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Speaker 1: not do that. He runs a four or five nine.

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00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: He is he is built solidly. He's five nine and

426
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: a half two nineteen, so he's thick, but he doesn't

427
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: run that fast. He's a chugger. Of a back and

428
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: he's got a stutter step style. He is built load

429
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: of the ground, so tacklers do bounce off of him.

430
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: He does have natural instincts to finish runs. But he's

431
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: a one cut and go guy. But he's not running

432
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: away from DB's in the open. If the Bill's drafted

433
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: running back, it won't be and it's not in the

434
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: first round, and maybe a third round, fourth round. Pierce

435
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: may be there. Yeah, he may be a round guy.

436
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: He might be a third rounder, just like just like

437
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: Zach Moss and Devin Singletary war he may be that

438
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: same guy. So he might be the eighty ninth to pick. Yeah,

439
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: So after I watched some tape on him there, Yes,

440
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: he has good hands. Out of the backfield. He ran

441
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: like swing wheel and steam routes, and he loves contact.

442
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: Even when the hole's plugged, he'll stick his head in

443
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: there and try to get you the tough yards and

444
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: breaks a lot of tackles. So he didn't pass pro.

445
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: He's aggressive on chips on the way out. So you

446
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: know what I wrote at the end of my thing,

447
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: I said, he reminds me a little of Travis Henry.

448
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: That's the kind of back he is. He's built low

449
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: to the ground, He's five nine and a half. He's solid,

450
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: and people just bounce off of him because he's got

451
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: such a low center of gravity, so his contact balance

452
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: is good. But much like Travis Henry, he's not a speedster.

453
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: He's a chuggar. So there's a place for that in

454
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: the NFL. I just don't know if it's the type

455
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: of back that the Bills are looking for. Yeah, we'll see.

456
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: He may be exactly what the Bills are looking for.

457
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: A guy who can, you know, just a physical runner

458
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: and a and a pass protector. I mean, let's face it,

459
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: if Josh you're gonna drop back thirty five times, put

460
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: him in. But arguably they have it. And Zach Moss,

461
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a physical runner, Yeah, yeah,

462
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Zach Moss had a hard time getting

463
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: on the feed he did. They might want to give

464
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: another guy another shot at it, which would then make

465
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: Zach Moss. And just just if you draft another Za Moss,

466
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: you're bringing in a third third rounder, you may just

467
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: bring him in just as competition, or if he's there

468
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: even in the fourth round, you know, one of those

469
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: kind of these like, well, we can't. We can't overlook

470
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: him now. But yeah, I I don't know that any

471
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: of the running backs were talking about Bruce Hall or

472
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: Walker the third, I don't know that any of them

473
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: are heading shoulders above anything the Bills put on the

474
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: field right now with particularly with since they just signed

475
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson. I think the only thing you could argue

476
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: was Bruce Hall's faster than all of them. He is

477
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: on the watch, Okay, that's about it. Can't pass pro, ya,

478
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: that's the one. But when he was in pass pro,

479
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: he would basically body up people and get in the way.

480
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: He's not an expert at it. You're right, um, So,

481
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: as you said last week, there really isn't a back

482
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: in the draft that's very good at it. You know,

483
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: the one guy who I saw who's pretty good at

484
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: it was the kid from LSU Tyreon, Davis Price. He's

485
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: probably gonna go, you know, third round. He's a Day

486
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: two borderline Day three player, ran a four four eight.

487
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: He's an athlete. I what I like about him. He's

488
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: like an old school high knees runner. Remember when those

489
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: guys used to run with high knees. That's how this

490
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: guy runs. He's good contact balance. But he's one of

491
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: the best guys I saw on tape in pass protection.

492
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: Really holds up well. Um. But again, another physical, downhill

493
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: type back. Not to make you missing the whole kind

494
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: of guy, right. Um. So yeah, it's it's what's your flavor, man,

495
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: it's what's your favors. Don't see running backs in this

496
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: draft as being demanding or or being worth or commanding

497
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: a first round pick. There might not be a single

498
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: back in the first round tonight. I mean there may be,

499
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I just think it's one max, right,

500
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: if you're learning on me, If you're giving me a

501
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: first round wide receiver or running back that you're gonna

502
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: reach a little bit for or running back, that's that's

503
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: the same as every other running back that you can

504
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: get in the third and second, third, and fourth round.

505
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: You're going to take the wide receiver every single time.

506
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: I would and there and based on where this game's going,

507
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: this draft is neck deep, just like the last four

508
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: of drafts are. This draft is neck deep, and wide

509
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: receivers we are gonna have pretty good pro careers. Yeah,

510
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: and I you know, I think you can get well,

511
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: like for instance, Duke Johnson, there are guys like Duke

512
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: Johnson everywhere on the landscape in the off season. So

513
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: and I just let's just take a deep breath and

514
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: back away from the running back talk for a minute.

515
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: I just and I get it. A lot of people

516
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: are in on it, and it sounds like a luxury

517
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: pick because this Bills are said. But I'm gonna go back,

518
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: go back to what I said at the very beginning.

519
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: The Bills are going to stay inside the lines of

520
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: their philosophy because man, they have built a juggernaut with

521
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Why would you do anything other the

522
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: big questions? Can you stay disciplined and do exactly what

523
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: we did last year? They did last year because Brandon

524
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: being after the draft, said I didn't expect the draft

525
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: two pass rushers my first two picks, but that's what

526
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: the board said. So that's what we did, right right.

527
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: I would expect them to continue along his line and

528
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: think about it, at the end of the year, they

529
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: got two starters out of those four picks and two contributors. Yeah,

530
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: so it was pretty good move. Let's go back to

531
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: the phones into Tim and Rochester. Next. What do you

532
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: got first? Tim? Jim? Actually, oh, it's Jim Okay, Yeah,

533
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry they wrote tim on here. That's all right.

534
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I got a couple after, and they're more to yours.

535
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: I believes, and Hill would be the defensive side for me.

536
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean speed four three and position flexibility. With the

537
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: Poyer situation, UM, I agree with you. They obviously draft

538
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: for traits. But my other one is Brief Hall. It

539
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: was a no on him until yesterday. Oh. I actually

540
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: watched his film made Flip incredible. Yeah, watching this, he

541
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: the old There's only two negatives that I can see.

542
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Steve brought it up pass pro. The only other one

543
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: is big twelve tackling is the only other one I

544
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: could see. Yeah, and the only and the only tackling catches. Yeah. Yeah,

545
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards receiving. Also when he's two time first

546
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: team All American, twenty fourth street games with a touchdown

547
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: six one two twenty and runs a four to three,

548
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: that's Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. And I don't think that people

549
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: gotta get including the media, gotta get the I know

550
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: backs are d valued, but Bean's got sixteen number one

551
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: UM grades. I guarantee you Breece Hall is one of

552
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: them because he has all he has at all except

553
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: for the you know, minor pass pro but he has everything.

554
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why people are disregard I was disregarding him,

555
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: so I actually looked at him. Yeah, he's I mean,

556
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: his tape is impressive. You're right about Big twelve tackling.

557
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: It's bad. It's not quite as bad as Pack twelve tackling,

558
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: but it's close. Um, but thanks for the call, Jim. Yeah,

559
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: I would. I would say this if Hall is the pick,

560
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: I could get behind it pretty easily. Um. There are

561
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: other preferences that I have, but I don't know everything.

562
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: Just like everybody else out there, we don't know everything

563
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: that the Bills know about these guys. They've got the

564
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: character background. They know about their families, they know about

565
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: their upbringings, they know what makes them tick. They know

566
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: what their mental capabilities are in terms of processing the game.

567
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: You know, are they a physical learner? Are they a

568
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: visual learn They know all of those things that we

569
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: just simply don't because we haven't been around the kid.

570
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Can they be taught? Yeah? It's interesting too. And here's

571
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: what you're up against with this stuff. The Bills know

572
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: this stuff for certain, and I'm just gonna read you

573
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: what they're fighting against I'm on a draft site right now.

574
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this Sybreece Hall School, Iowa State, age

575
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: twenty point nine, height five eleven, wait two seventeen, and

576
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: then go down to a little deeper in depth as

577
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: a little says. Iowa State may have taken a step backward,

578
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: but Hall was as strong as ever in twenty twenty one.

579
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: In fact, he raised his broken tackle to seventy four

580
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: after sitting sixty three tackles last year. He has an

581
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: all around skill set and an NFL size at six

582
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: one two twenty, well up above the exact same thing

583
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: I wrote. They said he's five eleven two seventeen, so

584
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: that's what he measured at the combine, five eleven two seventeen,

585
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: So that's probably official. Down at the bottom it says

586
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: he's six one two twenty. Yeah, he's not six twenty.

587
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: He's five eleven. Um, so you can bring him in

588
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: on this thirt event. You say, all right, you know,

589
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: can we wigh and measure you please? You know that

590
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Well, they weighed and measure him at

591
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: the combine. Those are pretty official all things can see absolutely,

592
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: and he's five eleven two seventeen. If that's part of

593
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: the thing. And that's why you know, we get we

594
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: get a call from Jim who goes and watches him

595
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: and I and I get it. Um, I'm hesitant to

596
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: put everything down on the highlight reels these guys put

597
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: out and that's the best of their play. It's the

598
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: best of the best. Yeah, it's there highlight film. That's

599
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: not their low light film. It's you know, let me

600
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: see that too. That's why the film that I usually

601
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: like to watch is when they show you all the

602
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: offensive snaps in a game against a give an opponent,

603
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: and I try to find the best opponent possible, Like

604
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: if they're like Iowa State in the Big twelve, you

605
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm trying to find the best

606
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: defense in the Big twelve against them. All right, let's go.

607
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Let's see him go against you know, Texas, A and

608
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: M him in those you know Texas, Oklahoma, all those schools,

609
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: a big you know, power five school. Let's see it. Yeah, Well,

610
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: A and M's in the sec net right, but you

611
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: get the points made. Yeah, you see him against We

612
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: pick an opponent, you go look at him if they

613
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: get it, if they play a Big ten school, if

614
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: I was State goes against Iowa and watch every snap,

615
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: don't just watch his five long yeah, and then I

616
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: know Bruce Hall's been in Buffalo along with you know,

617
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys. Um what they think behind

618
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: the scenes and what to do on the board. What's

619
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: his retention level when you draw up a play and

620
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: then you erase it off the board. You talked to

621
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: him for another ten minutes and then you say, hey,

622
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: go draw that play again. We just talked about does

623
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: how much if it does he remember? Does he remember

624
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: all of his assignments, all of his responsibilities, what his

625
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: read is after the snap, all of that stuff? What's yeah,

626
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: what's his attitude? How does he process enough on the board?

627
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't do well, how's he handled that?

628
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: All of that? So we'll see, Yeah, we'll see. We

629
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: have to take a break here when we come back.

630
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: More your phone call, So those are you holding at

631
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty? Stay right where you

632
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: are because we want to know who's your guy tonight

633
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: at pick twenty five. Give us your favorite. We've been

634
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: talking about it for the last three months. It's time

635
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: to show up and pick your guy. Let us know

636
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Speaker 1: who you want for the Bills at twenty five. You're

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health. It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live here

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Speaker 1: on Draft Day twenty twenty two, and we are here

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Speaker 1: to talk about pick twenty five with you. Who is

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Speaker 1: your guy at pick twenty five? You let us know

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00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty or on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet at one Bills Live. Next up for us

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Speaker 1: is Chris in Niagara Falls. Chris, who you got first

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Speaker 1: of all? Good afternoon, Chris and Steve. I like the

646
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: white receiver out of Alabama. If he is there, I

647
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: don't think we should pass on him. Jamison Williams. Yeah. Unfortunately,

648
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: everything that we're hearing is he is going to be

649
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Speaker 1: long gone. He figures to be one of the two

650
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: receivers off the board, So you liking him is very

651
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: much on the money. Unfortunately, it's you and everybody else

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League likes him, so we'd be

653
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Speaker 1: very surprised if he gets down to the Bills at

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Speaker 1: twenty I'll give you an idea of where we're at.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jamison Williams, Drake London, Garrett Wilson, those are

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Speaker 1: the top three, Chris o Lava, probably even George Pickens. Yeah,

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00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't there's yeah, there's a mixed bag on Pickens,

658
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: and maybe people that like him really like him. The

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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: people that don't will wait until round two. Yeah, so

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00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: you may have a shot. I don't think you may

661
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: have a shot at Jahan Dotson, Christian Watson. I'll probably

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: you got a shot at Skymore. You're gonna have a

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00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: shot at John Metchie. You're gonna have a shot at

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Speaker 1: anything other than that on the on the board, we're

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00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: looking at Garrett Wilson, Drakelin, Jamison Williams, Chris Olave, trailing Burkes.

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Speaker 1: Burkes is maybe and maybe Pickings Johnson is a Pickings

667
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: is not gonna fall that far. So all these other

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00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: guys they're gonna be off the board. But but like

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Speaker 1: you said, you're right, if if every if there's a

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Speaker 1: scare on Jamison Williams, yes, he'll be I've been here

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Speaker 1: a lot of talking, of course about that running back

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Speaker 1: out of IWA State. Bruce Hall. He is a special

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Speaker 1: as people say, is if he truly is, he was

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Speaker 1: compared to Jonathan Taylor with the Coats. Now, if he's available,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's If he's that special, I

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00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: can't I can't be a pass on him. I don't

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Speaker 1: really want to back in the first round. But if

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Speaker 1: he is that good, giving Josh their offense one more

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Speaker 1: weapon and running back. Another thing I want to add

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Speaker 1: before before I get off, there's my first time caller.

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Speaker 1: Why in the heck what are we talking about not

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00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: feeling a dome, not having a dome with the offense

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00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: that we're running that we have in Buffalo the years

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Speaker 1: to come. Why isn't that new stadium gonna have a

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00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: dome over it. I do not understand that one at all.

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00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: It's a cost issue. There's a lot of talk about

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Speaker 1: the price. What is it already like billions? Uh at

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00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: this point? Well, yeah, listen, I'll say this. I'll say this,

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00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: Christ be almost of another half a billion, Chris. If

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00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: our if our offense can run in, not everybody's can

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00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: because of our guy. I mean, if you're doing that,

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00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: if that's the logic, let's let mac Jones try and

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00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: throw in our stadium because our guy can, their guy can't.

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Speaker 1: And most of the time that's exactly what's going to happen.

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00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: It was if it was like that. But yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot into and plus the the research they did,

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Speaker 1: there's a time and I know you want, I know

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Speaker 1: you want a dome, and there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that do want to dome. You're hearing a lot from

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Speaker 1: We hear all the time from people who don't want

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Speaker 1: to who want a dome. But I know this, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who as long as the seats

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Speaker 1: are covered, they don't care if it's a dome or not. Yeah,

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00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: and almost all this and I'll say this covered by

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Speaker 1: an overhang. I'll say this too. I've said it for

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Speaker 1: This is just me talking. This is not research. This

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Speaker 1: is my observation from being around the National Football League

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Speaker 1: and going to all the stadiums that I went to

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Speaker 1: over a couple of decades. If they're gonna build a

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna build a dome stadium, you can say

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Speaker 1: goodbye to tailgating in the atmosphere outside the stadium and

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00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: pregame in Buffalo like it's been for a couple of decades.

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Speaker 1: It's all gone. It'll never happen because people will not

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Speaker 1: do it anymore. So if you want to say goodbye

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Speaker 1: to that, that's what a dome will do. I will

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Speaker 1: say that is the truth. In Atlanta, the tailgating is

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Speaker 1: limited at best because they know they're going inside to

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Speaker 1: watch a football game, So why are they going to

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Speaker 1: spend you know what I mean. So it's almost like

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Speaker 1: an unconscious thinking kind of thing. And Chris, thanks for

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00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: the calling. You're listening to the show. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: But Steve's rite about that there are some exceptions. They

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Speaker 1: do it in green Bay, that it's a big deal

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Speaker 1: in green Bay, and in fact, all the home like that,

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00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: like it's happening here in Orchard Park, the homes around

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Speaker 1: the eight and particularly in that in the section right

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00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: off the one Bill's Drive are being bought by fans,

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Speaker 1: by groups of fans, and they're being customized and there

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Speaker 1: their party hot houses. Hum, that's what happened in green Bay.

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Speaker 1: You see, go down to Dallas. They don't do that.

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Speaker 1: In Dallas they don't do it. And they don't do

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Speaker 1: it in Detroit. Downtown Detroit one place where I would

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Speaker 1: say they still tailgate, and they technically have a dome

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Speaker 1: as Houston, they do still tailgate down there, but it's

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Speaker 1: beautiful weather there. It's I don't know, do they tell

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Speaker 1: gate in Houston. I saw it the last time I

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Speaker 1: was there. They had a big barbecue thing, and um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not the same happen. They just don't because people

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00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: tend to treat it like a meeting. They show up,

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Speaker 1: go to the game, and leave an indoor event. Um,

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00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: it's an indoor thing, like a like a rock concert.

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00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: It's not like an event, an outdoor festival event, like

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Speaker 1: with an outdoor stadium. Now, the whole atmosphere would be

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00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: completely different if if that, if you had a dome,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Brad in Rochester next, but you got

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Speaker 1: first Brad. Hey, guys, um, I honestly think Breece Hall

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00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: would be a great pick at twenty five. But I'm

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00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: thinking we could probably get them if we traded back

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Speaker 1: with Seattle at forty and picked up a second and

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Speaker 1: a third round pick. I don't think you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: that much. You might get a fifth and a sixth. Well,

752
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, going according to the Magic

753
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: draft chart up to twenty five, we would get a

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Speaker 1: second and a third. Yeah, well you get there. If

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Speaker 1: you get two thirds, that would be phenomenal, and we

756
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: could get haul Metchi a linebacker, and then probably a

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Speaker 1: corner with those four picks. And will you say a

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Speaker 1: second and a third You mean the pick at forty

759
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: and then a third on top of that, right, correct? Yeah? What?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah? But what team's going to do that? Well,

761
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: a team that wants to get into the body there

762
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: if they missed out at nine on their infamous quarterback

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Speaker 1: they wanted and they wanted to come back for corral

764
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Speaker 1: which they've been real with. Then coming back up to

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Speaker 1: twenty five, the numbers all match up. They still get

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00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: the second round pick because they have that second one

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00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: from Jamal Adams trade, and they have or the Russia

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00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: Wilson trade, and they can give us a forty and

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Speaker 1: seventy three. I think, Yeah, I'm I'm all for the

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I mean, I'm all for picking

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00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: up a lot more picks. Um, I'm not. I don't

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00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: not listen. I hear people talking about Bruce hall Um.

773
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: I am not sold. But that doesn't mean I'm right.

774
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm just like you, you know, I mean everybody, he's

775
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: a talented It's a wide receiver league, not a running

776
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: back league. It's a wide receiver league, not a running

777
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: back league. And I'm I'm not putting running back ahead

778
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, and I don't, and I'm with you

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00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: on that. That's why I think Bruce Hall. To me,

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00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: he's a fallback option if you can't get out at

781
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: twenty five, if the cornerback values lousy, if the wide

782
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: receiver values lousy. If Dax Hill is off the board,

783
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: one of the best safeties in the draft, who I

784
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: think could play any position in the secondary. If he's

785
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: off the board and you've got no other options to

786
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: move out at twenty five, I could see Breeze Hall

787
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: being the pick. So what are the chances of that happening.

788
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: You're probably looking at fifteen to twenty percent chance of

789
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: that happening. I think there are other preferences that will

790
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: come before that. But short of moving out, which I

791
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: would be even in favor of that Brad brought up,

792
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm you want to give me forty and an extra three,

793
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: and I'm picking at fifty seven. Also, I'm doing that

794
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: because the meat and potatoes of the value of this

795
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: draft is between rounds two and four, and to give

796
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: me four picks now in that range he could get,

797
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: you'd get even if you shot fifty percent like the

798
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Bills have done. In the past. You're gonna get two

799
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: really good players on a team that's really good already,

800
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: and that's that means you're getting two really really good

801
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: players because they're gonna be good enough as rookie to

802
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: break into a roster that's already really really talented. So yeah,

803
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. If you can move down, I'm

804
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: all about it. The only part of Brad's plan that

805
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure works is I don't think Bruese

806
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Hall gets to forty. So if you like Breese Hall

807
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: and you want to move out and still get him,

808
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can have your cake and

809
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: eat it two. He's probably off the board by then.

810
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: We have to take a break. But more of your

811
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: phone calls. Next here on One Bills Live, presented by

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00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio on Draft Day.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, It's one Bills Live. It is

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Speaker 1: Draft Day twenty twenty two. Let's go pick twenty five.

815
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Speaker 1: Who's your guy? We want to know at the tweet

816
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: sheet at one Bills Live or at E three five fifty.

817
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: Back to the phones we go. Is it is all

818
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: you all day today? To cal in Grand Island, what

819
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: do you got for his cow? Hey, how are you

820
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: doing today? Good? Good? What I got for you is

821
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to I'd like to get eat Well, probably

822
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: the mccuffee kid corner out of Washington and or the

823
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: Booth Kid, because that's pretty much all we can probably get,

824
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: if it even happens to get so lucky to drop

825
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: down with us. Most of the drafts that I've been doing,

826
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: they don't even make it that far. But I did

827
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: like some trades as far as moved up to eighteen

828
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: and if we could do a little trade with Philadelphia.

829
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: I heard somebody on the radio earlier they said that

830
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: we can tract go all of up to eight and

831
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: trade with Atlanta and I the Matthew didn't work out,

832
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: according to the mass charterer didn't work off. The guy

833
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: that was on earlier on it from the Athletic or whatever,

834
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: try to get Hamilton, which would be a dream pick.

835
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's that's possible. So if we

836
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: can't get one of the two corners, I would love

837
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: to trade down. I agree with everybody about trading down,

838
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: but all the similator drafts as I've been doing, it

839
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: seems like you can probably you might even be able

840
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: to get Walker or Paul in the second round and

841
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: not a lot. But I think if we could trade up,

842
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: even keep our first round, what's the best available guy,

843
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: And you'd be surprised some of them drafts, like you

844
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: had even the linebacker Dean out of Georgia or the

845
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: defensive interior linement that big giant Davis kid. Not very

846
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: often but sometimes depending on where the quotbacs go, he's

847
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: dropped down there. And I'd love to get Dick guy too,

848
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: but I don't know. We'll see how it goes. But

849
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: I love this day. That's my favorite day of the year.

850
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: It's draft. It's like hitting toys for you're right, here's

851
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: here's here's what we know, and it's Christmas for adults.

852
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: We had Maddie Maddie and Maddie glad on yesterday. I

853
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: recommend everybody to go to Buffalo Bills dot com. Read

854
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Maddie stuff about the mock drafts and she tracked the

855
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: mock She tracked like one hundred and fifty mock drafts

856
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: and what they said about Buffalo and they're like one guy,

857
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: this Andrew Booth, the guy you're talking about, was mocked

858
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: to the Bills twenty two times, twenty three times, and dbs.

859
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: We were mocked to the Bills sixty five out of

860
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four. It's a common it's like

861
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty. We understand why half the half

862
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: the mock drafts out there by by expert analysts around

863
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: the country have the Bills taken a dB. The other

864
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: major player they're taking is a wide out or an

865
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman. At this point, it was defensive line

866
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: for a while. Now it's into your offensive line. So

867
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: some of the guys that these mock drafts had the

868
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Bills taking, like in March, in February, and it's like

869
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, I mean, he's not gonna be there now

870
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: things have changed. He's three months further down the line

871
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: in his rehab. He's starting to read of schedule, he's

872
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: starting to release videos of him running and do it not.

873
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's gonna be on the field maybe

874
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: in September, probably for sure in October. So he's back

875
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: to the top of the draft. He's not going to

876
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: be available. So some of these mock drafts that were

877
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: done early are completely out of the water. But now

878
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: with all the rhetoric that's been digested by the analysts, Yeah,

879
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: this Andrew Booth kids probably gonna be there. And one

880
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: of the guys that we've been talking about like that,

881
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis is of the world, of the Floyds, of

882
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: the Lloyd's of the world, the linebacker from Devin Lloyd

883
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: from Utah, all these guys, there's gonna be a guy

884
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: there we all recognize because we've been talking about these guys.

885
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: In fact, there's probably gonna be a handful of those

886
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: guys there. I'll take Walker the Third and hal Breece Hall,

887
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: They're both gonna be on the board them and along

888
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: with some wide receivers and some dbs that we all know.

889
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: One of these guys is gonna be a Bill. We've

890
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: been talking about them. It's there's just too many good

891
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: players and twenty five guys, twenty four guys ahead of

892
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: the Bills. There's just two not enough picks ahead of

893
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: us to take all those guys off the board with

894
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: all the team needs that are up there. So it's

895
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting. And one of these names that

896
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: we have bantered about over the last three weeks is

897
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: gonna be at Buffalo Bill tonight, right unless the Bill's

898
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: trade out well and I which that's a real possibility,

899
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: especially if the value isn't good right when they're coming,

900
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: if if there are too many really good players. Yeah,

901
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: and there's a like like Brad I think called in

902
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: if there's one of those teams that want to jump

903
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: up into the first round to get that quarterback, just

904
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: take a shot at a quarterback like the like the

905
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens did with Lamar Jackson. They took him at

906
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: thirty two. Now they got the fifty year option on

907
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback who was actually has been the MVP. Smart

908
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: move by them, but somebody benefited from that, the team

909
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: at thirty two. You could also have a team that

910
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: what their board says is there's a huge drop off

911
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: after the sixth receiver, and if the sixth receivers still

912
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: on the board later than they anticipated in round one,

913
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: they may try to climb back up there for that guy.

914
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: It could be anybody. All you need is one team

915
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: that's in love with one guy, and if he's on

916
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: the board later than they anticipated, they're gonna make a move.

917
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna make him complex. Here's the thing, too, If

918
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: you're this one team and you're sitting there and you

919
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: are in love with this guy, you gotta ask yourself,

920
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: why are we are? Are we the only ones in

921
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: love with this guy? Well, you don't know that. You're

922
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: worried that everybody else is. You think everybody else thinks

923
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: like you do, which is not always the case, right,

924
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter. If you love the player, go

925
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: get him. If you think he's that much of a

926
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: difference maker for your team, you go get the guy.

927
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: Forget about what everybody else thinks. You gotta do what's

928
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: best for your team, right, that's right, and that's how

929
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: they usually operate. And I get it to hell with

930
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: everybody will exactly right. Hooray for me, hooray for me

931
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: and our team. And ha ha, we got the guy right,

932
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: hooray for me. Boo for you. Let us let us

933
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: know who your guy is at eight o three oh

934
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: five fifty. We have to take a break here, but

935
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: hang on the line if you're there, or give us

936
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: a call at three oh five fifty, let us know

937
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: who your pick is for the Bills at twenty five tonight,

938
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: Draft Day number one getting started. In about six hours,

939
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: we got our countdown clock and everything. We're back for

940
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: hour number two. In a minute, here one Bills Live

941
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: presented by Collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio at

942
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: a Steve Taster who has been all over the fields.

943
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

944
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

945
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: in the stratoire of normalcy, all right. We're burning and

946
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: churning our way to the NFL Draft now, just six

947
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: hours away, less than six hours away. Happiest, happiest four

948
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: words ever. The pick is in. It is adult Christmas

949
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: for any football failure. This is adult Christmas m NFL

950
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: Draft coming your way tonight at eight pm NFL Network, ABC, ESPN.

951
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: They'll have it covered wall to wall if you haven't

952
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: heard from years pass. Unless there's a trade that happens,

953
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna be picking somewhere safely, somewhere between

954
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: eleven PM eleven forty five pms where that pick's gonna

955
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: fall some. The over under is eleven fifteen, So maybe

956
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: catch a nap this afternoon, right, So that's how late

957
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, So plan your day accordingly, Bills Mafia.

958
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: It's going to be about eleven fifteen tonight, take a

959
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: little napaty due. During the break, we saw a report

960
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: from ESPN's Rich Simini, who covers the Jets. Deebo Samuel,

961
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: as we know, has asked for a trade, and the

962
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: best time to do that to get the maximum value

963
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: would be draft week end for the Niners, and Rich

964
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Semini is reporting that the deal is not dead and

965
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: that both the Jets and the forty nine ers want

966
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: to see what is on the board when pick ten

967
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: comes up, which is the second of the jets two

968
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: first round picks, before considering the consummation of a deal.

969
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: So my best guest, Steve, is that the Niners are

970
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: asking for the Jets pick at ten and a second

971
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: round pick for Deebo Samuel. Now the Jets have two

972
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: ones and two twos, so you give up one of

973
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: each and you get Debo freaking Samuel, and you still

974
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: pick it four, and you still pick it thirty five. Right,

975
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, here's the thing and the reason

976
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: that they want to see what the top ten holds

977
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: it because you got a chance. You got the Jets

978
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: picking twice and the Giants picking twice in the top ten.

979
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: That means the needs of those teams. You can kind

980
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: of look and see what those teams are thinking because

981
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: their needs don't change. So you've got two teams. Four

982
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: of the nine picks ahead of the tenth pick are

983
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: kind of predictable or within a certain within a certain parameter, right,

984
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: so you gotta think, Okay, if this happens, and this happens,

985
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: and this happens all that stuff, you get down to

986
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: ten and the Jets are picking their second pick, it's like, oh, yeah,

987
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: we might get this guy. So the Niners are sitting

988
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: there and the Jets are sitting there, and they may

989
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 1: be thinking about the same guy. The trade may also

990
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: be in place, and the Niners only prerequisite is we're

991
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: only going to do the trade if our guy is

992
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: there at ten. The terms of the trade may be done,

993
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: could be done right now, right, They kind of have

994
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: to be in place to make a split minute. Gotta

995
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: be in they gotta be in the ballpark already. Yes,

996
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: So they've probably agreed on trade parameters, and now it

997
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: is simply a matter of is the guy that the

998
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Niners want at ten still on the board. If he is,

999
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: this thing could get done tonight and the AFC suddenly

1000
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: becomes receiver central Tyree Hill to New England, and then

1001
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: you've got Stefan Digg signs an extension in Buffalo, and

1002
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: then Deebo Samuel's with the Jets. Hello, yeah, there's yeah,

1003
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 1: it's I'll tell you. The East turns into a star

1004
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: driven Yeah, a star driven division, no question about it.

1005
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Not as not as you know. I think the West

1006
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: AFC West is still a or Tyreek Hill to Miami. Yeah,

1007
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: you said in New England, but I meant Miami. Yeah,

1008
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: It's it'll be fun. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna

1009
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: But but there's a lot of intrigue tonight with the

1010
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: top ten because of the unique type of year that

1011
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: it is for this draft. Couple of things. One cup

1012
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: bunch of eight teams don't have a first round draft pick,

1013
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: which means eight teams do have two. And there's no

1014
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: quarterback up there sitting there like Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen Baker, Mayfield,

1015
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: John Elway, Jim Kelly, and there's none of that stuff

1016
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: going on. So there's none of this quarterback umbrella hanging

1017
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: over the top of this draft. So your team needs

1018
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: a good player at a certain position. He's there, go

1019
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: grab him, but there's nobody. No quarterbacks getting in the way,

1020
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: Like you don't know this team, this team, this team

1021
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: may not be taken a quarterback. And there's no consensus.

1022
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: You know, in a lot of the first round, there's

1023
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: no true elite of the elites. I mean, there are

1024
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: players that are gonna go one, two, three, and four,

1025
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: But if you polled all thirty two teams, I don't

1026
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: know if they have the same four guys, let alone

1027
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: in the same order. It's crazy because this is a

1028
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: year when all the guys who went back to school

1029
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: for COVID last year should be coming out. You got

1030
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: older players, Yeah, there's some guys in this draft. There

1031
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: are twenty three yeah years old. Yeah, it's really a

1032
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: strange draft. And for that, I don't know whether there's

1033
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: a guy who's twenty five. That lineman Bernard Raymond, he's

1034
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, it's been around. I don't I

1035
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: don't know whether the talent in this draft is gonna

1036
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: be overall much better than most drafts because there's you know,

1037
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: such depth. But you know, you say that there's no

1038
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: elite players. I don't know that there's not gonna be

1039
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: an elite players. Maybe there's gonna be more. Maybe there's

1040
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna be two drafts worth of elite players. We don't know.

1041
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: Let's get to the phones, though, Sam and Corning has

1042
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: been waiting patiently. He's up next. What do you got

1043
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: for Sam? I want this kid, Calvin Austin, the third

1044
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: from Memphis. He's just fast. You can't coach fast. He

1045
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: can take it easy the first year. He doesn't have

1046
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: to be thrown a year. They can coach him up.

1047
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen makes everyone better. Just get the fastest guy

1048
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, he is very fast. I mean four

1049
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 1: three two forty thirty nine in vertical. The kid jumps

1050
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: out of the gym. So I understand why you're intrigued.

1051
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: The size is the issue here. He's not even five eight,

1052
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: he's five seven and three quarters. He's my height one seventy.

1053
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is a pip squeak u but

1054
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: he is fast. He's a former running back that was

1055
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: also used to wide receiver at Memphis. And the thing

1056
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: that impressed me with him good hands outside his frame

1057
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: to make catches, great run after the catch receiver, as

1058
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: we know, home run speed. They used him on jet sweeps,

1059
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: and I thought he was pretty good on jump balls

1060
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: despite a smaller frame because of the thirty nine inch vertical.

1061
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: He's an explosive athlete. I mean the guy simply outruns

1062
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: angles to the edge. Now, I will say this, Steve,

1063
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: this is where the different location of the hash marks

1064
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: in college compared to the pros makes a difference because

1065
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: if you're running to the wide side of the field

1066
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: with a kid like Calvin Austin in college, there's a

1067
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: lot more green grass out there because the hashes are wider,

1068
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: so there's more ground for the defense to cover. That

1069
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: disappears in the NFL. Plus you got faster dbs, so

1070
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: is a difference maker. It's interesting. He may be there.

1071
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: He may be their fifties. He might be there around three, right,

1072
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: he may be there at eighty nine. That's how far

1073
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: down he's like the thirteenth and the thing I'm looking

1074
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: at now, he's thirteenth ranked guy at his position. That

1075
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: means that's deep in the second, maybe in the third.

1076
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: But he is fast. He's fast, but he's he's a

1077
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: diminutive guy's five eight and he's you know, it's five

1078
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: whatever five on my top one hundred list, he's ninety five,

1079
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: so that's a guy that could be a considered at

1080
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: eighty nine. You get him. Um, but you're right. But

1081
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing. He's he's ninety fifth guy, but at

1082
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: one of the most important premier positions, and he's played

1083
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: running back, so he offers maybe a little versatility. He's

1084
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 1: not breaking any tackles though. He think about what that means.

1085
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna take him over maybe the fiftieth ranked player

1086
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: who's a guard. You know what I'm saying, You're not

1087
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna take a guard. That's that's the the gray that's

1088
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: the gray area you're looking at. Well, plus you already

1089
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: have Isaiah McKenzie and Marquis Stevenson, who are in some

1090
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: ways Jamison Crowder similar type players. Yeah, and especially Isaiah

1091
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: now same size that Austin has, position flexibility. He was

1092
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: a running back. He's done so he knows what it

1093
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: is to, you know, get the ball handed to him.

1094
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: He's not he's gonna be a liability and pass pro

1095
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: because he'll get picked up and stuck his Yeah, he'll

1096
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: get he'll get stuck. Right in Josh's lafe. We saw

1097
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: them lie Isaiah back there at the end of the year,

1098
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: So I kind of think they already have They're Calvin

1099
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: Austin the third, as electrifying as the kid is, they

1100
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: kind of have that guy already. And I say, I

1101
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: guess Isaiah McKenzie proved his worth last year on multiple occasions.

1102
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: The guy came through big time when the Bills needed him.

1103
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: And so I don't know that you know, a guy

1104
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: like Calvin Austin isn't redundant. Yeah, And that's my point. So,

1105
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I get depth, but you already have that guy, right,

1106
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: And this is a league where big usually wins. There

1107
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: are exceptions. You can have a couple of small guys

1108
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: on the roster if they have exceptional other traits that

1109
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: make up for the lack of height, size, whatever. But

1110
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: you can't have too many of them, right, because if

1111
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: you have too many of them, then you're gonna have

1112
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, you're getting pushed around. Let's go back

1113
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: to the phones and to Jack in cheek to what

1114
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: do you got for his Jack? Well, he's got a

1115
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: phone call, guys, Yeah, who is it? That's okay. I

1116
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: don't like anybody at twenty five, and I'll tell you why,

1117
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: because basically I agree with Steve in that from pick

1118
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: twenty to our third round pick, there's not a substantial

1119
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: difference in the quality of the players. Now, it leaves

1120
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: you two options. One, you either bundle up some of

1121
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: your draft picks and you move down into the fifteen

1122
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: to eighteen range if you like a guy enough to

1123
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: do that. But you get a guy that you're going

1124
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: to get a starter out of where you might not

1125
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: get that later on. So moving you know, up in

1126
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: the draft, I think that they have that shot. And

1127
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: most of the draft pundits are saying there's not really

1128
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: more than eighteen or nineteen true first round players in

1129
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: this particular year's draft. Yeah, but what you gotta be careful, right,

1130
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: What you gotta be careful with that on Jack is

1131
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: this team and Brandon Bean explain this the other day,

1132
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: and I was totally on board with this because I

1133
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: think some people are getting misled when they hear only

1134
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: eighteen players with first round grades. This team has eighteen

1135
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: players with first round grades that fit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Well,

1136
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: there's no way they have the same eighteen guys with

1137
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: first round grades that this team in Cleveland has, and

1138
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 1: the Browns may have twenty two guys with first round

1139
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: grades in terms of who fit the Browns and what

1140
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: they need. What about the Steelers who play a three

1141
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: four defense, they may have a few extra linebackers with

1142
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: first round grades that other teams to play a four

1143
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: three do not. So don't be misled when you hear

1144
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: all in the class there's only eighteen players with first

1145
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: round grades. The eighteen players that this team has are

1146
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: gonna be different. They'll have some that are simil like

1147
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: eight to ten might be the same, but not all eighteen.

1148
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: And this team might have twenty two or this team

1149
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: might have nineteen, and they're not all the same guys.

1150
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: So in the end, you're talking about a pool of

1151
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 1: upwards of forty to forty five players that thirty two

1152
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: teams in the league have first round grades on, but

1153
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: one singular team may only have eighteen of those forty

1154
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,479
Speaker 1: with first round grades. So I hope that makes sense

1155
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: in terms of how I'm trying to paint the picture

1156
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, the first round grades, I mean, you're

1157
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: talking about thirty two picks in the first round, but

1158
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: it's a not all of those thirty two picks. I mean,

1159
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: certainly every team's gonna get a guy they like and

1160
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: have high hopes for. But that doesn't mean all thirty

1161
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: two teams would take all thirty two of the same guys.

1162
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: Here's a perfect example, and Brandon being used this example

1163
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: earlier in the week. The Bills last year did not

1164
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: have thirty players with first round grades. They had the

1165
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: thirtieth pick in round one, but those other thirty one

1166
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: teams picked players that they had first round grades on

1167
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: that the Bills did not. And what did that do?

1168
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: It fortunately pushed down to the Bills pick at thirty

1169
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 1: a player that they did have with a first round

1170
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: grade named Greg Russo. Now the Bills didn't have thirty

1171
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: players with the first round grade, but they still got

1172
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: a player with the first round grade at thirty because

1173
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: other teams had players graded higher on their board than

1174
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: the Bills had on theirs, and it pushed the guy

1175
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: down to them that they did have a first round

1176
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: grade on, and that's why they stayed at thirty and

1177
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: picked Greg Russo. So hopefully that paints the picture there,

1178
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: but I think people got confused by that. I appreciate

1179
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: and respect your opinion that you know nobody's gonna be

1180
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: there at twenty five, that you're gonna like. And if

1181
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: they didn't like, anybody trade them down, and I'm all

1182
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: about it. I'm the more picks you've got in this draft,

1183
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: the better. Well, yeah, chief history has proven that the

1184
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Jets are sitting pretty they both got

1185
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: twelve picks or something like that, and good for them.

1186
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. If you can trade down, if

1187
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: you can get a partner, pick up an extra second,

1188
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: or an extra third or an extra fourth, do it.

1189
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: I think with as in exact a science as the

1190
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: draft is, this is a volume game. Yes, the more

1191
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: volume you have, the more swings you can take, the

1192
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: better your chance of getting some players that can really

1193
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: help you. It's it's an inexact size. It's a crapshoot.

1194
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: Anybody will tell you that. So the more picks you have,

1195
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: the better chance you have on hit a couple. That's

1196
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: why it's that's why the Rams a team like the

1197
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: Rams said, you know, forget those picks that trade there

1198
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: ones away as deep into the future as they're allowed to,

1199
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: and knowing that it's a fifty fifty proposition is whether

1200
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: they can really play or not knowing they're going to

1201
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: be a huge investment in those players. Now they'll take

1202
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: those picks and get a player who's already proven at

1203
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: the NFL level, pay him the money it takes to

1204
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: get him, and knowing that they're going to get value

1205
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: for that money because the guy's already proven he can

1206
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: do it at this it's a different philosophy. And then

1207
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: they'll keep their second, third, and fourth rounders and they'll

1208
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: see if they can get some value from those picks

1209
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: as those picks come down the pipe. But the Rams,

1210
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: knowing the percentages that you pick, we'll just say, you

1211
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,959
Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna take a player that's already proven

1212
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: and never miss on those guys. Now, certainly it could

1213
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: happen to him like Odell Beckham. They get a guy

1214
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: that comes in, he's great, Odell plays really well for him,

1215
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: they're doing great, but then he goes down hurt. Then

1216
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: you're out. But that's no different than it is with

1217
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. So you know, that's the

1218
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: philosophy that the Rams have taken that's different than everybody else.

1219
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: They never get a cheap first round guy who hits

1220
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: and they got him on a rookie contract. But they

1221
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: always get a first round guy who hits, because he's

1222
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: already proven he can do it. Let's get back to

1223
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: the phones and we go to Renee in Lockport next,

1224
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: what do yeah for us? Renee? Hi Hi, downy seed

1225
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: my closet from way back when? And guess what brown

1226
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: and your hair fits your head? Thank you appreciate that.

1227
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: My question, my question is it's Kyler Gordon is available

1228
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: at twenty five, but we take him or will be

1229
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: pass him up and let the Chiefs given him? Or Cincinnati?

1230
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: And wouldn't it be feasible to get truth horners and

1231
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,479
Speaker 1: could you get you know, somebody picks Um I can't

1232
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: see starting not the season this Sam Neal and um

1233
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: dang jetson. I'm sorry. I just think we need something

1234
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: that somebody gets canted enough to make it a dangerous

1235
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: duo in tray white and the Rickie's coming in because

1236
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: you can't cover all of our receivers. Yeah, yeah, all right,

1237
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. The only question I have for you,

1238
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: Rene is why is my jersey hanging in the closet

1239
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: not on the mantel? I think? I'm um, now it's

1240
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: a good one. Kinder Gordon is a good player. He's

1241
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: on that list, he's you know, there's two guys from Washington,

1242
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie and Kyler Gordon. The Bills have been mocked

1243
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: to Trent McDuffie more than Kyler Gordon. Yeah, I think

1244
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon was a player I was high on early

1245
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,479
Speaker 1: in the draft process. He ran a four or five

1246
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: two official at the Combine and that was slower than

1247
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: I think people anticipated. He's a strapped up athlete though.

1248
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean he really is big, physical, stacked corner. Some

1249
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: people say he looks like a safety he's so big,

1250
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: but he's got smooth hips, natural athleticism to play outside.

1251
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: I think he does best on the plays that are

1252
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: in front of him, short routes, when it's in front

1253
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: of him and he can see through through the receiver

1254
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, he's great. I think part of the

1255
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: reason why is he's young at the cornerback position. He's

1256
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: only got two years as a starter. He lacks ball production,

1257
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: which has got people cancerned. The people that like him

1258
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: say he's young at the position. He's gonna get better.

1259
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: He's got all the tools to put it all together.

1260
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: Only eleven pass breakups in two seasons as a starter. Now,

1261
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: does he have quick twitch and all that stuff. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't time well on the watch, but when you

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Speaker 1: watch his tape, he makes plays. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: a time on the job thing for him. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got a good, good ceiling, and I think he

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Speaker 1: could get better in time. The question for the Bills

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Speaker 1: is this, Steve Number one, are you putting a higher

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Speaker 1: priority on pure speed in your secondary? You saw Tyreek

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Hill outrun your secondary last year and it costs you

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Speaker 1: an important football game. You gotta play that guy twice

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Speaker 1: this year. I know it's with Tua, not with Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: and that changes things. But the bottom line is you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be facing guys like that, and before the draft

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Speaker 1: is over, you may have Deebo Samuel in your Division two.

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Speaker 1: So do you need to put a higher priority on

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01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: pure speed for the DBS that you're considering drafting in

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Speaker 1: this year's draft? If you are, you may not take

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Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon because he runs a four or five two

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: that's not getting it done. And if you take Kyler Gordon,

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Speaker 1: you're depending on your coaching staff and with good reason

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Speaker 1: that they can develop him into a top corner. Give

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Speaker 1: him time on task. Might be a guy can't help

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01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: you this year. He might. Yeah, he might not be

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Speaker 1: able to bust into the starting lineup ahead of Dane

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Speaker 1: Jackson like right away. It might take some time. I think, Um,

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Speaker 1: I think it's more likely that a guy like his

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Speaker 1: teammate McDuffie would do that rather than a guy like Gordon.

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: Gordon needs a little bit of polishing. But he's got

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Speaker 1: a big, physical body. He's got some traits of the

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: Bills like size and strength and kind of physicality. One

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Speaker 1: of them speed not though it's not there. He's not slow,

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Speaker 1: but he's but he's not a burner. He's a good athlete,

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: got good hips, He's got all that going for him.

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Speaker 1: Just the question is can he keep up in the

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: ABC East with the Jets and the Dolphins. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: With the Patriots, Yeah, he probably could keep up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we were talking about that very conversation yesterday when

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Speaker 1: we're doing the either or game. Do you want Andrew Booth?

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Speaker 1: If you have a choice between Andrew Booth and Kayer Elam,

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Speaker 1: do you want the true scheme fit kid who plays

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: a physical style, has played in man, has played in zone,

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: has a feel for both of those kinds of schemes

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Speaker 1: in Andrew Booth, who looks like a plug in play

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01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: type player, Or do you take the guy with the

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: higher ceiling and the elite physical traits like Kayer Elam,

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01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: who for most of his Florida career played press man

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01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: and doesn't really have a feel for his zone defense

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: or any kind of zone calls. They basically said, you're

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Speaker 1: covering the best receiver on that team. Just lock him

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Speaker 1: up the whole game. It's interesting too, because what do

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Speaker 1: you want? The hard part of playing corner, most people

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Speaker 1: believe is doing what you just said. This is your guy,

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Speaker 1: don't let him catch a ball. That's the harder part

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Speaker 1: of it for a corner is to stick with a

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Speaker 1: guy like Steph Diggs all over the field and shut

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Speaker 1: him down. The part of it that seems easier is

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: the zone part where you drop back. You've got to

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01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: patch a ground to cover rather than right. You've got

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: to have better instincts in that. You just need quick

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01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 1: twitch and reaction and some confidence to play press corner.

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: When you get into his zone corner, you got to

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Speaker 1: know where your safety is, where's your help? What zone

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Speaker 1: am I doing? What am I looking for? What route

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01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: concept are they running at me. Oh yeah, I recognize this.

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01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: I got him. I'm threatened over here. This. You know,

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: you got to be out ahead of it mentally, and

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a harder thing to play mentally,

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: but physically lining up on a guy face to face

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: is the hard part. The zone part is more about

1330
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: being a pro and knowing everything going on around you

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01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: and having some awareness, and which is Elim's. Elam's weak spot.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't just do it. Yeah, he's so good physically

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01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: and never asked him to do it, you know. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see with the direct with the development. I like,

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Speaker 1: I like the guys with the top end. I like

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Speaker 1: Elam in this spot. Um, nothing's gonna phase him. He's

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those kids that you beating him

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01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: for a touch down. He's gonna pick the next one off,

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01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. This is why though,

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01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: teams like the Bills sit players like this down in

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: a room and they draw it up on the board

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01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, what do you think your responsibilities

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: are here in this concept? Um, you know guy six two, Yeah,

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01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: he's he's six one and a half, one ninety one

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: ran a four three nine. He's a loose athlete. I

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: mean he's he's really gifted. Yeah, this is a guy

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: you could conceivably put on Travis Kelsey and lock him

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01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: up all game. He's big enough, tall enough, long enough,

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Speaker 1: fast enough. Right, He's one of those guys if he

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: would have been, you know, at six years old, to

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01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: sit of get putting him on on a little loop

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01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: football team. You hand him a golf club and all

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01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's on the PGA Tour. If you

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01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: hand him a baseball bat, he's bating three twenty five

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01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: and then major leagues. Do you hand him a basketball,

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01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a lottery pick. He's one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. That's why it's gonna be fascinating to see

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Speaker 1: what the Bills gravitate to here, especially if they have

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: choices at twenty five, because where they are now as

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Speaker 1: a team, a championship contender, does that change the thinking too?

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Speaker 1: We're going for all the marbles this year. Do we

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01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: want a guy right now who's really good and his

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01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: plug and play, because God forbid we lose one of

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Speaker 1: our corners to an injury or Tredevious White isn't ready

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: and we need to start somebody week one and we

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Speaker 1: need to win football games. That's just it. You're right.

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Speaker 1: What if we're playing the Rams Thursday kickoff game in

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01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: LA and tradevious White isn't ready to play yet? Which corner?

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Speaker 1: Which corner you're drafting the one that's ready to go

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: in week one to win a game? Or you've taken

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Speaker 1: Kayer Elam who might need a little time on the job.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's say this. I mean, I'm just hypothetic.

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Speaker 1: I get it. How far does Kai Elam have to

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: go to be a quote unquote good enough to handle?

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01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: And how high or how low is the ceiling on

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: Andrew Booth Andrew Booth? And how much of a difference

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: is there is Kayer Elam heading shoulders physically above Booth,

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: maybe not heading shoulders, but maybe ahead. And then what

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: about what about Elam or Booth being ready to play,

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: more ready to play or and to play better with

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01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: his less athleticism than And we don't you know what

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And we don't know that he has that

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: much less athleticism. He didn't test because he had an injury, right,

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01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm Booth is coming off of abdominal sportier.

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01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: So I get all that, and only the team knows

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: all those things because they sat these guys down. They

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: know what kind of learners they are. The team doesn't

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01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: know everything. They know what they know, they know of what.

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: The thing is, they know more than we do. They

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01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: know what they what. The problem is, do they know

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: what they don't know? How much did they know about

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: what they do not know and cannot predict. That's the

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: problem with this. Because I say this, you get down

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: to twenty fifth pick of the draft. You're in first,

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01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: you got a chance. You got two teams calling you.

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01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: They want you to trade out. None of them are

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: really enticing. Got two players, both of whom you believe,

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: at some point in the near future or distant future

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: going to be starters for you. What do you do? Yeah,

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: who are you taking? Who to take? Dilemma though, isn't it?

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: It's not all bad for twenty five. That's a good dilemma,

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01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: that's right. And here's the thing too. You can't avoid

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: the decision. You either got to trade down or pick

1404
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: one of those guys. What are you gonna do? But

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01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: that's why they go over at umpteen number of times.

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: So when the actual decision comes. It's an easy one too.

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01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: You gotta hand somebody to check break time for us

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: here when we come back, more of your phone calls

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: at eight oh three five fifty will also get to

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Speaker 1: some of your comments on the tweet sheet. Haven't done

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Speaker 1: that yet. We'll hit those when we return here. On

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented Body Collid to Health, it's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio on Draft Day. All right, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Final

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01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: half hour of the show here, and we've gotten some

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01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: good calls in terms of who's your guy for the

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: Bills at pick twenty five. Everybody's got a favorite by now,

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: so let us know who yours is. At eight oh

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: five fifty, we go next to Jake and Buffalo. What

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01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: do you got fir us? Jake? Who's your guy? Jake?

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: Are you're there? Jake going once? Jake going twice? Oh no, sorry, Jake,

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Speaker 1: first whiff of the day. I was our first whiff

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Speaker 1: of the day. See, that's why you need to trade

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01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: down and get more picked. Let's go to the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: though brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Who is your

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Speaker 1: ideal selection for the Bills in Round one of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, Jamad says, Daxton Hill, you could line up

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: a corner for us this year. If things don't work

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01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: out where we can extend Poyer. He could line up

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: at safety next year. Steve, I'm just gonna say this.

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: In the last week, I have warmed up tremendously to

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01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: Daxton Hill the position versatility watching him on tape. Look,

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01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a trained eye, I understand that, but

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01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: I think I've watched football long enough, and been around

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01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: the game long enough, and covered this team long enough.

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01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: I think he has the skills to play even outside corner.

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01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: He played mostly slot and safety for the Wolverines. I

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01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: think he could even line up outside. When he is

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: out there, he pops on the tape. He is explosive,

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01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: runs a four, three, seven, and the position versatility is great.

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: Now we've heard a number of people say, ah, well,

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01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: if they don't extend Poyer, he can play there next year.

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: Sure he could be in the competition for the safety job.

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: But you also, let's not forget you got Jikwan Johnson

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01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: and DeMar Hamlet on this roster, two players that this

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: Bill staff likes a lot. So even if you draft

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: Daxton Hill and let's just say something happens and Poorer's

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: not here next year, sure he'd be in the mix,

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: but I don't think he'd be a lock, and you

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01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: might want to leave him a corner, right. I'm okay

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01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: with im intrege. He's fast, he's fast, and he's productive. Um,

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01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that he'd be I don't know if

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: there aren't better corners out there, and that there won't

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01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: be better corners at twenty five. But if you like

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01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: position flexibility, yeah, that may be the guy. Um I

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a problem with it. If that's the case.

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01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: If if they think, yeah, we're gonna try we're gonna

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Speaker 1: gi him a shot at safety, or we're gonna give

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01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: him shot at nickel corner or I mean outside corner

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01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: as well. We're gonna try him at all those spots

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01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: to find us Let him find his way. The Bills

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01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: are deep enough to let him do that, and if

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 1: he is that good an athlete, let him compete with

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Speaker 1: Dane Jackson. Here's the other thing, that I really like

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01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:12,959
Speaker 1: about him. The reason they played him in multiple positions

1468
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: is because he's a film study junkie. You can't deploy

1469
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: a college kid in multiple roles slot, corner, safety, blitzing

1470
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: off the edge. Can't do that unless the kid knows

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01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: his assignments and can handle the workload and all the

1472
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: responsibilities that that entails from week to week. And I

1473
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: know he's like a slender framed athlete, never missed a

1474
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: game due to injury, right led the team in pass

1475
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: breakups and interceptions. But I just think he's a player

1476
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: that offers a ton of versatility and if the cornerback

1477
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: depth and value is not good at twenty five, and

1478
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: this guy's a good option to me, really good option. Yeah.

1479
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: We're looking to and see talking about names that pop up.

1480
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: The names that are popping up the most often in

1481
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: these mock drafts. Andrew Booth, junior from Clemson. It's like

1482
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: twenty four times he's been mocked to the Bills. And

1483
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 1: then you go Kayer Elam, Kyler Gordon who we just

1484
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: heard about, and Trent McDuffie. You know who's coming on

1485
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: late though, Breeze Hall Yeah, yeah, and then there's also

1486
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: you know. So you've got all these guys. That's thirty

1487
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: nine plus twenty four sixty three times it's been one

1488
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: of those four guys, one of those four corners that

1489
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: have been done it. So I'm thinking and then another

1490
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 1: one McCreary is another one that's been mocked six times

1491
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: to the Bills. There's some guys out there, and I

1492
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: think one of those guys is probably gonna be it. Right.

1493
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: You get these other possibilities at other positions, but man,

1494
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: old man, half almost half the one hundred and forty

1495
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: eight mock drafts that Maddie glab has digested got the

1496
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: Bills taken at one of those four corners. It's a

1497
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: short list of guys that people want. And we'll talk

1498
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: about this too because we get you back to the phones,

1499
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: because I do want to discuss this. If there's a

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01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: run on receiver, can there also simultaneously be a run

1501
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: on corner. I kind of feel like it's a one

1502
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: or the other kind of thing, you know what I mean. Like,

1503
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: if there's a run on receivers, Okay, the receiver value

1504
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: is not going to be good for the Bills at

1505
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: twenty five pivot take a corner. If there's a cornerback

1506
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: run in front of the Bills at twenty five. That

1507
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: should mean conceivably that there might be a receiver or

1508
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: two that they like that drops to them. Pivot take

1509
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: a receiver, you know what I'm saying. So can there

1510
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: be simultaneous runs a corner end receiver. I suppose it's possible,

1511
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: but I think it's unlikely. So I think one of

1512
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: those two positions could be out of the mix based

1513
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: on how the board falls, but not two. So I'm

1514
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of hoping that they get one or the other.

1515
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: But we do have to get back to the phones.

1516
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: Let's go to Judy and Buffalo. Judy, what do you

1517
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: got for us? Okay, guys, um, you know what, I

1518
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: just think we're wasting all of our time wondering who

1519
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: we're going to get on the defensive end. Buffalo is

1520
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: an offensive team, and I don't care where we are,

1521
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: what what round we picked, but we've got to get

1522
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: this North Dakota State six foot four four three Christian

1523
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: Watson into our lineup. You know you can. You can

1524
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: draft all these cornerbacks and everything else. I think we've got.

1525
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: We've secured our defense. Buffalo schedule says we have to

1526
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: score thirty thirty five points per game. So let's face it,

1527
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: we need offense. Yeah, I said, guy, Yeah, I don't

1528
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: disagree with you. Thanks, thanks for the call, Jude. You

1529
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: can call back anytime. Yes, Christian Watson is his name.

1530
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: Six four two O eight ran a four three six.

1531
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: He's found eight and a half inch vertical and so

1532
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: he's got some teven four broad jump and ten and

1533
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: an eighth inch and he has got some traits, no

1534
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: question about it. Didn't play at a high level of college,

1535
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: but neither did the you know, neither did the quarterback

1536
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: that's thrown to him. So uh, yeah, I'm all about

1537
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: it that that's a guy that's got some traits. And

1538
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: with the Bill's ability, and let's face it too, if

1539
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: they draft a wide receiver, who really expects him to

1540
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: walk in and just like bust open the door the

1541
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver room, say I'm the starting number X receiver.

1542
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't really have to do it all now, No,

1543
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: he can earn and walk his way into it. It'll

1544
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: be interesting to see, uh if that happens. That but

1545
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: I Judy's right, you look back at the Bill's draft history.

1546
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: That's exactly the kind of guy they take, Well, it's

1547
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: a it's a physical traits athlete. That's Greg Russo playing

1548
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: wide receiver. It is that's Spencer Brown playing wide receiver.

1549
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 1: It's Tremaine Edmonds playing wide receivers, Josh Allen. They don't always, no,

1550
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: they don't. They come in raw, but they turn into this,

1551
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, look at that guy right that. They

1552
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: have done that in the past. Yere absolutely all right,

1553
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, Josh Allen, Greg Rousseau. Okay, we can run

1554
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 1: down the list. They've also moved away from elite trade

1555
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: athletes at times at Oliver tradevious White has traits to

1556
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: play in the league, but they weren't like elite top

1557
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: of the charts. You know, he ran in the four fours.

1558
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: He's five eleven, one ninety. You know. So they have

1559
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: taken players before that, Matt Milano, Matt Milan. Well that's

1560
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: around five guys a little bit tier those early picks,

1561
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: you go, is my point. And so I don't think

1562
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: they marry themselves to one singular philosophy. I certainly think

1563
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: elite trade athletes are big on their board. He's almost

1564
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: it's not the end all bell. He's almost twenty three,

1565
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: so will probably be Tremaine Edmonds age. The difficult part

1566
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: with him is the projection. You saw him dominate FCS

1567
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: level football, and with those traits he should Does that

1568
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: change when he moves up to the NFL level? It

1569
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 1: might there might be a learning curve there because of it,

1570
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: But if you believe he's got the goods, in due course,

1571
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: he should get it. And I'll say this too. One

1572
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: of the problems he's had, he's had a hunt. He's

1573
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: had sixteen passes dropped in one hundred and twenty one

1574
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty catchable balls. That's a lot. That's a

1575
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: high personage. Take it from a guy who you can

1576
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: fix that. That's fixable. Yeah, that's it. That's just rep

1577
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: You get the guy out there. You stand like Gabe Davis,

1578
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: we saw him about what Dawson knoxes. Docson Knox is

1579
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: the same thing. You get out there and that's it.

1580
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: You start. You get a guy and he's a big

1581
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: barrel of balls. He starts pumping him through that jugs machine.

1582
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: You sit there and just snag him one after the

1583
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: other after the other and doing it every day. You'll

1584
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: fix it. You'll get that fixed, no question about it.

1585
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: You'll get it fixed. All right. We got time for

1586
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: one more here and it's Tom in Hamburg. Tom, what

1587
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: do you have for us here? All one? Bill's live. Hey, guys,

1588
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: talking about Elite trace. I think Bean gets very aggressive,

1589
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: moves up the board, goes after Kyle Hamilton. I think

1590
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: they get back on day two, Hamilton on day one

1591
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: corner on day two Hamilton's day one. So two dbs

1592
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: is the route you see them going, Tom, that's pretty interesting. Sorry,

1593
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: we gotta go because we are up against the clock.

1594
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: Hamilton's an intriguing player. Didn't test well, but his production

1595
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:30,440
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame is unquestioned. Talented player, long angular athlete

1596
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: for the safety position. Some people believe he could be

1597
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: a hybrid safety slash linebacker. You know this quote unquote

1598
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: positionless football, but a smart, heady player makes a ton

1599
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 1: of plays, more of a drag down tackler than a

1600
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: thumper because he is so long and angular. But a

1601
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: team captain, well respected, and you know, as as early

1602
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: as a month ago, people were talking about him as

1603
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: a top five pick. And now after he doesn't test well,

1604
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: they're like, ah, I don't know, it might not be

1605
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: able to play the deep path you know, as a

1606
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: safety might not be fast enough. Blah blah blah. Can

1607
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: the guy play or not? I mean, that's the thing.

1608
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: The guy's a football player. He's a long strider, but

1609
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: he's got a nose for the ball, got his eyes up.

1610
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's a good player, no question about it. Ah,

1611
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. He doesn't have the one thing. Here's

1612
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: the thing too, and I don't know anything about anything,

1613
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: but Brandon being one of the buzzwords this offseason for

1614
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: the Bills, and what they're looking to do is get faster.

1615
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: He is not that guy four five nine. Yeah, he

1616
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: is not that guy. And that was at his pro day. Yeah,

1617
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: he's an athlete. He'll play in the league. But if

1618
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: there is a priority on speed here in Buffalo, that's

1619
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: not your guy. I don't know if he's changed. I

1620
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: don't know if his hips are loose enough's change the

1621
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: direction and all that. But you know, certainly a smart

1622
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: guy and an instinctive player, but I don't know if

1623
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: he's athlete enough. Yeah, break time for us, Steve and

1624
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: I with one more segment to go here on one

1625
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Bills Live. We'll see in a second. So We've been

1626
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: listening to the last two hours from all of our callers,

1627
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: and thanks for calling in. As to who your guy

1628
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: is at twenty five, Steve, who is your guy offense

1629
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: defense at twenty five? All right, offensive player, I think

1630
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Johan Dotson, wide receiver, Penn State slot guy, young, fast,

1631
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: fast enough, can also play outside though, right, that's the

1632
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: guy on offense defense, I think because I think he'll

1633
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: be there. There's guys I like better, but I think

1634
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: he'll be there, and I think the Bills will take

1635
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: him if they if they're gonna go wide receiver. Secondly,

1636
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Kayer Elam elite traits and

1637
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: he can play in certain situations right right off the bus.

1638
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you on Dotson on the offensive side

1639
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: because I think he could be there. Defense, I'm gonna

1640
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 1: go with the wild card. I'm going Dax Hill here, Okay.

1641
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I love the versatility. He's a speed guy. I think

1642
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: a priority is on speed, so I'll go there. All right, man,

1643
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for all your input. Don't forget watch Maddie and

1644
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: I after each pick will be streaming on the Bill's

1645
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Facebook page and on the YouTube channel We'll see you

1646
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: after each pick tonight