WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast - Erase The Taste

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth podcast, the Erase the Taste Edition, as the

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<v Speaker 1>four and three Bengals look to rid themselves of the

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<v Speaker 1>bitter aftertaste from a dismal performance of Kansas City and

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<v Speaker 1>get back on the winning track this Sunday at home

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<v Speaker 1>against the three and three Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>an in depth conversation with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham,

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<v Speaker 1>including his thoughts on what's happened to the Bengals offense

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<v Speaker 1>since Tyler Eifford went down and if the Bengals problems

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<v Speaker 1>on defense are fixable. I'll chat with Carl Lawson about

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<v Speaker 1>only having one sack so far this season after leading

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<v Speaker 1>NFL rookies in that category last year. And this week's

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<v Speaker 1>Know the Faux segment, we'll talk to Rick Stroud, who

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<v Speaker 1>covers the Bucks for the Tampa Bay Times. All of

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<v Speaker 1>that is straight ahead, but first, here's a quick reminder

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to this week's game. When the Bengals hit

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<v Speaker 1>the practice field on Wednesday, nearly one fourth of the

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<v Speaker 1>roster made the injury list. Twelve out of fifty three players,

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<v Speaker 1>ten didn't practice at all, including Vontes Perfect with a

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<v Speaker 1>hip injury, Bobby Hart with a bad back, Drake Kirkpatrick

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<v Speaker 1>with an achilles issue, and John Ross who continues to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with a groin injury. The Bengals have a bye

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<v Speaker 1>coming up after this week's game against Tampa Bay, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can't get here soon enough. Now time to bring

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<v Speaker 1>in my broadcast partner, Dave Lapham to review last week's

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<v Speaker 1>to baccle at Kansas City and look ahead to Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>home game against the Bucks. Lap I'm going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>the clock back to twenty fourteen in prime time on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Football, The New England Patriots got embarrassed at

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City forty one to fourteen, not quite as bad

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<v Speaker 1>as forty five ten, but awfully close. The next week,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick famously said, we're on to Cincinnati, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots ended that season by winning the Super Bowl. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying the Bengals are going to win the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>but how do they flush that Kansas City disaster down

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<v Speaker 1>the drain? Marvin Lewis channels inner Bill Belichick and Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton channels his inner Tom Brady. I think that's two

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<v Speaker 1>big reasons why they were able to move on to

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati and be so successful. But you do have to compartmentalize.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, as I recall, Andy Dalton had his first

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<v Speaker 1>three game losing streak ever in any sports endeavor youth,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up to the NFL when he lost

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<v Speaker 1>three in a row here as the Cincinnati Bengal. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>never had never happened to him before. So Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>historically has been able to put a bad performance aside

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<v Speaker 1>and bounce back. And uh, you know, if it happens

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<v Speaker 1>they lose two in a row, it doesn't happen more

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<v Speaker 1>than that in a normal timeframe. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they are at home. It's an important football game. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they have to look at this football game

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<v Speaker 1>as a crucial moment of the season. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>do you crumble or do you get up off the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>dust yourself off and get back at it and beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's a winnable football game. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>they could go into the bye week at five and three,

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<v Speaker 1>lick their wounds, get healed up for the stretch, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, they're tracking the ten and sixth season

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<v Speaker 1>right where they want to be. If not, now there

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<v Speaker 1>are more questions then probably can be answered during a

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<v Speaker 1>short time of a bye week. Lap Oar colleague Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Butch Hobson from Bengals dot Com had a great stat

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<v Speaker 1>In fourteen quarters with Tyler Eiffort this year, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have scored one hundred and seventeen points without him, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven points, a drop off of fifty points. I did

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<v Speaker 1>some research before the Kansas City game. In thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>possessions with Tyler Eiffort healthy, not including Neil downs or

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<v Speaker 1>possessions where the Bengals were not trying to score, they

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<v Speaker 1>scored touchdowns on fourteen of thirty six drives. That's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of the time without him six touchdowns on

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two drives nineteen percent. What has the Effort injury

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<v Speaker 1>done to the Bengals offense? You know, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can look at it and say, what kind of defenses

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<v Speaker 1>were they playing against when Effort was playing. Baltimore's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>darn good Carolina historically, pretty darn good. Atlanta you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has been not this year. But I mean it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like they were playing against you know, ge the football teams.

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<v Speaker 1>They were playing against good defensive football teams. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's exactly what we saw with Kansas City. You

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<v Speaker 1>have two speeders because because the other factor is the

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<v Speaker 1>John Ross factor in that Kansas City Sammy Watkins, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he can fly, he can stretch the football field, There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. They have speed on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill was ridiculous. He's a joystick, you know, a video game.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys stretch it, and then you have Kelsey abusing it.

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<v Speaker 1>With the aj Green John Ross, they could have stretched it,

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<v Speaker 1>Effort abusing it, and that's what they were doing. So

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<v Speaker 1>now you lose Effort abusing it, and you lose John

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<v Speaker 1>ross stretching it the threat of the deep ball. On

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, it tilts coverages differently. You know, Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd was starting to get double teamed as well as

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green. So I mean the whole dynamic changed when

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Eiffort was in the football game. Every snap he played,

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<v Speaker 1>they went nickel defense. They went to a sub package.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not stay based defense. That tells you the

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<v Speaker 1>defense's respect for Tyler Eifert was doing for them offensively

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<v Speaker 1>and without him um and then Tyler Boyd down as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, CJ. Zami, you better put him in a bubble.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't afford to lose that guy. You better make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he is protected. I would not put him

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<v Speaker 1>in any contact drills in practice. I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be very careful not to lose CJ. Zami. He's

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<v Speaker 1>and CJ is capable. I mean, he's a big body

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<v Speaker 1>guy that can run. He's a threat. But when when

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<v Speaker 1>they had all hands on deck, very healthy and making

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<v Speaker 1>the defense defend the entire football field, they were they

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<v Speaker 1>were dynamic. They were getting a lot of deep balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're playing in a closet. Now the defense is compressed,

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<v Speaker 1>The defense is tighter, to the line of scrimmage. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not they're not feeling threatened with the downfield ball as much.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and then they can tilt the coverage to

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<v Speaker 1>AJ because a couple of weapons down. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's Tyler Eiffert for sure. John Ross is another part

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<v Speaker 1>of that equation. He may not be as big a

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<v Speaker 1>catalyst or as big a part of the formulation, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's a factor as well. And it's it's incredible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at the Miami game. The offense

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<v Speaker 1>scored thirteen points. The defense had two defensive touchdowns. So

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<v Speaker 1>offensive you put thirteen on the board. You put twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one on the board against Pittsburgh and ten on the

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<v Speaker 1>board against the Chiefs. That's the surprising one. Two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine yards, fifteen first downs and ten points against

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<v Speaker 1>that defense. That's that's stunning. But the last three games

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<v Speaker 1>they scored forty four points against Atlanta, they scored thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven to beat him, thirty seven thirty six. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lull. It's it's a lot longer than the lull.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, right now, it's hibernation. Offensively, it's not a lull.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to come out of it. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals defense next to last in the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>yards allowed twenty eight and points allowed twenty sixth versus

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<v Speaker 1>the run twenty nine versus the pass. Is it fixable

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<v Speaker 1>after seven games? You know, as all coaches will tell you, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's fixable, you know, But I mean, is an injury

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<v Speaker 1>related you know you're down some people? Well yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the league. The Kents City Chiefs shut the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals offense down without Houston, their Pro Bowl uh linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>and without Burry, their Pro Bowl safety. They're two best

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<v Speaker 1>defensive players. The two Pro Bowl players that they lean

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<v Speaker 1>on didn't play, didn't play a snap. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's fixable, And it's it's you really have to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on doing the little things, the minor details. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when when it's going well, you have a Tennessee like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, yeah we're good. You know, everything's you start

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<v Speaker 1>to handling success is difficult. You know, it's sometimes even

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult than handling failure. And that's that's the reason,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, man, yeah, I get some swagger, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about myself right now. They can't. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about anything. They have to just have laser focus,

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<v Speaker 1>razor sharp focus and every little minute, minute shut detail.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to be all over because it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>anytime anybody stumbles on any phase of it on any level.

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<v Speaker 1>Up front, hitting the wrong gap, staying out, getting washed

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<v Speaker 1>out of a pass rush lane, hitting the wrong gap

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<v Speaker 1>in the run game, whatever it is. Same thing at

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<v Speaker 1>the linebacker position, you're not in exactly where you should

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<v Speaker 1>be on your drop. You know you're off a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a whole the quarterback finds it. In the secondary,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you have some kind of a mistake or

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<v Speaker 1>miscommunication issue. Any time any of it happens, they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting beaten, and it's happening at different levels of

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<v Speaker 1>the of the defense at different times. And if we're

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<v Speaker 1>the same guy, we're making the mistake over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>You could replace them. It's an easy solution, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing it collectively. There's I don't think there's anybody

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<v Speaker 1>on that defensive football team who suits clean, who can

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<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror and say, have I had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect gear so far? Have I not screwed up? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Every single one of them, and you know this started

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive starting the Miami game. The two defensive

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<v Speaker 1>scores were make up to hide imperfections, and it hid

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<v Speaker 1>defensive imperfections as well. And now all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>reality has hit them in the face with two really

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<v Speaker 1>good opponents Pittsburgh Steelers in the Kansas City Chiefs. They

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<v Speaker 1>got they gotta tighten it up. They gotta adopt the eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>cross the t's in every single detail. No detail is

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<v Speaker 1>too small. Every single one of them is magnificently large.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned injuries. Two weeks ago, with one eighteen left

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<v Speaker 1>in the Pittsburgh game, the Bengals had a one point

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<v Speaker 1>lead over the Steelers. They're on the verge of being

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<v Speaker 1>five and one and the toast of the town. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're four and three and being ridiculed after getting embarrassed

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<v Speaker 1>on primetime. How much of this decline is injury related?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think a lot of it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this league, everybody has to adjust and adapt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you watched the New England Patriots win a

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<v Speaker 1>football game without Gronkowski. You know he's not available, then

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<v Speaker 1>is They're outstanding rookie running back Michelle gets dinged up

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<v Speaker 1>and he's out in the game, they go to White,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to whoever, they go to Edelman, they find ways.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to uh. You know, if if your your

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<v Speaker 1>first plan of attack is eliminated, you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a plan B, a plan C, a plan all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to Z. In the league, you really do offensively

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<v Speaker 1>and defensively. And I think that's maybe maybe the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have to work a little bit harder. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a plan B and C, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more time could have, should have or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>in hindsight been devoted to them because they came upon

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<v Speaker 1>them quickly, you know, and uh, and now they have

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<v Speaker 1>to adjust on the fly. I think the bye week

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<v Speaker 1>is coming at a good time for the physical part

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<v Speaker 1>of it because of the injuries, guys looking their wounds

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<v Speaker 1>and healing up, and for the coaches to really go

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<v Speaker 1>back and do the self evaluation and say, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>they did to us when when this happened, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>react quickly enough with a plan B or C. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this down the stretch in the season instead

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<v Speaker 1>of what we did in the first half. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be a twofold plus heal up, rest,

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<v Speaker 1>and heal up. For the players do their rehab, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the coaches sit back, take a good, long, hard

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<v Speaker 1>look at what they did, how they did it, and

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<v Speaker 1>make adjustments Accordingly. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers might have the

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<v Speaker 1>worst pass defense of all time. They are giving up

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<v Speaker 1>nearly three hundred twenty eight yards per game. Quarterbacks are

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<v Speaker 1>completing seventy five percent of their passes against the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>The passer rating against Tampa Bay is one twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>point eight. If you're the Bengals, why even run this week?

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<v Speaker 1>You to scratch your head and wonder. Tampa Bay has

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<v Speaker 1>given up eighteen touchdown passes, most in the NFL. They

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<v Speaker 1>only have one interception, tied for feuis in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have no yard return on that interception, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst in the league. So why why run the football? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals thought that the Kansas City Chiefs defense was

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<v Speaker 1>a sieve, and everybody did. The Kansas City was tracking

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<v Speaker 1>to give up the most yards in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. They gave up tune in thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine against the Bengals and only ten points. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can take nothing for granted on a week to week

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<v Speaker 1>basis in this league. And I still maintain no matter

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<v Speaker 1>who you're playing against, you do have to have some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of modicum of balance, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>if the defensive line doesn't have to respect the running

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<v Speaker 1>game at all and can tee off. And Mark Duffner

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<v Speaker 1>now the defensive coordinator, he's got a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>under his belt now and he can come up with

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<v Speaker 1>some more creative designs with blitz packages. Put his stamp

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<v Speaker 1>on it. It's gonna it'll probably be different. The Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs through a coverage at AJ Green that he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen on tape or anybody had seen on tape

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<v Speaker 1>from the Kansas City Chiefs all season long. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Mark Duffner in particular, Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Duffnin wants to beat the Bengals and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to do it by showing a new wrinkle something

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<v Speaker 1>that has not been on tape yet, and not just

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<v Speaker 1>probably for AJ Green, but also in trying to confuse

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton. So take nothing for granted. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>can pound the rock and anchor them, that's the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to beat the football team. Then you can abuse

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<v Speaker 1>them through the air. If you ask avid football fans

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<v Speaker 1>to name the number one passing attack in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing they would say New Orleans, maybe Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly Pittsburgh, Atlanta. It's actually Tampa Bay. Three hundred sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four yards per game, including eight completions of forty yards

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<v Speaker 1>or more. They've only played six games. What do the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have to do on defense? Can't give up the

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<v Speaker 1>explosive play. They have four different receivers with the reception

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<v Speaker 1>of fifty yards or more. Evans has one for fifty one,

0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Humphreys for fifty one, Howard has a seventy five yard

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown catch. Jackson has a seventy five yard touchdown catch.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, explosive plays buy a bunch of different people.

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<v Speaker 1>Five different receivers have twenty more catches, four different have

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<v Speaker 1>three or more touchdowns, and four different have three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards or more receiving the tight ends. They have two

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<v Speaker 1>good tight ends. Out of that tight end group, thirty catches,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and fifty two yards five touchdowns. They combine

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<v Speaker 1>twelve touchdowns last year. Bottom line is the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>to be on their a game. They have to be

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<v Speaker 1>on point because just like Kansas City. Tampa Bay attacks

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<v Speaker 1>the entire football field. I mean, Fitzpatrick and Winston, they

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<v Speaker 1>are both. They're not prejudicial. Wherever the reed takes them,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where they're going with the football. They're not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to force things. So you have to be assignment sound,

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<v Speaker 1>be where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be there, and you can't. You can't. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>minimize your mental mistakes because they will take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have such athletic people at the receiver position.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan's big and strong. You know, Jackson runs as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as anybody. They can. They can hit, hit you, beat,

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<v Speaker 1>beat you deep, hit you hard, and they've done it

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of people. All right, last thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals face the Tampa Bay Bucks, and the Buck's original coach,

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<v Speaker 1>John McKay had some of the greatest one liners in

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<v Speaker 1>coaching history. He was asked about his team execution, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for it. He was. He also said, after

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<v Speaker 1>one game, we didn't tackle well, but we made up

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<v Speaker 1>for it by not blocking. So here's my question for you,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the funniest coach you were ever around? Has

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<v Speaker 1>to be Sam White, you know, Sam, Sam could have

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<v Speaker 1>done stand up comedy. I think, I mean, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>he is so naturally funny, and he is so quick.

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<v Speaker 1>His mind is so quick. He can make a joke

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<v Speaker 1>out of anything. He can. He can come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a with a one liner or take it in a

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<v Speaker 1>direction where it's like, man, how how does your mind work?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make that association um and come up

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<v Speaker 1>with what you come up with? I mean he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was hilarious and a real high level, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sophisticated level of humor. It could be you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>flat out normal funny, real sarcastic funny. He was something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And you talk to guys that played with him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>during his career, I think every one of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Johnson, Bob Trumpy, Kenny, and you go through all

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<v Speaker 1>the all the guys that played with Sam White, I

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<v Speaker 1>think every one of them would say that he might

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<v Speaker 1>be as funny a guy, you know, as it's ever

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<v Speaker 1>been around, the guy that people would not think about

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<v Speaker 1>with sarcastic humor. Though Paul brown Man, he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was funny. The guy could, The guy could. His sarcasm

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<v Speaker 1>dripped with about as much real sharp needle to it

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<v Speaker 1>than I've ever been around he could. He could crush

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<v Speaker 1>you in a sentence with his sarcasm. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>funny guy. And speaking of Paul Brown, the NFL celebrates

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<v Speaker 1>its one hundred season next year, and the league recently

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<v Speaker 1>announced that an all time team will be selected, along

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<v Speaker 1>with a list of the ten greatest coaches, and Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Brown should be a lock to be on that list.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the mysteries of the Bengal season to date

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<v Speaker 1>is the lack of a dominant pass rush. Geno Atkins

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<v Speaker 1>has six sacks and Carlos Dunlap has five, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>on pace for double digit seasons, but as a team,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are tied for twentieth in the NFL with

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<v Speaker 1>just fifteen sacks. Carl Lawson led NFL rookies with eight

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<v Speaker 1>and a half last year, but only has one sack

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<v Speaker 1>through seven games. I talked to Carl at his locker

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday. How bad did you get held on Sunday night?

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<v Speaker 1>It was ridiculous. I mean, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>hold in. It was a buck in the back, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I don't know, cause it's becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>water year, which you just gonna keep working. I was

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<v Speaker 1>among Benny that would have predicted a double digit sack

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<v Speaker 1>here for you. This year. It could still happen, But

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<v Speaker 1>have you been frustrated that they haven't come as rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>as they came last year? I mean, of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean then again, the same snap counts last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I feel like there's a bunch of varying factors.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't and I've as I've reviewed the film.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's from a lack of just you know, winning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the one on ones that to take. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of variables applying to it. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do is I can't sit there and hang

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<v Speaker 1>my head. I gotta even though you know the natural

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<v Speaker 1>thing is to want to do that, I just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep pushing, keep fighting, and you never know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just keep taking it one day at a

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<v Speaker 1>time and just gotta keep working. Sacks are very black

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<v Speaker 1>and white stat they don't necessarily measure pressure. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the website Pro Football Focus, you are still among the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman getting the most consistent pressure in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel that way? Honestly? I mean, that's cool

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<v Speaker 1>and all, but I've always lose the model of sacks

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, sacks get stacks, sacks or what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>change the games. And yeah, everybody, of course, people are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see the pressure. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>when they're talking about the conversation how good this guy is,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna that's what you're gonna be measured there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna sit there and let a stat like pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be like a pad on the bag. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't take it as such. And I just need to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to keep working and go out there and go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and just you know, produce when I get

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<v Speaker 1>my opportunity. But I know my time will come. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm there's no there's no short of confidence that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a great player in this league when you

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<v Speaker 1>know when that time time is to hit. Two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are about a minute and twenty seconds away

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<v Speaker 1>from being five and one. And the toast of the

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 1>town Steelers game ended poorly. Last Sunday night was a

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<v Speaker 1>rough one, and now people are questioning how good this

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>team is. How about internally, what's the feeling in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room internally? I think, you know, we really need

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<v Speaker 1>to just you know, regathering and regrouping and to get

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<v Speaker 1>through the Bobwiek because of lot of things. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>injury bug is a hit. It's like somebody threw a

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<v Speaker 1>grenade in the tight end room. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, I've I've dealt with little stuff this

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<v Speaker 1>year myself, but it's just you know, get just get

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<v Speaker 1>this win and then going to the Bybwiek. That's so,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the main goal. Carl has been in for two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five defensive snaps this year, forty four

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the Bengals total, which is slightly up from

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<v Speaker 1>forty two percent last year, and although he is clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not satisfied with it, Pro Football Focus has him ranked

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<v Speaker 1>number eight in the NFL among edge rushers in generating pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now time for this week's No The Faux segment and

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<v Speaker 1>to learn more about the Buccaneers. Rick Stroud, who covers

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<v Speaker 1>the team for the Tampa Bay Times, joined Lapping Me

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals Game Plan Show. Rick, thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming out of the showton I greatly appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with a key injury for the Buccaneers. They

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<v Speaker 1>lost a bit of linebacker Kwon Alexander. Head coach Dirk

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<v Speaker 1>Cutter called him the heart and soul of the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even the team. How big a blow is that

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, And what are the Bucks going to

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<v Speaker 1>do to replace him? Well, yeah, it's enormous. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they've been bad on defense pretty much all year. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually had maybe his best half of football before he

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<v Speaker 1>tore his ACL you know, when he was a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>they were six and six under Lovey Smith and he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being suspended before games for Pegs and they

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<v Speaker 1>lost all four. So, you know, he's a very valuable player.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can really replace him. First, say

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to put a dairy A Taylor who's the linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>has played a lot of positions at the mic, linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>Lavante David, who's a Pro Bowl player, will will fall

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<v Speaker 1>the place. He's gonna wear that green helmet and have

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<v Speaker 1>the communicator. But it's given me very hard to try to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fill that boy. They're gonna have to do

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<v Speaker 1>it with everybody. You know, in the typical cliche, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else has to play a little larger because Kuan, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy that's really sidelined the sideline and it

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<v Speaker 1>just brings that fire in passion as you need as

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<v Speaker 1>a leader of the defense. Well, who's going to play

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<v Speaker 1>that strong side outside linebacker? You got your backup is

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<v Speaker 1>on ir with a knee injury. They signed Kevin Minter.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is gonna line up at that

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<v Speaker 1>other the strong side outside linebacker spot. Yeah, when they

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<v Speaker 1>go based defense, it'll be DeVante Bond. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that's been here for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>He was injured in training camp. They reached an injury settlement.

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<v Speaker 1>The timing was kind of good for the Bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>that they had a couple of players that were eligible

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<v Speaker 1>to resign with them because they've been out for six

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and was one of them. Now he's only had

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really one week of practice, so but he's

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<v Speaker 1>played before. Um, not exactly a frontline guy. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when teams are in three receivers or three wide or more,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you know, you're a nickel sixty six percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. But that's who will start there for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What Gerald McCoy missed last week because of a calf,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't practice today with the calf. You've already missed your shortstop,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra a middle linebacker. If your catcher's out, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be strong up the middle in baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>defensively end football. If you if McCoy didn't go and

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander doesn't go, man, that's that's a big blow up

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, isn't it. Yeah, you're losing. You're right, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>You build that defense that way, and you know they

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>they've gotten a little fortunate. Um, I guess if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it that that um, you know, bo

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<v Speaker 1>Allen has come back off an injury. Vita Vea, who

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<v Speaker 1>was their first round pick out of Washington, he's only

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<v Speaker 1>played in three games. It's sort of the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>him playing now preseason, so this would be like his

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<v Speaker 1>first game instead of the you know, sixth game or

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 1>seventh game of the year. But um, you know those

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>are those are two guys that did a nice job.

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>They actually had their best game rushing the passer against

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the Browns. I may say more about the Browns, but

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>they did have five sacked and Jason Pierre Paul has

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<v Speaker 1>just been phenomenal. I mean he's coming here after being

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<v Speaker 1>traded by the Giants and has six sacks already in

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<v Speaker 1>six games, and lots of tackles and and just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of been another guy that's been the emotional, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>an emotional leader for them on defense. We are visiting

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<v Speaker 1>with Rick Stroud from the Tampa Bay Times. The Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>are number one in the NFL and passing yards next

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<v Speaker 1>to last in rushing yards. Why such an imbalance, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you really look at it, the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games when Fitzpatrick was playing, they got up

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<v Speaker 1>on teams really fast, and you know in those situations,

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, they just didn't have the ball very much.

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have many rushing attempts. And then in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games, particularly Chicago, they got behind the early

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>by five pets downs they weren't able to run it.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 1>So it's sort of been not by design to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the same token. I mean, if you look at their weapons,

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the way they want to attack you is through the air,

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you've got Mike Evans and you know

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Cameron Braid and O. J. Howard a tight end, and

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Sean Jackson got off to a great start, Chris Godwin

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>is playing really really well. Adam Humphries comes and plays

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<v Speaker 1>in the slot, so they have so many receivers, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why they leave the NFL in passing that they

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>want to get the ball in their playmaker's hands, and

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times the best way to do that

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is to throw it. It's interesting not just the yard

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>but the first downs. Twenty four first downs rushing fewest

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, one hundred and eleven first down passing

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>most in the NFL. That eighty seven differential between first

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>downs on the ground and in the air, biggest differential

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. So, I mean, they are definitely and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess for the reasons you said, and most importantly

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I think the weaponry. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Bengals. It's going to be an interesting matchup

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.719
<v Speaker 1>for me because the Bengals have had their tight end

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>position decimated, so you know, they get questions there. They've

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>had their linebacker position decimated, questions there. Tampa Bay's got

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>their linebacker position decimated, questions there. The only plus Tampa

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 1>is tight ends, and that matchup, in the all important

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>matchup in today's NFL, tight end on linebacker. Everything's hurt

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and except the Tampa Bay tight ends. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that that could be a big advantage in this game. Oh,

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I think so. I mean, you know, those matchups are tough,

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>um even against you know, the front line players that

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 1>are that are on the field, let alone guys that

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>are hurt. So you know, whether you try to man,

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've got O. J. Howard is sick sick

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and what like forty five pounds, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know Cameron Braid is six to five. And these guys

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<v Speaker 1>can really go up and catch the ball. I mean,

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>they have good ball skills, their red zone weapons. You

0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>know when you sprint, when they spread out and they

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>go empty, which is quite a bit. You know, you

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>can play zone if you want to, but if you

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>go man to man, it's gonna be somebody's gonna be

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're gonna find the right guy. And that's

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>what they've been doing. I mean, they're on a historic

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>pace and go for over seven thousand yards this year.

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if they can keep that up. With

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<v Speaker 1>the way the rules have sort of morphed in favor

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of the passing game, and Jamis Winston and of course

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Finzpatrick have you know, thrown for over seventy percent. It's

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>really something to watch when they get it going now,

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>They've not finished drives, they've they've hurt themselves in the

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>red zone. They've been their own worst enemy there. And

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>on defense, they're not taking the ball away and Cincinnati has.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>So you know, those are the things that would help

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals is their ability to get turnovers. A couple

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>more questions for Rick Stroud, who covers the Bucks to

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Times two years ago, the Bucks look

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>like a team on the rise nine and seven and

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Jamis Winston's second year picked to be on hard knocks,

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Why have they regressed in your opinion? Well, I think

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>they over the Skis that year in part because of

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the hard knocks, and you know, really they didn't draft

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>any defensive players per se on the defensive line really

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 1>for about four years. Jason Light neglected that side. So

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>he went out and completely rebuilt this defensive line with

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Bo Allen and Vinny Curry, who's hurt. You know, the

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:21.239
<v Speaker 1>guys I mentioned with Vita Vea and JPP. So you know,

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>they just weren't good enough on defense, and it showed.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>That's why Mike Smith is no longer here in part

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of the n't have any players. But you know, since

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>then you know, Jamis got hurt. Last year he missed

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>three games with an injury, he played three he probably

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have played in, and this year he was suspended

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the first three. So they've just not had the kind

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of continuity at the quarterback position or really the defensive

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>personnel to make them a complete football team. Mark Jeffner,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>one of my all time favorite people linebacker coach up

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.719
<v Speaker 1>here with the Bengals before you know, earlier in his career,

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>takes over for Mike Smith. That had to be a

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>tough decision for sure, for Dirk Cutter. I know they're

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>very close friends. But it looked like Mike was very

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>aggressive and a lot of blitzing and get burned. Looked

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>like against Cleveland. Mark Duffner decided to let's calm it down,

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's play shell coverage, a lot of too deep safety,

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's play coverage and three men rush drop eight,

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>four men rush drop seven and make them go on

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>sustained drives. And it seemed to have worked out. Is

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that the way it looked to you, guys, And do

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:22.959
<v Speaker 1>you think you're gonna you're gonna see more of that

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and less aggressiveness and all out getting after its stuff. Yeah,

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly what he did. He tried to

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>simplify things. They got a very young secondary. They're playing

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>three rookies, which is hard to do, as you know,

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 1>you can't get those guys experienced. So Carlton Davis and m. J.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Stewart and Jordan Whitehead back there, they wanted to make

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>sure they didn't turn guys free, and that's what they

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>had been doing. They'd been turning receivers just absolutely loose.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>So they played a lot more covered to shell. What

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>they did well was on third down they got off

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the field, you know, when they got him in third

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and longs. Then they came after him a few times.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>They did get the five stack, four man rush got home.

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>So duff is great. I mean, he's seen so much

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in this game. He's really embraced this challenge. The players

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>love him, as you know, he's got nicknames for all

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of them. He helped recruit most of them. So he's

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>been awesome. And then I think the guys are excited

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to play for him. You know one thing about Mark Duffner.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Every day is a good day. I don't care what

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the weather is, I don't care what kind of problems.

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Every day is a good day when you're around Mark Dufter.

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>That guy's the most positive guy I've ever met. He's awesome,

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think that was something they needed. And nothing

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>against Mike Smith, but you know they're they're playing hard

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.239
<v Speaker 1>for Duff and they really do enjoy him, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Rick Strout, and that's going to do it

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