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Speaker 1: You know, it's some stuff out there waiting on you

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that because because you know, the

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Speaker 1: thing about it is that everything in life is transitional,

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Speaker 1: you know. So because I love reason, I'm so excited

430
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Speaker 1: about you because this is a voice. First of all,

431
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Speaker 1: it feels very natural, and you've always entertained, You've always knows.

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Speaker 1: You always know how to speak, you know how to

433
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Speaker 1: control of room. You know, intimitivated by walking in and

434
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Speaker 1: seeing thousands of strangers in front of you. But the

435
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Speaker 1: fact that you're articulating a support system for everyday people.

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Speaker 1: That's a blessing. Yeah, that's a blessing, girl. And that's

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Speaker 1: what That's why I'm excited. That's why I'm want the

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Speaker 1: other any want to just hug you and shake you

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Speaker 1: and go and just you know, you know, you get ground.

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Speaker 1: Somebody just jump around in a circle. Indeed, well, I

441
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Speaker 1: see my friends out here. You know, people want to

442
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Speaker 1: rub shoulders with the A list and I get it,

443
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Speaker 1: and and that has its place. But the truth is

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Speaker 1: the people that I want to touch. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a girl from Brooklyn. I made people laugh,

446
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Speaker 1: you know, step my toe. I took a risk and

447
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Speaker 1: stepped my toe into this crazy business we call show business.

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Speaker 1: And now I want to use my platform in a

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Speaker 1: very uh broad, delicious exclusive way. And that's just my

450
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Speaker 1: way now. You know, it doesn't mean I get I

451
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Speaker 1: didn't know. Was I at the Oscars? No, I was

452
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Speaker 1: not at the officer. But I don't know if I

453
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Speaker 1: don't want to go with who wants to sit up

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Speaker 1: in a in a girdle the whole time? Anyway, I

455
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Speaker 1: want to and I want to. You know, I love

456
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Speaker 1: coming and speak you know people say, people haven't asked me,

457
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Speaker 1: you know when you're gonna do another comedy tour. Well,

458
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Speaker 1: what I do, Sean you're gonna like this is I

459
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Speaker 1: am still able to scratch my comedy itch when I

460
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Speaker 1: go and I speak. So when I speak, when I

461
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Speaker 1: do a keynote, I often have taken bits from my

462
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Speaker 1: comedy act and I've just adapted them to a speak

463
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Speaker 1: to a speaker stage. So I still get the feel

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Speaker 1: of performing without having to do seventeen shows on a weekend.

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Speaker 1: Hope that the manager gives me my bonus. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have to deal with you know, drunk drunk hecklers.

467
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Speaker 1: And I get paid more because I sell my goods

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Speaker 1: and products and services at the end. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying the other comedy is don't do that, but most

470
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Speaker 1: times it's a T shirt or it's a picture. I'm

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Speaker 1: able to sell my programs that then create change after

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Speaker 1: I speak, so I still get my comedy fix and

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Speaker 1: I get you inspire, educate, entertain and and and um

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Speaker 1: and empower others. Well, you know this is uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm joining this interview, and I hope you're doing this

476
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Speaker 1: and joining it as well. Because of the fact that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the possibilities and anybody and then I'm

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Speaker 1: a transitional guy. You're a transitional person. And there's so

479
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Speaker 1: many everyday people out there who stuck own jobs and complaining,

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Speaker 1: stuck in relationships and complaining, worried about how old they are.

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Speaker 1: I'm for them fifty and sixty. What can I do?

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Speaker 1: I can't change it. I gotta I gotta still on

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Speaker 1: this path. And that's a lie. And that's all you're saying, Kim,

484
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Speaker 1: Stop reading a lot, stop living a lot, and stop

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Speaker 1: being the lie. Oh that's powerful. Well, you know, here's

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Speaker 1: when I tell folks, and this is because people aren't looking.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking in the right place. I think that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people look without they look out and

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Speaker 1: they go, oh, I'm older than so and so and

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Speaker 1: so and so, or I've gained too much weight, so

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Speaker 1: I'm fatter than so and so, or I'm I'm in

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Speaker 1: this job and I don't know how to get to this.

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Speaker 1: I say, look within. So my thing is story and

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Speaker 1: the power of story. And when I look at um

495
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Speaker 1: my clients, stories inside those stories are jewels and gems

496
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Speaker 1: and beautiful minds feel full of amazing nous that can

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Speaker 1: then become your ticket out of the drudgery. So I

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Speaker 1: call it captivating with your story. Captivate with your story.

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Speaker 1: All of us have within us stories of the yummy

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Speaker 1: and the yucky, the ups and the downs, the things

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Speaker 1: that we've learned, the lived experiences. The other phrase I

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Speaker 1: love to say is what is everything that has happened

503
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Speaker 1: to you and actually happened for you? That means you

504
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Speaker 1: have a fresh perspective on the yummy and the yucky

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Speaker 1: stuff that has happened. You have survived it, you have uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you are a victor. So why not use

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Speaker 1: your story to go back and help other people, to

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Speaker 1: share with others how you came through. And so those

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Speaker 1: are the things I like to pull out of people.

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Speaker 1: Pull out the stories. And these are your books, these

511
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Speaker 1: are your speaking engagements, these are your foundations. There are

512
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Speaker 1: people who started foundation because they looked at their story

513
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Speaker 1: and said, oh, my goodness, this is what I've overcome,

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Speaker 1: or this is what my parents did to become who

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Speaker 1: they were, and now I want to give back by

516
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Speaker 1: sharing the story and bringing people in. And so those

517
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Speaker 1: people who are sitting around and going onto this or

518
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Speaker 1: I'm not enough that the truth is within you live

519
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: beautiful stories of and it's just it's just a matter

520
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: of tapping into that and then using those stories to

521
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Speaker 1: either a build your confidence and go on about your

522
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Speaker 1: business or or be build a business. And that's what

523
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Speaker 1: I duct my like sweet spot right now. So let's

524
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Speaker 1: transition right into Captivate with your story, which is the

525
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Speaker 1: story to amplify your or any business. Captivate with your story,

526
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Speaker 1: leave with your message. Yes, that's another platform. That's another platform.

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Speaker 1: There's that you have community mastermind, right and then now

528
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Speaker 1: you have captivate with your story. Tell us about that. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: So captivate with your story is just that it's me

530
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Speaker 1: teaching the principles of using the power of story to

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Speaker 1: captivate and connect to build an extraordinary life and business.

532
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Speaker 1: So we connect. It is primal in us to love story.

533
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Speaker 1: We teach our little ones with story, We learn from

534
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: our elders with story. It is it's how we process,

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Speaker 1: it's how we see ourselves. You know, when you told

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Speaker 1: when you mentioned the beginning, you and I were running

537
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Speaker 1: around New York, you know, trying to make it. People

538
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: can literally visualize themselves at a time in their life,

539
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Speaker 1: and they were running around trying to figure something out

540
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Speaker 1: or making ways and trying to make things happen. You

541
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Speaker 1: you put yourself in that person's experience, even if you

542
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: never have the experience, and so it's a powerful way

543
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: to connect comedian to it. Telling stories on stage, right,

544
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: aren't just telling you their experiences. They're having you look

545
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Speaker 1: at the ridiculousness of what they thought or what they saw,

546
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: and you to see it and experience it. And even

547
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: if you haven't had an experienced, you you you you

548
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: resonate with it. And so I'm I'm helping people to

549
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: use their story to help them to resonate with the

550
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Speaker 1: people that they want to share their message and their

551
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: mission with. And it's about visibility. It's about creating impact

552
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: and becoming more profitable just by using what you already have.

553
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: So rather than putting up an Instagram post that says,

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Speaker 1: by my bundles of hair, you're explaining why you got

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Speaker 1: the hair business to begin with. Maybe you're an auntie

556
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Speaker 1: of yours had alopecia. She was so embarrassed that her

557
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Speaker 1: hair wasn't growing or whatever it is, and so you

558
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Speaker 1: wanted to create beautiful wigs or you know, something to

559
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Speaker 1: to make her feel like I don't know, you know whatever,

560
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: it is creating an engagement, creating that relationship. That's what

561
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: you're saying. A story can sell a long time versus

562
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: because everybody got hair. Everybody got hair. But why are

563
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Speaker 1: you engaged? Why is it important that you should be

564
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Speaker 1: You should come to me as a customer, tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell you a story. Your story sells a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: a single moll you know, uh, a person who's in

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Speaker 1: college or some birds who's trying to change their life,

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Speaker 1: their life and they've been working a job that they

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Speaker 1: don't like and this is their opportunity to break out

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Speaker 1: and they because I've known this is that you know

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Speaker 1: right now represents Steven A. Smith. And one of the

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Speaker 1: things he's he's an HPC you graduate. You know, he

573
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Speaker 1: he was held back in grade school and he's he

574
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: tells that story and people relate to that. And so

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00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: what happens in business people need to understand is that

576
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: relate to it. You can you can look, you can

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00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: tell like the Super Bowl Commerce. One of the most

578
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: popular Super Bowl commercials was the Google commercial and the

579
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Speaker 1: guy was talking about talking about back in the day

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Speaker 1: when he was remembering everything that was a story to

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Speaker 1: an emotion that they was tapping into, and that's what

582
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: you were talking about in your story. Tell the story

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00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: that's relatable to many and also will engage conversation. That

584
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Speaker 1: is a beautiful message. Kim Cole's thank you. You know

585
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Speaker 1: I created something that I can give every one of

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Speaker 1: your listeners. It's free. That's one of the first questions

587
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: I get was I don't know if I have a story. Well,

588
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't have any stories. They also saying, how do

589
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: I tell my story? About telling all my business? And

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: there's a way to do that too. But I have

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Speaker 1: a free gift for everybody listening, and you just go

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Speaker 1: to www. Dot do. We still say all the w

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Speaker 1: side I do, I do, I'm kind true, I do.

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Speaker 1: Come on now, Story with Kim dot Com. Story with

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Speaker 1: Kim dot Com. And that will give you a little

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Speaker 1: mini cores that I have that I give people some

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00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: of my favorite story pumps that will get you thinking

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Speaker 1: about and remembering stories that you haven't thought about for years,

599
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: and then we can talk about how to then connect

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Speaker 1: it to what you want to do. Do you want

601
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Speaker 1: to write a book? Do you want to become a speaker?

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00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Do you want to connect this? Uh? Sneeze. How do

603
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Speaker 1: I get to sneeze in the middle of the interview,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you get that crescendo too, you know

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Speaker 1: as you leave. That's like the minister about the called

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Speaker 1: everybody to the altar and just start coughing. I want

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Speaker 1: you to come and me. I mean, spirit is really

608
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Speaker 1: coming in now. It's all about connects your story to

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Speaker 1: everything else that you want to do. And I feel

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Speaker 1: that story is the foundation. So if I give you

611
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: this free many course, it will get you really thinking

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Speaker 1: about what stories are already inside of you. And then

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Speaker 1: I have a way to get a contact meet you

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Speaker 1: want to work further. So why don't you pretit free?

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00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I have little videos, I have worksheets for you, and

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00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: its story with Kim dot Com. Well, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: that out. I'm gonna talk to about my staff when

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Speaker 1: I get back to the office, and we're gonna we're

619
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Speaker 1: gonna go to your side. Get that creative post one

620
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Speaker 1: of your beautiful pictures that you have running around on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: And and also when I when you post on LinkedIn,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start liking your posts so you can get

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Speaker 1: in my timeline. I'm just telling you, Kim um, you're

624
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: you're such a breath of fresh air. Secondly, as you

625
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: and I know talent, my dear you, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: on TV doing this. Thank you, This is this is,

627
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Speaker 1: this is who you are. You know we can we

628
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: can go through life and say, oh she's a great

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Speaker 1: comedic actress. Oh she's so entertaining. But like you said,

630
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Speaker 1: I still entertain when I deliver my message. I deliver

631
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Speaker 1: a little sugar with the salt and all that good stuff.

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00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: And so that is I'm just hearing in this, in

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Speaker 1: this conversation that first of all, you bless my listeners.

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Speaker 1: We were us reconnecting in this manner is so awesome.

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Speaker 1: But more important the message, in the consistent tone in

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Speaker 1: your message, because you have that bob and hit that

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Speaker 1: bob and head information Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: you're bobbing head. Yeah she right. She listen to a bill,

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation, Roxanne Chantey. Well, thank you, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: love that intro. Well, first of all, let's let's just

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Speaker 1: talk about it is what I know, you know, you

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Speaker 1: know your individual I saw the Netflix movie Roxanne, Roxanne,

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Speaker 1: and now if you're doing this show Unsung, okay, and

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Speaker 1: the now you know, when they do movies, they kind

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Speaker 1: things in that movie. You know, your mom role in

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Speaker 1: away from that movie between the ages of fifteen and eighteen,

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Speaker 1: you led a pretty full life. Absolutely, And what we

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Speaker 1: sand Chante. I want to say, um uncensored. So what

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Speaker 1: So there were certain aspects of the movie things that

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Speaker 1: movie was factual. There was no Um, we didn't add

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Speaker 1: You know. I have a radio show daily on Serious

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Speaker 1: do that. I'm able to do that because there's a

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Speaker 1: And it led me to live just a happy life.

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Speaker 1: Well you have a great life, you know. I always

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Speaker 1: and as I grew up there. You know, it might

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Speaker 1: but it didn't damage me. It's part of my story's

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Speaker 1: part of who I am today. I learned. I always

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Speaker 1: an error in your life. And so so there was

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Speaker 1: the young lady who your your your hype lady That

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Speaker 1: was a real person. Yes, absolutely, best friend Katrina, Yes absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And I think I think everyone needs to have one

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Speaker 1: person who can give you that extra hype that you

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Speaker 1: there's some days now when we sit back and we

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Speaker 1: Look how you live, you know, because other people can

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Speaker 1: see the value in your situation when you can't. You

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Speaker 1: know that That's what I love the character because from

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Speaker 1: that came out thinking, uh, it's a great compelling movie.

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Speaker 1: Soon as as soon as you book for the show,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to watch it again. I Oh, I gotta

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Speaker 1: stumbling and so and so. You know, you know, you

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Speaker 1: and and the fact that you were so respected, how

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Speaker 1: you know, if we all know this is everything is

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Speaker 1: They could physically, mentally, you know, socially, and then here

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Speaker 1: journey with your little rapper, your little your little hype

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Speaker 1: master right there with you. Well, I think what it

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Speaker 1: And when I say being able to run through out life,

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Speaker 1: So it allowed me to be a great battle rapper

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Speaker 1: you know, who may walk away and say you didn't win,

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Speaker 1: show out. And I come from a family of women

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Speaker 1: that have always been able to do that. From when

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Speaker 1: my mom and my aunts would enter into dance contests,

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Speaker 1: and they would enter into dance contests pretending like they

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Speaker 1: didn't practice whole week. You know, they just show up

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Speaker 1: you can't be afraid of a crowd, whether there for

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Speaker 1: And um, I was able to do that. Now. You know,

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Speaker 1: of the environment that you grew up in. Okay, Well,

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00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: I grew up in. I grew up in Queensbridge Public Housing,

851
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: which is the largest housing project in the world, and

852
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: it was like a city. I grew up actually in

853
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: a city where a city inside of a city, where

854
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: you didn't have to go outside of the projects for anything.

855
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: You know, everything that you needed was their schools, medical clinic,

856
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 1: the stores, the sneaker stores, fish markets, frood stands. Everything

857
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: was inside of my projects, including a pool and a park.

858
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: Now we've always had a multimillion dollar you from our project,

859
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: apartment windows, which is now the apartments that people are

860
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: paying millions of dollars for, But we saw the value

861
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: in that. So I never really knew that I was

862
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: in a in a hood, you know, you know what,

863
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: I just didn't seem like we had our own train station.

864
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: So all the things that everyone inspired to have we

865
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: had in the project. And it was very family orientated.

866
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: So it was a very large family um housing project,

867
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: which I think is the reason why it was so

868
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: successful and still standing because there were families. They were

869
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: people who were really related to each other, you know,

870
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: families with sixteen children, families with ten children, families with

871
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: eleven children. So because of that, you know, they literally

872
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: took over the projects and so we didn't have a

873
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: lot of problems where a lot of other housing projects

874
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: had that. But when you go out to travel and

875
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: you bring your neighbors with you, you have thirty thousand neighbors,

876
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, when people stay like okay, well, you know,

877
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: you show up and you perform, and they said, well,

878
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have some people from your neighborhood come.

879
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: You gotta be like, no, I can't. And they'd be like,

880
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: well why even like my whole neighborhood will fill this

881
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: whole arena, Like I can't invite my whole neighborhood where

882
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: some people grew up on a block, you know, you

883
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: ten people off your block, you ten thousand on one block.

884
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: So it was just different, you know, for that, but

885
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: it was a blessing and it was one of the

886
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: reasons why I was able to walk with no fear

887
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: going into places because no matter where you went, there

888
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: was always somebody from Queensbridge there. And that is a

889
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: true story. Whether I was in Germany, it would be

890
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: somebody who went in the army from Queensbridge who went

891
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: in the army and they was in Germany showed up

892
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: at the show, you know. So it was just a

893
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: blessing to be born where I was born, especially to

894
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: be born to who I was born to, you know,

895
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: having such a great, strong mom, someone who was no nonsense.

896
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: You was near a long played that role girl. Oh

897
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: you killed it killed. And even thing about it is

898
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: that you know, I grew up in the househole where

899
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: you were able to use for fanny as an expression.

900
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: You know, now you couldn't just go around cursing people

901
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: out at the moment arise where you need to say it.

902
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, I remember the first time I heard my

903
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: grandmother use foul language. It came out of her mouth,

904
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: so I guess I want to say, like, it came

905
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: out of her mouth so smoothly. I thought she was

906
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: singing to the lady. And I was like, you know what,

907
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait to sing that song. I love it.

908
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: I love you know. Let's let's let's go back to

909
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: your mom. The Nia long played the role. You know,

910
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: she was a strong lady in the in the movie series. Uh.

911
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, she has a guy she's dated and he

912
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: does her wrong and and she's just a single mom

913
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: just trying to give the best life for her daughters.

914
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: And but she kept stressing education. She kept saying, stay

915
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: in school, stay in school, Stay in school. How did

916
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: that message play out in your life? Now? That message

917
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: of staying is get an education. All this is all good,

918
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: but you get an education, you better than this, right. Well,

919
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: the thing about it was that she understood the importance

920
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: of having one because coming from the rural South, there

921
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that were not available to

922
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: them that she felt was available in the city, Like

923
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: I went to school. Even though we grew up together

924
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: inside of Queen's Bridge projects, where most children went to

925
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: public school, which is like PS one eleven, my mom

926
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: chose to have us become bust children, which means we

927
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: were bust out of the neighborhood into other schools. And

928
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: though there was our own personal difficulties with doing that,

929
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're the only black child in

930
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: all white school, you know there are certain things that

931
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: you deal with on a daily basis that you wouldn't

932
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: deal with if you went to school with people in

933
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. But my mom's strategy was that, listen, you

934
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: don't live with these foods. You're gonna be with these foods.

935
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: But you know what, the world is a lot bigger

936
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: than Queen's Bridge, So I need you to start your

937
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: education outside of there, and so for me it was

938
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: always very very important in uh in wanting to pursue it,

939
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: understanding the importance of it, and even now having a program,

940
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: having a nonprofit program with my husband called Mind of

941
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: a Matter where we go into the schools to make

942
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: sure these young ladies stay in school from the ninth

943
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: to the twelfth grade. We followed them both academically and

944
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: personally to make sure that they understand the importance to school.

945
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: And I tell everyone that, I said, listen, you know,

946
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: I am an advocate for higher education because I know

947
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: how important it is. But I've also experienced the world

948
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: of I like to say, the mean world of smart

949
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: people where they feel that, you know, you must have

950
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: certain documentation in order to even be heard. So I

951
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: tell everyone, like, listen, self education is great, um, if

952
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: you're able to pursue it. A further academic education is great,

953
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, into into the world of academia, bring your

954
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: own home lessons with you, and then you'll be able

955
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: to be successful. Wow. Okay, now you just laid it

956
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: out there. You know, I'm not a guy who would

957
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: put sentences together like that, fair, you know, but you

958
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: just like articulated this and they just stopped, though, sell

959
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: I don't like you. I don't like you, rock say,

960
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't like you. You know what I'm saying. You know,

961
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: you just just just laying out centers at the centers

962
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: at the centers at the center, and then you just stopped.

963
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: Or you're battling me. Are you ready for me to spit?

964
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: Because they ain't gona apple, it ain't gonna happen, thank you.

965
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: I like the way you put that. Maybe I'm always on.

966
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: I guess that is the battle wrapper and me that

967
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: allows me to uh articulate the way I do. But

968
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I've also been tapped on the back and

969
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: told that I was a pretty good artist. But you

970
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: are you are. That's that's the gift, that's that's the journey,

971
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: and that's you know. I look at that you know

972
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: represents Steven A. Smith for that on ESPN, and I

973
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: talked to my god, man, you got a gift, man.

974
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: Your ability to just to put a sentence after a

975
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: centence after a centence, and then just to see something

976
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: and just to capture it and then just give it

977
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: back to a view or listen. That's a gift. And

978
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: so when I looked at you when I was watching

979
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: the show and listening to your music and watching the battles,

980
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: and you just effortless, just just taking all this information.

981
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: And now, no, listen to me and my degrees in mathematics,

982
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: so I know about numbers. I know how you got

983
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: to bring stuff in and to just spit out the information.

984
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: You getting all this information, you got noise, you've got

985
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: people boo, and you've got people cheering, you got somebody

986
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: screaming in your face, and then you got to articulate

987
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: all that information back to them. That is a gift,

988
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: young lady. Thank you, but don't, but don't do that

989
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: to me. No more, don't, don't don't ratle off by

990
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: fifteen sentences and didn't stop them again because you know

991
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna confind you. I'm gonna find you. You're not

992
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna do me on my show. I know that, I

993
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna be back with more. Just my

994
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: friend now Rock said SAT Day, We'll be right back

995
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,759
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996
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,600
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997
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,840
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1001
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1002
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,279
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1003
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,960
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1004
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1006
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Speaker 1: you're listening to Money Making Conversation Roxanne Shante. She's also

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1008
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1009
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: Nice Day on Sirius XM satellite radio. Tell us about

1010
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: that day, that show and how did it get started. Well,

1011
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: actually I was able to get and it's so funny

1012
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: because this is how it started. L l Um l

1013
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: CLUJ reached out and said, listen, you know I want

1014
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: to interview you about the movie. I'm gonna interview you

1015
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: and Nia and I was like, okay, great, so I

1016
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: went out to l A. When I went out to

1017
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: l A, we started to an interview similar to this one,

1018
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden at the end of

1019
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: the interview, because I had him laughing, I had him

1020
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: most crying. We talked about past, said future everything. He said,

1021
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: you know what you need to be on radio and

1022
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: I was like, you think so, and he was like,

1023
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: I know so, and I'm gonna make it happen. And

1024
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, you know, just just taking

1025
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: a nonchalanes, no problems. You know, you got my number,

1026
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: you let me know. And by the time I got home,

1027
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: he had me come in for an air check. And

1028
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: when I went in for an air check, the I

1029
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: thought I had did something wrong, and the lady came

1030
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: back to me and she was like, that is the

1031
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: best air check I have ever heard. And I have

1032
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: been in radio for over twenty years. I've never had

1033
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: a person come in and ace it in just the

1034
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: first try. She said, listen, if they don't hire you,

1035
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch of other places that will.

1036
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: So we started laughing about it, and then the next thing,

1037
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, we started having a nice day. Oh my goodness. Now,

1038
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: how did the name come about? How did the name

1039
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: come about? Well, it came from the fact that you know,

1040
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't hold any animosity I'm I'm a very pleasant

1041
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: person when people meet me. Of course, we all have

1042
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: our sides that you know, if I'm in a battle

1043
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: and you know I'm stopping you right there, You're so

1044
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: funny to me because I could tell you you're sweet,

1045
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: You're nice, you know, bless you. Uh God is good.

1046
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: But boy, they get you in the right kitchen standing

1047
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: next to the right knife, it's gonna comes. You're gonna

1048
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: pick it up and throwing at them. You are something else.

1049
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna bust hell. WHI that's the that's the beauty

1050
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: of your personality. I you know, I'm gonna tell I

1051
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: got six sisters and and and and just talking to you,

1052
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, I could just see myself just laughing and

1053
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: punching on the shoulder and you call a little fool,

1054
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm calling you stupid and hugging each other and crying

1055
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: at the same time. That's that's a that's a that's

1056
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: a blessing. I'm just telling you that. To be able

1057
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: to be that friendly but that engaging at the same time,

1058
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's your gifts. That's one of your gifts.

1059
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know. It's because I love people and

1060
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: and I know that there's gonna always be a time

1061
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: where everyone is not gonna love you and everyone is

1062
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: not gonna like you. But you don't have to give

1063
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: them a reason to do that, you know that, just

1064
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: leave it on them to feel their own way. But

1065
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: I don't add anything to it for that to be

1066
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: the case. I just like for everyone to have a

1067
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: nice day. I feel like there's so much going on

1068
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: in the world, and I've had so many I've had

1069
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: so many sad days. But the main thing is, you know,

1070
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: I know what it is to want to have a

1071
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: nice day, because I know what it is for people

1072
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: to try to make you not have a nice day. Okay, cool. Now,

1073
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the our interview was talking about that.

1074
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I said, well, did they add anything that they drop anything, Rashan,

1075
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: You said, Rashan, look, uh, we kind of kind of

1076
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: kind of tamed it down, so you know, parents can

1077
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: watch with their kids and get a learning lessons out

1078
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: of this. Great great acting were received on Netflix. Now

1079
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: Unsong calls you walk us through that whole process. Well,

1080
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: I had already appeared. The reason how the way I

1081
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: got an unsung was because I had appeared on so

1082
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: many Unsung and had so many for everyone. You know,

1083
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: they were like, hold on, did you have my own son?

1084
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: And I was like no. And then with the movie

1085
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: and then with the radio station. You know, we weren't

1086
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: even sure if I was Unsung or if I was

1087
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: singing again right right. They said, listen, we think that

1088
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: it's your time to have an Unsung and I said

1089
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: absolutely because I'm a huge fan of the show and

1090
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: I've always thought that in order to get out of

1091
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: certain information because I love the approach that it took.

1092
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, I'll definitely do it. And so

1093
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: that's how we came out with me being able to

1094
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: do my own Unsung. Now with that being said, talk

1095
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: about what big what role did you play and putting

1096
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: it together? Do you have any saying it? Did you

1097
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: have any producing powers in it? Or you just wanted

1098
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: to make sure that they said we're gonna go in

1099
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: this direction you said, no, go in this direction. How

1100
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: to what role did you play in their actual production

1101
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: or put together the creative process. Well, for the creative

1102
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: process of Unsung, they pretty much have their producers how

1103
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: they would like for it to look. I think when

1104
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: people say that they may be and I'm not sure

1105
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: if I've ever heard anyone say this, but for people

1106
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: to say that they may be unhappy with their unsung,

1107
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: that meant that they were unhappy with their life. That

1108
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: meant that there were certain aspects of their life. Maybe

1109
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: they chose not to reveal the Rox and Shante stories

1110
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: an open book. I just tell everybody that you gotta

1111
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: make sure you read something else before you read mine,

1112
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: because it shouldn't be the only book that you read,

1113
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be some things in there that you

1114
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: need to know about. And so I just went to

1115
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: them with, you know, it was an open heart, open mind,

1116
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: open spirit, and was like, okay, come on, let's do it.

1117
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: And they were like, well, let's talk about this. I said, okay, fine.

1118
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: And if you notice in my Unsung I really allowed

1119
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: others to tell the story and then gave my opinion

1120
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: on their version of the story. I don't think any

1121
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: other unsungs did that. I felt like it wasn't no

1122
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: need for me to say, well, I did this for

1123
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: this one. Instead, it may be that person who says

1124
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: what I did from them, or I did say this

1125
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: person did that to me. No one else said, look

1126
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: what happened to her. And you know, because I s

1127
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: who I've always lived life. I've never taken things and

1128
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: carried them with me. That's why I'm able to travel, so,

1129
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, travel so much because I have every luggage,

1130
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: I can travel absolutely absolutely. Here's the fun part about

1131
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: my interview with you and uh and just the information

1132
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: you're giving everybody is that, first of all, you're very honest. Look,

1133
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm not over here trying to sugarcoat this is this

1134
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: is my story. I can tell you a darker story.

1135
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: I can tell you this story which whichever you want

1136
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,959
Speaker 1: to sit down here, okay, but what I'm not gonna

1137
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: do is brag about what I've complied. But that's why.

1138
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: That's why you're a legend. See a legend can that

1139
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: when you're a legend, Rock Sane, See other people can

1140
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: tell their story about you. You go, yeah, that's right,

1141
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: But that's how it really happened. Now, there were two

1142
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: very prominent names that popped up in your movie Rock

1143
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: sand Rocks Bis Marquis, Yes and Yes tell us about

1144
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: both those relationships started with Bis Marquis. My relationship with

1145
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: this this is my brother beyond brother. If you can

1146
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: even give someone that title, we've traveled together. He was

1147
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: the first person to say to me, listen, don't you

1148
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: know we're gonna be stars, You're gonna be big starts. Yeah,

1149
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, let's just get it and do these battles.

1150
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: He was like, no, it's gonna be bigger than this.

1151
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: You watch, And I told him myself, well, listen, my

1152
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: stage is your stage. So as with everyone that was

1153
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: in the Juice crew, they all started off as like

1154
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: my DJ first, but it wasn't like I wanted them

1155
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: to be my DJ and seeing him as a support

1156
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: and there, oh, yeah, you're gonna be my DJ, and

1157
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: it's no. I wanted them to be my DJ so

1158
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 1: I could get them on the stage and then I'd

1159
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: switched places with them during my show and let them perform.

1160
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: And then I'm standing behind the turntables. I'm not doing nothing,

1161
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: but I'm just standing behind it and making it like

1162
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing so that this way they would be able

1163
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: to have the same platform. I've never had a problem

1164
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: with sharing my platform because anyone, you know, all I

1165
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: say is that when you come on board, you come

1166
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: on board and bring your best, you know, don't just

1167
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: come up here just to do it. Because I never

1168
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: wanted anybody to feel like, well, you know what, it's

1169
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: just the rock stand Shanta thing and not take it

1170
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: seriously and even to get to the point of nas

1171
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, I told now, it's like you you're great,

1172
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, so now listen, you come back when you

1173
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: got everything together, because why come out and do some

1174
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: little rhymes that don't even represent you know, how knowledgeable

1175
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: you are, you know, how smart at you are, how

1176
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: brilliant you are, how intelligent you are. And so the

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, he came back and he was

1178
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: nasty nuns and how It's like, okay, awesome. Now you

1179
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: know it's it's you know, you are a you know,

1180
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: like I said, in my life, I'm always paying it

1181
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: for I'm always uh step it out of my comfort

1182
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: zone and telling people how great they can be and

1183
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: pushing them forward and and it's paying back to me

1184
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: for me in my life right now. And I was

1185
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: just doing it. And I tend to believe that's part

1186
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,959
Speaker 1: of your natural personality too. No matter what you're doing

1187
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: good and bad in your life, I feel you always

1188
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: have something good to say when you to somebody who

1189
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: deserves to hear it or need to hear it correct. Yes, absolutely,

1190
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: I am definitely a person who will always point out

1191
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: the positive in people and give them that push. I stop,

1192
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: I feed the homeless um if I'm going, I could

1193
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: be on my way going to have a dinner, and

1194
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: if there's someone outside and they said that they're hungry,

1195
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: I'll go inside, purchach them and dinner, bring it outside

1196
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: to them before I even sit down and get comfortable

1197
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: and have my own dinner. Because I know what it's

1198
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: like to to look at those who have and you

1199
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: don't have and wish you had, and then you say, well,

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01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: you know what, when I get in that position, I'm

1201
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: never gonna be selfish like them. I'm never going to

1202
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: be that way. And I stick to that and and

1203
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: that's that's the way I lived my life to know

1204
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: that all the things that I said when I was younger,

1205
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: all the things that I said when I was in

1206
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: the streets, or the things when I said when I

1207
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: was boosting the stores when I was by myself, that

1208
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: I made sure to be able to once I was

1209
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: in a position to make sure that everyone was good.

1210
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's even to a fault because you're so

1211
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: busy sharing and people are so busy stealing that you

1212
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: don't even realize that that's what's happening right now. Here's

1213
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about you because in the movie, you know,

1214
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: it ends with that moment with os, but we all

1215
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: know that you pursued education with the college and pursued

1216
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: higher education. How did they come out with did you

1217
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: pay for your your college education? How was that? How

1218
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: was that funding along the way? And how many years

1219
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: to take you to go through that process? Well, what

1220
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: it was was that I started off as a great

1221
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: keynote speaker, as I'm sure that you can tell from

1222
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: how I speak now, that I was wanted and a

1223
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: lot of universities to come out and I would speak

1224
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: on the fact of pursuing higher education. During that time,

1225
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: the record company was supposed to pay for my my education,

1226
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: and it got to a point where they were no

1227
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: longer paying for it. So anyone that has been in

1228
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: school or has went through that, you know what it

1229
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: is to get that dreadful call to the burst's office

1230
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: when they tell you that you know your school has

1231
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: not been paid for up until this point, then you

1232
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: have then you have to leave school. And as I

1233
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: was leaving, I remember speaking with one of my professors

1234
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, you need to go

1235
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: and speak about this out into the world. And so

1236
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: I became a keynote speaker us the moniker of Dr

1237
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: Roxing and Chantaye started there. Wow, so you they were

1238
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: they were, they were paying for your education and it

1239
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: is just stopped. Yes, And did you did you follow

1240
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: up on that? Why did they stop or did you

1241
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: just forget that? I'm just gonna handle it myself exactly.

1242
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, and there's certain things

1243
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: that you know, your single mom, you're out here, you're

1244
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: trying to make things happen, and you're unable to continue

1245
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: with it. So you pick up whatever it is that

1246
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: you're able to do and you're able to pursue from it.

1247
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: But I do say this much as I say to

1248
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: anyone that is listening, that I definitely support everyone to

1249
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: go as far in their education as possible. Higher education

1250
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: is a must. Having a degree to a certain extent

1251
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: is what it does is it allows and opens up

1252
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: doors for you. When I get the chance to because

1253
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: now I have been blessed so much to have so

1254
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: many things on my plate, I would love to go

1255
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: back and pursue my education because that's something that I've

1256
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: always wanted to do. Wow, you know, I'd say the

1257
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: same thing I tell people that. You know, when I

1258
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: came out of high school, I wanted to be a

1259
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: forklift driver, and I became a four flivve driver. And

1260
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: then I dropped the box on the guy's hand and

1261
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: broke it and they fired me. So that was the

1262
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: end of my forklift driving career. And then I walked

1263
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: on campus and at the University of Houston and saw

1264
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: some things that mostly the the nice looking ladies, and

1265
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: I went, that's that I need to go to college.

1266
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: And college changed my life. You know that. That's whatever

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Speaker 1: something I preach about on this show, having that balanced life.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. Oh, one thing that you

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Speaker 1: Conversations dot com. My next guest is the Food editor

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Speaker 1: of The New York Times, a columnist for The New

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Speaker 1: York Times magazine, and the founding editor n y T Cooking,

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Speaker 1: an award winning digital cookbook and cookie school. He is

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Speaker 1: also the author of Thanksgiving, how to Cook It Well.

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Speaker 1: He's only show to talk about his newest cookbook, and

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Speaker 1: I would put the word amazing. Cookbook see you on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: A cookbook for Family and Friends, available now from Random House.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation, Sam Sifton. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing? Sam? I had to had to put the

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Speaker 1: word amazing in front of your cookbook outside cookbook for

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Speaker 1: Family and Friends. Um, Sam, I've been doing this show

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Speaker 1: well if I have a long history you know radio

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Speaker 1: syndicated radio Steve Harvey had launched this talk show in

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Speaker 1: twelve So I saw a lot of recipe books and

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Speaker 1: a lot of cooks and a lot of chefs in

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Speaker 1: my time. I've done this show since a lot of chefs.

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Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. I'm award winning baker. I have an

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Speaker 1: app with like eighty recipe baking recipes. Your book, my

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Speaker 1: friend and I have like bye bye bye over the years.

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Speaker 1: I got by by form they sitting in my house

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Speaker 1: that I love yours. Go to the go to the

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Speaker 1: top of the line. This is an amazing cookbook. Well,

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Speaker 1: I thank you for saying so. I wrote it because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to um put out into the world a

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Speaker 1: message that if you cook for your family, if you

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Speaker 1: cook for your friends, and you do so on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis, so that people can think like it doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be a Sunday. It could be a Thursday

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Speaker 1: night or a Saturday night. But if people know that

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Speaker 1: it's coming and can count on it in some way,

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Speaker 1: then they count on you, and you count on them.

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Speaker 1: Your life and their lives are gonna be better. And

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Speaker 1: the recipes, I'm glad you love them. I love them too,

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Speaker 1: but they're incidental to to the message and the messages.

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Speaker 1: Regularity matters, and building that kind of community matters, and

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Speaker 1: family matters. But I'll tell you I take a much

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Speaker 1: wider view of what constitutes family than the dictionary does. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're plenty. Anybody's welcome at my table. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's important to say and to and to and a

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Speaker 1: truth to walk and believe in. Um there, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think I say in the book people are lonely.

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Speaker 1: You've got to feed them, and you need to find

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Speaker 1: them in your community alongside your family. Family the most important.

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Speaker 1: But take a wide view of what family is. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting you say that because I come from

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Speaker 1: a big family, you know, six sisters, two brothers when

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Speaker 1: I was growing up. And I've become successful in my life.

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Speaker 1: I travel a lot, so I tend to eat by

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Speaker 1: myself a lot. And right, and I really don't appreciate

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Speaker 1: the meal. I'm just consuming the meal. And and that's

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Speaker 1: not fair to the moment I feel. And sometimes I

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Speaker 1: see other people and and you know, and and I've

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Speaker 1: actually walked to other people's tables. Hey, you like the company.

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Speaker 1: You know, some people have looked at me where you're

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Speaker 1: you know, and but that that, but I know that

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Speaker 1: some people have sat down. We had a marvelous time

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Speaker 1: the moment of dinner. It was extended longer and uh,

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Speaker 1: and we learned something about each other. You know and

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Speaker 1: and and our values have were shared there. And that's

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Speaker 1: what dinner time and eating really supposed to be about.

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Speaker 1: It supposed to be an experience in the moment, correct,

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Speaker 1: And that's what that's what you're sharing in this book.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree that is what that is what I like.

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Speaker 1: But you raise a really interesting point, which is that

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Speaker 1: for for those of us who have seen some success

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Speaker 1: in their in their lives, it does lead to travel,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't generally lead to solo travel. And you

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Speaker 1: know you're describing that, I've been that. I've been that

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Speaker 1: guy sitting alone at the bar with the book those

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Speaker 1: Wings and thinking I'm supposed to be the guy telling

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Speaker 1: everybody to share a family dinner and I'm eating to

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Speaker 1: play the wings alone at the hotel bar. I think

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right that that we need to reach out

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Speaker 1: and try every time we gather in the presence of

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Speaker 1: food and drink to to to connect. Yeah, because it's

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Speaker 1: what great food leads to a great atmosphere, leads to

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Speaker 1: a good conversation, leads to a relationship building moment. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I really just let me tell you that

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Speaker 1: I got your book if it came in the A

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Speaker 1: Ups yesterday afternoon, and I arrived home, so I knew

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Speaker 1: it was at my house, and so immediately opened these

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Speaker 1: recipe books up and I go to the front of

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Speaker 1: the back and I go, and I like, I got

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Speaker 1: over the years, I got liked by four books, and uh,

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Speaker 1: your book. I immediately went to the dessert section and

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Speaker 1: I went to Peach Packe and I read that. I go,

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Speaker 1: you got to be kidding me. Is that easy? That's simple?

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Speaker 1: Your recipes wrote your book A frighteningly simple. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: designed to be my belief is, and my belief is

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Speaker 1: and you know that I've said this before. Um, they're

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Speaker 1: trying to trick us half the time with these recipes

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Speaker 1: that make it like it's like it's a science experiment

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Speaker 1: or you're building a rocket to go to the moon.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be that way. If you think

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Speaker 1: how your mother or your grandmother cooked, there wasn't it

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Speaker 1: wasn't complicated. Um, it's just a it's a it's step

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Speaker 1: by step by step. And I try as much as possible,

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Speaker 1: and in my development of the recipes and my writing

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Speaker 1: of the recipes, to make the language as clear as

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Speaker 1: possible so that there's no mystery to it um and

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Speaker 1: I'm not invested in making anyone believe that it's more

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Speaker 1: complicated than it really is. Uh, it should be simple.

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Speaker 1: It is simple. I'm talking to Sam Sifton his book

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Speaker 1: See You on Sunday, a cookbook for family and France.

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Speaker 1: So I getting and so I cook a lot, I

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Speaker 1: bake a lot. So you have. You have a great

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Speaker 1: portion of the book how to set up your kitchen.

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Speaker 1: You know, getting ready. You should always be ready for

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Speaker 1: the moment. I was ready for the moment when this

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Speaker 1: book arrives. Okay, Sam, so so so I went to

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Speaker 1: this section and said, pan roasted chicken thighs. And I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you on on Tuesday, I just went to the

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Speaker 1: store and bought some chicken thigh I love chicken thighs,

1477
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: chicken breast. I just like the keeping and draw mat.

1478
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: I like to keep them in there. I could just

1479
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: put some sometimes some just some cream e mushroom soup

1480
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: over them and put some cheese on the Bam, it's

1481
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: ready for me, like Craig and so so I went

1482
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: in there, I went, okay, now this this is too simple.

1483
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 1: Twil bone and skin on chicken thighs, kasher salt, freshly

1484
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: ground black pepper, a half a cup of of oral

1485
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: such as canola or grape seed. That's it. Yeah, man,

1486
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: that's it. I kid you not. I followed these instructions

1487
01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: and had a marvelous meal last night. Marvels even chicken

1488
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: you need the cream and mushroom soup. You didn't need

1489
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: to check checking this this this right here. You know,

1490
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: I never met you saying I fell in love with

1491
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 1: you right there, my brother, we became brethren and food

1492
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: right there. I was eating by myself. But I was

1493
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 1: thinking about you the whole time. And that's the purpose

1494
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: of this book. Correct, God is correct. Although I would

1495
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: hope that we could um not just eat alone, but

1496
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: eat was a group of people and sharing the fellowship

1497
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: of the table and and watch our lives improve over

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01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: time as a result. Well, you know the thing when

1499
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: I when I said that thinking about you is that,

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01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, just personalized in my life because a lot

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: of times I eat, I just eat, okay, And and

1502
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: but this time I was enjoying the meal. I was

1503
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 1: enjoying the journey of how I got to the middle,

1504
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: and enjoying the person who brought this experience to me.

1505
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: And that was important for me to say in this

1506
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: interview with you, and important to tell people why I'm

1507
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: so I'm so excited about this book. See you on Sunday.

1508
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: You know it's a great book is by Sam Syfton,

1509
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: Food editor of The New York Times. And when I

1510
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: when I when I go through the book, you know

1511
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: it opens what you talk about family, talk about your kids,

1512
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: and you talk about the importance of that relationship. But

1513
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: the point that really I really liked about its early

1514
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: on in the book, how to p call it, how

1515
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: to set up your kitchen? How to this? Why that

1516
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: so important? Well, I think it's important to kind of

1517
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: set the stage for how you're actually going to get

1518
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: this done. I see it as my job to give

1519
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: you the confidence, uh to execute these recipes, to to

1520
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: execute a change in your life where you're cooking on

1521
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: the regular for family and friends. And in order to

1522
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: do that, I think you need to have you gotta

1523
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: have your stuff, correct, You gotta have the tools that

1524
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: you need, you gotta have the pantry supplies that you need.

1525
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of stuff, right right, But it's

1526
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: really not like it's not bossy, it's not impossible. It's

1527
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: just kind of getting your stuff correct so that you

1528
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: can execute uh, the recipes. And I think it's like

1529
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: just breaking it down as simply as possible offers people

1530
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: on the chance to be confident that they're gonna have

1531
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: a successful outcome when they turn to a recipe. I

1532
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: think too often when I read a recipe, I'm not

1533
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: set up for it. I'm like, wait, what, Chetta what?

1534
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: And I don't want to ever put anybody in that

1535
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: position where they think, oh gosh, this isn't for me.

1536
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: Guess what it is for you. I don't care where

1537
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: you're from, but I don't care how old you are, young,

1538
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: you are, where you live in the country. You're going

1539
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: to be able to pull these recipes off and have

1540
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: a good result with your friends and your family. Man,

1541
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: this is awesome. You're we're listening to Sam Sifton his great,

1542
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: amazing book recipe book, Cookbook, uh family book, see you

1543
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday, a cookbook for family and friends. People right back,

1544
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: because now I'm gonna break down these recipes. I'm not

1545
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna get you all the recipes, but we got to

1546
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 1: talk about this is the book, a book to you, y'all.

1547
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: This is the Bible recipe books. Here, Sam has created

1548
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: something that I'm gonna tell you. I'm saying, my wife

1549
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: just got back in town. She's gonna fight me for

1550
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: this book. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host of

1551
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, who calls Rushan Shell,

1552
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: please work on the money Making Conversations. Comedian Dean Cole.

1553
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: A lot of people fail to realize when you're look

1554
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: in the mirror every morning, you passed the most unique

1555
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: thing in the world. And I talked about this in

1556
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: my stand up. You are unique in every way. You

1557
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: gotta look at what's unique and you and then capitalize

1558
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: on that. Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot

1559
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: McDonald and you're listening to Money Making Conversation. I'm excited.

1560
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: Everybody knows I'm a foodie. Everybody love no I love dessert.

1561
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: Everybody know that if I if I see a good meal,

1562
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about it. If I see a

1563
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: good meal, if I'm eating a good meal, I take

1564
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: a picture and forced to post it. I have this

1565
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: uh blog of my social media called Rashaan Eats where

1566
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: I travel around and if I eat a great meal,

1567
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: I take a picture and post it and help recommend

1568
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: people to uh go to this restaurant and eat the

1569
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: particular meal that I am so enjoyed at that restaurant.

1570
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: And and everybody knows that when I sit down and eat,

1571
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: I will order my dessert before I order my meal,

1572
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: because I love my desserts, but also I love good food.

1573
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: And this book that I'm talking about on the show today,

1574
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: See You on Sunday at Cookbook for Family and Friends.

1575
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: It's one of the best books recipe books I've ever read.

1576
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 1: And I've been involved with television and radio since two thousand,

1577
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: so talking to roughly twenty years of reading books and

1578
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:51,520
Speaker 1: interviewing the chefs, booking chefs, booking the author's of cookbooks

1579
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: and recipe books. This is by far as the best

1580
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: book I've ever read. See You on Sunday, A Cookbook

1581
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 1: for Family and Friends. When I say that to yourself,

1582
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: what runs through your mind? I'm just so thankful. I'm

1583
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: so thankful to you for saying that. I'm so thankful

1584
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: for the twenty years I put into learning how to

1585
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: write about food and learning how to report about food.

1586
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: All I ever wanted to do is communicate um that

1587
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 1: that cooking could make your life better and make other

1588
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: people's lives better. That it's a kind of service, a

1589
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: form of service that matters, and to here reflected in

1590
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: your joy Uh, overjoys, I'm overjoyed. Well, i'nna take you.

1591
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some when you when you when

1592
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 1: you sit down to cook and think about it, because

1593
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: you know food is important to you and that's a's

1594
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: and you can't live without it. That's gonna be real.

1595
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: And so so what what started you on that journey?

1596
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: Who pointed you in the direction that of this this

1597
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: passion that you have. Now, Well, it's interesting. I grew

1598
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: up in New York City. In New York City is

1599
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: a great food town, so you know, in a remarkably

1600
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: diverse restaurant scene, and you can't as a kid, you'r

1601
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,839
Speaker 1: and everything from you know, you're eating slices of pizza

1602
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: and Chinese food and there's some Sri Lankan place because

1603
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: there's a kid in your third grade class who parents

1604
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: running eat there, and I mean it's just crazy. But

1605
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: so that's those are the kind of table steaks of

1606
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: being a New York kid. But when I got to college,

1607
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: I needed to make money, uh, and I had a

1608
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: roommate who was a bartender at a fancy restaurant in town.

1609
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: And the waitresses in this fancy restaurant were beautiful, and

1610
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: I thought, I gotta try and get a job in there.

1611
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: And I got a job as the cash year, and

1612
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: the cashier also pulled coffee for the customers and for

1613
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: the kitchen staff. And these guys would come out of

1614
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: the kitchen and their whites and bandanas and sweaty with

1615
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: their knives, and I'd make them these giant coffee drinks.

1616
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, those guys are cool. I want

1617
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: to try that. And so I went to the chef

1618
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: and I asked if I could work in the kitchen,

1619
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: and he gave me a job as a as a

1620
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: prep cook, and I worked my way up over the

1621
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: course of my college career to do a pretty good

1622
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: job as a line cook there. Um. And I always

1623
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to be a journalist, but all of

1624
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: a sudden I had another trade, another adrenalized tragedy um,

1625
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: and I loved it. And the combination of my desire

1626
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: to be a journalist and my love of my time

1627
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: in the kitchen yielded a pretty good career. And my

1628
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: friend here's the beauty of this whole conversation that we

1629
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: have it. I'm just gonna tell you why this book

1630
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: excited me. Okay, because I'm a Southern boar. I have

1631
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: lived in New York, I have lived in Chicago. I

1632
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: may live years in New York. I lived in the

1633
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Upper east Side, and then I lived in thirty thirty

1634
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: nine in first and so in all overhaul, I'm not

1635
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: eating in Brooklyn. And I lived in Chicago for four years.

1636
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: I lived in Los Angeles for fifteen years. I live

1637
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: in I live currently in Atlanti since two thousand and seven.

1638
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: And I was born and raised in Houston, Texas. So

1639
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy and then and also as

1640
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian, I traveled all over this country

1641
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: telling Joe So, I've eaten all over this country. And

1642
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: so when I get this book, I get that, I

1643
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: get I get my my life experience of eating. I'm

1644
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: tell you why, y'all. Okay, he is Delaware fried chicken

1645
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: in there, Okay, Because you know, as I go through

1646
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: this menu check it, I'm trying to figure out who

1647
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: am I talking to? Am I talking to black guy?

1648
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talking to my mamma, talk to a white guy,

1649
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: you know. Then he goes to the best glaze ham,

1650
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: then he goes to barbecue brisket, and then he goes

1651
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: to corn bread. But check out, he makes his corn

1652
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: bread though flour and corn meal or I know I'm

1653
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble for that with some of your listeners. Flower,

1654
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. You know, I'm making that. Sam,

1655
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's no way I don't make that that

1656
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: right there, and then he then he falls it up

1657
01:26:54,800 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: with corn pudding. If that's not enough, gumbo, this was

1658
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: this was threw me. This was threw me. Jamaican hackstails do.

1659
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: That's so that's a classic of New York. That is

1660
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: a classic. So can I tell you about that, Stu?

1661
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: Please tell me because I'm going like, Okay, who am

1662
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: I going to interview tomorrow? Five to ten people? I'm

1663
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna interview tomorrow. You're just interviewing. I've been listen. I

1664
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: was a national news editor of the New York Times.

1665
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: It's not telling jokes, but it does get you around

1666
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: the country. So I've eaten all over this great land,

1667
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: but I come back again and again to New York

1668
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: City and the diversity that it offers. There is a

1669
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: small family owned Jamaican restaurant business here in New York

1670
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: called Golden Crust. They make patties. I love you stores exactly,

1671
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: but they have a couple of actual retail restaurants and

1672
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: I've been going to one or two of them for

1673
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: most of my adult life. And I'm a very polite person,

1674
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: and I go in and I was, and but there

1675
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: have been times when when the road has been difficult

1676
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 1: and I've been a little let's say, not wealthy, but broke,

1677
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: and I couldn't go for the full platter of rice

1678
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: and peas um oxtail stew, and the cabins right, So

1679
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: I would ask for rice and peas, and then I

1680
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: would say, could I have some oxtail gravy on that?

1681
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 1: And these women would look at me like what is it?

1682
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: Like I ask, and then they would give it to

1683
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: me and it was delicious. Anyway. I eventually became, you know,

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01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: a reporter at the New York Times, and I was

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01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: able to get through to the family and tell them

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01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: this story and ask them if they could share with me,

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01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: uh their recipe for for oxtail stew, which they did

1688
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: extremely reluctantly. Um, and with very good reason. And I

1689
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: worked on it and worked on it, worked on it,

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01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: and that I'm very proud of that recipe. That's a

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01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: damn good look. Okay, Now I'm not through everybody. I'm

1692
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: not through because he's hitting he's hitting more home runs

1693
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: with your ball here, Rashana. Then he goes in the

1694
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: crab cake to love. But this is what got me

1695
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: because I've always wanted to know how to make risulto.

1696
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, rasulto. Okay, did you'll just hear what I

1697
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: just said. Barbecue, fried chicken, corn bread, corn putting, gumbo,

1698
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: Jamaican oxstair, crab cakes, rizzuto, all in the same book here,

1699
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: All very simple, already very easy to read. And believe

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01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: that you can do it. That's that's what I love

1701
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: about your book. When I when I look at the recipe,

1702
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: I believe I can accomplish that. You can't accomplish that,

1703
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: and that's important. And then I'm not through everybody. I'm

1704
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: not through. Then he goes to college greens hamhocks are turkey.

1705
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 1: Then he goes to pizza. Then he goes to some

1706
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: smothered pork chops, oh Sun. Then he goes to the

1707
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: dessert section where I fall in love with him for

1708
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: real fruit cobbler, peach pie, banana foster. And then this

1709
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: one I knew he was the real deal. This is

1710
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: one I'm gonna tell everybody. This is what I knew.

1711
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: Sam Sifton was the real deal. Baked banana putting. Oh

1712
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:24,520
Speaker 1: that's a delicious you should make that tonight. Hey, Sam,

1713
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,839
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get you now, I'm gonna send you photos.

1714
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: And you know who you're talking to. This is what

1715
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: I do, my brother, this is what I do. Okay,

1716
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: we are we are friends. And I'm going to promote

1717
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: you because not only because you're you're you're good people,

1718
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: but you got a book that will relax a lot

1719
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: of people and invite them into the kitchen to do

1720
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: something they may have been reluctant to do. All we want,

1721
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: that's all we want. Thank you, thank you. Wow, it

1722
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: just it just and then he has and then he

1723
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: has to broken up in the chapter like Big met

1724
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: the chapter three Rights is chapter five, you know, so

1725
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: he kind of he has fun with it, you know,

1726
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: big pops. So these are these are the titles of

1727
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,839
Speaker 1: the chapters, so they have fun chapters, easy to read, chapters,

1728
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: great beautiful photos that he has laid out throughout the book.

1729
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 1: It's not over, it's not it's not crushed with photos,

1730
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: but it's not photos. Let you know, this is how

1731
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: this may look because some books do that, they have

1732
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: so many photos. You go, Okay, what am I loving

1733
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 1: too much? Too much? Too much? What am I doing?

1734
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: What am I doing? What am I doing? So Sam,

1735
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: what we started in the beginning talking about the book.

1736
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: You've heard me interview you. Now I'm you know, I'm

1737
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: a fan. You know, I'm telling the world that this

1738
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: is one stop shopping book right here. Okay, this is

1739
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: this is it? What What do you want the person

1740
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: who buys this book to walk away from this? I

1741
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,440
Speaker 1: want them to walk away with a sense of confidence

1742
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:49,799
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to make their lives

1743
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: better and make the lives of those they serve better

1744
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: simply by cooking simple food filled with their love and

1745
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: my instruction. Uh. And then they do that enough times,

1746
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: those recipes become theirs, and they become something to pass

1747
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: on to others. And that's how, uh, you know, we

1748
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 1: keep eating fried chicken, that's how we keep making peach five.

1749
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: But we're passing down these recipes from from friend to friend,

1750
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: from generation to generation, and here in the presence of

1751
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: this book, I think we're doing so in UH in

1752
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: a way that intentionally makes lives better. That's what I want,

1753
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: and you're you're delivering it again. UH an exceptional book

1754
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: to read, a fun book to UH cook out of,

1755
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: to bake out of. The recipes are amazingly. Every once

1756
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: in a while, you know, you might get an extended one,

1757
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: but overall, even then extended ones. You know, I enjoyed reading.

1758
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: I realized that I can pull that off because it's

1759
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: such a confidence I would tell you this say, this

1760
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: book is a very confident confidence building book. If you're

1761
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 1: walking into the kitchen for the for you know several

1762
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: times and wanted to do that like barbecue pork real,

1763
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: you need to stop, man, you need to stop. You

1764
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: really need to stop. Sale. Let go some different, dude,

1765
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: I didn't I missed that one. Grill, baby, back reels,

1766
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, teasers, brisket, what not you missing with my country? Texas?

1767
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Bobby qu Bobby cut lega lamb, you know, steaking, guinness, stew,

1768
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: rice and beans, read rice p lost. This is this book.

1769
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: This is the amazing book. Cuban style black beans, beautiful books,

1770
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: saying thank you for coming on my show, my man,

1771
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: thank you very much for having me. Adoption of teams

1772
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: from foster care is a topic not enough people know about,

1773
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: and we're here to change that. I'm April Dinuity, host

1774
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: of the new podcast Navigating Adoption presented by adopt Us Kids.

1775
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: Each episode brings you compelling, real life adoption stories told

1776
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: by the families that lived them, with commentary from experts.

1777
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: Visit adopt us Kids dot org, slash podcast, or subscribe

1778
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: to Navigating Adoption presented by adopt Us Kids, brought to

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01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: you by the U. S Department of Health and Human Services,

1780
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: Administration for Children and Families and the Council. And we're

1781
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 1: live here outside the Perez family home, just waiting for

1782
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,759
Speaker 1: the and there they go, almost on time. This morning.

1783
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: Mom is coming out the front door strong with a

1784
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: double arm kid carry. Looks like dad has the bags.

1785
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 1: Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh but the diaper

1786
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh but

1787
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: mom has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle for

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01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who looks to

1789
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: be about nine or ten has secured herself in the

1790
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: booster seat. Dad zips the bag clothes and they're off,

1791
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: But looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is

1792
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: still on the roof of the car, and there it goes. Oh,

1793
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't

1794
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: sweat the small stuff, just nailed the big stuff, like

1795
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 1: making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right

1796
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t

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Speaker 1: s a dot gov slash the right Seat. Visits dot

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Speaker 1: gov slash the Right Seat. Brought to you by to

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01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: the AD Council. Hi, everyone, Al Roker here as a

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01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 1: guy with his own catchphrase. I appreciate that Smokey's only

1801
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: said only you can prevent wildfires, but I'm filling it

1802
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: because there's a lot more to report, like when they're

1803
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: parched her windy conditions out there. You gotta be extra

1804
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 1: careful with things like burning yard waist. After all, wildfires

1805
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: can start anywhere, even in your neck of the woods.

1806
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Go to Smokey Bear dot com to learn more about

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01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: wildfire prevention. Brought to you by the U. S. Forest Service,

1808
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: your state Forrester and the AD Council. Next Calling is

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01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: Calling from Australia. She recently was featured in The Harold Sun,

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01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: The Sydney Morning, Harold, Domain, Property, The Property Investor Magazine,

1811
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Sport Investor, The Australia newspaper, Money Magazine and many other publications.

1812
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: She's an official advocate for White Ribbon. In this role,

1813
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: she speaks to men nationally the champion change for the

1814
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: prevention of violence against women and children. Her overall mission

1815
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: is to financial literacy to every woman in Australia and

1816
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,839
Speaker 1: they hope that they will step into their rifle birthright

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01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 1: of abundance and economic empowerment. Please welcome to Money Making

1818
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Conversations from Australia. Marry in May. Good morning. Well, it's

1819
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: afternoon where we're and so and I'm feeling really good

1820
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: about the opportunities that we're having on the air right now,

1821
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: and so tell us about Okay, first of all, I'll

1822
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 1: calling Australia. The big news in Australia have been the

1823
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: fires in Australia right there. Is it dominated the news

1824
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: to my understanding that they're they're starting to calm down.

1825
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: Correct correct, So, um we I'm in Melbourne, Australia in

1826
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: the State of Victoria and for the first time ever

1827
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: we were declared a state of emergency that was pushed

1828
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: through parliament and government. Um. Yeah, it's dominated the news

1829
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: and it's affected as you read, our wildlife and not

1830
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: only people. Um, but we had unexpected rain helped the

1831
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: situation and things have definitely um decreased in terms of

1832
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 1: the spread of fire. So it's great news. Well, you know,

1833
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: it's really uh it's sad that that can dominate news

1834
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 1: because you don't want it to dominate the movie because

1835
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: basically when nature gets abused in that manner, we uh

1836
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: we all we find out how helpless we are. Okay, Uh,

1837
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: there's no magic switches you can drop and it stops

1838
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: and so but the helpless part about it is the

1839
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: is the devastation to the wildlife. You know that that

1840
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: has been that has been the I mean, uh, just

1841
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: just hunger. While animals coming up because they're hungry. You know,

1842
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: they were normally not come to two civilians because they thirsty,

1843
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 1: they need some form of nourishment and when they try

1844
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: to uh take care of when they die anyway, So

1845
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: when when you read about this that's going on, and

1846
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm reading about it big because It's part of being

1847
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur because it effects business has fixed tourism is

1848
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: faxed so many ways. It fixed housing effects of our

1849
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: people look at things because they redirect their funds someplace else,

1850
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: and it can almost halt an economic growth process in

1851
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: a country and especially in a city. So where are

1852
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: you guys at right now? Is financial from an economic

1853
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: standpoint in Melbourne in Australia, Well, Melbourne is a really

1854
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: robust you know where we're a major city just like

1855
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Sydney Australia. Um. But we you know, we always have

1856
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: this rivalry going on with Sydney. Things that we're better, um.

1857
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: And Melbourne is forecast to be the biggest and the

1858
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: strongest city over the course of the next decade. Our

1859
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 1: economy is robust and strong. But of course these regional

1860
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: areas that were now referring to where we had an

1861
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 1: excessive sixteen fires, um. There they're the local regional economy,

1862
01:38:55,720 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: so they rely heavily on tourism, spend to stay afloat um.

1863
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: But as far as the city of Melbourne Australia goes,

1864
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: where a robot strong, dynamic economy. Cool. Now, your company,

1865
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: let's go personally start talking about you because I wanted

1866
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: to bring your brand awareness. But I would have been

1867
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: remissed to speak to somebody from Australia and not get

1868
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 1: an update. You know, I know them in the first time.

1869
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,560
Speaker 1: But Shane, I you know your hat are on the phone.

1870
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: You can say nothing like that. And so we're spoking

1871
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 1: about that. Now, let's talk about you because of effects

1872
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are going on, your passion,

1873
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: your your mission statements. Now the name of your company.

1874
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: The first name is your mother's name, and your lad

1875
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: the last also the last name of your father. Explain,

1876
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 1: give us your name of the company. I mean, why

1877
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: did you do that? So the company name is called

1878
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: Failure Stanley Group. And essentially, when I was in my

1879
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: early twenties and starting my business career, unexpectedly I lost

1880
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: both of my parents in my early twenties, and when

1881
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,959
Speaker 1: I created this business model, I wanted it to embody

1882
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: the spirit of both my mother and father because I

1883
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: intend to leave a very big legacy in terms of

1884
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: bringing financial literacy to all women and all girls across Australia.

1885
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: So when we were sitting down and deciding on a name,

1886
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 1: and the marketing people had all the ideas or great ideas. UM.

1887
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: I just knew that Celia Stammy was what UM I

1888
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: wanted to embody and that was the qualities and the

1889
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: values and the characteristics of both my parents and doing

1890
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: this work that means it's a passion. So I also

1891
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: read that you're you're champion for a signing spotlight on

1892
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: the homelessness in ast Yes, I am UM. We have

1893
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: not like any other UM western country around the world,

1894
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: a homeless epidemic here in Australia and in fact, women

1895
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:55,759
Speaker 1: over the age of fifty five are our fastest growing

1896
01:40:55,800 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: demographic of homelessness in this country. UM. Last year ATE,

1897
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: last year, I was officially appointed as an ambassador for

1898
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 1: the international organization St. Vincent De Paul's Society UM. And

1899
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 1: every year we have what's called a CEO sleep Out

1900
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 1: where the heads of major corporations sleep out on the

1901
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: street to raise money for homelessness UM and we raise

1902
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 1: substantial money, like in the tens of means and so UM.

1903
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: For the last three years I've done that CEO sleep

1904
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: out and raise money for homelessness and then last year

1905
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: the organization offered me a position as an official ambassador UM.

1906
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,520
Speaker 1: And some of the work that I do directly relates

1907
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: to trying to prevent women over fifty becoming homeless. Now

1908
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: when is that done? Do you as it just wrapped?

1909
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: The third the Witch sleep out for the CEOs, has

1910
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: that wrapped? Has it? What? Sorry? Have you completed it

1911
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: already or is it coming up? So what happens is yes,

1912
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: So we do it every year and in the middle

1913
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: of winter. They picked the absolute coldest, wettest day and

1914
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: the day that we're to sleep out, So that's coming

1915
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: up in um I think June or July, so a

1916
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: little while to go and we and we do it

1917
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of winter to get appreciation of what

1918
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: it must be like for somebody to be displaced and homeless,

1919
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 1: living on the street in those conditions. So I will

1920
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 1: tell you this mismays our relationship is not a one

1921
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: off and so I want to be a part of

1922
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 1: that as far as information, so I can promote it

1923
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 1: on my social media and making it make it more

1924
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: of a the Niner states aware of it. It becomes

1925
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: an international event because it sounds pretty amazing. It sounds

1926
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: like something we should be doing over here. We do

1927
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 1: it in every state across Australia. So CEOs from all

1928
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: the major organizations come together for one night in every

1929
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: state across Australia and we all do the sleep out

1930
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 1: individually in each state. I think this year it's going

1931
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: to be even more important for us because we have

1932
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: the devastation of the fires um which is which has

1933
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: displaced so many people, like so many people have you

1934
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: slee lost their homes um. So this year our efforts

1935
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: are going to be even stronger and the event is

1936
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,839
Speaker 1: going to be even more important for us. Well. Again,

1937
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: everything that you're doing is derived through your passion. What

1938
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 1: do Because you say you lost your parents at an

1939
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: early age, what did they? Was the passion built through

1940
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: your relationship with your parents or after they left your

1941
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 1: life you fouled your passion. No, I think at a

1942
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: very early age I always knew that I had a

1943
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 1: calling to be in service and to help others, and

1944
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: that was innate in me as a child. I remember

1945
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 1: like taking personal items from my parents home and giving

1946
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: them away to people who I thought were poorer than us,

1947
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 1: and my parents saying like, you know, what what are

1948
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: you doing? I don't know. I thought I thought they

1949
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 1: needed the ham more than we did, or I thought

1950
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: they needed the clothing more than we did, so it

1951
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: was always innate in me. UM. When my parents passed

1952
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 1: away in my early twenties, obviously I had to you know,

1953
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: I was literally offriend and I had to economically be

1954
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 1: able to survive and thrive and UM. And that led

1955
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 1: me into a really tenacious work ethic of understanding that

1956
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm on my own and I've really got to work

1957
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 1: to make it here. And then, of course vehicle has

1958
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: become the vehicle for me to UM really have such

1959
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: great success in the work that I do and service,

1960
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:24,839
Speaker 1: serving and helping others UM. And I think success breaks success,

1961
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 1: like the more work that I do and the more

1962
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,680
Speaker 1: women that I serve and the more people that I help, UM,

1963
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: the more opportunities seem to appear to be able to

1964
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: do this work. I as you this because you know,

1965
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: I SA listen to. One of the qualities I try

1966
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: to break to my show is just we're just in conversation,

1967
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: and in conversation you tend to sit back and listen

1968
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: to your guests. And when I listen to you, you know,

1969
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 1: it's just it just seems like you give so much

1970
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: of your time. Do you have time for yourself? If

1971
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 1: anybody ever asked you that question, what do you what

1972
01:44:56,439 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: do you give back to you? Missmays, Yeah, I do.

1973
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: I actually live a really amazing life by design. I

1974
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: have organized my work in a way that I'm able

1975
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: to live a really great quality of life. I have

1976
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 1: a twelve year old son, Somerset is sitting beside me

1977
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: right now, and after we finished this interview, were about

1978
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: to go on to a construction site and show a

1979
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 1: woman of property. UM. I do live in service, but

1980
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I found a way to you know, like people have

1981
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: this distinction, Ah, this is my work and then separate

1982
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: this is my life. UM. I have that distinction too,

1983
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 1: but I found a way to make the two marry together.

1984
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: And when I spend time with my clients, it's just

1985
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: as pleasant as spending time with people in my personal life.

1986
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 1: But I do live a life by design, and I

1987
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,759
Speaker 1: believe in self care and I try to model self

1988
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 1: care for my son. I mean, obviously, having parents who

1989
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: both passed away at fifty nine is incentive for me

1990
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 1: to really have a high level of self care. UM.

1991
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: So yes, I do. I have. UM, I have lots

1992
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: of great quality personal time, particularly with my son. UM.

1993
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 1: But I'm very dedicated to the work because there's just

1994
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: so much work to be done, and during Australia Um

1995
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: of Financial Literacy for Women, because people they say that

1996
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: about me. So it's not nothing, you know that. I

1997
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: just throwing it back at you because I love what

1998
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: I do. I love that. You know people what time

1999
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: you go to bed, said you look at by midnight?

2000
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 1: What time you get up at four o'clock? God, what

2001
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: do you what do you do? You're gonna worry, you know,

2002
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: because I love what I do. In fact, I'll tell

2003
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: people all time, if I could figure out a way

2004
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 1: not to go to sleep, I'll be happy. That means

2005
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: I'll just be constantly just doing things that I love

2006
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: to do. But unfortunately I have stayed up at the

2007
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: most I think about fifty four hours in a row,

2008
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 1: and I was vibrating. I was literally just shaky and

2009
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 1: finding My wife said, you just stop, you need to stop, okay.

2010
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 1: And I say that because of the fact that if

2011
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 1: you're passionate about something, if you're driven by something other,

2012
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: you might consider it work if you can. If it's

2013
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: a passion, it's considered something that you've been blessed to

2014
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: deliver to somebody. If something to make somebody's life better.

2015
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 1: And that seems like you said, that's your calling, that's

2016
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 1: you've been called to do this. Just it's almost like

2017
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,600
Speaker 1: a minister being called to the altar to preach, but

2018
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: you're called to the altar to make change, to to

2019
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 1: create a more positive life because you have a positive life,

2020
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: and that's called helping someone they have a better life

2021
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: than your than you. I see you understood that at

2022
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,640
Speaker 1: the very early age. I didn't understand that until I

2023
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: got older, that you know that I could, I could

2024
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: share that I could that I could actually help you.

2025
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 1: For some reason in your brain clicked that you know something.

2026
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: I don't really need this, but you've probably needed more.

2027
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: So here and your parents are looking like, hey, you

2028
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: gotta watch her block everything down. She's gonna give She's

2029
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 1: gonna give everything away, your first rade, my mother's nightgown,

2030
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: hand for the family, clothing, out food all the time.

2031
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I would just get out stuff and say, actually, I

2032
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 1: would tell them that my parents told me to give

2033
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: it to them, which wasn't accurate at the time. I

2034
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: love it. If you're talking with Mary and May's from Australia.

2035
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,480
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more money making Conversations fantastic.

2036
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 1: She's a she's a friend that I has discovered on

2037
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: LinkedIn and she's a friend for life. She says, no,

2038
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 1: she don't know she got shot in her life. I

2039
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 1: might show up on her doorstep, but I might be

2040
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 1: at the CEO sleep Out, the one to sleep out

2041
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: in Julie. You know me. I'm crazy like that. We'll

2042
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: be right back with more from Rashan McDonald and Money

2043
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:40,839
Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Don't touch that dog. Money Making Conversations continues

2044
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:45,240
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2045
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2046
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2047
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,719
Speaker 1: and put some plans into action. Hi, this is Rashan

2048
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: McDonald and you're listening to Money Making Conversations. My guess

2049
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 1: is a lab on the phone. It's in the morning.

2050
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: Where she's at uh in Australia, Malbourne, Australia. You know

2051
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 1: I have that I have to change my after articulating

2052
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: in a different way where you say Australia, because the

2053
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 1: law knows if I was in Houston, Techia, I said Australia.

2054
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 1: I just mess it all up. But Mary and May

2055
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: she's on the phone. And one of the things that

2056
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 1: drew my created relationship that I have with her, it

2057
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 1: was through linked there was that her passion, especially a

2058
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 1: passion for the education of women through financial literacy. And

2059
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,759
Speaker 1: one of the things that you read I actually clipped

2060
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: out of one of her posts and just paste it

2061
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: over there when she wrote about, in my direct experience,

2062
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 1: more than natyve percent of women I encounter in my

2063
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: work do not have a current wheel. H yeah, yeah, absolutely,

2064
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,679
Speaker 1: So I'll just set the thame for you guys over

2065
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:49,799
Speaker 1: there in terms of what is the climate the economic

2066
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: climate here in Australia. So you know, we have the

2067
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 1: gender paga that's real in Australia for women. UM, we

2068
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: also have UM, we don't have financial literacy is hig

2069
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: of our national academic framework in Australia. So what I

2070
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: mean by that is financial literacy is not taught in

2071
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 1: primary schools or high schools or college over here. So

2072
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: as a result of that, we have successful women, you

2073
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: know who work and have professional careers um, and earn money,

2074
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily have financial literacy UM. And so

2075
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: I run live events across the country. In Melbourne and

2076
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 1: Sydney and up North. Um. And every time I run

2077
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 1: an event, one of the questions I ask is for

2078
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: all the women in the room to raise their hands

2079
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 1: to see if they've got a simple basic thing like

2080
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:39,839
Speaker 1: a willing place. Um. And those stats are pretty accurate, accurate.

2081
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: I always have a room full of raised hands, um,

2082
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: with all of these women who just don't even have

2083
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: a basic will in place. Now because of that, what

2084
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 1: does that say about the education? Is it needed? Because

2085
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not going to speak in

2086
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 1: a like I know at all formats, so I kind

2087
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: of speak yeah, yeah, sure, So well, I think this

2088
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 1: is how I came to do this work. So I

2089
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 1: used to work in financial services in a corporate capacity,

2090
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: in an executive level capacity, and I saw in our

2091
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 1: industry in Australia and the financial services industry, we had

2092
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: all of these financial planners. But we also, simultaneously we

2093
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 1: also had statistics that said women are the fifty five

2094
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: of the fastest growing demographic of homelessness and nobody, most

2095
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 1: women don't have financial literacy, regardless of whether they have

2096
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: a college degree or not. Um. So yes, it's needed.

2097
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean it should be in our primary schools. It

2098
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:42,480
Speaker 1: should be in our secondary schools because it's as fundamental

2099
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 1: and as basic as home economics like cooking. Um, but

2100
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have it as a mandatory subject

2101
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: in our education system. And so five years ago I

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01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 1: left the corporate world on a wing and a prayer

2103
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: and I said to all my colleagues, I'm going to

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01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: start a company based on financial literacy. And they said,

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01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: you're crazy, mad, Um, there's no such thing as running

2106
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: a company for financial literacy. You're going to be a

2107
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: committing commercial. Um, you know, suicide. You can't do this.

2108
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 1: And five years later, Um, we've been successfully teaching women

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01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:21,719
Speaker 1: around Australia financial literacy and these are professional, normal, everyday

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01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: women like me. Right, Well, you know you left something

2111
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: that's made sense to me. I left IBM to go

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01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: be a comedian. So you know, it was a lot

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01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,680
Speaker 1: of people looked at me a little bit more skeptical.

2114
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: You know, at least you had a plan, at least

2115
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 1: at least at least the word financials in your departure title.

2116
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 1: My title was a comedian. Yeah, but but it's just

2117
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,839
Speaker 1: as crazy if you think about it, because my colleagues

2118
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 1: are like, so you're gonna bring adults into a room,

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01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: into a boardroom, into a boardroom, and then you're gonna

2120
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: try and tell adults they need to learn financial literacy,

2121
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: and you want people to come voluntarily and pay for

2122
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: these And I was like, Yea, that's what I'm gonna do.

2123
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. I would let them know

2124
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 1: they are stupid, and I'm actually make them pay for it.

2125
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: That's what that's what That's what you did. And you're

2126
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, successful at it. You know you you almost

2127
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,520
Speaker 1: have me about the red and body ticket for Australia

2128
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 1: for the month of June. That's how good you are.

2129
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 1: You have a skill. Mismays that that that causes people

2130
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: to look at you and go where how much when listen?

2131
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 1: Which is really gifted and you should never walk away

2132
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 1: from that skill because it's a blessing. And the fact

2133
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: that you're you're turning that skill into trying to educate

2134
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 1: women who have a gender pay gap issue, which you

2135
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: can have wheels, you should invest in property. Let's talk

2136
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 1: about that because because it's not just in Australia, it's

2137
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: it's it's in the nine States. Okay, same issue. It's

2138
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 1: an epidemic yeah, it's a social epidemic across the western world.

2139
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a few countries who have found solutions.

2140
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 1: But right now as we speak, I'm outside a construction

2141
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: site and I'm meeting a client in about half an hour,

2142
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: and just to share her story, she's in her late

2143
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 1: forties and she doesn't have enough money to retire. You know,

2144
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 1: we say here in Australia, if you want to live

2145
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 1: off you know, fifty thousand Australian dollars a year, you

2146
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: need about a million dollars invested in super Or if

2147
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: you want to live off a hundred thousand a year,

2148
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 1: you need about two million dollars invested in superannuation UM.

2149
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 1: This woman doesn't have that. She's forty nine years old,

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01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 1: and so we're just about after this interview, we're going

2151
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: to go onto a construction site and we're going to

2152
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: view a property that she will potentially invest in UM

2153
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 1: for the long term, so that when she is sixty

2154
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: years of age UM she will have more money than

2155
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: what she is presently on track to have just in

2156
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 1: her superannuation alone. In Australia, basically our employers are mandated

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01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 1: to pay nine percent of your to little salary into

2158
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: a super retirement funds. But you can do that. You

2159
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: can do the math. And this didn't start until quite

2160
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 1: late for a lot of women. You can do the math.

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01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 1: Nine percent of an average shallery in Australia over their

2162
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: working life is not going to be sufficient money to retire.

2163
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: So UM, So I have started a campaign here in Australia.

2164
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: We're just launching it this year. It's my new project. UM.

2165
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 1: It's called Property for Women and the concept behind it

2166
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: is that every single woman, regardless of her social background,

2167
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 1: demographic status, religion, color, earning capacity, every single woman should

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01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: own one piece of real estate, one property in her

2169
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 1: own name. UM. And that's a new project that we're

2170
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 1: launching this year. So I'm really excited UM. And their

2171
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: spirit behind that is that to have one piece of

2172
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 1: real estate in your own name in Australia means that

2173
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 1: you can borrow money against it. Um, you'll always have

2174
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: a roof over your head, you can rent it out

2175
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: to earn an income and it really is that preventative

2176
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: tool to poverty and homelessness and even financial abuse, which

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01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: has become a big thing in recent years here in Australia. Absolutely, now, okay,

2178
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: I hear your tone, I hear your passion. Do you

2179
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 1: have the naysayers out there, the male naysayers, you know

2180
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 1: they call your rebel rouser that trying to well, Yes,

2181
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 1: for five years, really my whole industry because financial out

2182
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to smart enough don women trying to smart

2183
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: en AM out. Well, it's not really conducive to UM.

2184
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: It's not really conducive for financial planners for me to

2185
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: be educating women on financial matters. So yes, I mean

2186
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: for five years, I've not really been embraced by my

2187
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 1: original industry UM. But last year I was very lucky

2188
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 1: that kind of shifted. IM was the lucky recipient of UM,

2189
01:56:56,720 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: a national, prestigious, national award in my industry, and for

2190
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 1: the first time in five years, my work was really

2191
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 1: and the legacy that I'm trying to create was really

2192
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 1: recognized UM. But I think my client's experienced it more

2193
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: because really interesting, my clients tell me that when they

2194
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: first meet me and they have low financial literacy, they

2195
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: don't have much confidence, and then all of a sudden,

2196
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, within six months, they're investing in property and

2197
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: they're saving money and they're buying shares. It's the people

2198
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 1: around them, the men at work, the people in their

2199
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: life saying what are you doing? And they're saying, well,

2200
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, I met this woman and I'm doing this,

2201
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: and and the skepticism kicks in and you know you

2202
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: should be careful and you know you don't know what

2203
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: kind of investments you're putting her into. And um so

2204
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, And I think we fear anything we don't

2205
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 1: really understand. But I also think in this country is

2206
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 1: there's a conditioning and a comfort. So I'll give you

2207
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 1: an example. Maybe shocking, but it's true. In Australia, the

2208
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 1: gender pay gap is so real that in the financial

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01:57:57,400 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 1: services sector we have the biggest gender pay caps across

2210
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 1: all professions. So for example, if I was still working

2211
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: in corporate I would be doing the same job as

2212
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: a man, but I would earn twenty five percent less

2213
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: than what he would. Sounds very familiar over here, Okay, okay,

2214
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 1: just know that you're not saying anything new. In the

2215
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: United States, you know, my my executive dous is she's

2216
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: sitting over there next to me going, yes, that's that's

2217
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 1: very very true, very true. So we say property is

2218
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: the great equalizer to that because has no discrimination. You know,

2219
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 1: if we can get women investing in property, then we

2220
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 1: can close the gender pay gaps. Well, you know the

2221
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 1: thing about it is that alright, first of all, I'm

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01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 1: enjoying this interview and thank you again for calling me

2223
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: from Australia early in the morning. Was comfortable in the

2224
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,040
Speaker 1: afternoon over here. Just to just to let people know

2225
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:51,919
Speaker 1: that the information you're giving to me is very relatable

2226
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: to the listeners in the United States or any other

2227
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 1: country because because women are regulated to a secondary citizens

2228
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 1: and so many different ways, and there's always been the case,

2229
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 1: and so to change is happening does not happening rapidly enough,

2230
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 1: as as in racial situations as well. But but one

2231
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 1: something I wanted to bring you on the phone to

2232
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: talk about what are the key factors to getting unstucked

2233
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 1: and in your eyes, getting unstuck and building wealth. M absolutely, so.

2234
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: I think the first thing is, I mean the work

2235
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 1: that we always do with women, which is a little

2236
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: bit abstract because it doesn't happen in the financial services

2237
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: UM industry here is we look at their mindset, and

2238
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 1: we look at their subconscious beliefs, and we look at

2239
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: their story and so we actually work with them on

2240
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: that level. What is the story that you hold about yourself,

2241
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 1: about your conditioning, from your past, from the family you

2242
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 1: came from, from the hood that you grew up in.

2243
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 1: What is the story that you have that tells you

2244
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 1: what is possible for your life and what is not possible.

2245
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 1: We work at that level first, So it's really about

2246
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 1: behavioral science and mindset. So I think that's the first

2247
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 1: thing to really try, and your beliefs and the story

2248
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 1: that you're telling yourself about what's possible. I think my

2249
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 1: life is an example of you know, I just grew

2250
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 1: up in a normal suburb and my parents unfortunately passed early,

2251
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 1: and I was on my own. But I'm self made

2252
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 1: and I'm financially independent and I'm successful. And I always

2253
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: say to women, I didn't have many of the opportunities

2254
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 1: UM that they did. I didn't have the opportunity to

2255
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 1: finish my university degree in law. UM. I didn't have

2256
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 1: the opportunity to have the financial support of my parents

2257
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:35,120
Speaker 1: for those additional years so I could study UM. But

2258
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,400
Speaker 1: I was able to do it and UM. So I

2259
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:40,240
Speaker 1: think the first step number one is you have to

2260
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 1: look at your belief system and your subconscious beliefs, because

2261
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 1: that really is driving all of your behavior. You know,

2262
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: nine percent of all decisions we make and made in

2263
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: the subconscious spring without us even realizing. The second thing

2264
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:56,600
Speaker 1: I say is you have to have basic financial literacy.

2265
02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 1: This whole idea, and I don't know if it's a

2266
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 1: in they're like in America, like there is here, but

2267
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 1: this whole idea of going to some guru who tells you, listen,

2268
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm a guru and you don't really understand anything about

2269
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 1: money and you should just blindly trust me and I'll

2270
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 1: invest your money and it will be okay. Um, what

2271
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: I say is that's actually not okay. And so the

2272
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: second thing you need is financial literacy because as human beings,

2273
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:26,920
Speaker 1: we never do or we fear something we don't understand

2274
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,160
Speaker 1: when we have more information, and when we understand something,

2275
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 1: then we develop confidence to do it. And the critical thing,

2276
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:37,800
Speaker 1: like if I could give anyone listening a message, the

2277
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 1: message would be that there is no amount you know,

2278
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 1: we're all wired for hard work. I certainly was. I mean,

2279
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 1: I came from a family who had amazing work ethics.

2280
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 1: We're wired. We're wired, and we're told as children and

2281
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 1: our education system and throughout our lives that we need

2282
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 1: to be good people, and that we need to work

2283
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 1: really hard, and if we work really hard, then we

2284
02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 1: can make money. UM. And what I say to people

2285
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 1: is that is maybe true in part that no amount

2286
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 1: of hard work and no amount of salary income is

2287
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 1: going to make you financially independent or wealthy. It's buying

2288
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 1: assets that go up in value over time. UM is

2289
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,080
Speaker 1: the only way to build wealth. And you can read

2290
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 1: any book. I mean, you've got some great wealth mentors

2291
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 1: over there have published amazing books. The only way for

2292
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 1: anybody to get ahead is to buy assets that go

2293
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 1: up in value over the course of their working life

2294
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: UM as a means to financial independence and to building wealth.

2295
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 1: So I would say they're the three critical points. And

2296
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 1: the first point in coming unstuck is really sitting down

2297
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:44,879
Speaker 1: and getting real about the story that you're telling yourself

2298
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 1: about what's possible for your life. Awesome, Mary May's thank

2299
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:51,400
Speaker 1: you again for taking the time. UM. I have a

2300
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 1: book coming out in one in January. One of the

2301
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 1: locations I want to come ills to Melbourne, so you

2302
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 1: will see me at May see me early. I might

2303
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 1: come to the CEO. There is an open invitation for

2304
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 1: you here. Yeah, I know if I keep talking to

2305
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna give me to come to I will provide

2306
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 1: the sleeping bag, sleeping bag for you and the pillow

2307
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:18,840
Speaker 1: for you, and you can spend the night. You can

2308
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 1: spend the night with some of Melvine's greatest CEOs, with

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