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Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number two Friday edition Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us as we are rolling through the Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: the program. Courage you to go hit the talkback. It's

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Speaker 1: fabulous talkbacks, and we got the team constantly going through

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Speaker 1: those and popping them in front of us. So just

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Speaker 1: corner you can make an easy talkback for the program.

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Speaker 1: A lot of different stories that are out there. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned that we're going to talk with the Surgeon General

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Speaker 1: of the State of Florida, doctor Latipo, about the decision

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Speaker 1: he made on the vaccine requirements that are going to

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Speaker 1: exist in Florida, and a lot of discussion coming out

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Speaker 1: of RFK Junior's testimony yesterday, and I thought that jd.

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Speaker 1: Vance actually did a really good job of contextual I

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Speaker 1: what is and is not considered science, And I wanted

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Speaker 1: to play this. This is a flashback to November of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. This is an Assistant HHS Secretary Rachel Levine.

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Speaker 1: What was this guy's name, the admiral? What was his

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Speaker 1: real name before changing himself to Rachel. Don't you expect

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Speaker 1: me to.

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Speaker 2: Dead name on this program, sir.

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Speaker 1: I am leading you over the middle to dead name.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually can't remember otherwise, but I

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Speaker 2: felt like that was a good plan be there, right, like, yeah, let.

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Speaker 1: Me look up. I actually want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we know what Levine's real name is, Admiral Levine. I'm

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Speaker 1: typing it in right now, in real time, and you

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Speaker 1: even look it up, Rachel Levine. It doesn't even I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is just how crazy it is when you type

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Speaker 1: this in that they won't even tell you what his

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Speaker 1: original name was. He was married, he had two kids,

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Speaker 1: and then decided, oh wait a minute, I'm a chick

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Speaker 1: and just started walking around in a women's navy uniform

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Speaker 1: and everybody's just supposed to accept that that's real. And

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Speaker 1: here he is saying, hey, Richard, Richard Levine, Dick Levine. Ironically, enough,

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Speaker 1: there you go. This is a suicide prevention care. This

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Speaker 1: is just so nasty that they did this, and this

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Speaker 1: is why I think it's important to continue to reemphasize it.

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Speaker 1: They prayed on the love of so many parents out there,

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Speaker 1: and they said, if your kid, they would say this

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Speaker 1: all the time, do you want a dead daughter or

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Speaker 1: a live son or vice versa. They made you believe

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Speaker 1: that you were going to cause your kids suicide. If

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Speaker 1: you didn't give them puberty blockers, if you didn't give

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Speaker 1: them the ability to chop off their genitals, you were

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Speaker 1: going to kill them. This is what they were saying

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Speaker 1: as recently as November of twenty twenty four. When they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: RFK Junior, he's anti science, remember what they were saying.

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Speaker 1: This was someone they put in power cut thirteen.

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Speaker 3: What would you say to folks who think that they're

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Speaker 3: being reasonable by saying, why can't children just wait till

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Speaker 3: they're eighteen? The adolescence is hard, and puberty is hard.

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Speaker 3: What if you're going through the wrong puberty. What if

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Speaker 3: you inside feel that you are female, but now you're

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Speaker 3: going through a male puberty. The argument is, well, they're

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Speaker 3: too young to know. I want to make it clear

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Speaker 3: that for pre pubertal children there are no medical procedures done.

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Speaker 3: The extendardive care allows them to explore that with therapy.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: Gender firm and Care is medical care. Gender firm and

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Speaker 3: care is mental health care. Gender firm and care is

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Speaker 3: literally suicide prevention care.

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Speaker 1: Okay, literally suicide prevention care. I mean, all of this

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Speaker 1: is crazy and.

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Speaker 2: Also ignores the very clear data which shows that mental

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Speaker 2: health outcomes for people who go through transition processes when

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Speaker 2: they look at them over a longer horizon are incredibly negative.

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Speaker 2: And it also doesn't address why do they call it

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Speaker 2: gender affirming care? How is it therapy? If the assumption

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Speaker 2: when you go and walk through the doors is oh,

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Speaker 2: you're having these questions? Do they ever say, Clay, you

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Speaker 2: think in these gender affirming sessions? You know, maybe you're

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Speaker 2: just going through some stuff and you're gonna wake up

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Speaker 2: in a few months and realize you're actually a dude

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Speaker 2: and things happen to people and it's okay, and you're

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Speaker 2: going to get back on track.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 2: No, it's how do we get you to change your name,

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Speaker 2: grow your hair, and tell everybody you're.

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Speaker 1: A chick as fast as possible. That's what happens.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone doubt that for one second? By the way,

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Speaker 2: this is one of the unfortunate side effects. I know

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Speaker 2: we have some conservative psychiatrists who listened to the show

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Speaker 2: because they always writ in when I say this psychiatry

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Speaker 2: is by far the most left wing medical specialization in

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Speaker 2: this country. By far, psychiatry and the District of Columbia

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Speaker 2: have pretty much the same poly and political affiliation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and to your point, that's actually a lie that

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Speaker 1: he was telling too, because we know that there were

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Speaker 1: thousands of kids that were actually having top surgery bottom

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Speaker 1: surgery when they were miners. And this is why I

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Speaker 1: think in the years ahead you're going to see so

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Speaker 1: many plaintiff lawyers filing lawsuits because most kids are a

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Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable as they are going through puberty, regardless

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Speaker 1: of whether their boys or girls. It is a really

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Speaker 1: challenging time for almost all kids. I mean, your body

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Speaker 1: changes in real time. And there's an ad out I

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Speaker 1: give credit to Jennifer say in her xxx Y company,

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Speaker 1: which is just basically saying, hey, men and women are different.

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Speaker 1: I was watching an ad that she had that she

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Speaker 1: posted which is saying, hey, here's a shout out to

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Speaker 1: all the tomboys. How many of you out there that

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Speaker 1: are listening to us right now? When you were eleven, twelve,

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Speaker 1: around with the boys. Oh I'm I'm just a boy.

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Speaker 1: I just like hanging out with the boys more than

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Speaker 1: I do the girls. And then Huberty hits and maybe

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Speaker 1: much your body's changing compared to the boys that you

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Speaker 1: may have been running around with before. And then you

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Speaker 1: go to a doctor and he says, well, what's really

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Speaker 1: going on is not you're just a little bit uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: because transitions to adolescents are challenging for kids everywhere. It's

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Speaker 1: that you are really a boy, and we need to

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Speaker 1: affirm the fact that you are a boy. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to pump you full of all sorts of hormones

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Speaker 1: to try to keep your natural body from turning you

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Speaker 1: into a growing young woman, and instead we're gonna stilt

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Speaker 1: your development. I mean, this is can I just also

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Speaker 1: bear it is barbaric that this was allowed to occur. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people who have have

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Speaker 1: done very bad things here in the name of health, healthcare, science,

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Speaker 1: civil rights even I mean, they've really made this a

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Speaker 1: cause on the left and they have gotten many people

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Speaker 1: involved in it. Here's a part of the problem, Clay yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I think we really focused on the lying dynamic, which

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Speaker 1: is at the center of this whole thing. You have

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Speaker 1: to lie about this stuff. You have to lie. You

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Speaker 1: have to you have to be who is the physicist

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Speaker 1: who went on Neil de Grass Neil de grass Tyson

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Speaker 1: that you have to be Niel the Grass Tyson, who's an astrophysicist,

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Speaker 1: who when asked, do men have it? Generally speaking, do

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Speaker 1: men have a advantage over women in athletic competitions?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I have no idea, sir, I've never even considered you.

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Speaker 2: You have to lie, so we have to go. You

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Speaker 2: have to go to Blodwell. Oh I like that as

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Speaker 2: a very You got to god, well, that's time. You

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Speaker 2: know who would give you a high five for that?

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Speaker 1: JK.

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Speaker 2: Rowling, who should now probably come on the program sometime.

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Speaker 2: Plus you say that her books are better. You say

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Speaker 2: her books are better than C. S. Lewis, So like

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Speaker 2: you're really you're really buttering up rallying from afar. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But Clay, the other part of this is, and this

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Speaker 2: is also goes to the lie, but it goes to

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Speaker 2: the science, which is that you cannot become a woman.

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Speaker 2: I imagine if it were possible to do this, it

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Speaker 2: would be an interesting ethical discussion on its own right.

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Speaker 2: If you could give somebody cross sex hormones and truly

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Speaker 2: transform them into something that is physically indistinguishable from a woman,

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Speaker 2: there would still be this whole cut like should you

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Speaker 2: do that? What are the risks of doing that? But

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Speaker 2: that's not even what we're talking about. These people who

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Speaker 2: are given the cross sex hormones and the surgeries never

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Speaker 2: actually passes women. They do not come across to the

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Speaker 1: And I've had this debate of.

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Speaker 2: People say, oh, well, you know some like some guys

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Speaker 2: on dating sites will swipe right at them. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: because if you can use filters, and you can you

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Speaker 2: they never come across as women. So there's a lie

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Speaker 2: that's at the heart of all this. The whole notion

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Speaker 2: of gender affirmation skips the fact that the transition never works.

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Speaker 2: And if and if it's not about the physical transition,

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Speaker 2: it's an emotional state that must be respected, why do this?

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Speaker 2: You know, the snip and the change and the and

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Speaker 2: the tuck and all these things that go on. If

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Speaker 2: it's not about the physical change. Well, the physical change

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Speaker 2: gets discussed. You cannot actually transition, it does not exist.

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Speaker 1: So that is a lie. Also a lie basically everything

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Speaker 1: they told us during COVID. So then how do you

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Speaker 1: I think doctor Sapphire. The challenge that I think we

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Speaker 1: it's fine. When they told you that you could not

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Speaker 1: they suddenly say, actually, it's imperative that you go out

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Speaker 1: close unison in the streets to protest against systemic racism.

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Speaker 1: How in the world can you trust anything that public

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Speaker 1: health authorities are saying now? And I think that is

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Speaker 1: we'll ask doctor a Latipo about this in a moment.

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Speaker 1: But That's why I've got RFK Junior's back. I don't

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Speaker 1: presume that he's right on everything. I don't presume that

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Speaker 1: anybody's right on everything, but I'm willing to listen to

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Speaker 1: him because he correctly diagnosed much of the wrong decisions

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Speaker 1: it somewhat We were talking about this a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Why do kids today get twice as many vaccinations as

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Speaker 1: you and I got when we were babies, Buck, That

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Speaker 1: seems like a question that's very legitimate to ask. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, lots of vaccinations are good. We should

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Speaker 1: stop polio from happening. That's a good thing, right, we

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Speaker 1: should stop We should stop things that can kill baby.

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Speaker 2: Vaccines are and I'm excited for all the emails on this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying all vaccines today, but vaccines as a

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Speaker 2: general medical breakthrough have probably, and I'm taking this back

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Speaker 2: now two hundred years, have probably saved more human lives

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Speaker 2: than any other medical advance in history. Just now, that

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that that you need seventy vaccines for your

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Speaker 2: kid today, but it just we got to keep it

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Speaker 2: in perspective. There are vaccines, there have been vaccines. We

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Speaker 2: want to keep everybody from getting We are decidedly anti

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Speaker 2: smallpox on them, like anti murder at polio.

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Speaker 1: Uh, there are a lot of things that it's very

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 4: And the answer to your questions, I think people need

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Speaker 5: repercussions for not complying. And you can't have informed consent

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Speaker 5: when doctors are or or some parties want to want

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Speaker 5: you to do something so badly that the research isn't announced.

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Speaker 5: You know, the questions about what's best for your kid

439
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Speaker 5: is than enough aren't really fulfilled. So folks need to parents,

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Speaker 5: I think need to be talking to other parents because

441
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Speaker 5: a lot of parents are now looking into this and

442
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Speaker 5: I myself have learned so much and here I am.

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Speaker 5: You know, I went to medical school. I have a

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Speaker 5: PhD from Harvard. You know, I spent years taking care

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Speaker 5: of patients, and there was so much I didn't know

446
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Speaker 5: about vaccine a research.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us doctor a lotipo just specifically, And

448
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Speaker 2: this is interesting, I think to everybody, but for any

449
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Speaker 2: of our Florida listeners, there's a change in vaccine mandate

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Speaker 2: policy now in the state of Lord. But can you

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Speaker 2: give us some of the specifics what doesn't mean, what

452
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Speaker 2: doesn't it mean, and what is trying to be achieved here?

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Speaker 5: Sure the overall goal is is really to end those

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Speaker 5: those vaccine mandates because they're so.

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Speaker 2: Would just to just to be clear, doc all, there

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Speaker 2: so no mandates of any kind to go to school

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Speaker 2: for vaccines.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not nothing for you know, if you want to

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Speaker 5: put something in your body, or you want to put

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Speaker 5: something in your child's body, no, God bless you, but

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Speaker 5: no one should be forced to do that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'd say that's a fundamental, very black and white ethical issue.

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Speaker 5: In terms of shifting to the specifics in the Department

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Speaker 5: of Health, there are a handful of vaccines that we

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Speaker 5: uh that we mandate. Obviously I didn't do that. That

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Speaker 5: was a predecessor that did that, and we're going to

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Speaker 5: peel those backs. So those are going to be gone.

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Speaker 5: Those mandates are going to be gone, and we will,

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Speaker 5: you know, we'll work with the lawmakers to explore a

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Speaker 5: more ethical position. And I mean it's very simple. You know,

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Speaker 5: if the people who are really worried about this, no

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Speaker 5: one's taking away anyone vaccine. No one's preventing anyone from

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Speaker 5: pursuing or taking a vaccine if they want. What we

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Speaker 5: do want to prevent is coercion. And that is the

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Speaker 5: current position that is that is inherent to mandates and

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Speaker 5: it's unethical. And I know it's a shock for many

477
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Speaker 5: people that's been obviously with the feedback we received, but

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Speaker 5: it truly is an unethical position.

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Speaker 1: If you were my kids are all old enough, seventeen, fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and ten. They're doing well knock on wood health wise.

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Speaker 1: But if I were coming to you personally and I said,

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Speaker 1: would you recommend vaccines like for instance, polio, for instance,

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Speaker 1: for smallpox, I don't even know the full list of vaccines.

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Speaker 1: Would you recommend some vaccines? Would you recommend some not

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Speaker 1: in your standard as you if you were an individual's

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Speaker 1: doctor at this point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, it's a great question. So I will tell you,

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Speaker 5: like as I said, this is this is a new

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Speaker 5: area for me. I mean, it was really COVID that

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Speaker 5: opened up my eyes to many things in the healthcare

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Speaker 5: area that were happening and I wasn't aware of that

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Speaker 5: were very important. So I myself am still on the journey,

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Speaker 5: if you will, in terms of my learning. So some

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Speaker 5: of the vaccines I'm more knowledgeable about in terms of

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Speaker 5: the you know, the evidence informing that inform their their

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Speaker 5: benefits and risk. And I think it's important guys to

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Speaker 5: remember that each one it's just like a drug, right,

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Speaker 5: So you don't like, we wouldn't say, oh, would you

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Speaker 5: recommend you know, not not drugs as and illicit drugs,

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Speaker 5: but medications. We wouldn't have a conversation about, oh, do

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Speaker 5: you take medications. No, we wouldn't have a conversation like that.

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Speaker 5: We'd have a conversation about, well, what do you think

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Speaker 5: about this medication and what do you think about that medication?

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Speaker 5: And that's the same thing with vaccines. So for the

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Speaker 5: ones that I feel more knowledgeable about, there's some that

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Speaker 5: I'm more comfortable with in terms of the you know,

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Speaker 5: in terms of how well they've been studied, in terms

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Speaker 5: of the benefit risk profile. For example, you know, right now,

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Speaker 5: that's how I feel about the measles vaccine. Not everyone

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Speaker 5: feels that way, and you know, and I think that

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Speaker 5: it's fine if they don't feel that way. I think

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Speaker 5: as long as you're making informed decisions. There are other

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Speaker 5: vaccines that I have opinions about that go you know,

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Speaker 5: in one direction the other. But you know, again, it's

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Speaker 5: really in my in my opinion, it's important to evaluate

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Speaker 5: each one individually because they're not the same. They are

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Speaker 5: not the same. The amount we know the risk the benefits,

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Speaker 5: they are not the same.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't we be asking, and I appreciate you being on

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Speaker 1: with us, doctor Joseph Ladipoe's Surgeon General Florida, shouldn't we

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Speaker 1: be asking why autism rates have skyrocketed in this country?

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Speaker 1: Like leave aside everything else. It is a public health failure.

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Speaker 1: I would think that in this day and age, we

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Speaker 1: have massive increases in autism. Now, partly you can say, okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe we just recognize the symptoms better. There's certainly an

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Speaker 1: argument there. But I think if you look at the

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Speaker 1: growth in autism, diagnosis and symptoms, all those things. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers on allergies, for instance,

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Speaker 1: the number of kids that are allergic to peanuts now

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Speaker 1: compared to when I was a kid, or certainly when

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Speaker 1: people out there are far older than me were kids,

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Speaker 1: it didn't exist. Shouldn't we be asking why these things

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Speaker 1: are occurring and trying to have less of them, like

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Speaker 1: allergic reactions. When kids die from peanuts is an awful thing.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't be having this happen. And the number of

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Speaker 1: kids being diagnosed with autism is a national emergency to me,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't we be trying to figure out what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the essence of science?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we absolutely should. And you know you've named some

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Speaker 5: conditions and there are a lot of other conditions. There

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Speaker 5: are a lot of autoimmune conditions. And you know, anytime

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Speaker 5: you're tinkering is not quite the right word, but anytime

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Speaker 5: you're trying to monifor the immune system, it's not like,

544
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Speaker 5: you know, it's not some precision you know, some precision medicine.

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00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: It just targets one place. That's not the reality. The

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Speaker 5: reality is that everything in our bodies is connected. So

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Speaker 5: you change one thing here and it changes other things

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Speaker 5: in other places. I'll give you a brief example. So

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Speaker 5: there's some evidence, and it's fairly good evidence that that

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Speaker 5: aluminum which is added to some vaccines.

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Speaker 4: May be pretty immune conditions.

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Speaker 5: Look at some of the evidence, it's pretty favorable. And

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Speaker 5: write the audience into all of the details. But that's

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Speaker 5: just an example. And that's like the one thing, right.

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Speaker 5: Our systems are infinitely complex, and it's the idea that

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Speaker 5: you know there aren't going to be potential, you know,

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Speaker 5: adverse events that you don't even painting.

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Speaker 4: It's just bullets. It's nonsense. So you should be instating.

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Speaker 2: All right, doctor Laipo. We got a it there, and

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Speaker 2: we've also lost connection once again, but I appreciate you,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Glatiposts, Surgeon General of Florida, and we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, news story coming out, and this is one reason

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Speaker 1: I was just asking Wall Street Journal reporting and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit. Headline exclusive RFK Junior

565
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Speaker 1: to link autism to taie in all use in pregnancy

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Speaker 1: and foll eate deficiencies. Kennedy's autism report touted by Trump

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Speaker 1: will suggest using pain relievers during pregnancy maybe linked to

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Speaker 1: the development developmental disorder. And again I was just asking

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Speaker 1: that question. Autism rates have exploded. This is a story

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Speaker 1: that is just breaking right now from the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 1: Just got the alert popping into my phone and uh,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it a little bit. But I

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Speaker 1: think it is indicative of a great deal of apprehension

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Speaker 1: from so many people out there in this listening audience,

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Speaker 1: but also the MAHA movement in general, which is overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: made up of moms. There's lots of dads involved too,

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Speaker 1: but overwhelmingly made up of moms. And I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of you are asking questions that you might not

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Speaker 1: have asked if COVID had not happened and you hadn't

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Speaker 1: been told that your kids had to be injected with

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Speaker 1: all these drugs. We'll talk about it when we come back.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, parents with kids old enough to play

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Speaker 1: on their own with friends but not old enough to

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Speaker 1: carry cell phones, what do you want to do? How

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Speaker 1: do you want to stay in touch with your kids.

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Speaker 1: We've got a ten year old. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: cell phone yet because we don't give our kids cell

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Speaker 1: phones until they're fourteen years old. Trust me, we've heard

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Speaker 1: a lot of complaints about that, but overwhelmingly the data

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Speaker 1: now is suggesting the longer you can keep your kids

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Speaker 1: off of their own cell phones, the better it is

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Speaker 1: for their mental health. And so maybe a lot of

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Speaker 1: But anyway, but doctor Latipo was really I thought interesting.

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Speaker 1: And again that news story just broke while we were

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Speaker 1: talking to you, and it's going to get a ton

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Speaker 1: This is a Wall Street Journal exclusive. RFK Junior to

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Speaker 1: link autism to tail in all use in pregnancy and

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Speaker 1: fully deficiencies. And here is the opening paragraph. Health Secretary

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Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy plans to announce pregnant women's use of an

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Speaker 1: over the counter pain medication is potentially linked to autism,

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Speaker 1: from folate can be used to treat symptoms of the

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Speaker 1: developmental disorder in some people. People familiar with the matter

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Speaker 1: said the report is expected to come out this month

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Speaker 1: and likely to highlight low levels of folate and important

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Speaker 1: vitamin and taile and all taken during pregnancy, as well

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Speaker 1: as other potential causes of autism. People familiar with the

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Speaker 1: matter set, and I know this is something that many

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Speaker 1: of you out there, particularly when you are pregnant or

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Speaker 1: when you have a young child, are thinking about constantly

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Speaker 1: because the rates have skyrocketed. I'm sure buck for you guys,

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Speaker 1: because you had a young baby, and you had a pregnancy,

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Speaker 1: you went through and everything else. There's different knowledge out

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Speaker 1: there now then a decade ago when I had we

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Speaker 1: had our youngest look and so I think that conversation

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Speaker 1: is significant.

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Speaker 2: One of the really helpful things about artificial intelligence is

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Speaker 2: going to be that enormous data sets. We talked to

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Speaker 2: doctor McCarey about this, enormous data sets will be able

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Speaker 2: to be analyzed very rapidly. And that also it's not

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Speaker 2: just good for the people that that's their job. You

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Speaker 2: can do your own If you're talking about do your

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Speaker 2: own research, we just talked to doctor Latipo about that.

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Speaker 2: You can do your own version of a deep dive

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Speaker 2: into deep medical data, and it's incredible what they can pull.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can have it read five thousand pages

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Speaker 2: of you know, controlled study trial research and come up

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Speaker 2: with what the percentages of efficacy and things like that.

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Speaker 2: That was not possible even five or ten years ago,

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Speaker 2: and that's now going to be ungrocked, which is my favorite.

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Speaker 2: I know people use chat GPT, I don't. I like

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Speaker 2: the GROC.

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Speaker 1: I also think what you're going to find out is

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Speaker 1: everybody's biochemistry, for lack of a better word, is different.

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Speaker 1: So what you respond to drugs, workouts, food, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be different than maybe what your spouse does or

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Speaker 1: what your kids do. Everybody's genetic profile is different, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to learn a lot more about this,

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Speaker 1: but the conversation is going to be intense, and that's

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Speaker 1: part of what we're having here