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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>you all about that here today on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the news. I can't even say this with

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<v Speaker 1>a straight face. An interesting private meeting reportedly took place

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Shane McMahon and Tony Kahan and I could

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>Rarely am I so excited? I don't even care if

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<v Speaker 1>you're here? Rarely am I so excited to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a story as I am today?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Good?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I sit out? And this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>nine minute Brian opening?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can if you want to, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to talk, all right. We all want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about an interesting private meeting reportedly took place this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna read this from Wrestlingobserver dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm gonna go an interesting private meeting reportedly took

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<v Speaker 1>placed this week. Shane McMahon is said to have met

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<v Speaker 1>with Tony Kahan on to discuss possibilities moving forward Wreussell

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<v Speaker 1>Talk and Fight forul A reporting the meeting was held

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<v Speaker 1>in Arlington, Texas, where aw is running a residency at

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<v Speaker 1>the Esports Stadium until mid August. Russell Talk obtained the

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<v Speaker 1>below image of the meeting, which we'll talk about in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Rumors regarding Shane McMahon to AWD began last

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<v Speaker 1>month when Conrad Thompson mentioned on a podcast that he'd

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<v Speaker 1>heard McMahon sent feelers to the company. However, Tony Kahn

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<v Speaker 1>told Dave Meltzer he had never met or spoken to McMahon.

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<v Speaker 1>Meltzer also later wrote that McMahon had never seriously pushed

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the company. One person noted to US

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<v Speaker 1>said Dave that there was a conversation between McMahon and

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<v Speaker 1>an ex WWE tallent inn AW. It was described as

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<v Speaker 1>not a pitch to get in or anything, just two

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<v Speaker 1>people chatting when McMahon said something to the effect of,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine if I walked out there on dynamite?

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<v Speaker 1>I heard the rumor he might be interested, said Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Kahan too, sports illustrated. I've never met Shane, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of mutual friends. I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of respect for him as an executive and a professional wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dying here. Shane is always welcome in AW. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was an instant where McMahon and Mercedes had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance encounter at an airport as well. And I will say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, I may be a fool here. I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe that that was in fact a chance meeting. Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>so I.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard us poors don't have a chance to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the Delta Club much or anything like that. That's where

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<v Speaker 3>the mighty mingle.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard about this earlier this morning. I was mildly amused.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I saw the photograph. Have you said, I

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<v Speaker 1>have guys seen the photo? Please please put please tell

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<v Speaker 1>me you've seen the photo of Tony Khan and Shane McMahon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's out there now.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose it's possible, Okay, it's possible that this is

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of photoshop. Okay, However, this photo has been

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<v Speaker 1>out for hours and hours and hours, and at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is this. It's either real or if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a photoshop. Tony Khan wants you to believe it's real

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody has Oh, you know, it's not real, etcetera, etcetera. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna presume for the sake of argument that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a legitimate photograph. Okay, it's like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like after dark. I gotta explain this photograph to people

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<v Speaker 1>of Bigfoot. There there's a long desk. Tony is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in front of it. There a chair on the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>side of the table. Shane McMahon is leaning against it.

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<v Speaker 1>They are both looking at the camera. Shane McMahon is

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<v Speaker 1>merely looking stern and Tony Kahan is like this, He's

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<v Speaker 1>got his hand on his face. Ah, I've been caught now.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this photograph. I howled, I cried with laughter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the funniest frickin' photograph you've ever seen in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Dying Okay, and when I saw it immediately. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what anybody says. Okay, I don't care. I know

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<v Speaker 1>some people don't like this word. I'm gonna use it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not be a mark. You cannot convince me that

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<v Speaker 1>this photo was not leaked by Tony Khan, either leaked

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<v Speaker 1>by Tony Khan or approved to be leaked by Tony kan.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys don't get it. This guy, Tony, nice guy,

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<v Speaker 1>been on our show, Friendly Chap. I'll tell you one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this guy. He is so paranoid about leaks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the stories I could tell you, this guy is petrified

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<v Speaker 1>of anything getting out. I've heard stories of like you

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<v Speaker 1>would be like what you go to a show. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even put like the lineup of the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>like who beats you or anything anywhere backstage. It's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>completely secret, and it's been like this for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I've mentioned before, it's it's actually hilarious because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I talked to a lot of people there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have for years. Okay, I think maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>one time ever a person directly told me a finish

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<v Speaker 1>of an upcoming match. Once, okay, once in all these years,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear a lot of other things, but like nobody

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<v Speaker 1>spoils who beats who or things like that. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's so paranoid he he won't even tell anybody

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing, who's beating who, whatever. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I can figure out the finish of ninety nine point

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of these matches just because I know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how this guy books. There's nothing being leaked, No thing

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<v Speaker 1>that being leaked is his brain. So anyway, he's all paranoid.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't like anything getting out. Everything is like. So

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<v Speaker 1>the point of this is, from what I know stories

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard, there is no chance somebody walked in on

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<v Speaker 1>this meeting, took a photograph tony ah and then they

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<v Speaker 1>fled and they put it out on the internet. No chance, zero, zilch,

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<v Speaker 1>not a chance in the world. Okay, so he wants

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<v Speaker 1>it out there. Why, Well, I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any inside of information on this one,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Shane's coming in. I think he's coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you leak this? Why would you allow this

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<v Speaker 1>to go out on the internet if you did not

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<v Speaker 1>intend to bring this man in? Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>Because somebody did it without their knowledge and would get

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<v Speaker 3>fired for it, and we'd have a rebuttal and some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of statement. But we haven't gotten any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe Shane is coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Shane what wressell to hang out with m JF colly.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, look, don't tell me that Darby Allen and Shane

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<v Speaker 3>McMahon in the same sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, Do you remember Shane McMahon's last WWE entering appearance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I'm bringing in.

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<v Speaker 1>He tore both quads, if I recall correctly. Yeah, Well

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<v Speaker 1>in the first, the second, the first seconds of this match,

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<v Speaker 1>old as Shane, he's older than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't Matt Hardy fall off a fortlift onto his head

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<v Speaker 3>onto concrete, didn't Darby Allen dive off of.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fifty four years old, dude, fifty four years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Not in Shane McMahon's mind, he's not. That's the problem

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<v Speaker 3>goes out there every time he Well, don't worry. He'll

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<v Speaker 3>be able to be controlled by Tony Kahn and be

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<v Speaker 3>able to be very limited in what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been so disgusted with something you said on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Stop already, Well, I mean we'll see.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey.

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<v Speaker 3>It got people talking. It got people talking for good

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<v Speaker 3>and for because the first thing that I saw were

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of aw fans just rolling their eyes, hating

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<v Speaker 3>the idea, hating the thought. But it also got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people talking into oh my god, what if

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<v Speaker 3>Shane was there? And then their fantasy booking minds go,

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<v Speaker 3>what if he was with m JF. What if he

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<v Speaker 3>does do this? What if he runs into Christian? What

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<v Speaker 3>is Christian gonna say to him?

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<v Speaker 1>So Shane versus Miss with Snoop as a RAF, was

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<v Speaker 1>that Shane's opponent? Okay, yeah, brother, I watched that match.

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<v Speaker 1>The first guy'd hires Snoop. He was the best guy

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<v Speaker 1>in that match by Miles.

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<v Speaker 3>Best guy at the Olympics. Right now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what else is going on over there in France, but

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<v Speaker 3>I know Snoop Dogg is over there having a field day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back in a moment abs your life.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Simpervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been asked by one of my beloved subscribers on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>y fine ladies and gentlemen there at Brian Alvarez At

0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Brian Alvarez. I only respond to my Twitter subscribers. Got

0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a question, ask, I'll answer. I may even do an

0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Ama today as the kids call it, only for my

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter subscribers. But anyway, they said, you got a fantasy book,

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<v Speaker 1>this Shane thing. Okay, believe it or not. I can

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<v Speaker 1>do this. It is actually easy, okay, And I actually

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a terrible idea, all right. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>this man needs to be nowhere near creative, though. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to worry about that because I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>any chance of Tony handing over creative to Shane McMahon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not gonna happen, Okay. I wish he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>just like anybody else, makes some offers, offer some ideas. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't taken over creative, so we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that. If that's your concern, okay, I'd be

0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.840
<v Speaker 1>fine with Shane book and Ring of Honor. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's happening either. But the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is he absolutely, do you understand me, absolutely positively cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be an inn ring performer. Okay. I don't mean this

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<v Speaker 1>in a flippant way, but this is for health reasons. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be it would be just wrong to let

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<v Speaker 1>this man wrestle at fifty four years old. Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is no. The answer is no. Now, there is

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<v Speaker 1>an easy storyline which I actually like, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>that Shane McMahon buys the Young Bucks aw shares and

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes the Heel half owner. Because listen, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know everyone's gonna say it's a stupid idea, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it. Whatever, Okay, but here's the deal. We're

0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:22.359
<v Speaker 1>already doing that. Okay, You've already got the Young Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>as like the heel owners, and Tony is the babyface owner.

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<v Speaker 1>And when this whole thing started, it actually made a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of sense because Tony got injured, he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to the shows, and so the storyline was when

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<v Speaker 1>the Young Bucks are at the shows because Tony's not

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<v Speaker 1>there and their EVPs they get to make all of

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<v Speaker 1>the rules. So they made all the rules and there

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<v Speaker 1>was no Tony con there to stop them. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like two weeks later. Tony comes back. He's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, like the Young Bucks inexplicably are still heel

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<v Speaker 1>owners and they make these decisions, and Tony makes these decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's never explained, like, why can't Tony override these

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<v Speaker 1>two EVPs? They make a horrible decision for the When

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<v Speaker 1>did Tony just say, not happening, I'm back, I'm in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>There's never been an explanation for it. Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>say both of them and now, hangman, since you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's uh, he's under their thumb or what who are

0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the other EVPs right now? It's it's those two and

0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.399
<v Speaker 1>uh Omega who he's out of action so he has

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<v Speaker 1>no voting power. But anyway, the point is they they

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<v Speaker 1>sell all of their their stock to uh Shane and

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<v Speaker 1>hey listen.

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<v Speaker 3>And the consortium was me Vince.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I'm not. I'm not a huge Shane McMahon fan,

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<v Speaker 1>never have been, but as a as a heel owner,

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<v Speaker 1>and his role is merely to be the mouthpiece for

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<v Speaker 1>the heels. The Young Bucks their their their job is

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<v Speaker 1>to go do matches. Okay, their job is not to

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<v Speaker 1>do the not to do all the talking. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever watch The Young Bucks, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>Nick never wants to talk anyway. So you have Shane

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<v Speaker 1>out there to do it. He's the guy that gets

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<v Speaker 1>the heat, you know, he's a big name whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's the one that makes all the terrible decisions. And

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<v Speaker 1>you go that way, I think, if you're gonna do it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna bring the guy in, I can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of anything else that you do with him than that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna come out and hug Tony like Bischoff and

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<v Speaker 1>Vince and they killed the invasion angle dead. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just there's bad guy McMahon, good guy Tony. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and it's gonna go what for perpetuity?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I mean the way that Tony books. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be a fifteen year storyline.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem there is, then, in my opinion, then you

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<v Speaker 3>continue on with this really stupid storyline. And to me, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if that's the storyline for a guy like me, a

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<v Speaker 3>fan like me who was watching this in my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the countdown? Then to Shad Khan because that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's fine, that's fine. I'm all over Shad as

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<v Speaker 1>an on screen character.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem is he doesn't want to be Tony.

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<v Speaker 3>Khan did a terrible job following up. Yes, the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>with the draft and all that, Yeah, he had to

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.679
<v Speaker 3>play into all that. But then there was when he

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<v Speaker 3>came to the show again. Ice Fine, he's just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of here. The EVPs have no cut contracts. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>they can run wild, why they can't be demoted. We

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<v Speaker 3>have absolutely no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just overrule like they were for years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony always got to make the decisions like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>None of it, none of it really makes sense. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we had these battles between these factions and legions

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<v Speaker 3>that were big. It was anarchy in the arena. It

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<v Speaker 3>was blood and guts. What were they all fighting for?

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<v Speaker 3>They were all kind of fighting. So you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>let it go to me. If you're gonna bring him

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<v Speaker 3>in and you want to utilize them, utilize them with MJF.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to bring up talk. That's not the point.

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Nick boch Wickham could talk.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had Bobby Shane McMahon and MJF. Yes, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't at.

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<v Speaker 3>All Long Island. He can incorporate the hardcore, mean street

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<v Speaker 3>posse of Connecticut into the mix, and let me tell

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<v Speaker 3>you something, you don't think it would go through Tony

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<v Speaker 3>Kahan's mind to bring back the Mean Street possible. They've

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<v Speaker 3>brought back everything else, They've done a tribute to everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, why not that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you're gonna bring in a McMahon, you've got

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 1>to do con versus McMahon. Okay, And actually you know

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know how they do it. I actually had another idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when Vince brought in Eric Bischoff and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh my god, And the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>they did was hug one of the dumbest things in

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>wrestling history. Well, you have Tony Khan come out, introduce

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Shane McMahon, and they also hug, and then Shane kicks

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<v Speaker 1>him in the balls and reveals that he's bought the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks share. And I also, if you all in the

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<v Speaker 1>chat here, they're like Shane backstage to help business in

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<v Speaker 1>some way? Yes, on screen character? No, do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know I mean this in the nice way possible? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know nothing about anything?

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<v Speaker 3>Your way?

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Better off? Shane is an on screen authority figure than

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything backstage. What do you what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is good for backstage? Historically creative? He has

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely zero creative you know, he has no experience whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a lot of enthusiasm. He always had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of ideas, but a lot of his ideas were

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>He never heard about good Shane McMahon ideas.

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 3>But then again, look if he was so influen by

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<v Speaker 3>ECW and he liked things like pride and other things

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<v Speaker 3>like that, boy, that would fit right in with the

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Kahan mind frame, would it not?

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<v Speaker 1>How many of how many of Shane's non WWE businesses

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<v Speaker 1>are still around? You want him to run the business.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that, not you.

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, but you would want to let him.

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And no, he didn't book Royal Rumble twenty twenty two.

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>He tried. He tried to book that Royal Rumble and

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>his father sent him home.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get into a fight with Brock?

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>They ain't get a fight with him, but they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we are doing this. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>But you want him to book Ring of Honor? In

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 3>your scenario, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna watch it. Listen, I'd let you book a Ring

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<v Speaker 1>of Honor. Okay, just get Ring of Honor off Tony's plate.

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Let him do dynamite collision or rampage. Have anybody? Anybody

0:24:55.880 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>can do a Ring of Honor? I don't care. So yeah,

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>if Jane wants a book a Ring of Honor, fine,

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it might be so nutty. I might watch it. I

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but.

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 3>Hey maybe maybe maybe David Zaslof is feeling really old school?

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Luca Gato, anybody, okay, anybody, Kevin Nash Lennon book

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honor, Vince Russo Lennon booker Ring of Honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that'd be a good one. Anybody like, anybody booker

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honor? Just take it away from Tony so

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>we can do the main shows. Hey, you heard me,

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Brian Vince Russo booking modern day Ring of Honor?

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<v Speaker 3>Why not?

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what is AW? It's like the I'm not

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 1>on anything.

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh you're on one today, pel Guice.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't get it. Who watches a Ring of Honor? Okay?

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I watched the pay per views and everything, all right,

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>But who watches three hour hours of weekly TV or

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever every week? Not a lot of people? Okay, and listen,

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>do we not all agree that AW was much better

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>booked before he bought and started booking Ring of Honor? Yeah?

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So like some of you have already said, why don't

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>they just fold a ring of honor and just like

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>kill the thing and just use the tape library. Well, dude,

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna do that, just let Russo book it.

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Who cares? Let somebody else book it any Like I said,

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>anybody Paysley wants to book it, that's fine.

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think I'd rather have that than Vince Russo.

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Or I don't know, man, give me something I can

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>tear apart every week. I mean, what is what is AW?

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like the modern day version of World Championship Wrestling.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>The idea is wcwold. It was good like ninety five,

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>ninety six, ninety seven. So hey, just let you know

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Russo he can he can book the AW version of

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>thunder Good Lord on a Club.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh, can we bring back above average Mike Sanders. He's

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 3>still around.

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's still around. It should be well above

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>average now in some ways far below average and others.

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>One would think, as you age, are we done talking

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>about this yet? When we come back from the break,

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<v Speaker 1>more news and then I'm gonna talk about NXT, which

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>was an actual well booked show, especially that main event

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone ever, I tell you to not read the comment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the actually with someone on my Twitter. This time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have what he's having. He said, Guys, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be one of those things gonna live on an

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<v Speaker 1>infamy because no one just understands what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm trying to make this so simple

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. Okay, Tony is doing too much. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys understand He's trying to book dynamite rampage collision hours

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and hours of Ring of Honor every week and these

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honor pay per views. He's doing too much.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know this. Everybody listening to this knows this.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Even if you're a fan of Ring of Honor, you

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>know deep down the guy's doing too much and that

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the booking is has been different since he took over

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a Ring of Honor. He's just got too much to do.

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Can we like who doesn't agree with this? Because I

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>want to. I want to see the people that don't

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>agree with this that he's got too much on his plate.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Ran how long have we been on? Wait? God? God?

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm advocating for is for somebody to take

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>over Ring of Honor booking from Tony. I didn't say

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the best man for the job would be Vince Russo.

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>What I said was I don't care you want Vince

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Russo to do it? Fine, what's the problem with Vince

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Russo's booking. Well, he's terrible, doesn't know what he's doing. Okay,

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>but is there a television deal at stake with Vince

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Russo booking Ring of Honor? Are we worried about ratings

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>for Ring of Honor which doesn't have ratings? Are we

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>worried about tanking Ring of Honor house shows which don't exist?

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Are we worried about taking Ring of Honor tv TA

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>numbers which don't exist because they do it in association

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>with the other aw television shows. What difference does it make?

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>That's my point. Forget the Vince Russo name. What difference

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>does it make who is booking Ring of Honor? As

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>long as you take that off Tony's plate. The fact

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>is it doesn't matter. You're not affecting business negatively in

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>any way by having Santa Claus book it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you are, in theory, you are because you still

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>have merchandise to sell. You still have an Honor Club,

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Yah people are signed up for. You still have those

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 3>shows like Death Before dishonor that you can pimp out

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>his eye pay per views for those people who are

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 3>not Honor Club subscribers. So there's two separate things here. Yes,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 3>of course it should be off his plate. How he

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>can do all of this. You got football season coming up.

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Anything that he has to do with the Jaguars is,

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, added to the mix. You got whatever he

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 3>does for Craven Cottage or or full of wherever the

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>hell the football team does. He's spread too thin, obviously,

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 3>and he wants to maintain control on some things as

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 3>other things are so hectic and manic. And it's been

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 3>that way. I'm not saying since day one, for a

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<v Speaker 3>lot longer than people maybe want to believe that it

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 3>has been.

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<v Speaker 9>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he could use some extra time on his hands

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 3>by leaving ringing of honor in the hands of somebody

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.439
<v Speaker 3>else lockstock, and barrel, with the exception of a couple

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 3>of people he may want to keep an eye on

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 3>for the aw roster or who may fit into his plans. Okay,

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 3>I keep fine, But the thing is then turn it

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 3>over to somebody that matters, because you tind people there

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 3>whose jobs actually you know and livelihoods depend on it,

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 3>and whose you know, creativity and whose development depend on

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 3>who is there. So yeah, I would say leave in

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 3>the hands of a Dustin Rhodes as opposed to Jacob.

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<v Speaker 1>I never said the best best option or Bishop or Nash.

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Just throw it a name.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Jacobs. Is there people I'm sure know him. He's

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 3>got a ton of ideas. Some people love them.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not arguing all these people wouldn't be better. I'm

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>not arguing that Paisley wouldn't be better than Vince Rusa.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 3>But argument it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think you know I said it doesn't

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>matter because everything that you mentioned, like merchandise and etcetera, etcetera.

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>One could argue that if you took all of that

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>work off Tony's plate, and he had the ability to

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>take all of that attention and focus it on the

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>main aw product, that conceivably it would improve to the

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>point where he would sell more merch and sell more

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>tickets and sell more pay per views, because it's the

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.919
<v Speaker 1>one thing that he is focusing on instead of you. Ever,

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I read a good book once, what's that

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>which one? I can't remember what it was called, but

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the point of it was, sometimes you have to focus

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>on the one thing, the one thing, instead of like

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>all of your attention being diverted in a million different places.

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>What is the one thing? I do this with my

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>kids all the time because their kids and like their

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>brains going fifty thousand directions. It's like, what is the

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>one thing that is important right now? Okay? It's not

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that stuffy. It's getting your shoes on and getting in

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the car. Okay, So that's the one thing we're doing

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 1>right now, is just we're getting in the car. After

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that we can worry about something else. But what's the

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>one thing that is important right now? What is the

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>one thing that is the most important thing? For Tony Kahan,

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 1>it's Dynamite, Rampage and Collision, which pay all the bills,

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>all the bills with the exception of pay per views,

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, every couple months. It's so sweet television shows.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Ring Vonnor is not the one thing that's the most important.

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It is taking away from your one thing that is

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the most important. And if you took that off of

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>his plate, it's possible that if you could trade on

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the one thing, things might improve perhaps a lot. So

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I would make that sacrifice, That's what I would do.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, I'm not Tony Kahan, nor am

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I Sean Michaels, who did a fine job yesterday with

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 1>that great American Bash show.

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 3>You're Paul Harvey, and that was the rest of the story.

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>That's the rest of the story. I wish I had

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>my other mic here anyway. The main event of this show,

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>should I get it? What did you think of NXT?

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was actually a really good show, I

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 3>actually believe for all the nonsense, and there was a

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 3>ton of nonsense on there, but when he got down

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 3>to the actual wrestling portions of the proceedings, everything was

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 3>actually pretty good. The Brian's gonna talk about the six

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 3>woman match with soul Roka and all that sort of stuff,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 3>and he's probably going to say, yes, there were too

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 3>many spots that were planned out ahead of time, but

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 3>it actually rolled on was really smooth. But the main

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 3>event was the best part of the show, and that

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 3>was fa Hale falling in her attempt to wrest the

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 3>NXT Women's Championship from Roxanne Perez. That was the match

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 3>you need to go out of your way and see.

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And now the rest of the story. I did all

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of that for that. Yes, I'm gonna keep that nearby

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>in case I need it exactly. The now May event

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of this show was Roxanne Perez Thehale for the NXT

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:34.959
<v Speaker 1>women's title. Why, well, I know why because they need

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>like talent women to work with the women who are

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>not talented yet. Yes, but these two should be on

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the main roster. I mean, good, lord, well Fallon should

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>be as well, but I mean Fallon's good. But like,

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>these two are just flat out great. They're better than

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>most of the women on the main roster. Fa hale. Dude,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>she's twenty, she's actually I think she's about to turn twenty.

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 1>She might be twenty now, she like nineteen or twenty

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but she is so great. Rock Sand is

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>so great natural and they had a great match. The

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>crowd is going nuts for this match. They love THEA Hail.

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>They're totally invested in THEA they hate rock Sand and

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the heat for this match was so good and they

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>had such a great match and rock Sande finally hit

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 1>her with the pop rocks and pinder. This main event

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>was awesome. It was flat out awesome. So what a

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>great finish the Great American Bash. And honestly, I gotta say,

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, speaking of the women, the other best thing

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>on the show besides the main event was I'm not

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>taking credit for it. But thank god, Solruka put her

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>beach hair back. She's back to having her old beach

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>hair again, like when she straightened her hair. I was

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>just that's like your trade right now. You look like

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>every other athletic blonde woman on this roster before you

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 1>were a surfer with your beach surfer hair, and you

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>stood out well. She brought it back this week, thank god.

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And they had fallon jac and Jasmine versus Lola, Carmen

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and Soul. And my only problem with this match is

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that and this is this is me being old and

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be like this anymore. But you know,

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>in the old days, you you had a plan, but

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it was not choreographs start to finish unless you were

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>doing that kind of match and you would listen to

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the crowd. You would you would get the crowd going,

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>you would hit a peek and go home. And they

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>had a planned long match and it got to the

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>point where the place was going nuts and it was

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>really good. I mean, it was a surprisingly good match

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>because you know, Soul is brand new, Jazzmin's brand new,

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Carmen's brand new, Lola's fairly knew. I mean there were

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of green women in this match, but it

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 1>was going along really well. And then like the place

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is going nuts for all these near falls, and I'm like, man,

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like they're gonna be the best women's match in

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 1>a long time. This was before the main event. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they kept going and they kept going and they

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<v Speaker 1>kept going, and the crowd went so like, by the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute, the crowd just like okay, you know, they

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>they lost the crowd. And then they went to the

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<v Speaker 1>finish and and as much as I love Fallon, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say one thing and hopefully this does. Her finish

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<v Speaker 1>sucks okay, because she does a it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a but the point of it is she hits the

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<v Speaker 1>move and it ends where it looks like the other

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<v Speaker 1>person hit her with a destino. The other person basically

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<v Speaker 1>gives her a face first, like a dastino bump, but

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<v Speaker 1>then she turns over and pins them. It's like what it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Bobby Lashley's flat liner. Just there's something aesthetically about

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<v Speaker 3>it that just doesn't work well.

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<v Speaker 1>She throws them up and their job is to go

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<v Speaker 1>behind her, and then she like hits a cutter or something.

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>But when she does it, it looks like she throws

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<v Speaker 1>them up and they counter into destino, but then she

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>covers them. So anyway, I don't like to finish because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>Still better than the cake stand.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not take stands cool, stupid, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Be old standing straight up like it's just tell me

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 3>how does it make sense? We'll save it for another show,

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<v Speaker 3>keep going. Even Lash Legend and Jakara Jackson had a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good match with the freaky WWE women's take.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I want to talk about that. I want

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a different women's match again, all women's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. I want to talk about you know

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>who I was very very impressed by.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I know who the top heel woman on the roster

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 3>when Roxanne goes up Jada Barker.

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<v Speaker 1>No really, Kendall Gray.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually yeah she was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many matches she's had. I think

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>she had her first match in like May, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking like a little over two months and man, she

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<v Speaker 1>so for those who don't know about Kendall Gray, like

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>she's she she was a great wrestler, an amateur wrestler, okay,

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and all everybody talks about is her wrestling, all right,

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>but she actually from like the age of ten, just

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.439
<v Speaker 1>she was such an athlete. She did everything. She did.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Gymnastics she did, like basketball, she did, she trained with

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Robert Drysdale in jiu jitsu. Then she got into amateur wrestling,

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and like she is an athlete, Like when you see

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>her move, it's like, wow, she can do anything. But

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not like you know, when they bring in the

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.919
<v Speaker 1>gymnasts who are also obviously athletes, what they make them

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>do is, oh, do this flip, do this twist, do

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>this flip? You just flip out of the corner as

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>if she's actually yes, and she rests and she does

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 1>her amateur stuff and she she's fast, and man, I

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>watched her and I was like, she's gonna be something

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if she can talk, because they

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>never let her talk or anything like that. All she

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:18.720
<v Speaker 1>does is beat up poor Miles Bourne.

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Guess what if she can't talk, stick her with rensin

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Claire because her being.

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 1>On rensen Claire is a is a volcano of charisma. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, honestly, for like the the first two months,

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like she's up there with Klonnie Jordan as far

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>as like I saw them two months and I was like,

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>holy smokes, Holy smokes, Kendall Gray, So keep an eye

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