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Speaker 1: I've never told to your protection of I heart radio.

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Speaker 1: Pasta works every time we do these intros. I have

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Speaker 1: but this one just doesn't fit at all. Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: Barton Fauna. Yeah, it was on shuffle and that's what

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Speaker 1: But we did find two female clowns who are willing

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Speaker 1: recording such a good story. They also did magic tricks

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Speaker 1: Could you tell us a bit about yourselves? Who you are,

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Speaker 1: and I am one of the healthcare clowns with humorology Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: or ha you call it? Yeah? Sure, So our organization

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Speaker 1: And I read that you're also expanding into UM senior

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, sure, you know, I mean,

430
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Speaker 1: I have my I have my b f a I

431
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: love I love acting so much. It is it is

432
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: if I'm not creating something, then I don't feel right.

433
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: Everything feels off in my life. Um. And so I

434
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't know, like I've children loved me,

435
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: but I've never wanted to have any myself. And I've

436
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: always been like I enjoyed children with a time limit.

437
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: And you know, so I was like, you know, if

438
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: there was a child crying in public, I'd be like,

439
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, um, you know, kind of that insolent,

440
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: petulant type of reaction. So I was just like, you

441
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna try this. Let's just see. Um.

442
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: I love serving people, I love helping. I love serving,

443
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: So let's just see if it works somehow. So I

444
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: got it. I got an audition and I did a

445
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: partially improvised monologue based on a communic character that I

446
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: had done, uh in a in a show. And that's

447
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: that's my thing is I love comedy. I love doing comedy,

448
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: physical comedy. Uh. I've done some clown training, but I

449
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: just love outrageous physical comedy because it was so funny.

450
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: I laughed my face off, so funny, and it was

451
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: about botox, which made it even funnier. Yes, Um, I

452
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to one of my buddies to for Pain,

453
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: who was a local playwright, wrote this one role that

454
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: I did, and it was a woman who had had

455
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: a botox accident and she could no longer move her

456
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: face and so the entire you can't see this at home,

457
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: but I'm doing ventriloquism, the entire monologue. How do they

458
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: delivered without moving my face? Um? So thankfully it worked.

459
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: And then I got to go into the hospital and

460
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: it was I was so nervous because you have people

461
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: there who are they're experts at mine, they're experts at juggling,

462
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: they're experts at magic. And I'm like, I'm a great

463
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: improviser and I can make a joke out of just

464
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: about anything. Uh. And so I was very lucky that

465
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I got to go in there and audition and somehow

466
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I made it onto the team. The callbacks were in

467
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: the hospital, so we did bring people into the hospital

468
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: environment before. Yeah, so I was kind of walking around

469
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, okay, cool, cool, Um

470
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a My grandmother was in a nursing home

471
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: for like sixteen years, so I'm very comfortable with medical

472
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: environments and with long term care environments and that kind

473
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: of stuff. Um. So I went in there and I

474
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: loved it. And I had I learned about handwashing. Guys,

475
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that in a second. I

476
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: really need it, but I uh one of the things

477
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: that I discovered. So you know, I made it through

478
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: that and then they were like, all right, come onto

479
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: the team for a probationary period. We had a clown

480
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: come down from New York City and she was working

481
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: with us as sort of like a training week and

482
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I remember sitting at lunch

483
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: in our then dressing room at one of the hospitals,

484
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: and I started crying because I mean, number one, I'm

485
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: a soft touch, but number two, it was the first

486
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: time that I understood that there was a reason that

487
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I had been given the gifts that I have, and

488
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: that there was actually a place for them to be used.

489
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Two make people's lives appreciably better. Like I sang a

490
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: hungry infant to sleep, like she couldn't be fed because

491
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: she was going to have to have surgery or something,

492
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, who knows what. Her grandmother was holding her

493
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: and I saying that baby to sleep, and I was like, whoa,

494
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: what what that is the thing I can do? Are

495
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: you crazy? And the person that I was um with

496
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: at the time, Dctor not right when we walked out

497
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: of the room, he looked at me and he said

498
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: he's like, you got to touch buddy. He's like, this

499
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: is this is for you? And it was just one

500
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: of those things where I was like, oh, of course

501
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: this is what this is what I'm sure I thought

502
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: I should be doing this guys. UM. So it's been

503
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: a real learning experience, UM. And there are highs and

504
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: there are lows. Um and they are really tough days,

505
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and they're really just ridiculously fun days. But any day

506
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: that I get to do it, I'm so grateful. Um

507
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: So about that hand hygiene, well, that was beautiful. That

508
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: was That's amazing that this is stories that I would

509
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: have never thought of when we were doing the clown

510
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: special or the Colm episode special clown episode. I did say,

511
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: please don't let them dress up, because I do. I'm

512
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: one of those people who does have a few of

513
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: the clown you have a little bit cloud, yes, probably

514
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. Bit also told the story that with any

515
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: there's a very big backstory to that. That was a

516
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: negative experience on top of my experience at the sarcas

517
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: with a guy coming after just different things. But the

518
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Joe question back story that was too negative that I'm like,

519
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the negative Nelly of the group between the

520
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: two of m I'm gonna add this one, but no,

521
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: So in general, I'm just like a little absolutely absolutely petrified,

522
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: to the point that even today someone in full garb

523
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: was like, shrink away cost you. Yeah, these make up

524
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: they are adorable. You guys are not on that level.

525
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: But are the things that we were talking about was it. Yeah,

526
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: I know, I'm we're about to we're about to start

527
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: dealing with that once we go into the hospital. But

528
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: let's remember, guys, it is not a clown the monsters,

529
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, I was thinking about that other day.

530
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: It's like, we really should be spiders should be the

531
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: ones get A lot more people are scared of spiders.

532
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm not as scared of spiders in that letter because

533
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: I can actually stop one to death. That's the Yeah.

534
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I like spiders. They chase me. I I'm gonna go

535
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: after you. Yeah. I mean if there's a saucy one, Yeah,

536
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: if they're hanging out in the corner, that I leaving

537
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: them be. But if it's coming at me or was

538
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: hanging above me where I know it's about to drop

539
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: on me, We're gonna have a fight and I'm gonna

540
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna freaking win. We have a lot more to

541
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: discuss with our wonderful interviewees, but first we're going to

542
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: pause for a quick break for word from our sponsor,

543
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsored. Let's get back into

544
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: the interview. Yeah, so this is a really beautiful day

545
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: because I think any you know I'm talking about that

546
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: these are the things that I haven't thought about in

547
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: a long time, and I knew it existed. That people

548
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: come into entertain to give a distraction and a lot

549
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: and this is really beautiful to hear your stories and um,

550
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: how you're going into it. But with that, yes, tell

551
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: us the things that we need to know that we

552
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought about once you go into So one

553
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: of the things to keep in mind any time you

554
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: are in a medical surrounding, you need to hygiene is

555
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: super important. It's very important for us because we are

556
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: moving across all levels of the hospital. We are entertaining

557
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: kids with compromised immune systems UM. Some of them have

558
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: no immune systems, you know, like where we're dealing with

559
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: kids who are maybe they're okay normally, but anything extract

560
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: you know what, the chemo, chemotherapy UM is really tough.

561
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Chemo and radiation really tough on kids, and it really

562
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: knocks down their natural defenses. So the last thing that

563
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: we want to do is bring anything into them. So

564
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: anytime we're on a new unit, we wash our hands

565
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: UM and the way that you wash your hands, my friends,

566
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: all right, so you take it for real? Is there

567
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: a song for because if there is I want you

568
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: to sing it we have It's usually that you can

569
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: do the alphabet or happy Pappy birthday. But well that's

570
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: how long you need to have on you. So the

571
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: important one of the most important things with handwashing is friction. Okay.

572
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: So first the thing you're going to do is you're

573
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: going to wet your hands. Okay, and yeah, you want

574
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: to take a video and there's Samantha needs this information.

575
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: So um so your hands are now wet. So now

576
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: you put the soap on it. And so this is

577
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: how you go. You put your palms together. So happy

578
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: birthday to you, Happy birthday, and especially if it's our

579
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: for swash of the day, Gina would be no rings,

580
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: no watch yeah, no rings those any pss for bacterias

581
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: to any time you have a chef that has rings on,

582
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: don't eat their food because that's where bacteria hides. Um.

583
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: So you're gonna hook your fingers around each other. Now,

584
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: this area right here, the pad at the bottom of

585
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: the thumb and the thumb are often the most neglected areas.

586
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: And what you do that is you just cond of

587
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: twist twist toists twist right, So now you've gotten between

588
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: your fingers you've got in the palms, you're gonna rub

589
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: the backs of your hands. And also if this is

590
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: the first wash of the day, then I'm also going

591
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: to be rinsing under my nails. So you scrape your

592
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: nails right, and then you're gonna you're still foamy, and

593
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: you're going to do your wrists right. And now you

594
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: you rinse from wrist to hand. Wrist so wrist to

595
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: fingertip like that. Okay, shake it and then draw your

596
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: hands and you're good to go. And then we make

597
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: sure we also foam in and fomat of rooms or

598
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: gel in and gel out of rooms. Don't hand sanitizer,

599
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: so hand sanitizer, they're awesome antimicrobial hand sanitizer, which has

600
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: made my hands look like Baba Yaga's. I only have

601
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: chicken faith for hands now, terrible old lady hands. I'm

602
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: gonna be like Madonna and start wearing finger at gloves. UM.

603
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's very very important. UM. Over nine of

604
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: infections are spread through touching your eyes. It's the mucous

605
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: membrane in your eye. So your eyes, your nose, and

606
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: your mouth, you don't touch them unless your hands are clean. UM,

607
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: super super important, and then you washed immediately after you

608
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: do exactly, and so for us also, we also wash

609
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: after any time we get to give a kid a

610
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: high five, or you know, any kind any of that

611
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: sort of interaction. Everywhere we go there will be UM

612
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: signs that say if kids are on contact or contact droplet,

613
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: if there's any reason why touching might be passing infection

614
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: from them to you, in which case we gout and

615
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: glove and put on masks to go into the room.

616
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: But we also try to treat anybody that we encounter

617
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: as the potential. You don't know what they have, and

618
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: the last thing we want is for the clowns to

619
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: or anybody to bring something to somebody who's has a

620
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: compromised immune system or happens to be allergic to whatever

621
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: that thing is. UM. And I remember, I think, was

622
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: that working with you that time where we were in

623
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: a waiting room. Kids are playing and stuff, and I

624
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: was watching this kid and playing the ukulele, and my

625
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: partner's over here was that you blowing bubbles or something,

626
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: and this kid UM just like pulled the biggest booker

627
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: out of his mass. He was clearly one of those

628
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: booger kids, you know, how they are, and you know,

629
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: and then it went straight in his mouth. And then

630
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: and and Gina's going to give kids high fives. I'm like,

631
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: not this one. I'm not gonna hi five this guy.

632
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: She gave me the look again. We have of we

633
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: have looks that are just like we're still in clown

634
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: and she'll just give me the no shaky Oh boy.

635
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: We're having fun, aren't we. We gotta go. I mean, yeah,

636
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: there there are some um gooey children. There are children,

637
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: and that the great descriptor gooey children. You know, They've

638
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: got the sticky hands and they got sticky faces. They

639
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: still want to have fun, though, and sometimes they come

640
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: up and they touch you and you can't stop them.

641
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 1: And then we have something called ox of Ear, which

642
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: is a fantastic um antimicrobial uh spray that we use

643
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: medical grade and we can spray our costumes. We also

644
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: have another cloth crop a bunch of different things. Yeah, yeah,

645
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I might need you all around for the dragon car.

646
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. One of the biggest things with

647
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: dragon con that I always tell my friends the way

648
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: to avoid the con crud. Okay, you need to remember

649
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: that any high touch surface is essentially a heat tree dish.

650
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: So when you get into the elevator, which makes a

651
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Yes, So when you get into the elevator,

652
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: any door handles that you're dealing with, any chairs that

653
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: you're sitting on, if you're touching the edges of the

654
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: chairs in order to kind of scoot into them, Um,

655
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: anything like that. That is just nerms and cover everything,

656
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: cover all of you and don't breathe. Yeah, just use

657
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: that asmat suit as your cute outfits. Yeah. Yeah, in

658
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: my head, I'm just a pick like you know, how

659
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: you see the germ sequences and different shows. Yeah, all

660
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: I see is darkness coming at me. That's what is

661
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: any You did not do a good job preparing me

662
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: on that level, I would like to say, we just

663
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: love it. So the big key, guys is you just

664
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: need to wash your hands. You do not need antibacterial soap.

665
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Regular soap and water is just easily the best defense.

666
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: Purell is great, um, but it is not as good

667
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: as hand washing. So kill everything. Priorle is great as

668
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: a as an intermediary type of thing. But you know,

669
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: you should think about this with things like gas pumps um,

670
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, and being in this job I'm constantly just

671
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: like so, anytime I need to touch my nose, I

672
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: will take a fabric and I try not to touch

673
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: my face at all anymore, which also helps with breakouts. Yes,

674
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I was gonna say, your skin is listening.

675
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Thank you don't what you're talking about? It's jewie. I'm young,

676
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: but it's not oily like it's wonderfully done. Oh you know,

677
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: there's just say it. Um So, we got the handwashing part.

678
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: What other parts of clowning should you fare? Talents? What

679
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: activities that you do? Whatever? What is something we may

680
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: not know? Um? Well, we have rehearsal with the whole team,

681
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: all twelve clowns, about once a month, and we also

682
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: have an annual conference that we go to where we

683
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: do skills exchange with clowns from other cities, more like

684
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: clown friends. What where is it usually? Is it in

685
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: one location or doesn't move move around? Last year it

686
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta at the Center for Puppets and Baboo

687
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: and conference will be in Dallas. One of our conferences

688
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: is similar to podcast conference in the clown conference together

689
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: the end, it's just going to the end. That would

690
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: be when the party goes down. Clowns actually know how

691
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: to party. I believe that complicated strange individuals. And I

692
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: say that as a complicated strange individual So yeah, I

693
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: think we are all on that page here, lots of

694
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: to day but I feel like that's a lot of

695
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: actors in general. They're just so vibrant and personality and

696
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: just the way they think. It's different from probably who

697
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: is very analytical. And I'm like, what is hell? And

698
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: that's okay, and like actors find opportunities. I'm like, yeah, okay,

699
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: that made sense. I wouldn't have seen that a punchline scramble.

700
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: You have your Oh yeah, she's got bags of crops. Wait,

701
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: you have a whole bag and no, but you know

702
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: I have love call it my bag of props. Scott

703
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: at least a tutor and a squeaker and tutor and

704
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: a squeaker here, So fist bump me. So this is

705
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: one of our this is one of our big things. Cute.

706
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: It will blow a child's mind, I guarantee you. And

707
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: so we can take this and we can fist bump it,

708
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: or we can through the magic of clown we can

709
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: get a little off our nose and then put it

710
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: in different places, and so then like the kid's elbow

711
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: will be squeaky, or the kids stuffed animal will be squeaky.

712
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: And the best is when they start trying to like

713
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: kids don't have especially young kids don't really know their

714
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: own strength, or you don't know about um gently touching

715
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: things unless you're like gentle gentle. So if you put

716
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: the squeak on their nose and you take their nose,

717
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: quite often they will mash their nose so hard, and

718
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm just like baby, no, no, no, no, no oh.

719
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 1: And I should also say, as an addendum, I used

720
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: to when I used to hear children crying, it would

721
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh my gosh, let me go. Now,

722
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: anytime I hear a child in distress, I'm immediately drawn

723
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: to it and I want to figure out how I

724
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: can help. Um, it's really it's a sea change and

725
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: it's one eight. I'm just like, I'm like, hey, let

726
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: me just dap bars for you, But don't do. I

727
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: was gonna say so when you see like kids that

728
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: are staring at you at the airport, you're actually putting

729
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: on a whole show. Everybody else is a little like

730
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: trying not to look at a kid. Sometimes we have

731
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: a thing called check your shoes, um, which is essentially

732
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: looked down or you're wearing your clown shoes. So if

733
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: we're not on our shift, we're just normal humans, which

734
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: means well, okay, normal, but this is just some strange

735
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: middle aged lady who's making googoo faces at your baby

736
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: and trying to fist bump your two year old. And

737
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: it's so there. There's sometimes where I and then if

738
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: you try to explain to them after words, I'm sorry,

739
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: like like, oh no, I'm I'm a hospital clown. That

740
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: it just gets weird. That's not the it's not the

741
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: right in like self you okay, yeah, yeah, I mean,

742
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: and it's right. You know. I am a big fan

743
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: of parents, you know, guarding their right from strange. But

744
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: I just I mean, kids zero in on our faces though.

745
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: It's like they know that we're people are elves to

746
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: play with kids at restaurants, so they try to make

747
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: eye contact. I just know this is a person will

748
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: play with me. Yeah. So we have squeakers, we have bubbles,

749
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: we have magic tricks. We have uh, I do a

750
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: bunch of different bubble tricks and uh we also have jugglers.

751
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I love jokes. I love terrible jokes. They're my favorite.

752
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: Good puns, Oh lovely, we'll play a pun game once

753
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: these mics are off, because it's not it's not entirely

754
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: family friendly. Um, but yeah, we'll do things like it's

755
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: something called a French pass with these these noses where

756
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, you put it on your finger and then

757
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: you're getting the kid to look at it, and then

758
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: you're making it disappear, right, And then I tossed it

759
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: over to her and then oh, she's got it in

760
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: her pocket, you know, and then then I caught it

761
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: back out and you know, I had a moment, what

762
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: does happen? What does happen? Exactly where to go? So

763
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: it's about learning how to palm things or put things

764
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: in your pockets and uh, and then of course just

765
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: having these stupid funny things like I have these tiny

766
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: hands and I love to put on these things. But

767
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: then you give tiny half hafs, you go tana half five,

768
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: tiny half a small round of applause. Or we have

769
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: ukuleles and I can strom the ukulele with one entire hand,

770
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: and I say that that's classical. We do a lot

771
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: of music, a lot of some of the people on

772
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: our team are really amazing musicians, and everybody on our

773
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: team can really sang. Yeah, really sang. I was gonna say,

774
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: you've been doing some good singing, which I appreciate because

775
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: I do that often. Just on our podcast. I'll just

776
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: randomly sing things out and everybody looks at me funny

777
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: and then tells me to stop because of copyright stuff.

778
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't let them dim your shine.

779
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: Thank you say that it's it's say that it's covered

780
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: under parody. Yeah, don't hide your light under a buch

781
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: know the words of these songs, I'm just humming it.

782
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Just keep it under thirty seconds, and you're right, and

783
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm making up words to it because I forgot the

784
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: actual lyrics exactly that parody Guys, are these things that

785
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: you knew or that you picked up when you got

786
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: into this, like palming and magic tricks exchange. Yeah, And

787
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: it all depends on the on the clown and what

788
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: your background is. I mean, some of our clowns primary

789
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: backgrounds are mime or juggling, or puppetry or improv or acting.

790
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: But I mean not everybody as a comes from an

791
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: acting background. It's really quite a variety. So some people

792
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: came in with you know, magic out the wazoo, and

793
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: then that was great for everybody because uh you know

794
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: Bill Smith, um doctor not right, who's um not on

795
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: our team anymore. Unfortunately he lives in Tennessee also and

796
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: was making the drive an extrema from I mean from

797
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: Gatlin perk. Uh yeah, but he's an amazing magician and

798
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: was very generous about sharing his skills and taught us

799
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: all uh French drop um and if there was anything

800
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: else you wanted to learn, can teach you a card

801
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: force or uh you know, help you improve whatever whatever

802
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: your dumb magic you were working on. And uh Tom

803
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: Pierce is h a brilliant mime and him and Tim Satimi,

804
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: who's another one of our clowns, they're both wonderful mimes,

805
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: and so they've helped work us, you know, when we

806
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: have are rehearsals and stuff, they'll help teach us how

807
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: to do certain mind things. Because one of the great

808
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: things about this is that you are working with someone

809
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: who has a skill set that you don't have, and

810
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: you are finding ways to create bits with them, and

811
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: you're finding ways to make yourself look stupid and make

812
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: them look wonderful, or making them look stupid and make

813
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: you look wonderful, or get the kid on their side,

814
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: or get the kid on your side, or get the

815
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: kid to hate both of you have fun continually kicking

816
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: you out of the room. You know. There there's just

817
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: there's a million different ways to try to find ways

818
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: to blend all of these different skill sets. Um Ron

819
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: Anglin is like a master. There's just Chinese yo yo,

820
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: which is also called the diablo. He it's it's insane

821
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: because it looks like it's going to hit you, and

822
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: it's it's all swinging this thing around and then he

823
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: can make it bounce on it and do all those

824
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: crazy things and and this this is a huge you know,

825
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: it takes up a lot of space, but he'll go

826
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: into a kid's room and do and do it because

827
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: he's got such great control. So it's quite imprest Yeah,

828
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: he's just like and that adds an element of danger

829
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: to a room, which is also exciting, you know, but

830
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: he's a professional, so it's it's been one of those

831
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: uh wonderful joys too. You're you're getting to know all

832
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: of these different partners and uh share jokes and share tricks,

833
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: and come up with different things. One of my things

834
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: lately has been, um, I really love to to draw

835
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: um on the paper towels um, and then maybe I'll

836
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: tear it up and then then they have a puzzle.

837
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: Or I'll make a list that keeps getting longer because

838
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: the paper to spend, paper towel dispense or keeps getting longer.

839
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: So we have to keep writing a list, like, you know,

840
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: advice on how to be a cool teenager, or things

841
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to do once I leave here, or ways

842
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I could improve my outfit. I got that from one kid.

843
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: My kid was like, I don't know, you don't really

844
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: look like a clown. And I was like, okay, cool,

845
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: So what do I need to do? And they essentially

846
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: described Ronald, but it was like bit by bit, like

847
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: red hair, I need to be a man. I love

848
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: using the elements that are in the hospital room like

849
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: that though, like using the paper towels or the gloves

850
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and that's part of we try

851
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: to keep that in the back of our minds also

852
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: because it's part of demystifying the hospital environment for the kids.

853
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: So if we can turn this thing like the glove

854
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: that they're used to having just be put on for

855
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: something scary to happen, or for something uncomfortable to happen.

856
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: If we can turn that into a fish and blow

857
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: bubbles and if the fish went through, then maybe that'll

858
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: be more fun. I was working with Um, one of

859
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: our new clowns, uh Dr Googy, the other day, and

860
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: we were on oncology and there was a woman, Um

861
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: she was crying. It was a mom or grandmother. She

862
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: was crying really hard and talking very quickly into her

863
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: phone in the hall, and she was speaking Spanish, so

864
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: we didn't know exactly what she was saying, which just

865
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: had a little bit of an idea of what she

866
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: was saying. And in oncology, you know, you guys have

867
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of an idea, right Um. So uh

868
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: Googy went and took a paper towel and folded it

869
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: very beautifully into a paper rose, and we didn't say

870
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: anything to her or anything. He just walked by and

871
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: handed her this rose and and we walked on. And

872
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes that's the right kind of moment to

873
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: provide for somebody. And then the next room we encountered

874
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: was this boy about four or five years old, and

875
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: we knocked on the door and he opened it, and

876
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: then he hid behind the door and we looked for

877
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: him a little bit, and then he popped out and

878
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: was like ah and we were like oh yeah. And

879
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: then we just played this for like a while, and

880
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: he kept hiding behind the door and then popping out

881
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: and we would get scared, and eventually he scared us

882
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: enough that we ran off all the way down the

883
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: hall and into a whole another area of the hospital,

884
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: and a few minutes later, a nurse came running to

885
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: us and she was like, Hey, did you go see

886
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 1: room whatever it was? And we're like, um, I think

887
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: we did. And she's like, I think maybe he wasn't

888
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: in the room or something, because they just asked for

889
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: you guys to come come there. And we were like, okay,

890
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: well maybe we had the wrong room or something. I

891
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: don't know. So we went back there and we're about

892
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: to knock on the door and we looked at each other.

893
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, this is this is the kid that

894
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: chased us all the way down the hall. So and

895
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: he opens the door and he says, you'll get y'all

896
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: what's in here? So we looked at each other we

897
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: went okay, we walked to the doorway, we lifted up

898
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: our coats and we just stuck our butts into the

899
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: room and then we ran off. And I'm like, I

900
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: just like, how did we go from like this beautiful

901
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: rose to stick in our butts? Kids? What? What is

902
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: this job? It's so amazing. That's fantastic. We have just

903
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: a little bit more for you listeners, but first one

904
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: more quick break for word from our sponsor. Then we're back.

905
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor. Let's get back to the interview. Kids

906
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: are honest and literal and strange in ways that I

907
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: never really knew. Really did this job, man, there are

908
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: some My kids are the weirdest. They're really cute. The

909
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: weird kids are my favorites. Yeah, there's I mean, and

910
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: there's there are times where you have, uh, you have

911
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: times where you've got to just kind of step out

912
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: and because of maybe things that are going on in

913
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: our personal lives, like uh, like my father was really

914
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: sick at one point, and you know, I was still

915
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: working in the hospital while he was in the hospital

916
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing, and so every now and

917
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: then I just had to be like, just need a second, okay,

918
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: And then you keep going, um, because you're there for

919
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: the kids, um, and that allows you to have even

920
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: more empathy and compassion for what these families are going

921
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: through sleeping in these hospital rooms, you know, um living

922
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: there essentially. Uh And there are kids that come to

923
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: Choa from all over the world, so you're dealing with

924
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: different customs. There are some people that don't know that

925
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: they're allowed to use the bathroom inside the room. You know.

926
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: It's just like there's different culture. Cultural differences, are different

927
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: cultures from within Georgia. You know, you have people coming

928
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: down uh in and they're getting all settled in, you know,

929
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: and there's a whole family, like there's mom, dad, multiple kids, Grandma, grandpa,

930
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: and everybody's posting up for this kid. Then there are

931
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: some kids who don't have anyone right or their parents

932
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: are working so that they can pay these bills, and

933
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: we're the ones who are able to go in there

934
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: and break it up a little bit, just break up

935
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: the time. Or kids who get checked in and then

936
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: are left there. Yea, I mean it happened. Had no

937
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: idea that that happened until like, yeah, I mean what Yeah,

938
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: it's usually kids who have a lot of um technological

939
00:54:52,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: dependence on things like tracks or um, complex medical stuff,

940
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: and the family is just like I can't handle it.

941
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: They can't handle it, and they're like, well, here at

942
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: a place where people will take care of you. And

943
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: then the children are there for months and months and months,

944
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: and the nurses are trying to help them get into

945
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: foster care. And it's a you learn about a lot

946
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: of different realities. So with that, because I'm actually a

947
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: social worker, and one of the things that I always ask,

948
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: because obviously this field is very, very emotionally taxing and impacting,

949
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: how do you care for yourselves like you were saying

950
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: you were having a moment because of the close relation

951
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: with the father, how do you actually take time and

952
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: care for yourself? Well, um, I think we should all

953
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: be better at it than we are, but we do

954
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: as an organization and as a team, we do work

955
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: on that. We work with UH with a therapist, with

956
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist at each of our rehearsals, and we have

957
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: a group therapy. Should we call emotional hygiene. It's another

958
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: type of hygiene, another type of don't just wash your hands,

959
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: wash your brain. Um. And that's another one of the many,

960
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: many reasons that we work in pairs always A lot

961
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: of that is about artistry and safety as well, but

962
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: it's also about um having a shared experience with somebody

963
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: if you need to be able to talk about it later.

964
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: We also spend thirty minutes at the beginning of each

965
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: day while we're getting in costume and mentally preparing for performance,

966
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: checking in with a partner about where they are emotionally

967
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: and the most recent experiences they've had in the hospital.

968
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day there's another thirty

969
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: minutes to um d clown and debrief emotionally about the day.

970
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: And everybody's always also open to receiving calls from each

971
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: other if you feel like you need to call somebody

972
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: to talk about something weird, because I know, like my spouse,

973
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: my husband doesn't want to hear about about it, you know.

974
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: So some spouses are great about it, but it's it's like,

975
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: it's very weird to talk to somebody about it who

976
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have this, you know, if they don't want to share, right. Yeah,

977
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: So we try to help each other. It's a strange thing.

978
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: And theoretically we all do yoga and meditated and chicken

979
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: wings and drink beer. One way to do it. Yes,

980
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: why I like that. I think we're all very we're

981
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: very lucky, um, and that we because of the type

982
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: of work we do, we're all okay with being vulnerable

983
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: with each other. And that's a whole essence of Clown's vulnerability.

984
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: We're able to look at something, you know, look at

985
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: this and be like, you know, this really messed me up, UM,

986
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: and I need I need to just say these words

987
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: out loud about what this is, you know. And you know,

988
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: we do develop relationships with kids long term, um, who

989
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: are waiting for transplants, or or who are waiting to

990
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: be put into foster care, or who are going through

991
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: cancer treatments, and sometimes we lose them, right, and that

992
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: is very hard, UM, because I mean, you know, we're

993
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: there to be silly and goofy, but you also know

994
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: that if you're walking into a hospital, you're also going

995
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: to be dealing with mortality. UM. So you just try

996
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: to do the best that you can and remember those

997
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: kids who have moved on. And some two kids are

998
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: so inspiring, like they are so resilient, and it's just

999
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: they're ridiculouting, They're ridiculous, they're wonderful. They're just like this kid,

1000
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: there's one little spitfire of a girl who like, um,

1001
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: like English is in her first language. But she's been

1002
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: like in and out of all of these uh different

1003
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: treatments and stuff. And I see her in one hospital,

1004
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: then I see her in another hospital, then I see

1005
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: her in day surgery and all this kind of stuff.

1006
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: And she will let you know what she will wants.

1007
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: She wants. They get to know you. They learned that

1008
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: they can boss you around, and that's awesome. She'll look

1009
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: at you and she'll go show me a trick, and

1010
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about this one. I've already seen that one,

1011
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: Like you go over here, you go over there, you

1012
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: go over here, what's in your pocket? And she comes

1013
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: up and she's like, face first into your indier jacket.

1014
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: I carry a Fannie pack now, and she's like, what's

1015
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: in this? Open it? Open it. She'll start on zipping

1016
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, but of course it's full

1017
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: of really stupid stuff. So that's perfectly everything that she wants. Yeah,

1018
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: but she's you know, like the last time that I

1019
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: saw her. One of my gags that I like to

1020
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: do is they have these big it's it's like marketing

1021
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: material that Shoa has that look like giant phones, and

1022
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: so I always carry them with me and I'm like, hey,

1023
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: what's up and so so or I pretend to I

1024
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: can't unlock the screen because it's paper, and so I

1025
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: have to give it to a teenager. Um, you know,

1026
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: it's paper thin, unbreakable. Uh, So I gave this. Uh,

1027
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: I gave one to her, and then I had one

1028
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: and we were talking to each other and like, hey,

1029
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: how are you doing. I'm fine, doing all right, And

1030
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: she grabs my hand and while her mother is talking

1031
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: to a social worker, she and I walk up and

1032
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: down the hall, just having a conversation, not looking at

1033
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: each other, but holding each other's hand. And her hand

1034
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: is so tiny, and she's been through so much crap,

1035
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: but she still is going to boss me around and

1036
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: she still wants to have this imagination thing. So I say,

1037
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: you take that one home with you and then you

1038
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: can call me on the phone when you want, you know.

1039
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 1: So it's I don't know, it's awesome, Like I don't

1040
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: want to I still don't want to have kids, but

1041
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: I consider all the kids at the hospital to be

1042
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: my kids. I understand you completely. Yeah, they're so awesome.

1043
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: We had there was this time. Um, when Gina and

1044
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: I we were going to uh into a waiting area

1045
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: or the playroom. I guess in rehab. Rehab is one

1046
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: of the places that I feel like we can really

1047
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: do a lot of a lot of good. It's really tough,

1048
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: but it's we're very grateful to be there. Yeah. Uh.

1049
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: And we were going in there and there was a

1050
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: girl who was on a stand up um wheelchair and

1051
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: she was painting at this table. She was probably about three,

1052
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: and another girl sitting on the floor who was also

1053
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: probably about three, and she was playing with something. She

1054
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: had something between uhl between her legs. She was playing

1055
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: with it and Uh. I looked at her sleeve, like

1056
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: her right sleeve, and it was empty. And I was like, Okay,

1057
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know if she would if it was she

1058
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: had her arms strapped in for healing purposes or something,

1059
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: or if she didn't have an arm. Um. And I

1060
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: saw Gina getting ready to blow some bubbles, which is

1061
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times our first entree for some for kids,

1062
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: and uh and I looked more closely at this little

1063
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: girl on the floor and she had shifted a little bit,

1064
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: and uh, she didn't have an arm on the left side. Either,

1065
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: and her arms weren't weren't strapped to hers, she wasn't

1066
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: didn't of any braces or anything like that. She just

1067
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: didn't have arms. And I had this moment where I

1068
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, are we about to blow some

1069
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: bubbles for a little girl with no arms who wasn't

1070
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: gonna be able to you know, fingerpop. But I was like, well,

1071
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: here we go. So I kept playing ukulele and Gina

1072
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: got out her bubbles and um. The little girl who

1073
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: was painting threw down her brushes and she lit up.

1074
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: She had both a finger on each hand point her

1075
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: fingers just pud popping those bubbles. She couldn't be happier.

1076
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: And the little girl on the floor she looked up,

1077
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: big smile on her face and just took her foot

1078
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: and went you and just kicked the shut of those

1079
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, And it was just this amazing moment. And

1080
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: we walked out of there, and Gina was like adaptability, Man,

1081
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: It's just like wow, I mean, that's the kind of

1082
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: thing where those kids just you're like, you are inspiring.

1083
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: She had like one of those little fake car consoles

1084
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: in front of her with like the wheel, and I

1085
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: saw that she was hitting the buttons and kind of

1086
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: turn her the wheel a little bit. As an she

1087
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: was amazing, She was flexible, she was accurate, and she

1088
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: blew my as mine and it was wonderful already she

1089
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: had those and like that. Yeah, but it's you know,

1090
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: if if you meet people where they are, uh, and

1091
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: you go in there ready to not judge and not

1092
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: make anything weird and don't assume. I'm glad we didn't assume.

1093
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: So coming back, obviously we are stuff I'll never told

1094
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: you of very female focus or those who identify as female.

1095
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: And one of the ideas behind the clowns was we

1096
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: don't hear too many about female clowns in history, as

1097
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: in fact, we were talking about one list only listed

1098
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: off like maybe six out of one as that's famous.

1099
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: How does as women in clowning, what do you see

1100
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 1: some of the difficulties that you might have run into

1101
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: non to COULTI is that you may have been into

1102
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: roadblocks that you are past or getting past or any

1103
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: of those situations. Um, well, I think we're fortunate on

1104
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 1: our team that we have several women now, which is great.

1105
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: It didn't always used to be that way, but um,

1106
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: we've got strong women. But I think you're always there's

1107
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: always a little bit in the back of your mind.

1108
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: Is because clowning is has such a relationship to comedy

1109
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: that you have to get over that hump of women

1110
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: aren't as funny as men, or like chicks aren't funny

1111
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, which is so Gina is so funny. I'm hilarious, guys,

1112
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: I make myself least that's enough, right. Um. I not

1113
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: to uh put too much energy into the tutor, but

1114
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: one thing that I found when I first started my

1115
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: clown was really different. When I started, I was a

1116
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 1: lot younger guys, and uh, and I was a little

1117
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: bit more feminine and cute and um, you know, some

1118
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: of the stuff we could do back many many years ago,

1119
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: we don't do now. Like I would never flirt with

1120
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: anybody at the hospital, but back you know, back then

1121
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,959
Speaker 1: it was the clowns could flirt and it was cute

1122
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: and funny. Anyway, I digress. Uh, But I carried a

1123
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: tutor because some of the guy clowns had tutors, and

1124
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: I thought toots were funny because they are because they're um.

1125
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: But the general gag for the mail clowns would be,

1126
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, they dropped something on the floor and then um,

1127
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: they go to pick it up and they too as

1128
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: they're picking it up, and I was like, I could

1129
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: do that, um, And you know, I tried it, but

1130
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't funny, like I don't know what.

1131
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the fluffy skirt or

1132
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: the piggy tails or what it was. But it was

1133
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: almost like my audience was just two concerned that maybe

1134
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: that really happened, and they felt you were worried and

1135
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: embarrassed for the for the cute little girl clown who

1136
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: maybe just too did um. And I was like, come on,

1137
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: God's funny. So you know, I kept trying to figure

1138
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: it out and but it wasn't really working for me.

1139
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: And then I was walking with my partner back to

1140
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: the dressing room one day and there were some um uh,

1141
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: some staff folks standing around, and I went up to

1142
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: this guy and I was like, um, hey, man, ah,

1143
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: does does this sound real? M? And there was this

1144
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: silence and then they all just cracked up laughing, and

1145
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, because there are other ways to

1146
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: use I don't have to toote like my partner toots

1147
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: like right. And so then I found a whole bunch

1148
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: of different ways to use a tutor for various contests

1149
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: and even just like interrupting my partner constantly, and if

1150
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: I do it enough, then people are very clear that

1151
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: it was a joke. Got yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh,

1152
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, for me, that's one one thing I guess

1153
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: I had to realize is that there are things that

1154
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: are that are socially constructed to be more inappropriate for

1155
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: women in general than for men in general, and that

1156
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: finding ways to overcome that, uh the way a female

1157
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: can is really fun. And that in trying to learn

1158
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: how to be a clown, I don't have to learn

1159
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: how to be a guy clown. I have to learn

1160
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: how to be my clown. Oh guys, that rhymes. I

1161
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: gotta write that downs the tagline for your life, right,

1162
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: that clown. I I come from the improv world, which

1163
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: is traditionally been very male dominated. Um and uh, you

1164
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: know improv in theater. Um. I work at Dad's Garage

1165
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: theater in town. Um. And that has also gone through

1166
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: kind of a major change with bringing more women and

1167
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: more diversity and that kind of stuff into the fold.

1168
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: But you do still run up against these societal buffers.

1169
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: And one thing that I've really enjoyed with my clown

1170
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: is that I make her she is so dumb, and

1171
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: she's so energetic, and she's so ready to party and

1172
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: like kick up her foot and be ridiculous. Um. So

1173
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of I'm playing at the child's level in

1174
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Um. But I also, you know,

1175
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: I like to do like little stand up routines, you know, uh,

1176
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: and say terrible, terrible jokes. Um. But I there there

1177
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: is that dichotomy of like, you know, being feminine because

1178
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: I have one of my dresses I have is as

1179
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: my new one I love. It is all pink and

1180
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: it has angry cat faces on it. Man, it's so great. Um.

1181
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: But that you can be feminine and wild and rampunctious

1182
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: and looking to get into trouble. Um. But it's it's

1183
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: a you know, there's also you know, talking about like

1184
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,440
Speaker 1: how culture progresses, right, so things that were once appropriate

1185
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: in comedy are no longer really appropriate in comedy. Um.

1186
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: That also sort of goes for clowns in the sense

1187
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: that people of my parents generation, they knew clowns as

1188
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: like a safe and adorable and they'd be like, oh,

1189
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: the clowns clowns signifies having fun. So sometimes the parents

1190
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: are the grandparents will look at us and be like,

1191
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: oh hooray, but kids, because clowns are not you know,

1192
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: circuses aren't as prevalent anymore. Um, clowning isn't as prevalent

1193
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: anymore in our culture, it isn't other cultures. Um. We're

1194
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: also kind of introducing a foreign concept. Um. We are

1195
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: quite often the children's first clowns. They've never met a

1196
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: clown before. UM. I do believe that in a sense, um,

1197
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: our femininity can work for us. Uh if you have

1198
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: a particularly high stressed room or high stressed child, um,

1199
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: and we're able to come in with a different type

1200
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: of energy. We're not as physically intimidating necessarily, um because

1201
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes our dudes are big, um and uh

1202
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: so we're able to kind of go in there and

1203
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: um possibly have a uh maybe from that child's perspective,

1204
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: this is a safe a safer person. That's not always true.

1205
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we have we have lovely, gentle, wonderful men

1206
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: on our team. UM, and they all are trained and

1207
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: really knowledgeable about making themselves a smaller, smaller or more

1208
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 1: approachable or more gentle. And yeah, so I mean they're wonderful. Yeah,

1209
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: they're they're really wonderful guys. So if you're able to

1210
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: kind of build on that image. Um, but I don't know,

1211
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: like a Punky Brewster is one of my heroes. Um.

1212
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: For you know, I knows they're people out there who

1213
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: don't know who that is. That is that is the

1214
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: crime that people don't know. So nam Fry as Puckey Pruster. Um,

1215
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: yeah right, it's been a hot minute. But she was

1216
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: kind of this awesome I try to take that energy

1217
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: where she is spunky and you know, she wears mismatched

1218
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: things and she's it's the joy of clowning. Um. And

1219
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: we are lucky that, you know, we're not only respected

1220
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: as clowns, but we're respected as uh women in a

1221
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,919
Speaker 1: profession as we go through choa when we're doing checkens.

1222
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: You know. Uh. Also the nursing force, which which is

1223
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: what we interact with the most, is also prevalently women.

1224
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: So we're seeing, uh, we're speaking with a lot of

1225
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: women who are in very tough professional positions. And let

1226
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: me just tell you, guys, anyone who's listening, if you

1227
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: ever have a nurse, you better be nice to that person.

1228
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: They do so much work, they carry so much on

1229
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: their shoulders. They are their heroes. They are literal heroes.

1230
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: I see some of the things that they've had to

1231
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: deal with and they go through it with grace and humor,

1232
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: and I just I look up to them. I idolize them.

1233
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: So don't you be mean, groos, be nice. I agreed,

1234
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: Gene is gonna come get you for real. I won't

1235
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: show up in clown makeup because I don't want to

1236
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: add to any sigma. Please don't do that to me.

1237
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: I'll just be tough. Um. Before we get to like

1238
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: closing out final shoutouts and stuff, do you have any

1239
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: perhaps advice for listeners who might be interested in clowning,

1240
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: or any anything you want to add that we haven't

1241
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: touched on that you think it's really important. Um here

1242
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: the wheels clicking in our head. Well, you know, I

1243
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: feel I could give a whole dissertation, probably because she's

1244
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: a nerd, but I really think that one of the

1245
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: things that's challenging for us, that I think we could

1246
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 1: ask of everybody is just to keep an open mind,

1247
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 1: um about the idea of clown because for most people,

1248
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: I think it's not what you initially assume, at least

1249
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: here in the United States, Um, the idea of of

1250
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: clowning is really different than it is in Europe and

1251
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: in other places. And the the clown is so um

1252
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: is still a healer and uh and a new way

1253
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: to look at yourself through somebody else, and a way

1254
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: for um, somebody to make mistakes for you instead of

1255
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: you having to do it. And it and is the

1256
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: opportunity for uh an emotional conversation and and for play

1257
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: and fun and whatever it is that somebody needs in

1258
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,440
Speaker 1: any of a moment. And I think that that's really

1259
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: beautiful and that that's the essence of clown And I

1260
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: hope that people will think about that and give that

1261
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: idea a chance. UM. And I think that we're helping

1262
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: to do that and what we do because I hope

1263
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: so too, UM, because it's so it's so special. So

1264
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: and remember that we're just people. I think. You know,

1265
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: we've had these conversations with some adults who are, uh,

1266
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: like I'm afraid of clowns, or some kids who hear

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: that because they've heard their adults say that. You know, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we'll do like noses off or something

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Speaker 1: like that. And just say I'm just I'm just a

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Speaker 1: person who likes to make you laugh, um or who

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Speaker 1: likes to be there if you're interested in it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are so many wonderful resources now to to study

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Speaker 1: um clowning and different places check out, you know, like there,

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01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: what does clowning look like in other cultures? Looking at

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: some of our physical comedy grades like Buster Keaton, I'm

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01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: going and watching some of his old stuff because that

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: stuff is still hilarious today. And Chaplin and Bill Irwin

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Speaker 1: and then such a dream about women. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you look at Annie fred Alini and um Karenda Santos,

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Speaker 1: you know there's some great even Carol Burnett. I mean

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Speaker 1: she has a lot of clown in Lucille ball, but

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Speaker 1: I mean physical comedy and clowning. I would consider those

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Speaker 1: ladies absolutely, So, you know, go out and do your

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01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: research and see and go train in the studio. Go

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Speaker 1: to New York and take a watkshop with one of

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Speaker 1: the great come. I don't don't go to Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: to Florida. I don't know there was Florida, Florida in

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Speaker 1: the story. Go to see Florida Man. Florida man will

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: always help you. I don't know. I think that the

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: idea is to the more well rounded you can be

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01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: as a performer and as a person, the better a

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: clown you'll be. So immerse yourself in books and in history,

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: and uh, learn a couple of fart jokes. Um, you

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: know what advice that's gonna and then they go, maybe

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01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: learn a couple, learn a couple of songs. My mom

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Speaker 1: is not proud of him. Um, yes she is. You're wonderful,

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Speaker 1: but got to different places, Like you know, there are

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Speaker 1: still things that exist, like Eddie's Trick Shop. You know,

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 1: these awesome like little magic stores, you know. Or I

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01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: love costumes, et cetera. As another great resource in Atlanta

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: where you can go in and like when I was

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: a kid, I used to go into Spencer's Gift and

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01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: buy like like the snapping gum, or like the can

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01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: of peanuts with the snake in it. I've always been

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 1: a goofy weirdo. I taught myself in triloquism as a

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Speaker 1: child because I thought it might make me popular. Uh

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Speaker 1: it didn't. It was Montgomery, Alabama, and I was already

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Speaker 1: weird enough. And then I buried that memory until I

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01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: needed it as a professional twenty years later and monologue.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so. I mean it's I would say, building on

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Speaker 1: what Maya said, the thing that will make you a wonderful,

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: bankable performer is the thing about you. It's that it's you,

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01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: It's what you're bringing to the table. You know. So

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Speaker 1: maybe you don't want to work in a hospital, but

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: there are innumerable other ways that you can use the

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Speaker 1: art of clown to engage people and to bring joy.

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: Because guys, I don't know if you notice, but the

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Speaker 1: world is a little bit of a garbage fire right now.

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Speaker 1: Things are really scary. So anyway that we can bring joy,

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: uh and comfort and connection to other people is just

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Speaker 1: it's the best. That's lovely. I'm so glad we we've

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Speaker 1: got to have you both on here because I feel

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Speaker 1: like I have learned a lot, and I hope that

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Speaker 1: listeners will we'll learn a lot and appreciate this perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yes for sure. Yes. So, um how can people find you, Maya? Yes? Um,

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Speaker 1: so you can good to our website, which is Humology

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Speaker 1: Atlanta dot org. We fancy y'all dot org, and you

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01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: can feel free to contact us there. But I think

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Speaker 1: probably especially for more of you, younger folks. If you

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Speaker 1: want to get us on the facebooks, um or Instagrams

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: or Instagrams, say this right. So on Facebook we are

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Speaker 1: Humorology Atlanta. Ha, so come check us out there. On

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Speaker 1: Instagrams we are Humorology Atlanta. All one word chase chases

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Speaker 1: don't matter. Um. And we have some videos not on

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01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: our YouTube channel as well if you want to check out. Yeah, yes,

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: totally go check that out. I will definitely link it

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Speaker 1: to the episode when we published this for sure. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know when you guys are publishing this, but

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Speaker 1: if if you're publishing it before September twenty one, we

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: are having a huge performance. All of our clowns are

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01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: performing on you come. Yeah, you guys want to come,

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01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: You're invited. Um. There's going to be everything from diablo

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: to some hilarious dancing, traditional clown bits, um less traditional

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01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: clown bits, juggling, singing, singing, um, you name it, just

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01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: plouting around. And it's proud of you for saying that.

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01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: It's our annual fundraiser and all all proceeds go to

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Speaker 1: help bring more joy to people in need of joy.

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Speaker 1: Where's it at? It is at Holy Innocence Episcopal school

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Speaker 1: in their performing Arts center. It's in Sandy Brinks. Yeah,

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01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: it's actually like super nice guys. It's really cool. Yeah,

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: someone somewhat fancy. Yeah all right, and there's free parking.

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01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: It's totally air conditioned, great place, adult beverages. You can't

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01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: church place. I just realized that I need to go home.

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01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: You need to com catholic. I mean, they drink a

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Speaker 1: lot of while totally recommend that you that you pre party,

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01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: but we will got a pre game. I kind of forgot.

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Speaker 1: There's also kids clown Okay, all right, so everybody's mocktails

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Speaker 1: for all the class. Oh cool, perfect, It'll be super fun,

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Speaker 1: I promise. So that brings us to the end of

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Speaker 1: this episode, this interview. We hope you enjoyed it as

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Speaker 1: much as as we did. And I just found it,

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Speaker 1: like we said, really inspiring. And also I just I

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Speaker 1: hadn't thought about it in that way. And as they said,

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Speaker 1: they actually do have an event Saturday if you happened

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01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,520
Speaker 1: to be in Atlanta, and that sounds like an amazing,

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01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: amazing event September twenty one, twenty nineteen, So of course

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Speaker 1: you have depend but if you're listening as it's coming

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Speaker 1: out and you're around Atlanta and you have you know,

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01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: you want to support something amazing. They're doing a great benefit.

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Speaker 1: Um will definitely put a link to that or at

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Speaker 1: least linked to their website to do that. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: um yeah, definitely check that out. And uh, we would

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Speaker 1: love to hear from you listeners. If you have any

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Speaker 1: clowning stories of your own, you can email us at

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01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: Stuff Media, mom Stuff at iHeart media dot com. You

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01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast or

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01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: on Instagram at stuff I've Never Told You. Thanks as

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01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: always to our super producer Andrew Howard, and thanks to

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01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 1: you for listening Stuff I've Never Told You the protection

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01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio's how Stuff Works. For more podcasts

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Speaker 1: from my heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.