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Speaker 2: It's become a popular thing to do in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Blame the media, and it's a hard thing to do

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Speaker 2: when you're in the media, but we'll give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: How about that? At least that's from my perspective. Welcome in,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin in for Ephram Salam along here with Mark

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Speaker 2: Willard on a beautiful Fox Football Sunday, the Final Sunday,

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Speaker 2: the Final Sunday where we are not going to be

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Speaker 2: breaking down all the NFL that has just poured out

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Speaker 2: on our television sets. Good evening to you, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well, you know, and you know this because

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Speaker 1: you've done this for a long time, just like I have.

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Speaker 1: I think at some points you get to a level

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Speaker 1: where the summer you don't really call it the dead

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Speaker 1: period anymore because you can find things. And I do

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Speaker 1: think this summer was more interesting than some in terms

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Speaker 1: of storylines to follow in the sports that were happening

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Speaker 1: and some of the off the field happenings in football.

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Speaker 1: That said, this is where it becomes stealing money for

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Speaker 1: what we do because college football where I am in Nashville,

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Speaker 1: obviously is king. The NFL is king of the world,

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Speaker 1: at least as it relates to North America and especially

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Speaker 1: here in America. And we're about five days away now

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Speaker 1: from getting that kicked off, so man, actually four days

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Speaker 1: away from getting the first game kicked off on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: So it is just it's here, like all of the

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Speaker 1: off time, everything is over, and I am super excited

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Speaker 1: to have a Number five versus Number eight matchup on

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Speaker 1: the screen in front of me. That's live. It's not

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Speaker 1: like a tape delayed thing from three years ago that's

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Speaker 1: running on SEC network right now. Just very very excited

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Speaker 1: that we have football to talk.

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Speaker 2: About, no doubt about it. In fact, I went on

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Speaker 2: a Cubs podcast earlier this morning because the Cubs and

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Speaker 2: Giants are about to have a little wildcard matchup in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: and I almost had to apologize to him. I'm like, look,

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Speaker 2: we'll sit here and talk this out all you want,

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Speaker 2: but you're going to promote the show that I do

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Speaker 2: during the week in San Francisco. And I had to

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Speaker 2: tell them, I go, I don't know that this series

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Speaker 2: is even going to get talked about on my show

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Speaker 2: when it gets back on Tuesday. After the holiday because

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Speaker 2: football football, and hell, we've had a hard time in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco talking about anything other than the quarterback position,

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Speaker 2: let alone another team. Let alone another team, as the

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Speaker 2: Niners and Steelers are now seven days away, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to get into all of that the football preview

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Speaker 2: I told you I also do some work of the

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve network, and I was there all day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The Pac twelve has not lost a game yet. They

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Speaker 2: have the most interesting story in all of college football.

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Speaker 2: He goes by the name Coach Prime. And I sat

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Speaker 2: there and thought to myself, as I as I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: there watching all the games and talking about it, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it would be the most packed twelve thing

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Speaker 2: ever to finally have a breakout season. And you got

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, and you've got Coach Prime, and you've got

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Speaker 2: all of these things that are going to be unbelievable

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Speaker 2: for Pac twelve and have it all come together the

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Speaker 2: season they've been waiting for, only to watch everybody walk

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Speaker 2: as soon as it's over.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's unreal actually because I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: laid that a couple of things, but I mean, you

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Speaker 1: got Bo Nicks, You've got Michael Pennox junior, You've got

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Speaker 1: dj Ullangilila, You've got all of a sudden, there are

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Speaker 1: marquee names at the marquee position in American team sports,

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Speaker 1: all in your conference. And it's a lame duck year

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Speaker 1: before everybody he heads somewhere else. Like it's it's astonishing

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Speaker 1: and it feels almost unfair. But I mean you're you

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Speaker 1: know it as well as anybody else. Pack twelve us

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Speaker 1: to blame because they got caught with flat feet. Well,

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Speaker 1: other people were doing things, man, Scott just really set

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Speaker 1: you guys up for disaster.

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Speaker 2: The series of moves that led to this moment are

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Speaker 2: are unfathomable, absolutely unfathomable. And so you're right, the opportunities

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Speaker 2: and h and and I think that will that will

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Speaker 2: go down as the legacy. But as we sit here today,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of joy in the room because

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Speaker 2: the number one story was Coach Prime and I mentioned

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Speaker 2: when we hit air just about five minutes ago. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's difficult to do the popular thing and blame the

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Speaker 2: media when you're in it. But I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: give a crack at it here because here's one thing

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Speaker 2: I noticed, and we'll play it for you in a

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Speaker 2: minute if you missed it. But Coach Deon Sanders got

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Speaker 2: into the postgame press conference room after the upset of

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Speaker 2: TCU yesterday forty five to forty two, absolutely incredible game,

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Speaker 2: and his son is out there throwing for five hundred

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I nay that the day I knew they

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Speaker 2: Before yesterday, they had just over two thousand yards passing

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Speaker 2: ten yesterday. Coach Prime son out there doing the darn thing.

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Speaker 2: But take a listen to what Dion did when he

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Balls you believe now? Hold on, hold on, hold on, no, no,

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Speaker 3: do you believe in that?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no no, I read through that. Bull Joki

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Speaker 4: wrote that, I read through that.

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Speaker 2: I sipped it through all that.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, come on, do you believe?

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Speaker 2: You don't believe? You just answered it.

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Speaker 1: You don't believe?

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Speaker 2: Next question, Okay, do you believe now? What I've watched

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Speaker 2: is many of the brothers and sisters in our industry

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Speaker 2: Jason sort of not want to get loud about this

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Speaker 2: because they know that what Dion did yesterday was very,

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Speaker 2: But a lot of the media is uncomfortable with that

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Speaker 2: because you'll hear people say it is not the media's

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Speaker 2: there's also there is I think an evolution of our

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Speaker 2: business that's a little different. Now. If Dion was pulling

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Speaker 2: you believe now? And their job is literally to be like,

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Speaker 2: we're just talking about like who the backups are, Like,

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Speaker 2: we actually are. Jason, I want to have Coach Primes

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Speaker 2: in you. Well, then what is your job? Is it

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Speaker 2: your job to create the lack of belief? Is it

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Speaker 2: your job to write negative things? Is it your job

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Speaker 2: to share your opinion, whether positive or negative, about where

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you, first of all, I think that,

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Speaker 1: and I have said this for years, Mark. I think

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Speaker 1: and they predict a lot of things, especially negative things,

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Speaker 1: because those are the things that get the most attention,

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Speaker 1: They've gotten used to it on the debate shows, They've

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Speaker 1: their just desserts. They're getting exactly what they should get

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Speaker 2: Well, and by the way, if he ends up being wrong,

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Speaker 2: if they lose the rest of their games this year,

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Speaker 2: you said something. Yeah, you said something interesting there. With

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Speaker 2: if you lose the games, you get fired. Now it's

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Speaker 2: for media, Like, I don't think people should be fired

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Speaker 2: for being wrong. No, it's right. It's completely okay to

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Speaker 2: just kind of gets swept under the rug. But I

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Speaker 2: Like it's changed, and it's not because of any one person,

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Speaker 2: one outlet, even one form of media. It has changed.

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Speaker 2: I had a beat writer in the NBA tell a

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Speaker 2: pounding out a plain old news story of like happened

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Speaker 2: Do you believe? Now?

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Speaker 2: Like that's all that was, And it put a lot

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Speaker 2: All Right with Jason Martin, Mark Willard, Liventhetireck dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Well the queue that Dion Sanders back up again, because

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Speaker 3: You believe that you hold on, hold on, hold on?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, do you believe in that?

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Speaker 4: He wrote that, I read through that, I sipped it

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Speaker 1: Nothing, nothing at all. I mean, it's just it's two adults.

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Speaker 1: not because he's going to hold a grudge or anything

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Speaker 1: It's not that journalist's job to believe in Colorado. It's

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Speaker 2: Once once you become that, well then you're spitting out

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Speaker 2: see you later. Journalism because I like bye, because I

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Speaker 1: with rooting interest. Now it's true over time they can mute.

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Speaker 1: If you go out of a market and you start

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Speaker 1: covering a team or you're covering a conference, sometimes those

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Speaker 1: interests diverge a little bit here and there. I can

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Speaker 1: understand it from that perspective, But it's not like I

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Speaker 1: came into sports talk radio and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: forgot that I grew up scoring Atlanta Brads games with

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Speaker 1: my dad when he was umpiring. Like all of these

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Speaker 1: things are part and parcel of what brought me here

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Speaker 1: in the first place. And I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be objective. There are people that

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Speaker 1: can do that. I can be objective about a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff, and when it comes to sports, I'm incredibly

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Speaker 1: passionate and hopefully that comes through based on the work

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Speaker 1: that I do. But when you come to listen to me,

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Speaker 1: you know you're going to get my opinion, which is

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Speaker 1: just another in a sea of opinions, including the listeners themselves,

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Speaker 1: And you can take those and you can weigh those

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Speaker 1: wherever you want. And if I turn out to be

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Speaker 1: wrong about an athlete, especially one that knows me. I

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Speaker 1: actually would hope that that person would say, yeah, good

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Speaker 1: call on saying that I was going to blow it here.

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Speaker 1: It's like, right, absolutely, you know what got that one wrong.

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Speaker 1: My job was to state an opinion. Yours is to

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Speaker 1: play a game. My opinion about the game that you

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Speaker 1: were gonna play turned out to be wrong. So for

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Speaker 1: you to come back at me, absolutely right. I'll take

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Speaker 1: the l on this one. Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, exactly. By the way, I didn't know you're

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Speaker 2: a Braves fan. I just want to let you know

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Speaker 2: you don't need to root this year. They don't even

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Speaker 2: need your help. God, they're goodee, good lord. You know,

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Speaker 2: just got an up close look at them twice in

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Speaker 2: the last two weeks, and that lineup is absolutely unending.

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Speaker 2: Just in what a team, Holy smokes, just incredible. And

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Speaker 2: speaking of incredible, here comes Steve Desinger. How about that.

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Speaker 2: Let's get our guy in here. Wow, find out what's

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Speaker 2: trending out and about, especially with that big college football

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Speaker 2: game that, as Jason mentioned, is going on right now.

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Speaker 7: Hello Steve, Hello, gentlemen, it's Jason's on Saturday nights. I

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Speaker 7: told him last night on the air that I feel

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Speaker 7: like every Saturday night we have a new even more

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Speaker 7: amazing Braves and or Akunya stat to pass along because

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Speaker 7: it's been that kind of dream season.

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Speaker 8: It's just silly how good they are.

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Speaker 7: Quite frankly, We'll get to baseball in a moment, but

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Speaker 7: LSU is playing Florida State in Orlando tonight, a top

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Speaker 7: ten college football opener for them. It's early second quarter

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Speaker 7: and it's seven to seven. Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis

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Speaker 7: with a forty yard touchdown pass on a catch and run. Earlier,

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Speaker 7: eighteenth ranked Oregon State was a winner forty two to

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Speaker 7: seventeen at San Jose State as the transfer quarterback from Clemson,

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Speaker 7: dj Uyunglila had five total touchdowns for his new Oregon

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Speaker 7: State team, and at Rutgers, the defense with five sacks.

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Speaker 7: Home team beat Northwestern twenty four to seven. At the

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Speaker 7: US Open in New York tonight, Number one Egas Fiantek

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Speaker 7: will be in action later. Coco Golf won this afternoon

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Speaker 7: in a fourth round match in three sets against Caroline Wosneyaki.

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Speaker 7: At Basketball's World Cup this morning, the US ended the

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Speaker 7: second round with a loss to Lithuania one ten to

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Speaker 7: one oh four, but each team advances to the quarterfinals.

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Speaker 7: Each team was four to oh coming in US Tuesday

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Speaker 7: versus Italy. As for MLB, tonight's Houston a one nothing

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Speaker 7: leader over the New York Yankees in the top of

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Speaker 7: the sixth inning, and until literally just this moment, as

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Speaker 7: it was only one hit for the Yankees and they

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Speaker 7: were getting shut out, They've just hit an RBI double.

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Speaker 8: So there you go.

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Speaker 7: It's one to one Yankees at Houston in the top

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Speaker 7: of the sixth inning, and it's looking like Jordan Alvaiz,

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Speaker 7: who's had in problems, just went down on the warning

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Speaker 7: track in left field and he's got a teammate attending

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Speaker 7: to him at the moment. Dodgers beat Atlanta to salvage

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Speaker 7: at least one game out of the four game series

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Speaker 7: three to one. LA other dudes from the Dodgers that

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Speaker 7: pitcher Walker Bueller's been out all year pitched two scoreless

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Speaker 7: innings at Triple A. That's actually his first outing in

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Speaker 7: fifteen months after Tommy John surgery. San Diego shut out

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Speaker 7: San Francisco four. Now thing here we've started the month

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Speaker 7: of September and the Giants are in a three way

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Speaker 7: tie for the last NL wildcard spot, tied with Arizona

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Speaker 7: and Miami. Miami won its four straight games six '

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Speaker 7: four at Washington Baltimore, one at Arizona eight five. The

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Speaker 7: Orioles first in the AL E still two and a

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Speaker 7: half games over Tampa Bay. Toronto picked up a seven

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Speaker 7: to five win at Colorado Blue Jays, one and a

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Speaker 7: half games out of the final AL wild card spot.

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Speaker 7: Updating at Houston, left fielder Jordan Alvarez slipped on the

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Speaker 7: warning trac dirt and went down in a heap. He's

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Speaker 7: being looked at by a trainer. Now one one game

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Speaker 7: in the six Astro and Yankees back to you.

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Speaker 2: This is how much I respect you, Steve. There was

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Speaker 2: a conversation last hour between Monty Belanos and Dan Bayer

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Speaker 2: about dj Uyungala lay with regard to the pronunciation of

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Speaker 2: the last name. I know America has been working on

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Speaker 2: this now for about three years, right, and I and

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're getting close. But I was listening

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Speaker 2: to them talk and I'm like, boy, like even I

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Speaker 2: And he's now out in the PAC twelve, which means,

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Speaker 2: you know, is the PAC twelve network season starts? I

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Speaker 2: tend to be tight on this, right, I gotta be

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Speaker 2: tight on this. And even I was like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know which one of you are right, because it's no

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Speaker 2: longer about the pronunciation, it's where you want to put

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Speaker 2: the emphosis, right, is it ui ung la lay or

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Speaker 2: is it ungallele?

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Speaker 7: And the silent and like like Tuo's name's not actually.

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Speaker 8: An end in the name, but it's pronounced.

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Speaker 2: But it's in there. And so I could either go

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Speaker 2: to YouTube or I could just listen to Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 8: No no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, like you said it, and I'm like, I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure that's right. It's not it's Uila lay.

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Speaker 7: Yes, And I believe that, right? Can I say to

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Speaker 7: all sports information directors at all schools? One thing that

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Speaker 7: helps out immensely is when you have the player on

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Speaker 7: camera say his own name. It'll take five seconds, put

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Speaker 7: it up online and we'll see it forever. You will

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Speaker 7: be helping thousands.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, why why don't they do that?

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Speaker 1: And sometimes that thing doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, that thing's just got like symbols and letters,

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Speaker 2: and when it comes to a last name like this,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, my god, I'm out of vowels. There's I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like what, I don't know what to do

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Speaker 2: with this just because his letters on a paper, Steve,

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Speaker 2: that is the simplest idea I've ever heard that has

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Speaker 2: not enacted yet. Why not?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's under the umbrella of the NCAA and

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Speaker 7: nobody's in charge. Let's just that's a huge You talked

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Speaker 7: about this in the first segment. Did you not about

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Speaker 7: how the conference goes here and player teams go there? Well,

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Speaker 7: there you go. This is yet another It's a small one,

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Speaker 7: but it's yet another consequence.

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Speaker 2: O wei Ungalle and those Pac twelve quarterbacks, not a

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Speaker 2: one of them have lost a game yet, the conference undefeated.

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Speaker 2: I think I read a stat longest winning streak to

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Speaker 2: start a season by a Power five conference since nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But obviously it's hard to be like yay Packed twelve

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Speaker 2: because it also happened, you know, two days after Stanford

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Speaker 2: and col are now rivals with NC State or something

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: That's insane. Look, I went to n C State for

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Speaker 1: two years. I grew up in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Did you.

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Speaker 1: I ended up graduating from Western Kentucky several years back,

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Speaker 1: But I i grew up in ACC before Florida State

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Speaker 1: was any ACC. Florida State joined and it felt like

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Speaker 1: a big deal and it felt like it made sense.

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Speaker 1: And then we saw the explosion. We saw some things

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Speaker 1: that didn't make nearly as much sense, including Maryland leaving

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Speaker 1: the conference, which I still don't get, and now col

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Speaker 1: and Stanford in the Atlantic Coast Conference, Like that's literally wrong,

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Speaker 1: Like the name of the conference itself would indicate that

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Speaker 1: those two schools wouldn't belong. Obviously that doesn't matter now

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Speaker 1: as it relates to college football. But I don't get

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Speaker 1: any of this, Like it's very difficult, Like watching all

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Speaker 1: of yesterday, just Okay, where are they going to be

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Speaker 1: next year? What's the conference makeup gonna look?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 1: Do we even care at this point? Like is it

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Speaker 1: just basically a pro sport? And even the visions don't exist,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just I understand there's the SEC in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten and then there's everything else, but it's almost

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Speaker 1: I just all right, I know what LSU is. I

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Speaker 1: like LSU in terms of a brand, so I'll watch LSU.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Washington State anymore because they're not

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Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve, which means they're probably not relevant,

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Speaker 1: so I don't really need to watch the Kougs anymore.

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Speaker 1: Stuff like that. The unique nature, the novelty of college

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Speaker 1: football has been completely and utterly decimated, and we hadn't

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Speaker 1: even gotten to the point where it's actually happened yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a great point. I mean, you remember when the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons and the New Orleans Saints were in the

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Speaker 2: NFC West you yea, yeah, yeah, So this feels like that.

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Speaker 2: It feels like we're circling back. And there's much more

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Speaker 2: to say on this, some of the points that you

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Speaker 2: some of you will recognize this. This band, of course

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Speaker 2: is smash Mouth. Hey now you're an All Star and

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Speaker 2: uh and this song and many more son yep want

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Speaker 2: to give a little shout out to Steve Harwell, that

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Speaker 2: is the lead singer of smash Mouth, and it's been

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Speaker 2: announced that amid liver failure, he has entered hospice care

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately only has days to live. They are huge,

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Speaker 2: huge sports fans. Obviously a lot of their music has

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Speaker 2: overlapped with sports. I also get a lot of smash

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Speaker 2: Mouth news because they are huge Bay Area sports fans,

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Speaker 2: and uh, they are not shy about their opinions. And famously,

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Speaker 2: smash Mouth's opinions came up in the San Francisco Giants

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Speaker 2: free agent pitch meeting with Bryce Harper when the band

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Speaker 2: really really wanted him to come, and it was kind

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Speaker 2: of a throwaway line by the Giants executive staff, but

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Speaker 2: they mentioned I don't know if you've seen smash Mouth's opinion,

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Speaker 2: but they made it into that meeting, and obviously it

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Speaker 2: didn't work. Bryce's a Philly, But they're huge sports fans,

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Speaker 2: and so we salute and send our thoughts to the

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Speaker 2: band and the family of Steve Harwell, the lead singer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I hear this song and you think

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Speaker 1: about All Star, you think about I'm a Believer from Shrek.

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Speaker 1: They had a moment in the mid nineties, which is

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Speaker 1: right when I was in high school. So when I

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Speaker 1: hear this, it just takes me right back to North

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Speaker 1: for scythe in Wins to Salem and listening to you know,

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Speaker 1: listening to these tracks once an hour on ninety four

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Speaker 1: to five, the rock Alternative, which I don't even think

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Speaker 1: exists anymore down there. He retired from the band back

649
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: in October twenty one due to health issues. But I

650
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: didn't know this story at all until it was mentioned

651
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: to us during a break that this had happened today.

652
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Speaker 1: So that's just very very sad news.

653
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Speaker 2: Only fifty six years old man, right, Yeah, in incredibly

654
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: incredibly sad news. So we'll send out, we send out

655
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: our best to smash mouth their fans, their family, all

656
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: of that. I know you're keeping an eye on LSU

657
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: and Florida State seven to seven right now, second quarter action,

658
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: Florida State with the ball. We will keep you updated

659
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: on Matt for sure. Steve de Seger will do an

660
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: awesome job on met. But we were talking a lot

661
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: about in that last block about college football and just

662
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: where it sits, and maybe this is a West Coast opinion.

663
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm fully aware of that, and I live in a

664
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: city that is very, very pro sports focused, very pro

665
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: sports focused. There is not a lot of breaking down

666
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: of Cal and Stanford and SC and UCLA and any

667
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: of that. But that said, I've always followed it, I've

668
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: always loved it, and I haven't figured out emotionally what

669
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: to do with this season. I can appreciate what happened

670
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: with Deon Sanders in Colorado yesterday. I can appreciate Michael

671
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Pennock's juniors unbelievable had five touchdown and then sat out

672
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: pretty much the entire second half yesterday. They're really there

673
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: are some great stories here. But I guess the question

674
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm asking Jason, is everything that has happened with this realignment,

675
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: the stripping of rivalries and all of the traditions, is

676
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: that in some ways sort of taking away from this

677
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: college football season. For me? The answer is.

678
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Speaker 1: Yes, I can understand that. I think because of where

679
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I live, I think that could be a regional opinion.

680
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: I still think the SEC because it's still going to exist.

681
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: SEC fans still big timecare. Big Ten fans. I think

682
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: still big timecare the conferences that are going away or

683
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: losing half their conferences somewhere else, I think maybe feel differently,

684
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: but at the same time, we look like, I mean,

685
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: we're watching a relic, and we know we are. We're

686
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: watching the end of what college football was before really

687
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: getting to see what the beginning of college football. The

688
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: next version, the next iteration of college football looks like

689
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: we kind of got an inkling of it with NIL

690
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: and the transfer portal when some of that over the

691
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: last few years, But it's about to change from what

692
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: we grew up watching, what we were trained to watch,

693
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: and of course what we've gotten to watch as adults

694
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: as well. There's a generation that's never going to know

695
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: what these regional rivalries were and what was unique about

696
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: college football, and this season does kind of have a

697
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: ring of I don't know that this is going to

698
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: be relevant in ten years. I have no idea because

699
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: of what's going to change, especially when you look at

700
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: teams that you know are going to be elsewhere next

701
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: year and how is that going to fit in, and

702
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: then schools that are basically going to die in certain

703
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: ways because of some of this realignment and everything else,

704
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: and that is very it's just kind of odd, Like

705
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: watching college football this year is kind of odd because

706
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: we know how big the changes that are coming, Mark

707
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: are going to be and because they're not here yet,

708
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: it's like we're watching this thing that is sort of irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a live Inthetirack dot Com Studios, Mark Weather, Jason Martin,

710
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Speaker 2: and it just I don't it feels so temporary to me,

711
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? It's like I'm on

712
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: vacation and We've reached a rest stop and I'm supposed

713
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: to be excited about the rest stop as opposed to

714
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: the destin nation. That's what this feels like to me,

715
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: because you can't tell me this is the way it's

716
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: gonna stay, right, Like Stanford's volleyball team is not doing

717
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: all of their road games in Florida and North Carolina

718
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 2: like this is. It's just it's not sustainable. So there's

719
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: a lot more to say about this entire picture, and

720
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Speaker 2: we will over the next couple hours get you ready

721
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: for the NFL season as well, and coming up next,

722
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Speaker 2: the two big holdouts that still don't have an answer.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's roll, got a lot to do, not a

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Speaker 2: lot of time to do it. It is our final

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Speaker 2: two hours of this time slot without NFL games to

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Speaker 2: talk about, which will take over starting next Sunday for sure.

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Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. I got a question about

736
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: two major defensive line holdouts in the NFL. We'll get

737
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Speaker 2: to it in a second, but I need to get

738
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Speaker 2: something off of my chest, if you will, Jason, So

739
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Speaker 2: to check out the video of Alante Brown of Michigan State.

740
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Speaker 2: Have you seen this play from yesterday?

741
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I actually just pulled it back up and watched

742
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: it again and watched them get load on the court.

743
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: As you're speaking, Actually I see him loading on the court.

744
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: So Alante Brown. For those of you not familiar with

745
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: the story, special teams play and there are two players

746
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: who come helmet to helmet, and I can't say that

747
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: it looks all that vicious in terms of a hit,

748
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: in terms of what we're used to in football. In fact,

749
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: you could argue that Brown was the one who lowered

750
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: his helmet into the other player. But the moment contact

751
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: is made, it becomes very too a esque, if not more,

752
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: one of those obvious situations when a body locks up.

753
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: It's comfortable to watch. The whole body locks up, the

754
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: arms lock, and the player falls to the ground. Now

755
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: he does not lose consciousness, but it is very obvious

756
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: that this is an incredibly dangerous concussion that has taken place,

757
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: a visible sign, and he has put on the cart

758
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: where his legs are bouncing a little bit. Then he

759
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: has removed from the game on the cart. Why do

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00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: we bring this up because it's unpleasant to talk about. Well,

761
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: he returned to the game, Jason, I'm not kidding. I'm

762
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: not saying this for effect. I think Michigan State should

763
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: be rendered Bowl ineligible immediately. I don't know what it's

764
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: going to take for the whole sport of football to

765
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: just have an ounce of a heart. I'm not here

766
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: to tell you that Tyreek Hill and Joe Mixon can

767
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 2: never play football again. It's going to be It's difficult. Okay,

768
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: not everybody who plays football is going to be a

769
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 2: perfect person. I understand that football is driven by money,

770
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: just like many businesses are. I can wrap my head

771
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: around a lot of things, not this. I just don't

772
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: get it. We've got blue tents on the field, supposedly,

773
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: we've got all kinds of different factors in place to

774
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: protect these people from this exact and we've already now

775
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: reached a point where we're well aware of where this goes,

776
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: why it's so awful, and we have education that we

777
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: never had before, so you can't hide behind anything anymore

778
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: when it comes to this subject. For a play like

779
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: that to lead to a player coming back out into

780
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Speaker 2: the field, no matter what the player thinks, no matter

781
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: what the coach thinks, no matter what anybody thinks. To me,

782
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: is one of the most egregious things I think that

783
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: could happen on a football field. There are a lot

784
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: of questions about how it happened with Tua last year.

785
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: I hated that. Then this one's ten times more obvious

786
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: than that, Like, where is the oversight? Who is protecting

787
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: these kids?

788
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, I think the thing that's most striking

789
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: mark about this video is that he spikes his head

790
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: into the ground and doesn't try to defend himself because

791
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: he's in what's called defencing position, which we learned about.

792
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: If we didn't already know it, I didn't know it

793
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: until the Tua incident, as it was described and talked

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00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: about by multiple medical professionals. After that, I then got

795
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of famili you're with that name, but that's exactly

796
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: the same thing that happened here with a Lante Brown

797
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: and he gets carded off. And I heard melt Tucker

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00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: after the game saying, you know, I'd defend the medical

799
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: decisions made one hundred percent all this other kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I saw Chris Nowinski the Concussion Legacy Foundation say there

801
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: need to be independent doctors on the sidelines. Absolutely agree

802
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: with that. There definitely do need to be people making

803
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: these decisions that have no skin in the game for

804
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: either one of the two teams, that are making these

805
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: choices independently of the game being played and are strictly there.

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00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: From a medical sensible perspective, this is insane to put

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00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: him back in. I mean, even if he was cleared,

808
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: which I have my doubts, let's just say that, but

809
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: there's just no reason to do this, to risk this

810
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: in any way. Oh but he was fine. He was

811
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: in good spirits. Yeah, how many football players you ever

812
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: met there? Like, man, no way I can play like that.

813
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: That's not a thing. It's still not thing for most

814
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: people in sports. There's more now that we'll do it,

815
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: but still not a lot. This was not one of

816
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: those kind of murky Well, maybe he was concussed. Maybe

817
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as it looked now. This was

818
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: as bad as it looked now. He leaned in. It

819
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: was not like you said, you're dead right. It was

820
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: not a vicious hit. It was not anything dirty. It

821
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: was just an unfortunate consequence of a physical game. But

822
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: that unfortunate consequence should have resulted in an unfortunate absence

823
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: for at least the remainder of the game for the

824
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: gentleman who was carded off And as you saw him

825
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: hit the ground motionless with his arms in that position,

826
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: that should have been the end. Like, I don't need

827
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Speaker 1: a doctor to then tell me he's cleared to get

828
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: him back in the game. When I see that, Okay,

829
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: his evening's over. There's eventually something has to be bigger

830
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: than sport.

831
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Speaker 2: I don't even know officially what the NCAA rule is

832
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if it hasn't mirrred the NFL. But

833
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: here's what's wild to me. The way the rule is

834
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: written that is automatically illegal. There's no discussion. I wonder

835
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 2: if some of you are listening right now, going, well,

836
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: when we went to the back and the doctor's cleared him,

837
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if there are this is the rule. If

838
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: there are visual signs of a concussion, the day is over.

839
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: Obvious visual evidence of a concussion. The day is over. Period, period.

840
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: It does not matter what a doctor says after that.

841
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: And if you don't think this is visual evidence of

842
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: a concussion, I don't have anything for you. I don't

843
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: know what to say. As you just said the fencing

844
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: position which leads to another blow to the head as

845
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: he goes to the ground and lands helmet to the ground,

846
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: like this is one of those that I truly I

847
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: don't get it. I don't even understand how something like

848
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: this can happen. You know, we see things in football

849
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: that really really drive us nuts right where you're like

850
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: when the driver of the dollar takes something to a

851
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: ridiculous angle. I think, in fact, we already touched on it.

852
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: Stanford and col are in the acc right, Well, that's

853
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: not even their fault. They needed to land somewhere. But

854
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: this is a trickle down effect of the almighty football

855
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: dollar driving something to the realm of ridiculous. As I

856
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: mentioned the volleyball players who went to Stanford and col

857
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: probably because they grew up somewhere on the West coast

858
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: and their parents are thinking, well, this will be great

859
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: because we could travel and watch you play in your games.

860
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: Well not anymore, never again. Like so that's where money

861
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: drives us to the realm of ridiculous. This is where

862
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: money is driving you to the realm of I don't

863
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: know what feels. It feels illegal. It feels illegal to me.

864
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just there's got to be some

865
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: kind of a standard where and I saw look after

866
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: the game, he said, I'm fine, I'm gonna be good.

867
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: He said that on social media. I'll see y'all next week.

868
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't really care what Alante Brown says. Like I

869
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: don't care how Alante Brown says he feels. I mean,

870
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: I care about how he feels. He's not qualified to

871
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: tell me if he's all right. Like last time checked,

872
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: he's in college. He didn't have a medical degree. My

873
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: wife happens to be a doctor. I trust her to

874
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: tell me whether or not my daughter is sick or

875
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: any of her patients are sick. She's got a degree

876
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: that proves it. And I know sometimes degrees don't necessarily

877
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: make you an expert, but I guarantee you there are

878
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: many times that I have been sick and not actually

879
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: admitted to it, or not even known it in the moment.

880
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Here's a guy who, let's say he was concussed Mark,

881
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: and I think we both think that he was in

882
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: that case. And I don't know the severity of the concussion,

883
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know what preceded in his

884
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: life in terms of how many other incidents he's had,

885
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, the condition of his brain and all those things.

886
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: I do know that concussion affects your cognition to a

887
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: degree that you might not even know whether what you're

888
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: answering is right or wrong in the first place. He's

889
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: the last guy's opinion that you would trust in that moment.

890
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: Well, and we also know, and again the education is there.

891
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: Now we know darn well that a concussion, I mean,

892
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: that's almost like coming in contact with someone who tests

893
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: positive for COVID and then five minutes later you take

894
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: a test and you're like, I'm good. Well, no, forty

895
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: eight hours later you might get it like a concussion.

896
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 2: We know, we know sometimes the symptoms are delayed. We've

897
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: had too many stories of people who wake up three

898
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 2: days later vomiting, like we know this stuff. And that's

899
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: why I just can't understand. If you're giving me dick

900
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: but kiss in the seventies, then I understand what the

901
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 2: culture was then, not now, how is this the game?

902
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: How many people? How many grown adults checked the box

903
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: before this kid ended up back in the game. And

904
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: so if it's you know again, the first thing that

905
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: hopped in my mind is bowl eligibility. You don't want

906
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: to talk about that because it penalizes the rest of

907
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: the team. Fine, then fire someone whoever is in charge

908
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: of getting that kid back out in the field. You

909
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: don't get to do that anymore because you failed.

910
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you make you make a good argument. I mean,

911
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: it is tough to try and figure out what you

912
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: do in a scenario like that, But there's got to

913
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: be some kind of penalty. There has to be some

914
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: kind of retribution. There's got to be some kind of

915
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: punishment for putting a young man's life and certainly his

916
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: brain in a circumstance like that for the sake of

917
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: an opening weekend football game against Central Michigan. Like yes,

918
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's the other thing, right, And I know

919
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: that this part doesn't even matter. This wasn't Michigan, it

920
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: wasn't Penn State, it wasn't even that big of a game.

921
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: It was your first game on a Friday night against

922
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: Central Michigan, and you still found a way to get

923
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: this guy back in the game after we saw him

924
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: basically lose the function of his body after a violent

925
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: physical confrontation on a football field. Like that's all you

926
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: really need to say for Central, Like what would have happened?

927
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: What would it have taken to not put him back

928
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: in the game against Ohio State? Would he have had

929
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: to have actually been beheaded? Or would they they have

930
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: still tried to put him out there, just torso and

931
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Speaker 1: legs to see if he could still stop somebody.

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Speaker 2: Slash Match frustrating situation for fans of the Chiefs. For

947
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: fans of the forty nine ers as well, their top

948
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: pass rushers are still sitting on the sideline. There's an

949
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: interesting little way to sort of differentiate the two though,

950
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: but I'll hold on that for a second to ask

951
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: you this, Jason. When a holdout reaches this point, you

952
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: clearly have great players who deserve their dime. Nobody's arguing that,

953
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: and you have in this case, two teams who are

954
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: squarely focused on the goal of winning a Super Bowl

955
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: this year, and they need their best pass rusher on

956
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: the field. Without knowing any of the details of who's

957
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: offering what and what's being turned down, do you automatically

958
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: sort of lean to one side over the other.

959
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: I think we have a tendency, and I don't mean

960
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: we just in media or anything else. I mean we generally,

961
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: as at least those that didn't play. I think we

962
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: often try to blame the player, and I think there's

963
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: maybe inside of us all there there's an inherent envy

964
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: of the money and the power that they already have,

965
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: and we can't really understand or wrap our brains mark

966
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: around that concept of they live in a different world

967
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: than we do, they live in a different universe than

968
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: we do. What they do for a living just can't

969
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: be compared to anything that just about anybody else does,

970
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: and so it's hard for us to form a frame

971
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: of reference. So we're usually like these greedy athletes. I

972
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: feel like that's kind of the general consensus. And as

973
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: I've become more aware of it, working around athletes and

974
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: hearing it from their perspective and kind of seeing it differently,

975
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: I try to look at it more from a case

976
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: by case basis because I don't think that I don't

977
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: think it's helpful to automatically blame the owners every time

978
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: or automatically blame the players each time. And usually there's

979
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: probably some blame to go around in most of these

980
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: scenarios where it's not one hundred percent this side zero

981
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: percent the other side. But I think that oftentimes that's

982
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: a limiting perspective to try and find fault in one

983
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: side all the time because it's usually that way, because

984
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: I just tend to think that's not the case.

985
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you there, but it's interesting you

986
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: went the other way that that I thought you were

987
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: going to go, because I figure and sure, there's a

988
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: lot of different ways you could answer that in terms

989
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: of who I'm talking about, but fans of a given

990
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: team when it comes to someone like let's say Nick Bosa,

991
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: the reigning defensive Player of the year. I was at

992
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: an event less than a week ago where we were

993
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: out amongst our listeners and a bunch of people are

994
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: there in Nick Bosa jerseys. I did not see anyone

995
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: in San Francisco forty nine ers executive jerseys. I didn't

996
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: see that that wasn't there, And so I often see

997
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: a fan base side with the player because it's their player,

998
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 2: that's their guy, and so you start to hear things like, gosh,

999
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: whatever it is, just pay him, just do it, which

1000
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: obviously is not the way business works, and it's not

1001
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 2: a smart thing to do. It does mean that other

1002
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: players will be sacrificed if you do business like that

1003
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: when you've got a good player, especially these rosters we're

1004
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: talking about in this example. Man, they all got a

1005
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 2: lot of good players, lots of good players on these teams,

1006
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: and so there are other people to pay. And and

1007
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 2: you know, if it means that, oh, yeah, you signed

1008
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: up your favorite player, but you lost your other favorite player,

1009
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: maybe maybe that's not necessarily great business. But two situations

1010
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: are fascinating. You look at a little bit of a

1011
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: dichotomy here. Travis Kelsey comes out and says, hey, Chris,

1012
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: we need you here. Now, that's a player sort of

1013
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: siding with ownership. Like I'm always sort of mindful of

1014
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: what we the public here. The nine or Bosa thing,

1015
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: unlike say Jonathan Taylor and the Colts has stayed totally quiet.

1016
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: You don't hear anybody trying to put like like push

1017
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: pressure points to negotiate in the media. You're just starting

1018
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: to hear the first bits and p of it now.

1019
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: When Albert Breer last week has said, well, they're about

1020
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: four million dollars apart, and they've been that way for

1021
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: a while, and he's definitely going to be the top

1022
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: paid pass rusher of all time. Question is is he

1023
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: going to be the top paid non quarterback of all time?

1024
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: That gave us all a little bit of a definition

1025
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: of what the numbers are. Maybe the Niners are around

1026
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: twenty nine, Nicks about thirty three. But you would never

1027
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: hear in this situation you're coming off dpoy. You would

1028
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: never hear a forty nine er player come out and

1029
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: be like, come on, Nick, we got a game next week.

1030
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: You need to be here. So I do feel like

1031
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: there's something about these two situations where maybe the Chiefs

1032
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: locker room is putting a little bit of pressure on Chris.

1033
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: Meantime in San Francisco, the fan base is putting a

1034
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: little bit more pressure on the team.

1035
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: So I think they're different situations. I think you laid

1036
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: that out well. I actually saw Kelsey's comment differently in

1037
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: some ways because I'm trying to understand exactly what Chris

1038
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: jones mindset is at this point, and it seems like

1039
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: he's willing to sit out until week eate. I've seen

1040
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 1: that in a bunch of different reports and things like that.

1041
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: So we know how good Chris Jones is, Like, we

1042
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: don't have to spend any time discussing how important he is.

1043
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: Travis kelce knows how important he is. And look, Travis

1044
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: Kelsey's words carry a lot of clout because he's a

1045
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: walking Hall of Famer, Like he's gonna waltz into the

1046
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame as one of, if not the greatest

1047
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: tight end we've ever seen. When he finally hangs it up.

1048
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: So I look at this and I say, both these

1049
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: two guys know that the statement that Travis Kelcey made

1050
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: is true. They do need Chris Jones. I would argue, Look,

1051
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Nick Posa is worth every penny you want to pay him,

1052
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: and he is phenomenal that forty nine ers defense has

1053
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: some other dudes. The difference in Kansas City is and

1054
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: I think Jones knows this. He knows how bad the

1055
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs need him because he understands how thin they are

1056
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: defensively outside of him, and how important he is. It's

1057
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald knows how important he is to the

1058
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: Rams defense. Chris Jones understands the holes that he helps

1059
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: cover up with his outstanding play, and I think maybe

1060
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: that's part of it. At least that's my theory. Is

1061
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: he's banking on the fact that the Chiefs know, or

1062
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: they're going to realize real fast how bad they need him,

1063
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: at which point he has leverage. And so it's possible

1064
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: to me that Kelsey is in effect mobbing for Chris

1065
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: Jones against the team by admitting what we all know,

1066
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: which is that Chiefs defense desperately does need Chris Jones,

1067
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs need to fix it.

1068
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting because now I've gotten the full paragraph in

1069
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: front of me, let me read it to our audience.

1070
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 2: So and again you can't hear the tone it was

1071
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: on the New Heights podcast with Travis Kelsey and his

1072
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: brother and Travis Kelcey. But I'll read the whole thing

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01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 2: to you before I do that, though, let me log

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: disagreement that the forty nine Ers defense will still be

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01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: a well oiled machine without Nick Bosa. I don't believe

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01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: that it would be. I think that a lot of

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01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: those players are really, really good because of Nick Bosa.

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01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: I think that the other pass rushers are good because

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: they're not getting as much attention. I think the linebackers

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01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: are really good because of how quickly the pass rush goes.

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: Four years ago, the year before the forty nine Ers

1082
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: made the Super Bowl, they had two interceptions as a team,

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01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: two the whole year. Can you believe that? Then they

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01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: drafted Nick Bosa, and I can't remember the number, but

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01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: I think it went to twenty three with the exact

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01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: same group of defensive backs. That's the kind of effect

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Speaker 2: that Nick Bosa has on on this defense. But check

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Speaker 2: this out. You tell me what you hear. Here's the quote,

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01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: written and read by Travis Kelcey. Chris, can you please

1090
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: come back? You're really scaring me, man, I don't get it.

1091
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: You must know something that I don't know, because I

1092
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: just don't get it. I really want to get another

1093
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl ring with you, brother. This is me bargaining

1094
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: you to just come back and play football for the Chiefs. Please.

1095
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 2: We need you. We need you bad. And I don't

1096
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: know what the situation is like that when he says

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Speaker 2: I don't get it, that's what rings in my ear, Jason,

1098
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: because you know how players are. They're not trying to

1099
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: mess with anyone else's money. Like you very rarely hear

1100
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: you're scaring me. You must know something I don't know.

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't get it. You don't get it. He wants

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01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: more money, right, what is there to get here? And

1103
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: you rarely hear a player go there? You know what

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01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean?

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean again, his sentiment is right, we

1106
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: understand how important Chris Jones is to the team. I

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01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: definitely think hearing it all in context, that definitely sounds

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01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: more on your side of that part of the argument.

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01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm looking at it more from Chris Jones'

1110
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: perspective as to what he is trying to accomplish here,

1111
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: or what he knows about himself and his actual value

1112
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: in this deal where he creates leverage that that defense

1113
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: is real bad out of the gates and they really

1114
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: struggle to get pressure on quarterbacks or push O lines backwards,

1115
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: and that gives him, you know, because eventually they're going

1116
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: to come call and say, all right, yet, you're right,

1117
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: we do need you, so how do we fix this?

1118
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: In terms of Kelsey? Kelsey knows they need him, and

1119
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: maybe he is a little bit worried about it because

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01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: he sees in practice that that defense is absolutely flawed

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01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: in so many more respects. Without Christians, I would say

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01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Of course, you're a you know, an

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Speaker 1: expert when it comes to the forty nine Ers. I

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01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: think what you said about Dick Bosa is one thousand

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 1: percent right and makes all the sense in the world

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01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: as you laid it out. I do think that there's

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01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: more talent on the forty nine Ers defense outside of

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01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa than there is on the Chiefs defense outside

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01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: of Chris Jones.

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Speaker 2: I'll agree with that, sure, sure, sure, sure that with that,

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01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: I will agree no doubt. All right, one of these teams,

1132
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: when we talk about the Chiefs and Niners, is playing

1133
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: a team this year where you buy the hype, and

1134
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: one of them is playing against the team where you don't.

1135
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 2: Let's get into that and more on the NFL coming

1136
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: up in a sect. But right now it's Steve Desager time.

1137
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 2: Let's get an update on the big college game and

1138
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: everything else for that matter.

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01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 8: Hello Steve, Hello once again.

1140
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 7: College football with a top ten matchup in Orlando tonight

1141
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 7: and LSU leads at the half the Tigers with a

1142
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 7: thirty six yard field goal on the final play of

1143
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 7: the first half to take a seventeen to fourteen advantage

1144
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 7: over Florida State. Seminoles on the ground eleven carries thirty

1145
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 7: nine yards rushing, LSU over one hundred yards rushing in

1146
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 7: the first half. Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis two touchdowns,

1147
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 7: one interception. Today, eighteenth ranked Oregon State one at San

1148
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 7: Jose State forty two to seventeen. Quarterback dj uyang La

1149
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 7: lay five total touchdowns. The transfer from Clemson and Oregon

1150
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 7: State's star running back from a year ago, Damian Martinez

1151
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 7: eighteen carries one hundred and forty five yards Rutgers twenty

1152
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 7: four to seven over Northwestern. Northwestern scored a touchdown in

1153
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 7: the final seconds after using all three timeouts late to.

1154
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 8: Avoid the shutout. A reminder.

1155
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 7: This Saturday on Fox TV four games starting with Colorado

1156
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 7: hosting Nebraska at the US Open. Cocoa Golf won her

1157
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 7: fourth round match to Major League Baseball. It's bottom of

1158
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 7: the eighth. In Houston, the Yankees are leading the Astros

1159
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 7: three to one thanks to a two run homer in

1160
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 7: the six from rookie Jason Dominguez. By the way, left

1161
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 7: fielder for the Stros, jord Don Alvarez, as his stayed

1162
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 7: in the game despite the slip and fall on the

1163
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 7: warning track. Tonight, Dodgers beat Atlanta three to one, another

1164
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 7: win for rookie Bobby Miller. He's nine to three San

1165
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 7: Diego four to nothing over San Francisco. The Giants are

1166
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 7: in a three way tie for the last NL wildcard

1167
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 7: spot with Arizona and Miami. Miami won its fourth straight

1168
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 7: six to four at Washington, but Arizona was beaten at

1169
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 7: home by Baltimore eight to five. The Orioles are first

1170
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 7: in the AL East, still two and a half games

1171
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 7: over Tampa Bay. Toronto won at Colorado seven to five.

1172
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 7: The Blue Jays are a game and a half out

1173
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 7: of the final AL wildcard spot. Wins for the Phillies

1174
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 7: and Cubs. Mets beat Seattle six to three. The Mariners

1175
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 7: are first in the AL Wes for the moment, a

1176
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 7: half game over Houston.

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 8: Texas is won back.

1178
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 7: Texas got a walk off homer to beat Minnesota six

1179
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 7: to five. Tampa Bay and Boston with road victories and

1180
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 7: guys at Basketball's World Cup this morning, the US ended

1181
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 7: the second round with a loss to Lithuania one ten

1182
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 7: to one oh four, but each team advances to the quarterfinals.

1183
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 7: Each was four to oh coming into today Tuesday, USA

1184
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 7: versus Italy. Today, Anthony Edwards had thirty five points, but

1185
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 7: the Americans, and it was stunning to watch, were completely

1186
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 7: outplayed in the first half plus of this game. From

1187
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 7: three point range, Lithuania started nine for nine. They had

1188
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 7: all the height. The Americans do have the defensive player

1189
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 7: of the year in the NBA center Jaron Jackson, and

1190
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 7: yet again he was in foul trouble for the game today.

1191
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 7: Fifteen minutes, one rebound fouled out Lithuania now five and zero.

1192
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 7: It was up twenty one in the first half. Lithuania

1193
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 7: will play Serbia in a quarterfinal. Serbia eliminated the Dominican

1194
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 7: Republic with these one twelve to seventy nine. Carl Anthony Towns,

1195
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 7: who's been playing for the DR in the loss, had

1196
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 7: twenty five points, seven turnovers and kudos to Canada. They'll

1197
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 7: play Slovenia in the quarterfinals. Canada came back to eliminate

1198
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 7: Spain today. Shay Gilgos Alexander thirty points, including four clutch

1199
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 7: free throws late.

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: Back to you kudos to Canada. Maybe that'll be the

1201
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: name of my fantasy team this year. Steve, you bring

1202
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: this up, Mark Weather. Jason Martin like, is it arrogant,

1203
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: too simplistic or totally accurate that when a team USA

1204
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: does not prevail in basketball every time, I'm like, well, yeah,

1205
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: we don't care nearly as much.

1206
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 7: Well, part of it is the roster. You're correct, Grant

1207
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 7: Hill's the guy in charge of getting the USA rostered

1208
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 7: together like Jerry Colangelo used to be. And he admitted

1209
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 7: it's because it's not the Olympics and that's the be

1210
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 7: all end all for hoops for this country. It's just

1211
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 7: harder to get guys. They still have a quality roster

1212
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards on down, and they should be better. It

1213
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 7: wasn't just that they lost, it's that, my goodness, they're

1214
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 7: not even in this game. They're getting killed. That was really,

1215
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,480
Speaker 7: shall we say, disturbing. It was, as a newsperson, notable,

1216
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 7: how this get.

1217
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: Four thirty seven at one point and Lithuania hit like

1218
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: nine threes in a row. They were just so much

1219
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: more physical.

1220
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 7: And had the height so great. You want to you

1221
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 7: want to double some big man. Go ahead, put Austin

1222
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 7: Reeves in the post defensive League Daria that was going.

1223
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: On, just get tackled. I think it may have happened.

1224
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad. That was yeah, that was uh, that

1225
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: was you, That was U. I just ripped a wire

1226
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: right out of my stuff for no good reason at all.

1227
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: I was just trying to adjust my seat and I

1228
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: just decided. I'm like, I'm yeah, I'm like I'm out,

1229
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: see you later, everybody. No, I'm back. Everything's fine. Uh,

1230
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: my bad, but uh yeah, I just played that one

1231
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: like Team USA. That's all I did. Just wasn't wasn't

1232
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: paying enough attention today.

1233
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: That's no, you're not. It's not. It's not. It's not

1234
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: a urrogance say that. I do think it's absolutely true

1235
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: that just the FOBA and the World Championship stuff just

1236
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 1: does the needle for most of the top players.

1237
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: Well and I mean I guess yeah. I mean Steve

1238
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: called it disturbing and I was like, but but not really,

1239
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 2: because I'm not disturbed at all. And that's the point. Like,

1240
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: go back to Kobe's redeemed team and those stories of

1241
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: the way he got that team emotionally just ready to

1242
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 2: go and be different, and it was like, yeah, if

1243
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: you bring that fire to the party, then of course

1244
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: the Americans are going to win when it comes to basketball.

1245
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: But also the rest of the world is catching up.

1246
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: We know that too, and Solja right, we know it's

1247
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: a global game and and so that's fair to bring up.

1248
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: But I just I don't know is anybody making popcorn

1249
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: for the FOEBA games.

1250
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 8: Well the morning here on the West Coast.

1251
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 7: Sure, Only I need to emphasize the only part reason

1252
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 7: I would use that verb is because we had NBA

1253
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 7: All Star and Playoff talent on the court and weren't

1254
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 7: even making a nudge toward even being in the game.

1255
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 8: That was surprising.

1256
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 7: Journalistically, anybody independently would look at that and say, wow,

1257
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 7: what's going on here?

1258
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: Oh oh, so you're a journalist. Well, Dion Sanders would like.

1259
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 7: A word, because anybody in dependent.

1260
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would like to do you believe? Do you

1261
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: believe Steve? Yeah?

1262
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 8: I did.

1263
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 7: That was whether they stopped him on the last drive

1264
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,919
Speaker 7: or not. I was impressed yesterday.

1265
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: It was how could you're not pretty good? It was

1266
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: pretty good? No joke? No, I mean, well, how could

1267
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: you just not be like, I don't know, entertained. Yes,

1268
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: maybe somewhere that's part of our conversation about this, you know,

1269
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: like the old Guarden journalism would like, if you're working

1270
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: the game, you're not supposed to be entertained by it,

1271
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: or or have you know, And I'm like, I don't

1272
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: know how to do that. Like I just I don't

1273
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: even know how to do that. I don't know how.

1274
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: You couldn't get swept up into that story a little bit.

1275
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 7: No, you'd be the perfect person to back us up

1276
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 7: on this, because the two of us were on last

1277
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 7: night and talking about how not just bad Colorado was

1278
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 7: last year, but like one of the worst teams we've

1279
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 7: seen in years.

1280
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1281
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 7: They were always giving up forty or so and only

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Speaker 7: scoring about ten or so game after game after game,

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Speaker 7: night and day now.

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Speaker 2: It was unwatchable. It was like the quarterback would drop

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Speaker 2: back and you'd be like, you'd nudge your buddy, you'd

1286
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: be like, watch this. I mean it was like you could.

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Speaker 2: It's just I know it's gonna be a dumpster fire.

1288
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: I know it's going the other way. I know it's

1289
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: going to totally not work. It was some of the

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Speaker 2: worst high level college football I've ever seen. And to

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01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: see something like that change in the matter of nine

1292
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Speaker 2: months to this where you're scoring forty five, putting up

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01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: five to ten, you're entertaining, you've got star quality. You're

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 2: doing it against TCU, and I know they're not as

1295
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: good this year, but still like it's a real team.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of it's it's unthinkable. It's unthinkable what he

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Speaker 2: did yesterday.

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Speaker 8: I'm in Colorado.

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Speaker 7: Last year it was news when they were actually tied

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01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 7: with cal ten ten late in the game. I mean

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Speaker 7: that's and they finch Finchley won in overtime and that

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Speaker 7: was the one win.

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Speaker 8: It's like that was the highlight of the season right there.

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Speaker 2: It's just bananas man. All right, Yeah, great stuff, Steve.

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Speaker 2: We're in the Tyraq dot com studios, Mark Weather, Jason

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Speaker 2: Martin and coming up next we'll get to it. We

1307
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: were just talking Niners in Chiefs. One of them is

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Speaker 2: going against a believe the hype team. One of them

1309
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: is going against it don't believe the hype team. Which

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Speaker 2: one is Jason talking about and which one is he not.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to that. Coming up next.

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Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio, Okay Live, Tyraq dot Com Studios, Mark Wheeler, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs and Niners both looking at holdout pass rushers. Also

1314
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: looking at big games this week. Chiefs got the Lions,

1315
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Speaker 2: Niners got the Steelers. You believe in one and not

1316
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Speaker 2: in the other?

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Speaker 1: Talk to me, yeah, you know, the Steelers just kind

1318
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: of interesting to me because that whole division is made

1319
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: up of teams that could be good, but almost none

1320
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: of them are gonna be that bad, even though I

1321
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 1: think a lot of us wouldn't mind the Browns being terrible.

1322
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: But Cincinnati, we know Cincinnati is gonna be good unless

1323
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: their quarterback is hurt. We understand Baltimore, that's just gonna

1324
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: be fascinating to watch without Greg Roman now and now

1325
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: Lamar with the kind of the sort of the handcuffs

1326
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: off to where it can really be his Now, we're

1327
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna see, you know what he's really capable of. Perhaps.

1328
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 1: And then you've got Pittsburgh and they've become a darling

1329
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: talking point about being a Super Bowl favor or just

1330
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: something like a spoiler or something like that. And I

1331
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: was talking to Aaron Torres about this last night, and Mark,

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: I just don't know that I fully buy that Kenny

1333
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: Pickett is going to turn the Steelers into some kind

1334
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: of massive contender. It's not that I think Kenny Pickett

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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: is a bad quarterback. I just think the ceiling is

1336
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of low in the quarterback play that we're seeing now,

1337
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: the depth of it and the versatility of it. I

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: just don't I don't look at Kenny Pickett and say, yeah,

1339
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: that guy is the next insert this quarterback here. I

1340
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: don't see it. So I don't really think even with

1341
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: a healthier TJ. Watt and George Pickens with another year

1342
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: under his belt, I think they should be good because

1343
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: Tomlin just coaches well.

1344
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: But yep, I just.

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01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: Think the AFC is two loaded and on the flip side,

1346
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: the Lions, I do buy into it one because the

1347
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: NFC is far weaker than the AFC. There's less depth,

1348
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: especially in that division. I don't believe in Minnesota. I'm

1349
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: skeptical about Green Bay. I'm gonna give Jordan Love his

1350
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to show me what he is before I say

1351
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: he is this or he is that. And then Chicago,

1352
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to see that before I believe anything

1353
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: about the Chicago Bears. And I think the Lions did well.

1354
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: I think they did well in the draft. The last

1355
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: couple of years, they've done well in the draft Goff

1356
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: is certainly not going to lose them a bunch of games.

1357
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: He might not be the factor that wins them a

1358
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: bunch of games. But I like the draft pick of

1359
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: Gibbs because he fits what a running back should be.

1360
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: Now they don't need to carry the ball forty times

1361
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: a game. He's somebody that does something pretty well. He's

1362
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: very very fast, he can catch the ball out of

1363
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: the backfield. He's shifty. He gives you that advantage. And

1364
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: I like Campbell and I like the way as long

1365
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: as their defense can kind of come around this year,

1366
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: and that's the one worrisome spot. I like what the

1367
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: Lions could be and that sounds insane because it's the Lions.

1368
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: But this Lions team has done well in terms of

1369
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: stacking wide receivers, drafting fairly well, not making a bunch

1370
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: of boneheaded decisions, or overpaying a bunch of guys. There

1371
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: are some things that could go wrong that could cause

1372
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: them to falter, no question about it. But I like

1373
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: the hype around the Lions far more marked than I

1374
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:18,919
Speaker 1: do the Steelers.

1375
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 2: Well, in theory, I'm going to agree with you because

1376
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: I am a believer in the Lions, and I think

1377
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: people forget what they achieved last year because they didn't

1378
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: end up in the playoffs. But this is a team

1379
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 2: that was one in six and then the calendar switched

1380
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: to November, and as soon as the calendar switched to November,

1381
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 2: the rest of the way, they were an eight and

1382
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: two football team. And one of their losses was basically

1383
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: a buzzer beater on Thanksgiving against the Buffalo Bills, and

1384
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: they lost by a field goal, which I think is

1385
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: a pretty explainable loss. The inexplicable one was at Carolina

1386
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: on Christmas Eve, lost by fourteen and it ended up

1387
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: costing them a playoff spot. But that's the NFL. Bottom

1388
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: line is. You don't have to believe the hype in

1389
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 2: the Lions. They already showed it to you. They showed

1390
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: it to you for two plus months. They were really

1391
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: good and they can score a lot of points. And

1392
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Speaker 2: so I have no doubt that the Lions are gonna

1393
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: come back and be a good football team. Does it

1394
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: win the division, well, we'll find out, But I think

1395
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 2: they're gonna be a good football team. I'll tell you why.

1396
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: I do believe in the Steelers, yet I sort of

1397
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: agree with what you're saying it's not a hype thing.

1398
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: It's not a hype train. I don't think Kenny Pickett

1399
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: is suddenly like he's the fourth best quarterback in the division.

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01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt about it. But have

1401
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: you looked at their schedule? I mean, argument, Yeah, they

1402
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: play in a hard division and so they got to

1403
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: deal with that, and they play the forty nine ers

1404
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: this weekend and they got to deal with that. But

1405
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 2: outside of that, I'm looking at up to Vegas and

1406
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: a trip to Houston and a trip to play the Rams,

1407
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals come into town and they get to

1408
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: play the Colts, and they also play Green Bay and

1409
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 2: Tennessee and Jacksonville and New England. And I'm not saying

1410
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 2: all of those teams are bad, but you see what's missing, right,

1411
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: There's no Buffalo, there's no Kansas City, there's no Chargers,

1412
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: there's no Miami, there's no Jets. That strength of the

1413
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: AFC you're talking about is not on this schedule.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, that's fair. I could say Niners Ravens,

1415
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: those two Bengals games. The Titans are always going to

1416
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: be a tough ballgame because of the way Varabel coaches.

1417
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks could be intriguing. We'll see whether or not they

1418
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: come back down to earth this year. So, I mean,

1419
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: there are some opportunities, but you're right, there are some

1420
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: games that you should feel very comfortable with if you

1421
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: were a Steelers fan. Winning Cardinals may be the worst

1422
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: team in the league. And the Colts, who I have

1423
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: down as a team that's about to have a disastrous season. Yeah,

1424
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean that's a fair point. Their schedule

1425
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: could be enough.

1426
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: Who else do we like? Who else do we not like?

1427
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: The Colt situation as a whole worthy of discussion as well,

1428
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Jason Martin. We continue.

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Speaker 2: Well, what is it they say about investing past performances

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Speaker 2: no indicator of future results. I'd like to take that

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Speaker 2: your presence that you're with us tonight. Whatever it is

1442
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: you're doing on your Sunday, not a school night, not

1443
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: a work night for most, you get to just kind

1444
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: of lollygag your way through the rest of this one,

1445
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 2: and then when we all get back to work, it

1446
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: is football time coming up this week. Jason, let me

1447
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 2: give you three NFC teams that I don't think many

1448
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: people are talking about, who I think are interesting this

1449
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: year and potentially even playoff teams. One of them I

1450
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: think is for sure a playoff team. I'll start with

1451
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: that one. This may not seem like I'm going out

1452
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: on a limb because their division is so ridiculous, but

1453
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 2: I think the New Orleans Saints are a squad. I

1454
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: think that that's going to be a very, very different

1455
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: feel for that team this year. They have skill position players. Now,

1456
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: they've at least got some credibility at quarterback. I think

1457
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 2: they've got a top five defense in the conference. And

1458
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: then let's be honest, six of their seventeen games are

1459
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 2: absolute cupcakes, meaning their division mates like Tampa Bay, Atlanta

1460
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:15,520
Speaker 2: and Carolina are either offering a young quarterback or no quarterback,

1461
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: and so I think the Saints are real interesting team

1462
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: and I would be shocked if they are not the

1463
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: NFC South Division Crown winners.

1464
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: So I have the Panthers winning the NFC South. Okay,

1465
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: So I'm so happy that you did this, because I

1466
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: love it when there are opportunities to disagree, I just

1467
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: tell about it. I'm not sure about the Saints because

1468
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the quarterback and I'm not sure

1469
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: about the head coach right now. I look at Carolina

1470
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: and I see Bryce Young, who I love. I know

1471
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: he's young, but at least he's gonna have Adam Thielen.

1472
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Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have DJ Moore, but he's got

1473
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: Adam Thielen. Last year, Steve Wilf's got an awful lot

1474
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: out of that defense, and they were able to keep

1475
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: the key pieces of that defense around. Certainly McCaffrey is

1476
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: not there. That hurts Andyonta Foreman is not there either.

1477
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: But I just look at that division and I don't

1478
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: think anybody is particularly great there. But I think that

1479
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: the potential for the Panthers to be good. Strikes me

1480
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: as and Aaron actually agree with me. Aeron Torres agree

1481
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: with me. He said it first and actually sold me

1482
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: on it because I was more on your side. And

1483
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: then he pulled me back over and said, you know what,

1484
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: I think I might agree with you Erin, And so

1485
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,480
Speaker 1: I've kind of jumped on to believe in the Panthers

1486
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: good turn out to be wrong. I know where you're

1487
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: coming from. I just don't have a sense of what

1488
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: this Saints team is going to be. So maybe you

1489
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: can make the case that pulls me back to New Orleans.

1490
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: Well, let me start with what was the case that

1491
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: brought you over to Carolina. I had a few things

1492
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: about that team. I just tend to sort of think

1493
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: when you start brand new young quarterback, they are going

1494
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 2: to be a lot of obvious bumps and bruises. This

1495
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: is not to say nice young can't be a good player.

1496
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's gonna lead anybody to a

1497
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: division and crown right out the gate.

1498
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean it's certainly possible, and they're gonna

1499
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: be highs and they're gonna be lows. Uh, there's gonna

1500
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: be probably more highs for him than some rookie quarterbacks.

1501
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: Certainly this year there will be because I don't know

1502
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: his football IQ and he does have a couple of

1503
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: tools that he can work with, whereas I don't know

1504
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: what Stroud is going to be throwing to in Houston.

1505
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: I have no clue what that's gonna be in the

1506
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: short term, just as one example. But again, I do

1507
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: think that he is going to be helped by you

1508
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: get a Kwanu who really started to come on down

1509
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: to stretch last year for that O line. I expect

1510
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have a really solid year. We'll see

1511
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 1: what the guys do around him, but I think that

1512
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: line will be a little bit improved. Bryce can move

1513
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 1: a bit. His height and his you know, all that

1514
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 1: stuff scares me. It certainly scares me. He's gonna have

1515
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: to stay healthy for them to be good. I also, oh,

1516
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: I like Frank Reich, and I think Reich is a

1517
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,879
Speaker 1: steadying influence and I don't think that he is a disaster.

1518
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: I think he made one disastrous decision that cost him

1519
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 1: his job in Indianapolis, and that was back in Carson

1520
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: Wentz and when that failed, Jim Mersey was going to

1521
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: get him out of there. Regardless, and so they found

1522
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: a way to get that job done. But Dennis Allen, okay,

1523
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: and then Derek Carr, I've kind of wavered on him.

1524
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: At times. I've been fairly high on him, at times

1525
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: I've been fairly low. I think he's just kind of

1526
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: middle of the road. I think he's somewhere in that,

1527
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen to fifteenth best quarterback in the league,

1528
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: and maybe that is enough, because look, you watched a

1529
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: guy like that in San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo, because

1530
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of similarities in terms

1531
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: of kind of what they are, except that Garoppolo won

1532
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: Creed a lot more games. But I don't know what

1533
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: that is like, I'm not sure, and I do like

1534
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: some of the skill position players for the Saints. It

1535
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: just kind of feels like their window closed a few

1536
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: years ago. Sean Payton probably realized it. There's still some

1537
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: things there that don't quite add up to me. And

1538
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: then Carr is very much inconsistent, especially in big games,

1539
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: like in games that everybody is watching or that that

1540
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: team has to win. Often those are the times when

1541
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: you can't count on Derek Carr, and that worries me.

1542
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand you make some very fair points there,

1543
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: and the Dennis Allen one is probably at the top

1544
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 2: of the list. I just think that quarterbacking in the NFL,

1545
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: and again we're talking about simply winning a bad division,

1546
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: not talking about ending up in the Super Bowl thing.

1547
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: But you're talking about a quarterback who if you want

1548
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: to compare them to Garoppolo, they've kind of done some

1549
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 2: similar things to what the forty nine ers did around him.

1550
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: You look at what you need to surround a quarterback

1551
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 2: like that with in order to do some good things.

1552
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: Their receiving corps has a chance, I'll only say it

1553
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: as it has a chance. It has a chance to

1554
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: be something pretty special. Olave has now solidified himself. Can

1555
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 2: Michael Thomas become a version of his former self? And

1556
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 2: they love the kid Rashid Shaheed as well. That's an

1557
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: interesting core. You get Kamara back from the suspension a

1558
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 2: few games in, but they have some credibility behind him

1559
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 2: and bringing in Jamal Williams, and you remember what kind

1560
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: of a spiritual vibe he was in the Lions locker

1561
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: room last year. Got to know that on hard knocks

1562
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: you just put all that together. I even like their

1563
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: young tight end and Juwan Johnson. I think he'll be interesting,

1564
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: and Derek Carr loves to use the tight end. So

1565
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: put that together with a solid offensive line, and then

1566
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 2: the familiar names on the defensive side with Cam Jordan,

1567
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,799
Speaker 2: Marshawn Lattimore, the Honey Badger. You put all that together

1568
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 2: and tell me that I get a bunch of games

1569
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: against Baker Mayfield and Desmond Ritter, and I'm old, that's

1570
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1571
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: I agree with you in terms of I think it's

1572
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: I think that whichever one of the two teams that

1573
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: we are arguing for right now doesn't finish first, we'll

1574
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: finish second. Even though I like Arthur Smith, I just

1575
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: don't think they've got the tools. B John Robinson may

1576
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: turn out to be great, but I think B John

1577
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Robinson is another one of those one of those scenarios

1578
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of like say Kwon Barkley was for the Giants,

1579
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 1: where I don't feel like they had the luxury considering

1580
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: their quarterback situation to draft a running back that high,

1581
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: because until you have a quarterback, it doesn't matter what

1582
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 1: you have at running back unless you're in Tennessee and

1583
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: you have Derrick Henry for the better part of the

1584
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: last half decade. That's kind of an anomaly and it's

1585
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: not a thing that we're going to see in most cases.

1586
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: And I think Tampa Bay is going to be downright awful.

1587
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: So I think I think that at least nobody's nobody

1588
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: on this show right now is arguing for the Bucks,

1589
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: and no one is arguing for the Falcons. So I

1590
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 1: think one of the two of us are going to

1591
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: be right. I think the question is just how much

1592
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: progress does does Bryce Young show from the beginning of

1593
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: this year to the end? And can he stay healthy?

1594
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Those are the two critical questions because Panthers fans aren't

1595
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: looking at it this year like this needs to be

1596
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl year or even a playoff year. It

1597
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: does need to be a year where at the end

1598
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: of it you have some hope. It's the same kind

1599
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: of way you want to feel if you're Oklahoma or

1600
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: Texas this year before you move into the SEC. You

1601
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: want some positive momentum exiting this year.

1602
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 2: Tampa is on my short list of of Caleb Williams, Yeah, Damnations,

1603
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 2: Tampa's on. Tampa's on the list. I know Arizona is

1604
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: everybody's favorite because they're just openly trying. But but but

1605
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is they're they're they're.

1606
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: In the net. But don't you think, oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah,

1607
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean I look at I look at the league

1608
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 1: as a whole, and those are two teams that stand

1609
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: out as definite worst potential, not just bad, but worst.

1610
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: There are some teams I definitely look at and are

1611
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: not feeling good about it all, but I don't see

1612
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 1: them in the cellar either. One of those two teams

1613
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: I think could easily be like a two win football team.

1614
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: One of my other teams is a team that I

1615
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 2: don't like it when the teams that I'm like, they're

1616
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,719
Speaker 2: interesting and then it becomes trendy because then I'm like, yeah,

1617
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, because the trendy thing never works right. But

1618
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: like Washington Commanders, that's such a difficult division. But I

1619
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: also put it this way, one of my predictions will

1620
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: absolutely be that the New York Giants are going to

1621
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: finish fourth in that division, not Washington. I don't think

1622
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: the Giants were a legit playoff team last year. Even

1623
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: though they made the playoffs, I thought it was very circumstantial.

1624
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by not necessarily a buyer yet in Sam Howell,

1625
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by it, but I am convinced about pretty

1626
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 2: much the rest of the roster. You know, you want

1627
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 2: to talk about something that can be Garoppolo esque. Washington

1628
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: has a very good defense. I really dig their receiving corps.

1629
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 2: They've got a lot of different backs coming out of

1630
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: the backfield. That's how you get victories without having an

1631
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 2: elite quarterback. Very hard division. Obviously, no one's gonna say

1632
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: anything about the Eagles, and very few will say anything

1633
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 2: about the Cowboys. But I think the Commanders can be

1634
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: this year's Giants and potentially find their way into a

1635
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: wildcard team.

1636
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: I would definitely sign up for your Giants newsletter if

1637
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: you put one out, because I agree and I feel

1638
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: like the version of Daniel Jones that we saw last

1639
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: year mark is the best version of Daniel Jones you'll

1640
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: ever see. I don't think that this was man. He

1641
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: hasn't even hit a sewing yet. Oh yeah he did.

1642
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: I think he hit it and may have actually put

1643
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: his head through it a little bit. I don't see

1644
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: that guy being the same guy this year, even that

1645
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: he was last year, And ultimately I just never really

1646
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: bought into the talent that they had on that team across,

1647
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: especially on the defensive side of the ball, But I

1648
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: just never bought into Daniel Jones. Now Waller's going to

1649
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 1: help them, and I do like Brian Dable, but in

1650
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: that division with Philadelphia, with Dallas, who look, they're going

1651
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: to be overhyped, but they're also going to be pretty good.

1652
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: And then I agree with you on Washington. It's not

1653
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: like I think Washington is going to be carrying any

1654
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 1: trophies at the end of the year. But I think

1655
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 1: the b Enemy move helps them, and I think the

1656
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder out move helps them. There's just a different

1657
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 1: culture and a different vibe surrounding that team this year,

1658
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes there is a lot of addition

1659
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 1: to be made by subtraction, and that's exactly what you

1660
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: experienced from the Commanders and Howell. There was a lot

1661
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: of hype for Howell right before his senior year at UNC,

1662
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: when the team around him wasn't very good and he

1663
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: kind of faded into obscurity, and then he came into

1664
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: the league and people were like, well, who's this Sam Howe. Well,

1665
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: we'll find out, because I think they're going to be

1666
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: a very competent, well coached, don't beat themselves kind of

1667
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: football team, and that might be enough right there to

1668
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: make them relevant.

1669
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Usually, when you sign your quarterback to a new contract,

1670
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 2: you look at it and you're like, ooh, nice deal.

1671
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 2: But within three or four years it's going to be

1672
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 2: obsolete and it'll look like a bargain because all these

1673
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks are gonna get their deals and you'll fly by.

1674
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: I would predict the opposite for Daniel Jones. I think

1675
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 2: that one's gonna feel a little bit more Kyler Murray esque,

1676
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 2: where about seven minutes after you sign it, you're, oh, boy,

1677
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 2: really one hundred and sixty million dollars for Daniel Jones.

1678
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't get it. It's not it's certainly

1679
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: not that I think he's a bad football player. It's

1680
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: just that I don't think that you're I don't think

1681
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: that you do that unless you will, unless you believe

1682
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: that you can contend for a super Bowl, because giving

1683
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 1: him that kind of money and knowing that he's all right,

1684
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: and I think that's about kind of what I've said.

1685
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: He's all right at times, he's even maybe pretty good.

1686
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: That's just good enough to make it hard to draft

1687
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:14,759
Speaker 1: his replacement. That becomes purgatory for a lot of teams

1688
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: in this league is that they end up being eight

1689
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: or nine win football teams that are never quite good

1690
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: enough to really make you happy if you're a Giants fan,

1691
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: but also not trash enough to then actually go out

1692
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: and get a Caleb Williams or something like that. Like

1693
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: at least you're Arizona and Tampa Bay fans this year. Yeah,

1694
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: you can root for losses because of what that could

1695
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: mean for you next season. The Giants aren't gonna be

1696
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 1: that bad mark. They're gonna be like a six to

1697
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: seven win football team at worst, and that's exactly what

1698
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 1: you don't want. You don't want to just continually be mediocre.

1699
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: That's the worst.

1700
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Yep. And you can enjoy your sixteenth overall draft pick.

1701
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,400
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Speaker 2: more NFC team for you. Jason, and this one's gonna

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Jason, I want you to listen closely, Okay,

1709
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 2: I want you to listen closely to the uh, the

1710
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 2: amazing lyrics and one of the greatest NFL songs that

1711
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 2: has has ever been produced.

1712
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 1: You've heard this, right, I don't think I've actually heard

1713
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: this all right?

1714
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 2: Sing along?

1715
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 3: Wow?

1716
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Well it still feels that way done it Bears still

1717
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: all right? Yeah, I got hold every you caught on.

1718
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: Did you wait a minute? What if what if I

1719
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 2: told you Jason that no, they don't What if I

1720
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 2: told you no, they don't the what if you did?

1721
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? I will not be by the way?

1722
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Am I crazy? Am I just getting a little like

1723
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 2: Fantasy football eyes? If you will buy the Chicago Bears

1724
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 2: justin fields? This is definitely it, my man, Like this

1725
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 2: is it's year three. You got to you got to

1726
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: stand up and be counted right now and let people

1727
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 2: know was this a good pick or not? Because he's

1728
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 2: the guy where we're still kind of sitting on the fence,

1729
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like Trevor Lawrence thumbs up,

1730
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,919
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson thumbs down, Trey Lance thumbs down, Mac Jones

1731
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 2: a fine, but like thumbs down if you're really want

1732
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 2: to compete. Justin Fields is the one where I'm like,

1733
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. And he did some

1734
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 2: interesting things last year, like the way this team is

1735
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 2: now going to be coached, the fact that they actually

1736
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 2: have redone the whole skill position. View like they had

1737
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 2: the worst receiving corp in football. I thought, so. Dj

1738
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 2: Moore to me is a really really big time player,

1739
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:28,799
Speaker 2: and I'm intrigued, especially you know, Aaron Rodgers leaves the division.

1740
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 2: The Vikings were paper tigers to begin with. I know

1741
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: you love the Lions, so do I. I'm not calling

1742
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:39,759
Speaker 2: a division title, but I do think that's a team

1743
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: that can dance around five hundred and threaten for wild

1744
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 2: card in the end.

1745
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right about Dj Moore. I mean, this

1746
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: was a team, it wasn't. The worst receiving corps in

1747
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: football last year is the worst receiving corps I've seen

1748
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 1: in many years. It felt like like there were just

1749
01:37:56,360 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: no weapons. There was justin Fields and then nondescript player

1750
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 1: number one, and then they grabbed Chase Claypool. I mean

1751
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Vaylesh Jones was good at Tennessee, super fast, but you

1752
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: can't bring him in and expect him to be anything

1753
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: like substantial like a wide receiver one, wide receiver two.

1754
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: I was sitting there wondering if Bears fans are just

1755
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 1: pining for Alshon Jeffery again at this point in time.

1756
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 1: You're right in terms of that's a division where again

1757
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: I am. I have a healthy skepticism about Green Bay

1758
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: because I remember what they said about Jordan Love when

1759
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: they knew he wasn't going to be playing, when Aaron

1760
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers was still there. The leaks that came out were

1761
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: far different than what we've heard over the last few months,

1762
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,759
Speaker 1: when there would be nothing to be gained by leaking

1763
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: negative information about Jordan Love. But at the same time,

1764
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: I actually am going to watch him play before I

1765
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: render a verdict. We'll find out, but I definitely think

1766
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some struggles there. It's going to

1767
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: be a bit of a roller coaster for him and

1768
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: probably for his head coach, for Matt Lafleur, who's gotten

1769
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: used to the Aaron Rodgers experience, and this one's going

1770
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: to be far different. Minnesota couldn't agree more there that

1771
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: was a team that had a negative point differential last

1772
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: year that somehow kept winning games with a defense that

1773
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,799
Speaker 1: seemed like they were all over fifty and they didn't

1774
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: do much to repair it during the offseason. I think

1775
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: they're right for a fall, even though I like their

1776
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: head coach, and then the Lions, who I really like.

1777
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: So it's very possible, without with all the question marks

1778
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: around in Green Bay, that the Bears could end up,

1779
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 1: you know, fighting close to the second team in that division.

1780
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: I also think that could be a six or seven

1781
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: win football team. Perhaps, yeah I could, but yeah, and

1782
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe that's still better. I don't know, Like what is

1783
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: fair for a Bears fan to feel good at the

1784
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 1: end of this year about where the team is and

1785
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 1: about QB one being fields because they have upgraded the

1786
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: weapons around him, they have upgraded the offensive line around him.

1787
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: I've seen multiple reports basically all right now, it is

1788
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: really put up a shut up time when it comes

1789
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 1: to justin Fields because all of the things that you've

1790
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: been able to say to defend him up to this

1791
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: point are not going to actually hold any water. Should

1792
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: he be below average this.

1793
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,719
Speaker 2: Year, well I agree with that. To me, that's actually

1794
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: the answer to your question. I mean, the Vegas total

1795
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 2: this year for the Bears is seven and a half,

1796
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 2: which is interesting, right, because that's asking for you to

1797
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: be right, they got to get all the way to

1798
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 2: essentially five hundred. I know there's now seventeen games, but

1799
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 2: the Bears have to be a five hundred team for

1800
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 2: you to be right if you want to pick the

1801
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 2: over there. So that to me says that Vegas thinks

1802
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 2: that that's about what they're going to be. They're not

1803
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 2: thinking it's a six win team. They're thinking that they're

1804
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 2: going to be going into the final weekend of the

1805
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 2: season at seven and nine with a chance to go

1806
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 2: one way or the other. But the bigger question for

1807
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 2: me is not what their record is or if they

1808
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. It's whether or not Justin Fields can

1809
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 2: solidify who he is as QB one. It's year three.

1810
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 2: You pretty much do not get to go beyond that

1811
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 2: unless you find a very rare circumstance, And that rare circumstance,

1812
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 2: i'd argue, is a circumstance that a team does not

1813
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 2: want you. And I just talked about it going into

1814
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: year four and having everyone go are you good? Is

1815
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 2: not what you want.

1816
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: His name.

1817
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 2: His name is Daniel Jones. It's what the Giants just

1818
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 2: did and then gave one hundred and sixty million dollars

1819
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 2: to a guy who could easily be the fourth best

1820
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 2: quarterback in his division by the end of the year.

1821
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 2: Same thing happened with Kyler Murray the year before that

1822
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 2: with the Arizona Cardinals. A good season for the Bears

1823
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 2: is when it's over, they're like, Okay, we may have

1824
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 2: only gone eight to nine, but justin Fields solidified that spot.

1825
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that is very fair. And I

1826
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: think we have seen we've seen a couple of quarterbacks

1827
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: in recent years. Mark year three was the year something

1828
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 1: changed for them. Whether or not they I don't know,

1829
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: went and grab Stefan Diggs for example, because it was

1830
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: year three when you really learned what Josh Allen was

1831
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: gonna be. And that's when Buffalo fans stopped looking at

1832
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 1: anybody else and said, we've got our guy. Honestly, even

1833
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 1: though you're still the jury's out on Tua, not because

1834
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: of what he can do as a quarterback, but what

1835
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: he can do in terms of being available and being

1836
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: able to stay healthy long term. When he's healthy and

1837
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: he has weapons around him, and he's got a coach

1838
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: that's forward thinking offensively. I don't think there needs to

1839
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: be much of a question mark there there are. The

1840
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 1: other question marks are just ones that are gonna always

1841
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: have to be answered about him. So there are examples.

1842
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 1: Year three has to be the year for the Leap.

1843
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: That's absolutely. I could not have said that better, because

1844
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: when you get to the end of this year, if

1845
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: you're still asking questions, you already know the answer. It's just, honestly,

1846
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: is that true. Like these guys are not going to

1847
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: blossom eight years into their career, and you can't hold

1848
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: a franchise hostage, but for so long when it comes

1849
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: to development, this is not the NBA, and fan for

1850
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 1: Scilla is not calling somebody a project of a project

1851
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 1: like that's not a thing that exists in the NFL world.

1852
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: You have a certain amount of time to get the

1853
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 1: job done. I think Fields is certainly capable. I loved

1854
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: him coming out of Ohio State. I like to pick.

1855
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to see it succeed. I knew he was

1856
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: going to be fun to watch. They did nothing for him.

1857
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: The excuses that have been there for him I have

1858
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 1: made because I felt sorry for him up to this

1859
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: point in his career, but now that they have done

1860
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: some things, some things have changed, and he's had a

1861
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 1: couple of things fall into his lap that are positives.

1862
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 1: Now he needs to take advantage of those things to

1863
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: then prove the defenses that some of us have made

1864
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: for him over the past two years to have been accurate.

1865
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: In the first place.

1866
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 2: Someone in the Northwest is screaming like Gino Smith is

1867
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: in his eleventh year, and it's your point off right,

1868
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 2: so it But but I think your point, like that's

1869
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 2: such an outlier. Yes, your point's a good one. You

1870
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: look at the Burrows and the Herberts, the Josh Allens

1871
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 2: and the eyes. I think this year, who like the

1872
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 2: expectations around Trevor Lawrence. I mean, he did great last year,

1873
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 2: but this year it's going to be like, Okay, now

1874
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 2: you got to go win a division running away and

1875
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 2: be that dude, because you really should. And and same

1876
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 2: for Mac Jones in New England, Like I don't even

1877
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 2: know what the expectations are for him, but this year

1878
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 2: is going to tell the story as to whether or

1879
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 2: not that's someone that Patriots want to keep putting out

1880
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 2: there or not. So huge, huge year for him at

1881
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 2: a huge huge moment for us because it's it's our

1882
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 2: time to bring in Steve Desanger and let him do

1883
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 2: his thing and let you know what is trending, especially

1884
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 2: as that big time college football game hits the fourth quarter.

1885
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 8: So thank you for the intro humor.

1886
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 7: Is but I will say there was such a build

1887
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 7: up when you finally to me, is the payoff? Can

1888
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 7: I say on behalf of listeners that that has been disappointed?

1889
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 2: FRDA disagreat I think people. I think people have been

1890
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 2: sitting there for three minutes now, Yes, and a drum

1891
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 2: beat was created. Where is he?

1892
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 7: Well, we do have college football to up day, because

1893
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 7: at least according to the preseason polls.

1894
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 8: This is the top ten matchup.

1895
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 7: The opener in Orlando, Florida State is leading early fourth

1896
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:23,719
Speaker 7: quarter twenty four.

1897
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 8: To seventeen against LSU.

1898
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 7: May I remind us that the first drive of the

1899
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 7: night for the LSU Tigers, it took them all of

1900
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 7: two minutes to get down to the one yard line

1901
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 7: and they got nothing from first and goal at the

1902
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 7: one stopped for no gain than an incompletion, then another incompletion.

1903
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 7: Coach Brian Kelly went forward on fourth and goal from

1904
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 7: the one, and his quarterback was sacked.

1905
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 8: No points. They're down seven right now.

1906
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Florida State's quarterback Jordan Travis has a short touchdown run,

1907
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 7: two touchdown passes in one interception. Those two TD passes

1908
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,759
Speaker 7: to Keon Coleman of the Seminoles. He has eight catches

1909
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 7: one hundred and fifteen yards Right now. Florida State's offense

1910
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 7: has goal to go already up twenty four to seventeen

1911
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 7: on LSU ten and a half minutes to play. Eighteenth

1912
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 7: ranked Oregon State was a winner at San Jose State

1913
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 7: forty two to seventeen. Quarterback dj Uyangali lay five total

1914
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 7: touchdowns to transfer from Clemson. Rutgers beat Northwestern twenty four

1915
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 7: to seven. Rutgers defense with five sacks.

1916
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 8: Update.

1917
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 7: Florida State has scored at the US Open. Number one

1918
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 7: Egas Fiantec underway in her match in New York. Cocoa

1919
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 7: golf winner fourth rounder today. At Basketball's World Cup this

1920
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,560
Speaker 7: morning our time, the US ended the second round with

1921
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 7: a loss to Lithuania one ten to one oh four,

1922
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 7: but each team advances to the quarterfinals USA VERSUS Italy

1923
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 7: on Tuesday. Canada will play Slovenia in a quarterfinal. The

1924
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 7: Canadians came back to eliminate Spain today. NASCAR's at Darlington

1925
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 7: tonight and they're very late in the race, five laps

1926
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 7: to go. Kyle Larson in the lead, Tyler Reddick running second,

1927
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 7: and Chris Buscher is a close third. As for the

1928
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 7: baseball tonight, in Houston's beat the Stros again six to one.

1929
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 7: Rookie Jason Diminge is a two run homer. Dodgers over

1930
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 7: the Braves three to one. Rookie pitcher Bobby Miller the win.

1931
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 7: He's nine and three. San Diego shut out the Giants

1932
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 7: for nothing. Wins for Baltimore, Toronto and Miami, which is

1933
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 7: won four in a row. The Cub's got ten runs

1934
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,799
Speaker 7: in the last two innings and one at Cincinnati fifteen

1935
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 7: to seven. Philadelphia over Milwaukee four to two. The Brewers

1936
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 7: are the first place team in the NL Central three

1937
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 7: and a half games over the Cubs, six and a

1938
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 7: half up on the Reds.

1939
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: Back to you, well, Steve, I thought it was worth

1940
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 2: every minute, I really do, and he mentioned Jason my

1941
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 2: buzz phrase. If there's one thing that I would love

1942
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:49,640
Speaker 2: to eliminate from sports preseason rankings.

1943
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh I got dude, I've said that.

1944
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Dude.

1945
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 1: It drives me insane because and here's why, and unmind it.

1946
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: It may be a different reason for you. Thing it

1947
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 1: does for a team that is ranked lower is it

1948
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 1: creates an extra hurdle that they have to cross in

1949
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 1: order to prove their worth because of what somebody thought

1950
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: they were going to be before they played a game.

1951
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 1: If you rank a team higher, they don't have to

1952
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: accomplish as much, but you then place that burden on

1953
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: a team that you ranked lower that may or may

1954
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 1: not have been better than the team that you ranked higher,

1955
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,560
Speaker 1: but they have to do more to get to the

1956
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: same position. And to me, that's just insane.

1957
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 2: That is the exact same reason that I have. If

1958
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 2: this was just for fun, if the rankings were just

1959
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 2: something that it was like to get people talking as

1960
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 2: the season got started, then fine. But college football, unlike

1961
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't know every other sport in America, they actually

1962
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 2: are putting this stuff out there before anyone has even

1963
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 2: taken a snap, and it has a direct effect on

1964
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 2: how things play out on the field. And it blows

1965
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 2: me away because, by the way, the one thing you

1966
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 2: said in there, the only thing that I would sort

1967
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 2: of adjust a little bit. Is when you said that

1968
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 2: these people are ranked because of what some I don't

1969
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 2: even think it's that. I don't think anybody thinks about

1970
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 2: this at all. I think that they know these names.

1971
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 2: If you're Georgia, if you're Alabama, if you're Ohio State,

1972
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 2: if you're LSU, if you're USC, if you're Penn State,

1973
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 2: if your Notre Dame, if you're Texas, you're up there.

1974
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 2: You're up there in the top fifteen because that's how

1975
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:45,759
Speaker 2: the year starts, and it's anti sport. It's the whole

1976
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 2: college football thing when I talked earlier about feeling like

1977
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 2: you're on your way to vacation, but we spend too

1978
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 2: much time at the rest stop. Like the whole sport

1979
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 2: is in this temporary spot where we know where we're heading.

1980
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 2: We're heading for super conferences, we're headed for sixteen team playoff,

1981
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 2: We're headed for something that actually looks like the way

1982
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 2: sports finish. But for whatever reason, college football has decided

1983
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: not to rent a car, not to get a plane ticket.

1984
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 2: They've decided to walk to this destination we know we're

1985
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 2: heading to, and I just don't even know if everyone's

1986
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: got the patience to wait till they get there.

1987
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the preseason rankings, and it's so anti meritocracy

1988
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: as well, because everybody is zero and zero. Yet X

1989
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: team is better than HY team because I said so,

1990
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: or because I decided to vote for it because I

1991
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 1: live in this part of the country, as opposed to

1992
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: even having any knowledge of the teams that I'm then

1993
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 1: slighting somehow by ranking them lower. It's crazy. And I

1994
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: understand that it's more difficult in college football than a

1995
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,959
Speaker 1: pro sport, just because there's so many teams that everybody

1996
01:50:56,080 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: doesn't play each other and all of this. But if

1997
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: these preseason rankings could just become these thought piece columns

1998
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: in the athletic or wherever it would be, where here's

1999
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 1: what I would rank these teams, that would be all right.

2000
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: The fact that these get factored into the one sport

2001
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: that also relies on votes and computers and human error

2002
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 1: and all of this other stuff to determine a four

2003
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: team playoff for right now, that to me makes it

2004
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: even more crazy and more maddening as a fan. Even

2005
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,560
Speaker 1: though it becomes great for debate, it's great for what

2006
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: we do towards the end of the year because there's

2007
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: always debates, but that's really not the way it should

2008
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: be because it's imperfect. It creates discussions that otherwise wouldn't exist.

2009
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:46,480
Speaker 1: And selfishly I love those discussions, but I also understand

2010
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: that they're irrational and shouldn't exist when we can look

2011
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: at records later to determine who is good and who

2012
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:53,560
Speaker 1: is not.

2013
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 2: Yep, really well, said Live intheti Rack dot Com Studios,

2014
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 2: Mark Willer, Jason Martin coming out next the play of

2015
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 2: the day, and also speaking of predictions, I guess we

2016
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: should answer his question, do we believe? You believe?

2017
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 3: Now?

2018
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 2: Where is Coach Primes program going next? Now that they

2019
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 2: are one to zero baxt on Fox Sports Radio.

2020
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 5: And the one Ozero swinging a fly ball deep down

2021
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 5: the right field line, Tucker on the Chase, Tucker looking up.

2022
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 3: This one is God.

2023
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 2: The whole runs hell. Marciatles on the tech here in

2024
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 2: Space City. There it is the Yankees Radio Network, as

2025
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 2: we are alive from the tire Rock dot Com Studios.

2026
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,760
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2031
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: prize prospect Jason Dominguez. Second home run in his first

2032
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 2: three games, and the first one might have been even

2033
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 2: more impressive. Two run shot off of Justin Verlander in

2034
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 2: his first major league at BET, only twenty years old.

2035
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 2: That's pretty good opening weekend for the Yankees and their fans.

2036
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 2: I know no one feels sorry for them, but the

2037
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 2: Yankees could use something to cheer about.

2038
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 1: Been a rough year, been a very very rough year.

2039
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Can't can't, can't relate as a Braves fan. But we've

2040
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: had some lean years.

2041
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: This is not one of them, haven't we all know

2042
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 2: it is not? No, it is not. My goodness, I

2043
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 2: already already fawned over that team earlier today. Ninety and

2044
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: forty six are the Atlanta Braves and a plucky little

2045
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 2: run differential of plus two hundred and thirty nine. Good.

2046
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 1: That's usually a word. Yeah, that's that's gonna win a lot.

2047
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:00,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna win a lot.

2048
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder if anybody else has sort of

2049
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 2: put that in perspective. You have dominant teams like the

2050
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: Dodgers plus one sixty six go to the Baltimore Orioles

2051
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 2: plus one oh one. The Rays with the way they

2052
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: started the year plus one eighty eight. I know the

2053
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,839
Speaker 2: Rangers have hit hard times, but they have that lineup

2054
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 2: that won't quit plus one sixty eight. The Braves are

2055
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 2: plus two thirty nine. Like whatever the A's are in

2056
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 2: the negative direction, the Braves are in the positive. Yeah.

2057
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: I think they took all of what the A's were

2058
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: gonna get and also added it to their total as well.

2059
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: When Matt Olsen left that team and came to Atlanta,

2060
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: he took whatever positives they had and brought that to Atlanta.

2061
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: Oakland Athletics minus two ninety six with their run differential

2062
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: this year, however, hearts around Oakland and Las Vegas all

2063
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 2: partying tonight. They no longer have the worst record in baseball.

2064
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 2: Do you see that m I did not swept. They

2065
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 2: swept the Otanis this weekend, and I have moved a

2066
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 2: half game ahead of the Kansas City Royals.

2067
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: Well good for them. Yeah, exactly small small stories right now,

2068
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 1: unlike what Colorado did yesterday.

2069
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 2: All right, so everybody buzzing about coach Prime from a

2070
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 2: lot of different directions. There was the game, there was

2071
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 2: his son there. There there was the two way player action,

2072
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: I mean, just unbelievable stuff. And then the inspirational speeches,

2073
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 2: the press conferences. There was something for everybody in this story.

2074
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 2: But I wonder where you think this is going next.

2075
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 2: TCU is still a good program. Obviously, they lost a

2076
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: lot and so they're not the team that they were

2077
01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 2: a year ago. But that said, looking at at what

2078
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 2: we saw yesterday, does it feel sustainable to you?

2079
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on what you mean by sustainable,

2080
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: because I look at their schedule and if they finished

2081
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 1: date and four, it wouldn't stun me. And that's crazy

2082
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 1: considering what they were last year. But Nebraska's not good.

2083
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: That's gonna take a little bit more time than it

2084
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 1: is for Prime because the transfer portal is not going

2085
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: to be as kind and he's, you know, Matt Rule,

2086
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: even though he has proven himself on a college level,

2087
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 1: maybe he is not going to be able to entice

2088
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 1: young athletes the same way Prime Time could. Colorado State.

2089
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: You can beat Colorado State, Arizona State, you can beat them.

2090
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 1: You can beat Stanford, I mean Oregon State with DJ Ujanglile,

2091
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't know. They had a

2092
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 1: great year last year, but we'll see where they are

2093
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: by the time you meet them. You can beat Arizona,

2094
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 1: you can beat Washington State. Utah is going to be

2095
01:56:56,280 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: a challenge. Oregon State maybe that's a challenge. CLA is

2096
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 1: probably going to be a difficult ballgame. Oregon and USC

2097
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 1: are probably losses. But I look at some games and

2098
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: I see certainly Bowl eligible. I see Bowl eligibility. Yes,

2099
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 1: just among the teams that I feel confident they can beat,

2100
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: I think this is probably a seven win team at worst.

2101
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 2: Right now, I sort of agree with you because, like, look,

2102
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 2: I think they're three and oh. I think they're going

2103
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 2: to be three and oh. Based on what you just said,

2104
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 2: they're home the next two weeks to Nebraska and Colorado State,

2105
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 2: with the energy that is now around that program, what

2106
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,640
Speaker 2: that stadium is going to feel like in Boulder the

2107
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks, I think that they're going to

2108
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 2: be three and oh. And that sets up an end

2109
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 2: of September that is going to be ready to remember.

2110
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 2: And that is on the road Adson Stadium at Oregon

2111
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 2: September twenty third, and then Even if that doesn't go well,

2112
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 2: that home game on September thirtieth against the USC Trojans

2113
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 2: and Lincoln Riley is going to be something that everybody

2114
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 2: wants to tune into and check out. And by the way,

2115
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 2: you know, when you call them losses, you're probably right.

2116
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 2: But keep in mind, you know, I watched all of

2117
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 2: that USC game last night against San Jose State. You

2118
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 2: cannot stop Caleb Williams and the skill position players that

2119
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 2: USC has to offer. However, you can do the same

2120
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 2: thing that you did to them last year, and that

2121
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 2: is score. You can score on that team. And so

2122
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 2: I think I don't know who wins that game, but

2123
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 2: I can tell you I'd be pretty surprised if both

2124
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 2: teams aren't north of thirty five points. I can tell

2125
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 2: you that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would agree. I mean, I have USC

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Speaker 1: in my final four. But the defense is still a

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley defense until further notice. And if that game

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Speaker 1: could be played in the fifties, possibly because it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be up and down, I mean, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of skill, talent and a lot of speed on that

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Speaker 1: field that's gonna be can't miss stuff. We knew win

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Speaker 1: or lose this season for Colorado was going to be

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Speaker 1: one to watch and to keep your eye on. Now

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Speaker 1: we know we'd better sit down and prepare because this

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Speaker 1: could be historic kind of stuff considering where they were

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Speaker 1: and where they find themselves right now.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, Man, this was a whole lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I had a great time hanging out with you tonight. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good time. This first time I've ever gotten

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Speaker 1: to work with you. I think I've interviewed you a

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Speaker 1: few times on an NBA topic in the past, but

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Speaker 1: this has been a blast, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to get three hours to talk it out. We

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Speaker 2: got our whistle all wet and ready to go for

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Speaker 2: NFL getting started with the first full week here in

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Speaker 2: a handful of days. So man, thanks, it was a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it absolutely was, brother, appreciate.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely all. Right, there it is. That's the last

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Speaker 2: Sunday without the NFL, So the countdown is on and

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Speaker 2: look forward to talking to you about all of that

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Speaker 2: next week. For Jason Martin, I Mark Wellard, Fox Sports Radio,