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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocates Law dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thomas is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Sophie. So in

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Speaker 2: just a few minutes, we're gonna call Sophie and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe

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Speaker 2: get him another date. But before we do that, Thomas,

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Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Sophie.

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Speaker 3: It's been about four days.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's not too bad. You sure you're getting ghosted.

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Speaker 5: I have sent a few messages and I haven't heard back,

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Speaker 5: So at this point I do.

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Speaker 4: Think I'm get ghosted. Okay, well, let's hear about your date.

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Speaker 4: How did that go?

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Speaker 5: So, in my mind it went pretty well. I think

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Speaker 5: we had some drinks and advertisers. We got to know

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Speaker 5: each other a little bit, and it was good overall.

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Speaker 5: There was one moment where we I don't even want

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Speaker 5: to call it an argument, but we did have a

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Speaker 5: little like heated back and forth for a minute. So

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Speaker 5: that's why I'm thinking that's what it probably was.

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Speaker 3: If I were to guess.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the heated back and forth. In

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Speaker 2: just a second. How'd you get there?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: We were just we were just getting kidding, like getting food.

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Speaker 5: I picked her up and we went and uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: just got some food and drinks and it was pretty

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Speaker 4: So what was the heated debate about then?

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Speaker 5: So we were going through uh we were talking about

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Speaker 5: my dating profile and stuff, and she kept just being like, uh,

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Speaker 5: so what's your real hide or or so what's your

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Speaker 5: real job?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you It's right here, like

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Speaker 3: I already said it. Oh believe me?

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Speaker 5: Uh or it seems like she didn't believe me, and

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Speaker 5: so it just got kind of a back and forth.

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Speaker 5: But once I cleared it up, I feel like everything

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Speaker 5: for the.

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Speaker 3: Rest of the night was good and we have fun.

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Speaker 2: Was she joking or she actually legit didn't believe it?

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Speaker 3: It seemed like she she didn't believe me.

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Speaker 1: If she didn't believe you, that that wasn't a you problem,

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Speaker 1: Like I think that that would just mean that she'd

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Speaker 1: been lied to and those apps had been leading her

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Speaker 1: astray many times before you. So you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: it would depend on how you've responded to that. So

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Speaker 1: you yelled back or what what did.

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Speaker 3: That sound like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I don't think. I wasn't trying to Uh.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't yelling back or anything.

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Speaker 3: But I think after the second time, I'm kind of like, so,

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Speaker 3: what's your real job? I was kind of like, well,

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Speaker 3: this is my real job, Like these are this is

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Speaker 3: what I did. That was I'm not lying.

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Speaker 5: I might have sounded a little more in chence, So

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Speaker 5: that's why I was saying. It wasn't really an argument.

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Speaker 5: It was just kind of like a heated thing from

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Speaker 5: for a second.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can I ask, was there like your height,

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Speaker 1: exact height?

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Speaker 4: Sous lie about their height to ask it's there.

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Speaker 3: I don't do that. I put it. I put my

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Speaker 3: real height on there, and I put my job on there.

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Speaker 1: That's cool that you're out here telling the truth. I

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Speaker 1: think that that's understandable. And it not understandable, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we respect that.

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Speaker 3: Are you a shorter, dude, I'm six foot flat.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I don't think it was the height. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it was the height here. Was there anything else

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Speaker 4: that happened on the date that may have caused a

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Speaker 4: little bit of I don't say tension, but I was gonna

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Speaker 4: say friction. But usually friction could be a good thing.

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Speaker 1: She did word she kind of asked for it. She

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Speaker 1: kind of walked right into friction. Maybe she's one of

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Speaker 1: those people that gets turned on by arguments. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know how some people are into that and they

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Speaker 1: like like a heated debate. So maybe if you engaged

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Speaker 1: for a minute and then diffused it, maybe she got bored.

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Speaker 1: That would be really sad and that would be a

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Speaker 1: flag on your side, but maybe interesting.

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Speaker 4: How did things end with you guys?

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Speaker 5: It was pretty good. We we hugged, We didn't kiss,

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Speaker 5: but it wasn't It didn't feel like things were bad.

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Speaker 5: It felt like at that point the energy had kind

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Speaker 2: Did you say anything about future plans, like you know,

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Speaker 2: when you guys parted.

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Speaker 5: Ways, I said, I'll text you and she said, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, right, well and you've heard nothing in fourdey,

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Speaker 2: So we'll play a song come Back, and then call

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Speaker 2: her see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you another day to right awesome, thank you, Right,

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Speaker 2: we'll play on come Back, Get your first day follow

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Speaker 2: up next right in the middle of.

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Speaker 4: Today's first date follow up.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining Thomas is on the phone and

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Speaker 2: Thomas is getting ghosted by Sophie. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: call her right now and see if she'll tell us

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Speaker 2: why she's ghosting and maybe get him another date. But

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Speaker 2: before we do that, Thomas, why don't you catch everybody

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Speaker 2: up on your date with Sophie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, Sophie and I met on one of the

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Speaker 3: dating apps. We ended up going out for drinks and appetizers.

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Speaker 3: It was a pretty good time overall. At the beginning,

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Speaker 3: we were going over my dating profile and.

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Speaker 5: She was pointing out some like things that she thought

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Speaker 5: were maybe I was lying about but I wasn't, and

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Speaker 5: so they got kind of a little tension there for

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Speaker 5: a moment, but after that it was all right. But

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard from her since, so hoping to just

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Speaker 5: clarify that up with her and have another date.

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Speaker 4: All right, Were you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Huh h.

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Speaker 2: I'm aspeak to Sophie. Please, Sophie, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jubil and I host a radio show.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi. Sophie Imina also on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Hi on the phone with you. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 7: There's so many of you.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on the show it's called

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Speaker 2: the first Day follow Up. So that's where if you

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Speaker 2: go out on a date with somebody and then you

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Speaker 2: end up ghosting them, that person can get have us

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Speaker 2: get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them.

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Speaker 2: So you're currently actively ghosting somebody I think, okay, and

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Speaker 2: his name is Thomas.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, and you.

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Speaker 4: Went out with him like a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, it was like like four or five days

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he says you haven't talked to him since

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Speaker 2: you guys have gone out, so we're wondering if you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'm going I'm just like really awkward

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Speaker 7: about sending the text. It's like I'm not interested, so

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Speaker 7: it is avoid doing that. On our date, he like

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Speaker 7: we got into like a fight, and I just feel

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Speaker 7: like if you get into like a fight on your

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Speaker 7: first date, like it's probably not going to work out.

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Speaker 4: What was the fight about.

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Speaker 7: It was just like a couple of things, Like he

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Speaker 7: I'm six feet and I'm just he's not. And so

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Speaker 7: that was weird, and he got really like defensive about it.

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Speaker 7: And then I was like asking him about his job,

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Speaker 7: but he just like kept deflecting and like not answering

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, I just think he's like I

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Speaker 3: Not into it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you guys were legit arguing because he told

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Speaker 2: sounded like it might have been a playful thing.

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Speaker 1: To me.

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Speaker 8: He wasn't playful, not for me, Like I was getting

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Speaker 8: and I'm just like, I don't even know if his job,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I was sketched out.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't get the vibe that he was lying

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Speaker 7: Well because like before we had just been like texting

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Speaker 7: And then when I met him in person, like, I

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Speaker 7: He seems fine before.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, like like just what the job saying.

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Speaker 7: It's like I don't know what answering your question with

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Speaker 4: So because I felt like he wasn't truthful with.

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Speaker 7: You, yeah, I mean he definitely are would be literally

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Speaker 3: Truthful at all.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, well let's ask him because now I have

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Speaker 4: to be truthful. Sophie. Thomas is on the other line

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Speaker 3: Hey, Sophie, Uh, it's awkward.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 5: I just hold on because I feel like maybe I

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Speaker 5: wasn't there at dinner and stuff. I was not lying

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Speaker 5: about those things, and it seems like you still feel

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Speaker 5: like I was lying.

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Speaker 7: First of all, sorry if I said all that stuff

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Speaker 7: about you, Uh, it seems like you were lying and.

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Speaker 3: It's weird.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, I was like, oh, great, like good,

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Speaker 5: we had a good first conversation that like we're at

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Speaker 5: least like expressing like ourselves and being honest. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I felt like that was a good way

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Speaker 5: to start our relationship.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't lying.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like I feel stuck for it because

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Speaker 5: it feels like there's nothing I can say that will

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Speaker 4: Well, what do you consult on?

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Speaker 3: I mean, just various businesses hire me?

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Speaker 7: Okay that you guys, come on, that's like, what is that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that's cool. So what did you consult on

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Speaker 4: your last job?

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Speaker 5: It was it was a it was a construction business, okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: would you consult with them?

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Speaker 4: Like with that? What do you do specializing in construction?

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Speaker 3: Just sort of coding and just general like permit stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I mean it's like you didn't really answer anything.

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Speaker 7: About anything.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, what project are you working.

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Speaker 7: On right now?

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Speaker 3: Right now? I'm in between projects.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so what was your last project?

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Speaker 3: The one that just finished? It was it was for

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Speaker 3: an updating like a subway station?

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Speaker 4: What I mean, people really do this?

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Speaker 3: Does this sound like that's true?

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Speaker 5: I can.

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Speaker 2: I can see your Selfie's side on this, Thomas. You're

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Speaker 2: not giving enough detail to make it sound convincing.

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Speaker 4: Really, I was.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna I mean, the truth is I worked for what.

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Speaker 5: Was my dad company, and I still you know, I've

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Speaker 5: taken over a lot of responsibility.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like maybe that's that's something.

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Speaker 5: I've been hesitant to say because it's not like I

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Speaker 5: built it myself.

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Speaker 4: I think that's where also, maybe there doesn't need to

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Speaker 4: be that much pressure on your job on a first date.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, fine, okay, so really what about the height?

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Speaker 3: Like how tall are you? Actually?

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Speaker 5: When I go to the doctor, they say I'm a

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Speaker 5: six foot flat?

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Speaker 7: Are you paying?

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Speaker 3: Like we're not, Hey, if you want to go on

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Speaker 3: another date, you could measure me.

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Speaker 2: Oh there you go, Sophie. Would you like to go

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Speaker 2: on another date with Thomas? We'll pay for it. Then

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Speaker 2: you can measure him no.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to measure him. I don't want to

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Speaker 7: do that. Okay, No, there's absolutely no way.

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Speaker 1: They don't sound that compatible. To be honest, we're not, okay.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being honest.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for thinking me, well, it's your lost, because yeah,

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Speaker 6: you could have measured me in more ways than one.

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Speaker 4: Oh Juble's first day follow up