Speaker 1: A hi family drama queens here. As you know, our
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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know.
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Speaker 4: This was our one hundred episode. This was the host.
Speaker 4: We're going to have to talk about that party you got.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, crazy, yeah, all right, give him the rundown
Speaker 2: on what the episode was joy.
Speaker 1: On the one hundredth episode of One Tree Hill, It's
Speaker 1: Lucas and Lindsay's wedding day. Karen returns to Tree Hill
Speaker 1: from New Zealand with Cutie Patuiti Andy. Nathan uses the
Speaker 1: occasion to attempt a reconciliation with Haley, who's super grouch,
Speaker 1: and Lindsey realizes that the altar that Lucas still loves
Speaker 1: comment Peyton and says she can't marry him. In all
Speaker 1: the chaos of Lindsay leaving Lucas at the altar, Jeanie
Speaker 1: goes missing Nanny Carey and the recently parole Dan, who
Speaker 1: showed up to the wedding uninvited after sleeping with the
Speaker 1: hooker that's like the only hooker in tree Hill.
Speaker 4: Apparently she works at the Sporting Good story. You know,
Speaker 4: she's got a day job.
Speaker 1: So confused, he follows Nanny Carey and rescues Jamie.
Speaker 2: Wow, God, I remember filming this one so well, like
Speaker 2: the dream sequence of Peyton and Lucas walking out of
Speaker 2: the church. Yeah, it was the first time I'd ever
Speaker 2: worn a wedding dress in my life, and I remember
Speaker 2: in that moment thinking, oh, weird, like this is the
Speaker 2: first time I've ever worn a wedding dress. And I'm
Speaker 2: with Chad and it's pretend like it's not real life,
Speaker 2: but it looks real. What a weird experience. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was strange.
Speaker 1: How did you do anything with it? Or was it
Speaker 1: just one of those where you're like, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to put this on a weird show well and leave
Speaker 1: it alone.
Speaker 2: I was engaged in real life at the time still,
Speaker 2: and it like wasn't going great, you know, like we
Speaker 2: ended up breaking up at the end of season five,
Speaker 2: and I just remember thinking.
Speaker 4: Am I actually going to do this in real life
Speaker 4: and be like, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't know it. It was a
Speaker 2: practice run to see how it felt, and I didn't like.
Speaker 3: It, honestly, respect It's hard Once the trains left the
Speaker 3: station to do an emergency break. Oh wait, can we
Speaker 3: talk about the real thing?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: And I said this when we were watching episode that
Speaker 3: dress was so good on you.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, the dress with the little collar,
Speaker 4: it was like a but a gown. It was so gorgeous.
Speaker 4: I like that dress.
Speaker 2: And that dress is better than the one that Peyton
Speaker 2: ends up wearing at the actual wedding, but it is
Speaker 2: totally pregnant.
Speaker 4: Then, Oh man.
Speaker 1: I wish you had kept that dress. I know, I
Speaker 1: wish she kept it and died it.
Speaker 2: Black Brooke could have let it out, We could have
Speaker 2: put some panels in the side.
Speaker 4: We could have totally worked it out.
Speaker 1: That would have been a fun recall.
Speaker 2: Sophia made the point that our characters always had our
Speaker 2: characters always had weddings in churches, and none of us
Speaker 2: went to church.
Speaker 3: Oh that's funny, right, Like it's always so weird to me,
Speaker 3: Like when you see Dan go to confession whatever season
Speaker 3: that was, that that happened where we all were like, what.
Speaker 4: Is he doing? And I'm like what.
Speaker 3: There is no relationship to any version of any kind
Speaker 3: of faith on our show. But then anytime anyone gets married,
Speaker 3: it's in a church, and I'm like, these people.
Speaker 4: Don't go to church. Ironically, Haley did not.
Speaker 1: She got married out in out in the woods or something,
Speaker 1: I don't remember where they got married. They got them
Speaker 1: on the beach, and then like out in the some.
Speaker 2: Property because you had the hippie parents. Your hippie parents
Speaker 2: would have ever condoned. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4: And then Peyton and.
Speaker 3: Lucas got married. Were we at Aarly gardens? Is that
Speaker 3: where we did y'all?
Speaker 2: We're in Greenfield, lad, it was supposed to be. I
Speaker 2: think we were trying to double it as the place
Speaker 2: where he and I met, and it's clearly not the
Speaker 2: same place, and at that point we just didn't care anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, I was supposed to in season whatever it was,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess would it eight that Brooke
Speaker 3: and Julian got married and we were supposed to get
Speaker 3: married at the Biltmore Mansion and do a full like
Speaker 3: company move to Ashville, And we scouted it and we
Speaker 3: went and did an episode there where we picked out
Speaker 3: our venue and then yeah, then they just shot at Biltmore. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Austin and I went shot at the Biltmore Mansion. And
Speaker 3: then they did this whole thing where Brooke loses all
Speaker 3: their money and I get married in.
Speaker 4: The Lucas and Lindsay Church, I can't wait, sad wedding
Speaker 4: toy with you like that. I don't know. I was like, guys,
Speaker 4: that's so dark.
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize it was the same one until
Speaker 3: we we looked at this episode and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I remember that wood paneling.
Speaker 4: Didn't like it then, don't like it now? No, it's
Speaker 4: right up the street from Karen's Cafe.
Speaker 2: I feel like our base camp probably stayed where it
Speaker 2: always is, and we just shuttled between Close Over Bros.
Speaker 1: And the church. I wonder if it was a numbers thing,
Speaker 1: like is it Does it help with ratings? The Seventh
Speaker 1: Heaven was on the air at the time, and you know,
Speaker 1: there's something about like a church that seems wholesome and
Speaker 1: people maybe I don't know why, Like why do you?
Speaker 4: I think it was just cheap.
Speaker 3: I think it was cheap to shoot there. I think
Speaker 3: we got to double up on our base camp. And
Speaker 3: when you shoot inside a building like that, it's really
Speaker 3: easy to tent it or do day for night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, yeah, it's so much.
Speaker 3: Easier to control than when we did y'all's weddings outside
Speaker 3: and we'd run out.
Speaker 2: A day light.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we'd run out of daylight.
Speaker 2: There were bugs, there were trains and planes and all
Speaker 2: sorts of dumb things. No, the church was great because
Speaker 2: it was walking distance to downtown, so we could go
Speaker 2: walk to Ports City Java between takes and.
Speaker 4: Loved that we'd go get a sandwich. I need a sandwich.
Speaker 2: But it was good that we were saving money on
Speaker 2: locations because we had everyone in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yes, except Joe and Chase, but that's Okay, they kind
Speaker 1: of lift out for this one.
Speaker 4: They have five they were new.
Speaker 2: Part of the reason that we had it we went
Speaker 2: back is because it was our one hundredth episode, which
Speaker 2: for the people at home that don't work in television,
Speaker 2: what did it used to mean when you hit one
Speaker 2: hundred episodes?
Speaker 1: Ooh, it used to mean syndication got a magic word.
Speaker 4: Magic word.
Speaker 1: That's when they would rerun your shows late at night
Speaker 1: or early in the morning.
Speaker 3: Or that's how people used to pay their mortgages kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no more, that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, now you do maximum three seasons of a
Speaker 3: streaming show with like ten episodes, and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, so, yeah, you did it, and that's it. Got
Speaker 4: to go have a second job.
Speaker 2: No. For channels like soap Net where we were, or
Speaker 2: they were like, I feel like TNT and TBS and
Speaker 2: a lot of those channels as well, would do a
Speaker 2: lot of syndicated shows where you had to have a
Speaker 2: library of at least one hundred so that they knew
Speaker 2: they had X amount of months of programming out of
Speaker 2: your show. And once we hit that magic one hundred number,
Speaker 2: it was It's so rare in the industry to hit
Speaker 2: that number, and once you do, you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be okay. You know, I might not
Speaker 2: book another job as the lead on a TV show,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to be okay and be able to
Speaker 2: support a family. And unfortunately now that means zero, which
Speaker 2: is why we're on strike.
Speaker 4: God, soap No was so cool.
Speaker 2: It would air like us in Dawson's Creek, back to back,
Speaker 2: It's a whole Wilmington power hour.
Speaker 1: They also aired actual soaps that It was really fun
Speaker 1: for me because I loved watching soaps when I was
Speaker 1: a teenager. And to be able to go back and
Speaker 1: watch all my children, all the episodes I missed from
Speaker 1: the eighties nineties, it was so fun. Girl.
Speaker 2: The One Life to Live story arcs, I still references, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, remember Todd Marty Man.
Speaker 4: They drew me in.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even into One Life to Live until Todd
Speaker 1: Marty was on a couple of times after school and
Speaker 1: I was done with all my children and just let
Speaker 1: the TV run.
Speaker 2: But it was also the beginning of programming for women.
Speaker 2: You know, there were not a lot of channels that
Speaker 2: understood that storylines geared towards women were marketable and financially smart,
Speaker 2: and they were treated as like these dumb, frivolous you know,
Speaker 2: like Grandma's watching her stories. Meanwhile, you know, for anybody
Speaker 2: who's a fan of One Tree Hill, we know that
Speaker 2: telling stories that are character based and empathy based are
Speaker 2: are great and important. And with the success of Barbie,
Speaker 2: you know, I think we're seeing that products for women
Speaker 2: are valuable.
Speaker 4: We're not dangdongs. We just want a good, good story, man.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: We want to spend our money on things that we
Speaker 1: love and love our stories. So we love character driven things.
Speaker 2: Imagine having feelings about thinks. Wow, how silly all those feelings. Well,
Speaker 2: a lot of big feelings in those ones.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. It starts with that eighties song. What
Speaker 4: was that? It was Springsteen song? Right girl, my hometown?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we really spent some money.
Speaker 1: Can we afford that? I don't know. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: I guess they just caught a bunch of it was
Speaker 1: Springsteen and Montree Hill dream Team.
Speaker 3: I mean that was pretty cool. I have to say
Speaker 3: I liked the Springsteen vibe. I loved this idea that
Speaker 3: Lucas was mirroring something that he grew up loving. With
Speaker 3: Keith and Karen, Jamie with Hayley, But why in that voiceover.
Speaker 4: I hated the fact that.
Speaker 3: The voiceover never synced with you guys in the car,
Speaker 3: even with Jamie talking and Luke talking. I was like,
Speaker 3: sink it up, let them talk to each other and
Speaker 3: then take it back into the voiceover, and they never
Speaker 3: did it. And I couldn't concentrate on how cute y'all
Speaker 3: were being because I was so annoyed that even when
Speaker 3: we had two and a half minutes on your faces
Speaker 3: in the car, you were never talking to each other.
Speaker 4: For real. It made me feel nuts.
Speaker 1: That's a that's your OCD.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious, but joy it seems like they shot a
Speaker 2: scene and then like us parts of it and added
Speaker 2: voiceover later, like what do you remember.
Speaker 1: From No, No, it was just we were just on
Speaker 1: the on the trailer, driving the car. Talking. In the car,
Speaker 1: Jackson was having a ball, leaning over and steering the
Speaker 1: wheel and like I mean, obviously he was on the
Speaker 1: back of the truck, but he was still having a
Speaker 1: good time. And it was all the you know, look
Speaker 1: over this, look over the wheel and make that face
Speaker 1: and just shit chat and yeah, because they knew it
Speaker 1: was a long voiceover. I really liked the opening a lot,
Speaker 1: but what I do agree with is that it didn't
Speaker 1: ever There's no cohesive like it didn't come back in
Speaker 1: the end. There wasn't a through line throughout the rest
Speaker 1: of the story. It was just again, this episode felt
Speaker 1: which is strange because one of our editors directed it,
Speaker 1: and this may not be his fault, might just be
Speaker 1: the writing, but it felt choppy to me. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that just was kind of like
Speaker 1: all jumbled and thrown together.
Speaker 4: This was still the writers strike. Oh yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: So including all the Dan and Carey stuff, it was
Speaker 1: like there wasn't It was like we were in a
Speaker 1: family drama and then now we're in a horror movie
Speaker 1: and there was no blend. It was just no seamless blend,
Speaker 1: which that irritated me. Well, it was more funny than anything,
Speaker 1: I guess. No, I really like Easter Eggs. But what
Speaker 1: we noticed is that this episode happened to be really
Speaker 1: heavy handed and really like pat myself on the back
Speaker 1: because it was like, look at the comparison Keith, Karen
Speaker 1: and Lucas to.
Speaker 2: Hayley, Lucas and Jamie, look at the comparison Nathan to Dan,
Speaker 2: look at the comparison, you know, Peyton and Brooke, who
Speaker 2: both just want families to Karen, Like every single thing
Speaker 2: was a callback. And maybe that was intentional because it
Speaker 2: was one hundredth episode, but it did feel like we
Speaker 2: were just constantly ringing a bell and we didn't need
Speaker 2: to because we had enough actual movement in the narrative.
Speaker 4: I wonder if.
Speaker 1: Because of the strike and there were so many, just
Speaker 1: so many things to try and hit that maybe the
Speaker 1: episode got rewritten like ten to six to ten times,
Speaker 1: like somebody just kept coming in and rewriting and rewriting,
Speaker 1: and they were just all these really weird like leftover
Speaker 1: ghosts of other drafts.
Speaker 2: I think it was written before our season even started,
Speaker 2: so that by the time we got in production for
Speaker 2: this episode, there was no you weren't allowed to fix things.
Speaker 1: You were you couldn't, that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was no.
Speaker 2: Nuance, so it was yeah, it was one person calling
Speaker 2: all the shots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it did feel heavy.
Speaker 3: It was like, let me tie all these themes together
Speaker 3: for you, and you were, like, everyone who's been watching
Speaker 3: the show for one hundred episodes.
Speaker 4: Knows what the themes are. You don't have to remind
Speaker 4: them so hard. God, we have a smart audience, you know,
Speaker 4: like you don't them over the head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh boy, Well I did love all the dream sequences.
Speaker 1: I thought those were kind of fun, just the drifting
Speaker 1: off into thought and seeing Peyton stand up at the
Speaker 1: wedding and seeing Brooke dreaming of herself in the dress.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Haley had one, but I can't.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're kissing in the rain. Oh yeah, So that
Speaker 4: was the day.
Speaker 1: We were drinking moonshine and making out in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: and it's one of my favorite moments by the show.
Speaker 3: Was supplying you guys with the moonshine?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not was was a friend of ours on the
Speaker 1: crew supplying you with more shine.
Speaker 2: The name and everyone we worked with is gonna be
Speaker 2: like we know exactly who they're talking to.
Speaker 3: Do I still have two jars left of that moonshine
Speaker 3: and my freezer like precious cargo in this house?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I wouldn't give?
Speaker 3: Come on, Oh girl, I've hoarded it over the last
Speaker 3: ten years.
Speaker 4: I've gone down.
Speaker 2: I just love, like, how do you explain to new
Speaker 2: people in your life, like a new friend that comes
Speaker 2: over a new housekeeper, like, don't don't touch that.
Speaker 4: You just say don't touch.
Speaker 1: Don't, Yeah, don't touch. That's that's good because it's a
Speaker 1: little creepy too, like don't I don't know what's in that.
Speaker 3: It's gasoline. It's North Carolina gasoline.
Speaker 1: I just dropped my dog off to get trained with
Speaker 1: somebody who lives really out in the sticks in Tennessee,
Speaker 1: and I pulled up into the yard and it's great.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited for But I definitely definitely saw an
Speaker 1: outdoor bathtub with all the stuff to make moonshine. What
Speaker 1: you making there? Oh, you know, just to messing around
Speaker 1: with some I'm like, yeah, I know what that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely had some moonshine on set. That day was
Speaker 1: a late it was late we had been shooting. It
Speaker 1: was the last scene of the day, and it was
Speaker 1: one of those ones where we were hanging around not
Speaker 1: sure if we actually were going to get to that
Speaker 1: scene or not, or if they were just going to
Speaker 1: bump it and put it on a different day. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of special effects. I got
Speaker 1: to rig hoses up on the ceiling. They got to
Speaker 1: make sure that the water pressure is dripping at the
Speaker 1: exact right, and the timing because it was drip drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip,
Speaker 1: drip drip, and then suddenly a downpour, so they had
Speaker 1: to time all that out. But practicing that timing is
Speaker 1: difficult because what are you going to practice on the set,
Speaker 1: And if the set is wet, that makes it extra difficult. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to start over. So there was a lot
Speaker 1: of technical difficulties. And I remember us rushing it, and
Speaker 1: but I had been we had been just bored all day,
Speaker 1: just sitting there waiting to see if we were going
Speaker 1: to get to that scene. So at some point somebody
Speaker 1: me busted out the moonshine and we had.
Speaker 4: Did you just say? Somebody me?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 4: Somebody asked listen.
Speaker 3: That's how you know you're one hundred episodes in. You're like,
Speaker 3: we don't even have to talk. Come on, let's have
Speaker 3: a cocktail.
Speaker 4: Wait. Did James do it too? Of course he was
Speaker 4: like James is.
Speaker 1: Such a professional. He was like no, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: And then I was like you want some No, and
Speaker 1: I'm good. And then like an hour later, I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you want something. He's like, yeah, right we finally started shooting.
Speaker 1: I was like, if I have to be making out
Speaker 1: in the when I was inside rain, inside in the rain,
Speaker 1: and it's like a technical and I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, screw it, let's just but it was hot.
Speaker 4: It was like I didn't realize it was a dream.
Speaker 2: And as someone who's been in a very long relationship,
Speaker 2: you don't have a long relationship without having a couple
Speaker 2: of fights here and there.
Speaker 4: And I have absolutely lived that moment of like what
Speaker 4: are you doing here? Put your face on my face
Speaker 4: right now? Yes, come here, come here.
Speaker 1: I love those moments, I know. Yeah, yeah. The makeup
Speaker 1: stuff is good.
Speaker 3: For our friends at home, who are like, why have
Speaker 3: you guys not discussed this yet? We're both in the States,
Speaker 3: now you're in London, which is hilarious. We've traded places,
Speaker 3: I know. I so Joy watched it separately, you guys,
Speaker 3: because she's meeting us after a dinner.
Speaker 4: She had there with the.
Speaker 3: Time change, and when I tell you, Hillary and I
Speaker 3: were watching the episode before you got on the zoom.
Speaker 4: And I was like, is this mad lips? What is happening?
Speaker 3: Like I couldn't I couldn't remember what was coming and
Speaker 3: then there would be these moments where I'd go, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I know what I know what this person's
Speaker 3: going to say. I know what this person's going to do.
Speaker 3: And when the water first started, I didn't realize it
Speaker 3: was your dream sequence, and I was like, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: is the bathtub gonna come through the ceiling?
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I had a panic because I thought
Speaker 4: the ceiling was getting drowned upstairs. Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, oh, oh it's oh, it's
Speaker 3: a dream. Oh it's sexy. It's like the rain and
Speaker 3: the Okay, I get what's happening. In high school, I
Speaker 3: got I got I gotta got it. I was ready
Speaker 3: for a disaster.
Speaker 2: I think everyone's fantasies make sense. Yeah except Brooks. Except
Speaker 2: Brooks with the wedding drass.
Speaker 3: It was sweet, but I was confused. You guys, this
Speaker 3: never made sense. As soon as it started. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I know what's coming. Because they they wanted.
Speaker 4: To get into the storyline of Brooke wanting to have.
Speaker 3: A kid cool, which so weird, great, fine, weird, super weird. Also,
Speaker 3: I don't like the thing of like I have a
Speaker 3: void and a baby's gonna fill it. A baby is
Speaker 3: not a band aid.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That was such a bad time. I was like,
Speaker 1: do these have to be said in the same sentence?
Speaker 1: This is bad?
Speaker 3: And by the way, you can see who wrote this
Speaker 3: episode as a solo writer, and the misogyny dripping from
Speaker 3: it was like, I'm so unfulfilled. I'm successful, but I'm
Speaker 3: empty inside because as a woman, I can't I can't
Speaker 3: possibly be happy unless I have a baby. And then
Speaker 3: even with you, when you confronted Dan outside and he
Speaker 3: basically like tells you he's having a sexual fantasy about you, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, no, no, was that no?
Speaker 4: Like this whole.
Speaker 3: Episode was dripping with Yeah, we did not have any
Speaker 3: female writers in the room get to edit this or
Speaker 3: do a polish on it grossness.
Speaker 2: Or raise their hand and be like, oh maybe just
Speaker 2: consider like maybe don't even Andy's line about lindsay.
Speaker 4: Ew ew about like yeah until she sees me.
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, that's like your steps on, that's so gross.
Speaker 3: It's all so gross and we know why, but ill gross.
Speaker 3: And for me, the less of ick I was like
Speaker 3: Brooke Davis has established boundaries and become good friends with Lucas.
Speaker 3: She is also Peyton's number one fan like that's my
Speaker 3: ride or die. I would never Brooke would never be like,
Speaker 3: I know you're in love with this man who's about
Speaker 3: to marry someone else, but I'm just gonna ask him
Speaker 3: for a quick organic material donation so I can make.
Speaker 4: A dirty with him.
Speaker 3: No, nobody's doing that.
Speaker 4: I can't say the word.
Speaker 3: I can't be like, you know, sperm down or gross.
Speaker 4: Like organic, don't you guys? It's so out of character.
Speaker 2: Are we making T shirts that say like Scott's organic material, like.
Speaker 4: Scott autobody I die?
Speaker 1: Honestly, we can make that T shirt for Dad's organic
Speaker 1: material donor.
Speaker 2: Yes, super down gross Truly?
Speaker 3: When I tell you I was in fear then, I'm
Speaker 3: infuriated now. It was not based in reality. I hated
Speaker 3: every minute of it. I'm like, this just doesn't track.
Speaker 3: It's so off the charts, insane. And Brooke owns a
Speaker 3: multimillion dollar company. You think she can't go to like
Speaker 3: whatever the version of North Carolina Cryobank is and pay
Speaker 3: twelve hundred dollars for a semen sample.
Speaker 4: Y'all. There were databases.
Speaker 2: There were databases where you could just get like anonymous
Speaker 2: hazel eyes six feet tall do you think she's.
Speaker 1: Not going to Uncle Cooper first, Hello Cooper, she would
Speaker 1: for sure be the daddy like we're not.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't. This whole storyline is so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But also, why was she in a wedding dress? Why
Speaker 1: is she fantasizing about a wedding dress?
Speaker 4: Like enough, well, guys, cause she's twenty two years old.
Speaker 3: Oh, because she just needs this man's.
Speaker 4: Her best friend is in love with this man.
Speaker 1: She would never I would rather see a fantasy about
Speaker 1: her mom, like actually dealing with you know, Victoria coming
Speaker 1: in and saying, honey, I'm you know what, I just
Speaker 1: had therapy whatever, I don't know, I'm sorry. I love
Speaker 1: you many way.
Speaker 4: Even if Brooks to your point, I love that idea.
Speaker 3: Joy If brooks fantasy was she's standing there in her
Speaker 3: wedding dress and her mom comes in and says, I'm
Speaker 3: so proud of you, and then it turns out it's
Speaker 3: yesn't like Victoria and Millie both have dark hair. You
Speaker 3: could do a really cool reveal cut something that's about
Speaker 3: like her as a woman and as a daughter.
Speaker 4: But I just was like, are we really doing this? Well?
Speaker 2: Honestly, when Karen came in with her longer dark hair.
Speaker 2: I've never seen her like this. I have a glare
Speaker 2: on my screen. I thought it was Victoria because turns
Speaker 2: around and.
Speaker 4: Is like, oh my god, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, what is Victoria showing up to
Speaker 2: be like helpful or something? And that would have been
Speaker 2: like the fantasy to see Brooke have like a sweet
Speaker 2: but kind of awkward conversation with Karen like a man.
Speaker 4: Definitely wrote the scene where it was like, how do
Speaker 4: you say say staysto strong? I cannot say it, It won't
Speaker 4: come out of my mouth. Guys, in your life, have
Speaker 4: you ever sat down and been like, I need to
Speaker 4: ask you a question? How how could I have so
Speaker 4: much dignity and grace? It was so like fishing, but
Speaker 4: I love the Brooke was.
Speaker 2: Clearly being like I need a maternal validation right now,
Speaker 2: and Karen gives it.
Speaker 3: And what I loved about it like I have such
Speaker 3: I have that visceral sense memory we get from shooting
Speaker 3: that scene with Moira and then with you coming in,
Speaker 3: because to see Moira, I was so excited and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that. My reaction Brookes seeing Karen is how
Speaker 3: I felt about seeing Moira and.
Speaker 4: Then you walk in and you did the same thing,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god. I loved her.
Speaker 4: We just loved her.
Speaker 3: So much and having her back was so special. And
Speaker 3: even though the dialogue in the scene was so clunky,
Speaker 3: I loved how authentic our relationships as the three women
Speaker 3: in the store, in the Karens that.
Speaker 4: Turned into the close over rose like, I loved it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know why you weren't their joy, but
Speaker 3: like it was so I'm like, God, Haley should have
Speaker 3: also been there, Like we should have had this like
Speaker 3: girls moment all of us Karen because she was like
Speaker 3: our human.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was the mom to all of us. Really,
Speaker 4: didn't Haley and Karen have a moment?
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was strange, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: There were all these weird There were all those things
Speaker 1: that were missing, follow through all the things that were missing,
Speaker 1: a lot of things that were choppy, kind of jumping around.
Speaker 1: I appreciated that they wanted to do some bonding with them,
Speaker 1: and I liked the you know that we drove out
Speaker 1: there on the dock and I have I have Chad
Speaker 1: in plaid, which I loved. I thought he looked so
Speaker 1: great in that plaid shirt on the dock. He was fine.
Speaker 4: Little Keith, he was.
Speaker 1: It was like a whole little That's what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Karen Keith and the whole thing. But I
Speaker 1: did love And I also wrote in my notes that
Speaker 1: the Brook and Peyton in this whole episode, the arc
Speaker 1: of how you guys were together was really fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've everybody's been dealing with their own
Speaker 1: stuff the last few episodes, so it was good to
Speaker 1: see you guys back together and reminding everybody of why
Speaker 1: that friendship is so fun and meaningful.
Speaker 2: I loved that we looked naked in that church. We're
Speaker 2: both strapless.
Speaker 4: Dresses shressless, joy just are like tits up. I didn't
Speaker 4: clock it. I didn't clock it. Oh no, I gotta
Speaker 4: go watch we look nude.
Speaker 2: I know it's totally like, not intentional, because wardrobe wasn't
Speaker 2: thinking like that and the camera was thinking like that.
Speaker 2: But there's this metaphor of Brook and Peyton laying themselvesselves
Speaker 2: bear in the church, just like totally naked in their
Speaker 2: discomfort and just like all right, we're gonna sit here
Speaker 2: and here we go.
Speaker 4: And you know who else?
Speaker 3: I thought was such a standout for what was added
Speaker 3: to that dynamic.
Speaker 4: Like, look when when one of.
Speaker 3: Your girlfriends is going through some and you show up
Speaker 3: and you're like, we're a team.
Speaker 4: We don't have dates.
Speaker 3: We're here together because Hailey's dealing with her whole family,
Speaker 3: like are we aren't we? So it's the two of
Speaker 3: us like tweeled and tweeled dumb and the pews right.
Speaker 7: And Skills Anton being like like the little kick stand
Speaker 7: to our bike, just propping up all the drama the
Speaker 7: whole time was great.
Speaker 1: Funny, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: He was great, him being like, well, kidnapper, we'll put
Speaker 3: you in the dress. You're gonna stand up when they say,
Speaker 3: like all the ideas.
Speaker 4: It was just so.
Speaker 2: Funny, y'all. I love gallows humor. Gallow's humor at a
Speaker 2: wedding or a funeral is so appreciated because someone's got
Speaker 2: to fall on the sword and be the spicy one, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't anticipate that it would be Skills,
Speaker 2: you know, because he's been so like, oh, Lundcy's great
Speaker 2: and everything's awesome. I like what I noticed is that
Speaker 2: no one is telling Lucas like, oh buddy, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be awesome and we're here for you forever. Literally
Speaker 2: everyone says to him. They're like, hey, man, you're a
Speaker 2: good guy.
Speaker 8: For you Yeah, well Hailey is Hailey is.
Speaker 4: Telling him, Oh, but that's it. She's not saying it's
Speaker 4: gonna be great. No, she tells him the truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do she does. But also, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: think she. I was watched I was thinking about that.
Speaker 1: I was like, why isn't she telling him to go
Speaker 1: be with Peyton?
Speaker 3: But don't you feel like she does when she talks
Speaker 3: about the book and she's like, hello, I know what
Speaker 3: your book is about, and he's like, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she does it in her own way, I guess,
Speaker 1: rather than just be. But that's what's weird is their
Speaker 1: relationship has always been She's always been very like just
Speaker 1: giving it to him straight. So it's strange now that
Speaker 1: at this point she's just kind of all right, I'll
Speaker 1: let you do your own thing. But maybe that's part
Speaker 1: of becoming a mother too, and like learning how to
Speaker 1: step back and let people learn their own thing. I
Speaker 1: wanted her to stick up a little bit more for Peyton.
Speaker 2: Is Nathan still sleeping on the couch at Lucas and
Speaker 2: Lindsay's house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where does he live now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not home, so I guess he's at Lucas
Speaker 1: unless he's at Skills house. Wait where was that.
Speaker 4: Scene at Lucas and Lindsay's house. We're oh the creepy showers?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what was that where he comes out of
Speaker 2: the fantasy and is like all bent over in the
Speaker 2: swer he was in the locker room at.
Speaker 4: The high school. You guys, that was uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: We both were like, why is he bet like that?
Speaker 2: And like is it a It looked like cold showery,
Speaker 2: like weird.
Speaker 4: It was suggestive for him. Man, he just wants his
Speaker 4: wife back so bad.
Speaker 2: How old comfortable to have to walk down the aisle
Speaker 2: and like see your spouse who you're in a fight with.
Speaker 2: And by the way, your hair is so good in
Speaker 2: this episode in the dress with the lace over the Oh,
Speaker 2: the whole thing was like an eleven and it just
Speaker 2: killing him, killing him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you did that thing or like you walked
Speaker 3: up the aisle looking like a little snack and then
Speaker 3: you like looked at him and wouldn't hold his eyes
Speaker 3: and you get to the ground.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, it's Dorger, it's dog.
Speaker 1: Gotta find your moments. You gotta find your moments, especially
Speaker 1: when you've been married a while. You gotta, you know,
Speaker 1: get a milk it a little bit.
Speaker 4: Through the paces.
Speaker 1: But then, okay, I mean, how about the fact that
Speaker 1: Lindsay saw the car was a comment but didn't put
Speaker 1: it together until she was standing at the altar. Hello,
Speaker 1: I mean good for good for Mikayla from pulling that off.
Speaker 1: She did such a beautiful job, she really really did.
Speaker 2: I like the idea that she's like I was in
Speaker 2: New York, I don't know cars, Like she's clearly seen
Speaker 2: Peyton's car before she saw it outside a trick with
Speaker 2: Lucas's car park right next door.
Speaker 3: Hello, But what bride in her dress is gonna go
Speaker 3: walking through the gardens of a church to get her
Speaker 3: soon to be husband's ex girlfriend sweater off the roof
Speaker 3: of her car. I was like, we couldn't have done
Speaker 3: this better. Why is she outside the church where everybody
Speaker 3: can see her? Anyway?
Speaker 2: She should have been doing her like bridesmaid photos, you know,
Speaker 2: she should have been doing.
Speaker 3: Portraits or something where you're like, oh, well, there's a
Speaker 3: reason for her to be out here. She's not just
Speaker 3: standing out here after twirling around for two little kids
Speaker 3: who aren't there anymore.
Speaker 4: She should have been smoking.
Speaker 1: I don't even think she needed to see the car.
Speaker 1: She's seen it before. She knows it's famous. Peyton's car
Speaker 1: is kind of famously a comet. It's something that's she
Speaker 1: has to have seen that before. And wasn't it in
Speaker 1: the original book, in the Raven's book that she edited.
Speaker 1: Oh I just feel it. Yeah, I just feel like
Speaker 1: she would know that. So why do we at this
Speaker 1: whole point of for seeing it?
Speaker 4: Why is Peyton there?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Like I get like, oh, we're all grown ups, we'll
Speaker 2: all be friends. But you know, she could have stayed
Speaker 2: at home and crafted and just made it easier on everybody, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we already had the whole basketball thing where she was like,
Speaker 2: you guys are dumping me. We've moved past that. She
Speaker 2: is a lovely Saturday. She could have found something to do.
Speaker 2: She did not need to be there for him or Lindsay.
Speaker 2: She's not on either side.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's not like Lucas was begging, like you
Speaker 1: it would really mean a lot to me if you
Speaker 1: were here.
Speaker 4: No, no, no one says that to her. Is she
Speaker 4: just Brooks plus one? Is this just like she's not
Speaker 4: even invited.
Speaker 2: I went to one of my best friend's weddings and
Speaker 2: like there had been this question of like, oh, we
Speaker 2: gonna invite this one specific pert I shouldn't even say
Speaker 2: got hope they're not listening anyway, Well your whole face
Speaker 2: just turned red.
Speaker 4: Just someone you know, listen.
Speaker 2: I went to a wedding of someone that I know,
Speaker 2: and beforehand they were like, oh, we've got this one friend.
Speaker 4: I don't know whether to invite them.
Speaker 2: And this friend showed up as a plus one, like
Speaker 2: they hadn't invited them, but showed about.
Speaker 4: A plus as a plus one.
Speaker 1: Ballsy.
Speaker 2: It was like just sweaty, just like and everything ended
Speaker 2: up being fine, but I just remember it was stressful.
Speaker 4: It was just stressful. So like, why is Peyton there?
Speaker 7: Come on?
Speaker 2: If you ever on the fence of like should I
Speaker 2: go to this person's wedding, don't don't like unless they
Speaker 2: say to you, baby, I want you here, don't do that.
Speaker 4: That'll be weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you're invited. If you're not invited and somebody
Speaker 1: raised you as a plus one, and it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's my ex boyfriend or it's my ex girlfriend or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it'll be fine. Even though I wasn't invited. You
Speaker 1: probably weren't invited on purpose. Stay home.
Speaker 4: And they've only been engaged to weeks? How did they
Speaker 4: pull this off? Oh my god, that's right, cause Nathan's like,
Speaker 4: I haven't seen you in a week, Jamie. Why did
Speaker 4: they have such a short engagement? Like it's really weird?
Speaker 1: And in tree Hill? And where's her family? We don't
Speaker 1: know anything, man.
Speaker 2: All of these problems would have been solved if they
Speaker 2: just went back to that pond where Lindsay used to
Speaker 2: hang out with her dad, And didn't she tell a
Speaker 2: story about a pondo?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Walden Pond, Walden Ny could have gone and gotten
Speaker 3: married at Walden Pond.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: Lucas made this happen. He knew what would happen.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know why they didn't, couldn't draw
Speaker 1: it all out longer? I think it would have been
Speaker 1: more fun drama, like involve Lindsay's family, have them come
Speaker 1: to tree Hill. Who are her parents? What do they
Speaker 1: think of? Because how's he going to spend all this
Speaker 1: time like trying to impress them? And then what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen when she realizes maybe her dad finds out that
Speaker 1: Peyton's car is the comment or her mom, and then
Speaker 1: we have it just could have gone on for so long.
Speaker 1: It would have been fun.
Speaker 4: Well, her dad's dead. We already made that mistake.
Speaker 2: Oh right, sorry, sorry, Like why are we speeding through this?
Speaker 2: It could have been so juicy and like drawn out.
Speaker 2: I remember, I have a physical memory of having to
Speaker 2: stand up and do that whole little bit about when you.
Speaker 4: Fixed my car, you fixed my heart.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I literally the fact that you were
Speaker 3: able to do that with a straight, flicking face.
Speaker 2: We all sat around because we were all seated together,
Speaker 2: and we're all talking about it, Like I remember us
Speaker 2: holding the sides.
Speaker 4: In our hand being like, am I gonna do this?
Speaker 4: This is awful, this is terrible.
Speaker 1: Rit You pulled it off, and the fans love it,
Speaker 1: like that line gets quoted back to you all the.
Speaker 2: Time all the time, And I do happen to love
Speaker 2: when you fixed my car, you fixed my heart. Now
Speaker 2: it's the it's the don't leave me again, Lucas. People
Speaker 2: always leave that really just like.
Speaker 4: Got stuck in my crawl.
Speaker 1: That was the nail.
Speaker 2: But I remember Moira being like, just say this fast
Speaker 2: as you can, and I was like, yeah, okay, that's
Speaker 2: what we're going to do.
Speaker 1: And so it was like.
Speaker 4: And that was the right note. It was absolutely the
Speaker 4: right note.
Speaker 1: It was because it was it was a dream sequence anyway,
Speaker 1: so it didn't actually have to be really believable because
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, what, why is Peyton doing this?
Speaker 4: This is so what?
Speaker 1: So then it worked, Yeah, it was a dream sequence.
Speaker 1: And then Jamie goes missing.
Speaker 4: Well. I love the build up to it because it's like.
Speaker 2: Anytime something traumatic happens and you've been kind of spicy
Speaker 2: with people around you and then you're kind of at
Speaker 2: their mercy, that's an uncomfortable place to be in. And
Speaker 2: Haley's so great in this episode because she is like
Speaker 2: not pulling any punches. She's telling her best friend like
Speaker 2: you're marrying the wrong girl.
Speaker 4: She's telling her.
Speaker 2: Husband eh Ahatten and scram you know, like she's just
Speaker 2: being really yelling at Dan, Yeah, yelling at Dan. She's
Speaker 2: being assertive with everybody in a way that's great until
Speaker 2: now she's in the most vulnerable position she's ever been
Speaker 2: in with her child missing, and it's like, now I
Speaker 2: have to rely on the very people that I've just
Speaker 2: been really frank with, and it's like, I.
Speaker 1: Like that you're saying assertive. It's so positive. I just
Speaker 1: felt like she was so grouchy and really had a
Speaker 1: word but just disappeared out of my brain. I just
Speaker 1: felt like she was really grouchy with everybody.
Speaker 4: She had a reason too, though, I validate her grouch.
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 1: You're right. It is suddenly like, okay, now I have
Speaker 1: to Now I just need everybody's help, so please please
Speaker 1: just be there. I think it was maybe an insecurity.
Speaker 1: It felt like she was being really really uh like
Speaker 1: it was like a fear based grouch just always it's
Speaker 1: upset and scared about what the future is and there
Speaker 1: were so many things out of her control and unknown,
Speaker 1: and then the anxiety got turned up to eleven when
Speaker 1: Jamie disappeared, which, by the way, I loved that moment
Speaker 1: of Jamie in the hallway when Carrie comes and he's
Speaker 1: walking to the bathroom and he turns around like a
Speaker 1: little like a little man.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, man, Harry.
Speaker 1: What are you doing here?
Speaker 4: The way is it?
Speaker 1: Like so sway, that's really funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was so believable in that moment.
Speaker 2: And my I loved, loved, loved Nanny Carey and Jamie
Speaker 2: in the hotel room where we start to see her
Speaker 2: fall apart and the cracks and he's just playing it
Speaker 2: like huh, grown ups are weird, you know, like as
Speaker 2: the audience were. But she's spirally, this could get dangerous.
Speaker 2: And the kid has the candy wrappers on the bed
Speaker 2: next to him. It's so shirt out of his brain cartoons.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so scary though. That's just such a creepy terror,
Speaker 1: such a creepy thing to see. But it made me
Speaker 1: happy to see Dan show up.
Speaker 4: Yes, let's talk about that. It's so conflicting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 2: Like the brutality to women in the episode, like him
Speaker 2: strangling Carrie is something that I feel like our show
Speaker 2: wanted the audience to root for, and we probably did
Speaker 2: when this aired, right.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, get her down.
Speaker 2: And in this moment where it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this guy who just got out of prison has a
Speaker 2: woman by her throat and is telling her I'm going
Speaker 2: to kill you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but she's a kidnapper. Absolutely, you would expect
Speaker 1: him to do that with a man.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was like a heightened physicality that makes me
Speaker 2: feel very like, oh, she's the bad guy.
Speaker 4: He's also a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Everything's bad here, and maybe like call the cops, maybe
Speaker 2: make a phone call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it feels like.
Speaker 1: He could just go in, grab Jamie and leave, and
Speaker 1: there's other ways to threaten someone.
Speaker 3: Also, he could call the cops and say, I watched
Speaker 3: this woman kidnap my grandson. I'm at this location, she's
Speaker 3: in this really, I followed them from the church. Everybody
Speaker 3: thinks it's me, but it's her. Absolutely, I'm sitting here
Speaker 3: to stay on the phone with me.
Speaker 1: But he had to be the vigilante and go in
Speaker 1: and deal with it and be violent and do what
Speaker 1: he does.
Speaker 4: And get the credit and whatever walk into the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. He could have. He could have
Speaker 1: done that. And even if it I guess maybe it's
Speaker 1: just because the sensitivity level too, is like if it
Speaker 1: had been a man and he needed to go in
Speaker 1: and get the get the kid out as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me, and I guess we're sort
Speaker 1: of sort of conditioned to watch like we've been watching
Speaker 1: action movies for years where men are fighting each other
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like a whatever, But the putting
Speaker 1: it visually, putting it on camera, a man, especially his size,
Speaker 1: choking a woman regardless of the circumstance. I just don't
Speaker 1: know that we need to see that, Like, could we
Speaker 1: just have had him go in and take Jamie.
Speaker 2: Well, remember when we had all the psychoederic stuff. We
Speaker 2: were told over and over again how our ratings went
Speaker 2: up when the girls got beat up, right, and so
Speaker 2: it feels like, hey, you know what'll work.
Speaker 4: We've done it before.
Speaker 2: Now we'll just get this super hot chick and strangle her.
Speaker 2: Although she plays a dastardly villain like her turns in
Speaker 2: the episode were so juicy and fun to watch.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and what's coming is so good? All this,
Speaker 1: like the misery stuff that's coming up soon.
Speaker 2: It's going to be Yes, I'm your mommy now.
Speaker 1: But I remember that day when we were shooting, because
Speaker 1: there were a lot of days in this episode when
Speaker 1: everyone was there and we were all just killing time.
Speaker 1: Those were the Those are the days when everybody comes
Speaker 1: in to work with whatever their little side projects are.
Speaker 1: If you're writing something or reading something or knitting something
Speaker 1: or whatever, and we're all just there hanging out, our
Speaker 1: making our time useful until it's our time to be
Speaker 1: on the screen. And I remember that being a fun day.
Speaker 1: Everybody was there in Nathan and Haley's house. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a little stressful. I also remember, Oh that's funny.
Speaker 1: This just hit me. I remember, uh, because there were
Speaker 1: so many people there and the crew was always busy
Speaker 1: and stuff, that it was the one day I had
Speaker 1: to be really really emotional and I was the only
Speaker 1: one that had to be really really emotional so loud
Speaker 1: on set because everybody was talking and everybody it's just
Speaker 1: hard to contain that many people. It wasn't necessarily a
Speaker 1: lack of sensitivity, but it just was. It's just hard
Speaker 1: to contain that many people. But I do, I remember that.
Speaker 1: But I got there and and yeah, it was great
Speaker 1: to be able to see just everybody's faces. And bizarrely,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about how we attached to our
Speaker 1: characters and you you'll, you know, you'll feel jealous even
Speaker 1: though it's not real life or whatever. I remember looking
Speaker 1: around that room and feeling really comforted by all of
Speaker 1: all of the faces, and it really helped.
Speaker 2: I remember that day really well too, because it was
Speaker 2: the first time everyone was there, and so they made
Speaker 2: us take all those group photos. Remember they were like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it was like press there because it was
Speaker 2: our one hundredth episode, and it was just like, okay,
Speaker 2: well Joy has to cry, but if everyone else can
Speaker 2: get to gather, I take this big friend. We're all
Speaker 2: kind of like, guys, she's got to do some Like
Speaker 2: Harry looked in her.
Speaker 4: So it's so awkward they take for granted.
Speaker 1: They think like, oh, you can just turn it on
Speaker 1: and off like a faucet, like you don't need to
Speaker 1: emote entertainment.
Speaker 4: Weekly's here.
Speaker 1: Yeh you can cry right, go cry?
Speaker 4: Okay dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun though. It was fun. It was
Speaker 1: fun Jackson run in that room well yeah.
Speaker 4: And also the Lily dynamic.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, when Lily says to Nathan, can I play
Speaker 3: with this? And you just see it suck the life
Speaker 3: out of him. But she's a little kid, you know.
Speaker 3: That was I thought, really.
Speaker 4: Really well done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 4: I like that she's Lucas's cousin's sister, Like that's the
Speaker 4: most treatal shit ever. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I guess same thing for Nathan. She's
Speaker 2: Nathan's cousin sister too or no, just cousin.
Speaker 4: Little sis cause it's so confusing.
Speaker 2: I loved our hundredth episode party because they threw this
Speaker 2: huge party with like a red carpet, and every executive
Speaker 2: from Warner Brothers came into town.
Speaker 4: Where did we do that? Was that like in anfall
Speaker 4: or something? Yeah, I would think it was.
Speaker 1: It was on the water right like blue It was
Speaker 1: jumping room.
Speaker 3: I remember there was like a big tent where we
Speaker 3: all cut the cake.
Speaker 4: I have that picture hanging on my wall. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost didn't make that photo. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: There was a game room and like a photo booth
Speaker 1: member they had all those like I mean, they really
Speaker 1: decked it out whatever that place was. I feel like
Speaker 1: there was a lot of different rooms and areas, and
Speaker 1: that's why I didn't almost didn't make the photo because
Speaker 1: I was I was in a different room and I
Speaker 1: just didn't hear For whatever reason, I didn't hear everybody
Speaker 1: saying like, let's get together and cut the cake. And
Speaker 1: I remember sneaking in at the last second.
Speaker 4: Did you miss all the speeches I missed?
Speaker 1: I think I missed a lot of speeches. I had
Speaker 1: no idea.
Speaker 2: I mean we were just being a pole standing all
Speaker 2: the side finlay.
Speaker 4: We were just talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like so I'm sorry I missed that.
Speaker 2: That was also like, you know, Kate Vogel was there
Speaker 2: and that poor creature was in the crosshairs with our
Speaker 2: boss at the time, and we were just like surrounding
Speaker 2: her like body men.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember feeling really like Caddy that night, just like
Speaker 2: there are so many girls in this.
Speaker 4: Room right now and we're all on the same It
Speaker 4: sound good to all be in the same room, you
Speaker 4: know what. It makes me think of like the visual.
Speaker 3: I feel like we made a hornet's nest that night.
Speaker 2: We were like we dare you to come in here, ma'am,
Speaker 2: And everybody like looked good that night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: We remember Jojo and Tim helped us all get ready.
Speaker 3: It was like we were done up.
Speaker 4: It was fun. Yeah, that was a great party. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wore my junior year prom dress. Yeah you did
Speaker 4: that brown one. I love that like a bleated dress.
Speaker 4: I uh, I was really mad.
Speaker 2: I only ever wore it once and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't want to wear this thing.
Speaker 4: I still have that dress. I'm gonna find another thing
Speaker 4: to wear it too.
Speaker 3: I don't think I have the dress to that party,
Speaker 3: but I remember.
Speaker 4: That it was the best neckline.
Speaker 3: Oh, it had that cool like metal thing, and then
Speaker 3: the chain stress.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I loved that dress. And there had been something we'd
Speaker 3: had to do. I don't know, like a press event
Speaker 3: or something, you know when every once in a while
Speaker 3: they'd throw us on a last minute flight to New York,
Speaker 3: be like, you're leaving at six am tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like landed in.
Speaker 3: New York and bought a dress because I hadn't had
Speaker 3: time to get.
Speaker 4: Something, and same thing. I was like, I don't just
Speaker 4: want to wear this once.
Speaker 3: So then I wore it to our one hundredth episode
Speaker 3: party and I was so excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty.
Speaker 4: We didn't have a lot of opportunities to dress up.
Speaker 1: And I know I saw the belt from that dress,
Speaker 1: but I think I don't think I have the dress anymore,
Speaker 1: but I keep the belt, keep thinking that I'm going
Speaker 1: to use it, and then I never have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's also sentimental. Now that you've mentioned it,
Speaker 4: you'll use it like next week. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It's gold brocade. It's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to and it's like a thick so it doesn't really
Speaker 1: fit in jeans. I don't know. I'll let you know.
Speaker 1: I'll snap. You'll find stuff. I find the right thing.
Speaker 3: You'll find some perfect little dress to put it over
Speaker 3: and be.
Speaker 4: Like there it is. Yeah, bang, I did love.
Speaker 3: For as ridiculous as it was, it was really special
Speaker 3: to have that night with all of us, to be
Speaker 3: able to celebrate what we did, because.
Speaker 4: You know, we all had that.
Speaker 3: It's not like Stockholm syndrome, but whatever, the version of
Speaker 3: it is where you know you're essentially your parents tell
Speaker 3: you you're terrible. Like it was like our bosses did that
Speaker 3: to us for so long. You're on the bubble, you
Speaker 3: might not get picked up, You're nobody watches your show,
Speaker 3: and here it is like one of the most successful
Speaker 3: coming of age TV shows of all time. And we
Speaker 3: were so used to being told we weren't doing things
Speaker 3: right that to how a party that we all got
Speaker 3: to be at, not like three people got sent to
Speaker 3: Raleigh and two people got sent to dies and two
Speaker 3: people got sent to New York, Like we all got
Speaker 3: to be together, and I just I remember looking around
Speaker 3: when we were doing that cake cutting, and I remember
Speaker 3: looking at each of you and just being like, whoa,
Speaker 3: we did this, Like we're really doing this and it
Speaker 3: felt special.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. I agree.
Speaker 2: I love that it had been our reality up until
Speaker 2: that point, that like we weren't as good as the
Speaker 2: other shows, and then you hit that milestone where you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: what if we are? And everything I'm seeing tonight says
Speaker 2: that we are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're pretty great.
Speaker 2: Actually, it's not like our show's over at one hundred.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go on for like how man episodes?
Speaker 4: Did it end up being entirely one hundred and eighty seven?
Speaker 1: That's ban Us unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just living on the bottle man, Do we have
Speaker 2: a honorable mention this episode before we get to our
Speaker 2: fan questions?
Speaker 4: Skills is so great? He just he came in.
Speaker 1: He sort of saved the episode for me, Like all
Speaker 1: the all the pieces that I was like gaps and
Speaker 1: you weren't really sure, he commented, He just jumped in.
Speaker 1: It was great. I loved it.
Speaker 2: His line, baby girl, you are so far from okay,
Speaker 2: You're not even in the same zip code.
Speaker 3: That was good, great, and then to pick it up
Speaker 3: with the Ross and Rachel joke, like, because he really
Speaker 3: deflated you and then he brought the humor back.
Speaker 4: It was so well done.
Speaker 2: I just like that skills watch his friends. We learned
Speaker 2: a lot about him in this episode.
Speaker 4: He really really did you guys.
Speaker 3: My honorable mention, hands down, was the sync to Grace
Speaker 3: Potter having that whole end sequence be happening over apologies.
Speaker 3: I had goosebumps the whole time. I was like, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm finally into the episode. This has been ridiculous, but
Speaker 3: this is really good, awesome.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 3: I just think like her music elevates any performance I've
Speaker 3: ever seen it play under underneath.
Speaker 1: She's so good.
Speaker 2: My honor mention goes to all of the secret booze
Speaker 2: in this episode, because between between learning that you and
Speaker 2: Nathan were drinking moonshine and knowing that we had water
Speaker 2: bottles in the church pews during those long wedding hours.
Speaker 2: I love that we treated this like a real wedding
Speaker 2: and just came prepared.
Speaker 4: Everybody sneak it in. It was one hundredth episode.
Speaker 1: Man, we were like, let's party, let's just just party.
Speaker 4: What are they going to do? Fire us? Here we go.
Speaker 3: We've got a question from Jessica. She says, who's wedding
Speaker 3: on the show. If it happened in real life, do
Speaker 3: you think would have been the most fun? We're entertaining
Speaker 3: to a tent.
Speaker 1: I mean Brooks right, like Brooke would have had. How
Speaker 1: has that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened at your wedding?
Speaker 2: I caught I caught so much at Peyton.
Speaker 4: Wasn't at Brooks wedding, So what did I miss?
Speaker 3: It was a pretty good time also, I mean talk
Speaker 3: about everybody drinking in the pews. By the end of
Speaker 3: that week, people, everybody was just so tired of being extras.
Speaker 3: We were running against the clock, and Lisa Goldstein got the.
Speaker 4: Church giggles and then we all got it, and then.
Speaker 3: It spread and we were trying to get through a thing,
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, I don't know, I had like
Speaker 3: made eye contact with her or something, and somebody from
Speaker 3: behind video village basically acted like I did it to
Speaker 3: you guys, And I finally looked.
Speaker 4: Over and was like, you guys help me here. Everyone
Speaker 4: was sorry, sorry, like we just couldn't we could not
Speaker 4: get our together. It was it was very funny.
Speaker 1: No, we've never had I've never seen a producer come into.
Speaker 4: What even finished this? Who wasn't, who wasn't. We'll beep it,
Speaker 4: We'll beep it. No, it was never talking in angry.
Speaker 1: Hillary was so mad. It was just the whole lot
Speaker 1: of us in this one section, in these two pews.
Speaker 4: And yeah, he was at the extra too. Oh, in
Speaker 4: front of everybody.
Speaker 1: Everyone. We we got dreamed, but we were so we
Speaker 1: were cracking up. We were trying so hard. We really were.
Speaker 4: Trying to contain it well.
Speaker 3: And it was in that church with those high ceilings,
Speaker 3: so the noise that echoed, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And I was just like melting up there.
Speaker 3: And I think he'd gotten really mad because our boss
Speaker 3: had literally written the most embarrassing wedding vows for Brooke
Speaker 3: Davis that you've ever heard in your life. So I
Speaker 3: rewrote them and I literally was like, no, I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: I wrote them, I'm saying this, and they were like,
Speaker 3: you can't do that, and I was like, I dare
Speaker 3: you watch me? Call him, call La, call the writer's
Speaker 3: I've put my blood, sweat and tears into this woman
Speaker 3: and I am not letting her say this bullshit like
Speaker 3: I just had had it.
Speaker 4: We were eight years in. I didn't care anymore.
Speaker 3: So I think I think our bosses who were there
Speaker 3: were a little like whool because they'd lost a battle
Speaker 3: with me, so they han, yeah, oh, they came in
Speaker 3: so hot and they yelled at all of us so bad.
Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy like that they were still treating us
Speaker 2: like little kids, like.
Speaker 4: I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, we were, we were acting
Speaker 1: like we were being had day.
Speaker 4: It was a mess. I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd really run out. I'm gonna need Brook Davis
Speaker 2: to get married again, so I couldn't come because I
Speaker 2: feel like it's like the live band at Brook's wedding
Speaker 2: is probably really tight.
Speaker 3: Brook Davis goes how to throw a party, we have
Speaker 3: that in common. To clarify this, since you were talking
Speaker 3: about how much you got, I feel like this is
Speaker 3: a really important moment to tell our fans that we
Speaker 3: were told Joy and I that you had been invited
Speaker 3: back for the episode and said no, no, And then
Speaker 3: obviously when we talked you were like, no, they never
Speaker 3: asked me to come, but they had essentially asked us
Speaker 3: in the press to be like oh, well, you know,
Speaker 3: she was invited to come, but was doing White Callar
Speaker 3: or whatever you were working on at the time. I
Speaker 3: think it was that same year. And then when I
Speaker 3: talked to you and found out that was a lie,
Speaker 3: I went ballistic.
Speaker 4: I was so mad. Oh I was mad.
Speaker 1: So to be clearer, Peyton should have been at Peyton should.
Speaker 3: Have been there, and it wasn't up to any of us.
Speaker 2: No. The only time I ever got a phone call
Speaker 2: was I was pregnant with Gus. It was in October
Speaker 2: of I Guess season seven, and my manager got a
Speaker 2: call that was like, Hillary's on the board for this episode,
Speaker 2: so we're trying to schedule her travel. And we had
Speaker 2: had an epic fallout as I left the show, and
Speaker 2: my manager had been told all these things by our
Speaker 2: bosses that were just like horrific about me and that
Speaker 2: I'd never work again and all this stuff, and so
Speaker 2: it's just this really pleasant call from like a secretary,
Speaker 2: like we're trying to book her, and I was like
Speaker 2: super pregnant, and I was like, uh, I'm unavailable.
Speaker 4: You're like I'm not getting on a plane right now,
Speaker 4: thank you much.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that was the only that was the only
Speaker 2: call that I can remember getting certainly no like Brook's
Speaker 2: wedding situation.
Speaker 4: Wow, we'll just have to do it again.
Speaker 3: They just weren't They weren't prepared for the three of
Speaker 3: us to be back in the room together again.
Speaker 4: That's all we need.
Speaker 1: We need somebody to cut somebody who's a fan, who
Speaker 1: has all these clips to cut together. Yeah, at Brook's wedding.
Speaker 3: Put Peyton in the wedding so that we're all there together.
Speaker 2: There's enough footage of when I was on white collar,
Speaker 2: like constantly dressed up for because my character was always
Speaker 2: dressed up, that they can cut that in with Brooke
Speaker 2: Davis's wedding.
Speaker 4: I'm like, someone can do that. I'm into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kiah, seriously, though, you should when this is over,
Speaker 1: set up your phone and take you look like you're
Speaker 1: in a Hitchcock movie right now. You need to take
Speaker 1: some photos in this light.
Speaker 2: Eve all all right, I'll just sit here and be
Speaker 2: dark and stormy while we spin a wheel rear window.
Speaker 4: I love that I just showed Gus all those movies.
Speaker 1: He dug it so good on theme.
Speaker 4: Wait, did you guys do this on purpose? Did our
Speaker 4: producers manipulate this? Tell us?
Speaker 1: Yes, or no, this is incredible, this is so good.
Speaker 2: They swear they didn't manipulate this all right, Which one
Speaker 2: of us is most likely to be late to their
Speaker 2: own wedding?
Speaker 4: Well, like all of us have been married a couple times, like.
Speaker 2: You know what, I was engaged for like ten years,
Speaker 2: So I would say that was pretty.
Speaker 4: Late to my own wedding. I've pushed that so far.
Speaker 4: I was like, why don't we just have a couple
Speaker 4: of kids first?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is that's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like my ADHD would make me late because
Speaker 1: I would at the last second be like, oh I
Speaker 1: really need some floss and there's a drugstore across the street.
Speaker 1: Let me just run out real quick.
Speaker 4: I'll do it myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you would want to do something yourself exactly.
Speaker 8: But which character seems like a Nathan thing. Nathan's so
Speaker 8: afraid he's gonna get in trouble all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I just feel like happens to him.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I actually for sure feel like Dan Scott would have
Speaker 3: been laid to his wedding, but on purpose, as like
Speaker 3: a manipulative tactic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good call.
Speaker 4: Oh I showed up. Are you surprised? Congratulations?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 3: I weirdly don't feel like any of us. I don't
Speaker 3: feel like Brook, Payton or Haley would have been late.
Speaker 1: No, none of us. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: No. I can see something like happening to mouth.
Speaker 2: He's another one of those people that has like high
Speaker 2: jinks all the time. O.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rachel kidnapped me. I didn't mean to be late. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what happens in the fallout. I
Speaker 2: think I only remember storyline wise what happens up to now,
Speaker 2: to the wedding falling apart. Yeah, but I feel like
Speaker 2: Lucas is mad at Peyton somehow, and she didn't do it,
Speaker 2: She didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so annoyed if Lucas shows up at
Speaker 1: Peyton's door sad SACKI like, oo, come for me.
Speaker 4: Well, it's Peyton and brookstore, it's the both of us.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, we live together.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, if he starts sleeping on our couch,
Speaker 3: I will die laughing.
Speaker 4: I really don't remember what happens. I don't either. I
Speaker 4: can't wait to find out. All right you guys, well,
Speaker 4: all right, hang in there.
Speaker 3: We will see you next week for Season five, episode thirteen. Echoes, Silence, patience,
Speaker 3: and grace. Oh boy, here we go, Lions, Tigers and bears,
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