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It 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:59.959 doesn't get any better than that horn unleash the far. Maybe, 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:07.760 just maybe, we are closing in on the moment where 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:12.600 the only face masks we're talking about, Ron Wolfley are 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.679 on football helmets and football helmets only. As we do 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:22.640 our part weekly, one big red rage at a time 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:27.080 you would wore a single bar face mask ball, I'd 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:28.839 take any face masks say give me. I'll be honest 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.320 with you. You're absolutely right on that one. You know, 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.240 if they if they're issu if they issue me, you 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.760 know what, hey, I would go Waterboy, I would go 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.480 Adam Sandler, and I would just go Dick buck Kiss 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.560 with a single bar face mask and it's just start 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.360 jack stomping people. You're absolutely right, But I know you 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.360 were going somewhere without PAULI where exactly where are you going? 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.760 I'm just saying we're doing our part, one big red 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.760 rage at a time, and if we're here on a 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.160 Wednesday for the second straight week, that can only mean 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.120 one thing, Wolf and it's a good thing. The Suns 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:03.600 are winning, yes, Paul, Yes, staying alive. Indeed, around one 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.240 of the playoffs for the Phoenix Suns three two, Ron 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.800 Wolfley reporting and a lot of Arizona Cardinals. I'm not 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.120 sure if you would call it jumping the bandwagon, but 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.119 guess what, they're conspicuous by their attendants. There. They were 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.440 in attendance, not just Larry Fitzgerald, the minority owner, but 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.359 JJ Watt, who we'll hear from shortly, Kyler Murray and attendance, 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.160 Cliff Kingsbury talking about it. So boom, there we go, 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.840 and you know what, there were the Arizona Cardinals today 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.399 once again doing their part giving us something to talk 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.800 about actually on the field. And if we're talking about 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.520 making progress Wolf from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.359 and you know, getting beyond the pandemic, well guess what 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.639 we've already were already ahead of the game because they 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.200 were on the field. There's actually an OTA to talk 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.920 about from today. Oh how about bad BALI that is 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.080 some good news right there. Ten OTAs, of course, cut 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.240 down to three OTAs negotiated, it seems on a team 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.160 by team base. This It seems like that was negotiated 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.360 right there between the Arizona Cardinals and the coaching staff. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:07.920 Speaking of the coaching staff, by the way, I shouldn't 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.720 bury the lead. Bill Davis, linebackers coach, will join us momentarily. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.720 Linebackers coach Bill Davis, longtime defensive coordinator in the NFL. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.440 Do you think we have questions when it comes to 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.760 Zaman Collins and Isaiah Simmons at the epicenter of the 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.280 Arizona Cardinals defense. I've got a few, bolly about you. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.920 I have big picture questions, I have small picture questions. You, Wolf, 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.079 you better run the no huddle, Wolf, because I got 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.680 a lot of questions. You better run the no huddle. Absolutely, Polly, 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.800 that's what we're gonna do right there. Billy Davis cannot 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.160 wait to talk to Bill Davis. All right, So takeaways 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.920 from the OTA to day I was out there. I 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:47.200 can just tell you this much. JJ Watt, as advertised, 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.080 dude has a lot of killer watts if you will, 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.600 the energy. I mean, he even volunteered at one point. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.680 You might have seen the video where he jumped out 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.320 to be a Scout team flex tight end. He's like, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.320 you know what that garbage can out there isn't cutting it. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.960 I'm or do what I used to do back in college. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.040 I'm going to do what I did in twenty fourteen, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.280 play a little tight end when I had three touchdown 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.080 receptions for the Houston Texans, and then afterwards I'm going 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.640 to describe it for the media. Here's JJ Watt just 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.760 learning new routines and getting used to new meeting rooms 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.640 and new parking lot and new practice field. I mean, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.400 being at the same place for ten years, you have 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.880 your kind of your routine set, and you know how 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.200 things go when you kind of have a way of 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.520 doing things. And so for me, you know, I'm following 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.520 Zach Allen around and saying, all right, where do we 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:33.960 go next? And how the hell do I get to 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.880 the meeting room? And so this morning I actually driving 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.599 in to turn into the parking lot. There's like you 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.400 can turn in and start parking lot and then you 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.480 turn into the next one and it's like soccer fields. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.440 And I turned into the soccer fields today. So like 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.599 anyone Wolf, anyone their first day at the office, they're 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.400 kind of floundering around and trying to figure it out. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.800 He's out in the auxiliary parking lot when he needs 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.640 to be in the players parking lot. You know he's 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.479 figuring it out. Paul. The best analogy I think you 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.240 could possibly bring to bear in regard to JJ Watt 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.200 and what he's experiencing right now is moved to a 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.320 new country, Paul, learn a new language. Do all that, 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.839 PAULI in one year. Go ahead, move to a new country, Paul, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.440 and learn a new culture, learn a new language. And 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.800 you're going to find out exactly how JJ Watt feels 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.880 right now, because it's very very difficult. You're going through 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:29.600 an entire different scheme, You're going through an entire process, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:34.120 an entire day of doing things differently and then trying 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.400 to learn it through the prism of that language. It 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.359 is very difficult. I couldn't even handle a week in 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.719 London a few years ago and they speak English. I mean, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.920 come on, you know saiday right, No, that's not in England, isn't, Paul, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.560 That's Australia right there? But I get your point. Yeah, 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:54.520 and don't confuse Australia with Bernhardt's Psychomits either. It's Austria, okay, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.320 So yeah, that's right. Remember that as I can't wait 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.919 to see Psychovits the very first practice. That's who I 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.120 want to watch. I'm gonna follow Psychovits, Paul Wolf. You 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.520 gotta follow me on Twitter because I'm sending out video 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:12.880 clips that are going international film. Frankly, right, we only 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.039 get to watch the first twenty minutes, so you know, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:19.560 you gotta be realistic, okay, and reasonable in your expectations. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.320 Put it that way. But it was amazing to see 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.000 JJ Watt out there for the first time in ninety 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.359 nine and then speaking to numbers. There's Malcolm Butler in 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.680 twenty one. Don't call him Patrick Peterson, It's Malcolm Butler. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.719 Buddha Baker rocking the three Byron Murphy in the seven, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:39.320 Chase Edmonds deuce in the number two, Wow, Isaiah Simmons 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.359 wearing number nine, and then Wolf you had Robert Alfred 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.240 out there, which I'll tell you what, at least in 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.520 the first twenty minutes he went through everything. So, hey, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.400 if you're telling me that Robert Alfred is actually healthy, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.159 because we know at least in the past he's been 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.479 able to play at a high level win healthy, then 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.080 look out. That's obviously a big key. Paully. Do not 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.400 get me started on Robert Hill, right, because book you 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.200 know exactly how I feel about Robert Alford. But to me, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.280 all the single digits that were out there on the 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.120 practice field, that had to be really odd. To see 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.760 Buddha Baker running around in the number three, Paul, that 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.920 had to be weird. To see Chase Edmonds wearing number 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.200 two had to be a little bit weird. To see 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.760 Isaiah Simmons and number nine, and we're not going to 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.120 see number eight Palie that of course retired thanks to 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.600 Larry Wilson. Yes, by the way, number six is James Conner. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.560 And so when you were watching the offense, you saw 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.800 the new backfield, and then of course Chase Edmonds putting 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.720 the two in the one two punchlins. Cliff Kingsbury was 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.000 talking about, you know, James brings a tough, physical, downhill 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.000 running attack that he's been a proven, you know, tough 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.720 yard runner in this league since he got into it. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.440 And the thing I like most about him and Chase 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.680 their approach of the game. There's as serious as you 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.880 can be out on that field, ultra competitors, and they're 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.280 gonna push each other and give us a real one 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.760 two points that I think is can really help us. Yeah, Polly, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.080 I love that, I really do. I cannot wait to 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.200 see if, in fact, this offense is tweaked just a 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.560 little bit, if we're seeing more of the older offenses, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.440 more traditional offenses. When you hear Cliff Kingsbury saying he's 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.760 more of a downhill runner, Polly, that means you're running 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.680 more of a stretch scheme, you're running more of a 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:29.560 traditional quarterback under center scheme, you're running more power schemes. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:34.400 You're running what does that mean a downhill runner, Because 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.959 it doesn't mean put him in the shotgun and here 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.240 it comes the zone read. For the most part, it's 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.920 more put him behind the queue and here we go 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.640 downhill attacking the line of scrimmage. Is that going to happen? 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.800 Is that what we're gonna see? That is my question. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.320 I'll tell you what. When you see the left side 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.319 of the old line from Djamfrey's Justin Pugh and then 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.720 Rodney Hudson at center, you like the looks of that, 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.720 and within their tough yards and short yard situations, you 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.679 gotta figure they're going straight ahead behind the left side 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.600 of the line. Chase Edmonds talking about how in his 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.640 fourth theories helping the young guys, but also with a 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.280 lot of experience, a lot of Pro Bowls from offseason 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.079 veterans who are signed, He's learning from them as well. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.200 Anything I can learn from James and kind of just 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.000 pick each other's minds. I'm sure it'll happen as our 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.920 relationship grows as friends and as teammates. So I'm super 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.640 excited for that though, man, and I'm super excited just 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.000 to learn from all the newer guys that we have 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.520 for like JJ Wat obviously Rodney Hudson, I'm trying to 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.040 pick his mind on just how he sees certain fronts, 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.600 how he sees certain pressure looks. I wanted to become 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.079 the best fotball player that I can be in the 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.319 best teammate I can be. Well, ideally, do you think 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.680 Cliff Kingsbury wants to settle on a primary running back 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.720 who gets the bulk of the carries? Do you think 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.760 Sean Coogler wants one guy to win that job or 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.440 do you see it being a balanced distribution of carrys also, sawly, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.240 I see it being a balanced distribution, I really do. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.320 I think that's going to be there, and that's what 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.640 fascinates me, Paul. When I hear Cliff Kingsbury say it's 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.679 more of a downhill runner, well, are you gonna have 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.120 are you can have schemes that include a runner that 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.400 is a downhill brother, are you gonna have that? Or 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.679 is it going to be more, once again, a shotgun 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.160 and a lot of zone reads and RPOs. I think 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.800 it's going to be a combination of the two, Paul, 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.839 And I think you might have tendencies. Every team has tendencies, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.960 Every offense has tendencies. At NFL Defense, Paul, all they 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.679 try to do is break down offenses and their tendencies 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.280 right down in distance, personnel groups, what plays do they 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.800 like out of what formations. They try to break it 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.120 down in a big time way and they do a 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.319 great job of it. You have tendencies, and yes, halfway 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.800 through the season you're gonna change those tendencies offensively. But 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.160 to me, you're probably gonna have tendencies when James Connor 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.319 is your running back, and you're probably gonna have tendencies 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.839 when Chase Edmonds is your running back. Now again, you're 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.439 gonna run the same offense, and it's not going to 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.560 be in all all the time thing. There are never absolutes, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.080 but you're going to have those tendencies when you have 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.480 two different backs that are actually going to be playing. Hey, 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.120 just because they know what's coming doesn't mean they can 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.680 stop it exactly right, Paulie. That is the whole idea 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.480 of being better than somebody. Go back to twenty two 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.360 and twenty three. Double right, Yeah, the arians. Yes, here 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.360 it comes again and again, try and stop it, and 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.800 we're gonna run it until you do. Hey, a reminder, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.000 single game tickets on sale now go to easy Cardinals 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.920 dot com, Slash game TI sets game t i X. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:35.000 Bill Davis Linebackers coach is next. It is the big 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.719 Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert We are 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:48.720 satan Ford with In the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:55.320 the Arizona Cardinals select Zaven Collins, linebacker, tell us up, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.360 we really liked him. Our coaching staff, our scouting staff, 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.760 everybody as a hole had him as one of our 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.800 higher rated defensive players in the entire draft. He also 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.240 had an Alpha tag, which for us, the Alpha Bird 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.360 tag is given to players that have rare leadership qualities, 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.760 great end staying scrat field for the game, are tremendous 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.400 locker room guys, and Xavin Collins is certainly one of them. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.560 You got to elevate all your game coming in as 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.800 a rookie to play at this level. You know, no 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.080 matter where you're at, you got to elevate every single 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.640 part of your game because those guys who have been 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.839 here for four or five years, they know way more 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.000 than you, and they're way better than you. They have 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.560 efficient movement, they have him efficient minds. You can see 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.600 it whenever you watch them. There he goes, Zavan Collins, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.360 the first round rookie, preceded by the GM Steve Kim, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.920 who also shared with the media wolf that about a 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.040 half dozen prospects in the entire draft had that Alpha 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:53.920 bird tag. Zavin Collins was one of those guys. And 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.960 it's all about you, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.959 It is the big Red Rage. We told you we're 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.839 loaded like a Ron Wolfley dinner played around here. We 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.680 welcome on board the linebackers. Coach Bill Davis always a 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.880 pleasure to talk with, Billy, and coach you tell us 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.000 this time a year ago, you couldn't get anywhere near 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.040 the gridiron, and you're coming off an actual practice right 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.480 and ota on the field with pretty much the entire team, 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:22.960 So that's got to be a step in the right direction. Absolutely, guys, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.840 we couldn't have been happier to be out on the 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.600 field today. It feels like a million years since we 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.160 had a normal off season after this one's normal quite yet, 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.200 but we're moving in the right direction, and it's just 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.559 it makes such a difference to have those great athletes 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.719 out there going through the assignments and stepping through them 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.880 and physically doing the things that we're asking them to 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.960 do during the season. And it was a shame last 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.720 year that a young talent like Isaiah Simmons couldn't get 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.480 the reps and do all that, and the growth that happens. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.320 A lot of people don't really understand growth that happens 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.920 in the off season with younger players, no doubt. Aby 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.160 to coach, Oh my goodness, man, it's so good to 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.280 talk to you. You had to be out there looking 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.720 at Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons and coach you had 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:12.559 to be drooling. These guys look pretty good, right, how 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.240 kid you not? Well, I can't, honestly. You know. My 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.240 first takeaway and this was rookie minicamp, and because Zaven 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.840 Collins came over near the sideline where us media pencil 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.880 necks were standing, I'm like, this guy's a middle linebacker. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.040 He's six five, two sixty. Is that Does that present 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.400 a challenge in anyway? Billy? Well, you know, it's it 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.720 kind of takes me back. Well, if you remember the 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.800 days where the backers were all built like that, they 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.040 were all up there and because you had to take 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.960 on guards and there was more odd drums and it 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.120 was just a different time and a different offense it 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.280 was coming your way. So it kind of just takes 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.080 me back to early stages in my own career. You know, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.280 working with guys like Lavan Kirkland and those bigger guys, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.080 you could run that they had to be big because 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.040 of you know, the downhill run game, the two back 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.080 run game that was coming at you. So when I 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.920 actually went to tall So to Zaban's pro day, the 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.720 first thing that jumped out of me was the way 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.960 in and the measure, and I said, oh, my goodness, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.680 this is a big boy. His head's big, his hands 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.120 are big as wrists are big. And I was really 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.560 anxious to see him, moved to see how he carried 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:20.800 that size, so pleasantly surprised how easily he carried the 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.720 two hundred and sixty sixty five pounds. And I think 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.960 that that went a long way in us, the evaluation 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.920 of saying, oh, yeah, he is big and the weight 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.480 is up there, but boy, it just it looks right 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.680 and he carries it well, and that makes a big 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.240 difference when when you weigh that much. So, Billy, how 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:42.400 involved was this practice? This ota practice? So how involved 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.840 did you guys get? Were there any checks for Zaban 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.880 out there? Oh? Yeah, absolutely. Now we were very limited 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.280 what we can do. So what we do defensively is 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.920 we set up a bunch of different barrels of eleven 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.400 offensive players. There's three different stations, and we have the guys. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.040 We make a call and they line up to an 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.960 offensive structure or formation, and they have to make all 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.920 their calls. So as they run from one to another 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.600 to another, we give them different calls and a different formation. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.359 So it's a way that we kind of get multiple 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:18.760 calls against multiple formational structures. And within Matt, each call 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.240 has some moving carts to it. And so far in 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.080 the two weeks that I've had them, two and a 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.920 half weeks, we put nine installs, and within each install 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.440 there's about ten to fifteen calls defensive calls that you 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.040 have to learn, and we've got through ten of them 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.320 now and he's really got a great aptitude for picking 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:44.160 up and understanding and digesting the scheme. So far, we're 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.240 on board. Bill Davis linebackers coach, Arizona Cardinals. A big 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.680 red rate presented by satan Ford and Gilbert. So simply 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.640 put Billy, what's the risk reward and given a rookie 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:59.840 the green dot to call the defense from day one. Well, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.760 no matter how smart you are, no matter how football 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.480 intelligent y are, a rookie year is a rookie year, 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.840 and there's going to be growth that has to happen, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:15.680 and the growth comes through error and stake correction. And 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.760 sometimes the best lesson a young guy can learn is 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.280 the mistake, like Isaiah in the first game against San 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.320 Fran getting out of the leverage in the coverage of 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.159 the running back out of the backfield that went for 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.960 eighty yards. It's a lesson that he didn't he didn't 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.960 blow that particular assignment. Again the whole year, those things happen. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.880 You realize they're going to happen when they start is rookies. 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.200 It happens to all positions. I don't care if you're 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.440 the quarterback. I don't care if you're a receiver or 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.080 a dB. I'll give you the first overall pick or 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.480 a third round pick. You play your rookie year, you're 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.840 going to have to grow through some mistakes. And again 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.600 that happens because our game is different than the college game. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:01.120 The amount of defensive information that you have to process 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.760 in the mic linebacker position. The true art of playing 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.439 the mic backer is the quarterback of our defense is 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:12.280 the ability to communicate to all ten other defensive players 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.679 their responsibility, meaning we have to set the front and 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.719 that's how people get aligned. And then we have to 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.040 make the secondary cause of where a pressure is coming 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.360 or where a stunt might happen. And within Matt, you've 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.320 got to be able to align everybody up, communicate to 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.159 what we're seeing in the offensive structure formation, and then 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.399 when they motion, we have to make the appropriate adjustment 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.440 to the motion. And oh yeah, by the way, after that, 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.080 you have to do your own job at a high level. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.880 Most guys can do their own job at high level. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.720 It's only a few can line everybody else up and 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.320 do their job effectively. Billy, how is Isaiah Simmons processing 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:59.160 this defense? And do you envision him being helped for Zavin? Absolutely, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.600 Isaiah's got a football mind. One of the things that 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.600 I've never had a chance to talk about it very often, 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:10.160 but Isaiah. Last year we trained Isaiah in six different 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.879 defensive positions. We had the MIC linebacker, the MO linebacker, 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.879 and the SAM linebacker, where three of the linebacker spots 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.160 he had to learn. And in college he never really 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.720 played the micer, the MO, the inside spot. He was 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.080 always more of the edge player. Then we trained him 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.520 as a nickel the strong safety and the free safety 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:34.040 and without an off season or a preseason game, so 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.399 he had six positions to learn. Zaban has won Zavan 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.600 learning the mic linebacker spot and through all that, Isaiah 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.760 as the season went on and he got more and 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.480 more comfortable with those different positions and all the different 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.639 hats we had him wearing, all of a sudden, his 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.359 mind slowed down and that body activated, and you saw 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.520 him make some plays. And we're really excited about an 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.560 off season when Isaiah some preseason games and the growth 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.400 that's going to happen there because he's got a really 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.200 high football like you, and he's very one of the 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.679 things you find and the more you coach and the 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.399 more you're round in the game. Not everyone can go 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.959 out there and have a relaxed mind but play fast. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.840 And Isaiah's got that ability. And when he comes to 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.280 the sideline and he tells me it happened a certain way, 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.960 Isaiah's usually right. He calmly saw it, he recognized it, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:26.439 and he could give it back to me. There's some 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.840 guys come side line and say, hey, coach, the left 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:33.199 guard pull and the tight end slashed across the BACKFIELDE No, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.479 but it didn't And you look at the picture, said no, Son, 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.399 it didn't even come close to happen. What were you 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.680 looking at? Well, Isaiah's the guy that when he says 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.520 that it is what he said it was, and that's 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.520 that's a good sign of him of his mind to 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.160 being calm and being able to function that high level 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.760 Bill Davis, Cardinal's linebackers coach. Here on the Big Red 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.000 Rage presented by Santan Forn and Gilbert a year ago, 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.199 Isaiah Simmons had Devandre Campbell in front of him. So 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:58.919 I don't know if this is classifying in form or not, 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.120 but is he going to play six different positions this year? 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:06.320 Or do you see him sticking at that inside backer spot. Well, 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.400 the home base will now be the inside backer Moe 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:14.359 Dime spot, but we will still because he's a Swiss 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.080 Army knife that it is very, very frustrating for an 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.520 offense to see isa out there and not be able 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:25.800 to identify his position. Is he the other safety? Is 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.760 he the sambacker? Is he the mic? Is the mo? 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.120 And really those identifications to an offense has a lot 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.760 to do with their protections, has a lot to do 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.320 with how they're blocking scheme will online. So we find 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.879 we get a pretty good advantage by moving him around 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.439