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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's May Day, May Day, May Day. It's May one,

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Speaker 3: uh here in twenty twenty three, and it's time to

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Speaker 3: start your Monday with Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Everyone, welcome to the show. I am merely one half

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Speaker 3: of your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 3: join you from the capital of Asatasunitos right here in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day in your nation's capital, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Oh the sun is out and shining. It's phenomenal. But

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Speaker 3: there's a man to uh well, my left, your right

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Speaker 3: of the screen goes by many names. He's wearing the

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Speaker 3: world's worst shirt and hat combo ever for a dad,

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Speaker 3: and that's saying something.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: You know, Luke, I don't. I don't run from my dadhood,

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Speaker 2: all right, I live it, I wear it proudly.

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Speaker 2: These sweatpants have been on all week, Luke, and you

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Speaker 2: can't tell me any different. Okay, that's how I live.

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Speaker 2: But finally, you know, happy to be home. We're pumping

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: What a what a weird combat weekend that I had

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Speaker 2: nothing but fun watching and covering, Luke, so excited to

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Speaker 2: anybody else. Right, but you know what we can do

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Speaker 2: better than anybody else? Recap Monday morning after BKFC and

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Speaker 2: Mike Perry just stole stole the combat sports world. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's what we live for. This is our life, this

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Speaker 3: Okay, did you do anything interesting over the weekend besides

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Speaker 2: No? No, this was a rainy Connecticut weekend, Luke, just

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Speaker 2: never illing, just uh yeah. Recovery, Luke, because I was

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Speaker 2: on the road for a long ass time. Not that

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Speaker 1: No, no, you are on the road a little bit

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Speaker 3: The month of May, and I'm like, yeah, thank god,

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Speaker 3: Yesterday, yesterday we had to record some extra stuff for

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Speaker 3: UFC two eighty eight, which you'll see later in the week.

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Speaker 3: One of remind folks about that YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 3: Morning Combat, not just for today's show, but for all

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Speaker 3: the assets we have coming out.

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Speaker 1: We have calls to me coming up.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about resume review, Luke, is that what you're

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Speaker 3: Service Diaries with Rashad Evans, which again I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: and wish RJ. What was his real last name?

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, got it all right, good old

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Speaker 2: the top ten debut albums in rock history, Luke, I

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Speaker 3: My dad has looked at me before and goes, why

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Speaker 3: And it's like, Dad, this is the most uncool ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're forgetting ever Dad, ever, Ever, do you think

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Speaker 2: he has any vinyl or had it? Luke is he was?

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Speaker 2: He a big Yanni guy.

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Speaker 1: He has vine. I swear to god he has vine.

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Speaker 3: His vinyl of like all the classical composers that you

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Speaker 3: the last thing. When we remind folks showtime dot com,

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Speaker 2: It's Hall of Fame Weekend. I believe it's June ninth

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Speaker 1: Guys, I guess we just have to admit it. You

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Speaker 3: Entirely up to you, but it does seem like BKFC

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Speaker 3: You Dong and how wrong BC and I were about him.

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Speaker 3: We have plenty of crow to eat, but BC, we

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight years old, your teeth are breaking, you don't

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Speaker 2: better things to do right now than pay for this

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Speaker 2: do tell stories and set up matchups perfectly. Luke on

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Speaker 2: what planet? Did Luke rock Hold and Mike Perry have

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Speaker 3: It's a confluence of things. I mean to answer the

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Speaker 3: I absolutely think that he is. I think he has

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Speaker 3: But then they had this weird moment where he was

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Speaker 1: You know what do you recall it? Like?

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Speaker 3: They knew this was going to generate revenue, They knew

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Speaker 2: And they do. I mean, look, we all had to

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Speaker 2: this card and hopefully he doesn't fight again. But the

437
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,480
Speaker 2: whole idea that like they can attract some people who

438
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 2: still have gas in the tank, still want to compete

439
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440
Speaker 2: in like a main event form and get the fun

440
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 2: rush again. But also, especially if you're coming from the UFC,

441
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,440
Speaker 2: want to get paid, in most cases more than you've

442
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 2: ever made in either your biggest fighter in some cases

443
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 2: like combined. Like really, this has a chance for people

444
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,399
Speaker 2: that you may have topped out at one hundred thousand,

445
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 2: yet we know their name or they fought in a

446
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,640
Speaker 2: title fight once they can go there and probably make

447
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 2: like five six hundred thousand if against the right opponent,

448
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 2: if promoted right, BKFC is filling that hole. My only

449
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,680
Speaker 2: issue with that in terms of their long term hope

450
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 2: of staying around is I don't think the bare knuckle

451
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,919
Speaker 2: thing is sustainable. I don't think there's gonna be enough

452
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 2: of a market that actually wants to see it. I'd

453
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 2: like if there was some BKFC pivot to the idea

454
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 2: of I mean, it's weird to call yourself bare knuckle

455
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 2: and then to have the potential of glove fights is

456
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: no different than de z own launching and saying they're

457
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 2: gonna kill pay per view and now we're back into

458
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: pay per views. Like, I get what that message says,

459
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 2: but if they don't build it, meaning giving fighters a

460
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 2: chance to kind of choose one or the other but

461
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 2: still get a great platform get paid. BKFC does not

462
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 2: look like they're trying to trap people into contracts, right.

463
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 2: They want to just make fun of events. They could

464
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 2: fill a hole right now, like maybe it's ZUFA. Maybe

465
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 2: that hole never gets filled with a promotion or organization

466
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 2: who's aiming at that. But while there is a market

467
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 2: for crossover celebrity influencer fights, I think there's a market

468
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 2: for competitive fights between faded old names. It's like a

469
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 2: senior league the one Vitor Belfort's wanted forever. They got

470
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 2: that right now in BKFC. So what can they do.

471
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: They got to keep taking advantage of what they can

472
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 2: pay people compared to what they made in the past,

473
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: and try to keep getting every hot free agent that's

474
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: coming out. Because you got Connor McGregor in your ring

475
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 2: hyping up your brand, that's telling you that you just,

476
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: either accidentally or on purpose, just took a chunk of

477
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: that market share. It may not mean monster things financial

478
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: long term, but it's like, what can you do with that? Luke?

479
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: If you're David Feldman in company, what can you do

480
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 2: with Saturday Night? Because nobody expected that Connor and Mike

481
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: Perry would be jawing and going nose to know nobody.

482
00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 3: Nobody well David Philmon I interviewed him for I would

483
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: say fairly regularly when I had my serious XM show,

484
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: and I always found him to be a much more

485
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 3: adept at promoter than he got credit. I mean, there's

486
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: a couple of problems. Though, Here's here's what I'm thinking

487
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: about for bkfc's future. They're very good, Like this past

488
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 3: weekend was a great reminder. Like you know, when we

489
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: talk about people's roster, we almost think of long term figures.

490
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 3: I don't mean it in that sense, but what I'm

491
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: saying is, who do they have under contract right now?

492
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 3: Do they have guys that can make interesting fights with they?

493
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 3: Do they do? I just think the problem is one

494
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're making any money. I know

495
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: they can generate attention. I know that they won the weekend.

496
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 3: I know that they are delivering, whether you like it

497
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 3: or not, a different, reasonably compelling product in terms of

498
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: as what I mentioned before, you're getting these o shit moments,

499
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: these surprising unexpected results relative to MMA. But I don't

500
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: know if they're making any money exactly, and their pay

501
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: their payroll calls appear to be substantial. Now there's a

502
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: question of like feast or famine, because you've got guys

503
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: like Luke rock Old and Mike Perr Hume I make

504
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 3: a lot, and then you got guys at the bottom

505
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: of the car that probably aren't making very much. I

506
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: wonder about that. I also wonder about related to that,

507
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: like regulation. Can they get to other places besides Florida?

508
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: Here they were in Denver, which is better, but you

509
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: know there's a lot of Florida shows, a lot of

510
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 3: Mississippi shows. These are not strong commissions. I remember a

511
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: guy died on their roster doing this, and so better

512
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: commission oversight is going to be important if they really

513
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: want to scale this product. But here's the thing, you know,

514
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: and I'm so glad you brought it up, you see,

515
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: because here is the question, are people actually interested in

516
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: bare knuckle boxing for what it is? Or are we

517
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: seeing yet more evidence that what people are really interested

518
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: in is some kind of old guy outside the UFC

519
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: fights And my period doesn't fall neatly into that category,

520
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. The Mendez and the

521
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: Alvarez and Luke Ruckols certainly do, and it's like they're

522
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 3: just watching it because this bare knuckle moment in time

523
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: is the best way to get some of that in

524
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: a different way. It's not actually a love and growth

525
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 3: of bare knuckle boxing. It's just bare knuckle boxing is

526
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: taking that role of let's have old guy fights, and

527
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 3: so attention has turned that way I don't know the

528
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: answer to that.

529
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have one. In fact, I do not,

530
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: But I mean to say, these.

531
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: Are two problems that I've three really that I think

532
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: stand out in terms of what their future is up against.

533
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: That's why I think they have to look hard at

534
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: what their future is and what their brand is and

535
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: and like, you know, remember Triller had some crazy moments.

536
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: But I thought the things that Triller did right was

537
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: exactly what BKFC is doing, matching kind of boxers against

538
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: Miss Mix's martial artists or some combination of that in

539
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: like these microwave fantasy matchups. That's something BKFC has to

540
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: continue to capitalize on. But it is interesting to debate

541
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: the long term love or shelf life of the actual

542
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: sport itself bare knuckle. I'm taking the stance in opinion

543
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: that if they like because look, Luke roculled up, we'll

544
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: play the video in a second. But Luke Rock will

545
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: put out a video the next day. And one thing

546
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: he said at the end was this doesn't mean I'm retiring.

547
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: I'll be back. You know. I still want to fight,

548
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 2: maybe just with gloves on is. I don't think it's

549
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: going to be for everybody. The bare knuckle part, the

550
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: part they can get, you know, gashed across your face

551
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: and two punches and if it goes, you know, really

552
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: wrong for you. The bare knuckle thing does afford the

553
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: sport though, the ability to mix different experience levels and

554
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 2: backgrounds and still have a wild fight. It gives you

555
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: that school yard element where it's like, man, that guy

556
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: might be actually stronger or better than that guy, but

557
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: whoever lands first sometimes or whoever you know, comes out

558
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: and sets a big statement and does something gnarly. Fights

559
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: can turn crazy like that. It's why we fell in

560
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: love with the original UFC and the no rules into

561
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: just two guys running into each other. But it's interesting, like,

562
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: how many fighters are gonna want to keep are really

563
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: gonna want to do that? Is there a pivot here

564
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: where they would want to or they could open up?

565
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe if you started making competitive boxing matches,

566
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: it not only would go against what the brand and

567
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: this sport is supposed to be about, but maybe that's

568
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, not as compelling as

569
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: a bare knuckle fight between two guys, you know, because

570
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: one thing that was really cool beyond the luke rock

571
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: Hole Perry fight was the Mendes Alvarez fight. Those are

572
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: two guys that were championship level in two separate divisions

573
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: that were never rumored or whispered to fight each other,

574
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: but when it got announced, you were like, oh yeah, dude.

575
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Knowing their personalities, their fighting styles, like that's cool, that's it,

576
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: you know, and seeing McGregor literally ringside, living and dying

577
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: with every punch of two guys he'd beat in high

578
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: level moments, it's like weird fantasy match making, like video

579
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: game match making. So maybe it is the bare knuckle

580
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: element that allows you that where those guys could be

581
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: so far in wait, But Mendez, who is Jack to

582
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: the freaking gills post career, And I'm sure we're gonna

583
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: discuss at some point the lack of drug tistic in

584
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: this sport. It seems, uh, he just thought, you know,

585
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: this is what I'm walking around at. Let's just make

586
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: that fight. You can do ridiculous. I mean, Mike Perry

587
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: rock Hold was a ridiculous crossroads matchup. You can do

588
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: that in BKFC, maybe more easier because of that bare

589
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: knuckle element, But I do have questions on how far

590
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: it can go but you make a good point. Can

591
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: they continue to bring in the money that could afford

592
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: taking big chances like they have with Paige van Zant

593
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: or whomever you know? Can they afford that and keep

594
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: it going? But I think this is a monster wake

595
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: up call to endeavor in UFC, because this is what

596
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 2: all your retired guys that may have a little bit

597
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: of name value and gas left are considering when their

598
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: contract is up. And if you don't have some type

599
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: of house to compete against that, this is what they want.

600
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Didn't Did everybody look like they had fun there? Connor

601
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: looked like he had a blast. Everybody that was there,

602
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: even with the violent nature of it, looked like they

603
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: were really enjoying themselves. That speaks to something here when

604
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: we're talking usually about how DRACONI and these contracts are

605
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: and how you know the money and all that, Like

606
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: this is this f around rod, Like, look, this is

607
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: combat rockin' jock right now, and it's also violent and gnarly. Yeah,

608
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe I should shut up. Maybe the

609
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: bare knuckle is the thing. The only problem is when

610
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: it goes wrong, it could be gross. It really can,

611
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 2: and it can. It can tear you and rip you apart.

612
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: But right now they got something. What do you do?

613
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: What do you inject into that? What do you sprinkle

614
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: onto that? It'll be fun to see down the road?

615
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: Is there any talk or hope of McGregor here, Luke

616
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: or is is it not twenty eighteen and this isn't

617
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Mayweather beat?

618
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: No, he's he got paid to show up to bring attention.

619
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: Mission accomplished.

620
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: I mean again, you're saying he's not getting out of

621
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: that UFC deal anytime.

622
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: So it's got nothing to do with any of that.

623
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: He's just facing off for shits and giggles.

624
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean this idea that Mike Tyson Bob sapp all

625
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: over again basically.

626
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was a little bit more. Let's

627
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: separate these guys. You know, this thing's gonna go hey

628
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: wire kind of a crazy moment in the middle of

629
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. This wasn't exactly that, but I mean it

630
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: was obviously paid. I do want to talk real quickly

631
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: about like one of the other things that it really

632
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: has going against itself, which is, if you actually think

633
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: about the tradeoffs, every decision in combat sports is always

634
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 3: about the trade off. I've said it before, people like

635
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: we got to make fighting safe. There's no such thing

636
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: as safe fighting. There's safer forms of fighting, there's rules

637
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 3: you can put in place to reduce some outcomes, and

638
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: obviously many of those are good, but there's no such

639
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: thing as safe fighting. Fighting is like smoking. The more

640
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: you do it, the worse it's going to be for you. Period. Like,

641
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: there's really no way to do it in a healthy way.

642
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: You mentioned about the drug testing. I'll just be honest

643
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 3: and say that's one of the things I just simply do,

644
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: absolutely do not care. And again I've asked for evidence

645
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: about how introducing antidoping makes combat sports safer, and simply

646
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't exist. There's none to that effect. So put

647
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: in that argument to the side. The one thing I

648
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: do think is worth talking about is the bare knuckle

649
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: nature of it and what it does to people's faces.

650
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: Now here's the interesting part. Eric mcgrackan, who's an attorney,

651
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: runs a site called Combat Sports Law, and he pays

652
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: attention to what studies are out there in the medical

653
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: world that are related to combat sports that could be useful.

654
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: It's obviously very preliminary data. We don't have very much

655
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: at all, but to the extent that we have some

656
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: There does appear to be some studies that have indicated

657
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: bare knuckle might be better long term for less brain trauma,

658
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: but cause more facial issues and certainly particular their lacerations.

659
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah you see after his fight, Yeah, yeah, after Rothwell

660
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 3: and Copeland fight, do they looked like they had been

661
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: attacked by a fucking bear or like in horrible, horrible

662
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: car accidents. Now I want to be clear about something

663
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: one of the real Like we have a video Luke Rockel. Here,

664
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: look at his slip being stitched together and his front teeth.

665
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: The guy looks like he's been doing meth all weekend

666
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: and then he got hit by a car or something.

667
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: This is a guy who's modeling for Polo. Now it

668
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: actually raises an interesting debate. For example, this was something

669
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: that I remember when MMA was going state to state

670
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: and various parties were trying to get it legalized, and

671
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: one thing they said was regulators and various skeptics would say, wow,

672
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: it looks so brutal, and of course it does have

673
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: a degree of brutality, But what we often tried to

674
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: explain to them was, you know, contrast this with NASCAR,

675
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: where someone gets into a very serious car accident. They

676
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: could even die, but you don't actually see any of

677
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: the gruesome details. In many ways, that would be much worse.

678
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: There have been deaths in NASCAR, for example, but you're

679
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: not You're not subject to the grizzly nature of it,

680
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: where an MMA, yes, there of course is some brutality,

681
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: but you're subject to the grizzly nature of it. There

682
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: are still some other safety aspects that may not be

683
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: immediately visible by virtue of how it's.

684
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: In your face.

685
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: BKFC kind of has a similar thing BC, where these

686
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: cuts and bruises and swellings are very much in your face,

687
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: but there's actually less brain trauma over time. Whether or

688
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: not that's a better thing or a worse thing, we

689
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: simply have to debate. But I will tell you, for

690
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: public image.

691
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Purposes, a sport that just literally disfigures people so routinely,

692
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: even relative to MMA, is going to have an uphill

693
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: climb convincing the public it's a good thing.

694
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: Right, And I think it's also going to turn big

695
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: name fighters away. Now, Look, there's always the case that

696
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: somebody like rock Hole looks at it on TV and goes, oh, dude,

697
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: I could do that instantly, and you know, we heard

698
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: him hyping himself up in the lead in my size,

699
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: my length, my elusiveness is going to be too much.

700
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, he looked really good for like

701
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: the first three four minutes and it looked like the

702
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: size difference in the skill was going to be too much.

703
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: But he just got fed up. I mean, like, you know,

704
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Alanaji sometimes talking about the extra scars

705
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: across his eyes that he's got now you know, from

706
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: doing this that's gonna turn people away that really ain't

707
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 2: about this life. It's like, you know, it's gonna it's

708
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: gonna draw a line in the sand because Mike Perry's

709
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: showing you that it's it's not necessarily about you know,

710
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: quickness elusiveness. Sometimes it's about how much are you willing

711
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: to take? You know, MVP was willing to go into

712
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: a sixth round and overtime when they were exhausted and

713
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: it was starting to get a little gnarly in there.

714
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: But uh, I believe, I do believe Connor McGregor would

715
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: enjoy something like this, and you know, Tyson Fury the same,

716
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: Like they just seem to kind of be wired to

717
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: want that and be about that, and fury of course

718
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: comes from a you know, a lineage of supposed bare

719
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: knuckle champions. But across the board, I don't know. Luke

720
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Mma fighters tend to not have shame in general. They're

721
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: also willing to go sell themselves to a you know,

722
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: an elite boxer just for the money. Anyway, Dude, this

723
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: is right in their wheelhouse post retirement. Want to still

724
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: feel tough and dangerous, right, I mean this is and

725
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: then you add the money in, like this is really

726
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: kind of everything. Most of those guys probably want to

727
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: be fair, I think.

728
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: I think yes, But like in the case of like

729
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: a Mike Perry who ends up being just a great fit,

730
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: you're like, wow, man, this really he elevated himself. As

731
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: I mentioned in this whole enterprise, I think a lot

732
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: of other people have like a view of themselves that's

733
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: no longer current or real, and they're attracted to the money,

734
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: which I understand. I certainly get that. But like, dude,

735
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: this was a bad fit for Paige van Zen, it's

736
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: a bad fit for Luke Rockhold, It's a bad fit

737
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: for a lot of these guys who I think want

738
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: to try A chedman is wisely bowing out. I think

739
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: that's a good idea he's calling it today. We'll talk

740
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: about that in a second, but you know, I get

741
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: that they kind of model themselves for what BFC aspires

742
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: to be. But the dude, Luke Rock will be like,

743
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: I still want to do it. You know, I'm not

744
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: going to begrudge him that. If there's another version of

745
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: combat sports that's a better fit, I'm glad he's done

746
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: with this one. This was never it never made a

747
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: lot of sense to me to begin with, just stylistically

748
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: and then him getting just literally disfigured.

749
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Not worth it in the end.

750
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: Not worth it, No, dude, this part's not worth it. No, No,

751
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: not at all, not even close. But you know, you

752
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: do have to think about this. If these guys are

753
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: leaving the UFC, either on their own volition or getting cut,

754
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: there's got to be a part of them that thinks

755
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: about the pay argument a lot, and that you know,

756
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: is this the last era where fighter treatment is so

757
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: poorly looked at? And you know, it's the same thing

758
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: with the NBA stars of the sixties and seventies, watching

759
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: the popularity of the sport in the late eighties and

760
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: early nineties and all the guaranteed money probably you know,

761
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: being bitter and angry, but you can't overlook what that

762
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: career high payday offers to them when they know they

763
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: might only have one or two fights left to give

764
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: to try to like set up the finances for the future.

765
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: That carrot, you know, matters, and you also get to

766
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: be like more or less treated good and promoted, you know,

767
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: in a positive way in the main event, Like I

768
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: think a lot of people, I think there's no ambly

769
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: line of fighters that will be all about this at

770
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: the end of the day. I mean, do you to

771
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: some degree it's already happened, meaning the evolution of the

772
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: sport when it launched again legalized in what twenty eighteen

773
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: or twenty nineteen, it was sort of give you that

774
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: UFC one feel over again. We are starting to see

775
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: strategy and people actually relying more on boxing than brawling

776
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: at times. Do you think on this level though, it'll

777
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: just stay being what it is, a gnarly, freaking closet.

778
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: Fight unless you get guys who are a little bit

779
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: more Mike Perry in terms of the state of their

780
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: career where they're still in the prime Isshu years and

781
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: they're fully invested in it. I guess he had a

782
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: three five deal obviously. Then I think you could get

783
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: something a little bit different. But it really requires not

784
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: just any product in combat sports cannot survive on old

785
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: guys alone.

786
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: It just can't. They can do a lot for you.

787
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: It can be a bit of a sugar rush.

788
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: It's not to say there's not some value to it,

789
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: but it cannot be the core of what you do.

790
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: As long as that's in play, than they I think

791
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: they have a bit of an uphill climb with that

792
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: in mind. BC, let's talk about the co main event,

793
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: all right, So point number two here, Topic number two,

794
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: Eddie Alvarez actually looked. I was a little bit worried

795
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: about him, even though I thought, you know, for okay, bet,

796
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna win, and he did. I

797
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: was a little bit worried about how he was gonna look.

798
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: But in the end he got the split decision victory

799
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: over Chad Mender's dropping him several times. BC, would you say,

800
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: based on this performance, Eddie Alvarez right now is a

801
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: good fit for BKFC or would it make more sense

802
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: for him to go back to MMA.

803
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: You know, attitude wise, right, he's a good fit for this,

804
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, when he comes out with his own underground

805
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: king merch and he's you know, he looked like he

806
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: was all geared up in the good ways, Luke. Yeah,

807
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, but at the same time he was getting

808
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: kind of pieced up by Mendus for a while. It

809
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: took that big shot that I think may have broken

810
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: Mendes his eye socker at least looked like it compromised

811
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: that area to kind of start to turn the fight around.

812
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: And then it became really what peak bare knuckle can be.

813
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: Like two warriors that we already knew in love were

814
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: trading knockdowns. I think they gut knocked down twice each,

815
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: you know, including in the final round where it was

816
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: like they went to the scorecards not knowing if there

817
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: might be a bonus ot round like this is probably

818
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: the best it can be. But with that said, Alvarez,

819
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: with that size difference, even with the speed of Vanata

820
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Mendez probably should have handled them easier without taking as

821
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: much Luke. So, could he be back here for a

822
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: payday and be okay? Yeah, but he also is gonna

823
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: get him be hurt and rocked early. Even though He's

824
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: found many ways to hang into fights. In that regard,

825
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: I still think cashing out in MMA, doing something fun,

826
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: getting into some type of money fight situation is probably

827
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: I mean, in that in that level of shape right there,

828
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 2: he still seems like overall he's got something to give,

829
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: but it's gonna probably be about who's who's calling with

830
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: the most money because you have seen you saw that

831
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: speech from Dana a couple press conferences ago, right where

832
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, we're not in the business of signing

833
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: guys like Atty Alvarez anymore. We're in the business of

834
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: bringing up guys that you know that are become the

835
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: steady Alvarez Basically, yeah, yeah.

836
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: Here's what I thought. I actually thought he was a

837
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 3: pretty good fit for this at this stage. I actually

838
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: thought that the matchmaking here ended up being as clever

839
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: as we thought it might be. Where I think if

840
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: you gave Eddie the kind of task that Mike Perry had,

841
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: where he had to fight someone older, faded, but much bigger,

842
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: I don't know how well that would have gone for

843
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: him necessarily, But Chad was a tough competitor. Again, the

844
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: fight was close in certain ways, but was a little

845
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: bit undersized, and I think the punching tolerance of Eddie

846
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: was a little bit better than I thought it would be.

847
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: Knew his punching power would still be dynamite, and it was.

848
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: In other words, they handicapped it in just the right

849
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: ways while still making it very, very competitive. And when

850
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: I say handicap, I mean ever so slight right, just

851
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: a little bit to give him the push, and he

852
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: was able to take advantage of it and win well,

853
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: and a lot of go ahead be see.

854
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: I was what I should have said, in a short

855
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: sense without talking to circles, was that I think Eddie

856
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: can get himself into a big fight like Perry, which

857
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: would probably suddenly be this action BKFC fight if they

858
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: wanted to make it. I just don't think he'd win

859
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: against somebody his own size, is what I'm saying. I

860
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: think his punches are too wide. I think he can

861
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: be hurt too easily. So him against Perry would would

862
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: probably be great entertainment, and I'd bet on Perry to

863
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: walk him down and probably stop him. But he did

864
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: look like he's you know, back in great shape, and

865
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: he's got some level of durability left to to, you know,

866
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: to get a big fight in any sport that he wants.

867
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: Here here's my view on what Eddie should do right

868
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: for whatever this is worth.

869
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: And I watched all of his fights in one I

870
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: think a lot of MMA fans haven't paid a whole

871
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: lot of attention other than maybe the Nasty you Can

872
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: fight which didn't go his way, but like, for example,

873
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: even the gentleman he had his last MMA fight with

874
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: in one ray Eun Oak. You can see that one

875
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: on YouTube. You can go and look at it, you know.

876
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Eddie should go where he can get old

877
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 3: guy opponents in the most plentiful supply, like the one

878
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: he had on Saturday.

879
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

880
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: Right, So if, for example, came to him with the package,

881
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: it's like, we have a vision for you for these

882
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: kinds of old guy fights, and you know, listen, he's

883
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: got to sell out in those fights. And I thought

884
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: he really brought it in this one. Like it's not

885
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: like you can just get a guy you're gonna beat

886
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: him inside of a round. Like they're still gonna be

887
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: really really tough fights. But he's got to go where

888
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: a promoter can cater to that. Wherever that ends up

889
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: being that to him for me is the best slot,

890
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: because when you're losing to guys like ray Un Oak,

891
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: who is a good fighter, but not a remarkable one,

892
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 3: and that one was very, very competitive the entire way

893
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: through ray Un Oak actually winning obviously in the end.

894
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: You know, if that's the level of guys in MMA

895
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: that are able to hang with you, going to just

896
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: any old MMA promotion that's going to give you big

897
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: dollars but tough opponents, what the fuck is the point

898
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: of that. He's thirty nine years of age, BC, he

899
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: doesn't have a whole lot of check cashing opportunities like

900
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: what he got on Saturday in the future, probably a handful.

901
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Or less, certainly, So he's got to go where a

902
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: promoter's gonna serve him up something.

903
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Like this, right and with like one of his great

904
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: rivals like Michael Chalmler currently unavailable to you know, to

905
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: go make big fight. He probably could make more money

906
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: against Mike Perry and Theory in a BKFC showdown match

907
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: than anywhere else. So maybe that's the direction to go.

908
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I just said I'd have interest in that.

909
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: I wouldn't run away from that in that regard, which

910
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: is which is wild. Here we are it's an alternative, dude.

911
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: This this shit is like, I mean, look, I want

912
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: to ask you. I wanna close on this because we've

913
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: belabored it. But do you think UFC responds. Do you

914
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: think UFC takes all the wasted money and the infrastructure

915
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: already built in power slap and just transitions and creates

916
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: UFC pitfight bare knuckle like. Cause if you look at

917
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: somebody like Michael Chandler, dude, he'd be he'd be perfect

918
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: for this and he'd probably love it right they would

919
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: want to. I would think have an infrastructure to do that.

920
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: Before Chandler comes to the end of his deal and

921
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: he goes, you know what, maybe I will go box

922
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: Mike Perry and bare knuckle like just for the fun

923
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: of it. Do you think UFC responds in any form?

924
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: Do you think they're because everyone's like, damn, Dana couldn't

925
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: have loved seeing Connor in the ring last night. But

926
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: then Jedi Goodman tweeted out, Nah, Dana was probably at

927
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: the blackjack table with a twenty two year old influence.

928
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: I mean, that's probably the truth, Luke. He does live

929
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: a different life right now, but he's got to be thinking, man,

930
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: I screwed up on the slap. Give me the bare knuckle,

931
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: now give it to me.

932
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Here's what I do think is possible.

933
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: Like, do I really believe that BKFC can take meaningful

934
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: market share from UFC? Not a chance in hell, not

935
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: a chance in hell, zero, none, none, whatsoever. I don't

936
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 3: believe that at all, right, meaningful market share like guys

937
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: in their prime who can do numbers and really and

938
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: make grow your product. No, not really, I don't believe that.

939
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: But what I do think is possible is as long

940
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: as they have this infrastructure in Vegas, which everyone's tired

941
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: of but does exist, and they got their own ability

942
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: to distribute to their own channels UFC Fight Pass or

943
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: anybody else. And on UFC Fight Pass, by the way,

944
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: you have this network, this constellation of regional promotions all

945
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: doing MMA. Why couldn't you just do ZUFA Combat Sports,

946
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: ZUFA Boxing. You can even keep the name, and then

947
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: you could do those kinds of things, either through a

948
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: deal through some other promoter game breand I know, by

949
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: the way, does that on the bare knuckle side, by

950
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: the way, So you could do that, or you could

951
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: have your own in house one where you give guys

952
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 3: options in contracts to do it. But remember the only

953
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: reason why BKFC is an exciting alternative is because they

954
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: pay more than what they would ordinarily be able to get.

955
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: If the UFC is just doing the same kinds of contracts,

956
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: when you can do you know, bare knuckle one day

957
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: and MMA the next, it doesn't really change things. Plus,

958
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: I think the UFC would realize we don't want to

959
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: sign guys to those kinds of deals. We want them

960
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: to focus exclusively on MMA to get the most out

961
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 3: of them while they're under contract with us. We don't

962
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 3: want to dilute the product over time.

963
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: So dude, I envision some endeavor run WWUFC zoofa boxing

964
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 2: promotion where like, you know, retired wrestlers can fight retired

965
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: UFC fighters in a boxing match or bare knuckle or

966
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: whatever they want. Like, they got to put their shit

967
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: together and realize that no one gives a damn about

968
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: this stupid slab bullshit. But yet, while you're right, it

969
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 2: will never affect the market share. It is taking people

970
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: that built their names in promotion and inserting them like

971
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: a hot needle into you know, an area where people

972
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: want to see them fight. I mean dude, Like, can

973
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: you imagine Michael Chandler versus Conor McGregor and a barnuckle

974
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 2: fight one day? Like that's that could happen? Who knows,

975
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: you know, but UFC is gonna want to make sure

976
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: they have the ownership on that, and they are the

977
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: soft landing. What do I know, Luke, I don't know.

978
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: All right, before we call it a day on BKFC,

979
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: last thing on this Chad Mendez losing my split decision

980
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 3: to Eddie Alvarez uh and then retiring BC calling it today.

981
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: In his combat sports career, he's got some side businesses

982
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: that he's already been involved in years in the making.

983
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Obviously he served a two year you saw.

984
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: A suspension related to growth hormone. But what would you

985
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: say is his combat sports legacy BC?

986
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: You know he was he was always an elite but

987
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: lunch pale to me, you know, top level performer at Featherway,

988
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: who came oh so close, like you know, you can't

989
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: pick the eras you are in and you know it

990
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: was Josie Aldo's era and and and he fell to

991
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: him twice, but you know, came oh so close and

992
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: had a very competitive fight with him. I like that

993
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: he's got the Conor McGregor shot, even though that was

994
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: on short notice and sort of in an interim title fight,

995
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: but he was at that level three times. He's you know, honest,

996
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: hard working fighter, big time power wrestling base always had

997
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for him, Chad moneymndus. But you're right.

998
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: I interviewed him ahead of this fight, Luke. He's got

999
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: like five or six businesses and adding extra on the regular,

1000
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: from you know, hunting and selling all kinds of game

1001
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: jerky to like all this other stuff he's got going on.

1002
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: He seems like the rare guy who's got his head

1003
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: on his shoulder and like made an instant pivot. Maybe

1004
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: the you know him in Faber, Like you know, two

1005
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: of those that you look at, you're like, damn they

1006
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: they got ahead of this and knew what they were doing. So,

1007
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, a great, honest, tough title contender.

1008
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: Was never able to extend his legacy beyond that, but

1009
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: I always had a lot of respect for him.

1010
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, he doesn't have any singular title

1011
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: anywhere that would make you go oh wow, or that

1012
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: would put him in a very exalted place relative to

1013
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: some of his peers, but at every stage of his

1014
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: combat sports career he kind of fell short of the

1015
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: ultimate prize, but was a high level competitor the whole

1016
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: way through. Two time All American Division one Wrestling, was

1017
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: PAC ten Wrestler of the Year at senior year. I

1018
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: think regular season only lost one match, right, So I

1019
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: mean we're talking about a guy who really excelled at

1020
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: the collegiate level, and then he represented something big in

1021
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, ultimately two thousand and nine going

1022
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: into MMA and.

1023
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: The growth of Little Man at MMA.

1024
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: Obviously Team Alpha mel being the vanguard of that during

1025
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: that era, he was a big player there. He gave

1026
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor a tough fight on short notice. As you mentioned,

1027
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: he had a fun little rivalry in the end ultimately

1028
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: with Jose Aldo was he was an important competitor in

1029
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: those divisions.

1030
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: When he was around, and obviously the usad of suspension, he.

1031
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: Comes back and looks okay and good even at times

1032
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 3: in BKFC. Not a guy you're I think you're gonna

1033
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: remember for any of the ultimate achievements, but a guy

1034
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: who gave the ones who did achieve high part of

1035
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: the reason they reached that level is because they beat

1036
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: guys like Chad Mendez really really really tough, not the best,

1037
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: but very very very high level, hard to beat guys.

1038
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 3: And he represented a lot more in what it means

1039
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: to get collegiate wrestlers and then smaller guys in MMA from.

1040
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: That space, Yeah, no doubt.

1041
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: Look quickly, Ben Rothfeld went through hell and won a

1042
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: BKFC heavyweight fight and now appears to be the next

1043
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: heavyweight title challenger against Alan Belcher. Of all people into

1044
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: that or not really?

1045
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean here's the thing about BKFC, Like, on Friday,

1046
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 3: I rewatched the MVP Perry fight. That fucking shit is brutal,

1047
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: man Like, it's even a little like it's one thing

1048
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: to watch BKFC highlights, but then when you watch the

1049
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: full length fights.

1050
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: It's like, due, this is a lot, man Like. Yeah,

1051
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: not my favorite, not my favorite, all right.

1052
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: It did have a state Fair vibe in Phil McKagan,

1053
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: you know, our a shout out to our great guy

1054
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: NFL coach. He said he was in the arena there

1055
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: in Broomfield, Colorado, and he was like, it was you know,

1056
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: it felt it as ridiculous as it looked on TV,

1057
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: but was really fun. Luke and they got they do

1058
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: have something. I mean, you see the sponsors are like,

1059
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they got a lot of mileage out of

1060
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: that Big Buck Energy drinker aver the hell that was.

1061
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: But dude, the sponsors are like only fans like all

1062
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: this apps, you know, like like a Delta nine.

1063
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: Companies brands too, like Lions not cheap. They have like

1064
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: like they're aggressively right wing. They Yeah, it's just they

1065
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: have like Randon and fuck Joe Biden shirts.

1066
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: Like yeah, the official outfit of January sixth, Yeah, they had.

1067
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, in that ring announcer is an absolute

1068
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: loser too, but yet at the same time he's like

1069
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: kind of charming. I mean, but like what a carnival.

1070
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's that's demolition Derby vibes there before.

1071
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 3: Our fans fully revolt. Let's switch things to UFC. Let's

1072
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: switch things to mm AN. Let's switch things BC. We

1073
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: got some croda eat, my guy, we got some croda eat.

1074
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: We really do today, all right? In your main event

1075
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: at UFC Vegas seventy two, song Ya Doong didn't just

1076
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: beat Ricky Simone. He beat the shit out of them.

1077
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: I mean he was better the entire time, ultimately wearing

1078
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: a fifth round stoppage BC. His wrestling looked on point.

1079
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 3: His I thought scrambling was good, his boxing was crisp,

1080
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: his power looked on point. I mean, they talked about

1081
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: his balance, he always had his feet under him. He

1082
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: looked way better than Ricky SIMONKS. Let's ask the question.

1083
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: You and I were cautious, but we kind of thought

1084
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: Ricky Simon was gonna be better. Totally wrong. What did

1085
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: we miss about song Ya Dawn that he looked this

1086
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: good and we didn't see it well?

1087
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 2: To be fair, our questions were about when or if

1088
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 2: he could put it all together, the flashes in different

1089
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: categories of brilliance that we've seen, when could we see

1090
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: that consistently across a big time fight. To give you

1091
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: the the the uh, you know the visual that he's

1092
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: made a big leap and he's only getting better and

1093
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: he's only twenty four, obviously, but dude, he put it

1094
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: all together in this fight. I mean, it wasn't like

1095
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: the calling card were the big strikes and the powerful

1096
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: right hands that he dropped someone with, but he's knocking

1097
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: him all over the cage. To your point, but the

1098
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: movement to the you know, the setup to get these

1099
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: these combinations off. It's just brilliant. Everything is crisp, on

1100
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: point everything. This is the matcher. This is the all

1101
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: growns up moment up to this point where there's nothing

1102
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: negative to say. We all knew from the beginning because

1103
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: he was such a hyped prospect that it was possible

1104
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: that he could, you know, live up to the hype

1105
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: and become this. But this war takes time and he

1106
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: needed that time. But in that time we had legitimate questions.

1107
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: I love to eat crow. I love to be wrong

1108
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: because you know, in a show like this, we're trying

1109
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: to give you the in the moment feeling of where's

1110
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: this guy going, what does it feel like? You'll use

1111
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: all the information we have, but let's also ride a

1112
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: hot feeling here, and sometimes it can be brutals. Sometimes

1113
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: we're talking about doesn't look like their stocks, you know,

1114
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: going high and low, but there are humans under here.

1115
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: But I love it, Luke, when somebody hears that and

1116
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: they respond and they go to that next level. It

1117
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: takes time. We watched him go through it. But if

1118
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: this is who who song you Dong is and he's

1119
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 2: a player in this deep, deep, deep division.

1120
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: Boy, I gotta tell you, here's what I missed. I

1121
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: think it was.

1122
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of things, Like I said, dude,

1123
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: let me listen to this statistical performance. B See, he

1124
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: scored two knockdowns in the fight song YOUA Dong did.

1125
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: He landed one hundred and ten of two hundred and

1126
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: thirty four attempted significant strikes. Ricky Simone just sixty four.

1127
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: I mean he had almost double what the other guy had. Uh,

1128
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: he stuffed seven of nine takedowns. Total control time over

1129
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: two takedowns for Rickey Simone just fifty one seconds.

1130
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: That's it. Not much.

1131
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: And then that nasty calf kicks two nasty cat kicks.

1132
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: Dude. That how about how about song youa Dong's left hook?

1133
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: That left hook couldn't fucking miss And at times it

1134
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: wasn't just a left hook upstairs, but his body work.

1135
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: In this fight you mentioned in the cafkick I'm talking

1136
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: about to the to the you know, the upper torso

1137
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: or whatever. His body punching, his body kicking at times

1138
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 3: Simone would go south par or whatever was just remarkable.

1139
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: What a performance from this guy. Here's the thing I

1140
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 3: was looking at his record, and I was like, what

1141
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: was holding me back? Like because we were really wrong, right, Like,

1142
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: so what was holding me back? Okay, he didn't look

1143
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: great against Corey Sandhagen. Boy, that Corey Sandhagen win looks

1144
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: excellent and retro, I mean it looked good at the time.

1145
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: I think it looks even better today. But then before that,

1146
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: he beat a fated Marlon Mirash very easily inside of

1147
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: a round. He'd beat Julio Arcea, who was good but

1148
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: not great. He'd beat Casey Kenny kind of a similar situation.

1149
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: He lost to Kyler Phillips, who I do have a

1150
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 3: high opinion of. Then he has the winner of Marlon Vera,

1151
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: but that's from twenty twenty. Who's that's a very different

1152
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: Marlon Vera.

1153
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: Andy, Look, that was a disputed win. That was a

1154
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: very close fight, to be fair.

1155
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: Okay, and the four that he had, and then before

1156
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: that he had the draw with Cody Staman, which was

1157
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: also like a close issue.

1158
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: And these are good fighters, but you.

1159
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: Kind of thought, well, he's sort of like outside the

1160
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: top ten level, good dangerous, big puncher, but not those

1161
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: other things. Dude to your point about putting it all together,

1162
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this is his best performance. I know

1163
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: he's got quicker wins or whatever, this is his best

1164
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: performance in the octagon to date. I feel very confident

1165
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: in that, and from the word go looking better, having

1166
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: a great game plan, having a balanced striking, having a

1167
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: balanced overall offense, knowing when to go, having an opponent,

1168
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: by the way, who has a ridiculous cardio, great wrestling.

1169
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: They scouted him BC. They had a good game plan

1170
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: going in, knowing what to do, a high level fighter,

1171
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: knowing what the assignment is, having a wide range of

1172
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 3: tools to go to while focusing on your strengths. That's

1173
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: elite fighting that we haven't seen him do this against

1174
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: an opponent who, by the way, Ricky Simone come into

1175
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: this contest. Let's remind everyone not on a losing streak,

1176
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: on the hottest streak of his career entering this, which

1177
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: is why we had the confidence in him. False obviously incorrectly,

1178
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: it turns out in retrospect, but dude, to do it

1179
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: like an opponent like he proved to me unequivocally he's

1180
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: a top five guy in this division, no doubt it.

1181
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: Ricky Simon was sitting at like nine or ten whatever,

1182
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: it was, and he was thoroughly outclassed in virtually every

1183
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 3: dimension in this fight. This was the performance of Songa

1184
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: Doong's career by a country mile.

1185
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: Loved what I learned about him.

1186
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't discount how hot Simone was on

1187
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: that four fight win streak and how much it looked

1188
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: like he was ready to turn a corner. You're right,

1189
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: he didn't just get you know, edged out, he got

1190
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: absolutely dominated. So you love to see it. You love

1191
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: to see it, especially not only getting proven wrong, but

1192
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: somebody rising to the occasion and putting it together. It

1193
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: was great. And to be fair, Luke, the same moment

1194
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: happened in that comin event. How about Kyle Barrajo who

1195
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: was screaming into the camera afterwards, Dude, we gotta we

1196
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: gotta start watching out for this neck tatted threat because

1197
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: he's going after it.

1198
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: But before we switch, we'll go to him just a

1199
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 3: second before we switch. Okay, So now we know Songa

1200
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: Dong belongs in the top five very clearly, but we

1201
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: also know there's.

1202
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: A lot of other talent there.

1203
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 3: And while Ricky's is a really nice win for him, again,

1204
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: I think his best performance and in many ways his

1205
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: best wind. Although Chicito Vera has a bigger name, what

1206
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: do you do with him next? Who makes sense as

1207
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: the next right fight for.

1208
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: This kid as he's now beginning to really enter very

1209
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: special territory.

1210
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: It's interesting because, like, you know, you wouldn't hate a

1211
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: Marlon Vera rematch considering that first fight was so close.

1212
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 2: But Vera is coming off of defeat. Maybe Rob Fan

1213
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: is the fight. Maybe that's the next escalation of how

1214
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: real are you? Faonk came back with a very impressive

1215
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: stoppage of Janez. He's thirty five, he was off for

1216
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: a long time, and he's really trying to make that

1217
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: one big last run like Josh Emmett, for example, just

1218
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: did late in his career all the way to the

1219
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: title level. So that seems to be a perfect contendership

1220
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: fight for access into the upper core of this very

1221
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: loaded division. Man, I love this division so much.

1222
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that one. So here's the ones that

1223
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: make sense to me. You've got Morob sitting at one.

1224
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: If Henry wins, I suspect Morob might be next, we'll

1225
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: see how that goes. If not, I don't know how

1226
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: that's gonna play out. Sean O'Malley sitting at.

1227
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: Called out morob dude after that win and it don't

1228
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: taste good.

1229
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that.

1230
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: Corey san Haagen's sitting at three. So here are fights

1231
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: you could do. Be see in my mind, Forest pyotr Jan,

1232
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: you could do that. I don't know if they want

1233
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: to do that with songe Dong, but they could. I

1234
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: think that's a little bit too much for him personally,

1235
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: but you could do it. Cheeto Vera sitting at five.

1236
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 3: I like that one font is sitting at six.

1237
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: I love. I think for me, Vera and Font make

1238
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: the most sense. Let me throw one more at you.

1239
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: One more. What about dominant Cruz?

1240
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: No, no, not for not for song dude. Cruise isn't

1241
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 2: at that level anymore.

1242
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, I agree, but just for argument's sake, he

1243
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: is sitting above him in the.

1244
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: Rankings, right, But I think, I mean, okay, this, I

1245
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: agree with you, to be fair. This is the role

1246
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: that he's at. This is the role that UFC would

1247
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: want Cruise to play, right, you know, like, you make

1248
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: that a main event even if you never heard of

1249
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: song you Dong. You know Cruz, You're like, oh, oh crap,

1250
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: who is this, So that's why you do that. But man,

1251
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: I want I'd want somebody who's a little who looks

1252
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: like they're going in the in the upper direction right,

1253
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: No disrespect to Cruise, but like you know, that's why

1254
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: font Fonts got enough in the tank and is coming

1255
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: off a big enough win where it's just perfect. I

1256
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: don't love the Cruise one in that same Marca, here's

1257
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: what I think you do on every pay per view

1258
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: on the on the microphone. Look, that's why I want

1259
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 2: dom cruise. I'm sorry, I do it is he's great.

1260
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: Here's what I think you do.

1261
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: I think you can do Song of Dong as you

1262
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: indicate it against Vera or font Either of those work

1263
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: for me. I think you do dominant Cruise versus Umar

1264
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: and Nimerga Madoff because what you would want there is

1265
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: you would want to build up a name against the

1266
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: known quantity and dominant cruise. Song of Dong again looked amazing.

1267
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: They're still just twenty four. We don't have to rush it.

1268
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: Umar to me looks ready, he looks ready for a

1269
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 3: big step.

1270
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: Give him Cruise. It thrusts him right into that spotlight.

1271
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: After that dude in a different time in a different division.

1272
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: Umar would be like in the top five right now.

1273
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean, alright, I'm in.

1274
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, how many we don't know this because the

1275
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 3: matchmakers never tell us. You know, this guy has been

1276
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: turned down a lot. You know, people have been like hey,

1277
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: the matchmakers, like hey, we want you to fight Umar.

1278
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: They're like, no, I'm good guarantee, dude.

1279
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: I bet you he has been turned down by chicks.

1280
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: Luke, Well, you know, I don't know what kind of

1281
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: life he leads as a nearly monastic sort of practicing

1282
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: member of the of Islam, but you get the idea

1283
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: like he is, he's ready, My friend, Hey.

1284
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: Can I can I bring up breaking news that just

1285
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: came in to you? Can I keep your reaction?

1286
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: Sure?

1287
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: From from ESPN's Mike Coppinger. After three fights together, Ryan

1288
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: Garcia announces that he is cutting ways with Joe Goosen

1289
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: and no word yet on who which trainer will replace him.

1290
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: But Garcia is going up to one forty, like he said,

1291
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: full time, no more Joe Goosen.

1292
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Luke, Okay, here's what I'll say about that.

1293
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: I think the move to one is good. I think

1294
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: that's right. I think it's a better Waight class for him. Fine,

1295
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: it's not that I think he needs Joe Goosen like

1296
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: it's Joe Goosen or bust right. I'm not positioning Joe

1297
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: in that way. But like I said, dude, when Joe

1298
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: said during the week leading up to Davis Garcia that

1299
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't really tell Ryan what to do.

1300
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: They collaborate on a game plan, I got a weird feeling, dude.

1301
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: I had a weird feeling that that didn't sit right

1302
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: with me. I said so on the show when my

1303
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: first opportunity back, there's just not enough. Ryan, it seems

1304
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: to me from the outside looking in, has a lot

1305
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: of ability and a lot of drive, but not a

1306
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: lot of He doesn't allow a lot of oversight.

1307
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: Into his coach ability.

1308
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: That's going to hold him back.

1309
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: I think, let's be honest, we don't know. We're not

1310
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: there with Ryan gar See a day to day. But

1311
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: what did Canelo Alvarez? What was Canelo willing to go

1312
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: public about In the aftermath of Ryan leaving Eddie Renoso

1313
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: and Team Canelo there in San Diego, they questioned Ryan's

1314
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: work ethic. They said, we know his talent, we know

1315
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: who he could be, but he wasn't willing to give,

1316
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: you know, a championship level of commitment. Ryan, of course,

1317
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: you know, fought against that publicly and said, you know,

1318
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: it was more about the attention. Ryan needed more hands

1319
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: on attention. Look, it wouldn't be if Ryan is a

1320
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: bit of a divo. We don't know, he wouldn't be

1321
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: the first star fighter in that regard. And his own

1322
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: promoter again, Oscar de la Hoya, hall of Famer, sort

1323
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: of regularly cycled through elite trainers once he got up

1324
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: to a certain stature. He had Robert Alcazar for most

1325
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: of his build. Then it was just sort of like

1326
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: he was just trying to find the perfect fit, not

1327
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: just at times to change his style a bit. But

1328
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: when he finally found Floyd Mayweather Senior, for example, Oscar

1329
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: finally had that connection that he was looking for. If

1330
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: it's just Ryan needing to find that connection, fine, Joe's

1331
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, but he does have a certain style.

1332
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: If he's going to escalate and come back with like

1333
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: Derek James or someone that you're like, okay, they can

1334
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: really work on some of the technical deficiencies that are

1335
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: just not there for someone of his excitement and name

1336
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: value fine, but Joe seemed like he was like a

1337
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: fatherly friend to Ryan. And if that fell apart so quickly, dude,

1338
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: is Ryan the issue here? Look, Ryan might be the issue.

1339
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1340
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 3: We're not there, but again I think it will depend

1341
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: on who he hires next and what he hires them

1342
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: to do.

1343
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's fair, So we'll see.

1344
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: He's still young enough where a lot of things could

1345
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 3: get cleaned up, but also lasting on this for Davis

1346
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: Scarcita to see from the All Access epilogue that Ryan, like,

1347
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 3: you know what, old Brendan shab got beat up a

1348
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: little bit on social and he was like, you guys

1349
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: are stupid if you don't think he had.

1350
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: A big win. Big Wino was correct, b dude, in

1351
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: the court of public opinion. Big In for Brendan shop

1352
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: from day one was like, sorry, guys, obviously Ryan was

1353
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: injured and people were clown in him. But it looks

1354
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: like and we talked about the mole and the camp

1355
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: that Mongolian boxer who fought over the weekend. I didn't

1356
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: see the result, but who may or may not have

1357
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: injured Ryan's ribs and sparring that was a whisper between

1358
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: Goosen and Garcia about you know, did the shot hit

1359
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: you in that spot? Yes? Okay, no problem? So that

1360
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: does win back Ryan and for whatever it matters in

1361
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: his own port of court of public opinion, for his

1362
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: toughness and all that. But man, no Strashabish is back. Luke,

1363
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: he's back.

1364
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay, he knew, he knew, he knew.

1365
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: Credit to him, all right, b see point number four

1366
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: Topic four. We'll stick with the UFC Vegas seventy two card,

1367
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: but a very basic one for you. Give me somebody

1368
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: else who stood out for their performance, maybe good or bad.

1369
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: Who do you think?

1370
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Kyle Barrajo is the answer right here. If

1371
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm pronouncing that correctly.

1372
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: You definitely aren't.

1373
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: Remember I don't speak Portuguese, but I had the only

1374
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: guy explained this to me. Our in front is H

1375
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: two rs together in the middle is also H.

1376
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: So how should I be saying this?

1377
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: Kyo kyo? I think it's kyo bohalio.

1378
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: Kyo bohalio. Yeah, dude, he's fun as shit, but he's

1379
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: he's he's really good. But he seems at the very

1380
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: least that intensity and the way he screamed into the

1381
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: microphone afterwards that like he really felt like he had

1382
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: something to prove. This is a tough enough foe in

1383
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: old Sakshik who brings the fight to you and and

1384
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: and had his own moments here. But to get that

1385
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: that victory and the way he did with that much

1386
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: emotion and the almost the ease once it got to

1387
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: the ground, dude, I mean he was nasty down there, Luke,

1388
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: somebody to watch, young fighter. But you get an aggressive

1389
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: tattoo across your throat like that that screams about your

1390
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: your intentions and who you are. But if you if

1391
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: he's mixing that with incredible work ethic and obviously he's

1392
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: in great shape, and if he's training that mind and

1393
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: getting better as quick as it looks, dude, I guess

1394
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: we got to wake up here. We got somebody to

1395
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: watch man, because he's got that killer instinct, right, You've

1396
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: seen that, he's got like that dough Bronx killer instinct.

1397
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: He found it, Luke, I don't know, we'll see, right,

1398
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: he found it.

1399
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm not as okay, I'm not as high on this

1400
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: as you are. I'm not as high on this.

1401
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just high. I mean, that's possibility right.

1402
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe you just swallowed all the gummies before

1403
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: the show. I don't know.

1404
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: I'll say this, the thing that I thought was best

1405
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: was his timing on the level changes was really really good.

1406
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 3: His timing on that, like he really had a clear

1407
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: sense of when to attack. He couldn't get one of them.

1408
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: BC mentioned ORBC I'm sorry. DC mentioned that he wasn't

1409
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: jacking up the underhook on the knee tap to turn

1410
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: him properly, which was right.

1411
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: But he gets the second one, and then he.

1412
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: Worked from the back and again he is once he

1413
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: once he starts working in that in the jiu jitsu

1414
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: world where if someone has relented to a position and

1415
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: now you are fighting on these terms, well he gets

1416
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: to work right away. Here's the things that that stood

1417
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 3: out to me though, Like, I didn't love some of

1418
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: the striking exchanges.

1419
01:03:58,960 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: It was too south paws.

1420
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: He was getting clipped with left hooks by sort of

1421
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: leaning over himself all the time at the end of exchanges.

1422
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: I didn't love that. And I also didn't like, you know,

1423
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 3: if you go back and watch how the choke gets in.

1424
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, Bohalio has great control, but then

1425
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: he snatches the throat relatively easily, and then once he

1426
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: closes it olk Shishik's not even really fighting the hands

1427
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: like it wasn't like you know, it's a clean wind.

1428
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: It's a nice win. He looked pretty good for the

1429
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: whole way through, and in his areas of control he

1430
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: looked very good. But I don't know we learned a

1431
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 3: whole lot from this. I don't know that we like, oh,

1432
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: we were so wrong to question about why some of

1433
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: these other fights were going to decision. I appreciate that

1434
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 3: he was able to get the finished. Again, this is

1435
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: not a poor grade. I would give it a B

1436
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: plus maybe a minus. Like he did well, but he

1437
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: didn't do all that much differently, and he had an

1438
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 3: opponent where some of his particular strengths were very much

1439
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: able to shine against noticeable weaknesses that his opponent had

1440
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: in this particular contest. So two thumbs up from me,

1441
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: But I don't know that I would change my over.

1442
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: We're all like outlook about him based on this one performance.

1443
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: Well, that sounds very similar to Chris Rocks. I'm there

1444
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: for my kids, rant Luke and stuff.

1445
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: What's what's his what's his what's his argument about it?

1446
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: He's there from bring the pain, you know, for for

1447
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: people that are like I'm there for my kids. You know,

1448
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be you know what I mean, like, yeah,

1449
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: what do you want to cook it? Yeah, you're like

1450
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: he's supposed to win in that way. Okay, great. It

1451
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: looked impressive though it looked like he was dialed in.

1452
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily speaking for his long term title future,

1453
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: but he got my attention, Luke. He asked for he

1454
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: called for it. Look, when somebody is not finishing, we've

1455
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: seen it before. So Hudo went through that too. Spoiler

1456
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: alert on resume review right where he was getting a

1457
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: lot of decisions. But you like to see when the

1458
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: fighter feels that pressure, tries to implement it and involve

1459
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: his game, and then gets a finish like that. In

1460
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: that regard, I saw you. I want to see you again.

1461
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: Let's do that thing. I'm not trying to marry him

1462
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: or grope him necessarily, Luke. Okay, but uh, this more

1463
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: of like all right, okay, I'm taking notice. Uncle b

1464
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: C's back. All right, Hey, here we are. You know

1465
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: what I mean, I mean, what do you want me?

1466
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: What do you want me to do? Luke? Do you

1467
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: want me to get the white belt out. You want

1468
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: me to wear the white belt on me? Okay, Luke,

1469
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1470
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: Can you just put it around your throat and sense

1471
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: it as hard as possible?

1472
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: No? No, but uh you know, uh I have white

1473
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: belt jiu jitsu knowledge, Luke, Okay, I never.

1474
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: Forget very good b see very quickly, very quickly. Hudelfo

1475
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: Vieira getting a wind over Cody Brundage, although Cody Brundage

1476
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: pulling guillotine on him. Boy, I don't don't get that one.

1477
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: Gotta be honest with you. Fernando Padija winning against Julian Rosa.

1478
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: My dumb ass was like, ye, that one's going to

1479
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: go the distance. Yeah, that one did not go the distance.

1480
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 2: Uhh.

1481
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 3: Jerio Delima to be defeating Waldo Cortes a Costa Trey

1482
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: Waters by the way, afresh off his LFA win over

1483
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Fuller, had one here, uh Collier.

1484
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 2: Yoh, Jerio not worried about the wastline right now, Luke,

1485
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 2: But you know he's he's getting stuff done right.

1486
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: Hey, he got his hand raised right Yeah, dude.

1487
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: Doesn't he look like do you remember the sarlac? No? No,

1488
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: you remember that giant guy in Return of the Jedi

1489
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: in the pit below, but he had a handler, the

1490
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: guy that cried at the end when he got crushed

1491
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: by the.

1492
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: Wah When the big monster loses to Luke Skywalking and

1493
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: the guy who's like big in fact comes out of

1494
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: the end, he's crying.

1495
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: Yea dead monster.

1496
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy kind of looks like looks like him,

1497
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: Luke two fighters.

1498
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: I want to shout out, and then we'll move on

1499
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: to our last question here or our last topic BC one. Yeah.

1500
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: Irena Alectseva, that's how they pronounced it. I'm not sure

1501
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 3: to pronounce it. She missed weight like like by five pounds,

1502
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 3: but then knee barred Stephanie Egger pretty well in the end.

1503
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: She's got that Russian boxing with the wide hooks. She

1504
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: obviously is Russian, so that was a nice win. She

1505
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: got it done the first round. And how about Marcus

1506
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: McGee three days notice, three days notice against Journey newsom

1507
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: UFC debut and he wins in the second round seven

1508
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 3: oh three via a rear naked choke out of the

1509
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 3: MMA lab in the Arizona's a good job by him.

1510
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: Indeed, And I just want to say you mentioned hodelf

1511
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: Foviira Luke. That wasn't easy, dude. He walked through hell

1512
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: to get that win. But he needed it and you

1513
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: saw that emotion come out. Fun to watch, but he's

1514
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: not a finished product.

1515
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: Look, he's no I mean, listen once again, he's like

1516
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 3: Kyle Baholly in the sense that like, okay, if we're now,

1517
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: if he has an opponent who has relented to the ground, right,

1518
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: they're gonna fight on those terms. Well, he gets cooking

1519
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 3: real quickly, like he's very very good there obviously, but

1520
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: everything else is.

1521
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: Really it's I don't know. I don't know how this

1522
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: one's gonna go.

1523
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: So he's a TV fighter, dude. We thought he was

1524
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: like this technical specialist. He's more of a TV fighter, right.

1525
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: He's a TV fighter. I think you're right. I think

1526
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: you're right. All right, BC.

1527
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 3: It will be on pay per view this weekend. It

1528
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 3: actually be in Newark, New Jersey. You and I are

1529
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: not really going because I guess we don't really want to.

1530
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 3: But either here, neither here nor there. UFC two eighty

1531
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: eight takes place in Newark, New Jersey, at the Prudential Center,

1532
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 3: which is just down the street from the World's worst train.

1533
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: By the way, all the MMA fans who think that

1534
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm lying about the Newark train station, you will have

1535
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: an opportunity if you're going to this fight car to

1536
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 3: go and test whether or not I am lying to you.

1537
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 3: It's just down the street from the Prudential Center, so

1538
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 3: you can go and look. But BC, here's what I

1539
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:08,440
Speaker 3: would care more about less so that instead. What storyline

1540
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 3: about UFC two eighty eight are you paying attention to

1541
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: most as fight we kicks off today?

1542
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's thirty six year old Henry Sehudo, the

1543
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: return from three years away after giving up his title

1544
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: and sort of going into this opportunistic free agent mode

1545
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: couple teases and threats on comebacks. But now it's right

1546
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 2: now for the title. He never lost his belt. He's

1547
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: facing the current champion and al Joe, who you know

1548
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: has had some turns both the d Q and then

1549
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: the win over Dilla Shaw that didn't teach us anything.

1550
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: I think Aljo's looking for some identity in his own

1551
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: bandamweight title reign here and he can do nothing better

1552
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: than to try to beat the last champion who never

1553
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: lost it here in Sahudo. It's a huge fight for

1554
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: for Sterling's well, certainly his legacy, but I think more

1555
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: you know, his his pound for pound critical notoriety for

1556
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 2: the moment. How good is al Joe Sterling if he

1557
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: goes out and wins this. We're not mentioning the dil

1558
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 2: Shaw injury as much or the weird dq in the

1559
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: long time off after that, but you talk a lot

1560
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 2: about that stat that I'd like you to say again.

1561
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: For the people, what we are asking of thirty six

1562
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: year old Henry Suhudo is a lot. But as you'll

1563
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: learn watching our resume review on Tuesday, and as you've

1564
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: already learned watching his career, we're welcoming back the return

1565
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: of one of the greatest thinking man fighters in combat

1566
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 2: sports history, who adapts game plans, makes adjustments. I mean,

1567
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: the biggest storyline here for me, Luke is how does

1568
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: Suhudo look and what the heck are we going to

1569
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: say about his legacy and resume if he pulls this off.

1570
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: This is a big fight. Shudo doesn't get the love

1571
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: and respect he probably deserves because of the cringe character.

1572
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: But I don't even feel like anyone's even talking about

1573
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: this fight. Dude. I can't wait to see what Suhuta

1574
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: looks like. That's what I'm focused on right now.

1575
01:10:58,840 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it.

1576
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: So what's interesting is stat you mentioned it goes like

1577
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: this between flyweight and welterweight. So all of the fights

1578
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: there for any UFC fighter thirty five years or above

1579
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: in title fights, what is their record? And the record

1580
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 3: is two and twenty eight. Those two belonged to Tyron Woodley,

1581
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 3: one of which was a win over Darren Till, who

1582
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: at that fight Darren Till was obviously very young. I

1583
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 3: think in that contest he was I got it right here,

1584
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 3: he was, let's see, twenty five years old in eight months. However,

1585
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 3: the other fight where Tyron Woodley was able to defy

1586
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 3: the odds, so to speak, was against Demi and Maya

1587
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 3: at UFC two fourteen, and in that contest, Demi and

1588
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: Maya was thirty nine years of age.

1589
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: So at least in one of those.

1590
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: Two cases, and they got the root out of the building, dude,

1591
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: they got they got the ship boot out of them, right.

1592
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: But fair enough, Tyron Woodley won that one walking away.

1593
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: The point I'm trying to make here is it's two

1594
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 3: and twenty eight and folks wonder well that I've seen.

1595
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: So walks are like, well that statt doesn't mean anything. Well,

1596
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 3: it's hard to know exactly what any statistic means. But

1597
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: if you're wondering what it means for middleweight and above,

1598
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 3: the same consider rations UFC title fights guys thirty five

1599
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 3: and above.

1600
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: It's basically fifty to fifty.

1601
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: So you go from two twenty eight where one guy

1602
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 3: two and twenty eight where one guy got two of those,

1603
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: one of those against a thirty nine year old guy,

1604
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: and the other at one five and above, it's basically

1605
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 3: a coin flip one way or the other right. So,

1606
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 3: in other words, uh age in the lighter weight classes

1607
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: from a statistical perspective, if nothing else, is highly determinative

1608
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 3: of outcomes, highly determinative, and at thirty six years of age,

1609
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 3: no one has done it. There's not been many bandsom

1610
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 3: weight title fights in history, but no one has done

1611
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 3: it at thirty six years of age and captured the belt.

1612
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 3: It's actually never happened before. More to that point, when

1613
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 3: he beat Dominic Cruz BC in his last contest, he

1614
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 3: was drum Roll thirty three. That is the age al

1615
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 3: Ja man Sterling is today thirty three years of age

1616
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 3: so so folks being like, are you saying, are you

1617
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 3: saying Henry's gonna lose BC lasting on this, he's saying

1618
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: he's gonna lose. Well, these don't predict the future in

1619
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 3: the way that you might think that they are. What

1620
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 3: we are saying is is it an extra uphill climb

1621
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 3: at thirty six years of age with three years off

1622
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

1623
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it is against a guy like al Joe who's

1624
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: you know, awkward and and strong in certain areas that

1625
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 2: are hard to prepare for. Yes, which is why we

1626
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: have to ask ourselves this look. Henry Suhudo rushed into

1627
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: the idea of calling himself great because he's an opportunistic

1628
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: fighter who sometimes right place, one right time. Sometimes he

1629
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: pushed for it publicly. You know, he got himself he

1630
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: became a two division champion, He got himself into big

1631
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,480
Speaker 2: fight opportunities before stepping away for three years kind of unannounced,

1632
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 2: so you know, lack of happiness with the with the pay.

1633
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: It's obviously he was trying to gain some leverage, but

1634
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: he already has a tough legacy to figure out because

1635
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: it's screaming all time great and sometimes you have to

1636
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: look through there and look at the circumstances and and go, Okay,

1637
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: is he really If he comes back and he wins this, dude,

1638
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: there's gonna be no stop signs anymore on where you

1639
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: rank him and if you allow him into that upper

1640
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: tier conversation even of all time greats. But if he

1641
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: does it, dude, look at that statistic, we are asking

1642
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: a ton out of him. So I love this challenge

1643
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: for him because if you had any doubt of who

1644
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: Shudo is all time and if he was really of

1645
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: that ILK, go back and rewatch his fights, watch our

1646
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: resume review it may it may you know, len you

1647
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: in one direction, But he has a chance to prove

1648
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 2: it to us right here, because if he comes back

1649
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: and does this, that's gsp shit, right, I mean you

1650
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, that's like, that's like that's

1651
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 2: the only people that do that are the great dominant

1652
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: crews to be injured and be off for that long

1653
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: and then come back in super elite fights and for

1654
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: the most part make it look like he hasn't skipped

1655
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: to be We're talking about rarefied air. So if Shuto

1656
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 2: is of that ILK, he's gonna come back and he's

1657
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: gonna win this fight. And that's why I want to

1658
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: bang the drum a little bit more on Monday right

1659
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: now and just be like, dude, that's there's there's a

1660
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: potential history here on Saturday. Get ready, like one of

1661
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: the greats is back. All right, let's try to shave

1662
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: off some of that side cringe over here, and let's

1663
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: focus on this American hero going for his own title

1664
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: a second time. Oh man, dude, right, what a fight?

1665
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: Come on?

1666
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Always, By the way, and I want to be

1667
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: clear about something again. We're going back to his folks.

1668
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: Like why are you sharing that stat It's like, well, listen,

1669
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 3: it's important no matter what happens.

1670
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: Right.

1671
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 3: So, on the one hand, let's say Henry loses, it

1672
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: would tell you that like, yeah, like trying to do

1673
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 3: what he did at his age in this division, it's

1674
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,879
Speaker 3: to this point impossible. I mean not obviously in reality,

1675
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 3: but very very difficult to do. And if even the

1676
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 3: likes of Henry Shudo can't do it, you begin to

1677
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 3: wonder who could. On the other hand, BC, the opposite

1678
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: is true, right, So let's say Henry does in fact

1679
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: win and he becomes the first person advancing weight to

1680
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 3: beat the odds in this particular regard. Yeah, he shows

1681
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 3: you what he's made of at that point. He shows

1682
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: you that like and of course we've already seen it.

1683
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 3: Two division champion, Olympic champion, but you know, really doing

1684
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: that extra special thing that only is reserved for the

1685
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: very best of the vest. Either way, it's a relevant

1686
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: stat folks. The guy I shared it because I'm like

1687
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 3: telling you Henry's gonna lose. No, I'm telling you Henry's

1688
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: up against it. That's true, but we don't really know

1689
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. I do want to make a point though,

1690
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 3: al Ja man Sterling isn't being hated this time around,

1691
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 3: because I don't think the fight has like a ton

1692
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 3: of fanfare. And people do love Henry, but they don't

1693
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: love him like so much that they're really attacking al

1694
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 3: Jo in that way.

1695
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this much.

1696
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 3: I didn't when when al Jo had his first fight

1697
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 3: fight with Pyotr Jan I thought, uh, you know, he's

1698
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: sort of we've seen the level of what al Jo

1699
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 3: can do and it's good, but it's not gonna be enough.

1700
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 3: And then he goes in there and beats him, and

1701
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 3: of course he beats san Haagen as well before that

1702
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, but really proving that

1703
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: like his ascendancy is no fluke b See if he

1704
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: goes in there and beats Henry Sahudo, even with Henry having.

1705
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: The uphill climb in terms of age.

1706
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the respect I think he would be

1707
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: owed at that point would be overdue.

1708
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: Is putting it lightly.

1709
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: That would be an incredible championship run against very difficult opposition.

1710
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the DQ not his fault, right, he

1711
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: had to be off for a year which bottlenecked the division.

1712
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: Not really his fault, you know, Dila Shaw's shoulder, not

1713
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: his fault. This is the fight though that we're from

1714
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: a pund for pound standpoint, going to have to figure

1715
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: out exactly where he fits in and give him his flowers,

1716
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: Like big opportunity for him. But one more time on Sahudo,

1717
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: if he wins it, Luke, that's John Jones shit right there.

1718
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: It is like that's what the goats do, right, they

1719
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: do this shit they this is what they do.

1720
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: This is what they do.

1721
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: Also, one more note, if I may, it's the return

1722
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: of Crone Gracie. He'll open the main card BC obviously

1723
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 3: we have about the stakes and the Komaine Blah Mohammed

1724
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 3: and Gilbert Burns would have number one contender fight, which

1725
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: is important. Don't want folks to lose sight of moulves

1726
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 3: are of Loev? Who's taking on Bryce Mitchell? All this

1727
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 3: is kind of happening. Last minute notice at Loev sitting

1728
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: at number ten in the rankings. We make a lot

1729
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 3: of comments about who's coming Yair and Eliot Saporia on

1730
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 3: that one to forty five contender push up top.

1731
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: Or Loev? However you say it quietly inching his way

1732
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: on up and Bryce Mitch, Remember he got whooped.

1733
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, dude. This is Bryce Mitchell right

1734
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: back into the what do you say with that frying

1735
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: pan analogy?

1736
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: Back of the frying out of the frying pan into

1737
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: the fire.

1738
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's straight out of nineteen fifties Middle America, That

1739
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: analogy right there, Luke, And it's true in this case, dude.

1740
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: He was like talking about retirement in the you know,

1741
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: hazy hangover of how badly he was beaten and stopped

1742
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: there by. I mean, you got submitted by Eliotaporia. But

1743
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: it was a it was a beaten dude. He's coming

1744
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: back and facing somebody who's on a great run, unbeaten

1745
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 2: in the UFC, unbeaten overall, ready to show us exactly

1746
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 2: who he is. I got respect for Bryce Mitchell taking

1747
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: this fight right now right here, that that's how great

1748
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: he still feels he can be Luke. But he's got

1749
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: some questions to answer. So that's a great fight, and

1750
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 2: the same storyline into that Chrome Gracie, as you mentioned

1751
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 2: at featherweight against Charles Jordan Luke. I didn't realize that

1752
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: Crohn's the of Hickson as we already know, and the

1753
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: grandson of Helio, the co founder of BJJ. But I

1754
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: didn't know in the three years since he's been gone

1755
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,839
Speaker 2: that everyone from his dad to you know, his Gracie

1756
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: cousins were openly criticizing the last time we saw Chrome

1757
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: Gracie when he stubbornly refused to take the fight to

1758
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: the ground and got into that slugging war with Cubs

1759
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: Swanson and it was a fun fight, but you know,

1760
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: he got beat up and handled in that one. I

1761
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: didn't know there was like public family pressure of like no,

1762
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: you know, come.

1763
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: On, you know what I mean, Like, so there's always

1764
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:32,919
Speaker 1: family pressure with the Gracies.

1765
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 2: So do you think he comes back looking to looking

1766
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: to tap that, ask, Luke, or what you know?

1767
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't.

1768
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I have to go back and watch the

1769
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: cup Swanson fight, But from recollection, I don't think he

1770
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: wasn't Necessarily he wasn't trying to take him down. He

1771
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: just wasn't very good at it, and Cup Swanson tuned

1772
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 3: him up as a result.

1773
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 2: No, dude, he was committed to taking big punches and

1774
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: trying to walk him down in like a barbaric way.

1775
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: You gotta go because I got criticized after that fight

1776
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: for saying, you know what, I kind of like the

1777
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 2: striking of Chrome Graci and everybody's last me. What I

1778
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 2: meant was I liked his sort of one sided willingness,

1779
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: like I have to show you guys I can do this,

1780
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna go out there no matter what,

1781
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: to walk through that shit. I mean, he didn't look

1782
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: great doing it, Luke, but I appreciated the effort. Apparently

1783
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: the Gracies did not.

1784
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, they say he's only credited with

1785
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 3: two takedown attempts, both of which happened in the third round. Again,

1786
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and watch. But one of

1787
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 3: my chrome Gracie has amazing jiu jitsu. People think, oh,

1788
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 3: he has bad striking but good wrestling. No, his wrestling's

1789
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: not that great either. His jiu jitsu is god tear.

1790
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you just can't get much better than what

1791
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 3: he is, right, I mean, it's just like the apex level.

1792
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 3: Although he has an old school style, but his wrestling

1793
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: is not amazing by any stretch of the imagination, and

1794
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 3: his striking is not great at all. So just to

1795
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 3: correct the record there about that.

1796
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 2: Thank you for doing that, Luke. Oh, by the way,

1797
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: Drew Dober Matt Fravola and that featured prelim is gonna

1798
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: be a banger, Luke. You see bang bang bang bang trying.

1799
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: I got a name for you you should pay attention

1800
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 3: to on the very like near the bottom of this card,

1801
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 3: ikram Alis Kaarov. And I know you haven't heard of him.

1802
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: But he's important for a couple of weeks.

1803
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 3: Hold on here, here's you being too good two. You

1804
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 3: think I'm trying to make a hipster pick when I'm

1805
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 3: actually trying to help the audience. And this is you

1806
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 3: getting in your own way again. Here's why he's relevant.

1807
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 3: Two reasons. One, Combat Sambo World champion. He is the

1808
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: only guy in Combat Sambo on two occasions to beat

1809
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 3: Yarslav Amasov number one. Number two, he actually fought on

1810
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 3: the regional scene Humsat Chimaiev. Now, he did get knocked

1811
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: out by Chamiam because Chamaiv is an absolute hammer. But

1812
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: he could not take this kid down and he tried

1813
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 3: hardcore as alis Karov excuse me, stuffed all of his attempts.

1814
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 3: And of course I think he had a ultimate excuse me,

1815
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 3: a contender series about which he won via Kimora in

1816
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 3: the first round. The dude looks absolutely ready for the

1817
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 3: big time.

1818
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: He is on this card. I think on the early

1819
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: prelimbs he'll be taken on. Phil Hawes be on the

1820
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: lookout for him.

1821
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. Too into Androge versus yan

1822
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: Chanan in.

1823
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 3: The sense that they've both earned this fight against the other.

1824
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 3: Sure in terms of like, do I really believe that

1825
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 3: the winner of this can be the weight class champion

1826
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 3: in the case of Androge again, no, I don't know.

1827
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm with you. I get it, Luke.

1828
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't hate this card, but it's not I mean, look,

1829
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: we didn't even mention the negative storyline that encircles this card.

1830
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: Why are you rushing Balah Muhammad and Gilbert Burns into

1831
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: a five round non title co main event that you

1832
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: say you're promising them will produce the next title challenger

1833
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: when Burns was just in a three round fight three

1834
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: weeks ago and Balah Mohammad accepted this fight while still

1835
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: observing Ramadan for a month and fasting like this is

1836
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: the wrong time. The fighters basically let that be known.

1837
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: But is this the only chance they're going to get

1838
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: to come save this card and fight each other right now?

1839
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: And figure out who's gonna follow Colby Covington into the

1840
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 2: Leona Words fight.

1841
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: I get I guess they just wanted more insurance because

1842
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: it's on pay per view. I don't know much. I

1843
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: can't imagine why they would rush it beyond that, To be.

1844
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: Honest with you, doesn't it seem hasty, Luke? It seems

1845
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: very hatey.

1846
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: It's hasty. Yeah, Like this is not in any way

1847
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: the like wow, we could have like if you could

1848
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: do a perfect world, what would be the optimal time

1849
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: for this fight? It would not be now, you know.

1850
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 2: It's far from that, But it seems like the like

1851
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: they're having trouble in the war room, Like they look

1852
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: you know what, they look like me trying to fill

1853
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: out that imaginary I f W card, which look, I

1854
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 2: still think I won, even though I botched it in

1855
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: the end, but it did look like me trying to

1856
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: definitely imagine if I had just put Adis Sonia against

1857
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: CHIMAIAV in the main event, no one would have had

1858
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: any issue with all my rematches the rest of the way.

1859
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you had done things you didn't do,

1860
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: you might have won. But because you did the things you.

1861
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: Did, says says the guy who mapped out John Jones

1862
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: versus Robert Whitaker.

1863
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fine, I'll take the elder main event sucks

1864
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: the rest of my card. Burries yours, ver yours.

1865
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: You don't have Jamiah versus Boonnicol you we don't have

1866
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 2: that at home, mom.

1867
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: No versus Islam Makachev. So you can, you can?

1868
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 2: You know, Rose Waley three is really the People's Champion fight,

1869
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: you know, people's main event on that card.

1870
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: Look, okay, so yeah, how about Brandon Marino versus Henry Sehuda.

1871
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: Why don't I mean, that's that's fun. But I got

1872
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 2: Gay Sheep two Luke, I got We'll just bang you okay,

1873
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: truck guy, all right.

1874
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: You want, I've got, I've got Greg Hardy and Ivasa

1875
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 1: just banging, just banging. All right.

1876
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: Uh, we're done with our top five. Let's get to

1877
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: the part of the show where you get to ask

1878
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 3: us questions. It's time for d ms from the Dignity Dogs. Yeah,

1879
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: real boys and girls.

1880
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 2: Oh, I got more male viewers viewers?

1881
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: All right, b C from at the Reign of Dan Dough.

1882
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: What the fuck kind of name is that? All right?

1883
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 1: Aside from Mighty Mouse? Good question.

1884
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 3: Actually, has Mike Perry had the most successful post UFC

1885
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 3: career and they're defining that as fame, money and fighting success.

1886
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: What do you think you see?

1887
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 3: Because you could to say brock Lesner because he went

1888
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 3: back to WW I mean he fought the one more

1889
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 3: time in two hundred or whatever, but you know, not really.

1890
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: So the idea is that they were with the UFC,

1891
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: they left to go somewhere else, and then they who

1892
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 2: had the highest who had the most success, highest profile

1893
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: all that.

1894
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 1: With fame, money and fighting success, they had to win fights,

1895
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: they got paid and they got attention for it.

1896
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: I feel like there's an obvious one we're missing, Luke,

1897
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: What are the contenders in this category?

1898
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 3: Benson Henderson would be one. Anyone who left UFC, Phil

1899
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 3: Davis would be one.

1900
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: Oh, Ryan Bater. I guess you could say Vader.

1901
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 3: You could Brian Bater had a lot of success when

1902
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 3: he left, million dollars, Corey Anderson, anybody who left UC

1903
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 3: for Bellatore or something like that, you could. Maybe you

1904
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: could maybe say Kyogi Horgucci because he wound up winning

1905
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 3: the Bellatur and Riisen belts when he left, became a

1906
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 3: huge star obviously in Japan by having some time spent

1907
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 3: in rizing. You could put him on that list.

1908
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: Is shooting up Matt Riddle right now, which is very interesting.

1909
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Matt Riddle or Matt Riddell, however you say it.

1910
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 3: But the problem was he didn't fight, really, he did

1911
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 3: pro wrestling, so that's not You can just call Himriddle.

1912
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: You don't have to like offer alternate pronunciations.

1913
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: Am I not? Am I imagining things that? Like UFC

1914
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: commentators called this dude Riddell for a long time.

1915
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: Well, Mike Goldberg will call anybody anything, Luke, all right,

1916
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: please you right?

1917
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 3: You know Uh okay, uh a point taken. So yeah again,

1918
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 3: if you want to include other things, there are people

1919
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 3: who blew up afterwards, but like CHL would be a

1920
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: good example of a guy who made a decent post

1921
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: UFC run. But yeah, losses and you know, so, yeah,

1922
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 3: Mike Perrys on that list, Dude, Mike Perry is on

1923
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 3: that list all right, from at slick Propaganda that's a

1924
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 3: better name.

1925
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: Is there any information on bkfc's drug testing policy? Is

1926
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: there one? Should we care if there is?

1927
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 3: For folks have been I know, I believe Stephen Morocco

1928
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: of him fighting, had asked the Colorado Commission who's in

1929
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 3: charge of drug to in this event.

1930
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: They were like not us, And we're like, well then who,

1931
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: And everyone's.

1932
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: Like ask Novitzky about it. I'm so happy I'm not

1933
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: responsible for that anymore. Yeah, obviously they don't have it, Okay,

1934
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't even think that. I don't even think they

1935
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 2: have like minimal state required piss tests, right, Luke, they

1936
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 2: don't even have that right right?

1937
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Well, again, the Commission said they were not testing for it,

1938
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 3: like openly, yeah testing.

1939
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 2: I've talked to a BKFC fighter before to who echoed

1940
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 2: that too. Should they have it? No, this is a

1941
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 2: carnival Luke, this is this really is I mean, is there?

1942
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: Dan? Can you imagine thinking?

1943
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine how absolutely nineteen eighties Nancy

1944
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 3: Reagan drug war were brainwormed.

1945
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: You have to be to be like, you know what

1946
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:42,959
Speaker 1: BKFC needs.

1947
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: Right, No, they don't need drug testing. Neither does Power Slap.

1948
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: You know, it turns out what a shock everybody in

1949
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: Power Slap is on all kinds of drugs. Yeah, obviously, right,

1950
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, no, but just say, look, it's obvious,

1951
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: it should be obvious to you that elite levels of

1952
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 2: boxing MMA that they're everywhere.

1953
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: So dude, who shows up to an orgy and goes,

1954
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: you know what, this orgy needs more condoms? That's really

1955
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: that's the thing.

1956
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: That's that would be a very j Aaron move.

1957
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Probably right, Hey, what's Jay good for?

1958
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 3: He's the guy who brings the condoms, doesn't ever use them,

1959
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 3: but he's got them.

1960
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: No, No, yeah, that's a yeah, there you go.

1961
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: All right, I'm saying he doesn't use it because he

1962
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: doesn't get laid, but there could be other reasons why

1963
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: he also doesn't use them. All right?

1964
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 3: From Attoll Underscore Brown eight five eight. I'm gonna I'm

1965
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: gonna get a text from him. He's like, I do

1966
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,799
Speaker 3: get laid all right? After a big win against legendary

1967
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 3: Judo Jimmy Walhead and another Cage Warriors title, what does

1968
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 3: Rise McKee have to do to get another shot in

1969
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:42,759
Speaker 3: the UFC.

1970
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I think he's poised BC. Did you see he got

1971
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: a big win over the weekend?

1972
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't following this story. Luke, Is that Antonio

1973
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 2: McKee's other son from the body shop? Luke? Probably not.

1974
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 3: No, unless he has a white son that I'm not

1975
01:28:54,840 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: aware of, But no. Rises from the UK and Jimmy Juno,

1976
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: Jimmy Wallhead fun in UFC for a little bit of

1977
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 3: sort of a famous guy on the UK scene during

1978
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: my twenties and thirties. He retired officially to the loss.

1979
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 3: After the loss, I should say and then Rise McKie.

1980
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

1981
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 3: I love Cage Warriors and it's really relevant for the

1982
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 3: European guys, but for American people. If you're not into

1983
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 3: or you don't have time for like the very very

1984
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: top promotions, we get to a portion of your time.

1985
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 3: It's hard to make time for certain certain cases.

1986
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 2: So, dude, I'm so happy I'm not covering pro wrestling anymore.

1987
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 2: Do you know how much time you have to put

1988
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 2: in on a weekly basis to be a It's.

1989
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Like every days there's something every day.

1990
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: Dude, there's hours per week of stuff. I mean just hours.

1991
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 2: It's just and it's never lives up to like making

1992
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: you feel redeemed of getting your time, you know, well spent,

1993
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it's a shame because

1994
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, the highest levels of that genre are awesome,

1995
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 2: they're great, But man, you got to carry a lot

1996
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: of water to get there, Luke, you got to carry

1997
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: jugs of it, big jugs, giant. I mean we all

1998
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 2: like big jugs once in a while, right, yeah, Okay,

1999
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: I don't know how we ended up there. All right,

2000
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: that's great.

2001
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 3: I like him too, Who who doesn't? I mean, it's

2002
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 3: that makes the world go round, all right? At AO

2003
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 3: p W underscore figures fill in the blank. Tank Davis

2004
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: is to boxing as blank is to m m A.

2005
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: What do you think BC?

2006
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: If Sean O'Malley wins a title, then that's a decent comparison.

2007
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have to win it. You have to

2008
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 1: win a title a title.

2009
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: Who he Well, he's yeah, he's not one that matters.

2010
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah he's won secondary titles. But you're right, he's yeah,

2011
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: you're right.

2012
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's the thing.

2013
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's actually possible to be a

2014
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 3: megastar in M M A without winning a title. You

2015
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 3: can be something special and you can do better than

2016
01:30:53,400 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 3: a lot of people had the rare Nay, he also

2017
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 3: win an interim strap, So that's not totally fair.

2018
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, you see what I'm saying, Like you've got

2019
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: to be in proximity to.

2020
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 2: That, or you got to be a character Nate Diez,

2021
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 2: Cowboy Seroni, Yeah, I get it. Whatever.

2022
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 1: In general, I mean, there can be exception here or there.

2023
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: But I think I mean Sean O'Malley comes the closest

2024
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: to trying to make an equivalent of Gravante. He just

2025
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 2: needs to get like across the board critically, Like it's

2026
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 2: not okay, everybody knows shawnamalley is elite, like he's about

2027
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 2: to fight for the title probably right, so we all

2028
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: know that, But I think Gervante has proven a little

2029
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 2: bit more that how great he is and that if

2030
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: you match him up with anyone he's got a chance

2031
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: to win it, right, O'Malley still has a little bit

2032
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 2: more proving with that.

2033
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: Well way and we're not talking about it. But Friday

2034
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 3: we should be ready. He gets sentenced on Friday, Davis.

2035
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 2: So Friday is a big day, Luke, you ready for

2036
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: this day? Davante has his hearing to get sentenced, although

2037
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: I do hear his team is confident there will not

2038
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 2: be jail time, just potentially some type of It's my

2039
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 2: sixteenth wedding anniversar Ry, Luke Sinko, you know Sinco de Mayo.

2040
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 2: It's one Championships first card in the US, and it's

2041
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: a good one. By the way, we got a bunch

2042
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: of interviews you can check out on our YouTube channel

2043
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 2: with Demetrius Johnson, Rich Franklin all that. Also, Luke, Game

2044
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: Bread Bare Knuckle is giving us the return of Roy

2045
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 2: Nelson with Roberto Doran promised ringside in that in that

2046
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 2: sloppy set up they got going on there, you care

2047
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: about that? No, Dylan, bad Boy Kleckler are gonna take

2048
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 2: on Big Country Nelson for Game Bread Bare Knuckle Friday night.

2049
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: No, you know I'm good. I'm good.

2050
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 2: Marlon Vera on the call, no, you're not into that, Okay,

2051
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: all right?

2052
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 3: I mean I like Morland just fine, but I'm nottioned

2053
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 3: in that card, all right. Last, but not least, Yes,

2054
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 3: So Tank Davis, Big day on Friday, Big day all

2055
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 3: right at cal dot I mean this is his fucking

2056
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:53,799
Speaker 3: guy's name, cal dot Comy.

2057
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Good god, that's all got Wow.

2058
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 3: Drove past the Q for a Cannibal Corps gig last

2059
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 3: week and ever have I seen a bigger gathering of

2060
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 3: unemployment and regrettable tattoos?

2061
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's fair. With that said, what is the worst

2062
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: crowd you've ever experienced? Live? Bce go?

2063
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 2: First, I went to spring Break in like two thousand

2064
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 2: and four and Daytona Beach, Florida, Luke. My parents lived there,

2065
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 2: you know, and I was like in my early twenties,

2066
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: mid twenties, you know, probably shouldn't have been there. I

2067
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: was at a digital underground concert, which is interesting enough.

2068
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 2: In two thousand and four, there was there was a

2069
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: there was there was a handsy crowd, Luke. Okay, there

2070
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: was a lot of inappropriateness going on all around me.

2071
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 2: The crowd wasn't even really listening to the music either.

2072
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 2: They were kind of just watching everybody get groped. I

2073
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 2: mean it was gross, Luke, that's a pretty bad crowd.

2074
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. I'm trying to

2075
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 3: see if I can remember the name of the band

2076
01:33:55,360 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 3: that I saw that was so absolutely awful in every

2077
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:02,799
Speaker 3: capacity you could imagine.

2078
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the name. I can't find it here.

2079
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't have it in front of me.

2080
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 3: I said before, like I'm into like the heavier, heavier

2081
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 3: kinds of metal thrash and you know, death and then

2082
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 3: and then stuff like that, and uh, you know those

2083
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 3: crowds are filled with absolute trench coat mafia losers too.

2084
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 3: I want to be very clear about that, right, Like

2085
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 3: when people are talking about how gross the crowd looks

2086
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 3: at these shows, they're right, they look terrible. But she

2087
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 3: took me to one of her shows, and she's a

2088
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 3: little bit more into like Norwegian metal, like black metal death,

2089
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 3: but like you know, gothic metal almost, which I think

2090
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 3: is just let me tell you something, folks, If your

2091
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 3: metal singers are dressing up like you know, a kiss

2092
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 3: cover band or old pro wrestlers, your fucking band sucks.

2093
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 3: Just want to be very clear about that. Like I

2094
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 3: think very little of you, or your taste or your band. Anyway,

2095
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 3: she took me to one of those fucking bands, and

2096
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 3: the crowd in attendance, Dude, there was not a person

2097
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 3: there that had an alarm clock going off at seven

2098
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 3: am for a job the next day.

2099
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: Not one.

2100
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I was worried about getting lice. I was

2101
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 3: worried about getting shot. I was worried about anything you

2102
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:10,440
Speaker 3: could imagine in terms of the overall level of humanity

2103
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: in that in that room. And uh, I told her

2104
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 3: after that night I would never go to one of

2105
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 3: those shows again, and I haven't.

2106
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 4: So.

2107
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 2: Look, I think your love of weird gross metal is

2108
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 2: probably your worst character trait in most of the port Why.

2109
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you are a you. You pride yourself on

2110
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 2: being a knowledgeable knower of things, and I think an

2111
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: appreciate tour of of your own versions of art. You know,

2112
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 2: you love fine dining, You have opinions about cities like

2113
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 2: your your cultured guy man. You know, like you got

2114
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 2: a lot going on there across the board. And then

2115
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 2: you also like Cannibal Corpse, Luke. And you know, I

2116
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 2: mean I got a lot of holes in my game

2117
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 2: there too, Luke. I mean, if we showed that that

2118
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: shot of my toes again. You know, we might lose subscribe,

2119
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 2: but you know I want you to. I want you

2120
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: to appreciate the musical arts in ways that you have

2121
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 2: at times, but you no longer are interested or willing to.

2122
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Maha Vishian orchestras for everybody. Look,

2123
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. Okay, I'm not saying that.

2124
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: But well, I'll tell you what.

2125
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 3: After this land last Cannibal Corps show I went to,

2126
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 3: I went to the one in Fillmore and Silver Spring, Maryland.

2127
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: After it was over, I was like, I think that's

2128
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: my last one of these for a lot.

2129
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is it's time to put that away, Luke. Okay,

2130
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 2: it is time to put that away.

2131
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: There was definitely some people there that, you know, I mean,

2132
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: you keep vape. That's if I'm being honest, you know

2133
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

2134
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what about How are you doing on

2135
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 2: vaping right now?

2136
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: Luke? Pretty good?

2137
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 3: I haven't you can hear me coughing because my daughter

2138
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 3: just brings home communicable diseases like they're it's a contest.

2139
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 3: But I haven't vaped in several days, so I'm you

2140
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 3: know it's fits and spurts, but I'm doing okay.

2141
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: Why don't you drink more water? That just looks like

2142
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: someone dip their balls in it?

2143
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: Hey, this used to be ag one, Luca, Are you.

2144
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 1: Growing tadpoles in there? What are you fucking doing?

2145
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 2: I'm cleaning out my insides, Luc. It takes time, all right,

2146
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 2: I do a lot of damage to it. Part is

2147
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 2: that enough of the dms. Can we talk about some

2148
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 2: real shit?

2149
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Time to see BC species. Let's

2150
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: see it all right.

2151
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 2: I scoured the globe yesterday for the highs and lows,

2152
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the ugly, and the in between

2153
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 2: in the worlds of combat sports, but mostly beyond right,

2154
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 2: elder abuse, right, get ready, It's time for some shit.

2155
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: Yes. I love what old people get. It's like I'm

2156
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: gonna get on this scooter, this motorized scooter that I

2157
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 1: have no method of controlling.

2158
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Oh, Luke, we tend to start when UFC is at

2159
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,759
Speaker 2: the apex, right, because they're always there. Here's Ricky Simone

2160
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: breaking out jokes from the BC playbook, but not really

2161
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 2: pulling them, not really landing them. Here, Luke, your thoughts.

2162
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: The dog is a little bit bigger than I thought?

2163
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 2: Is that what you want to?

2164
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,839
Speaker 1: I like how you think the BC playbook is sticking

2165
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: the landing on the jokes. I like how, yes it is,

2166
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: it is.

2167
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: You gotta sell it. Look, sometimes the material is not great,

2168
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 2: but you gotta sell it, right, You gotta take it home,

2169
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta commit to the part, all right.

2170
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Always like Dusky Rose with the polka dots.

2171
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 3: Right, I'm gonna point out he's regrowing the mullet. I'm

2172
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 3: just saying, you've never seen a UFC champion with a

2173
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 3: mullet for a reason.

2174
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Well he got he found out

2175
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 2: about you, dong Luke. He knows the size of the

2176
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 2: size of that challenge. Now hey, let's go to Kyle Barrallo.

2177
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Bojolio, boholio.

2178
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: Uh luke. He wants respect, and he wants it the

2179
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 2: fuck right now. Okay, streak it.

2180
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: You'll see this, now, you'll see this.

2181
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Now pull respect on my fucking end. Look, you heard

2182
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 2: the man.

2183
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: Please, you know what he should just ride it on

2184
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: his throat.

2185
01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 2: All right, uh luke, flyway, Cody Dernan, excuse me. He

2186
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 2: picked up a decision win over Charles Johnson, but then

2187
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 2: he decided to drop some bars. You love weird rap,

2188
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 2: Let's get into this.

2189
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: I love weird rap, and I'm ready for a ring

2190
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to point it.

2191
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 5: You know has three in a row. And like I

2192
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 5: said before, you know I don't promote fights.

2193
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:21,759
Speaker 2: I pick fights.

2194
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 5: I'm a bad man like John Jones, and I sound

2195
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 5: like Sean Combs, and I got trombone size stones like

2196
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 5: John Holmes.

2197
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 1: Let's go baby.

2198
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 2: You know, look the great hip hop artist Chill Son,

2199
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 2: and he was sampling right there.

2200
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 3: He sounds like Shawn Combs. Shawn Combs hasn't sounded interesting

2201
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 3: in his life, so I don't know if that's exactly

2202
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 3: the comparison he wants.

2203
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 2: All right, he made a lot of money off of

2204
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 2: his friend's death, Luke, you gotta give that to show.

2205
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Certainly he monetized the balls off that didn't he? Dude?

2206
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: When you die, I'm selling fucking T shirts left right.

2207
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 2: You understand you're gonna hire RJ right. I knew it.

2208
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: Could I hire our day to make fuck be seeing

2209
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: his death shirts?

2210
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 2: Uh, Federweight Fernando Padilla is a newcomer, Luke, and he

2211
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 2: he squeezed Juicy Jay right here.

2212
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 3: You see this damn, yeah, he sure did. He gets

2213
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 3: caught backing up straight and just gets lit up. He

2214
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 3: recovers and then gets hit again.

2215
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: Boom. Good lord violence. She's just a little bit sketch, Right,

2216
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 1: how do you feel about the stay? Yeah?

2217
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 2: But you know what I like the I like the

2218
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 2: pompous acts that Padilla's showing, like he's acting the part

2219
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 2: of badass as he's knocking this guy around. Man, right,

2220
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: he's just like yeah, like, yeah, you.

2221
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 1: Know, I like to interact with his parents afterwards.

2222
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 2: No I didn't, should I have?

2223
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was a real sweet moment, man.

2224
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 2: All right. Finally, Luke, you mentioned women's bandam weight Irena

2225
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: alex Seva. She may have weighed uh, you know, crazy

2226
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 2: heavy here, but look at this celebration for the win.

2227
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 3: She joked about it because they used to they call

2228
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 3: her the Russian Ronda, and then they asked her why.

2229
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 3: She's like, well, I had long hair, I looked like Rhonda.

2230
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 3: But then she joked, apparently that she now looks like

2231
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 3: Henry s a Hudo.

2232
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 2: Well, look, you can't spell judo without Sahudo.

2233
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: I wanted you to know that true.

2234
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 2: Stephanie Egger got handled there in round one all right,

2235
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 2: let's keep it going, Luke. A lot of people sent

2236
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia to hell before they realized he was injured,

2237
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 2: and Brendan Schab was right. One of those people was

2238
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 2: former title challenger Jessica I. What'd you think of this meme? Luke?

2239
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think much of it. I

2240
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 3: think that this very insecure desire by folks in the

2241
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 3: NIMA community to make the world want to see that

2242
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 3: they're tougher or they believe that they're tougher than boxers,

2243
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 3: and that they want the world to recognize this is

2244
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 3: a really a meaningless and again, as I mentioned, kind

2245
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 3: of insecure errand that you're not going to win and

2246
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter and it's frankly not even true.

2247
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, let's go over to be AFC

2248
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 2: forty one, Luke, great transition. Your T shirt of the

2249
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 2: week was from Rawlings.

2250
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm here for it, bro, I'm here for it.

2251
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I don't even think we could say

2252
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 2: it on the air, but all right, hey on the

2253
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 2: prelimbs though, did you see this Tyler weine Miller? Uh

2254
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 2: he he needed seven seconds to end this bare knuckle fight.

2255
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 2: Watch this, Luke?

2256
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, big Dan had his work cut out for him. Bop, oh,

2257
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: just head on a not on a swivel, just a pike.

2258
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,759
Speaker 2: If he looks like bam bam Drux right there, right.

2259
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like he's fighting Duru's accountant, uh or

2260
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 3: Kenny Powers or something.

2261
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we bet you caught McGregor. Was there, dude?

2262
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 2: Did you see him riding the roller coaster during Mendez

2263
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 2: Alvarez watching his two sons compete.

2264
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,679
Speaker 1: Luke sober, I'm sure.

2265
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2266
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: Although I'm not hating, I wish I wish I could

2267
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: love a laugh like that, where he's just showing up

2268
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 1: a hand, like we need you to show up drunk.

2269
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: We'll pay a you know, fifty grand to do it.

2270
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well you're speaking of that. They did

2271
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 2: have some Proper twelve on site. Oscar Willis was there

2272
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 2: with the bottle, and you know Connor, the gentleman he is, Luke,

2273
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: he went after it, all right, he went after it.

2274
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I've said it before. Is proper

2275
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: twelve good whiskey? No? No it is not. But is

2276
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: it good party whiskey? Yes it is, Yeah, it is.

2277
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 2: I like shops better, though, dude, shops. Whiskey's better, man.

2278
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's shops. Whiskey is better overall.

2279
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like I've said it before, it's like,

2280
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 3: if someone gave it this yusic, if you were like

2281
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 3: a whiskey connoisseur and someone gave you Proper twelve, you

2282
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 3: just chuck it in the garbage, like it doesn't do

2283
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 3: anything for you. But if you're at a party and

2284
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 3: someone rolls up with it and you've got some cokes

2285
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 3: in the fridge, you're like, yeah, we can work with that,

2286
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 3: we can work with it.

2287
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like if you got coke, it's great,

2288
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 2: it's fantastic.

2289
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't drink it.

2290
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't drink it like you're not sipping Proper twelve

2291
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 3: for like its deliciousness.

2292
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 2: You drink it because it pairs great with coke. That's

2293
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 2: why you're doing it, all right, Luke. Eddie Alvarez, his

2294
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 2: wife almost won the weekend? Did you the screaming during

2295
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Eddie's fight with Mendez?

2296
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Listening on this, I don't know why people are like

2297
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: just finding out about this. She's been doing this his

2298
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: entire career.

2299
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but dude, she really sounded like she was getting

2300
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 2: stabbed for five rounds.

2301
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna say it one more time. She's

2302
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: been doing this audibly his entire career.

2303
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 2: We got it, We got it, thank you. Sorry looking

2304
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 2: the catch, look at the carry, trying to well that

2305
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: didn't work out his playing, Luke, But she did scream

2306
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 2: really loud during that clip.

2307
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: And but I'll have to take your word for it.

2308
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Great job, yeahiss, she would.

2309
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 2: I guess we fell apart there. Hey, Luke, it's combat

2310
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 2: sports karaoke time, all right. You know David Morrell Junior, right,

2311
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 2: the unbeaten super middleweight secondary title holder. He was on

2312
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 2: the Designed Boxing show in Vegas ahead of that fight

2313
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 2: he had with Ac and Barack. Let's check this.

2314
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 4: Out, well, spit some spit, some bars, some bars, some lyrics,

2315
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 4: get real quick quick, come.

2316
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 2: On, come on, let's go.

2317
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 1: Hey dem gay, look you get it. Hey, we're gonna

2318
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 1: get that with so Yeah, Hey.

2319
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 2: Away hot, you go spit bars too. Look guaranteed whatever

2320
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 2: song that was, it plays in your house, guaranteed, guaranteed.

2321
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 4: Bro.

2322
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 3: There's these guys in Columbia, especially in Cards of Hanna.

2323
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 3: Here's their bit right, like we gotta remember like Latin America,

2324
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 3: is a is a mix between the first and third world.

2325
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 3: So like you can be walking down this really nice

2326
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 3: place with all these nice restaurants and these dudes panhandling outside.

2327
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 3: There's a crop of guys that what they do is

2328
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 3: they bring a beat box with him and it'll play

2329
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 3: like Little John in It or whatever, and then they

2330
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 3: come up to you and then they freestyle in front

2331
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 3: of you, like they'll get your name. Let's be like,

2332
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 3: where are you from, what's your name? And you tell

2333
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 3: them and then they start freestyle and then they'll incorporate

2334
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 3: that in the freestyle and then they'll be like, yo,

2335
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 3: pay me twenty bucks for this.

2336
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do that in New York City. They put

2337
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 2: a CD in your hand, Luke, and they say it's free,

2338
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 2: but then they follow you down the sidewalk and then

2339
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 2: the threat in your life and it's it's so uncomfortable.

2340
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 2: If you get all the way at the end of

2341
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 2: that equation, I'll tell you that much, all right. Second

2342
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,440
Speaker 2: contestant on Combat KARAOKEI Luke is the uh the TKZ.

2343
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: He's on Korean TV. Let's go to it, Wanda.

2344
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 1: He's a.

2345
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 4: Nice say yeah too, Logy City Mande keep.

2346
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 2: Toog I've had enough of that. It is nice to

2347
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 2: hear that somebody so hard coming out so soft, Luke

2348
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 2: for the ladies like TKZ did shout out.

2349
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 3: To Hey, he's just walking a path that many Pacia

2350
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 3: laid for him to be right about that.

2351
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 2: That's a great point, Luke. I know in high school,

2352
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 2: instead of chasing chicks, you were doing scientific experiments. Probably, right,

2353
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 2: that's fair. That's a fair statement.

2354
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: Nah, dependent on the year, dependent on the year.

2355
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 2: All right, you ever, you ever take the mentos coke challenge,

2356
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 2: but then bring it into the bathroom. Let's watch this.

2357
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Incredible We're about to look at white trash doing dumb

2358
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: ship we are right, my god, that has to be

2359
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: like computer generated.

2360
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 2: That's the commode at Malka, Luke, after we had that

2361
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 2: Mediterranean lunch that time, Remember I shut that chip down.

2362
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 1: In fairness, this absolutely is my anus most.

2363
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 2: But we've got one more experiment for you, Luke. I

2364
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on all right.

2365
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:09,759
Speaker 1: Oh uh yeah, success, perfect, very.

2366
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 2: Dangerous, but very dangerous one. All right, Hey, let's go

2367
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 2: over to uh. You know, I wish we got to

2368
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 2: get back in the studio more for m K because

2369
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 2: I imagine like you know entrances where I call them

2370
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 2: running through the handshake line into the studio Luke with

2371
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 2: the camera following me, Like, I want to get camera.

2372
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Guys will be on their phone.

2373
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 2: I want to get that senior night feel. Let's let's

2374
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 2: see how this senior night went on the volleyball court.

2375
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just win, baby.

2376
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Ah, there we go.

2377
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 2: It's there.

2378
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 1: Where is this FedEx field? Where the are they?

2379
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2380
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, that's great.

2381
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 3: Can I just can I just point out by the way,

2382
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, let's see war time. First of all,

2383
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 3: this is what they get for showing up to a

2384
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 3: volleyball game.

2385
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean just a life losers, go.

2386
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,719
Speaker 2: Study or okay, that's extreme, that's.

2387
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: Do something productive. This is a giant waste of your time.

2388
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 3: But more to the point, man, I've never had a

2389
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 3: day like this, Like I don't know what your family

2390
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 3: is like. And when I say my family, I mean

2391
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 3: like also my friends too, like my circle around me.

2392
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to just pin point in my family

2393
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,560
Speaker 3: every time. It's been a big day for me. Like

2394
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 3: I'll give you two examples. Right, So the day I

2395
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 3: graduated boot camp was a big day, and the day

2396
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 3: I got married was a big day.

2397
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 1: Also, college graduation was a big day.

2398
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 3: And every time I entered those junctures, it was like, Wow,

2399
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:27,560
Speaker 3: I can't believe a fuck up like you managed to

2400
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 3: successfully graduate Marine Corps boot camp or on my wedding day. Man,

2401
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 3: I cannot believe your wife really settled for you. I

2402
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 3: don't know what you did, but good for you.

2403
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Like it never was I never had a receiving line

2404
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 1: of love.

2405
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you persevered. Look, this is a success

2406
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:44,719
Speaker 2: story of your life.

2407
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 3: I think I just admitted a lot about my life

2408
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 3: in an uncomfortable way that I now wish you to

2409
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 3: move on from.

2410
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, right, let's move on to the football field. Weird

2411
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 2: things happen there, Luke. Look at this fan. I mean,

2412
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 2: when you're hungry and your teams win in you might

2413
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 2: as I'll go after it.

2414
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 4: Right. Is this is?

2415
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: This? Is this cracker eating mayonnaise? Is that what's happening here? Yeah? Honestly,

2416
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 1: I feel like if you do this one camera, it's

2417
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: a hate crime.

2418
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, oh wow, wow, All right, Uh, let's

2419
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 2: go over to Auburn. Luke. You gotta be careful when

2420
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 2: when you want to rush the field and pull down

2421
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 2: those right, watch for the hedges.

2422
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh boy, big b just get lost on the visit.

2423
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 2: Yes, she's not, she's not coming back from that. Wow. Wow, Wow,

2424
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 2: look at that. I think I see the head, Luke. Wow. Yeah,

2425
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 2: that's a BBL crime right there. Oh wow, All right,

2426
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 2: let's keep it going here, Luke, let's go to the Hey.

2427
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 2: You always make fun of NFL fans, But what if

2428
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 2: what if they were like one of us, Luke, just

2429
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 2: a slob like one of us. Look are the Saints fan?

2430
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: Is that you?

2431
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 3: There's one chance this guy is gonna die because he

2432
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 3: rode his lawnmower on the highway without a helmet or

2433
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 3: some things.

2434
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 2: Can you make that same exact face and we go

2435
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 2: split screen hair, Luke? I think that might be you.

2436
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 2: Look at that.

2437
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing your party trick. Fuck you.

2438
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 3: Any asshole who's got like gray in his beard and

2439
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 3: glasses is now me each ship?

2440
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go to the barber, Luke, and spend

2441
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 2: less than one hundred dollars and get that change. In fact,

2442
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 2: let's head to the barber shop shop. What would it

2443
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 2: takes virtually identical? Thank you, Mike. What would it take? Luke?

2444
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 2: To get this haircut for you for one hundred bucks

2445
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: or less next time.

2446
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how. Oh, the the original Ronaldo. Yeah

2447
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 1: that's not very fresco.

2448
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's lame. I mean that's lame here. All right,

2449
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,799
Speaker 2: let's go to the next one. Luke, this is extreme colors.

2450
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: But do they have stupid haircuts? Also?

2451
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:52,560
Speaker 3: I mean that got super I mean, I have a

2452
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 3: stupid hair What are we doing here? Fellows said, hair

2453
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:57,520
Speaker 3: looks appetizing.

2454
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it doesn't.

2455
01:51:59,120 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 2: Looks still looks still.

2456
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I mean this is definitely got his

2457
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 3: car repossessed in the parking lot when this went down,

2458
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 3: But his hair looks awesome.

2459
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, you know, in other countries they may not

2460
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 2: have the same ways and means as our American barbers,

2461
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 2: but they use any tool they can find, though, to

2462
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 2: get the job done.

2463
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, what are we doing here? And we're

2464
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,560
Speaker 1: outside of a dumpster too. Look at that. There's like

2465
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: a family of raccoons in there.

2466
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Luke, I even had haircuts in the

2467
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 3: field in the Marine Corps that weren't this barbaric.

2468
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:38,440
Speaker 1: This is pretty barbaric. This is like seventeenth century dentistry.

2469
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 2: You know that right, there is not.

2470
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: No I think I think the line is that's not

2471
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: a noise. This is a noise.

2472
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 2: Wow. Oh, Luke, we blew up the kimmode at Malca.

2473
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 2: But they they purchased us the lover's toilet to try

2474
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 2: to get us to work on our chemistry. What do

2475
01:52:59,000 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 2: you think about this?

2476
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 1: We could play cards together, we.

2477
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 2: Could arm rustle during that. That would be so gross.

2478
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just disgusting.

2479
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

2480
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 2: Okay, who good time for my favorite segment, MMA Fighters

2481
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 2: in the Wild. Let's hear from Michael Bisbee.

2482
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: Them hold home. Wow.

2483
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 2: Look, they ain't loyal, they ain't they never been right.

2484
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 3: Fuck them hose exactly. I suppose if you're Andrew Tate

2485
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:37,759
Speaker 3: or doing bits.

2486
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 2: Let's go to this sparring session iz he and Dan

2487
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 2: Hooker had ahead of the PADATA rematch. Luke, your thoughts

2488
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 2: on this. It got a little heavy here.

2489
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: Right, Nah, dude, you gotta work on this old Jesus

2490
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 1: or he's going a little hard.

2491
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 2: He's going ham dude.

2492
01:53:55,920 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 3: Hey man, he's making him get up. Also, I mean

2493
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 3: this is yeah, we're getting hate crime territory here.

2494
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 2: This is okay, Okay, okay, wild Wild, can I tease?

2495
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to game bread boxing for a fashion evolution. Here,

2496
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 2: Pearl Gonzales two cards ago or last Time debuted a

2497
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: fruit roll up top made entirely out of uh, yeah,

2498
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,680
Speaker 2: there you go, would would you Luke? All right, there

2499
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 2: you go there it is.

2500
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: All right, I mean, you know the answer to that question.

2501
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: Please please if finally Luke, Former Belatur title contender Emmanuel

2502
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 2: Sanchez showed off his new toy in AR fifteen. Luke,

2503
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 2: that's America, that is unfortunately America. Let's go over to

2504
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 2: the department store, Luke. You gotta be careful when the

2505
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 2: prices are this sizzling and red hot. Right, watch your.

2506
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: Step there, Hey, goodbye?

2507
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 2: All right, there you go.

2508
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, maybe she went dead to that

2509
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 3: place where Luke Skywalker and then other thing went and

2510
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 3: they have to fight the monster down there.

2511
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and like the mirror and then they see

2512
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 2: themselves and then they see like their father.

2513
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 1: And you should have you should have like dubbed over

2514
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 1: Jaba going, we need.

2515
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 2: A soundboard so we can hit that Java. But yeah,

2516
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 2: there you go. Hey, Luca's time to rate that tat.

2517
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: And speaking of Dan Hooker, we already rated his new legs,

2518
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 2: but he got the back done. Did we do this

2519
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: yet too?

2520
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: I saw his back? This is aggressive, Luke, whoa, it's

2521
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: a lot. It's pretty good.

2522
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 2: Is it cooler than Volkov's back?

2523
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 1: You think it's black and gray? So it's a little

2524
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 1: bit different obviously, and his is also a cover up,

2525
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: so it's different.

2526
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 2: I like it.

2527
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: I like it. I wouldn't get it personally, but I

2528
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 1: do like it.

2529
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 2: You've long said your favorite Nick Dias performance is Taka

2530
01:55:58,320 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Nori Gomi. Correct.

2531
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's top two that that or daily or

2532
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: something like that.

2533
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 2: So his all right, Well, some two o nine fan

2534
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 2: loves that fight so much, Luke, they got a tattoo

2535
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 2: of it. Rate that tet.

2536
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad one. That's a two or a

2537
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 1: three at best. Okay, all right there, I can definitely say, yeah,

2538
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 1: it's really bad. That's just awful.

2539
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Luke, let's get high. What do you think Let's

2540
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 2: go out to the desert. I have no camels. Were

2541
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 2: this cool?

2542
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 1: BC? I have ridden a camel before. Oh yeah, oh wow,

2543
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 1: he's just gonna he's just gonna hot box this camel.

2544
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell, look at that camel. Bro I show

2545
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 1: just veers into stone or humor.

2546
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it really is. In fact, let's bring in

2547
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 2: whiz Khalifa, Luke. He's got a firearm that is a

2548
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 2: little different than Emmanuel Say and Chez here. I think

2549
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna be a big fan of it.

2550
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm all about the Second Amendment. When

2551
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about this, you're like, if.

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01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 2: The jan six was to protect these these rights, let

2553
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 2: me let me show up first.

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01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 1: Can you imagine someone in the maulk A crew being

2555
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: so amazing as to do this to us, like unannounced?

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01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: You know how absolutely thrilled I'd be just coming up

2557
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 1: and just showering us with absolute barrels of merij.

2558
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 2: That move was first made famous by R. Kelly actually

2559
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 2: just not with not with smoke, lude Gluke with yeah

2560
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: you're here in town, Yes you are. All right, Let's

2561
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 2: go over to this Cubs fan catch of the week, Luke.

2562
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 2: Amazing stuff right here? Watch this?

2563
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Hey there you go? Oh right, that's gross.

2564
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that's pretty gross. But what a man?

2565
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Wrigley Field?

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01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: I did, I was. I told you before. I was

2567
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 2: there the day A Leah died in two thousand and

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01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 2: one day game centerfield bleachers, Sosa hit number fifty and

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01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 2: fifty one and I took my shirt off, Lucas, I

2570
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 2: want to be a bleacher bum, right, that was my

2571
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: dream in life.

2572
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 4: Right?

2573
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 2: And I got so much sunburned that I had. I

2574
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 2: had like three inch high calluses and I still got

2575
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 2: marks from that experience. Luke, I probably dodged a life

2576
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 2: bullet there.

2577
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: But you know, it is amazing.

2578
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 3: It isn't an enormous indictment of my career that I

2579
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 3: ended up here with an absolute failure like you.

2580
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest about that.

2581
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of my life, Luke, I just

2582
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 2: lived and learned on the job. You know, I'll just

2583
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 2: figure it out. I was like, oh yeah, it did

2584
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 2: work out so well. Finally, Luke, we got one more

2585
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 2: for you. You ever see a loose pussy out an

2586
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 2: airplane before, Luke? Check this out?

2587
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, what the fuck?

2588
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, I want to fly in this airlines right.

2589
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 1: This is great.

2590
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 3: So on the flight back from Miami to d C

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01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 3: from UH returning from vacation, a lady brought a cat

2592
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 3: on the flight.

2593
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 1: Now, she didn't let it roam like this fucking stray animal.

2594
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 1: But that poor thing was you know.

2595
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 3: How cats have like a different if you ever own

2596
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 3: a cat, you know they have very different meals from

2597
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 3: different things in their experience. And it was doing this

2598
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 3: version whoa, whoa, you know what I'm talking about when

2599
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:29,879
Speaker 3: like they're very worried and like stressed.

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01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 1: Uh it did that all two and a half hours.

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01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not fun. I'd like, do you are you

2602
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,839
Speaker 2: into this new phenomenon of like these like coffee houses

2603
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 2: that have cats running wild in them and you.

2604
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: Have like Japanese have been doing that for a long time, right.

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01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 2: I love it.

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01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 2: They have this place in Connecticut out in the boondocks

2608
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 2: and my family hates it and they won't come again

2609
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 2: with me. But it's a retirement home for cats of

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01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 2: rich people who put into their their living will that

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 2: they would pay for the cat to live out the

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02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: rest of its life. So it's like a farm for cats,

2613
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 2: widowed cats right of their owners. And dude, like, you

2614
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 2: just go into these houses and there's like fifty cats

2615
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 2: all around. You just pay a donation and you get

2616
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 2: to go in and you can like hang out with

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02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 2: the cats. I love it, Luke. I mean I think

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02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 2: it's the best, right, they got a senior wing to.

2619
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, my family is like, this is creepy and

2620
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 2: it smells like pee. But I mean both they're true.

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02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 2: But I enjoy that, Luke. I like to give back

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02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 2: to the community.

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02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 3: All right, So next time you come to DC, like

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02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:33,000
Speaker 3: I normally, I like, never go to Georgetown again. This

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02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 3: past is yesterday. Mom, I was like, Hey, you want

2626
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 3: to go to Georgetown for the French outdoor market.

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02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm not.

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02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 3: I'm not going to Georgetown ever if I don't have

2629
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 3: a reason to. But they have a new cafe there

2630
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 3: called Crumbs and Whiskers. Yeah, and it's a cat cafe,

2631
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 3: except all the cats are there to be adopted. You

2632
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:51,120
Speaker 3: can adopt any of the cat.

2633
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 2: Can we should go do a room service diaries from

2634
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 2: there or something?

2635
02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 1: Looky? Yeah, I think it's a like a'm in thirtieth

2636
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 1: So it's like right at the edge of Georgetown, maybe

2637
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 1: a bit further along.

2638
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's time quality doc content waiting to happen.

2639
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 2: If we still had a documentary team, Luke, yeah, yeah.

2640
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 1: What happened with that? I mean, we're lucky to We're

2641
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 1: lucky to get dms with donks posts up.

2642
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we got it done. Though, we got

2643
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 2: it done. Hey, this is a pretty decent show, Luke.

2644
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:21,280
Speaker 2: When I get to bang our listeners for two hours,

2645
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm always pretty happy, you know what I mean.

2646
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 1: I love doing Monday Show is my favorite show.

2647
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 3: I love Monday Show. It's by Friday, I've kind of

2648
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 3: checked out, but I canna be honest.

2649
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're a chick earlier in the week, but

2650
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 2: that's all right.

2651
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 1: But Monday, I'm all in. I'm all in. Let's remind

2652
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 1: everyone follow us on all the socials. Hey, follow us

2653
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Why don't you give us some run there?

2654
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 3: But you can follow us on TikTok, on Instagram, on

2655
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 3: a bunch of different places, Morning Combat, and then of

2656
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 3: course you can follow me and BC wherever you like.

2657
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:50,839
Speaker 2: You cameo dot com, slash Brian Campbell, Luke. Everyone everyone's

2658
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 2: doing it, you know what I mean?

2659
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: It's great.

2660
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 3: I should have paid you for one for two Ky's

2661
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 3: fourth birthday. By the way, I paid for a party

2662
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 3: that was absolutely a gigantic way.

2663
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 1: Here's what I would have done with that.

2664
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 2: Did you get a clown? Did you get a damn clown?

2665
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 1: Nod. If we'd gotten a clown, it would have been

2666
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:06,160
Speaker 1: like insanely expensive.

2667
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 3: It was too stupidly expensive as it was. I should

2668
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 3: have taken the money that I spent and just set

2669
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 3: it on fire and then made a TikTok video and

2670
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 3: then I've been I'd have been way happier.

2671
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 2: I would have worked your party for free as the clown, Luke.

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02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 2: That'd be great.

2673
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 3: I would don't have to pay for your travel, and

2674
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:24,240
Speaker 3: then I don't want to do that. Anyway, it was,

2675
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 3: it was had a great time.

2676
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 2: But you know you should do You should have a

2677
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 2: kid's jiu jitsu party, bringing Ryan Hall to be like

2678
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 2: the party host, since you lived near him, and like,

2679
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 2: you know, your wife used to roll with Roxy Motifurri, Luke.

2680
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,800
Speaker 2: If this is not foreign, you got to get tukey

2681
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 2: up to tune on the real arts, right.

2682
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: Most of these jiu jitsu places in town, don't think

2683
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 1: we haven't looked. We've looked. Most of them require your

2684
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: kid to be five, so it's not like she has

2685
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 1: she is bigger. She is bigger. But anyway, I wasted

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02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:01,000
Speaker 1: a shipload of money on Saturday, and I'll never do

2687
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 1: that again.

2688
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:04,160
Speaker 2: But you'll never get that money back, dude, But you know,

2689
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 2: the good news is took He might remember one memory

2690
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 2: from this party, that's.

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02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, here was here was the win. My

2692
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 3: wife put me in charge of catering. Now, BC, you

2693
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 3: gotta remember, you gotta make you got to You can

2694
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 3: only have food that like three and four year olds

2695
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 3: will eat. So that's not that's a narrow amount. But

2696
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 3: here's what I did. I catered Chick fil A and

2697
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 3: I catered a local pizza joint called Liedos Litos Pizza.

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Speaker 1: They make square pizzas. That's pretty that's a I feel

2699
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 1: like that's a win. I feel like that's a win.

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Speaker 2: Did you consider going to that pizza place that was

2701
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 2: caught up in that political uh?

2702
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:43,000
Speaker 3: And uh oh comet ping pong? Yeah you mean, do

2703
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 3: you mean the place where there's absolutely nothing going on

2704
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 3: except yeah, yeah, that one.

2705
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 1: That one there.

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Speaker 3: It's a fine place, but it's on the other I

2707
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 3: don't live near there. I live a way on the

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02:03:51,040 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 3: other side of town, so I don't really just I

2709
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 3: don't get over there very often.

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02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 1: So I just went to the places near me.

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Speaker 3: That's all all right, all right, BC, let's remind everyone

2712
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Speaker 3: Rashad RSD Tomorrow, Room Service Diaries, Rashadavan eleven am in

2713
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:08,320
Speaker 3: the East BC.

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Speaker 1: Is it your favorite that we've done or what would

2715
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:10,600
Speaker 1: you say?

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02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Either that or Annik And then again, I really

2717
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:16,920
Speaker 2: like Paul Craig. It's on that level at the very least. Okay,

2718
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:18,640
Speaker 2: and by the way, we still got that Phil deru

2719
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 2: one I hope we come up with pretty soon as well.

2720
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun too, so you're on

2721
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 2: a great role. But yeah, the rashod one, dude. I've

2722
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 2: worked with Rashad in podcast form and different versions for

2723
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of years. I love how freaking honest he

2724
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:33,400
Speaker 2: is about the ups and downs, the good, the bad,

2725
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 2: the ugly, the rise and fall of men. He has

2726
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:39,560
Speaker 2: a new perspective on life, obviously from embracing the toad

2727
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 2: looking side of this world. Luke and we two talk

2728
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:44,720
Speaker 2: to him about that. But to hear him go, you know,

2729
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 2: he plays the hits. To hear him go fight by

2730
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 2: fight on the big moments and really retell the story

2731
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 2: of where he was and how he got there. It's

2732
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:56,080
Speaker 2: great stuff. Man, that guy's fantastic. I love me. I mean,

2733
02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 2: is there anybody that don't that doesn't like Rashad Evans, Luke.

2734
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 3: John Jones for a time, but even they I think

2735
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:06,640
Speaker 3: he buried the hatchet, so yeah, yeah they did, so

2736
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 3: that'll be out tomorrow. And then as well, we did

2737
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 3: a Henry Shudo resume review. Really had a good time

2738
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 3: with this one. Really, let's be fair. Well, he's just

2739
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 3: got I mean he went from Olympians, so they didn't

2740
02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 3: make the team, couldn't even make the Olympic team basically

2741
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve. Has this really actually inauspicious beginning in

2742
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 3: MMA and did really well up until he faced some

2743
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:32,400
Speaker 3: losses and then transformed himself and then retired right at

2744
02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 3: this like brilliant peak he had, and now he's coming

2745
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 3: back at thirty six. It's like this amazing, amazing, totally

2746
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:40,200
Speaker 3: unique run that he's had.

2747
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Speaker 1: It's it's a great story to tell and I'm glad we.

2748
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 2: Will be obviously breaking down that fight the rest of

2749
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,760
Speaker 2: this Week one Championship on Friday. Big interviews you can

2750
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 2: get at YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat, Demitrius Johnson,

2751
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 2: Ace Franklin, Rich Franklin the vice president of won So

2752
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 2: Big Week, Luke Big Week again, as always, we got

2753
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 2: Canelo this weekend, we got UFC pay per view. It's

2754
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 2: gonna be a fun one, all right, get fired up.

2755
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Candela pay per view USC all kinds of stuff.

2756
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 3: So thank you guys so much for watching. A reminder,

2757
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:09,480
Speaker 3: Showtime dot com is the label that pays Showtime dot com.

2758
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:11,040
Speaker 1: Three today free trophy. Like it, you can keep it.

2759
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 3: If not, you can bounce email the show Morning Combat

2760
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. Thanks to Malka and the Showtime staff.

2761
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:20,080
Speaker 3: Thanks to Mikey Morms and CBS and everyone there. Thanks

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Speaker 3: to everyone who worked on the show Big thanks to

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Speaker 3: BC and whatnot. We got content for you tomorrow. Don't

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Speaker 3: go anywhere. We got merch available as well.

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Speaker 2: And shout out to Chuck Mindenhall's hats, the midlife crisis hats,

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Speaker 2: you can get them on the myth dot com and

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Speaker 2: my thh I wear one, but I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: take his look, Luke. You see Sean Shelby wearing this

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Speaker 2: on Saturday too.

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Speaker 1: And like five guys sitting next to him, all wearing Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's going out of cool style already. So

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Speaker 2: I got to find another lame midlife crisis. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't like to I don't like that title, because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, am I really mid halfway through it? But statistically,

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Speaker 2: look I'm halfway there, right, more than halfway? Whoa, look

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Speaker 2: at this? Wow, Peaky Blinders is back.

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Speaker 4: Look at this.

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Speaker 2: This is great.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just with an Australian accent one more time.

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Speaker 3: It'd be a complete American asshole like this. That's not

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Speaker 3: any This is any dude.

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Speaker 2: We look like we were about to go bird watching

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Speaker 2: on an HBO a real sports special with Arial narrating it.

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Speaker 1: Right, we're the ugliest gay couple ever. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: really what we are, Just absolutely atrocious.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm a dashing gay man.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, you think you're a dashing

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Speaker 1: you're the ugliest gay man. I know that's what you are.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to point that up. All Right, we're

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Speaker 1: done here, show's over. That's Brian. Thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for watching it. Until next time, all your games

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Speaker 1: be loyal