew. You're the best.

1320
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Speaker 2: Say hi to your brother for us.

1321
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: The show and you didn't even.

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Speaker 8: Tell them.

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Speaker 1: Great, excellent, all right, Andrew Man, Shawn, thank you for everything.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: There he goes, Yeah, I mean, geez, we need a

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Speaker 2: Maverick Carter. That's that's kind of the big takeaway.

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01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: But in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of of what we just heard from Andrew.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard that. I don't know if that was

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01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: out there.

1332
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was, but that Olso in addition to

1333
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: taking that step down to the number two teams losing

1334
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: seven million a year, but the good job also by

1335
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: Andrew adding the necessary uh, you know, take a step back,

1336
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: that he's Olsen has set up so well in the

1337
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: long term that even if this is a little bit

1338
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: of a slice of humble pie. First of all, everyone

1339
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: knows it's not his fault. It's just the circumstances of

1340
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: the situation. And whether it's Fox or someone else, he

1341
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: is now put enough on tape where he is going

1342
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: to be taking care of down the line.

1343
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Speaker 3: There's I mean, there's only so many someone else's so

1344
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: it's you know, CBS or Amazon, and you know, Andrew

1345
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: isn't gonna want to do a Marsh Marsh bomb on

1346
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: our show, and maybe we can get to this he says, yeah,

1347
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 3: there's no chance, or he just said, you know, Amazon's

1348
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: bringing back the same too, which I have no reason

1349
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: to doubt, I believe. Though it was reported that that

1350
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 3: was initially a three year contract for those two guys,

1351
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: so this might be there. Finally your feet feels like

1352
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: they would want to shake that up. Man, he could

1353
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: do even just keep out.

1354
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Speaker 2: And I have an idea as we go to break

1355
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: better than Herb Street. Eric Roberts for the You know

1356
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: how every episode, you guys write like a little recap

1357
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: underneath the headline.

1358
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Speaker 1: Or the title of the podcast. Just do this.

1359
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's Dan and Greg on today's show. And

1360
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: then right, this is like two wine masters. Somalia's talking

1361
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: about wine. Not necessarily you are me arguing if I

1362
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: like Burgundy, your Bordeaux better.

1363
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Speaker 1: That's all. That's all it is. That's it. That's it, okay,

1364
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: and just see where the metrics go on. I think

1365
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Speaker 1: it'll have a massive impact.

1366
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a break and then welcome in

1367
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Speaker 2: another guest.

1368
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Speaker 1: Oh nice guest. Heavy show today.

1369
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Speaker 6: Less than they are to gain on fourth down, the

1370
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 6: forty three seconds remaining rams creepy on.

1371
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Speaker 10: They rush forward, Burrow to frow Ford.

1372
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Speaker 6: He's hit, Peace sacked, he throws it away, He flings

1373
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 6: it away on fourth down. Aaron Donald got there. Donald

1374
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 6: takes his helmet off in celebration. He flips Burrow to

1375
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 6: the turf and forces the incompletion on fourth and one.

1376
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 10: He singles to his ring.

1377
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Speaker 6: Finger on his left hand, and you can build that

1378
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 6: man statue out so far stadium right now, the greatest

1379
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 6: of all time on defense does it in the biggest

1380
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 6: moment of Super Bowl fifty.

1381
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Speaker 1: Six, a brilliant call from JB. Long, the voice of.

1382
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Rams, the Super Bowl winning takedown a

1383
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: burrow that led to Los Angeles' close, narrow win over

1384
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: the Bengals a couple of years back. And now Aaron

1385
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: Donald is done with football. He announced his retirement Friday

1386
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: after ten absolutely dominant seasons. So why don't we welcome

1387
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Speaker 2: in the great voice of the Rams, JB. Long, friend

1388
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: of the show who called every game of Rams of

1389
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: Donald's La Rams career, and now Los Angeles moves into

1390
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: an uncertain place without their stud JB.

1391
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to her on the NFL.

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 10: Danny Greg, It's great to see you both. Thank you

1393
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 10: for the invitation. You know how much I'd love to

1394
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 10: talk about Aaron Donald, and he's done so much for me,

1395
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 10: including getting the couple appearances on around the NFL. So

1396
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Speaker 10: thank you bring and I'm thankful for that honor.

1397
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: What was it like? You know you this is a guy.

1398
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: And just to put it into context, there's been maybe

1399
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: no other player in the history of the sport that

1400
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: was as consistently dominating as Donald, you know, maybe barrs Anders.

1401
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: And it's fitting because they both kind of retired after

1402
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: ten years at the top of their league from the

1403
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: time they entered to the time they exit. Three time

1404
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, eight time First Team All Pro,

1405
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: ten time Pro Bowl selection every year of his career,

1406
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: former Defensive Rookie of the Year.

1407
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: When he started in Saint Louis.

1408
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: What was it like watching this guy and essentially covering

1409
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: him on a day by day, weekly basis. How quickly

1410
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: did you realize you were watching an all timer immediately?

1411
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 10: I mean it was a privilege, it was an honor.

1412
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 10: I remember my first training camp. Many of others have

1413
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 10: shared this anecdote. But it's tough to practice when Aaron's

1414
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 10: on the field. Oftentimes, when Sean McVay was calling plays,

1415
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 10: even against his own defense, he would wait to take

1416
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 10: a shot until Aaron subbed out for just that one rep,

1417
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 10: because otherwise the play wouldn't get off, whether they were

1418
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 10: in pads or not. But yeah, I was watching a

1419
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 10: living legend. The play that you just talked about. To

1420
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 10: me was like the culmination was his mountaintop, the fact

1421
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 10: that he got hands on Jimmy Garoppolo in the NFC

1422
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 10: Championship game as well to essentially have walkoff hits in

1423
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 10: back games at Sofi Stadium, the biggest in RAMS history.

1424
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 10: I know you guys that around the NFL are very

1425
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 10: careful and draw strict boundaries when comparing sports, but like,

1426
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 10: what is the equivalence, what is the equivalent of that

1427
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 10: like yard in game six? I'm sure, but like to me,

1428
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 10: it's almost more like especially for a defensive player. Can

1429
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 10: you imagine robbing a home run in Game seven of

1430
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 10: the NLCS and then coming back and doing it again

1431
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 10: in the World Series for a second last out. Like

1432
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 10: so much of that twenty one year orbited around Aaron.

1433
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 10: So much of what the RAMS have done during my

1434
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 10: tenure have been driven by maximizing the prime of the

1435
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 10: greatest defensive player that I've ever seen walk the planet,

1436
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 10: whether it's trading those picks, like what has flipped those picks?

1437
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 10: You know, to use a euphemism, really mean in the

1438
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 10: context of the Rams, it's about using every resource that

1439
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 10: you have to get the most out of Aaron Donald's prime,

1440
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 10: because whether they were a four or five win team,

1441
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 10: which they have been during my tenure, or a championship

1442
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 10: winning team, every game that Aaron played, you felt like

1443
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 10: you had a chance to win. He was that influential

1444
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 10: a defensive force.

1445
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: He's the greatest defensive player I believe I've ever seen.

1446
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: I think the only other.

1447
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: Person that would be in the mix would be JJ Watt,

1448
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 3: who at his very peak, which was also during this show,

1449
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: and he's the guy, along with Aaron Donald and Lawrence Taylor,

1450
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 3: who have the only ones that have won three Defensive

1451
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: Player Dependsive Player of the years. At his very peak,

1452
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 3: JJ Watt was at such a high level I have

1453
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: a hard time putting anyone in front of him. But

1454
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 3: you can make your argument for Donald that they're certainly

1455
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 3: right there in the same area at their very peak.

1456
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: It's just different positions. But did you say Donald? I

1457
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: did Donald back? But JJ what Like? That's why Donald?

1458
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 3: When you're trying to compare him to other people, the

1459
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 3: only other person that comes up to me is actually

1460
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: Jim Brown because he played nine seasons and that's the

1461
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: only other person I can think of that from the

1462
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 3: minute he entered the league to the minute he left.

1463
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: Essentially he was.

1464
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 3: At the very very top of what he did, which

1465
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: is that's what Aaron Donald did too.

1466
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: Eight as you mentioned, eight first team All Pros.

1467
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: He could have been first team, but he ended that

1468
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two season a little early. He could have

1469
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: maybe gotten at his rookie year too. It's just like

1470
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: people didn't know Aaron Donald. He did come back that

1471
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: second year next level, but unlike those guys you're right, like,

1472
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: who combines all of that with having that moment? It's

1473
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: so rare in sports to have the greatest player in

1474
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: the sport at.

1475
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: What he does have, Like what is a walk off?

1476
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: It's literally unprecedented in football history. There is no one

1477
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,919
Speaker 3: that's actually checked off all those sort of boxes exactly

1478
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 3: in the same way that Aaron Donald did. And he's

1479
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: such a humble guy and quiet guy that I think

1480
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 3: he probably got less attention because of that and the

1481
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: position that he plays. He got a little less attention

1482
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 3: because of that because it takes ball Knower's like you

1483
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: JB to recognize it. You wrote about him on the

1484
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 3: RAMS website this week, and I thought it was interesting.

1485
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: You really talked about how glad you were he came

1486
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: back for these last two years, So I did want

1487
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: to ask you about that, what these last two years

1488
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 3: were like after he openly considered retiring and he's passing

1489
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: up what thirty million dollars this year to retire, And

1490
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 3: then also you didn't seem as surprised. I don't think

1491
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 3: about this decision as most people on the outside. So

1492
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 3: I guess just I'm curious about how this retirement came

1493
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 3: into view this offseason.

1494
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: Two.

1495
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 10: Well, I'm sure you both remember the conversation that was

1496
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 10: being had in and around the Super Bowl and certainly

1497
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 10: after the Rams won, leading up to the parade about

1498
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 10: you know, whether or not he would be back, whether

1499
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 10: he would just go out on top of the world,

1500
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 10: quite literally in professional football. And I had the distinct

1501
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 10: honor of hosting that championship parade outside the LM Memorial Coliseum, and.

1502
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: I was there with the kids, We got the pictures,

1503
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: we were there.

1504
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 10: Great Rams fans that you are, And maybe you can

1505
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 10: echo back to me your sensation when you heard that

1506
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 10: he was willing to run it back and just to

1507
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 10: kind of go behind the curtain a little bit. As

1508
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 10: a team employee, I was instructed not to go down

1509
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 10: the pathway of Aaron's future when he took his turn

1510
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 10: at the micro understandably so, because that was an unresolved issue.

1511
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 10: But I'm standing between him and Sean McVay. Shawn's kind

1512
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 10: of jabbing me in the ribs, daring me to go

1513
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 10: ahead and ask if he's willing to run it back,

1514
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 10: and so talk about being between a rock and a

1515
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 10: hard place. I had what second decision, and I really

1516
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 10: appreciate the grace with which Aaron handled that, but it

1517
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 10: started a two year clock. I didn't know that I

1518
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:52,839
Speaker 10: was going to run for two years, but it started

1519
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 10: the preparation process of this is not going to last forever.

1520
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 10: And run it back did not go well, as you know.

1521
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 10: The Rams fell to the depths of five and twelve,

1522
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 10: and Aaron missed games in that twenty twenty two season

1523
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 10: because of injury for the first time in his career,

1524
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 10: and that prepared me mentally, emotionally for what life was

1525
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 10: going to be like after Aaron Donald. And we always

1526
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 10: knew it was going to be a challenge because he

1527
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 10: spoiled us, but whether it was like Baker Mayfield beating

1528
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 10: the Raiders on Thursday Night football at SOFI Stadium or

1529
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 10: some of the other uplifting moments. It was a good

1530
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 10: preview that the future is possible. And then I'm especially

1531
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 10: glad for this past season when he welcomed a group

1532
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 10: of fourteen drafted rookies, including Kobe Turner and passed the

1533
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 10: baton in a way. I think this past season goes

1534
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 10: down as one of the most enjoyable for Rams fans

1535
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 10: outside of their championship seasons, because they overachieved and because

1536
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 10: you can see now the path into the future. And

1537
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 10: that includes for their head coach Sean McVay, who's spoken

1538
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 10: openly about how the greatest defensive player of all time

1539
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 10: has helped him course correct and start this second book

1540
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 10: of his I assume Hall of Fame career eventually, just

1541
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 10: like Aaron.

1542
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: Do you think internally, like you said, a really fun

1543
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: season for the Rams. They nearly knock off the Lions

1544
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 2: and the playoffs and that great wild card game. Do

1545
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: you think the Rams have been preparing for this really

1546
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 2: since that game ended or was there any internal hope

1547
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: or belief that he would be back.

1548
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: How much of a surprise was it in the building.

1549
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 10: I don't think it was a surprise. And even going

1550
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 10: back to like three and six at the bye I

1551
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 10: think some of the moves they made, even as subtle

1552
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 10: as signing Carson Wentz to make sure that there was

1553
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 10: a backup to Matthew Stafford down the stretch run even

1554
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 10: hinted at the fact that we don't know if we're

1555
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 10: going to get another crack at this with Aaron Donald

1556
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 10: in his prime or ever. And so while the NFC

1557
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 10: is wide open, while we do think there is a

1558
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 10: path to a playoff spot slim though the odds may be,

1559
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 10: let's make sure we're doing everything we can to get

1560
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 10: him in the dance one more time. Because at the

1561
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 10: end of the last regular season, I think on the show,

1562
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 10: you guys said as much they were the team that

1563
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 10: no one wanted to play. Now Detroit got to play them,

1564
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 10: and Jarrett had his moment and they handled that, And

1565
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 10: good on them for knocking the Rams out of the postseason.

1566
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 10: But who among us would have been surprised if, led

1567
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 10: by Aaron and Matthew and whukn nakua, they had made

1568
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 10: another run to an NFC championship or maybe beyond. I

1569
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 10: think all of those thoughts have been in the back

1570
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 10: of Ram's executive minds for many, many years, because the

1571
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 10: window is always closing in the National Football League, especially

1572
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 10: when you have someone beyond thirty years old.

1573
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been reading a little bit and it's fascinating

1574
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 3: they've had to prepare umbellbreg about reading. I just been

1575
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 3: on the Donald contract, and we don't need to get

1576
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 3: too deep into that, but it is interesting that they

1577
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 3: structured this restructure in a way that kind of showed

1578
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: maybe they knew this retirement could have been coming, but also.

1579
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: Leaves the door open just a little bit.

1580
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 3: If he changes his mind at some point in the future,

1581
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 3: because look, he already changes his mind once. You just

1582
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 3: never know, and they would want to leave room for

1583
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: that to happen. They've got a lot to do to

1584
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: replace him. They certainly got out to a great start

1585
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 3: with that last year with Kobe Turner and what they

1586
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 3: were gonna do, Like, what do you think they're gonna

1587
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: do next?

1588
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: Do you think they're gonna take some big swings?

1589
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 3: Maybe this offseason, having with this having happened, they've been

1590
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: a little quieter, but I think making smart moves and

1591
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: certainly spending money at the guard position and everything that

1592
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: I expected this offseason well.

1593
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 10: Greg, let me start by stating the obvious, which you

1594
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 10: both know as well as anyone. There is no such

1595
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 10: thing as replacing Aaron Donald offseason or ever. So that's

1596
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 10: your starting point. But bracing for that impact, can you

1597
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 10: do certain things to try and absorb the loss just

1598
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 10: this gaping cavity that you have in the middle of

1599
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 10: your defensive line?

1600
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1601
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 10: Sure, I mean I think Kobe Turner having a borderline

1602
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 10: defensive Rookie of the Year season helps. But for so

1603
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 10: many years we've seen so many defensive players benefit from

1604
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 10: the Aaron Donald bump, right, whether it's Von Miller at

1605
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 10: the end of that season, Leonard Floyd, Dante Fowler, like

1606
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,879
Speaker 10: even players in the secondary really benefited.

1607
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: Get people paid.

1608
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 10: He gets people paid, that's right. He pushed the market

1609
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 10: for defensive tackles into the twenty million per dollar range

1610
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 10: and then the thirty million dollar per range. Like you know,

1611
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 10: I said that, He's both a driving force behind the

1612
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 10: way that current NFL offensive football is played and then

1613
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 10: the perfect antidote to that. Right when you talk about

1614
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 10: quick game and efficiency and getting the ball out of

1615
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 10: your hands, interior pressure that he created, the way that

1616
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 10: he punctured pockets faster than anyone else. It's irreplaceable, but

1617
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 10: that doesn't mean that you can't win games. And if

1618
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 10: you've seen the Rams, you know subtly invest in their

1619
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 10: offensive line for a couple of years now to try

1620
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 10: and build that wall, especially guard to guard in front

1621
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 10: of Matthew Stafford so that he can't step up in

1622
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 10: the pocket, take that extra hitch and go through his

1623
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 10: full field reads. Or making sure that DeMarcus Robinson is back. Now,

1624
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 10: all these things that whether or not you have to

1625
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 10: improve on offense and or special teams to compensate for

1626
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 10: what you're losing inevitably on defense. I think those things

1627
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 10: all go hand in hand. But I don't think anyone

1628
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 10: was caught flat footed within the Rams organization that this

1629
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 10: offseason Aaron could do something like this.

1630
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 3: I want to pat myself on the back right now.

1631
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I love.

1632
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: Is that portion of the show already it is.

1633
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 3: And I only know this because one of our listeners

1634
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 3: sent me this tweet earlier this offseason, not related to

1635
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald's retirement. They had been going through the old

1636
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 3: archives of all the shows we did. We did the

1637
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald Draft. Of course, we were already doing our show.

1638
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 3: Then Dan and Mark were in New York for the

1639
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: Johnny Manzel draft. Chris and I were back here with

1640
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 3: Kevin Patrick coming at you in the studio with us,

1641
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 3: And here was my reaction when we did a little

1642
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 3: segment favorite pick. I'm gonna give my favorite pick of

1643
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: the round to the Saint Louis Rams, even though I

1644
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: wanted them to take a quarterback because I just think

1645
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 3: they're sticking with Sam Bradford too long. Ultimately, you have

1646
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 3: to like the team they're putting together with Aaron Donald

1647
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: on that defensive line, Donald, Michael Brockers, Robert Quinn and

1648
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 3: Chris Long is the most insane pass rush defensive line

1649
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: in the league.

1650
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: Right now, there we go.

1651
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you had to be here for there, there

1652
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 2: for you, but that's just part of the show and

1653
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 2: some of the mechanics of how the sausage.

1654
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 3: I enjoyed listening to this so much because there was

1655
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 3: then there was a huge debate. We were really fired

1656
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 3: up back and forth, kind of killing the Ram. A

1657
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 3: lot of us were killing the Rams for not taking

1658
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel, But I did, like Mark had a fun

1659
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 3: statement to about the drafting of it.

1660
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 5: There have been twenty two men in NFL draft history

1661
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 5: that have been drafted with a combination of two first

1662
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 5: names in their name, Aaron Donald being one of them.

1663
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 5: None of them have lasted more than three years.

1664
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: Making things up, just making things up, no one.

1665
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 9: Ryan had a pretty good career in Major League Baseball,

1666
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 9: well Worth.

1667
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 5: That does not move the needle on this podcast to.

1668
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: Sleep, I just put a hecks on the rams.

1669
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 9: They are doomed to go seven and nine every single

1670
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 9: year for the rest of eternity.

1671
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh Man, Well, Wes often was right and not in

1672
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 2: that case, and I could tell you they had.

1673
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: Some more seven nine ninees. I think yeah at that point, JB.

1674
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 2: I remember being in that hotel room with Mark in

1675
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: New York City with I think it was a twelver

1676
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,839
Speaker 2: of amstelt Light, just doing that podcast Greg the Boss

1677
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,480
Speaker 2: across the country, you know, unaware that we were imbibing

1678
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 2: at the time.

1679
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 10: Well, I know, Dan that you and Mark have really

1680
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 10: cornered the market when it comes to free agency, that

1681
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 10: you've become the foremost authorities. And Greg has tried to

1682
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 10: dip his toe into those waters. What has really seen

1683
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 10: for his niche And so it's a good callback that

1684
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 10: He's always been kind of the draftnick on the show,

1685
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 10: and that's where he should can.

1686
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: Give ws, can give his ws where you can get him.

1687
01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 3: What a what a player though, I mean, just just

1688
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 3: insane to see him change games the way that he

1689
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 3: did from really his second year he was greatest first year.

1690
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 3: But I even found some tweets back from his first

1691
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: game a second year where I tweeted, but a lot

1692
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 3: of people it's like, holy cow, Aaron Donald is suddenly

1693
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 3: like the best player in the league right now, and

1694
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 3: then just to stay that way from from there through

1695
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 3: all these playoff runs a legend, legend we got to

1696
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: see here in Lost Ange.

1697
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 10: Do you ever hear anyone say a bad thing about him?

1698
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 3: I didn't, No, I am kind of curious, but it

1699
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: seems like there's never any like stories about what he's

1700
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 3: like behind the scenes other than like he's just like

1701
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 3: a nice.

1702
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: Feel Like all I ever heard was like he has

1703
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: that dog in him. He's an intense guy. Like what

1704
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 2: was it like kind of dealing with him in one

1705
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: on one.

1706
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 10: Capacity professional respects? You could feel the presence of greatness

1707
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 10: when you walk past him in the hallway, and if

1708
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 10: you saw him smile, I mean, the guy lights up

1709
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 10: a room, and there's so much for him beyond football

1710
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 10: that I can understand he kept it to a decade.

1711
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 10: But also, given what you said, would I be shocked

1712
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 10: if if we see him again in Horns. Maybe it's

1713
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 10: just naivete on my part or a hopeful ignorance, but

1714
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 10: I would love to see that happen. But yeah, he

1715
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 10: was one of a kind, you know, eighty ninety nine forever,

1716
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 10: He's one of one. And I'm just so thankful for

1717
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 10: how easy he made my job because it always gave

1718
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 10: you the opportunity to ask his peers, what's it like

1719
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 10: to work with this guy? Right, Like as someone who

1720
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 10: asked questions and interviews players and coaches for a living,

1721
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 10: Like how many coach McVeigh shows did I do following

1722
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 10: a loss where there was like, you know, a shrinking

1723
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 10: number of things where we could actually talk about to

1724
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 10: get through our twenty minutes, But there was always well,

1725
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 10: Aaron played well right, and he could wax poet about

1726
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 10: what a unique talent Aaron was. And you know, the

1727
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 10: only criticism I ever heard from him is that he

1728
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 10: would occasionally freelance and like violate an assignment or a

1729
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 10: gap right, and even those who would say such a

1730
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 10: thing had to acknowledge that while that may be a

1731
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 10: risk on film, it really wasn't when who had put

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01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 10: in the study and you had the competitive greatness that

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01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 10: Aaron did because he wasn't playing the same game that

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01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 10: the other ten players were on defense, so that anyone

1735
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 10: who's ever played the defensive tackle position ever has he

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01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 10: perfected it in a very unique way. And even going

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01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 10: back to the draft, for someone who had question marks

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01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 10: about length size, the fact that he turned those question

1739
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 10: marks into the exclamation points that made him a first

1740
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 10: ballot Hall of Famer someday is what I'll always appreciate

1741
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 10: about covering his career.

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01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 3: Well, he's a connection from Saint Louis. He's the connection

1743
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: between Saint Louis and these La Rams teams. I mean,

1744
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 3: he was fourteenth pick overall in the draft that they

1745
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 3: had the second overall pick, so like less Need is

1746
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 3: the one that took him. It's funny because you had

1747
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: a whole bit on that show about Lesned's high cheek

1748
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: bones and beautiful flowing hair, and they were like, asome,

1749
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 3: you better have a good draft here if they're going

1750
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: to pass on Manzell they'd better be a good draft

1751
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: still there. One for two is plenty good enough when

1752
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: the one is the greatest of all time or you know,

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01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 3: LT's in that mix.

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01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: But you know, we use that term to really stay

1755
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: the top.

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01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: At least in the in the analytics era and the

1757
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 2: there's nobody that grades out like this man and so

1758
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: football in the last fifteen years. May and we mentioned

1759
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: what but what part of Donald's greatness and his magnificence

1760
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: is that he he kept his prime throughout his entire career,

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01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: just like JB. Long, Who's who will continue to thrive

1762
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 2: as the play by play man. Whenever the next great

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: ram arrives, he'll be there as well.

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01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 10: I sure hope so. And for all of your friendship

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01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 10: and integrity on the Around the NFL podcast, I.

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01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: Commendet wow let him to my next conversation. You're the man.

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01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 10: Gion producer Eric whispered something to me along the way

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01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 10: in preparation for this interview. I wish you all well.

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: Thank you Jamie great JB along with the insight that

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01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,480
Speaker 2: we needed, delivered.

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01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 3: Part of the family, I mean, Keisha the remily well

1772
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 3: I was, I meant more of the Around the NFL

1773
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: family I mean Keisha when she comes to town. Yeah,

1774
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: she's got a lot of people she wants to see,

1775
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 3: needs to see. She she goes and sees her old,

1776
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: her old neighbor.

1777
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 1: Unless we forget Ricky Hollywood do.

1778
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: I meant to tell JB Long to keep an eye

1779
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 2: on Hollywood, just to keep her in keep her in line.

1780
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 2: In general, Erica needs that, and I think JB is

1781
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: a guiding force for many.

1782
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:32,839
Speaker 1: Take a break and we'll close things out right, everybody,

1783
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Mind the glasses that better

1784
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: or worse? Off? A little staccato in your I don't know,

1785
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: not for me.

1786
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: There you go by the way, and I know what

1787
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: you're saying, because you're talking about Donald had the walk off,

1788
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 2: back to back walk off in the Super Bowl. But

1789
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: it really is crazy to look at Barry Sanders' career

1790
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: and look at Aaron Donald. Both played ten years, Both

1791
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: were constant in the mix. Barry was a first or

1792
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: second team All Pro all ten years, ten time pro bowler,

1793
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 2: won the Big Accoleates, two time NFL Offensive Player of

1794
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: the Year. He won the MVP once, which Donald I

1795
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: don't think ever got. But that's they don't give it

1796
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: to defensive players. But that's the level of player. And

1797
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,480
Speaker 2: I think Barry, if you were old enough to see Sanders,

1798
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 2: you wish he got what Donald got, which was that

1799
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: chance on the biggest stage, and Sanders never did. So

1800
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 2: the Lions never could get out of the second round.

1801
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: I think they made to one NFC title game that

1802
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: didn't go their way, but otherwise, you know, we're held

1803
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: out of the Super Bowls. They've been for the entirety

1804
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: of their history. But Donald getting that opportunity and us

1805
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: being there for it, We've now been sneaky at a

1806
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: lot of huge moments in NFL history.

1807
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: This is not lost on me. I'm sure it's not

1808
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: lost on you, Gregy.

1809
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 2: We're very lucky to have seen Aaron Donald in person

1810
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: make that play Joe Burrow midfield, and that's a special

1811
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow year.

1812
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: That was a secial Cincinnati year.

1813
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: They had the Pixie dust all over them, and they're

1814
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: down a field goal at midfield with fourth down in

1815
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 2: the final minute of the Super Bowl, and it's Donald

1816
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: who blows up the play because don't you get the feeling,

1817
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: if Barrow gets protected, he's probably finding somebody and they're

1818
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: continuing to march with.

1819
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: The field March chase.

1820
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: He was open on that play if he had some time,

1821
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: but he didn't have time.

1822
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: And they had Evan McPherson, who's like having an all

1823
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: time season as a young.

1824
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,799
Speaker 1: Kicker the playoffs.

1825
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: He was really the start of the playoffs with them,

1826
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 2: and yet Aaron Donald said no, and he pointed to

1827
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: the ring finger. So a reminder, we'll be back Wednesday

1828
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: with are always check in with all the team's post

1829
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: free agency first wave around the AFC on Wednesday, with

1830
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: a guest to be named later around the NFC on Thursday.

1831
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: I think we're getting clay bound on Thursday. Patrick will

1832
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: be excellent. So that is great.

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01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: And a note for Behind the Glass Eric I was

1834
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: thinking about this some more so for the episode recap.

1835
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: Let's let's take this down verbatim. The latest e f EP.

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01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 2: The latest EP is a hands of Rosenthal joint period.

1837
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: This is like two wine masters. Somalia's talking about wine,

1838
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily you or me arguing if I like Burgundy

1839
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: or Bordeo better, nothing else.

1840
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,919
Speaker 1: Got it makes my job here as an editor.

1841
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: Any thoughts of just ending it right right at talking

1842
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 3: about wine or no.

1843
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: You like the rest of it? I Ordo. I like that.

1844
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: I like that, like because there's a there's a way

1845
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 2: what Maverick did there. In his conversation with Marshaun, he

1846
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: was like, everyone else are pissons like that are, but

1847
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 2: these two people are Smalia's like, don't even try to

1848
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: be like that. I think that's you need that a

1849
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 2: little more depth anything else.

1850
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 3: That's fired really at the rest of the industry, just

1851
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 3: like Travis Kelcey did for us.

1852
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: Give him pop I get you know.

1853
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: I again, I apologize for being a little flippant about

1854
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: Travis's acceptance speech now that he gave us such job.

1855
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: If you want to talk, you talk Yoh.

1856
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Hey, you got it all. Travis has got it all,

1857
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: and you know he's got some class.

1858
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 3: Let's see if they're still doing that podcast ten years

1859
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: from now, you know, or if we are should we.

1860
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: Have quit after ten years? These are all questions. We

1861
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,919
Speaker 1: don't have that money that AD's got, all right till Wednesday,

1862
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: Heed the call.