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Speaker 1: with me as we're getting ready for the Jaguars to

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Speaker 1: take on the Lions this week, one week before the

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Speaker 1: bye week. So let's go to our big things. Second chance.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Peterson clearing up who was going to

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Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback this week, as he ruled out

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence earlier this week and said that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Mac Jones.

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Speaker 2: Trevor will be out.

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Speaker 3: We just decided this week.

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Speaker 1: He's getting close, but to.

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Speaker 4: Make sure that again, you guys know how I am

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Speaker 4: with injuries.

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Speaker 5: We don't want to put a player out there that's

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Speaker 5: not one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna We're gonna rest in one more week.

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Speaker 1: Brian out a huge shocker. I think we expected that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and I wondered before the game last

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Speaker 6: week if he might feel a little of pressure because

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Speaker 6: he wouldn't know how many starts he was getting, and

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Speaker 6: you know, when you come to reclaim your career.

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Speaker 3: This might be the only start. You know, he might

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Speaker 6: Talking to him this week and watching him on the

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: How much better? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: He's not Trevor Lawrence, but I do expect him to

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Speaker 6: have a greater sense of what the game plan is,

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Speaker 6: more familiarity with the players around him, and the idea

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Speaker 6: that well, his answer to the question are you focused

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Speaker 6: on the money? I'm paraphrase of the question. His answer was,

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Speaker 6: the Lions, I'm never getting there. So I like the answer,

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Speaker 6: and I like the demeanor, and I expect that he'll

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Speaker 3: Whether that's enough John who knows?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I think mac Jones is one of the

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Speaker 5: best sixty quarterbacks on the planet. I think he's going

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Speaker 5: to be in the NFL for a long time. Whether

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Speaker 5: go on to be a starter after this, I think

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Speaker 5: is what he's trying to prove. As Brian noted, it

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Speaker 5: looked to me last week like mac Jones is a

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Speaker 5: and that he needs to be patient at the end

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Speaker 5: of the game when patients went out the window, Uh,

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Speaker 5: that's when trouble started. Can he prove that he's more

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Speaker 5: than that this week? I think he'll play a lot better.

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Speaker 5: I think as Doug Peterson SI, I think he'll be

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Speaker 1: All right, big thing Number two is two and eight

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Speaker 1: at this point in the season, not anywhere where the

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Speaker 1: Daguars wanted to be, but we do know that they

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Speaker 1: have to play the rest of their schedule. And Evan

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Speaker 1: Ingram talked a little bit about playing for pride.

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Speaker 2: You know, what kind of competitor are you?

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Speaker 3: As a man?

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Speaker 7: As a competitor when things aren't going right, how do

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Speaker 7: you show up the work every single day? And I think,

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Speaker 7: So obviously the situation is not what we want, but

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Speaker 7: We're going to continue to work to make our situation better.

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Speaker 1: John Evan Ingram. Unfortunately, he's been in this scenario several

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of smiled at the bike because smile

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Speaker 5: as I was writing about this yesterday. We're about four

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Speaker 5: weeks now into the pride and professionalism theme. Unfortunately, that's

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Speaker 5: So that's where we are. But while it's boring mid

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Speaker 5: it's in the last three weeks they've played with pride,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, except if you consider this, John that in each

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Speaker 6: about the Jaguars reclaiming their season and being five and

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Speaker 6: I ran into Devin Lloyd yesterday in the locker room

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Speaker 3: He said, there's seven games left. I'm tired of the losing.

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Speaker 6: I want to start winning, and there's no reason why

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Speaker 6: we can't get on a roll and win some of

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Speaker 3: Good about ourselves. That's what I wanted to hear, and

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they can build off that. We saw an impressive

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Speaker 1: Josh Henzellen talked about it.

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Speaker 8: Play that many snaps, you know, that much time. Uh,

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Speaker 8: when you have a game like that the last couple

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Speaker 8: I think this was a good job we did last week.

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Speaker 8: You know, granted we played eighty snapcher game. Hopefully that's

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Speaker 1: Bran, I know you asked head coach Doug Pearson about

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Speaker 1: this issue as well, because obviously is this sustainable, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not sustainable.

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Speaker 6: However, the last three weeks, the tea fence is average

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Speaker 6: seventy four, so I think thirty eight minutes time of possession.

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Speaker 6: They've given them a chance in those three games. As

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Speaker 6: I just mentioned, to find a way to win, and

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Speaker 6: Doug said at the end, the offense has to do

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Speaker 6: their part. Look, nobody would draw up a defense that

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Speaker 3: As long as this is, it's not sustainable.

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Speaker 6: However, if the Jaguars can make a couple of plays

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think we have to ask one more

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Speaker 5: meaning the three turnovers all came deep in the Jaguars territory.

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Speaker 5: Hard when the offense is struggling to take advantage of

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Speaker 5: probably is. But I think that's what it's gonna take

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Speaker 5: Back in the jag Zam.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are heading to Detroit to take on the

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Speaker 1: Lions this week and one of the storylines we always

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Speaker 1: usually talk about Treyvon Walker and Aiden Hutchinson, But Aidan

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Speaker 1: won't be that head to head comparison that we usually have.

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Speaker 1: But and Campbell talked a little bit about what Trayvon

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Speaker 2: Well, he's got all the physical ability you could have

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Speaker 2: play stout. He's physical, is explosive, He's able to transition

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Speaker 1: Brian, I think these two will always be linked forever.

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Speaker 1: Trayvon's certainly coming along this year.

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Speaker 5: He is.

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Speaker 6: I tell people just watch him, just focus on forty four,

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Speaker 3: He is constantly making things happen.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's worth pointing out John that if

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Speaker 6: Trayvon hadn't gone number one, he.

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Speaker 3: Would have gone number two. Absolutely. I mean there's no

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Speaker 6: They love their guy. I was reminded of that when

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Speaker 6: I was in Detroit for the draft. And he's a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a case where I think either team

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Speaker 5: should they have taken? Dan Campbell would have loved to

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Speaker 5: have coached Trayvon Walker. Oh the way he put either

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Speaker 5: way he plays Trayvon you know. Uh, he caught some

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Speaker 5: what he is. Uh, he's uh, Trayvon's really really good.

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Speaker 5: It might be the best play of the team right now.

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Speaker 1: I think right now, I think you could definitely make

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Speaker 4: You know, turnovers do not happen because of one player.

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Speaker 1: John Jacks had three turnovers this week, Jared Goff through

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Speaker 6: You remember when we were there for practice last summer

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Speaker 3: Team plays like his personality and he's on the edge

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Speaker 6: Mark Brunell told us when we were standing before practice

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Speaker 6: but they're going into it this week, and their eyes

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the only reason people aren't there's serious.

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Speaker 5: People are talking about this team more. The Chiefs are unbeaten,

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Speaker 3: They can beat Kansas City, we can beat Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: They can, but they feel like the power team in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they sure do. All right, says We're gonna give

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Speaker 1: Monday after Sunday's matchup with the Lions in Detroit, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: Motorcitty madness? And if you can, if you can picture

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Speaker 6: I think Doug Peterson, who was clearly unhappy after last week,

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Speaker 6: I just don't see how this ends.

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Speaker 5: Happy with the guys, Yeah, I went Motor City, Mall,

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Speaker 5: but I'd rather go with Rock in Detroit, Rock City

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Speaker 5: hope the Jaguars can get a couple of turnovers. I

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Speaker 5: Detroit is playing really well, they're at home. They're at

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Speaker 6: This is the week, John and guy where the offense

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Speaker 1: And that's where my focus is at, or at least

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Speaker 1: there's nothing worse than that. Mac Jones has another opportunity.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't played in over a year last week and

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Speaker 5: Knowing he's going to be the starter.

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Speaker 1: He has an opportunity this week to get the offense going.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he will be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see the Jags offense play a

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Speaker 6: And Doug answered that question there yesterday. They're trying, they're

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Speaker 3: You have to just keep trying, ye all.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping to see some running game too as well,

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Speaker 1: because travesy Tin is getting this opportunity. Tank didn't practice

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