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Speaker 1: just maybe, we are closing in on the moment where
Speaker 1: the only face masks we're talking about, Ron Wolfley are
Speaker 1: on football helmets and football helmets only. As we do
Speaker 1: our part weekly, one big red rage at a time
Speaker 1: you would wore a single bar face mask ball, I'd
Speaker 1: take any face masks say give me. I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with you. You're absolutely right on that one. You know,
Speaker 1: if they if they're issu if they issue me, you
Speaker 1: know what, hey, I would go Waterboy, I would go
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler, and I would just go Dick buck Kiss
Speaker 1: with a single bar face mask and it's just start
Speaker 1: jack stomping people. You're absolutely right, But I know you
Speaker 1: were going somewhere without PAULI where exactly where are you going?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we're doing our part, one big red
Speaker 1: rage at a time, and if we're here on a
Speaker 1: Wednesday for the second straight week, that can only mean
Speaker 1: one thing, Wolf and it's a good thing. The Suns
Speaker 1: are winning, yes, Paul, Yes, staying alive. Indeed, around one
Speaker 1: of the playoffs for the Phoenix Suns three two, Ron
Speaker 1: Wolfley reporting and a lot of Arizona Cardinals. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if you would call it jumping the bandwagon, but
Speaker 1: guess what, they're conspicuous by their attendants. There. They were
Speaker 1: in attendance, not just Larry Fitzgerald, the minority owner, but
Speaker 1: JJ Watt, who we'll hear from shortly, Kyler Murray and attendance,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury talking about it. So boom, there we go,
Speaker 1: and you know what, there were the Arizona Cardinals today
Speaker 1: once again doing their part giving us something to talk
Speaker 1: about actually on the field. And if we're talking about
Speaker 1: making progress Wolf from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and you know, getting beyond the pandemic, well guess what
Speaker 1: we've already were already ahead of the game because they
Speaker 1: were on the field. There's actually an OTA to talk
Speaker 1: about from today. Oh how about bad BALI that is
Speaker 1: some good news right there. Ten OTAs, of course, cut
Speaker 1: down to three OTAs negotiated, it seems on a team
Speaker 1: by team base. This It seems like that was negotiated
Speaker 1: right there between the Arizona Cardinals and the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the coaching staff, by the way, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: bury the lead. Bill Davis, linebackers coach, will join us momentarily.
Speaker 1: Linebackers coach Bill Davis, longtime defensive coordinator in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Do you think we have questions when it comes to
Speaker 1: Zaman Collins and Isaiah Simmons at the epicenter of the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals defense. I've got a few, bolly about you.
Speaker 1: I have big picture questions, I have small picture questions. You, Wolf,
Speaker 1: you better run the no huddle, Wolf, because I got
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. You better run the no huddle. Absolutely, Polly,
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do right there. Billy Davis cannot
Speaker 1: wait to talk to Bill Davis. All right, So takeaways
Speaker 1: from the OTA to day I was out there. I
Speaker 1: can just tell you this much. JJ Watt, as advertised,
Speaker 1: dude has a lot of killer watts if you will,
Speaker 1: the energy. I mean, he even volunteered at one point.
Speaker 1: You might have seen the video where he jumped out
Speaker 1: to be a Scout team flex tight end. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know what that garbage can out there isn't cutting it.
Speaker 1: I'm or do what I used to do back in college.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do what I did in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: play a little tight end when I had three touchdown
Speaker 1: receptions for the Houston Texans, and then afterwards I'm going
Speaker 1: to describe it for the media. Here's JJ Watt just
Speaker 1: learning new routines and getting used to new meeting rooms
Speaker 1: and new parking lot and new practice field. I mean,
Speaker 1: being at the same place for ten years, you have
Speaker 1: your kind of your routine set, and you know how
Speaker 1: things go when you kind of have a way of
Speaker 1: doing things. And so for me, you know, I'm following
Speaker 1: Zach Allen around and saying, all right, where do we
Speaker 1: go next? And how the hell do I get to
Speaker 1: the meeting room? And so this morning I actually driving
Speaker 1: in to turn into the parking lot. There's like you
Speaker 1: can turn in and start parking lot and then you
Speaker 1: turn into the next one and it's like soccer fields.
Speaker 1: And I turned into the soccer fields today. So like
Speaker 1: anyone Wolf, anyone their first day at the office, they're
Speaker 1: kind of floundering around and trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: He's out in the auxiliary parking lot when he needs
Speaker 1: to be in the players parking lot. You know he's
Speaker 1: figuring it out. Paul. The best analogy I think you
Speaker 1: could possibly bring to bear in regard to JJ Watt
Speaker 1: and what he's experiencing right now is moved to a
Speaker 1: new country, Paul, learn a new language. Do all that,
Speaker 1: PAULI in one year. Go ahead, move to a new country, Paul,
Speaker 1: and learn a new culture, learn a new language. And
Speaker 1: you're going to find out exactly how JJ Watt feels
Speaker 1: right now, because it's very very difficult. You're going through
Speaker 1: an entire different scheme, You're going through an entire process,
Speaker 1: an entire day of doing things differently and then trying
Speaker 1: to learn it through the prism of that language. It
Speaker 1: is very difficult. I couldn't even handle a week in
Speaker 1: London a few years ago and they speak English. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, you know saiday right, No, that's not in England, isn't, Paul,
Speaker 1: That's Australia right there? But I get your point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and don't confuse Australia with Bernhardt's Psychomits either. It's Austria, okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's right. Remember that as I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see Psychovits the very first practice. That's who I
Speaker 1: want to watch. I'm gonna follow Psychovits, Paul Wolf. You
Speaker 1: gotta follow me on Twitter because I'm sending out video
Speaker 1: clips that are going international film. Frankly, right, we only
Speaker 1: get to watch the first twenty minutes, so you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta be realistic, okay, and reasonable in your expectations.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. But it was amazing to see
Speaker 1: JJ Watt out there for the first time in ninety
Speaker 1: nine and then speaking to numbers. There's Malcolm Butler in
Speaker 1: twenty one. Don't call him Patrick Peterson, It's Malcolm Butler.
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker rocking the three Byron Murphy in the seven,
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds deuce in the number two, Wow, Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 1: wearing number nine, and then Wolf you had Robert Alfred
Speaker 1: out there, which I'll tell you what, at least in
Speaker 1: the first twenty minutes he went through everything. So, hey,
Speaker 1: if you're telling me that Robert Alfred is actually healthy,
Speaker 1: because we know at least in the past he's been
Speaker 1: able to play at a high level win healthy, then
Speaker 1: look out. That's obviously a big key. Paully. Do not
Speaker 1: get me started on Robert Hill, right, because book you
Speaker 1: know exactly how I feel about Robert Alford. But to me,
Speaker 1: all the single digits that were out there on the
Speaker 1: practice field, that had to be really odd. To see
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker running around in the number three, Paul, that
Speaker 1: had to be weird. To see Chase Edmonds wearing number
Speaker 1: two had to be a little bit weird. To see
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons and number nine, and we're not going to
Speaker 1: see number eight Palie that of course retired thanks to
Speaker 1: Larry Wilson. Yes, by the way, number six is James Conner.
Speaker 1: And so when you were watching the offense, you saw
Speaker 1: the new backfield, and then of course Chase Edmonds putting
Speaker 1: the two in the one two punchlins. Cliff Kingsbury was
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, James brings a tough, physical, downhill
Speaker 1: running attack that he's been a proven, you know, tough
Speaker 1: yard runner in this league since he got into it.
Speaker 1: And the thing I like most about him and Chase
Speaker 1: their approach of the game. There's as serious as you
Speaker 1: can be out on that field, ultra competitors, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna push each other and give us a real one
Speaker 1: two points that I think is can really help us. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: I love that, I really do. I cannot wait to
Speaker 1: see if, in fact, this offense is tweaked just a
Speaker 1: little bit, if we're seeing more of the older offenses,
Speaker 1: more traditional offenses. When you hear Cliff Kingsbury saying he's
Speaker 1: more of a downhill runner, Polly, that means you're running
Speaker 1: more of a stretch scheme, you're running more of a
Speaker 1: traditional quarterback under center scheme, you're running more power schemes.
Speaker 1: You're running what does that mean a downhill runner, Because
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean put him in the shotgun and here
Speaker 1: it comes the zone read. For the most part, it's
Speaker 1: more put him behind the queue and here we go
Speaker 1: downhill attacking the line of scrimmage. Is that going to happen?
Speaker 1: Is that what we're gonna see? That is my question.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. When you see the left side
Speaker 1: of the old line from Djamfrey's Justin Pugh and then
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson at center, you like the looks of that,
Speaker 1: and within their tough yards and short yard situations, you
Speaker 1: gotta figure they're going straight ahead behind the left side
Speaker 1: of the line. Chase Edmonds talking about how in his
Speaker 1: fourth theories helping the young guys, but also with a
Speaker 1: lot of experience, a lot of Pro Bowls from offseason
Speaker 1: veterans who are signed, He's learning from them as well.
Speaker 1: Anything I can learn from James and kind of just
Speaker 1: pick each other's minds. I'm sure it'll happen as our
Speaker 1: relationship grows as friends and as teammates. So I'm super
Speaker 1: excited for that though, man, and I'm super excited just
Speaker 1: to learn from all the newer guys that we have
Speaker 1: for like JJ Wat obviously Rodney Hudson, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: pick his mind on just how he sees certain fronts,
Speaker 1: how he sees certain pressure looks. I wanted to become
Speaker 1: the best fotball player that I can be in the
Speaker 1: best teammate I can be. Well, ideally, do you think
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury wants to settle on a primary running back
Speaker 1: who gets the bulk of the carries? Do you think
Speaker 1: Sean Coogler wants one guy to win that job or
Speaker 1: do you see it being a balanced distribution of carrys also, sawly,
Speaker 1: I see it being a balanced distribution, I really do.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be there, and that's what
Speaker 1: fascinates me, Paul. When I hear Cliff Kingsbury say it's
Speaker 1: more of a downhill runner, well, are you gonna have
Speaker 1: are you can have schemes that include a runner that
Speaker 1: is a downhill brother, are you gonna have that? Or
Speaker 1: is it going to be more, once again, a shotgun
Speaker 1: and a lot of zone reads and RPOs. I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be a combination of the two, Paul,
Speaker 1: And I think you might have tendencies. Every team has tendencies,
Speaker 1: Every offense has tendencies. At NFL Defense, Paul, all they
Speaker 1: try to do is break down offenses and their tendencies
Speaker 1: right down in distance, personnel groups, what plays do they
Speaker 1: like out of what formations. They try to break it
Speaker 1: down in a big time way and they do a
Speaker 1: great job of it. You have tendencies, and yes, halfway
Speaker 1: through the season you're gonna change those tendencies offensively. But
Speaker 1: to me, you're probably gonna have tendencies when James Connor
Speaker 1: is your running back, and you're probably gonna have tendencies
Speaker 1: when Chase Edmonds is your running back. Now again, you're
Speaker 1: gonna run the same offense, and it's not going to
Speaker 1: be in all all the time thing. There are never absolutes,
Speaker 1: but you're going to have those tendencies when you have
Speaker 1: two different backs that are actually going to be playing. Hey,
Speaker 1: just because they know what's coming doesn't mean they can
Speaker 1: stop it exactly right, Paulie. That is the whole idea
Speaker 1: of being better than somebody. Go back to twenty two
Speaker 1: and twenty three. Double right, Yeah, the arians. Yes, here
Speaker 1: it comes again and again, try and stop it, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna run it until you do. Hey, a reminder,
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Speaker 1: Bill Davis Linebackers coach is next. It is the big
Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert We are
Speaker 1: satan Ford with In the twenty twenty one NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals select Zaven Collins, linebacker, tell us up,
Speaker 1: we really liked him. Our coaching staff, our scouting staff,
Speaker 1: everybody as a hole had him as one of our
Speaker 1: higher rated defensive players in the entire draft. He also
Speaker 1: had an Alpha tag, which for us, the Alpha Bird
Speaker 1: tag is given to players that have rare leadership qualities,
Speaker 1: great end staying scrat field for the game, are tremendous
Speaker 1: locker room guys, and Xavin Collins is certainly one of them.
Speaker 1: You got to elevate all your game coming in as
Speaker 1: a rookie to play at this level. You know, no
Speaker 1: matter where you're at, you got to elevate every single
Speaker 1: part of your game because those guys who have been
Speaker 1: here for four or five years, they know way more
Speaker 1: than you, and they're way better than you. They have
Speaker 1: efficient movement, they have him efficient minds. You can see
Speaker 1: it whenever you watch them. There he goes, Zavan Collins,
Speaker 1: the first round rookie, preceded by the GM Steve Kim,
Speaker 1: who also shared with the media wolf that about a
Speaker 1: half dozen prospects in the entire draft had that Alpha
Speaker 1: bird tag. Zavin Collins was one of those guys. And
Speaker 1: it's all about you, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 1: It is the big Red Rage. We told you we're
Speaker 1: loaded like a Ron Wolfley dinner played around here. We
Speaker 1: welcome on board the linebackers. Coach Bill Davis always a
Speaker 1: pleasure to talk with, Billy, and coach you tell us
Speaker 1: this time a year ago, you couldn't get anywhere near
Speaker 1: the gridiron, and you're coming off an actual practice right
Speaker 1: and ota on the field with pretty much the entire team,
Speaker 1: So that's got to be a step in the right direction. Absolutely, guys,
Speaker 1: we couldn't have been happier to be out on the
Speaker 1: field today. It feels like a million years since we
Speaker 1: had a normal off season after this one's normal quite yet,
Speaker 1: but we're moving in the right direction, and it's just
Speaker 1: it makes such a difference to have those great athletes
Speaker 1: out there going through the assignments and stepping through them
Speaker 1: and physically doing the things that we're asking them to
Speaker 1: do during the season. And it was a shame last
Speaker 1: year that a young talent like Isaiah Simmons couldn't get
Speaker 1: the reps and do all that, and the growth that happens.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't really understand growth that happens
Speaker 1: in the off season with younger players, no doubt. Aby
Speaker 1: to coach, Oh my goodness, man, it's so good to
Speaker 1: talk to you. You had to be out there looking
Speaker 1: at Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons and coach you had
Speaker 1: to be drooling. These guys look pretty good, right, how
Speaker 1: kid you not? Well, I can't, honestly. You know. My
Speaker 1: first takeaway and this was rookie minicamp, and because Zaven
Speaker 1: Collins came over near the sideline where us media pencil
Speaker 1: necks were standing, I'm like, this guy's a middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: He's six five, two sixty. Is that Does that present
Speaker 1: a challenge in anyway? Billy? Well, you know, it's it
Speaker 1: kind of takes me back. Well, if you remember the
Speaker 1: days where the backers were all built like that, they
Speaker 1: were all up there and because you had to take
Speaker 1: on guards and there was more odd drums and it
Speaker 1: was just a different time and a different offense it
Speaker 1: was coming your way. So it kind of just takes
Speaker 1: me back to early stages in my own career. You know,
Speaker 1: working with guys like Lavan Kirkland and those bigger guys,
Speaker 1: you could run that they had to be big because
Speaker 1: of you know, the downhill run game, the two back
Speaker 1: run game that was coming at you. So when I
Speaker 1: actually went to tall So to Zaban's pro day, the
Speaker 1: first thing that jumped out of me was the way
Speaker 1: in and the measure, and I said, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 1: this is a big boy. His head's big, his hands
Speaker 1: are big as wrists are big. And I was really
Speaker 1: anxious to see him, moved to see how he carried
Speaker 1: that size, so pleasantly surprised how easily he carried the
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty sixty five pounds. And I think
Speaker 1: that that went a long way in us, the evaluation
Speaker 1: of saying, oh, yeah, he is big and the weight
Speaker 1: is up there, but boy, it just it looks right
Speaker 1: and he carries it well, and that makes a big
Speaker 1: difference when when you weigh that much. So, Billy, how
Speaker 1: involved was this practice? This ota practice? So how involved
Speaker 1: did you guys get? Were there any checks for Zaban
Speaker 1: out there? Oh? Yeah, absolutely. Now we were very limited
Speaker 1: what we can do. So what we do defensively is
Speaker 1: we set up a bunch of different barrels of eleven
Speaker 1: offensive players. There's three different stations, and we have the guys.
Speaker 1: We make a call and they line up to an
Speaker 1: offensive structure or formation, and they have to make all
Speaker 1: their calls. So as they run from one to another
Speaker 1: to another, we give them different calls and a different formation.
Speaker 1: So it's a way that we kind of get multiple
Speaker 1: calls against multiple formational structures. And within Matt, each call
Speaker 1: has some moving carts to it. And so far in
Speaker 1: the two weeks that I've had them, two and a
Speaker 1: half weeks, we put nine installs, and within each install
Speaker 1: there's about ten to fifteen calls defensive calls that you
Speaker 1: have to learn, and we've got through ten of them
Speaker 1: now and he's really got a great aptitude for picking
Speaker 1: up and understanding and digesting the scheme. So far, we're
Speaker 1: on board. Bill Davis linebackers coach, Arizona Cardinals. A big
Speaker 1: red rate presented by satan Ford and Gilbert. So simply
Speaker 1: put Billy, what's the risk reward and given a rookie
Speaker 1: the green dot to call the defense from day one. Well,
Speaker 1: no matter how smart you are, no matter how football
Speaker 1: intelligent y are, a rookie year is a rookie year,
Speaker 1: and there's going to be growth that has to happen,
Speaker 1: and the growth comes through error and stake correction. And
Speaker 1: sometimes the best lesson a young guy can learn is
Speaker 1: the mistake, like Isaiah in the first game against San
Speaker 1: Fran getting out of the leverage in the coverage of
Speaker 1: the running back out of the backfield that went for
Speaker 1: eighty yards. It's a lesson that he didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: blow that particular assignment. Again the whole year, those things happen.
Speaker 1: You realize they're going to happen when they start is rookies.
Speaker 1: It happens to all positions. I don't care if you're
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't care if you're a receiver or
Speaker 1: a dB. I'll give you the first overall pick or
Speaker 1: a third round pick. You play your rookie year, you're
Speaker 1: going to have to grow through some mistakes. And again
Speaker 1: that happens because our game is different than the college game.
Speaker 1: The amount of defensive information that you have to process
Speaker 1: in the mic linebacker position. The true art of playing
Speaker 1: the mic backer is the quarterback of our defense is
Speaker 1: the ability to communicate to all ten other defensive players
Speaker 1: their responsibility, meaning we have to set the front and
Speaker 1: that's how people get aligned. And then we have to
Speaker 1: make the secondary cause of where a pressure is coming
Speaker 1: or where a stunt might happen. And within Matt, you've
Speaker 1: got to be able to align everybody up, communicate to
Speaker 1: what we're seeing in the offensive structure formation, and then
Speaker 1: when they motion, we have to make the appropriate adjustment
Speaker 1: to the motion. And oh yeah, by the way, after that,
Speaker 1: you have to do your own job at a high level.
Speaker 1: Most guys can do their own job at high level.
Speaker 1: It's only a few can line everybody else up and
Speaker 1: do their job effectively. Billy, how is Isaiah Simmons processing
Speaker 1: this defense? And do you envision him being helped for Zavin? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Isaiah's got a football mind. One of the things that
Speaker 1: I've never had a chance to talk about it very often,
Speaker 1: but Isaiah. Last year we trained Isaiah in six different
Speaker 1: defensive positions. We had the MIC linebacker, the MO linebacker,
Speaker 1: and the SAM linebacker, where three of the linebacker spots
Speaker 1: he had to learn. And in college he never really
Speaker 1: played the micer, the MO, the inside spot. He was
Speaker 1: always more of the edge player. Then we trained him
Speaker 1: as a nickel the strong safety and the free safety
Speaker 1: and without an off season or a preseason game, so
Speaker 1: he had six positions to learn. Zaban has won Zavan
Speaker 1: learning the mic linebacker spot and through all that, Isaiah
Speaker 1: as the season went on and he got more and
Speaker 1: more comfortable with those different positions and all the different
Speaker 1: hats we had him wearing, all of a sudden, his
Speaker 1: mind slowed down and that body activated, and you saw
Speaker 1: him make some plays. And we're really excited about an
Speaker 1: off season when Isaiah some preseason games and the growth
Speaker 1: that's going to happen there because he's got a really
Speaker 1: high football like you, and he's very one of the
Speaker 1: things you find and the more you coach and the
Speaker 1: more you're round in the game. Not everyone can go
Speaker 1: out there and have a relaxed mind but play fast.
Speaker 1: And Isaiah's got that ability. And when he comes to
Speaker 1: the sideline and he tells me it happened a certain way,
Speaker 1: Isaiah's usually right. He calmly saw it, he recognized it,
Speaker 1: and he could give it back to me. There's some
Speaker 1: guys come side line and say, hey, coach, the left
Speaker 1: guard pull and the tight end slashed across the BACKFIELDE No,
Speaker 1: but it didn't And you look at the picture, said no, Son,
Speaker 1: it didn't even come close to happen. What were you
Speaker 1: looking at? Well, Isaiah's the guy that when he says
Speaker 1: that it is what he said it was, and that's
Speaker 1: that's a good sign of him of his mind to
Speaker 1: being calm and being able to function that high level
Speaker 1: Bill Davis, Cardinal's linebackers coach. Here on the Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Forn and Gilbert a year ago,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons had Devandre Campbell in front of him. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is classifying in form or not,
Speaker 1: but is he going to play six different positions this year?
Speaker 1: Or do you see him sticking at that inside backer spot. Well,
Speaker 1: the home base will now be the inside backer Moe
Speaker 1: Dime spot, but we will still because he's a Swiss
Speaker 1: Army knife that it is very, very frustrating for an
Speaker 1: offense to see isa out there and not be able
Speaker 1: to identify his position. Is he the other safety? Is
Speaker 1: he the sambacker? Is he the mic? Is the mo?
Speaker 1: And really those identifications to an offense has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with their protections, has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with how they're blocking scheme will online. So we find
Speaker 1: we get a pretty good advantage by moving him around
Speaker 1: a little bit as long as he can handle it.
Speaker 1: And he's proven, especially at the end of last season,
Speaker 1: that he absolutely can handle multiple positions. But the home
Speaker 1: base will be the inside mo or dime linebacker. Billy.
Speaker 1: Is this the most talented linebacking corps you've ever coached? Well,
Speaker 1: it's see August, and time will tell if it's the
Speaker 1: most talented. If you if you talk about raw potential, yeah,
Speaker 1: but now as you know, well, they got to prove
Speaker 1: it in the NFL and they got to do it
Speaker 1: over time. That the true sign of greatness to me
Speaker 1: is playing at a real high consistency of doing your
Speaker 1: job and making a play when it presents itself to you.
Speaker 1: And that's what Zavan and Isaiah sa all time. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking for you guys to make the wild play
Speaker 1: I needed. We have seventy five snaps that seventy of
Speaker 1: them are exactly the way they're supposed to be, and
Speaker 1: we may have You know, I've never coached a perfect game,
Speaker 1: so there's always a couple in there that you know
Speaker 1: they did something you hadn't seen, or we did it wrong.
Speaker 1: A little bit, but they are very high football like you,
Speaker 1: locked in instinctive inside backers, and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see how far we could grow them into and watch
Speaker 1: them in the next couple of years. Look, history says
Speaker 1: you're going the preseason, you'll see mainly vanilla offenses and skis.
Speaker 1: Do you ask Cliff Kingsbury to dial it up and
Speaker 1: get exotic and training camp to try and test those
Speaker 1: guys in their football IQ? Well, just by the nature
Speaker 1: of our offensive with him just running his stuff, he
Speaker 1: tests us because he's got the four wide receiver sets,
Speaker 1: the three wide, the twelve, the two tight end packages,
Speaker 1: and then you have Kyler back there doing the quarterback
Speaker 1: run game, and so all of just facing offense, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to dial anything up. He doesn't just by
Speaker 1: calling his installs, and we've got to meet the challenge
Speaker 1: of trying to stop our own offense. Billy, where do
Speaker 1: you think those defense will improve the most from last season?
Speaker 1: I mean just a gut feeling of speculation on your part, yes,
Speaker 1: but a gut feeling. Where do you think it's going
Speaker 1: to improve the most? Well, we really felt good about
Speaker 1: the improvements we've made last year. We really jumped up
Speaker 1: in the rankings, and never know, we say it all
Speaker 1: the time. It's a scoreboard in the end zone. So
Speaker 1: points allowed per game are what we really have to
Speaker 1: focus on. Our sacks were high. Our turnovers, I think
Speaker 1: are going to increase. One of the things you get
Speaker 1: when you get to two six four inside backers and
Speaker 1: who can move and run now is a quarterback when
Speaker 1: you try to hide the lowest and you've got a
Speaker 1: short little stop route in an end behind it, trying
Speaker 1: to throw over those two inside You're going to elevate
Speaker 1: your past a little bit to safeties are going to
Speaker 1: get more balls, I believe. I think there'll be more
Speaker 1: tips and overthrows, and tips and overthrows in the NFL
Speaker 1: turn into interceptions. So if I had to pick one
Speaker 1: area that we're probably gonna make some. And then you
Speaker 1: have JJ and there's baton balls left and right, and
Speaker 1: he's an erects havoc in there, and along with Chandler
Speaker 1: coming off the edge, I just think the quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: going to be under more drests and they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to adjust how they throw, which we get tips and overthrows,
Speaker 1: and I think our turnovers and interceptions should go go
Speaker 1: up there and hopefully the points allowed come down. It
Speaker 1: was hard not to notice JJ Watt today, just his
Speaker 1: energy right even ran scout team tight end for you
Speaker 1: guys a little bit. And we know how Steve Kim
Speaker 1: has spoken to the leadership aspect of bringing him into
Speaker 1: the locker room. Do you believe in that because a
Speaker 1: lot of analytics guys say, ah, they dismissed the locker
Speaker 1: room and the leadership. What do you say about that?
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy. I think leadership as a monetary value,
Speaker 1: just like a forty yard dash does. And I think
Speaker 1: the chemistry on your team is makes all the difference
Speaker 1: in the world between going deep into a playoffs or
Speaker 1: not making the playoffs. There's got to be a chemistry,
Speaker 1: a love respect, of mutual respect of each other. And
Speaker 1: you need leaders on both sides of the ball. Somebody
Speaker 1: asked me followers. So you don't need all leaders. You
Speaker 1: don't need a bunch of alphas that are going to lead.
Speaker 1: You need one or two really good ones. And they're
Speaker 1: really good leaders are the ones that will do exactly
Speaker 1: what you just describe. I'll jump over and where a
Speaker 1: green hat and be a tight end. And I'm a
Speaker 1: superstar because above it, because I want the team. I
Speaker 1: put the team first. And when he does it now
Speaker 1: it's so much easier for a young kid that's trying
Speaker 1: to make his way to say, hey, I'm not embarrassed
Speaker 1: by wearing this, and absolutely I'm making us better and
Speaker 1: it Leadership is natural. You can't fake it. Either have
Speaker 1: it or you don't. And JJ definitely has it, and
Speaker 1: it is a huge addition and it really makes us
Speaker 1: better from a lot of other areas that aren't the
Speaker 1: you know, the forty yard dash and all the other things.
Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely value. Just listening to you talk right there,
Speaker 1: Billy is just bringing back a lot of memories right there,
Speaker 1: because I had a coach that used to say, if
Speaker 1: you get enough dogs in a locker room, even the
Speaker 1: cats start barking. You know. I love that saying, because
Speaker 1: you don't matter. That's all right, Bellie. Absolutely to your points.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you need followers, There's no doubt about it. Not
Speaker 1: everybody is going to walk around be a leader. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't work that way. Well, we're about a hundred
Speaker 1: days away from the Cardinals opener in Tennessee. Zavian Collins,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons meet Derrick Henry at six three, two fifty.
Speaker 1: So that's when you know accounts for real. Billy, Thank
Speaker 1: you for your time and the insight tonight. We really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. As always, I appreciate you guys having me
Speaker 1: always my pleasure. Thank you. Coach. There you go. Bill Davis,
Speaker 1: a longtime defensive coordinator in the NFL. Cardinals linebackers coach
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's his task to get those guys ready
Speaker 1: to go by September. We continue with a big red
Speaker 1: rage presented by Satan fourd in Gilbert Murray and Shotgun
Speaker 1: has the football short set, throws a deep ball left
Speaker 1: side single coverage and it is pulled in by DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins and he's got a touchdown. Just want to throw
Speaker 1: by Tyler Murray and want to catch by Duke to
Speaker 1: put the Cardinals on the board with two thirty nine
Speaker 1: to go on the first Duke was one on one
Speaker 1: great throw by Kyler Murray, but an even read touchdown.
Speaker 1: We said it's gonna be Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: whoever plays better, that's who's gonna win this game. Snaps
Speaker 1: a Murray and he keeps it himself running left, got
Speaker 1: a defender with him at the five breaks, the tackle dives,
Speaker 1: ball comes out, but he crossed the plane. Touchdown Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Somehow Someway found a way to get that pig across Pater.
Speaker 1: Big time play Kyler Murray, and you know what, the
Speaker 1: NFL green with their wolf. He was the NFC Player
Speaker 1: of the Week. That was the Week seven win at
Speaker 1: home against the Seahawks on Sunday Night where the Cardinals
Speaker 1: trail ten noth in twenty seven, fourteen thirty four, twenty four.
Speaker 1: They came back, they won in overtime, and on that
Speaker 1: thirty five yard touchdown pass to DeAndre Hopkins where the
Speaker 1: cameras caught him smiling. We think he was smiling. That
Speaker 1: was the play. Remember Cliff Kingsbury told us on his
Speaker 1: weekly TV show that they stole from Ohio State and
Speaker 1: everyone sort of looked at the sideline and looked at
Speaker 1: like they were confused, and then boom, they snapped in
Speaker 1: through the touchdown. Yeah, that was absolutely brilliant right there, Paul.
Speaker 1: He's so many changes on the horizon. I think for
Speaker 1: this offense, I could be dead wrong, but I think
Speaker 1: at some point in time, you've got to reimagine re
Speaker 1: envision this offense and it gets me so excited with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray at the helm. You know, there's a few
Speaker 1: stats that came out this week. They continue to crunch
Speaker 1: the numbers Kyler Murray. He's the only quarterback ever with
Speaker 1: forty five passing touchdowns in fifteen rushing touchdowns. In his
Speaker 1: first two NFL seasons, he was knocked down a league
Speaker 1: low eight point five percent of the time on passing attempts.
Speaker 1: Last year, next Gen Stats had him rated the most
Speaker 1: explosive ball carrier in the NFL. The most explosive meaning
Speaker 1: a minimum number of carries at least twenty carries of
Speaker 1: ten plus yards and you have to exceed fifteen plus
Speaker 1: miles per hour, and so he was number one in
Speaker 1: that category. I'm not sure what miles pro really factors
Speaker 1: in ultimately, but well, how much of that running game
Speaker 1: and Kyler's legs do you expect to see this year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is a great question once again, Paul, It really
Speaker 1: is because if you look at Kyler Murray, I don't
Speaker 1: see them continuing to run him to the point in
Speaker 1: which we saw last year. And I think we know
Speaker 1: why Kyler is not the biggest guy on the face
Speaker 1: of the planet. And the more you expose him to
Speaker 1: some type of shot, the more damage is going to
Speaker 1: be done to the body. And now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: if you've got Kyler Murray out there and he's missing games,
Speaker 1: your chances of winning games go right through the floor, Paul,
Speaker 1: for the most part, So again, you've got to be
Speaker 1: careful on this. You don't want to turn him into
Speaker 1: Michael Vick. And remember the word when Kyler was coming
Speaker 1: out was he didn't necessarily enjoy the design runs, the
Speaker 1: called runs. He liked to sort of pick his spots
Speaker 1: right when he saw a light box or he saw
Speaker 1: dvs with their backs to him, and then he pull
Speaker 1: it and run it. And so curious, I maybe to
Speaker 1: your point, there's fewer design run spot he still has
Speaker 1: the green light to take off when he wants to
Speaker 1: and bluff Kingsbury today was asked about Kyler Marie's potential
Speaker 1: because we talked about it even back in the playoffs
Speaker 1: when he saw Baker Mayfield excel and Josh Allen excel
Speaker 1: in year three, What about Kyler. No, he's been working
Speaker 1: really hard this off season to try and take that
Speaker 1: that big jump. I thought, you know, not having an
Speaker 1: off season last year. Rolling into season two, he made
Speaker 1: huge strides and then we expect him to make the
Speaker 1: same this season. He definitely is very confident right now.
Speaker 1: He's mastered our system. You can see, you know, the
Speaker 1: leadership qualities continue to emerge, and so we're all just
Speaker 1: really excited to have him here and watch where the
Speaker 1: sink can go with him as our leader. And he
Speaker 1: was out there today. I know SI had written a
Speaker 1: little bit about you know what they're hearing that Kyler
Speaker 1: hasn't been in the Cardinals off season program. That was
Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago. Well, he was out there today
Speaker 1: and there was DeAndre Hopkins practicing as well. The two
Speaker 1: of them are running together and warm ups and then
Speaker 1: there were a ton of passes, you know, between the
Speaker 1: two of them over the co of an hour. And
Speaker 1: so he's wearing a knit cap. It's one hundred plus degrees.
Speaker 1: He's wearing a knit cap out there. But you know,
Speaker 1: all eyes were on Kyler and that's the way it's
Speaker 1: gonna be all year. And he's the franchise quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: got to relish that position. You know, there's no data
Speaker 1: bot it. Polly. DeAndre Hopkins as well, it's going to
Speaker 1: be very interesting. My number one question for this offense
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray is will it be more physical? Will
Speaker 1: we see a downhill runner in James Connor so to speak,
Speaker 1: and Chase Edmonds for that matter. Will we see a
Speaker 1: more physical attack, an assault on the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: when it comes to running the football. That's number one, Polly.
Speaker 1: Number two for me is gonna be DeAndre Hopkins and
Speaker 1: the alignment of DeAndre Hopkins and the movement of DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins and the movement of this offense overall. Only thirty
Speaker 1: four percent of their offensive snaps last year had any
Speaker 1: type of motion to it, Paully, only thirty four percent,
Speaker 1: which was sixteen percentage points under the league average. Think
Speaker 1: about that, Paulie. That is a big number right there,
Speaker 1: that only thirty of their offensive snaps had any motion
Speaker 1: to it whatsoever. I think maybe this is going to
Speaker 1: be another change to this offense going for I don't
Speaker 1: know that to be the case. I just suspected, paul
Speaker 1: You know, when you cite that stat you know what
Speaker 1: I think of immediately. Rondale Moore, Yeah, I think of
Speaker 1: the round two pick and what they want to do
Speaker 1: because Come on, now, when Cliff Kingsbury arrive with the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, do you ever think they'd be below the
Speaker 1: league norm the league average in that category? Absolutely nut.
Speaker 1: So if aj Green can be that outside guy, and
Speaker 1: Frosty Rutger told us here in the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: that's his pick for NFL Comeback Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: we'll see that's obviously a best case scenario. Rondel Moore
Speaker 1: in the slot along with a Christian Kirk or maybe
Speaker 1: rondel Moore is that swing guy, that jet motion guy
Speaker 1: doing the sweeps and being the eye candy and and
Speaker 1: all that. Like you say, Wolf all of a sudden, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe that unlocks DeAndre Hopkins, especially more than last year
Speaker 1: when he was getting double and triple team by the
Speaker 1: end of the season. Here's Cliff Kingsbury on that. I
Speaker 1: do think, you know, it took the first half of
Speaker 1: the season to really kind of get on the same page,
Speaker 1: just not having time on task. And I think even
Speaker 1: out there today watching them communicate talk through things, I
Speaker 1: want to run like this, Hey, I can get him here.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be huge. There'll be a different comfort
Speaker 1: level with those guys. And I'm excited to see where
Speaker 1: it can go. No to talk about it, Bob, We
Speaker 1: talked about this. You can agree or disagree. Really, the
Speaker 1: only guy's yards after catch a year ago on the
Speaker 1: Cardinals offense DeAndre Hopkins Chase Edmonds. Yeah, that has to
Speaker 1: be a bigger component of this year's offense. Hence, once again,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk if he's fully healthy, and Rondel Moore, Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: you know what, honestly, Christian Kirk is a guy. You
Speaker 1: know what a big fan I am of Christian Kirk.
Speaker 1: And I just I wonder what happened that first half
Speaker 1: of the season last year. Go back to it, I Paully.
Speaker 1: I think Christian Kirk had like six touchdowns in the
Speaker 1: first half of the season, first nine aims of the season.
Speaker 1: He was all over the place, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it just tailed right off in the second
Speaker 1: part of the season. And you know, listen, Um, I
Speaker 1: have no idea David Rye was let go as the
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach. I don't know if that had anything
Speaker 1: to do with it whatsoever. But Christian Kirk is a
Speaker 1: talented individual and a guy that I have not given
Speaker 1: up on at all right now. But Rondale Moore. You
Speaker 1: bring up the Rondale Moore thing, Paul, this is scary
Speaker 1: is on the wall, Scary is on his way. That's
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore. That is exactly who he is. And hopefully
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to get vertical, get down
Speaker 1: the field. Maybe you're gonna move him around, give him
Speaker 1: that running start, so to speak. Maybe you're gonna move
Speaker 1: him around and not let a defense actually hone in
Speaker 1: on him or try to jam him off the ball,
Speaker 1: and maybe he's gonna get over the top that that
Speaker 1: will be a huge benefit to Kyler Murray as well.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting in the division is not long after
Speaker 1: the Cardinals took Rondale Moore, Seattle Seahawk took Duayne Eskridge,
Speaker 1: a similar size type player out of Western Michigan, and
Speaker 1: then a couple of picks after that, the Rams took
Speaker 1: two two at well. So right every one of the
Speaker 1: division teams save one the forty nine ers took their
Speaker 1: smaller speed guy who can excel in space. They all
Speaker 1: did it in a round two and then all three
Speaker 1: of them left. The six two ten receiver from LSU,
Speaker 1: Terrorist Marshall, who was top five all time in receiving
Speaker 1: touchdowns at LSU. He was still on the board in Carolina.
Speaker 1: Took him not unlike the old Andy Isabella dk Metcalf
Speaker 1: component from a couple of years ago. So that's going
Speaker 1: to be a storyline all year. No man speaking of
Speaker 1: that DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, are you kidding me? They
Speaker 1: already got a ton of speed at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: Better hope they don't land Julio Jones. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: You know what. I've got an addition maybe on the
Speaker 1: radar for the Cardinals next pleasure and taking down Ja.
Speaker 1: It's picked up in the air running the other way.
Speaker 1: Where did is JJ one? And he is going to
Speaker 1: go eight blush yard for the touchdown. Full of street
Speaker 1: left around. It's good trump by one picked up running
Speaker 1: with it to the fluty to the thirty, to the twenty.
Speaker 1: He's gone touchdown. What can he do? Look at it?
Speaker 1: Come behind? Here comes one second time. He has gone
Speaker 1: to the quarterback stafford back in the past books. He's
Speaker 1: out upside, intercepted by j j One and he's gonna
Speaker 1: take it in for a touchdown. He the man had
Speaker 1: three receiving touchdowns in two thy fourteen for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: And there he was today at the Cardinals first ota
Speaker 1: out in that field, and he's running scout team tight
Speaker 1: end as we mentioned, and he's messing with Byron Murphy
Speaker 1: who was covering him, and he's yelling at him, you
Speaker 1: don't want any of this smoke, and he's trying to
Speaker 1: do an arm over move and wolf. In fact, with
Speaker 1: legalized sports gambling coming by the NFL opener September ninth,
Speaker 1: coming to the AC, I have a prop bet for you.
Speaker 1: Are you ready, Polly? JJ Watt will or will not
Speaker 1: catch a pass for the Arizona Cardinals this year? Oh?
Speaker 1: He will? Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. Really,
Speaker 1: Oh Polly, I fully expect Cliff Kingsbury to use J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt as a tight end, and not only listen J J. Watt.
Speaker 1: This guy is a physical, physical specimen. This is a
Speaker 1: physical dog. He enjoys the physicality of the game. Why
Speaker 1: not line him up as a stud tight end in
Speaker 1: line and let him come off the ball? Oh yeah, anything.
Speaker 1: The only thing was today he's running the nine route,
Speaker 1: he's running the go route. He's gonna have to run
Speaker 1: a stop route and just get himself, his big body
Speaker 1: between the dB and the football. That's what he's gonna as.
Speaker 1: You can't wait to watch him play, Polly, Seriously, was
Speaker 1: he vocal, Paul, you were out there? Oh, of course today?
Speaker 1: Was he vocal? Was he? You know? He's leading with energy,
Speaker 1: He's talking to different guys. Remember Buddha told us a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago here on the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, that JJ Watt came
Speaker 1: up and consulted him. You know which guy should I
Speaker 1: talk to? What is this guy like? What is his
Speaker 1: personality like? And JJ Watt explain why that's important to
Speaker 1: him to know that. As one of the team leaders today,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things is understanding who you're dealing with,
Speaker 1: because every single person is different. So it's all about
Speaker 1: cultivating those relationships and really learning your teammates on a
Speaker 1: deeper level so that when you do get in those
Speaker 1: tough times or when you do have to have a
Speaker 1: tough conversation, you understand how that guy best responds. So
Speaker 1: while one guy may respond to me yelling at him
Speaker 1: and getting on him and saying, hey, you're doing this wrong,
Speaker 1: I need you to do it like this. Another guy
Speaker 1: may go into his shell when I do that. So
Speaker 1: for that guy, I may need to go put my
Speaker 1: arm around him and say, hey, I know you're having
Speaker 1: a tough time with this. Let me explain why that's
Speaker 1: not how it should be done and why we need
Speaker 1: to do it this way. And then the most important part,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is to be doing everything that you
Speaker 1: possibly can to help the team from your own standpoint. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is just so good right there, Paula. You've got
Speaker 1: to You've got to hold yourself accountable first, right, you
Speaker 1: got to hold yourself to a level that you don't
Speaker 1: expect from your teammates. Paul You do that, and you
Speaker 1: will earn instant credibility inside that locker room so that
Speaker 1: you can walk up on a teammate and say, dude,
Speaker 1: what do you do when you're just killing us out there?
Speaker 1: And if you can't play, you can't lead. You know that, Wolf,
Speaker 1: So you know, And look, you talk about JJ Watt
Speaker 1: and the impact and you know better than anyone in
Speaker 1: the NFL's not a raw row league. I get it.
Speaker 1: But if JJ Watts around, I don't think the Cardinals
Speaker 1: come out the way they did last year in weeks sixteen,
Speaker 1: I don't think the way they play the way they
Speaker 1: did maybe in weeks seventeen. I just I think that's
Speaker 1: what the decision makers think, and that's why they truly
Speaker 1: valued JJ Watt on and off the field and what
Speaker 1: sort of impact he can make this year. Here's Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury today just talked about talking about his mentality as
Speaker 1: a player and a leader. He's been great. Everything that
Speaker 1: you've seen and I've seen probably through the media in
Speaker 1: different outlets throughout his career. What you see is what
Speaker 1: you get. I mean, he's locked in all the time.
Speaker 1: He's a team guy, incredible work ethic, incredible leadership, and
Speaker 1: it's it's been a real joy to see him around
Speaker 1: the building. And he's been proactive in the community obviously
Speaker 1: it's Suns games and you know, and repping the Mercury
Speaker 1: and everything else in the Pat Tillman shoe. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's been a double thumbs up. What was interesting this
Speaker 1: week on the Red Sea Report is bertrand Berry was
Speaker 1: saying he fully expects Vans, Joseph too for the most part,
Speaker 1: separate Chandler Jones and and JJ Watt to try and
Speaker 1: keep those offensive lines honest, so they can't slide protection
Speaker 1: to one side or the other. What's your expectation, Yeah, Paully, No,
Speaker 1: that is a that is a huge statement right there
Speaker 1: from a guy that knows pass rushing in bertrand Berry. Right,
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. I could see it, though. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna work together as well from time to time.
Speaker 1: It's not always going to be a situation I think
Speaker 1: where you're going to have him on opposite sides of
Speaker 1: the ball. I think from time to time you'll move
Speaker 1: them and let them work some games, especially if you're
Speaker 1: you're trying to pen up some blitzes Polly, where you
Speaker 1: want to know this is where they're going to slide
Speaker 1: their line now, will blitz from the weak side. I
Speaker 1: think there are times when you definitely will do that
Speaker 1: trying to set something else up for somebody else. But
Speaker 1: to me, I want to go back to jj Watt
Speaker 1: and what jj Watt was saying Paul on leadership, because
Speaker 1: the lead got buried for the most part. Notice he
Speaker 1: was he was talking about how he needs to approach
Speaker 1: his teammates and how you have to know your teammates
Speaker 1: and know how this guy responds and that guy responds.
Speaker 1: But notice he was saying all that within the context
Speaker 1: of talking to your teammates. I mean that is to
Speaker 1: be That is what a true leader, a guy that
Speaker 1: understands his impact in his role. And you gotta ball
Speaker 1: out first, Paul, you gotta play. You already said that.
Speaker 1: You nailed it. Paul. You've got to go out and
Speaker 1: ball out yourself before you can walk up on somebody else.
Speaker 1: But make no mistake about it. What JJ Watt was
Speaker 1: saying is you need to walk up on your teammates.
Speaker 1: Has got to know how to do it. And look,
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones wasn't there today. But I tell you what
Speaker 1: did get my attention was JJ Watt first team defense
Speaker 1: next to Jordan Phillips. And if Jordan Phillips is healthy
Speaker 1: and his measurables can match his production because he is
Speaker 1: such a large dude, and it can be so problematic.
Speaker 1: I mean, Wolf, if you have those guys on either
Speaker 1: end of your defensive front, there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of single blocking for a guy like Jordan Phillips. Right,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yeah, there's no doubt about it, Paul.
Speaker 1: This is right now. The Arizona Cardinals last year number
Speaker 1: five in sacks per attempt, number five in sacks per
Speaker 1: attempt last minus Chandler minus Chandler Jones for the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the season. So when you think of getting
Speaker 1: Chan back and JJ Watt and the impact that JJ
Speaker 1: Watt is going to have on not only the defensive
Speaker 1: line room in Jordan Phillips, but the entire defense, and
Speaker 1: dare I say the entire team? Man, I'm just really
Speaker 1: jagged up fault. I think it might have a Chris
Speaker 1: Paul effect on this team. We'll see. Hey, speaking of
Speaker 1: the Sun's how about minority owner Larry Fitzgerald. You got
Speaker 1: any news on Fits? What's the latest wolf anything on Fits? No?
Speaker 1: I got nothing, Bollie. How about how about some news
Speaker 1: on zach Ertz. I can't tell you sources telling yours truly,
Speaker 1: he's been in the valley. Oh so what Doesn'tny work
Speaker 1: out here? Paul? Well, you could say, yeah, his wife's
Speaker 1: a Mason native and so forth. But wait a minute,
Speaker 1: typically this time of year, he's not here, is my understanding.
Speaker 1: So oh, we'll see exactly Because June June first is
Speaker 1: coming gone, and now the Eagles can save eight point
Speaker 1: five million under the cap if they either cut or
Speaker 1: Trade zach Ertz TikTok Stay tuned on that one. Special
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