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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ravens Press Pass Podcast. It is Friday,

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Speaker 1: December eighth, and the Ravens were repairing to play the

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Speaker 1: La Rams on Sunday at M and T Banks Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Sean Horriball I met with the media today

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Speaker 1: and talked about that game coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 2: It was a great day for the guys practicing, which

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Speaker 2: I appreciate as a coach. They were high energy and sharp,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna need to be because we're playing a

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Speaker 2: very good team in some tough conditions on Sunday. But

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Speaker 2: we're looking forward to it and looking forward to our

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Speaker 2: fans being out there and being raucous. It's a good word, right,

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Speaker 2: you know how to spell that one?

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Speaker 3: Jamison?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what questions you have?

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Speaker 3: How is Lamar feeling today?

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Speaker 2: He was feeling good, full life, full life. He looked

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Speaker 2: good out there and he was back and he's recovered.

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Speaker 4: So Odell was not out there here just at that

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Speaker 4: day or.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was my day.

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Speaker 2: Given the day to day, he had two two really

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Speaker 2: good days of practice.

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Speaker 1: More of miss five games each and the past your

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Speaker 1: season down to stretch the poor Ruxuries that having back

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Speaker 1: this year for that stretch run they.

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Speaker 4: Get keeps run the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, December football is so important. It's a

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Speaker 2: it's advent, you know, the advent we are. We are

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Speaker 2: seeking something, an advent and we're definitely seeking something from

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Speaker 2: a football perspective in December. So that's what we're after

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Speaker 2: right now. I know you like that one. We just

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Speaker 2: kind of say, yeah, that works, that works. But uh,

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Speaker 2: but we want to be at our best, you know,

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Speaker 2: and obviously having Lamar and and all the guys where

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Speaker 2: they're at right now ready to go is something that

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Speaker 2: we're excited about. But we've got something, some things to accomplish,

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Speaker 2: and it starts, uh, but just playing our best football

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Speaker 2: from day to day and from game to game.

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Speaker 3: Marcus Williams, feeling better more on hum Free, said he's

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Speaker 3: ready to go. How difficult are kind of.

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Speaker 2: The decisions that come even on game day just with

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Speaker 2: having all those guys.

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Speaker 3: Ready to play.

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Speaker 4: All the guys have contributed at this point, but now

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Speaker 4: you you know, you have to make a secrets in

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Speaker 4: the secretary.

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Speaker 2: No question. I mean, there's gonna be healthy scratches. You know,

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Speaker 2: we haven't had too many healthy scratches this year, so

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Speaker 2: there'll be some healthy scratches. And that's not an indication

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Speaker 2: obviously of how well guys can contribute for us, because

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Speaker 2: they've contributed already so well. So it's just gonna be

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Speaker 2: kind of strategic based on what we're faced with, and

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Speaker 2: you know what gives us the best chance to deal

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Speaker 2: with whatever we have to deal with during the game

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Speaker 2: personnel wise.

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Speaker 5: This is sort of an Hubball Friday question brought what's

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Speaker 5: the sort of other science behind how do you pair

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Speaker 5: guys up in the locker room? How do you how

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Speaker 5: do you do the neighbor of the.

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Speaker 3: Science of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of science that goes into that,

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Speaker 2: however you want to describe it.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big science guy.

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Speaker 2: You know, remember the Saturday Night Live skit when they

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Speaker 2: were busting Tom Brady for not being a science computer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that that line right there. Yeah, like a science computer would. Uh,

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Speaker 2: it's it's just it's just a field thing. I work

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Speaker 2: with Megan mcgloughlin on it because she's in charge of

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Speaker 2: the locker room, uh lockers and who gets them and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So we just kind of work together on it and

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Speaker 2: just just move guys around as we go. It's really

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Speaker 2: it's really you could put anybody next to anybody in

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Speaker 2: And we do like to mix it up. We don't

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Speaker 2: put them by position, we don't put them by jersey number.

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Speaker 2: We put them by uh, you know, life, just move

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Speaker 2: them around. And I think it helps. I think it

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Speaker 2: helps guys get to know different guys, which is a

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Speaker 2: good thing. Do you have like a little chart that

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Speaker 2: you have everybody we have we're organized yeh, science computer stuff, Yeah, exactly, charts, charts,

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Speaker 5: That, giving you a chuckle inside, just the idea of

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Speaker 3: You don't have to specify with Lots are the ones.

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Speaker 2: That nobody has ever said. I've never had a complaint,

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Speaker 2: nobody's ever chuckled, nobody's ever said anything to me about it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody just just goes and grabs their stuff. Wherever the

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Speaker 2: name is over their locker, that's where they go. That's

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Speaker 2: how that's And we appreciate.

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Speaker 4: That players have any say or like based on senuity

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Speaker 1: Case you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, usually the guys who've been here

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Speaker 2: the longest get the best spots. You know, I am

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Speaker 2: conscious of that. I know which I know what the

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Speaker 2: you know, the good spots are you know the good lots. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they get the bigger lots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's done.

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Speaker 2: You and Joey having Jerry back on the field, and

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Speaker 2: great to have Jerry back. It's he's good to see

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Speaker 2: him out there. It's always fun when Jerry rolls into town,

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Speaker 2: you know. So, uh and actually you're picking his brain

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Speaker 2: a little bit. He watches us, you know, and uh, Jack,

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Speaker 2: Well he was out there in the middle of things.

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Speaker 3: I saw that. So it looks like coaching.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's it's part of It's definitely his

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Speaker 2: who he is.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He gave me some good, good, good philosophy this morning,

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Speaker 2: so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Did you check out the trophies on your way in

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Speaker 1: and and have any thoughts on your way back the

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Speaker 1: soccer trophies.

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Speaker 2: Well, the soccer trophies, Uh I did. They're really big trophies,

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Speaker 2: got bigger than ours. Our Lombardi Trophy is not that big.

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Speaker 3: You know that, But I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that the value is necessarily in size

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Speaker 2: of the trophy. Although what they accomplished was pretty incredible, right,

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Speaker 2: and you know, to to to win across the board

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Speaker 2: like that like a Grand Slam kind of soccer. Right,

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of getting more into soccer now. We've

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Speaker 2: we've had a chance to meet some people in the

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Speaker 2: in the business the other football and uh, it's it's

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Speaker 2: really cool. It's a cool sport. So uh, Plus I'm

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Speaker 2: a big fan of the show, you know, Ted Lasso.

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Speaker 4: So John, we're gonna hear from Josh Bines in a

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Speaker 4: moment for to have a player like that, I mean,

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Speaker 4: he came in as an undrafted rookie, was here, helped

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Speaker 4: But what's it like to to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 4: him to come back and retire as a Raven?

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, you know, Josh Bienes is announcing his retirement

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Speaker 2: as a Raven today. His whole family's here, His beautiful

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Speaker 2: family's here with his with his amazing wife and kids,

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Speaker 2: and they'll be walking around here right now. Look at

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Speaker 2: look at this family, and and he's got a couple

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Speaker 2: of sons of probably be looking at Michigan here. In

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Speaker 2: a couple of years, Ozzie was trying to recruit for

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Speaker 2: Alabama already Josh said, absolutely not because where did Josh

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Speaker 2: go to school? Auburn, Right War Eagle. So, but to

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Speaker 2: me it's kind of jo is a person, player, man

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Speaker 2: who epitomizes the opportunity that football represents. Okay, the true

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Speaker 2: meritocracy that we like to talk about in football, that

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Speaker 2: no matter where you come from, no matter where you've been,

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Speaker 2: your background, whatever it is, how heralded you are or

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Speaker 2: you are not, how much you've talked about, whatever it

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Speaker 2: might be, the content of your character, your talent, your

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Speaker 2: work effort, effort, your ability just to find a way

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Speaker 2: job may be. To me, that's what Josh Bines represents.

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Speaker 2: As you said, undrafted free agent. Probably people probably weren't

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Speaker 2: betting on him to make the team even way back then.

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Speaker 2: Twelve seasons later twelve as starter almost every game for

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Speaker 2: twelve seasons, productive starter, making tackles, setting records for tackles,

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Speaker 2: all the things he did. And then not just that

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Speaker 2: have to produce, but the locker room, the leadership, the mentorship,

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Speaker 2: he is. I think guys look at that and it

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Speaker 3: And I know that.

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Speaker 2: I know he's been there for guys just to talk

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Speaker 2: what a hall of famer is to me, you know,

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Speaker 2: A hall of famer, Yeah, he's he's that kind of

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Speaker 2: a player that deserves that kind of recognition in terms

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Speaker 2: someone like that. And uh So, without any further ado,

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Speaker 2: Josh Mines.

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Speaker 6: I hang on, thats y all. I'm kind of it's

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Speaker 6: kind of surreal. It hits you kind of kind of quick.

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Speaker 6: I'm not an emotional person, but like I just like

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Speaker 6: this league has done for me. I'm just gonna start

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Speaker 6: by just saying I appreciate, uh my parents first and

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Speaker 6: just think, you know, my Arbumn University first War Eagle.

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Speaker 6: I know we came up shruggers out down, but we'll

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Speaker 6: come back to her about it. Just forgive me opportunity,

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Speaker 6: a kid out of for ladder deal, just trying to

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Speaker 6: to give me opportunity obviously to meet my wife, who

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Speaker 3: So that's been a huge thing.

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Speaker 6: And U and I appreciate Auburn for that, and I

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Speaker 6: appreciate Harps and Ozzy and Eric, you know, forgive me

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Speaker 6: opportunity twenty eleven, give me opportunity to come here as

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Speaker 6: a Raven. It wasn't easy at all, you know, as

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Speaker 6: Harbor said, it just you know, gave me some.

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Speaker 3: Gave me gave me a little a little welcome to

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Speaker 6: But it also propelled me to go every everywhere else

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Speaker 6: I know, way in Baltimore I was sorry, but they

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Speaker 6: can give me opportunities. I don't know if I'd have

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this very small thank you such and

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Speaker 6: for just one time, just you know, because if they

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Speaker 6: for every single person get opportunity. And I just like

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Speaker 6: to thank definitely my wife, like to for twelve years.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how she did. And being home with

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Speaker 6: and being able to coach my oldest son come here.

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Speaker 3: Every it happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: Anybody else, now, thank you all for having me. I

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