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Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday, Week seven edition and might

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Speaker 1: this be the week Buddha Baker returns. Welcome Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Gershman joins me. But it doesn't

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Speaker 1: miss a lot of games, but he has missed plenty

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Speaker 1: this season. He's certainly not going to miss a chance

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Speaker 1: to play against the Seahawks, his hometown team. Right. His return,

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Speaker 1: when it happens, will be a boost and not just

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Speaker 1: to the defense. Plus, we go into enemy territory and

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Speaker 1: visit with John Boyle, senior reporter for Seahawks dot Com.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode six eighty eight, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Budda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's in again

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Speaker 3: are Verry Magic?

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig griolud.

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Speaker 1: So. I haven't had a chance to speak to you,

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Speaker 1: Zach since Actually take that back when we left the

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Speaker 1: office Thursday late afternoon. I did see you all bit briefly,

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Speaker 1: though you quickly packed up your laptop and exited the

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Speaker 1: building after certain something happened downtown at Chasefield. What happened

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Speaker 1: to tell Marte walk off bottom of the ninth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a fish memory.

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Speaker 1: We got a series, now, Zach.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what you said to me. We got a

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Speaker 3: goldfish memory. I have said everybody in throughout the Arizona

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Speaker 3: media that's come to various different Cardinals press conferences, I

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Speaker 3: have said, and I wear my badge. I wear my

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia pride as like a badge of honor. Very few

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Speaker 3: were able to withstand you know what Philadelphia brings to

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Speaker 3: the table. I take that with the badge of honor obviously,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people have come up to me

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Speaker 3: saying get ready for this series. We spoke about it

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Speaker 3: last week when covered two and listen, I've said Game

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Speaker 3: three is gonna be the one that the Phillies lose,

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Speaker 3: but they're gonna win five. So you know what that means.

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Speaker 3: By this time next week, the Philadelphia Phillies are gonna

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Speaker 3: have a spot in the World Series. And like listen,

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Speaker 3: I will say this for everyone that's been giving the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Diamondbacks fans some slack for you know, the crowd

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Speaker 3: or whatever. Completely disagree. I thought they had an incredible

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Speaker 3: fan base out at Thursday's game. I'm excited for Friday's

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Speaker 3: game because I'll be there, so it'll be one more

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Speaker 3: Philly guy in the stands. But I thought that, Yes,

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia atmosphere, it says is Bank Park is one

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Speaker 3: of the best in MLB. Don't get me wrong. I

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Speaker 3: think anybody with the bias or without a bias would

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Speaker 3: agree with that. But I thought the Diamondbacks looked incredible

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Speaker 3: at Chase Field.

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Speaker 1: Forty seven thousand plus there on Thursday afternoon. Diamondbacks get

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Speaker 1: the win two to one. Series now reads two to

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Speaker 1: one in favor of the Phillies with Game four on Friday,

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Speaker 1: Game five on Saturday, and then I guess we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens after that.

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Speaker 3: We have to start turning cover two to like turn

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Speaker 3: two at this point or or second base, literally, if

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Speaker 3: we're gonna keep going with the twos, we gotta do

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Speaker 3: something on those lines. With the way we've been starting

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Speaker 3: these podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what happens one week from today when

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Speaker 1: we're going into the Baltimore Ravens game, and what happens

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Speaker 1: between the two of us.

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Speaker 3: One of us will be looking for World Series tickets,

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Speaker 3: the other one will be looking for flights to go

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Speaker 1: You're calling your shots. Oh yeah on a Friday, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Texas somehow, Someway. Well, that's true. The

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Speaker 1: winner is headed Texas, regardless of whether it's the Astros

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Speaker 1: or the Rangers. So you got that going forward?

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's turn our attention because we do talk

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Speaker 1: football here on Cardinals cover two percented by Hyundai, probably

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and the Cardinals for the

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Speaker 1: second straight week on the road, and for the second

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Speaker 1: play at the Seahawks on Sunday. One oh five is

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Speaker 1: the kickoff, eight thirty Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio network. Lumenfield is the place, and you talk

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Speaker 1: about great atmospheres. Now, Cardinals have had a great history

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Speaker 1: The good news for the Cardinals is we're talking about October.

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Speaker 1: Whether it should be decent, it's when you get to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when it starts getting yucky as it gets

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Speaker 1: later on we will head to the Pacific Northwest and

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Speaker 1: speak with John Boyle, senior reporter for Seahawks dot Com.

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Speaker 1: But you brought up Buddha Baker, and let's touch on

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Speaker 1: coach Jonathan Gannon recently addressed the media and mentioned the

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Speaker 1: As far as whether Budda Baker plays or not, he's

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Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Nikiralis called Buddha an eliminator, meaning he eliminates

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Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs, Kyler Murray is not going to be playing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cross dealing with an ankle injury. Are Let's stay

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Speaker 4: So maybe necessary, Walker won't necessarily have quite as much

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Speaker 4: production just because they might be spreading out, but they

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Speaker 4: like that do it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope this is not the week that Walker

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Speaker 1: gets going as we've seen in the past, because the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals seem to be the team that offenses get right against.

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Speaker 1: But this little nugget, though, William Piegler, Cardinals assistant defensive

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Speaker 1: line coach, coached Walker at Michigan State. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that means anything or a little tricks of

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Speaker 1: the trade or whatever, but I know those two at

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Speaker 1: least talking with coach Pigler, they have exchanged a couple

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Speaker 1: of text messages earlier in the week about yeah, get

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Speaker 1: right after this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think the Seahawks will. They'd love to

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Speaker 4: do it this week, but yeah, we'll see how it transpires.

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Speaker 4: But I know there, no matter who the opponent was,

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Speaker 4: I think this offense feels like it's got a few

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Speaker 4: little kinks to work out before it can get to

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Speaker 4: where it really wants to be.

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Speaker 1: The one thing, though coach Jonathan Gannon did mention to

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Speaker 1: the media here is the Seahawks don't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: The only team without a fumble, though two of the

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Speaker 1: three turnovers happened last week when Gino Smith was picked

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Speaker 1: off twice. Was that just more of a bad day?

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Speaker 1: And why so few giveaways?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to the first second part of the question,

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Speaker 4: why so few, I mean I think part of that

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Speaker 4: just speaks to the emphasis Pete Carroll puts on it here.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I know every team says they want

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Speaker 4: to turn the ball over, but Pete Carroll just hammers

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Speaker 4: that point home NonStop. I mean, the very first team

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Speaker 4: meeting of training camp, they're running backs, coach gets up

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Speaker 4: there and gives a big video presentation about ball security.

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Speaker 4: It's always been a huge deal for Pete Carrolls will

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Speaker 4: show stats on you know, if you win the turnover battle,

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Speaker 4: you win this percentage of games. And I mean it's

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Speaker 4: it's not a one year thing, it's his entire tenure

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Speaker 4: in Seattle. They've been It's basically like them and the

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Speaker 4: Patriots are way ahead of the league and turnover differential.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of it's the emphasis. I think Geo

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Speaker 4: Smith's just taken that to heart, and he's been really

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Speaker 4: good at it for the most part. You know, they

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Speaker 4: came into last week with one turnover, which is used

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. They did have the two interceptions. You know,

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Speaker 4: one was just I think Geo Smith tried to kind

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Speaker 4: of force one in and the cornerback made a good play.

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Speaker 4: The other one was some sort of confusion both players

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Speaker 4: have tried to take the blame themselves that there was

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Speaker 4: a route where DK Metcalf broke a route off. It

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Speaker 4: looked like Geo Smith was expecting him to break it

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Speaker 4: inside and he threw it to where DK wasn't and

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Speaker 4: the cornerback got the ball again. Both both guys are

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Speaker 4: saying it was their fault, so we may never know

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Speaker 4: who really screwed up there, but it was definitely just

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Speaker 4: a miscommunication more than bad you know, a bat thrower

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Speaker 4: or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: One thing the Cardinals do have going for them this

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Speaker 1: week is the expected at least, I'm expecting Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: to be back defensively, maybe help shore things up on

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Speaker 1: the back end. We'll get more of a read on

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Speaker 1: Baker's availability as weak progresses. But it's Seattle week, It's

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker's hometown team. I'm not expecting him to miss

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Speaker 1: this game. So how much do you think that tilts

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Speaker 1: things or what the Seahawks might do offensively?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I asked DK Metcalf about that on

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Speaker 4: Wednesday actually, and you know, he spoke very highly of

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Speaker 4: Buddha Baker. They're they're always going to be sort of

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Speaker 4: tied together because of that one famous playdown there. DK

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Speaker 4: tracked him down after that interception. But the Seahaks have

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Speaker 4: a tounter respect. They've seen plenty of Budda Baker over

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Speaker 4: the years, and they know, you know, what kind of

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Speaker 4: playmaker he is in all phases of the game that

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Speaker 4: he can, you know, be a run defender, he can blitz,

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Speaker 4: he can make plays downfield in the passing game. So

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Speaker 4: obviously he's he's a difference maker and I think you

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Speaker 4: know everyone's expecting if indeed he is back, it's going

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Speaker 4: to make that defense a lot better.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's switch it up a little bit, talk

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Speaker 1: about the Yawks defense and the Cardinals offense as we

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Speaker 1: speak with John Boyle, Senior reporter, Seahawks dot Com here

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Seahawks much improved run team from a

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Speaker 1: year ago. Cardinals have run the ball well even minus

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Speaker 1: James Connor. Is this where you believe maybe the game

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Speaker 1: is won or lost either way?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean, look at anything can happen, and you

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Speaker 4: can't just assume one thing is going to decide the game,

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Speaker 4: and then you know you overemphasize one thing and a

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Speaker 4: team v two another way, But yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 4: the obvious one is that run defensive Seahawks. Theyuring thirty

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Speaker 4: from the year in run defense last year, made a

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Speaker 4: big deal this offseason to getting better there. They completely

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Speaker 4: turned over their starting defensive line and they've gone from

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Speaker 4: you know, one of the worst run defensive last year

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Speaker 4: to one of the best this season. Really, nobody's you know,

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Speaker 4: I think Daniel Jones scrambled a little bit for some

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Speaker 4: yardage against the Giants, and otherwise nobody's really run on them.

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Speaker 4: Opponents are averaging three point two yards to carry lowess

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Speaker 4: mark in the NFL, And to me, what's really impressive

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Speaker 4: about that. Also, they're doing that almost exclusively out of

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Speaker 4: Nickel and Dine. They play almost no base defense with

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Speaker 4: you know, with the traditional three B livebackers and that

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Speaker 4: like they've got Devin Witherspoon as at Nickel pretty much

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Speaker 4: every down, So they're really committed to stopping the run.

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Speaker 4: They've done a good job of it, and I don't

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Speaker 4: think they probably have not seen a team yet that

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Speaker 4: is committed to running the ball, just in terms of

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Speaker 4: the numbers is Arizona. So this will be This will

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Speaker 4: be a good chance for them to really test out

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Speaker 4: that run defense.

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Speaker 1: How much of that difference in the run game. The

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Speaker 1: return of Jaron Reid Bobby Wagner back after each were

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Speaker 1: with a different team a year ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, both those guys have been big factors. And Pete

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Speaker 4: Carroll cannot stop raving about Jared Reed, that they they

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Speaker 4: signed Raymond Jones from Denver, who's kind of their big,

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Speaker 4: you know, big money first Daffe agency guy, and he's

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Speaker 4: played well. But what you know from the from the

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Speaker 4: onset of training camp, Pete kept bringing up Jaron Reed

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Speaker 4: and the different he would making there. And I think

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Speaker 4: it may be surprised people that he was the guy

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Speaker 4: he kept pointing to because he's always been a really

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Speaker 4: good player, But wasn't you know it is a prominent

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Speaker 4: of a free agent edition in terms of the money

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Speaker 4: and just the timing of the signing. So he's been fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner, I mean, look, he's a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 4: middle linebacker. He's been, you know, both really good in

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Speaker 4: terms of making plays. He leads a team in tackles,

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Speaker 4: but also I think he just he gets guys right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's seen so much football, he's gonna know

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Speaker 4: how to position guys, you know, the calls to make.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, both those guys I think has been a

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Speaker 4: big difference in this defense.

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Speaker 1: And then last week Jamal Adams made his season Dabe

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Speaker 1: Hugh after thirteen months. So yeah, the Seahawks defense very strong.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, I've waited this long because I'm not

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Speaker 1: expecting Kyler Murray to play. It's too soon after that

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Speaker 1: window was open for him to be on the practice field.

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Speaker 1: But did it perk up some eyes and ears in

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Speaker 1: Seattle about the prospects of number one this week? Or

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Speaker 1: is it just strictly Josh Dobbs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think they're probably gonna be starting

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Speaker 4: a lot of Josh Shobbs because that's what they have

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Speaker 4: pape up. And with it being a new offense, like

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Speaker 4: you can, you know, Kyler Murray does, but he hasn't

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Speaker 4: played in this offense. He had to put it on tape,

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Speaker 4: so I would guess they're assuming to is a guy.

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Speaker 4: But you know, every time we talk to Clint Hurt,

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Speaker 4: the defensive quarter and they're about, you know, whether it's

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Speaker 4: Sekwon Barkley. A couple of weeks ago, as the giants

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Speaker 4: or situational guys are like, they tend to always at

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Speaker 4: least prepare for the possibility of the you know, number

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Speaker 4: one guy being available and then you adjust be not.

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Speaker 4: So I'm sure they're at least looking at this offense

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Speaker 4: and wondering, Okay, how would it look with Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: They've they've obvious seen a lot of Kyler Murray, but

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Speaker 4: again not in this version of the offense. So I

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't think anybody's going to be totally

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Speaker 4: shocked and caught off guard if you were to play.

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Speaker 4: But I'm guessing they're going with the thought that Dobbs

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Speaker 4: is the guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly seems highly unlikely, given that he'll have

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Speaker 1: had three practices plus a walkthrough. I just think he

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Speaker 1: needs a little bit more time. But that that's me.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm as much as I like to say I'm

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Speaker 1: on the inside, I'm with that. I'm completely on the

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Speaker 1: outside here with the Arizona Cardinals. John always appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time looking forward to the matchup on Sunday at one

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Speaker 1: oh five, and again it's a it's always fun when

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Seahawks match up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me and the safe travels up here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the latest weather updates for Seattle cloudy

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Speaker 1: high a sixty low of fifty on Sunday, So I

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Speaker 1: think everyone that is traveling I will not be up there.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone is catching a break given what potentially

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Speaker 1: could be happening in that part of the country.

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Speaker 3: It's funny seeing the people in the office I'll get

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Speaker 3: the weather report because they just know what Seattle could

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Speaker 3: present and to know that you know it's not going

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Speaker 3: to be as bad as it's been in the past.

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Speaker 3: Definitely is something the Cardinal eat any help that they

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Speaker 3: could get right now against the Seahawks. That secondary has

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Speaker 3: played really well for them out there. So if the

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Speaker 3: weather is an assistance for the Cardinals, so be it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with that good stuff from John Boyle again.

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Speaker 3: Seahawks dot Com is where you can catch his stuff

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Speaker 3: if you're looking for more on that aspect of this matchup.

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Speaker 3: More on the Seattle side, but a couple of things

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Speaker 3: that we discussed in that conversation. I think one of

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Speaker 3: the big keys this week is going to be the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals run game and that Seahawks run defense. Because the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks are very good stopping the run. They are top

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Speaker 3: five in a lot of categories, and even without James

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Speaker 3: Connor a week ago, the Cardinals did get over one

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Speaker 3: hundred rushing yards, which is kind of like the benchmark

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Speaker 3: that you want to see. Now, it happened in a loss,

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Speaker 3: but that trio of running backs between Keyanta Ingram, Damian Williams,

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Speaker 3: and Amari de Mercado, that's kind of what we're going

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Speaker 3: to see, I believe until James returns. But it was

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Speaker 3: what Damian Williams was able to do in his limited

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Speaker 3: carries that I think really stood out, someone who had

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Speaker 3: just arrived yet really produced when his number was called.

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Speaker 3: Damian Williams is one of those players that I just

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Speaker 3: did not have on my Bengo card is having an

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Speaker 3: impact and like all jokes aside though, like after Mari

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Speaker 3: de Mercado had the type of game that he did,

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Speaker 3: stepping in from James Connor against the Bengals, getting his

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Speaker 3: first rushing touchdown. All week long ahead of the Rams game,

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Speaker 3: we were talking about the hometown kid coming back home

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Speaker 3: and expecting for him to possibly get RB one touches.

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Speaker 3: We knew that in the depth chart Kyanta Ingram was

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Speaker 3: slated above him, but we still expected Amaro de Mercado

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Speaker 3: to have more than the handful of touches that he

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Speaker 3: did have. But Damie Williams coming in a former Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl champion, a Super Bowl champion that has scored in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl to be on the practice squad elevate

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Speaker 3: him to have the performance.

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 3: Eight rushes thirty six yards, averaging about four and a

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Speaker 3: half per carry. He jumped right into that spot and

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Speaker 3: a run for a team that has relied heavily on

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Speaker 3: the rushing game. When you lose a guy like James Connor,

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Speaker 3: he's irreplaceable. He's a big back, he could run downhill,

658
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Speaker 3: and he's done really well so for the Cardinals. So

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Speaker 3: Damie Williams came into the spot right off the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Three weeks ago, was on his son's nine U sidelines

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Speaker 3: coaching them over there was at his daughter's gymnastics practice.

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Speaker 3: He was telling me and for him to go from

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Speaker 3: that to three weeks later, two weeks later, making having

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Speaker 3: meaningful snaps and rushing for good yards against the Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles Rams was definitely a good site for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: You never know when that phone call is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And that story on Damian Williams will be up on

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Speaker 1: Azycardinals dot com if it's not already, depending on when

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Speaker 1: you catch this episode of Cardinals Cover two persented by Hundai,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Because you like those stories, guys,

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Speaker 1: as Justin Pugh mentioned on Sunday Night Football, Off the Couch,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're in the starting

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Speaker 1: lineup and for pew you're on the active roster. We'll

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Speaker 1: see what the Cardinals do at that running back position.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon likes the rotation, likes the guys in there,

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Speaker 1: and then the wild card and all of this is

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Speaker 1: what Josh Dobbs has been able to do forty seven

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Speaker 1: rushing yards at the Rams. In fact, he's got forty

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Speaker 1: rushing yards and four of the past five games. I'm

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Speaker 1: not too sure. I like the fact that you have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback leading your running backs as far as yards

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Speaker 1: after a game, as Dobbs was and has been a

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Speaker 1: couple of times this season, but most of his runs

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Speaker 1: have been on scrambles where it's third and long, you

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Speaker 1: don't have anyone opened. He did that twice against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he's got fourteen fifteen

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Speaker 1: twenty four yards on a scramble play, not a design run.

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Speaker 3: If after the Falcons came that the quarterback has the

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Speaker 3: most amount of rushing yards, I think we'll both be

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Speaker 3: happy because then we'll see Kyler Murray's has no sense

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Speaker 3: of fear of running out of the pocket until then. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree with you. You never want

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Speaker 3: your quarterback to be your leading rusher for as many

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Speaker 3: weeks as Josh Dopps has been. But it's that dual

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Speaker 3: threat mobility, that dual threat ability to be able to

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Speaker 3: get out of the pocket and make the most yards

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Speaker 3: of yards on the ground definitely is a huge assistance.

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Speaker 3: He adds an element to the offense that's definitely important

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Speaker 3: for Drew Patson's system. And I think once Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: is healthy enough to come back, then that's where you're

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Speaker 3: going to start to see and hope that the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: are able to take advantage of the ability for a

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Speaker 3: quarterback to get out of the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Way dobbs one hundred and eighty nine rushing yards. That

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Speaker 1: is second only to what James Connor has at three

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Speaker 1: sixty four. So yeah, you think you need someone again,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a collection of guys. Don't forget about Rondell Moore.

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Speaker 1: We've seen him line up in the backfield and not

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Speaker 1: just the screen pass that's thrown behind the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmans that counts as a rush.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's so interesting how James Connor and Josh

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Speaker 3: Dobbs have had so much success running the ball, but

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Speaker 3: anytime Keyante or a Mari like besides the one game

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Speaker 3: against the Bengals, and obviously Damian Williams had a good performance,

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Speaker 3: but the first few weeks it just seemed like the

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Speaker 3: backup running backs Kiante and Mari Demarcato were not able

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Speaker 3: to get anything going. I heard somebody in the locker room,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure who it was, said like, do you

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Speaker 3: just not like those guys and they're just able to

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Speaker 3: get to the backfield. I'm not sure what it is,

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Speaker 3: but it's definitely something. As these weeks go on, and

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Speaker 3: as James Connor remained sidelined, you're running backs definitely have

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Speaker 3: to start picking up some ground.

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Speaker 1: Seattle fifth against the run, number one as far as

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Speaker 1: yards per play, just three point two. And don't forget

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Speaker 1: you got you're on reed. Bobby Wagner. They just welcome

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Speaker 1: back Jamal Adams, some familiar faces on that Seahawks defense.

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Speaker 1: So something to keep an eye on on Sunday. And

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Speaker 1: then when you look offensively as far as what the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks do and what the Cardinals defense can do, and

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Speaker 1: we touched on it earlier, and that is get a takeaway,

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Speaker 1: whether that's a fumble, which the Seahawks have not fumbled,

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Speaker 1: they haven't even lost the football, let alone fumbled it.

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Speaker 1: But it's the turnovers and making sure you affect Geno

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Speaker 1: Smith in that pocket. He has been very good when

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Speaker 1: you blitz him. Well, the Cardinals don't blitz a whole

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Speaker 1: heck of a lot, so you don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about that. Now you're just wondering about that back in.

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's more of I think that Cardinals secondary,

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Speaker 1: ie the cornerbacks, have taken enough hits to where it's

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Speaker 1: all right if you're those edge rushers here, those six

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Speaker 1: guys in that room, however many are active, maybe all

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Speaker 1: six are. You need to start getting home on a

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Speaker 1: couple of lease and what doesn't have to be a sack,

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Speaker 1: but get some hits, get some knockdowns, get some hurries,

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Speaker 1: get some pressures.

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Speaker 3: You gotta make Genosmith feel your presence on the field.

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Speaker 3: You can't just let him start looking down and feel

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Speaker 3: and then albeit not looking at any of the edge

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Speaker 3: rushers because they're not getting into the backfield. The Cardinals

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Speaker 3: defense definitely has to make some noise around Gino Smith,

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Speaker 3: start backing the offensive line into him, start closing in

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Speaker 3: that pocket a little bit more, making the most of

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Speaker 3: it in that case. But I found it very interesting.

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Speaker 3: I remember a few weeks back, Josh Dobbs was talking

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Speaker 3: about how the ball is like the organizationals, hopes and dreams.

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Speaker 3: That's how the Seattle Seahawks have viewed it. They're tied

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Speaker 3: for the top of the league and turn in the

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Speaker 3: fewest amount of turnovers so far, so to see just

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Speaker 3: the type of performance that they've been able to put

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Speaker 3: and how careful they've been with the ball. The Cardinals

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Speaker 3: definitely have the ability to force Gino Smith to make mistakes.

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Speaker 3: But a big part of it, as you mentioned, Craig,

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Speaker 3: is getting to that backfield and making sure Gino Smith

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Speaker 3: knows you're there.

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Speaker 1: And as we touched on with John Boyle earlier, the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks offensive line all five of their starters have shown

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Speaker 1: up on the injury report this week, which to the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Elijah Wilkinson one name, and the Cardinals to date

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Speaker 1: knock On Wood haven't had an offensive line and miss

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Speaker 1: a game. A starter miss a game, but that Seahawks

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Speaker 1: offensive line is banged up. Their starting center Evan Brown

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Speaker 1: dealing with the hip issue, and then Phil Haynes a

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Speaker 1: calf he's your starting right guard. Those are the two

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Speaker 1: biggest as far as the most serious of the injuries

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Speaker 1: to the potential. The Seahawks could be without two of

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Speaker 1: their interior pieces, which also hopefully helps the Cardinals get

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Speaker 1: some pressure if you're able to take an event once again,

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Speaker 1: this is the type of game that the Cardinals need

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Speaker 1: to have that momentum. The past couple of weeks, I

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Speaker 1: know JG has said that the vibes in the locker

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Speaker 1: room everything is still good and that the mission has

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Speaker 1: not changed. They just want to improve, try to go

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Speaker 1: one to zero each week, but to have a win

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Speaker 1: would definitely be huge for this locker room in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: the first divisional win. At that Cardinals have lost three

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Speaker 1: in a row. They are one and after this week

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Speaker 1: they will be home to the Baltimore Ravens. But first

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Speaker 1: things first, and that is a w in Seattle. Again,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals nine wins at lumen Field since it opened

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and two. That is more than any

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Speaker 1: other visiting team. And again that spans different coaching staffs,

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Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, different players. Can this group of Cardinals go

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Speaker 1: up to Seattle, and again we touched on the weather,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be nice, little cloudy, not much of

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Speaker 1: a bad weather situation. Can you go up there and

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Speaker 1: string together not a first half, but a first and.

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Speaker 3: A second half that's putting to those sixty minutes is

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Speaker 3: definitely the Cardinal's biggest downfall right now.

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Speaker 1: The first forty five.

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Speaker 3: Have even been great for a lot of the season.

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Speaker 3: This is the type of game I keep mentioning it.

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Speaker 3: This is the type of game where you hope that

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Speaker 3: things get to be turned around because with the way

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Speaker 3: that you have your two stars elevated to start practicing

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Speaker 3: they have designated to return, you want to give them

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Speaker 3: some room so that they still put potentially have something

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Speaker 3: to fight for in this season, because I mean, I know,

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Speaker 3: like when I know Josh Woods mentioned the flower analogy

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Speaker 3: that Nick Rolis stole from Nick Sirianni back in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: He borrowed a stall it. He borrowed it.

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Speaker 3: He said he stole it, Okay, but I mean he

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Speaker 3: did steal it, but he borrowed it, craiglu he borrowed

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Speaker 3: it anyway. Point being though, the Philadelphia Eagles when that

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Speaker 3: happened were two and five when Nick Sirianni gave that

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Speaker 3: reference and they turned it around and they made the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Right now, the Cardinals still have a chance for that

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00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: to still happen. To get to two and five, they

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Speaker 3: gotta win this coming game against the Seattle Seahawks. Crazier

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Speaker 3: things have happened in the NFL. It's one of the

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Speaker 3: most wild sports. And the way that these standings match up,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure we're under the comic consensus that the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers are going to be your NFC West

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Speaker 3: champions with the way everything is going. But to still fight,

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Speaker 3: I know, I might be crazy for even thinking about

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Speaker 3: the type of playoffs that the Cardinals could potentially have.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the optimist to me. I heard you talking

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Speaker 3: with Danny last week about the optimist, the realist, the

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Speaker 3: pessimist and everything like that. Maybe I'll jump myself into

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Speaker 3: that optimist group. But there still is a lot of

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Speaker 3: hope in this locker room.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to fall to zero to three, even

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Speaker 1: though all three of those games are on the road,

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Speaker 1: within the division. It's not a good way to start

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Speaker 1: if you're hoping to build out of this hole. Climb

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Speaker 1: out of this hole right now. Cardinals again. One and

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Speaker 1: five kickoff on Sunday one oh five, eight thirty. Pre

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Speaker 1: game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a good guy here and in this

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Speaker 1: show here on a Friday, because Zach's got work to do,

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Speaker 1: and I would hate if you are late to first

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Speaker 1: pitch for game four. Come on, Larry Fitzgerald's throwing out

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Speaker 1: the first that's true. So technically, you know what, you

844
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Speaker 1: could get a credential and go down and speak to Larry.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to.

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Speaker 1: Just don't wear any Phillies gear and you'll be okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't need the credit anymore. All right, there you go, Well,

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Speaker 1: enjoy yourself, thank you, just not too much. Nope, And

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Speaker 1: hopefully a week from today when we reconvene here on

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Speaker 1: a football Friday, that you're not as smiling, as happy

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Speaker 1: as you are right.

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Speaker 3: Now, jaw dropped that. You know what, Thank you, the

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Speaker 3: challenge accepted. Motivation right, Come on, Rob Thomson, come on.

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Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lid on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, proud partner

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Speaker 1: executive producer jim Mo Mohunre, our associate producer Cody Fincher

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Speaker 1: for Zach Gershman, I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to

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