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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It's that time

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Speaker 2: you been watching the NFL Draft and the giddiness every

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Speaker 2: time there's a draft pick, high fives, hugs all the

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Speaker 2: way around. You know, there's a story of an old

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Speaker 2: football coach who was in his first year and he

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Speaker 2: was told by the president of the team to look

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Speaker 2: in the top left drawer of his desk in his office.

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Speaker 2: There were three envelopes and he was advised to open

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Speaker 2: the envelopes only if he had a bad season. Don't

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Speaker 2: open the envelopes until you have a bad season. They

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Speaker 2: were numbered one, two, and three. Well, right out of

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Speaker 2: the gate they come out and they were five and

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Speaker 2: twelve their first year. So he opened up the first

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Speaker 2: envelope and it simply said blame the assistant coaches. Second

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Speaker 2: year rolled around they weren't much better. They were six

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Speaker 2: and eleven. He opened up the second envelope, and it

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Speaker 2: simply said, blame the draft choices. Third year rolled around,

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Speaker 2: and they had a terrible year. They were three and fourteen.

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Speaker 2: He opened up the third envelope, and it merely said,

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Speaker 2: prepare three envelopes. In a draft that saw fourteen straight

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Speaker 2: offensive players picked to get the ball rolling, six of

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Speaker 2: the first twelve were quarterbacks. Four of the first eight

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Speaker 2: were quarterbacks, Hope springs eternal. And while Hope springs eternal,

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Speaker 2: let me remind you, and I don't need to be

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Speaker 2: a killjoy, but facts as facts, ma'am. In the modern

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Speaker 2: era of the NFL draft, since nineteen sixty seven, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty quarterbacks have been selected in the first round,

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Speaker 2: but only sixty one of those that's about forty six

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Speaker 2: percent won a single playoff game as a starter, according

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Speaker 2: to NFL research. And by the way, fifty eight of

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Speaker 2: those quarterbacks about forty four percent, garnered Pro Bowl honors. Now,

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Speaker 2: only thirteen thirteen of one hundred and thirty actually won

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, didn't win the Super Bowl for their

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Speaker 2: original team. Now we're going to dive heavily into this

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Speaker 2: and Tonight's show and Saturday Show, but I've got to

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Speaker 2: get this off my chest, because for about an hour

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Speaker 2: Thursday night, the draft was humming along, relatively uninspiring, relatively boring,

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Speaker 2: And then ish got real, as in really weird. The Falcons,

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Speaker 2: who had just signed their new franchise quarterback Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: to a massive contract guaranteeing him one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty million dollar contract guarantee him one

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Speaker 2: hundred million, proceed to pick Washington quarterback Michael Pennis Junior

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Speaker 2: at number eight. You cannot tell me you weren't stunned,

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Speaker 2: You weren't scratching your head. Okay, come on, what does

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Speaker 2: the team have such little faith in cousins achilles tendon? Okay,

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Speaker 2: remember Cousins just had surgery in November, but no one

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Speaker 2: seemed to be worried about us health when they guaranteed

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Speaker 2: him one hundred million in the opening dollars a free agency.

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Speaker 2: So is Michael Pennix their insurance policy? You draft an

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Speaker 2: insurance policy with your first round pick in the top ten,

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Speaker 2: What the hell are we doing here? I'm really going

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Speaker 2: to be watching this. The Falcons explanation didn't, frankly make

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Speaker 2: And by the way, how you doing out there, Kirk.

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Speaker 2: We believe in you. We call you right before the draft,

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Speaker 2: and at least we'll let you know what's going on. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: Diana Rassinia The Athletic reported Cousins was well understandably a

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Speaker 2: little confused and dismayed and bothered by the surprise. There's

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Speaker 2: job security, fair, and then there's wasting a high pick

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Speaker 2: on a guy who's not gonna likely get on the team,

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Speaker 2: get on the field and help the team this season,

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Speaker 2: really a team that's supposedly loading up for a potential

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Speaker 2: playoff run. The Falcons apparently told Cousins they'd be drafting

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Speaker 2: Now thanks to the Pennix pick. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: here's the byproduct, the domino start to fall. Denver Sean Payton, Well,

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Speaker 2: he gets to escape some scrutiny for picking Bo next

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Speaker 2: at number twelve. It's a huge reach on all the

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Speaker 2: mock draft boards. I'm the only guy in the Western

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Speaker 2: with that. Denver. We'll have Chad Anderson Denver on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 2: Although I hear that Sean Payton has a man crush

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Speaker 2: not hyperbole to say these two picks, Michael Pennix and

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks are potentially very historic moments for both franchises.

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Speaker 2: Right now, they look like possible busts. Okay, we don't

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Speaker 2: know for a while. I'm not going to pin those

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Speaker 2: tell me these picks really make sense. I get it.

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is thirty five, five years old coming off

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Speaker 2: of torn achilles tended, but Atlanta still has him signed

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Speaker 2: through twenty twenty seven. Now, the linked to Cousins contract

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Speaker 2: does overlap with you AMOUNTI years the team will have

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Speaker 2: for Penix rights, but Atlanta will also have a fifth

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Speaker 2: year option for Penix on twenty twenty eight. And the

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Speaker 2: only thing I can rationalize this is the only thing

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Speaker 2: I can rationalize, is one if Kirk Cousins, God forbid,

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Speaker 2: got hurt this season. But now the NFL is what

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Speaker 2: I call the now Football League. It's the NFL now

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Speaker 2: forget later football league, because your first round pick should

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Speaker 2: year starter with Pro Bowl expectations. Now, I covered in

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Speaker 2: from ninety eight to eight, and I'll say this about that.

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Speaker 2: For instance, when Calvin Johnson in two thousand and seven

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Speaker 2: old Matt Millenier, somebody asked me what I thought about

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Speaker 2: The Lions have needs elsewhere everywhere. You don't build a

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Speaker 2: back to Michael Penix. I like the player, I don't

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Speaker 2: don't see how the Falcons benefit anytime soon unless Panick

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Speaker 2: were to happen, that means something bad has happened to

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Speaker 2: the Falcons period period. Meanwhile, here in Las Vegas, the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: with all their respect, another head scratcher unless your new

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Speaker 2: GM Tom toe LESCo and their head coach Antonio Pirice

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Speaker 2: basically said, what the hell, We're just simply gonna draft

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Speaker 2: the best player available regardless. Now, remember the Raiders last

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Speaker 2: the final three games. But here's the biggest question for me.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders. If you look at their roster. They kind

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Speaker 2: of need an offensive tackle. They need a quarterback. Those

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Speaker 2: need a cornerback and an offensive tackle. There are much

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Speaker 2: bigger needs and every good top cornerback was still on

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Speaker 2: wonder why another tight end. Well, maybe Mayer's injury is

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Speaker 2: worse than initially disclosed. It's a knee jerk reaction, but

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Speaker 2: to me, it's still a very confounding pick. That's my

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Speaker 2: knee jerk reaction. So there you have it. Michael Penix

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Speaker 2: will be synonymous with this draft and we will be

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Speaker 2: watching over the next how many years they're in the

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Speaker 2: This is the organization now, that said by Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 2: and they draft a tight end last year who was

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Speaker 2: supposed to set the world on fire, and now a

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the first round that, if everything works according

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Speaker 2: to Oils, shouldn't see the field this year. You don't

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Speaker 2: want him to see the field this year. That means

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Speaker 2: you either's stinking it up between the hash marks or

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Speaker 2: somebody got hurt. Either way, it's not a good look

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Speaker 2: and that division is for the taking. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: really easier for me to practice psychology without a license.

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Speaker 2: As I sit here, but spot to lie. What are

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Speaker 2: you doing? I just gave all the reasons. Coming up,

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Speaker 2: We're going to take you out to Detroit. My good

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Speaker 2: buddy Dan Leech, former teammate at ninety seven to one

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Speaker 2: in Detroit, was in the belly of the beast in

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Speaker 2: the draft last night. Get his thoughts on some things.

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Speaker 2: And I want to talk about JJ McCarthy too. We

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Speaker 2: don't really know how we he's going to do. I

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Speaker 2: the late great Bill Walsh once used to say, don't

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Speaker 2: he can do. I really got my eye on McCarthy

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Speaker 2: from what I know and what I've seen, and I

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Speaker 2: know you've got to take a leap of faith. But

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Speaker 2: Bill Walsh drafted a guy back in nineteen seventy nine

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Speaker 2: nondescript through twenty five touchdowns at twenty five interceptions only

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Speaker 2: through five hundred and fifteen total passes. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: the people that selectively listen might be driving off the road.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna tweet at me. I'm an idiot not comparing

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy to Joe Montana. What I am saying is

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Speaker 2: drafting a successful quarterback in the National Football League is

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Speaker 2: absolutely an inexact science in an exact art. As we

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Speaker 2: see time and time again, it proves predicting the future

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Speaker 2: is impossible because well, college offenses and the defense has

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Speaker 2: different so greatly from the NFL level. But we shall see.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun to watch. We'll talk about Dan Leach.

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Speaker 2: He's in Detroit. We'll talk with Dan Leach. He's in

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Speaker 2: and we'll grill it him. Bernie Frattle, We're come to

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Speaker 5: Bernie?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great and I can't believe I was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of missed each other. But next time

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Speaker 2: we will make that happen, my friend. But you are

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Speaker 2: What was it like amidst two hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 6: Listen, there really isn't a party like a Detroit Troy party,

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Speaker 6: And not that that means that, you know, Detroit's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, I hear you, Dan, So let's

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Speaker 2: For Kirk Cousins, talking with Dan Leech, her former teammate

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Speaker 6: I think Reynolds continues to show why he is a

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Speaker 6: to take him at eight and use all that draft capital.

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Speaker 6: I guess you say, you know you whatever, you need

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Speaker 6: a quarterback, take a quarterback, and there's ever a bad

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Speaker 6: time to take a great one. I just can't believe

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Speaker 6: in a team that just got a guy that's spent

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Speaker 6: well over one hundred million for him, is going to

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Speaker 6: go that high in the draft for a guy that,

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Speaker 6: yes he's gonna be I think he'll be really good.

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Speaker 6: But he's not Jane Daniels. He's not Caleb Williams. He

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Speaker 6: was a guy that was looked at, probably going much

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Speaker 6: later that he didn't know, maybe do after J. J. McCarthy.

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Speaker 6: So a total shock, Bernie, But listen the guy. He's

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Speaker 6: a winner too. And if the Vikings end up keeping

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Speaker 6: him and move on for Cousins somehow in the next

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Speaker 6: couple of years, maybe Paddick Hueter is the guy that

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Speaker 6: takes them to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Dan, as always, I wish I had more time,

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Speaker 2: great stuff. As always, we will get you on again

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Speaker 2: soon and you'll be a fixture coming up in this

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Speaker 2: football season, buddy, in both college and the NFL. Keep

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Speaker 2: doing killing it there in the d Dan, enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much Forerdie always a pleasure, and I my.

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Speaker 2: Man, thank you. That is Dan Leecher, former teammate at

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Speaker 2: ninety seven to one, the flagship the Blowtorch in the

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Speaker 2: city of Detroit, and you know he's right there in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the belly of the beast. That covered

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Speaker 2: a lot of ground, so we'll see coming up. The

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Speaker 2: irony to me, the dichotomy is that they saw fit

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Speaker 2: to draft six quarterbacks in the first twelve picks. That's

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Speaker 2: never happened before. But ironically there are major questions on

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Speaker 2: every quarterback, which we'll get you later in the show.

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Speaker 2: But one particular, anonymous scout made some comments about the

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Speaker 2: number one draft pick overall that I can't unhear, and

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Speaker 2: when you hear these, you may be a little surprised,

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Speaker 2: if not shocked. But first, if you had one shot

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Speaker 2: one opportunity to get this sports coverage right where you'd

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Speaker 2: go to our guy, Kevin Wired the chef with the latest.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I love the eminem tie in right there, Bernie

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Speaker 7: Well the.

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Speaker 2: Chef with a rare Friday night of parents.

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Speaker 7: Yes, everybody, not just the NFL Draft tonight though, although

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Speaker 7: it was interesting because six quarterbacks taken in the first round,

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Speaker 7: but zero taken in the second and third rounds, so

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Speaker 7: that was an interesting development there in Rounds four, five, six,

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Speaker 7: and seven will take place on Saturday over in Detroit.

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Speaker 7: As for the NBA, we had three games in the

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Speaker 7: playoffs first round series between the Bucks and Pacers. Game

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Speaker 7: three and this one went to overtime where Indiana able

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Speaker 7: to steal it.

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Speaker 8: Haliburton runs it down.

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Speaker 6: He'll cross the timeline with five, moving to his right

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Speaker 6: with four, he's in the lane.

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Speaker 9: The floater from.

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Speaker 1: The foul line it and put him on the line.

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Speaker 8: Nicely done, Employee number zero.

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Speaker 7: That was the Pacers radio network with the call Tyrese Halliburton.

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Speaker 7: That and one to get the win for Indiana and

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Speaker 7: put him up two games to one in this best

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Speaker 7: of seven series. As part of a triple double that

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Speaker 7: Halliburton had on the evening eighteen points, ten rebounds and

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Speaker 7: sixteen assists. Mavericks over the Clippers one to one. Ninety

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Speaker 7: Dallas now ahead two to one in that series. Luca

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Speaker 7: Dantag's twenty two points, ten rebounds, nine assists the Clippers

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Speaker 7: sloppy basketball nineteen turnovers in the loss. The Timberwolves, for

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Speaker 7: the first time in franchise history, had three to nothing

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Speaker 7: in a bust to seven playoff series as they beat

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Speaker 7: the Suns one twenty six to one. Oh nine Anthony

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Speaker 7: Edwards with thirty six points and nine rebounds. The Phoenix

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Speaker 7: Suns got twenty plus points from their Big three, but

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Speaker 7: didn't get much help elsewhere, Bradley Beal leading the way

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Speaker 7: with twenty eight points. NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs Rangers they

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Speaker 7: commanding three nothing lead over the Capitals after they win

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Speaker 7: it against Washington three to one. Cannucks over the Predators

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Speaker 7: two to one, so it's Vancouver ahead two games to one.

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Speaker 7: Avalanche blew out the Jets six to two. Colorado leads

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Speaker 7: this series two to one, and the Oilers demolished the

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Speaker 7: Kings in Los Angeles six to one. It is Edmonton

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Speaker 7: ahead two games to one. Back to you, Bernie All right, thanks, chef.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. By the way, in twenty seven minutes from

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Speaker 2: where I sit, it is midnight in Las Vegas, hence

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour, So from where I sit, the midnight

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Speaker 2: hour twenty seven minutes away might have something to do

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Speaker 2: with Reggie Bush. We're gonna take a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a deep dive into that whole situation. So you want

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Speaker 2: to dial him up early eight, seven, seven, nine and

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox. I'll talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 2: that coming up in ten minutes, But first you heard

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Speaker 2: Dan talk about Michael Penix and one other thing too.

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Speaker 2: Before I get to this anonymous scout and his comments

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Speaker 2: about the number one draft choice, there is one big

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Speaker 2: question about Michael Penis. He does have an injury history.

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Speaker 2: He turns twenty four in a couple of weeks, which

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Speaker 2: to me is not that's been overblown. He's not turning

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Speaker 2: forty four, turning twenty four. But Michael Penix separated his

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Speaker 2: left throwing shoulder in twenty twenty one. He tore his

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Speaker 2: right ACL back in twenty eighteen, and in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: He dislocated his right non throwing shoulder in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: so you have two ACL tears. Is left throwing shoulder

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Speaker 2: separated and a tear in his right throwing shoulder. That's

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Speaker 2: a lot. Now from a pure skill standpoint, he's one

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Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks on the board, great arm strength.

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Speaker 2: There was a beautiful deep ball. But if you don't

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Speaker 2: think durability is a question and why that was the

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Speaker 2: reason why Michael Pennix was projected to go much lower

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Speaker 2: than number eight. Look, I bet you haven't noticed. Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow has been hurt all four years he's been in

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Speaker 2: the league. So this is a tough leak to survive in.

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Speaker 2: That is part of this equation. Clearly the Falcons wanted

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Speaker 2: a successor at some point to their Kirk Cousins one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty million dollar man. But this was just

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Speaker 2: a surprise to me, the biggest surprise of the draft.

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Speaker 2: It'll be the be a surprise of the draft, a

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Speaker 2: very unconventional move. Terry Final said he was going to

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Speaker 2: take the best player available. Quote for us makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: You want that first round draft pick to get on

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Speaker 2: the field now and be, you know, pencil him in

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Speaker 2: as a five to seven year starter being all Pro. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I've beat that up enough. There's going to be lots

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Speaker 2: of conjecture and Tonight's show and Saturday show having to

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Speaker 2: do with the comments, the questions, and all of the

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Speaker 2: post analysis. Now that these gentlemen have technically begun their

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Speaker 2: professional careers, but this one anonymous scout had some very

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Speaker 2: crazy things to say about Caleb Williams. And you've heard

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Speaker 2: me say before. It's against the law of practice psychology

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Speaker 2: without a license. And I don't know who made these statements.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he does have a psychology license. But the bottom

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Speaker 2: line is, with about thirty six hours to go before

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft, one particular scout really quotquestion whether or

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Speaker 2: not Caleb Williams should be the cleared number one overall pick.

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Speaker 2: According to a gentleman named Bruce Feldman, he puts out

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Speaker 2: this thing called the NFL Draft Confidential File. There were

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Speaker 2: scouts thats questioned Caleb williams readiness NFL readiness as a person,

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Speaker 2: not as a player, as a person. That's why I said,

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Speaker 2: it's against a lot of practic psychology without a license.

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Speaker 2: There were some very some very choice quotes. Let's put

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Speaker 2: it that way. One particular scout said, quote, I think

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Speaker 2: Caleb has a chance to be very good, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure about the wiring. For me, it's how motivated

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Speaker 2: is he to just win? Okay? How could you know that? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Another scout quote, he gives off a Russell Wilson vibe

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Speaker 2: with this lack of self awareness, like I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: above everybody. Well, Russell Wilson did win a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: and could be argued should have won a second one.

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Speaker 2: A third scout said, quote, I like Caleb as a player,

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Speaker 2: but the locker room part of it concerns me. He's

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Speaker 2: going to have to understand the difference in where he's

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Speaker 2: at and how he's been treated to being the quarterback

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Speaker 2: and an NFL locker room. And then there was the

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Speaker 2: interview on another podcast in which an NFL scout is

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Speaker 2: quoted that he's very worried about Caleb Williams crying after

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Speaker 2: a loss last year. Here's the direct quote quote, raw

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Speaker 2: motion is great, but the Caleb thing that was ridiculous

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Speaker 2: to me. That threw up major red flags. I will

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Speaker 2: tell you he scares the ish out of me and

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Speaker 2: a lot of NFL teams too. So there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of conjecture about the psychological makeup of Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: as a person heading into the draft, how do we

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Speaker 2: really know? Was Williams not motivated to just win or

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Speaker 2: he crying because he wanted to win so bad or

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Speaker 2: wanted to win too much? You can't do it both ways.

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Speaker 2: He's already made a lot of money. I get it.

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Speaker 2: He paints his nails. It's not going to matter. If

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Speaker 2: the Bears go to the super Bowl, they'll send him

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Speaker 2: nail polish. And if it doesn't impact us play on

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Speaker 2: the field, which is the only thing that's going to matter,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to find out in about four and

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Speaker 2: a half months, if it doesn't impact us play on

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Speaker 2: the field, the Bear shouldn't be concerned about it. The

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Speaker 2: scouts shouldn't be concerned about it, and neither should you

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Speaker 2: and I. But that's what we do. We elevate people

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Speaker 2: to the highest level and we tear them down. And

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Speaker 2: here it comes. It's just getting started. But those were

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Speaker 2: pretty salacious comments about Caleb Williams coming up. We've got

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Speaker 2: to talk about this. This is a big This is

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Speaker 2: a big deal. Reggie Bush after twenty years or fourteen years,

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Speaker 2: or whatever the hell it was, he is getting his

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Speaker 2: Heisman trophy back. We've got to talk about that. In

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour. According to the Heisman Trust, due to

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Speaker 2: quote enormous changes, they've decided to give Reggie Bush his

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Speaker 2: Heisman trophy back. Is this a Bush League move? Is

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Speaker 2: it appropriate? Is it overdue? Should he have never had

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Speaker 2: his heisman taken away from him in the first place?

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Speaker 2: We want to hear from you. And while we're at it,

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Speaker 2: since they're in this magnanimous mood, now, the NCAA has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with the Heisman Trust. They're not joined

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Speaker 2: it to hip. Should while we're at it, usse and

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Speaker 2: they're vacated National championship at wins and records be restored?

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Speaker 2: And hell, while we're at it, should Pete Rose be

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame or at least back on

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Speaker 2: the ballot? And what about bonds? Paul Merrow, Maguire and Sosa.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a little fun with us. What are

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Speaker 2: your thoughts? Do we have standards or not? I heard

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Speaker 2: one other fox this past week just livid that OJ

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Speaker 2: Simpson went to his grave with his heisman by his side,

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Speaker 2: but Reggie Bush God has taken away? So what are

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Speaker 2: they doing? A grand standing here? Is it's all about optics?

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Speaker 2: So in nineteen minutes from where I sit here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. It will be midnight, and wherever you're at

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Speaker 2: and whatever time zone around the country and around the world,

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Speaker 2: it's midnight in Vegas. I want to hear from you

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Speaker 2: in the midnight hour eight seven, seven, nine nine, six

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Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine. But we're going to dive into

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Speaker 2: this Reggie Bush thing. I'm gonna set this thing up.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen years after forfeiting his forfeiting his trophy, the Heisman

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Speaker 2: Trust announced Wednesday the formal reinstatement because of enormous changes

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Speaker 2: in the college football landscape. By the way, after the show,

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Speaker 2: shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up.

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Speaker 2: If you missed any of tonight's show, be sure to

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Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

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Speaker 2: you get yours. Be sure to also follow, rate and

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Speaker 2: review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

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Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. You'll see the show posted. Right

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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. Mannie and Roddy will

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Speaker 2: be taking care of that. I'm Bernie Fradder. We are

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Speaker 2: Hi, right back on the Bernie Frittle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: up in eleven minutes from where I sit here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. It is midnight, hence the midnight hour. We'll

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Speaker 2: look forward to hearing from you. Eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine six six three six ' nine. Let's set this up. Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Reggie Bush was the recipient of you would call the

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Speaker 2: formal reinstatement of the Heisman Trophy that he won back

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and five because of what the Heisman

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Speaker 2: Trust calls quote, enormous changes in the college football landscape.

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Speaker 2: Let's set this up. The USC teams were epic. The

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Speaker 2: twenty four team blew out Oklahoma, went for the repeat,

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Speaker 2: lost to Texas, but it was an incredible team historically

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Speaker 2: in the annals of college football, and Reggie Bush was

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Speaker 2: a key protagonist along with Matt Lioner. Now, this story

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Speaker 2: goes like this that somewhere along the line allegedly Reggie

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Speaker 2: Bush took money from an agent who had hoped to

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Speaker 2: represent him, and at the end of the day that

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Speaker 2: agent did not represent Reggie, and Reggie kept the money

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Speaker 2: or his family kept the money. We'll keep it simple,

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Speaker 2: let's not get too granular. Jason Cole did some phenomenal

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Speaker 2: investigative journalism on this, and you can find it. So

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Speaker 2: if I could only ask Reggie Bush one question, I

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Speaker 2: would If he didn't pay the money back, why didn't you?

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Speaker 2: This whole thing could have been avoided, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: So he got outed, it got investigated, led the whole

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Speaker 2: other USC infractions to YadA YadA a Pete Carroll bolted town,

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Speaker 2: USC had their you know record stripped, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: and Reggie lost his Heisman trophy, which to some degree

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Speaker 2: I never completely understood because we know he did it,

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Speaker 2: he earned it. I mean, it seems like those two

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Speaker 2: you can hold two thoughts concurrently. But the you know

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Speaker 2: Bush forfeited his Heisman trophy in twenty ten. This was

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Speaker 2: in the wake after several years of investigations that apparently

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Speaker 2: under you know, uncovered significant NCAA sanctions for USC, which included,

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Speaker 2: as I just mentioned Bush receiving improper benefits during his

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Speaker 2: USC ten which was from two thousand and three to

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Speaker 2: two thousand and five. It was part of the decision Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: the Heisman Trust Trust decided to return the Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 2: to Reggie Bush and a replica back to USC. And

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Speaker 2: the good news is Bush will again be invited to

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Speaker 2: all future Heisman Trophy ceremonies, beginning in this upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Reggie Bush had the gratuitous comment personally quite

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Speaker 2: thrilled to reunite with my fellow Heisman winners to be

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Speaker 2: part of the storied legacy the Heisman Trophy, and I'm

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Speaker 2: honored to return to the Heisman family. I also look

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Speaker 2: forward to working together with the Heisman Trust to advance

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Speaker 2: the value's admission to the organization. Okay, yeah, okay, thank

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Speaker 2: you for that. Look, uh, the other winners, though I

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Speaker 2: must say Reggie did have a lot of supporters. The

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Speaker 2: other winners were excited to see him, excited this is happening.

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Speaker 2: And you know there are plenty of the the the quotes,

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Speaker 2: the gratuitous quotes, including one from Johnny Manziel, thank you

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Speaker 2: to the Heisman Trophy for doing what's right. Welcoming a

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Speaker 2: storied member of our history back into the fold. There

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Speaker 2: were many voices throughout this process that stood on the

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Speaker 2: table for Reggie simply because of the kind of human

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Speaker 2: being he is blah blah blah, blah blah. But in

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Speaker 2: their decision making, the Heisman Trust noted that in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, the Supreme Court their decision against the unca

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Speaker 2: and the Austin case, which the Trust that quote questioned

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Speaker 2: the legality of the NCAA's amateurs and model, it opened

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Speaker 2: the door to student athlete compensation. That's when things really

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Speaker 2: started to change, they said, quote, recognizing that the compensation

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Speaker 2: of student athletes is an accepted practice and appears here

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Speaker 2: to stay. These fundamental changes in college athletics have led

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Speaker 2: the Trust to decide that now is the right time

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Speaker 2: to return the Heisman Trophy to Busch, who unquestionably was

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Speaker 2: the most outstanding college football player of two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: He was outstanding. Vince Young might have something to say

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Speaker 2: about that. Who I always thought Vince Young handled the

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Speaker 2: situation very well. But Reggie Bush did rush for forty

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Speaker 2: two careers touchdowns over three season, and he did he

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Speaker 2: was an incredible highlight reel. So let's talk about this.

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Speaker 2: Are you good with it? Are you glad that Reggie

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Speaker 2: Bush got his Heisman trophy back? Do you think it

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Speaker 2: never should have been taken in the first place? And

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Speaker 2: while we're at it, now, due to these enormous changes,

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Speaker 2: and now the college players are paid, USC has vacated

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Speaker 2: a national championship and wins and records? Should that be restored?

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Speaker 2: And while we're at it, legue life sports betting is here.

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Speaker 2: So after thirty five years and extold Pete Rose be

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Speaker 2: considered for the Hall of Fame? Why not? While we're

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Speaker 2: at it, Bombs palm Ara Maguire, Soso. Okay, you get

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Speaker 2: the picture. Let's stick with Reggie Bush eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: the whole Reggie Bush situation? Are you glad he got

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Speaker 2: his heisman back? You think you never should have lost it?

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Speaker 2: Are you pissed? You think there's a double standard? We

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Speaker 2: want to hear from you in Vegas. It's the midnight hour.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk Reggie Bush. Cause you see where I

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Speaker 2: sit here in Las Vegas, it is twelve midnight. I

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Speaker 2: do realize We've got listeners around the country and around

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Speaker 2: the world. You're all in different time zones, but here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas it's twelve midnight. Hence it's time for

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour, all right. By now you've heard it,

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Speaker 2: Reggie Bush is getting his Heisman trophy back. How do

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Speaker 2: you feel about that? Should you have never lost it?

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Speaker 2: Are you pissies getting it back? I don't know that

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Speaker 2: he ever was contrite about. Really what really happened, we

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Speaker 2: don't know, But I do know this. We're in changing times.

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Speaker 2: And thanks to quote enormous changes as cited by the

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Speaker 2: Heisman Trust, Reggie Bush is getting it back. Do we

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Speaker 2: start that slippery slope now? Does se get its wins

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Speaker 2: What about Pete Rose? What about Sammy Sosa and the

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Speaker 2: rest of them? All right, let's take it one at

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Speaker 2: a time. Squad to the phones. Jim in Massachusetts, get

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Speaker 2: a start tonight. What are your thoughts, buddy on Reggie Bush.

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Speaker 10: He should have had it from the very beginning. They

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Speaker 10: never should have got involved in that. You know, what

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Speaker 10: happens on the field, happened on the field outside of

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Speaker 10: the field, outside of the field, along with like Pete

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Speaker 10: Rose and Sammy Solicer and the rest of them. Like

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Speaker 10: Steve Lyons used to say, you know, Heaven's the saints

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Speaker 10: of Hall of Fames football players. You know, So these

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Speaker 10: are just people that never played the game, that are envious,

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Speaker 10: that are jealous, that get involved in these things, like

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Speaker 10: all those guys that were in the steroid era. I

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Speaker 10: mean when they did that testing, they did that voluntarily

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Speaker 10: and nothing was going to come of it, you know,

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Speaker 10: But then it got leaked out or rat it out,

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Speaker 10: and that's how they backed those guys. So you know,

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Speaker 10: you know, the gambling would rows and all that even

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Speaker 10: shole if Joe Jackson way back in the day, how

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Speaker 10: do you bat three seventy five and do all that

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Speaker 10: he did and then you say he threw the World Series?

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Speaker 10: You know, it's just you know, it's just people whine

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Speaker 10: and crying that never even played sports. That are just jealous.

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Speaker 10: And as far as Bush goes, he never did anything

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Speaker 10: wrong on the field. You never should have had his

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Speaker 10: Hesman Trophy taken away. What do you think, Erny?

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Speaker 2: I think it's an intelligent, excellent call, Jim, thanks as

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Speaker 2: always for checking in. Let me respond to it ever

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Speaker 2: so quickly, And I love Steve cycle Lions. You made

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Speaker 2: an important distinction. What took place on the field should

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Speaker 2: in fact stand alone, and I think that's that's what's

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Speaker 2: happening here. They are holding two thoughts concurrently, and perhaps

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Speaker 2: it never really should have been taken away because it's

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Speaker 2: a separate issue, you know, the shoeless Joe Jackson thing,

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Speaker 2: the other things we talk about. We have this moral

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Speaker 2: compass in society that a lot of people, You're right,

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Speaker 2: have never played the game can become somewhat sanctimonious over

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Speaker 2: and I know there's going to be somebody that disagrees

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Speaker 2: with Jim. I respect all opinions. I like the way

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Speaker 2: he laid that out. Remember, don't be afraid to disagree,

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Speaker 2: because the most boring conversations are when everybody agrees. Eight

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. It is midnight. It's the midnight hour.

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Speaker 2: Back out to the phones, Jerome and Charleston, you are

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Speaker 2: up next. What are your thoughts on the Reggie bus situation?

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Speaker 5: Hey, I don't I don't have a problem with him

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Speaker 5: getting the trophy back and everything, because it's because he

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Speaker 5: did earn it. But he does look like a bit

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Speaker 5: of a choose lot.

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Speaker 11: Could not paying that money back of me? Yes, oh

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Speaker 11: to the committee, you know, and they ken they couldn't hang.

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Speaker 5: That over his head for all these years because but

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Speaker 5: but you know, other than that, you know, I'm don't

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Speaker 5: have a problem with him getting the trophies back. But

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Speaker 5: right if somebody gives me money and uh, things don't

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Speaker 5: work out, they're getting their money back. Because his RM's

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Speaker 5: not a deadbeat. You know, I make sure all my

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Speaker 5: bills here. If I owe you, I'm paying you back

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Speaker 5: because you don't have nothing onrmany.

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Speaker 11: But I'm gonna tell you this.

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Speaker 12: The year that.

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Speaker 5: He won the husband that year he had look at

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Speaker 5: the numbers, Barry Sada's had his junior year. Huh thirty

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Speaker 5: seven touchdowns, almost four thousand yards in toll offense. Noah,

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Speaker 5: he ain't the greatest college running back Barry standards was

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Speaker 5: that year.

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Speaker 12: Can't want to hide it.

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Speaker 11: That was just an unreal out of body experience kind

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Speaker 11: of year.

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Speaker 5: Okay, because I heard the guys that.

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Speaker 11: Well, Reggie Bush is the greatest running back I've ever't seen.

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Speaker 5: No, Barry Shadd's the greatest college running back I ever seen.

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Speaker 12: That year he was like he was like James Dames

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Speaker 12: and U Fee was a one man jag that year.

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Speaker 2: Jerome, that's a noun standing call. Before I let you run,

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Speaker 2: guess how much money Reggie Bush made during his eleven

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Speaker 2: year NFL career. Just take a quick get.

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Speaker 5: I would say between thirty and sixty million, sixty.

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Speaker 2: Three million dollars. So, Jerome, you and I are on

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Speaker 2: the same page. Thanks for checking in, Jerome. I appreciate you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you pay the damn money back? This whole

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Speaker 2: thing could have been avoided. That's what sticks in my

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Speaker 2: craw Andrew and Bakersfield always look forward to what you

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Speaker 2: have got to say? Your thoughts on Reggie Bush.

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Speaker 13: What's up, Bernie, Let's make this interesting? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 13: First caller was talking about people getting on moral high

854
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 13: ground who have never played the game. Okay. I've played soccer, baseball,

855
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 13: flag football, tackle football, snowboarded, skied okay, And all I

856
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 13: have to say is those rules of play college athletes.

857
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 13: And for them to say, well, things have changed now

858
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 13: doesn't count because the rules were back then.

859
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: And we've heard the analogy. Stand on the line, Andrew,

860
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: we've heard the analogies ad nauseum. All right. I got

861
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: a ticket for driving seventy and a fifty five twenty

862
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: years ago. Now they've changed the speed limit to seventy?

863
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: Can I get my ticket? Recented? You're not wrong, Andrew.

864
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 13: Final thoughts, Well, if they had reason to take it away,

865
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 13: then I think that it should have stayed away from all.

866
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: Right, Pat, we appreciate you checking in, Andrew. I just

867
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: got a tweet from Homer nineteen sixty seven. He says,

868
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: Bernie revising the standard for Reggie Bush calls into questioning

869
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: every athlete that's run to follow the rules. The slate

870
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: must be cleared for all. It opens the discussion, which

871
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: is why I said what I said, And feel free

872
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: to comment on this eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six

873
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: six three sixty nine. While we're at it, you know

874
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: USC had to vacate their natty and the wins. We

875
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: all know they did it. I mean, it's like the

876
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: Fab five. People say, well, how come nothing ever happened

877
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: to the fab Well it did, by the way, they

878
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: never want anything. Fab five never won a damn thing.

879
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: They didn't win the Big Ten, they didn't win national championship.

880
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: They're notoriously famous, and for good reason, they didn't win anything.

881
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: While we're at it, Reggie gets his heisman back? Should

882
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: USC be cleared, get their whims back, their natty back? Hell,

883
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Pete Rose, why not? What the hell? Let's have a

884
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: little fun. Gilberto and san Diego, how are you? My friend?

885
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 14: Olabernicomosas movie bien he too. They were moui vian gracias.

886
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 14: They listen a couple of things. Regarding Reggie Bush. I

887
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 14: agree with him getting the Heisman back because, like the

888
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 14: first caller said, he earned.

889
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 12: It on the field. I totally agree with that.

890
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 14: On the other day, on the only one that I

891
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 14: will consider putting into the Hall of Fame, it has

892
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 14: to be Pete Rose, because whatever he did, he did

893
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 14: it as a coach.

894
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: That's true.

895
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 12: He's a true king leader.

896
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

897
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 14: I saw him play, and he always he always gave

898
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 14: one hundred and ten percent. I've never seen a player

899
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 14: like him ever, except maybe for one season, three games

900
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 14: for the eighty eight.

901
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: That's true, to the best of my understanding. The sixty

902
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: plus page doubt report, Gilberto has to do with Pete

903
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: Rose's gambling post playing career. So I think if he

904
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: hadn't been sorry calcil tripped with a barciamati and then

905
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: and then you know, the successful the successor commissioners after that,

906
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: he might have been granted relief. While we're at it,

907
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: real quickly, Gilberto, and I know Reggie Bush is from

908
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: San Diego, Does that maybe maybe a a little bit?

909
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 14: I had to ask you listen and listen, Bernie. One

910
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 14: more thing that I want to thank you for what

911
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 14: you did on your presentation and on Wednesday on Ben Maller,

912
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 14: you did you did a segment that brought peers of

913
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 14: joy and remembrance what you were giving the segment. I'm

914
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 14: not gonna give it away because you may do it

915
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 14: doing the show, but it had.

916
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: No no, no, go ahead, tell tell the folks, go ahead, yeah,

917
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: bro to your regular tell the folks.

918
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

919
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 14: It had to do with a GM for an NFL team,

920
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 14: how he became a GM, and that's Howie Roseman. The

921
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 14: way you presented it is reminded me and it's giving

922
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 14: me shields right now because I used to listen to

923
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 14: him religiously from Monday to Friday at five or five

924
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 14: pm on in LA in an LA station and that

925
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 14: and that is the great late Paul Harvey. The only

926
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 14: thing that was missing from that is the rest.

927
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 6: Of this story, right.

928
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't steal that line. Thanks Gilbert to always appreciate

929
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: your calls just for what it's worth so people aren't

930
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: in the dark. Howie Roseman, the general manager of the

931
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles, who I think is done a phenomenal job.

932
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: And I admit he's had some hits and misses, okay,

933
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: but he's gotten this team relevant and even this year

934
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: goes right after their need defensive backfield. When he was

935
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: a young kid in high school, he wrote over fifteen

936
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: hundred letters to NFL teams and he admitted, I've never

937
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: played football. I've never even been a water boy. I've

938
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: never set foot on a football field. But if you

939
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: hire me as a GM, I'll be the best GM

940
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: you ever saw. Well. Mike Tannenbaum basically was intrigued by

941
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: this and said, I got to talk to this kid.

942
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's nuts or he's the most

943
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: persistent kid I've ever seen, but I'm gonna find out.

944
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: So he told Howie Roseman. He goes, You've got no

945
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: chance of ever being a coach ever anything. But there's

946
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: this new thing that's going to be called the salary

947
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: cap Now, this is back in the nineties, so if

948
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: you go to law school, you might be able to

949
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: be a capologist. He went to law school, ends up

950
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: getting hired. After law school, Mike Tannabob didn't have any openings,

951
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: but he called this guy at the Eagles, he was hired,

952
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: and the rest is history. Yeah, pretty interesting story. The Squeeze.

953
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: One more in here. Lynn in San Diego, California. You

954
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: are up next. Good good evening, Lyn, How are you.

955
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 5: Hey?

956
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 15: Good even Bernie? Always a pleasure man.

957
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 16: You.

958
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 15: I really really liked listening to you when you come on.

959
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 15: The insight is awesome. Hey, look I like herschel Walker

960
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 15: best college running back at for my money if I

961
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 15: was a betting man. Also, the NCAA overreacted in my

962
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 15: opinion on Reggie Bush. You can go ahead and punish

963
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 15: the institution like USC College or whatever. I mean, that's okay,

964
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 15: but don't punish the player. Reggie he went out there

965
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 15: and worked his butt off and earned that Heisman trophy,

966
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 15: so you got to let.

967
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: Him keep that. No, you're not wrong. I mean it's

968
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: undeniable what Bush did on the field. And we should

969
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: hold two thoughts concurrently while we're at it. Should us

970
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 2: see get their wins back? What are your thoughts?

971
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: Uh?

972
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 15: No, uh, keep punishing institutions, but don't punsh punning. Don't

973
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 15: punish players like leave the lead the boys alone. But

974
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 15: if if they if they attended that college, punish the

975
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 15: college because they're the one who is in charge.

976
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: All right, Lynn Well said, Well stated, thanks for checking

977
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: in and appreciate it. As always Uh, I like that

978
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: you make the distinction. Uh, the institutions that are certainly

979
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: culpable here, and there were multiple infractions and sanctions that

980
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: are too voluminous to go into tonight. But irrespective of

981
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: what happened and what happened between Reggie Bush and his

982
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: family and that agent, he saw that he did in

983
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: the field. And by the way, if he saw Herschel

984
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: Walker playing the day, oh my god, even as a freshman,

985
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: Herschel was strong enough as a freshman to perhaps win

986
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy, but they were never going to give

987
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: it to a freshman. And by the way, I saw

988
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders at Oklahoma State just unreal. Reggie was unwheel reel.

989
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you another guy that's not talked about

990
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: a lot. But if you just look at his college numbers,

991
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: google it, Marshall Falk when he was in San Diego

992
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: State could be argued, based on what he did there,

993
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: as the greatest college running back of all time. But

994
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: it's like it's like your favorite noodle in a play

995
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: of spaghetti. We're never gonna agree, We're never gonna eat

996
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: she It's all it makes for a good conversation. We

997
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: want to hear from you eight seven, seven, nine, nine,

998
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: six sixty three sixty nine eight seven, seven nine to

999
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: nine one Fox. This Reggie Bush conversation has layers because

1000
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: if there are enormous changes in the landscape of sports,

1001
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: it's not just college sports, it's professional sports as well,

1002
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: with the evolution of legalized gambling, which is coming up

1003
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: on its sixth anniversary. Holler and James, you are up next.

1004
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six six three sixty nine.

1005
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fratto. We are coming to you alive from

1006
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirec dot com studios.

1007
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here to the Bernie Frattle Show

1008
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

1009
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1010
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1011
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1012
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 3: listen live.

1013
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio,

1014
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 2: coming to life from the Tarak dot com studios here

1015
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas and from where I sit in Las Vegas,

1016
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: it is, in fact the midnight hour. I realize we've

1017
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: got folks listening around the world and around the country,

1018
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: but in Vegas it's the midnight hour. Hence the midnight hour,

1019
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: we go back to the phones. Howard and James, thanks

1020
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: for your patience. Thoughts on Reggie Bush.

1021
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 16: Yeah, hollow James would like to come in on Reggie Bush.

1022
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 16: But there's some other athletes I'd like to comment on

1023
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 16: to one in particular named Billy blanks By Blank came

1024
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 16: on the college, came out of the high school. He

1025
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 16: got me some fouble with law enforcement over a Caucasian woman.

1026
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 16: Say it was a racist incident. He supposedly had sexual

1027
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 16: intercourse with this woman. She claimed the rape. He got

1028
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 16: in trouble, he lost his big time contract. And another

1029
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 16: thing about Reggie Bush, why did they you know, when

1030
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 16: they stuck in the Heisman, Sophie, why didn't they hold

1031
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 16: the institution you know accountable?

1032
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: Well they did, Oh no, they did. USC had all

1033
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: kinds of penalties and sanctions, and Tete Terroll left town.

1034
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 16: They were they were to shut up lud have an

1035
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 16: entire incections and they were just to shut everything down.

1036
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Well don't see, I'll never do that again, hollering James,

1037
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: because of what happened with the SMU and the death penalty.

1038
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is with Reggie Bush, are you

1039
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: glad he got his heisman back or not.

1040
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 16: I am happy he got redemption and received what was

1041
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 16: rightfully his Any man that charrectified his career, his NFL career,

1042
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 16: with MLB career and DA career, and get what this

1043
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 16: just what was to observe. I'd rather do that in

1044
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 16: situations when the Willow folks excuse me of a situation

1045
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 16: that I was not even the part of it. I

1046
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 16: didn't even know this crazy woman. I didn't have her baby.

1047
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 16: I want to DNA was her DNA TAKECAD no adoption.

1048
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 16: The agency's gotten involved, authorities got involved. There are some

1049
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 16: tip comes to my family down in a bunch of mess,

1050
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 16: living in a group of them the rest of my

1051
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 16: life living on poorn in comes. You're not to fixed him?

1052
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 16: Coming o, Jay Simpson, come on, get out of here.

1053
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: Man all right, hollering James, thanks for checking and appreciate

1054
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: you listening to the Bernie Frattle Show. We all know

1055
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: that redemption is good for the soul, and Reggie Bush

1056
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: has gotten redemption. Uh, Manuel in California, California's a big state.

1057
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: What part of California are you in? Manuel?

1058
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 12: Know what guard Diana?

1059
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: I knew that my man. I just want you know

1060
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: how you knew you already know? What do you got

1061
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: for me to that?

1062
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 11: Manuel Man change?

1063
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 12: Hey, Uh, the guy's a clown.

1064
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 6: Bush is a clown.

1065
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 12: He never apologized. You know, he's one of these guys

1066
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 12: and nothing's his fall, you know, And you know that's

1067
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 12: been a common theme as we see in a lot

1068
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 12: of USC guys. I mean, what are your colleagues on

1069
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 12: Fox Sports Radio, Petris Papadakis has said that many times

1070
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 12: like that, You know, why didn't he ever apologize like

1071
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 12: he was.

1072
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: In that Listen, hang on the line, Hang on the line.

1073
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: Jason Cole, who you hear on you know weeknights with

1074
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. He's a great guest, he's

1075
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: a long time he's a true journalist. Google Jason Cole

1076
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush and you could read his repartage. That's the

1077
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: thing that bothers him most that Reggie Bush never really

1078
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: was remorse about what happened because to the best of

1079
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: my knowledge, and I use the word allegedly because I'm

1080
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: a wimp. Look, he allegedly took money from an agent,

1081
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: never paid it back, and he didn't use that agent anyway.

1082
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: Continue on, Uh, you're on an interesting track.

1083
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 16: Man.

1084
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 5: Well, you say.

1085
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 12: Allegedly because you're a professional Bernie, but I mean, look,

1086
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 12: the guy.

1087
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 6: Was a man.

1088
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 12: R nd you're a man. Account for your actions, you

1089
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 12: know what I mean, Like, uh, you could state your

1090
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 12: case that they're wrong for doing it or whatever or not,

1091
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 12: but don't start pointing fingers about oh this guy this

1092
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 12: institution was doing this or adding the other, you know,

1093
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 12: I mean, taking it like a man. And it's funny

1094
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 12: to me how this was not on the table until

1095
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 12: some stupid campaign last year of billboards in LA which

1096
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 12: is a farce, which you know it's the USC mafia

1097
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 12: basically putting up money for something feeling that.

1098
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 5: They were wrong.

1099
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 12: But the guy, he was out of line, man, and

1100
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 12: there's no going back. We got people in society everywhere,

1101
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 12: like you said, you were saying a speeding tickets, but hey,

1102
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 12: how about the people in California bus from marijuana like

1103
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 12: you know in other states too. I'm sure there's been

1104
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 12: you know, in the days of prohibition, there was guys

1105
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 12: locked up for that, you know, and yeah, alcohol, guy,

1106
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 12: you know, legalized, So you can't go back as far

1107
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 12: as that. If you screw up in the time, then

1108
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 12: there's a law. You screwed up, you deal with the

1109
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 12: consequences if you're a man. You said, the guy made

1110
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 12: sixty three million. He never offered to cover any kind

1111
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 12: of stuff. I've never heard of any donations he's made

1112
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 12: the se or his alma mater, high school.

1113
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 6: You know, maybe he has, but.

1114
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 17: I don't know.

1115
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 12: I've never liked the guy, and I grew up as

1116
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 12: a USC fan, But the last thirty years of USC,

1117
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 12: not only in the football, but all the other crap

1118
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 12: with the doctors and all that kind of stuff going on,

1119
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 12: left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I

1120
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 12: think that they ought to be ashamed of themselves. The

1121
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 12: heisman to me looks like a.

1122
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: Joke, you know.

1123
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 12: Put a tent around it to the yakty sacks, because

1124
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 12: those guys are a bunch of clowns. Bernie, keep up

1125
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 12: the good work, and he should have never got it back.

1126
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: Man, Well, great stuff is always don't be a stranger.

1127
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: My man covered a lot of good ground there. I

1128
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: do think there's an aspect to this that does leave

1129
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: a bad taste in people's mouths eight seven six three

1130
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: six nine. Let's hear from you, and we are not

1131
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 2: done with this. Reggie Bush thing, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1132
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: go down a different road here in a few minutes. Uh.

1133
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: And right after Kevin's update, we'll go to Andrew in Bakersfield.

1134
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: But I want to read a tweet first from my

1135
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: man spocks Weed said, Bernie, say, what else do we forgive?

1136
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: Sin say everyone else was doing it doping? Should we

1137
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: forgive Lance Armstrong? Give him his wins back? Steroids? Take

1138
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: Barry Bond's astis kawak again. As I said at the top,

1139
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: it opens a domino effect. And now that we've opened

1140
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: that door, what do we do? Manuel am it? Hank Tight,

1141
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: You're up next. But first let's go back to our

1142
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: guy not sure if he had any of Moms spaghetti tonight.

1143
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Wyatt with the latest mom spaghetti.

1144
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 7: Man, that does sound good, but not tonight for me, unfortunately,

1145
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 7: all right, chef so mom spaghetti in Indiana. As the

1146
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 7: Pacers getting the win in overtime over the Milwaukee Bucks

1147
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 7: one twenty one one eighteen, Tyres Halliburton in the final seconds,

1148
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 7: getting an a wine to give the Pacers the lead

1149
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 7: both in the game and in the series two games

1150
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 7: to one, Halliburton finishing with a triple double eighteen points,

1151
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 7: ten rebounds, sixteen assists, Chris Middleton in the loss and

1152
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 7: outstanding performance forty two points ten rebounds. Keep in mind,

1153
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 7: though the Bucks did not have Giannis on the tonight

1154
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 7: Mavericks over the Clippers one oh one two ninety as

1155
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 7: Luka doncc and assists, shy of a triple double twenty

1156
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 7: two points, ten rebounds and at nine assists, and the

1157
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 7: Clippers sloppy with the basketball nineteen turnovers. As it is

1158
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 7: now the advantage for the Mavericks two to one in

1159
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 7: that best of seven series. Timberwolves, for the first time

1160
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 7: in franchise history lead a series three games to nine.

1161
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 7: They beat the Phoenix Suns one twenty six to one

1162
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 7: oh nine. Anthony Edwards thirty eight points and at nine rebounds.

1163
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 7: Bradley be A led the way for Phoenix twenty eight points.

1164
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 7: He Kevin Durant and Devin Booker with over twenty points,

1165
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 7: but really no help from anyone else. In the NHL

1166
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 7: Stanley Cup playoffs, we had four playoff games today, the

1167
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 7: Rangers a commanding lead over the Capitols three to nothing

1168
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 7: after they get the three to one win in Washington.

1169
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 7: Cannucks over the Predators two to one. It is Vancouver

1170
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 7: on top two to one in that series. Avalanche over

1171
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 7: the Jets six to two, so it is Colorado leading

1172
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 7: it too d one. Oilers demolished the Kings in Los

1173
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 7: Angeles six to one. Edmonton on top of that series

1174
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 7: two games to one. In some late baseball action, Giants

1175
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 7: shut out the Pirates three nothing in San Francisco, Phillies

1176
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 7: over the Padres nine to three, Mariners top the Diamondbacks

1177
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 7: six to one. Twins beat the Angels in Anaheim five

1178
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 7: to three.

1179
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: Back to Bernie, all right, thanks chef. Coming up, I'm

1180
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: going to get into why exactly the details why Reggie

1181
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: Bush's heisman was strip. We'll take you back to two

1182
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: thousand and seven, and what got the ball rolling and

1183
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: why the reinstatement take took so long. Let's go back

1184
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: out to the phones Andrew from Bakersfield. What do you

1185
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: got man?

1186
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 13: Hey, Bernie, I want to tag along with Gilberto in

1187
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 13: San Diego and say I became one blind in twenty eighteen.

1188
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 13: So I don't think I've ever seen CJ. Stroud play,

1189
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 13: but your description of him after he won his first

1190
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 13: playoff game, was pretty cool.

1191
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.

1192
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 13: All Right, now I just have a quick question. If

1193
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 13: Reggie Bush took money from an agent and then that

1194
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 13: agent became his agent, was that okay?

1195
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: Well, see he would It would have broken the rules,

1196
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: but no one would have outed him. No one would

1197
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: have this would have never come to light. You have

1198
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 2: to remember and hang on the line. The agent's name,

1199
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: it's my understanding, was Lloyd Lake, and in two thousand

1200
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: and seven he sued the Bush family for three hundred

1201
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. He claimed that the family had accepted cash

1202
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: in living arrangements for a two year period, and then

1203
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: when NCAA investigators came down, he cooperated. Do you think

1204
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: Lloyd Lake would have talked if if red you would

1205
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: have paid him back?

1206
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 13: Right?

1207
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 5: Okay, you're not wrong, You're not wrong.

1208
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: Look the old joke too wrong is don't make it right?

1209
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: But two rights to ben an airplane. We just never

1210
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: would have known about it.

1211
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 13: Okay. So college athletes at that time could take no

1212
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 13: money for anything, right, No, okay.

1213
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: Oh you know that.

1214
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 13: Okay, thanks, all right.

1215
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: Take thanks appreciating Andrew and my man Olympia, Washington. What's up?

1216
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1217
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 5: Bernie?

1218
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: How are you doing? You're doing wonderful.

1219
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 6: So I just think with.

1220
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 18: This, I mean, like you know, him like stealing all

1221
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 18: the money, like like you know, were saying that the

1222
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 18: last call, he wouldn't know. But like I feel like nowadays,

1223
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 18: with like the climate of oh, these college players they're

1224
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 18: going to get paid, I feel like for that, you know,

1225
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 18: being a lot of the reason or whatever, they're like, well,

1226
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 18: you kind of have to give it back because now

1227
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 18: they're allowing players to give money or to get money.

1228
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 18: So it's like it was a little weird he was

1229
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 18: doing it with you know, with obviously getting mind to

1230
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 18: his family. But I guess you got to cover up somewhere.

1231
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 18: So I think some of those things that, yeah, they

1232
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 18: kind of did the right thing here. I mean, like,

1233
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 18: I mean, it's literally the time now, like we've got

1234
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 18: players making five mil in just for being in college.

1235
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: So the bottom line is due to these enormous changes

1236
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: that the Heisman Trust alluded to, you figure time has come.

1237
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: It's okay for Reggie to have his heisman back, correct,

1238
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, exactly, Okay, all right, fair enough, it's

1239
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: all part of the opinions. We got some really damn

1240
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: good ones tonight all around the map. Eight seven seven, nine, nine, six,

1241
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine. For more, I said, it is

1242
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: the midnight hour here in Vegas. We will take your

1243
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: calls for another twenty five minutes. But let me reset

1244
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: this a bit, because I want everybody to understand what's

1245
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: really taking place here. Reggie Bush had his heisman stripped

1246
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: in twenty ten because right after Reggie won the heisman,

1247
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: there were rumors. There were reports that illegal cash and

1248
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: benefits from agents had found its way to Reggie Bush,

1249
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: and these rumors started to really surface and get into

1250
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: the public ether. Part of the allegations were that Reggie

1251
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: Bush's parents lived rent free in a house paid for

1252
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: by an agent. One In two thousand and seven, an

1253
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: agent by the name of Lloyd Lake. His name now

1254
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: became part of these allegations. He sued Reggie Bush and

1255
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: his family for I understand it to be around three

1256
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Lloyd Lake asserted that Reggie Bush's family

1257
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: accepted the cash. They accepted the living arrangements for a

1258
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: little less than a two year period that ended in

1259
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: January of twenty oh six, and Lloyd Lake apparently agreed

1260
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: to cooperate with NCAA investigators regarding this matter. Now, somewhere

1261
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: along the line, it says that Lake settled with Bush

1262
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: in twenty ten. However, Bush never did sign with Lloyd

1263
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: Lake's agency. All of a sudden, this grows into a

1264
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: full blown NCAA probe into USC. And you know, they

1265
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: looked into you know, Reggie Bush as dealing with the

1266
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: agent and the biggest headliner. And also, by the way,

1267
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: OJ Mayo was also investigated. And in twenty ten, this

1268
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: is when it really got crazy. USC was hit with

1269
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: quote a lack of institutional control citation regarding Reggie Bush

1270
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: and Oj Mayo, and they USC received massive punishments. There's

1271
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 2: just no way about two ways about it. USC was

1272
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: forced to vacate the final two wins of their twenty

1273
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: oh four national title season and all of their wins

1274
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 2: in two thousand and five. USC also suffered tremendous scholarship

1275
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: reductions and a two year postseason ban. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the two thousand and four Trojans, as you know, were

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Speaker 2: ultimately stripped of the national championship by the BCS, although

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01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: the AP still recognizes the USC, but most relevant, the

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Speaker 2: Heisman Trough Trust said we're gonna take Reggie's Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 2: away as well. That's how all this happened. That takes

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Speaker 2: you back to two thousand and seven. Fernando las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, my friend. What are your thoughts on Reggie Bush?

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Speaker 17: Hey, Bernie, good topic. I believe at that time he

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 17: was dating Kim Tardashians, So I think he needs some bucks.

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Speaker 2: You're saying she's not a chief. Dat's what you're saying.

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Speaker 17: That's right, Yeah, all right, but you know, I'm glad

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Speaker 17: he got his trophy back. In the NCAA, they like

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01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 17: to pick and choose because you know, if you go

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Speaker 17: back in time, go back, look at Sam Gilbert u

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Speaker 17: c l A.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're not wrong, you know, go.

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Speaker 17: Ahead, Duke University built up at Kansas and others. And

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 17: what I want the NCAA to do is to give

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01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 17: the nineteen ninety five u c l A football team

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Speaker 17: back the title.

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Speaker 11: That's all I want.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know I don't. I don't start start the

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Speaker 2: parade for Nando. And look, you bring up an interesting point.

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Speaker 2: Uh did you have anything else do you want to say?

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Speaker 2: Or was that it?

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Speaker 17: But what would you see la that football team ninety five?

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 17: The issue change scholarship for two seasons, took away the

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 17: national title on the football team that year.

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Speaker 2: So interesting, all right, frenad I always appreciated man. Thank you. Look,

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: it's the old joke about and maybe I can get

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: my man marked the team up here. But there's the

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: old joke about the guy driving eighty miles an hour

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: on the freeway and a policeman pulls up behind him,

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: turns his red lights on, and the next thing you know,

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01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: he's getting a ticket. And the guy looks at the

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01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: cop and says, hey, man, what are you doing. Everybody

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01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: else on the freeway speeding? Why'd you why'd you single

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: MEA cop says, well, you're the only one that pulled over.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mark. You get the point. There are probably a

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01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: thousand stories in the Naked City out there in these situations.

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: But again, Reggie Bush has came to light because the

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01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: agent who was legedly owed the money said I'm not

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: taking this land down. So you know why Reggie got

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: it taken away? Why did the reinstatement take so long.

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Speaker 2: We'll dive into that as well as well as more

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Speaker 2: your calls eight seven seven nine nine six six three

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Speaker 2: six ' nine. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're comedy live from

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Tarreck dot Com Studios. Don't

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 2: go away. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on

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01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 2: coming to live from the Tarrek dot Com studios here

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio and from where I

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01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: sit here in Las Vegas. We are still in the

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: midnight hour. Hence the midnight hour. We are taking your

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01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: calls eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six, six three sixty

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01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: nine talking about Reggie Bush. You're glad he got his

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01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: he has been back. What are your thoughts or do

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01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: you have a different viewpoint? Back out to the phones.

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01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: Dan in Houston joins us, Dan, what are your thoughts

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01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: tonight on the READI bus situation?

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Speaker 19: Hey, Bernie, It's I don't know, I'm torn. I mean,

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01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 19: the hypocrisy of the whole system is it's just starting

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01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 19: to well up, you know, and it's like, I really

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01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 19: didn't like that he wouldn't pay the money back and

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 19: then he didn't show any remorse. So those are really

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01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 19: big for me. But then the I don't know, the

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01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 19: whole system where it's like bureaucrats and then they first

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 19: they decide something, then they're not sure, and then it's

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01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 19: enough to make you nuts. I mean, like you were

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 19: saying about other athletes like Pete Rose and stuff. What

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 19: do you think Pete Rose does every night when he

1349
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 19: sees on MLB and they open the attached a case

1350
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 19: and say win my money and stuff, and he's thinking, oh, yeah,

1351
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 19: what what is the what is the hell's going on now?

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 19: You know, I don't know. It's just the whole hypocrisy.

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01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 19: And then the whole thing. Let's remember two men saved MLB.

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01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 19: It was Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire. Okay, but then

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 19: they and they promoted it because they had done the

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 19: atomic bomb when they blew up the World Series and

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 19: wouldn't do the playoffs, and I mean, they were going

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01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 19: under and if it wasn't for those two guys who

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 19: saved their butts. And then all of a sudden, after

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 19: they used them a while, then they said, oh my gosh,

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 19: you're using steroids. Come on, man, you just you milket

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01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 19: them and then you threw them away, and it's it's

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 19: a hypocrisy, man. It just starts to really just cook

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 19: your brain.

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Speaker 2: You know, damn good call. Don't be a stranger. You

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01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: covered a lot of good ground there. And I would

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 2: just say this that it causes you to scratch your

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01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 2: head for the simple reason that you look at Reggie

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: Bush and he is getting his heisman back. Yet he

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: was not contrite yet if you look at the reports

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01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: and why it took so long. Back in twenty twelve

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01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: of a judge overseeing a different case for a running

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: back coach at a US named Top McNair wrote that

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: he thought that the Bush investigation appeared malicious. All right, well,

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't know about all that, but there are varying opinions.

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01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: Then you get to Pete Rose, and you have to

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: ask yourself, after thirty five years in Goulag, there's a

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: servingy fruitful purpose anymore to keep Pete Rose at least

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: off the ballot and give him a chance to let

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01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: the people speak, because sports betting is legal now. And

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01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: you're right, Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa saved baseball. They

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01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: all had these cartoon botties. We all winked and looked

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01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 2: the other way, including me. I was on the airwaves

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01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 2: back then. We knew what was going on. I was

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: in the locker room in the clubhouse in nineteen ninety

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01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: eight in Detroit during interleague play, and I saw Andrew

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01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: Steen die own my own eyes on Mark McGuire's locker.

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: The bottom line is baseball was being saved a home

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01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: run chase. We all winked and benefited from it. So

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01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: can you have it both ways? No, you can't, But

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: that's where we are at. So it is confounding. Dan

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01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: Good Good points you brought up don't be a stranger

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01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: on Friday nights.

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Speaker 5: Ian.

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Speaker 2: You got some thoughts on Reggie Bush. Let's hear him.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm glad he got it back to be hon

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01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 20: like in the first place. I don't think he should

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01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 20: have had it taken away just because of the fact

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Speaker 20: that him accepting that money, it didn't affect anything he

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01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 20: did on the field, you know, So it's just a

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 20: punishment for the sake of you know, punishing him. It's not,

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 20: you know, trying to fix anything he did wrong in

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01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 20: punishing him, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: And Zell certainly agrees with you.

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01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 20: Yeah, right, he's honestly, it seems like a big part

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 20: of why this happened. But you know, standing on the

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 20: table for him and stuff. But but the thing with

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01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 20: Bush is he's such an icon in college football.

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 9: Like he he.

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Speaker 20: Made so many people, myself included, fall in love with

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 20: the sport of college football.

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Speaker 9: You know, I remember watching him.

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Speaker 2: You know, in those Let me ask you a question, though, Ian,

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Speaker 2: because here's what I think, and I know the listeners

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01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: are gonna hear this and go, come on, man, nobody

1416
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: drive off the road. This is Reggie's quote. Quote. I

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Speaker 2: want to make it abundantly clear. I've always acted with

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Speaker 2: integrity and in accordance with the rules and regulations set

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01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 2: forth by the NCAA. The allegation was brought against me

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01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: were unfounded and unsupported by evidence, and I'm grateful the

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: truth is finally prevailing. Does that sound like an accurate statement.

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01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 9: To you, No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 20: And and the fact that he doesn't feel remorse, to

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 20: be honest, yeah, that does rub me the wrong way

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01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 20: a little bit, just because like it's like, you know,

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Speaker 20: how hard is it to just even if you don't

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 20: think you did it wrong, how hard is it to

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 20: just be like, yeah, I'm sorry, you know, and now

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01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 20: you're getting it back anyway. But but you know, that

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01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 20: is another matter entirely in my mind like that whether

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Speaker 20: he feels remorse is irrele in terms of like whether

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Speaker 20: he deserved to be punished in the first place, because

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Speaker 20: to me, like I was saying, like, he's such an

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Speaker 20: icon in college football and obviously that shouldn't protect you

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Speaker 20: from from punishment and stuff.

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Speaker 9: But it's it's just the fact.

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Speaker 2: That he don get. I think you're right, Ian, and

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: I get. I want to let Kevin Wayne, I get that.

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Speaker 2: It's there are two separate issues. You have to hold

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01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 2: two thoughts concurrently. What he did on the field has

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01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: nothing to do with what transpired in terms of this age,

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01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: and so you sort of have to hold those those

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01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: two thoughts concurrently. But I will tell you contrition and

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01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: remorse school a long way, and I think it bothers

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: people that he doesn't seem to be accountable. And I

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01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: encourage people to read Jason Cole and what he wrote

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Speaker 2: about this situation. Kevin Wyrett, you got the last word.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's long. It's been a long time

1449
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 7: coming for Reggie Bush to get his Heisman trophy back,

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 7: given how things one have changed in the NCAA and

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01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 7: two just looking back on how on how petty the

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01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 7: whole situation in regarding to what players can receive, what

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01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 7: compensation in their families can get for the name, image

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 7: and likeness, especially knowing now that it's a big part

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 7: of college athletics. I just don't think it makes sense

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Speaker 7: for him to not be recognized for the achievement he has.

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Speaker 7: And I say this as a guy who grew up

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Speaker 7: as a USC hater and celebrated to the fact that

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Speaker 7: USC got punished for it. But in the time since then,

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Speaker 7: I have recognized that it really was an unjust action

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Speaker 7: by the NCAA, by the Heisman Trust to one revoke

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Speaker 7: him of his trophy and two for the NCAA to

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01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 7: you know, vacate the wins, reduce scholarships, bull band all

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01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 7: of that stuff.

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Speaker 9: So they erased him from college football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they basically did. Guys, you're not wrong. You're not wrong.

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01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 2: And I guess we can now say after twenty years

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01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: or he lost it.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: Seven, Perhaps it just serves no fruitful purpose to deny

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Speaker 2: him the Heisman anymore. Do I think USC will be

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Speaker 2: having their vacated wins restored by the NCAA. No, I

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Speaker 2: do not. Coming up four hours away from the Lakers

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Speaker 2: possibly getting swept again, I'll give you my thoughts. Keep

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1486
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: ame minus edge Jared Vers from Florida State. I call

1487
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: that out on Twitter. I hate to be that guy,

1488
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: but Peter Schrager said there was no way the Rams

1489
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: were gonna draft defense. He always draft defense. I said,

1490
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, my man, With all due respect, I'm

1491
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 2: getting tipped off. That's gonna be Jared Verse. This year.

1492
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: They're gonna go defense. Well, they need an edge rusher.

1493
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: They need a lot of things, but they need an

1494
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 2: edge rusher. And they got a couple of good defensive players.

1495
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: Braden Fiskey from FSU at all also I saw, I

1496
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: mean he transferred from I believe it was Western Michigan.

1497
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 2: Don't hold me to that. They El's got Blake Krhum

1498
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: and Cameron Kitchens from Miami. These are guys are going

1499
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: to step on the field now and produce none of this.

1500
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Michigan, so good, good stuff, Steve, have we

1501
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: forgotten The Lakers and Nuggets tip it off about sixteen hours,

1502
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: seventeen hours from now, sixteen and a half, sixteen hours

1503
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 2: and forty five minutes whatever. The Lakers are staring in

1504
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: the face the possibility of getting swept in back to

1505
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: back years. I will tell you this is it ain't

1506
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 2: gonna hurt. I don't think it's gonna really hurt Lebron's legacy,

1507
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: which I couldn't give two craps about. I don't think

1508
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna help it either. It's a humbling situation. The Nuggets.

1509
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: You simply have their number, okay, and the Lakers have

1510
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 2: two Hall of Famers on their team, and Lebron James

1511
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:25,520
Speaker 2: and Anthony Davis. They're getting their butts swept. The Nuggets

1512
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: have got the Lakers down pinned. It's like big brother

1513
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 2: and little brother. You know, a little brother wrestled them

1514
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: for a while, got a couple double digit leaves, blew

1515
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: the leads. Lebron, with his usual vacuous words, Salad complained

1516
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: about the referee, neatly ignoring after Game two that the

1517
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: Lakers had blown a twenty point lead and oh, by

1518
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 2: the way, Ad was scoreless in the fourth quarter. Look,

1519
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 2: I'm balanced. It's been a pretty good year for the Lakers. Okay.

1520
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: Lebron played over seventy games, theyd played over seventy games.

1521
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: They got into the plane. I wonder if Lebron still

1522
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: wants the guy who came up with the playing tournament

1523
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: fired Dad it. But be that as it may. We

1524
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: kept being told, well, you know they got swept last year.

1525
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 2: About you know, they're really competitive, it would be careful.

1526
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: Come on, they don't have Denver's depth. They don't have

1527
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: their talent, they don't have their connectivity, they don't have

1528
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: their resume, they don't have their culture, they don't have

1529
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 2: any of that. Okay, but not necessarily backing the Lakers.

1530
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: Remember the Denver Well maybe I am, but Denver is

1531
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: defending champ and well deserved, right, But when you're up

1532
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: twelve points in game one and you're the Lakers and

1533
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: you blow it, you're up twenty points in game two,

1534
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 2: and you are up ten points after the first quarter

1535
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 2: of Game three, what are you doing? I mean, is

1536
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: Denver just toying with you? On Thursday, Denver went up

1537
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: three to zero by beating the Lakers one twelve, one

1538
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: oh five. They're eleventh straight win against the Lakers both,

1539
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, if you include regular season and postseason. And

1540
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: I believe the last time the Lakers actually beat the

1541
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 2: Nuggets was in December, December of twenty twenty two. By

1542
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: the way, yeah, been a minute, been a minute. So

1543
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: what are my thoughts? What are my observations? You could

1544
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: certainly see this in Game three. Mentally, as the game

1545
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: went on, the Lakers just looked perplexed, and they looked

1546
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: mentally spent, mentally spent. They started out Houseifier Anthony Davis, Dunk, Ruby, Hotchimura,

1547
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 2: dunk Lebron James Flush. They were pissy, they were feisty,

1548
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: they were mad and angry and aggressive, and they got

1549
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: out to a lead. That's how the game started on

1550
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 2: Thursday night. How did it end? As the game wound

1551
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 2: down in the fourth quarter, go back, and don't take

1552
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: my word for it. Look at the Lakers' body language.

1553
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 2: They Denver's in their head. D'anngela Russell misses a wide

1554
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: open three and people are booing them off the court.

1555
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: And if you notice Lakers call time out, d Angela

1556
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: Russell walks over there, doesn't get in the huddle. Huh.

1557
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: Lebron dribbles the ball off his knee and the ball

1558
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 2: goes out of bounds, long and short of it is

1559
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: as the game went on. In Game three, I believe mentally,

1560
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: the Lakers just simply ran out of bullets and they

1561
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: folded like a cheap chair. You couldn't do a damn

1562
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 2: thing from behind the ark. They missed twenty two to

1563
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: three pointers, They couldn't keep a first half lead, and

1564
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: the hometown faithful, I think, is starting to get well

1565
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 2: they did Thursday night, really edgy. They just looked at

1566
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 2: this and they say, well, we see this for what

1567
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: it is. We're done, and you really shouldn't be that surpriz.

1568
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is, you start to

1569
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: think about the cumulative effect of what Denver has done

1570
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: to the Lakers in the past sixteen to seventeen months.

1571
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: Maybe I can get man marked the TV up on this.

1572
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a little story. Okay, think about what

1573
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: might be going on in the Lakers game in mind,

1574
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: because the previous six playoff games were competitive, but after

1575
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: three quarters you could see Thursday night that this was

1576
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: going to be different. Okay, they just couldn't do anything right.

1577
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell did make a three pointer when like two

1578
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 2: or three quarters didn't even score a point. Defense started

1579
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: to fall apart in the paint. When you look at that,

1580
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: those are the signs of perhaps knowing in your mind

1581
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: you're done. You've accepted it. Like the joke about the

1582
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 2: guy he uh checked that, a young lady walks by

1583
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 2: this pet store, and in the pet store there's this

1584
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: talking bird, a parakeet, and this young lady walks by,

1585
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: and the parakeet says, hey, lady. She says, what you're ugly?

1586
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: All she thinks that's cute and adorable. She's, you know,

1587
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 2: talking bird. Right, the next day, the lady walks by

1588
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 2: the pet store and bird says, hey lady, what you're ugly?

1589
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: The second day wasn't so funny. She kind of gave

1590
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: the bird a dirty look. The third day, she walks

1591
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 2: by the pet store and the parakeet says, hey, lady.

1592
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: She says, what you're ugly? That's it. She walks into

1593
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 2: the pet store, seeks out the proprietor and says, I

1594
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: don't appreciate walking by your pet store every day and

1595
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: having your parakeet. You're talking, parakeet, tell me I'm ugly.

1596
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: The owner apologizes profusely and says I'll talk to him

1597
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 2: and make sure that doesn't happen again. The fourth day,

1598
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 2: the lady walks by the pet store and the parakeet says,

1599
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 2: hey lady, what you know, Oh darn mark, I was

1600
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 2: hoping you'd have something for me there. All right, thanks

1601
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: think about that, though that's analogous here. By the time

1602
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: the second half ruled around Thursday night, the Lakers just

1603
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: looked different. You don't have to be Fellini to see

1604
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: their body language. They know, they know they're they're cooked.

1605
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: They may not admitted verbally, and I guess you know

1606
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 2: Lebron and one of his gratuitous postgame interviews, we always

1607
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: have to hear Lebron comment, no matter what you know,

1608
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 2: world affairs postgame, he said, quote, we kind of lost

1609
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: track of the attention to detail that we had in

1610
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: the first half. You think, by the way, one of

1611
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 2: the strategies that failed miserably, I think Thursday Night was

1612
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: the later You know, remember the old hackashack when the

1613
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 2: Laders tried to bait Yoki into getting into foul trouble.

1614
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 2: You know what, it worked. This is the reverse of

1615
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: the hack a shack. Somehow Anthony Davis in the first

1616
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: five minutes managed to draw a couple of quick files

1617
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,799
Speaker 2: on Yokick and then he didn't get his third foul

1618
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 2: until early in the third quarter. But Kive Mike Malone credit,

1619
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: he had faith. He never he never, you know, lost

1620
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 2: faith all right, So it might just look like it

1621
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: was going to work, But in the end it really

1622
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 2: didn't work because I don't know how the Lakers capitalized

1623
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: on the situation, because you know, even if Yokick started

1624
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: to play a little passively or left the game for

1625
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 2: more files, the Nuggets were just not in trouble even

1626
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 2: when Yokick was not on the floor. Uh, you know,

1627
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: Denver did they didn't. They didn't fold, they didn't, they

1628
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: didn't quit. Michael Porter Junior, Jamal Murray, Gordon, they all

1629
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: stepped up and that all of a sudden, that's twelve

1630
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: point Laker lead just became ten, then eighth and fourth,

1631
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: and then finally they got to sit Yokick for three

1632
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: minutes in the fourth quarter. And this is when you knew,

1633
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 2: this is the telltale sign for me, the Lakers were

1634
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: done like dinner. The Nuggets lead increased when Yokick was

1635
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 2: on the floor for three minutes in the fourth quarter.

1636
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Look across the floor, you see a confident team, a

1637
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 2: team that has the mindset of a champion, the culture

1638
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: of a champion. Mike Malone sat that best after the game,

1639
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 2: their head coach quote, every time we get down, we

1640
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: don't panic, We stay together. We find a way to

1641
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: get back into the game. Winning championship has brought this

1642
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: group tremendous confidence. By the way, if you watch the

1643
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: Nuggets play, and I will watch every minute of the

1644
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 2: game Saturday night, there'll be a storyline anywhere it's sliced.

1645
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: The pick and roll between Murray and Yokick has become

1646
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 2: a thing of beauty. Denver used that last year. It

1647
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: got him a championship. You got a big man who's unstoppable.

1648
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 2: Think what you want about Yokic. You can't stop them, period.

1649
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 2: And you got this pesky, plucky guard and Jamal Murray

1650
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 2: and they recavoc on defenses. And then you get Aaron

1651
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 2: Gordon involved. He's a tremendous paint presence. He was in

1652
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: college at Arizona and he is in the NBA. And

1653
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: because of what Murray and Yochi are doing, they're opening

1654
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 2: up space on the floor for Gordon. He gets lobs,

1655
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: he gets back door passes, and he just takes it

1656
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 2: to the rim and dunks. And the truth of the

1657
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 2: matter is Denver and watching Aaron Gordon take advantage of

1658
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 2: these opportunities has raised their eyebrow and it's given him

1659
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: even more confidence, by the way. I you know, when

1660
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: Game three started, I kept asking myself, why does Denver

1661
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 2: always start out in this lull? It just seems they do.

1662
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,799
Speaker 2: You could clearly see in Game one and home at halftime,

1663
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: clearly seeing Game two in Denver at halftime, the Nuggets

1664
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 2: were not playing their A game. When they play their

1665
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 2: A game, I mean, if they played their A game

1666
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: from the jump, I think they just it would be

1667
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: it would be even worse. And it started again sort

1668
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 2: of on Thursday night that as we got deep into

1669
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 2: the first quarter, go they're doing it again. What do

1670
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: you what are you doing your home now? Then all

1671
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Denver woke up, the sleeping giant woke up,

1672
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 2: and they just started to dominate. Okay, And it wasn't

1673
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: just Joki Chan Murray. They had four players scored more

1674
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 2: than twenty points. It was a true complete win. Everybody contributed.

1675
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 2: You saw that championship chemistry. You saw the Nuggets using

1676
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 2: their teamwork, their connectivity, their familiarity. They got the open looks,

1677
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: they got the easy baskets. And when Denver decides they

1678
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:52,520
Speaker 2: really want to play defense, when the situation demands greatness,

1679
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 2: they do it. They do it. They're they're five heads

1680
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 2: thinking is one and oh yeah, oh, by the way,

1681
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 2: yok it was very quiet. He almost had a triple

1682
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 2: double the other night. And one of the things Yoka

1683
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 2: gets credit for, certainly amongst his teammates in NBA people

1684
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: in the know, that he's one of the brightest minds

1685
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: in the NBA. He's a basketball savann the way he

1686
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 2: moves with him without the ball, the things he does,

1687
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 2: He's a phenomenal passer. He could do it all. He

1688
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 2: can do it all. So you tell me, would you

1689
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 2: lay money that the Lakers are going to win four

1690
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 2: straight games against Denver, a team that has not lost

1691
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 2: to the Lakers since December of twenty twenty two, including

1692
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 2: regular season and postseason, the team that's beating the Lakers

1693
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: eleven in a row. Oh, by the way, in the NBA,

1694
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 2: if you're scoring at home, or even if you're by yourself,

1695
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 2: in any best of seven series, in the history of

1696
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs, when you go down to and oh check

1697
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 2: that three and oh three zero in the best of seven,

1698
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 2: it's happened one hundred and fifty one times zero team

1699
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 2: have come back from that. Okay, As for which role

1700
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 2: players are going to step up for the Lakers Saturday Night,

1701
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: your guess is as good as mine. And there are

1702
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: already screens about Darvinham. I think Darvinham will be back.

1703
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: Just an opinion. I don't have any inside information on this,

1704
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 2: just an opinion. We'll talk about this with Mark Mondina

1705
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 2: Saturday night, Medina Magic of Midnight. But you know you're

1706
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 2: looking at it, looking at the team that won the

1707
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 2: playing tournament. They're looking at the they're staring in the

1708
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 2: face of not only a first round elimination. They're staring

1709
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 2: in the face of back to back sweeps to end

1710
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 2: the season. Uh, and I think you have to ask

1711
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 2: yourself there is a change? Is there a changing of

1712
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 2: the guard? If you don't know it by now, there is.

1713
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: And and by the way, it's not just Lebron, it's

1714
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, It's it's it's Giannice. If there's such a thing,

1715
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't know about Giannis. And I love the heat culture.

1716
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Celtic Culture are going to take this

1717
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 2: shot at Celtic Cults. They're four and seven at home

1718
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 2: in the playoffs in the last eleven games, and there

1719
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 2: are nine and a half point underdog a favorite in

1720
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: Miami on Sunday, so hey, the playoffs resume. Those are

1721
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 2: my observations about the Lakers and Nuggets. If this is

1722
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 2: a fight, they would have stopped it. We'll see if

1723
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 2: the Lakers can steal one at home Sunday night, Saturday night,

1724
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: just to extend the series. We'll see. Even if they do,

1725
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 2: it looks like we're on our way to a gentleman's sweep.

1726
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 2: We'll be talking about it Saturday night. By the way,

1727
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: shortly after the show tonight, our podcast will be going up.

1728
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 2: If you missed any of tonight's show, be sure to

1729
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1730
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow, rate

1731
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 2: and review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio

1732
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll see this show

1733
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. You know

1734
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,759
Speaker 2: they're already talking about this being in a historic draft,

1735
01:34:54,800 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 2: because well, there are six quarterbacks drafted in the first round,

1736
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 2: in the first twelve picks. But that's not the first

1737
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 2: time this has happened. Let's have a little fun. Let's

1738
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: take a little stroll down memory lane. Friday was April

1739
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 2: twenty sixth. Here we are now into Saturday. When I

1740
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 2: signed on set Friday night at eleven pm Pacific time

1741
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. It was April twenty sixth, forty

1742
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 2: years to the day. Forty years to the day, there

1743
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 2: was another famous NFL draft and there was a big

1744
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 2: time run on quarterbacks, six of them, column six of them.

1745
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 2: We'll take it down memory lane and share with you

1746
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 2: some of those names of which you are going to remember.

1747
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle. We are coming to you live from

1748
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio tirack dot com studios. Keep

1749
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 2: it locked right here you listening to the Bernie Frattle

1750
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on the

1751
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come to your live

1752
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 2: from the tiracht dot com studios here in Las Vegas.

1753
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: Chopping it up. Some thoughts about the six quarterbacks that

1754
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 2: were drafted, not only in the first round, but in

1755
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 2: the first twelve picks, a record setting draft. I mean,

1756
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 2: we started out with fourteen straight offensive players being drafted.

1757
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 2: Of the first twelve picks, six were quarterbacks. Of the

1758
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: first eight picks, four were quarterbacks. And Saturday night, We're

1759
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 2: going to take a heavy, deep dive into the history

1760
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 2: of why and how drafting a successful NFL quarterback is.

1761
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 2: It's an inexact science and it's an inexact art, and

1762
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of data for you. The harsh

1763
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 2: reality is that the chances for success just to get

1764
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 2: to the playoffs much less as Super Bowl for quarterbacks

1765
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: drafted in the first round. It's daunting. It is daunting.

1766
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to cast aspersions on any of these

1767
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: six we'll see, but believe it or not, there's sort

1768
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 2: of an economy and that teams saw to not only

1769
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 2: draft six quarterbacks in the first round, they drafted them

1770
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: the first twelve picks. Yet there are actually figgerly significant

1771
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: questions if you get into the weeds on all six quarterbacks.

1772
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 2: We are also going to dive into that heavily on

1773
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Saturday night. But it it conjures up memories of forty

1774
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 2: one years ago, April twenty six, nineteen eighty three, when

1775
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 2: I signed on Friday night had eleven pm Pacific here

1776
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. It was April twenty six, Well, forty

1777
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 2: one years ago, April twenty sixth, nineteen eighty three, there

1778
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 2: was an NFL draft, and simply put, there was a

1779
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 2: hell of a run on quarterbacks. It was a quarterback hall.

1780
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Forty one years ago. The start of the nineteen eighty

1781
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 2: three NFL Draft featured what would become multiple star passers

1782
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,759
Speaker 2: in the annals of NFL history. Started out by John

1783
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 2: Elway going number one to the Colts, which pissed off

1784
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 2: as Dad, which pissed off John. They said, mister ersay,

1785
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 2: we told you not to take us, and now he

1786
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 2: got nothing. He went and signed with the Yankees. Well,

1787
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, he found his way to Denver, and you

1788
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 2: know what, happened there and mel Kiper kind of ripped

1789
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 2: the hearsays and blah blah blah blah blah. But John

1790
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 2: Elway went number one overall. I bet you've heard John Elway.

1791
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: He won a couple of Super Bowls. Followed by quarterback

1792
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 2: out of Penn State named Todd Blackledge. Sure you've seen

1793
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 2: him in the media, but he had a very serviceable

1794
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 2: career with the Kansas City Chiefs. Followed by Jim Kelly. Yes,

1795
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 2: that Jim Kelly, who went to the USFL was a

1796
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:38,520
Speaker 2: gun slinger literally for the Houston Gamblers of the USFL,

1797
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 2: but ended up with the Buffalo Bills. Went to four

1798
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Can't take it away from him. Tony Easton

1799
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: out of Illinois was then drafted by the New England Patriots,

1800
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 2: was part of a team that got to the Super

1801
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Bowl in nineteen eighty six Super Bowl twenty lost, of

1802
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: course to the Bears forty six to ten. And Kenny

1803
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 2: O'Brien out of E. C. Davis went to the Jets.

1804
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 2: People might have scratched their heads about that, but he

1805
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 2: became a pretty good NFL quarterback. And then last but

1806
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 2: not least, Dan Marino went to the Dolphins, who ended

1807
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 2: up really benefiting because even though he never won a

1808
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he did go to one. And I think

1809
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 2: he benefited because he went to a team that had

1810
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 2: been to the Super Bowl the year before, so he

1811
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 2: had a great roster and he went to play for

1812
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 2: Don Shula, who was a true quarterback whisper. And oh,

1813
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 2: by the way, not only that, he didn't have a

1814
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of pressure. Okay, you don't know

1815
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 2: that Marino coming out of pit versus what the Marino became,

1816
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 2: but he got regardless, that's a pretty good haul. John Elway,

1817
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 2: Todd Blackletch, Jim Kelly, Tony East and Kenny O'Brien and

1818
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Dan Marino. Elways rights, as I said, were later traded

1819
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 2: to Denver always spent sixteen full years in Denver. But

1820
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 2: this is a group that not only shaped the NFL

1821
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,839
Speaker 2: on the field, but shaped the NFL off the field.

1822
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 2: By the way, following that draft, eleven of the next

1823
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:02,520
Speaker 2: sixteen AFC teams to make the Super Bowl were quarterback

1824
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 2: by one of those guys. John Elway, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly.

1825
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they all made it to the Hall of Fame.

1826
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 2: Three of them made it to the Hall of Fame.

1827
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 2: It also kind of changed the NFL's culture to more

1828
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 2: passing centric, and it also put more fans in seats,

1829
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 2: and it put more fans watching on TV, and it

1830
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 2: created certain roots in the NFL that have never gone away.

1831
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: Pluser was a real business impact from those six quarterbacks.

1832
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 2: John Elway later became president of football operations for the

1833
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos and by the way, presided over a Super

1834
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 2: Bowl winner when he got Payton Manning. Dan Marino was

1835
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 2: an advisor to the Miami Dolphins, also linked the run

1836
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: as a broadcaster, and who could forget Isotoner Gloves. Todd

1837
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 2: Blacklitch has become one of the NBC's top college football

1838
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: announcers and, by the way, if one of the most

1839
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 2: enjoyable thirty for thirty documentaries it runs all the time

1840
01:40:55,320 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 2: on ESPN. Was called Elway to Marino, which chronicles the

1841
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 2: chronology of all six quarterbacks being drafted in nineteen eighty three,

1842
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 2: so forty one years from now, with these six quarterbacks

1843
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 2: have the same kind of impact on and off the

1844
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 2: field as those six quarterbacks did in nineteen eighty three. Well,

1845
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to find out. Coming up, We've

1846
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 2: got Chris Perfett's World of Soccer. But first to go

1847
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,799
Speaker 2: back to our guy, the chef, Kevin Wired with his update.

1848
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, the NFL Draft well underway. We had rounds two

1849
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 7: and three on Friday. The NFL Draft will conclude on

1850
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,679
Speaker 7: Saturday with rounds of four or four to five, six

1851
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 7: and seven, and elsewhere in sports, we did have the

1852
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 7: NBA Playoffs three first round games, Pacers and Bucks going

1853
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 7: two overtime tyres Aliburton getting the win on an and

1854
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 7: one opportunity in the final second says Indiana takes a

1855
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 7: two to one series lead, Haliburton finishing with a triple

1856
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 7: double eighteen points, ten rebounds, sixteen assists, Chris Middleton with

1857
01:41:56,240 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 7: forty two points ten rebounds in the loss. Mavericks top

1858
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 7: the Clippers in Dallas one to one to ninety to

1859
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 7: take a two to one lead in that series. Luka

1860
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 7: Dante Chin assists Shy of a triple double twenty two points,

1861
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 7: ten rebounds, nine assistans, and the Clippers sloppy basketball nineteen

1862
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 7: turnovers as LA now staring at a series deficit for

1863
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 7: the first time in this series. Timber Wolves up three

1864
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 7: to nothing for the first time in franchise history. They

1865
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 7: beat the Suns one twenty six to two to one

1866
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 7: zero nine behind thirty six points nine rebounds from Anthony Edwards.

1867
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 7: In the NHL, we had four playoff games Stanley Cup

1868
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 7: playoff games. Rangers making a commanding three nothing series lead

1869
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 7: against the Capitols after they take down Washington three to one.

1870
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 7: Canucks over the Predators two to one, so it's Vancouver

1871
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 7: leading that series two games to one. Avalanche with a

1872
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 7: blout win against the Jets six to two, with Colorado

1873
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 7: on top two games to one. Oilers leading their series

1874
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 7: two games to one after an easy six to win

1875
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 7: win against the Kings. Out in Los Angeles, Major League

1876
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 7: base all some late night scores from the West Coast.

1877
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 7: Giants shut out the Pirates three nothing, Philly's over the

1878
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 7: Padres nine to three, Mariners top the Diamondback six '

1879
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 7: to one, Angels fall to the Twins five to three.

1880
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, All right, Jeff, good stuff. We'll

1881
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 2: see you Saturday night. Of course you'll have another performance

1882
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 2: one thirty am on Sunday morning, Pacific time. All right,

1883
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 2: you're not that far off from the Paris Olympics. I'm

1884
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 2: actually gonna be in Paris in me, you'll have soccer,

1885
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 2: international soccer. But whether it's on the field or off

1886
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 2: the field, in season or off season, there's always plenty

1887
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 2: of report. That's why we bring you Chris Purfetts World

1888
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 2: of Soccer.

1889
01:43:43,920 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 3: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum all

1890
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 3: here in this report from the World of Soccer.

1891
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 21: Well, it took a little bit of searching, Bernie, but

1892
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 21: it looks like Liverpool has there a man lined up

1893
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 21: to replace Jurgen Klop when the man retires here at

1894
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 21: the end of the season. Liverpool has been very popular

1895
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,839
Speaker 21: in America, one of those teams that just screams emeric

1896
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 21: to Americans in a lot of ways, blue collar north

1897
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 21: of the country. Everything about Liverpool just seems to attract

1898
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 21: American fans. And I know many Americans among soccer fans.

1899
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 21: I know who are Liverpool fans, So this story has

1900
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 21: something of a lot of attention for me. Liverpool did

1901
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 21: not fare well over this weekend in their pursuit of

1902
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 21: a Premier League title, stumbling very badly in the Mercyside

1903
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 21: derby against longtime rivals Everton, which now puts them about

1904
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 21: three points coming into the weekend behind the eight ball

1905
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 21: on Arsenal, who clings a one point lead over man

1906
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 21: Chester City. All those due to change his games get

1907
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 21: played here on Saturday and Sunday. But the important thing

1908
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 21: for Liverpool here is particularly in the mid term, not

1909
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 21: as much in the short term where they still have

1910
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 21: a season to go, is that they now have a

1911
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 21: manager to replace Yurkeen Club. Arn Slought is his name.

1912
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 21: He is he was, or is until the end of

1913
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 21: the year, the manager for the Dutch club at Feyanord,

1914
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 21: a club that has kind of really come on under

1915
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 21: his guidance and had quite a bit of impression to it.

1916
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 21: Fean Ord has been in the Europa Conference League final

1917
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 21: in twenty twenty two, losing to Roma, and that was

1918
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 21: the first year of Slot's management at Feyanord, and then

1919
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 21: in subsequent seasons would go on to win the Dutch

1920
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:52,839
Speaker 21: League title and the Dutch's KNVB Cup, all remarkable feats

1921
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 21: for a club in a country, in a division really

1922
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 21: that has been dominated for so long by Ajas a

1923
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 21: super club there in Amsterdam, fan Nord out of Rotterdam

1924
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 21: was able to carve out quite the place for themselves

1925
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 21: under Arren Slought. He has a bit of a job

1926
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 21: coming in here. There's a lot of momentum still to

1927
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 21: be maintained. If you are Liverpool. Questions to be asked

1928
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 21: about contracts for players like big time players like Mohammed Sala,

1929
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 21: and questions about the finances of the club, if they

1930
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,839
Speaker 21: can continue to spend and remain among the big boys

1931
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 21: in England, not having these the same pockets of say

1932
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 21: a Manchester City and yet nevertheless has had a lot

1933
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 21: of success, but not often as much as their talent

1934
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 21: should indicate. They have still of course the title under

1935
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 21: Jurgen Klop and some Champions League' accolades, a lot of

1936
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 21: stuff that I think that Jurgen Klop is well lauded for.

1937
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 21: But if you're new coming in, if you're someone like

1938
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 21: arn Slott, the question is can you live up to

1939
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 21: that legacy.

1940
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 8: It's a big one to lead up to.

1941
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 21: And it sounds like Liverpool is also willing to be

1942
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,759
Speaker 21: giving out a lot of money looking for it about

1943
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 21: like about live around twelve million dollars US according to

1944
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 21: the rumors of what Liverpool would be paying Feyanord to

1945
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 21: get their manager slot with two years left on his

1946
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 21: contract with the Dutch side, staying in the Premier League.

1947
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 21: We do have to welcome back bernie old friends Leicester City.

1948
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 21: They have secured promotion here this week coming into the

1949
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 21: weekend and the Foxes will be returning to the Premier League.

1950
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:36,679
Speaker 21: If you do recall they were relegated back in May

1951
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 21: of last year, so their removal from the Premier League

1952
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 21: is not very long at all.

1953
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 8: Again, good to have them back.

1954
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 21: They are one of the surprises of Premier League history. Obviously,

1955
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 21: of course winning that title back in twenty sixteen at

1956
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 21: the longest odds ever recorded for any kind of Premier

1957
01:47:55,320 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 21: League club to win a Premier League title. And look,

1958
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 21: it's a different team now. They leaned heavily on Jammie Vardi,

1959
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 21: and Vardi is much older at this point. They have

1960
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 21: some young players still there. I didn't even think that

1961
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 21: they were really that bad enough to be relegated last year.

1962
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 21: They just kind of got a bad luck of the

1963
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:20,799
Speaker 21: draw where it came to their points to several injuries

1964
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 21: that they had sustained.

1965
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 8: I thought they were better than the relegation zone. Last year.

1966
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 21: Leicester City hasn't clinched the EFL Championship title. They could

1967
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 21: maybe do that here in the coming weeks. But nevertheless,

1968
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 21: no matter what happens, they have clinched promotion back to

1969
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 21: the Premier League, which is ultimately the source of pride

1970
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 21: for Leicester City is to be back among.

1971
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 8: The big boys.

1972
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 21: And finally, Bernie, let's turn our attention to Major League

1973
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 21: Soccer where into Miami's going up to Foxborough on Sunday

1974
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 21: to play the New England Revolution. This is kind of

1975
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 21: first in the East against the last in the East,

1976
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 21: and it's really much of it. It's really a news

1977
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:02,440
Speaker 21: story here, mostly because there was always questions whether the

1978
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 21: top European players that Inter Miami has invested in, like

1979
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 21: Lionel Messi and Luis Suarez would play on an artificial

1980
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 21: turf like the one they have at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough.

1981
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 21: This has been kind of a point of contention for

1982
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 21: a lot of players who've been coming over from Europe

1983
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 21: lately to MLS following Lionel Messi. Artificial turf is usually

1984
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 21: not suitable for soccer, even more so than it's not

1985
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 21: suitable for American football in a lot of ways, but

1986
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 21: the injury possibilities are amplified in soccer. Inter Miami and

1987
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:39,719
Speaker 21: Lionel Messi and Linel Messi did play on artificial turf

1988
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 21: earlier in the year in Charlotte. However, it's always been

1989
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 21: wondered whether Lionel Messi, aging already having some injury concerns

1990
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 21: in the past, should be playing on a surface that

1991
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,640
Speaker 21: quite honestly, soccer should just not be played on. And

1992
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 21: it continues a question of how long it's going to

1993
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 21: take the National Football League and their stadiums to realize

1994
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 21: they should probably using regular grass instead. But from manager

1995
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 21: for into Miami, Tata Martino shut down and he doubts

1996
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 21: about that. Said, the players are available, those who healthy,

1997
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 21: are healthy will travel. So we will wait and see

1998
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 21: if Lionel Messi and Luswarez will be playing on Sunday

1999
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 21: on artificial turf.

2000
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 2: Chris, I'm glad you brought up Leicester City. They were

2001
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 2: relegated last May, just like you said, demoted. Now they're

2002
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 2: back in the Premier League. But who can forget that incredible,

2003
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 2: improbable run in twenty sixteen. They were six thousand to

2004
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 2: one to win the championship and they did incredible. Sportsbooks

2005
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 2: will never be the same based on that. Trust me.

2006
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: Coming up, there was one undeniable star on Thursday Night

2007
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 2: during the draft, and you'll agree with me when I

2008
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 2: jog your memory. But you know, I talked a lot

2009
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 2: about the situation since nineteen sixty seven, one hundred and

2010
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 2: thirty quarterbacks selected in the first round, and the improbable

2011
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 2: odds of just winning a playoff game or getting to

2012
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, et cetera, especially for the team that

2013
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 2: drafted you. But how about since twenty eleven. Remember in

2014
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, Sam Bradford, I mean everything changed because Sam

2015
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 2: Bradford was the last one, the last of the Mohicans

2016
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,719
Speaker 2: to get the ridiculous fifty million dollars before ever taking

2017
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:38,560
Speaker 2: a snap. So basically the rookie wage scale was introduced

2018
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, which made it, you know, more less

2019
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: risky to draft a quarterback. But even still, there have

2020
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 2: been thirty eight quarterbacks drafted in the first round since

2021
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:54,879
Speaker 2: that season. Well, how have they done? Again? The numbers

2022
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 2: are daunting. I'm Bernie Fronawer Kevey Lyaer from the Las

2023
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tireck doct Studios. Keep it locked

2024
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 2: right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on

2025
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, were wrapping it up on

2026
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio, coming you live

2027
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 2: from the Tarak dot Com studios here in Las Vegas.

2028
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 2: Before I go any further, I want to thank my

2029
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 2: broadcast team. They're in Los Angeles. They've been with me

2030
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 2: since eleven pm Pacific time on Friday night. Mark Ramsey,

2031
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 2: our technical producer, turning all the dials, keeping us glued together.

2032
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 2: Kevin Wire at the chef handling all the updates. And

2033
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 2: Ian Roddy, our executive producer. He did a great job

2034
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 2: taking all the calls. He'll put the podcast up right

2035
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 2: after the show so you can listen to it and

2036
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 2: tell your friends and all that good stuff. And why

2037
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 2: don't we run it back eleven pm Pacific on Saturday night.

2038
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 2: We have the same crew, same good stuff, guys. And

2039
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 2: by the way, we'll be talking about many things. We'll

2040
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 2: have Mark Medina on Medina Midnight Magic, Medina Magic. We'll

2041
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 2: see if the Lakers complete their sweep. I say that facetiously.

2042
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 2: Denver completing their sweep, I mean, all Denver does has

2043
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 2: amaze me. Nicole Jochik and Aaron Gordon Thursday night both

2044
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: had twenty points and fifteen rebounds, and they both shot

2045
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 2: North with sixty five percent from the floor. He realized

2046
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 2: the NBA playoff basketball has been played for sixty years

2047
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 2: and that never happened until Thursday night. We're gonna get

2048
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 2: into a lot of stuff on Saturday night, full recap

2049
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 2: analysis of the NFL draft, Where we are in the NFL,

2050
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 2: check that NBA playoffs. We'll have Chad Andrews from Denver.

2051
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 2: See what's going on with Sean Payton in his new

2052
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 2: quarterback room. Well, of course, brand new fool and what

2053
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: my name, we'll wreck it. We'll welcome you all in

2054
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. There was one big star and I'm

2055
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 2: gonna get into this more heavily on Saturday night. Bill

2056
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: Belichick killed it. Man, first time he hasn't been in

2057
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 2: a draft room in fifty years. And the dude killed it. Okay,

2058
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean the Drake New England drafts, Drake May. And

2059
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 2: he had some complimentary things about to say about Drake May.

2060
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 2: He was honest, but then he went on to say

2061
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 2: that quote, Drake Bay compares himself a lot to Josh Allen.

2062
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: We'll see about that, Belichick said, it's refreshing. Look, I

2063
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 2: talked a lot about the fact and we're going to

2064
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 2: get again into this much deeper Saturday Night about how

2065
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 2: drafting a successful quarterback in the NFL is not only

2066
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 2: an exact sign, it's in the exact art. And I

2067
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 2: gave you the history of going but all the way

2068
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 2: back to nineteen sixty seven, prior to you know, Thursday's draft,

2069
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty quarterbacks drafted in the first round,

2070
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 2: and the percentages are faint of those who get to

2071
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 2: a super Bowl, much less we get to a playoff game,

2072
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 2: much less a super Bowl. Well, how about in twenty eleven,

2073
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 2: the rookie wage scale was introduced, and before Saturday, before Thursday,

2074
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: excuse me, there had actually been a total of thirty

2075
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 2: eight quarterbacks drafted in the first round during this new

2076
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 2: you know rookie contract era, and those rookie quarterbacks, or

2077
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 2: checked that those quarterbacks drafted in the first round in

2078
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 2: the last fourteen years, I had almost two thousand cumulative

2079
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 2: starts amongst them, and their record cumulatively one game under

2080
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 2: five hundred. Whoa, whoa. And by the way, the list

2081
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 2: is very short in the rookie wage scale quarterback era.

2082
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 2: And remember when that was instituted. What it did is

2083
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 2: it it made it less risky to draft a quarterback

2084
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 2: in the first round, or certainly in the first five

2085
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 2: or the first bit. You know, insert your own Sam

2086
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: Bradford joke here. The dude get I think fifty million

2087
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 2: dollars plus before he ever took a snap of the NFL.

2088
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 2: So they had to restructure that. So the risk went down,

2089
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 2: but the performance hasn't changed that much. Patrick Mahomes is

2090
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 2: the only one of those thirty eight quarterbacks, and of

2091
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: course that number is now forty four because six were

2092
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 2: drafted Thursday night in the first twelve picks to lead

2093
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 2: their team to a super Bowl victory. That's daunting one

2094
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 2: out of thirty eight. Now, I'll never know what it

2095
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 2: would happen to Carson Wentz. That team actually got to

2096
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and won thanks to Nick Foles. But

2097
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 2: you know, if sifts and butts were candy and nuts,

2098
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 2: you'n all have a merry Christmas. So we don't know.

2099
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 2: Now there are actually still ten quarterbacks on a rookie deal.

2100
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:15,839
Speaker 2: The jury is out. But here's the other thing that's daunting.

2101
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 2: All those thirty eight quarterbacks drafted when the new rookie

2102
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 2: wage scale was reinentered was instituted, Guess how many got

2103
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 2: a second contract with a team that drafted them. Eleven.

2104
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 2: That means sixty percent of those first round quarterbacks, justin

2105
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 2: Fields is on that list. There's an example. We're never

2106
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 2: giving a second deal with the team that drafted them.

2107
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 2: Some were cut, some just let their rookie deals expire.

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Speaker 2: So forget to reach in the playoffs, forget the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You're not even taught. We're not even getting a second contract.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about did the team who thought enough of

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Speaker 2: you to stake their hitch their wagon to you as

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Speaker 2: a first round draft pick, did they even want to

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Speaker 2: bring you back for a second bite at the apple.

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Speaker 2: They didn't. By the way of the eleven quarterbacks, remember

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, weren't eleven were of the eleven quarterbacks Of

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Speaker 2: the thirty nine percent who got the second deal by

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Speaker 2: the team that drafted him, only one was signed to

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Speaker 2: a contract beyond that. That's Cam Newton. So as you

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Speaker 2: can see, this is a tough deal, all right, And

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Speaker 2: you spend all this draft capital to get basically three

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Speaker 2: years of production, and those three years, most of the time,

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Speaker 2: was poor performance. Sixty three percent of the teams that

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Speaker 2: drafted those quarterbacks in this era never made the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: That's that's brutal, okay, and only one won a super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and that's the goal to win a super Bowl. Now,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and Jared Goff and Cam Newton actually got

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Speaker 2: on got to the super Bowl, but Cam Newton by

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Speaker 2: the time he got to the super was not on

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Speaker 2: as rookie deal anymore. We'll talk about this much more

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Speaker 2: on Saturday night on The Bernie Frattle Show, so we'll

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Speaker 2: see maybe, you know, there's still hope for Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: and Blake Portles and not Andrew Luck because he's already

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Speaker 2: out of the league. So you get yourself a stud quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You hope it works out. It's gonna do it for

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. See you tonight at eleven pm.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. The Fellas up next on Fox Sports Radio.