WEBVTT - I Saw What You Did - Cabbage Patch Core 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.520 Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:13.880 You Did. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.520 My name is Millie to Jericho. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.840 I'm Daniel Henderson, and. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.000 Yeah we're here with y'all. Last couple laps. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.280 How you feeling feeling good? 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.960 I'm very dark today. I'm in a closet recording. Oh 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:33.720 at my new place. So hopeful that your bedroom, Yeah, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.160 but hopefully. This just sounds like a voice from the dark. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.560 I'm like ragged sounding today. I didn't even do anything 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.840 fun last night. You're hungover, but I didn't do anything 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:42.519 fun last night. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.360 Big reveal, I'm hungover today. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.840 You look like you You look like you were in 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.280 you were This is like a movie about you having 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:59.080 an extramarital fair, and it's like the morning after where 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.080 you've been processed saying like what are you going to do? 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.160 Like are we going to tell the husband? Or you know, 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.240 like the soft betting. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:07.400 There's like a soft. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.080 Betting behind you and you're kind of like front. It's 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:12.640 like front of camera, So. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.160 I'm gonna reveal all And the answer is yes, Fuck everybody, 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:17.800 I'm kidding. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:18.480 I'm kidding. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.679 Well, I think we it looks like we've both had 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:23.120 a night. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.959 I think that's what I mean that I had an 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:31.039 old person night of just ragged sleep and now my 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.640 glasses are fogging up on the bottom, yeah, which means 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.319 like my face is really hot for some reason. So yeah, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:39.480 we both were both in it. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:40.520 Yeah. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.320 Well yeah, I decided to go out last night, very 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.080 last minute. I had, actually I have a lot of 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.720 responsibilities that I needed to attend to, and I was like, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.040 I should just stay home and like, you know, prepare 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.040 for things that I'm doing, and you know, like I 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.640 don't know, just get the like get the week started early, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.680 which is so sad because it's like, I don't know, Yeah, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.080 anytime I use like a weekend to prepare for the 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:05.440 next week, it makes me want. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.079 To I know, I'm alive myself, you know, I know, 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:10.840 so I'm. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.680 Like, God, what is my life? But then at the 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.800 last minute I decided to go out because I'm friends 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:15.760 of mine were like where are you? 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:16.960 Where are you? Which is. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.600 I cave to that very quickly. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:22.680 I don't know if you do. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.600 If somebody calls and is like where are you at? 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:25.119 Where are you at? 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.119 How come you're not here? I bet you you don't 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.040 leave the house. I bet you just stay like a 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.480 normal life stay. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.440 If someone is like, where are you at, it's usually 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.320 nighttime and I'm usually I'm ready for bed at six pm. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.920 Let's just say that, like, you got to get me 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:43.560 early in the day if you want me to go 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.440 out at night, if you want to like where you're at? 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:45.960 Where you at? 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.720 I'm like, I'm I'm where I'm supposed to be. I'm home, yeah, 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.360 and ready for bed. My night routine is done, the 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:54.400 retainer is in. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:55.799 Yeah. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.320 But I don't know that's that's country Danielle. City Danielle 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.160 might be a different person. If someone's like where you 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.200 at it, you know, eight o'clock, I might be able 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.400 to rally, but usually I stay home because I live 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:09.040 in the woods. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:09.920 Yeah. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.520 Well, and this is the thing too, is so like 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.560 I just I think I'm just very you know, I 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.320 have a little bit of fomo in me. Where somebody's 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:20.000 like where are you? 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.639 You're missing the greatest type of old type. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.320 And if especially if it's like multiple people, like if 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:30.359 it's multiple friends at the same thing and they'll text you, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.799 I get so I'm like, fine, I'll just fucking get 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.120 out of my pajamas. But I will say this, it 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:42.480 doesn't now. I just kind of go as is. I mean, 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.200 I'm not wearing pajamas, but I'm also like not putting 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:45.800 on the ritz. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:48.480 Yeah. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.760 And it was funny because in my twenties I was 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:55.920 always like out and I would see sometimes a middle 0:03:55.920 --> 0:04:03.920 aged person, mostly men, who just looked like disheveled, like 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:08.280 guys in like their car heart outfits, like I don't 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.480 know if they just came from work or whatever, and 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.200 they were not like they were the only person in 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.840 the club that wasn't like kind of dressed up in 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.840 some kind of way, Like they just looked like they 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.040 came off the factory line or you know. And now 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.039 I know why. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.640 Because their friends dragged them out. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.480 Yeah, they had fomo as a middle aged person decided 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.320 to just go out because they wanted to experience whatever 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.599 it was. But they didn't want to get ready or anything. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.080 They were just like I'm just gonna wear my fucking 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:42.000 sweatsuit and have not coat my hair. I'll maybe brush 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.520 my teeth, but that's about it. I'm not doing anything else. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.240 You got me? 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.000 Yeah, I rolled out last night like no no makeup, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.400 Like I just was like I put some lipstick on, 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.920 no makeup. I put on a wool cap I look 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:03.240 like Mike Nestsmith from The Monkeys just was like whatever, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.719 and I was like rolling around like and it was. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.839 It was one of those nights too, where you know, 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:13.239 it was a it's a fall evening in Atlanta. Everybody's out. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.839 Yeah, it's crazy. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.200 Like there's like a dude. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.080 In, you know, like a Michael Myers mass like shredding 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.000 on a guitar with his ant like on the corner 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.159 on the street. Corner there's like people making out on 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.280 the street, puking in the street. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.599 Oh my god, I love this for Atlanta. I know. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.760 No, it's East Atlanta Village, which it's I think we've 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.640 been there, like East Atlanta Village. And I'm not just 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:47.359 saying this because I'm an East Atlanta gal. Is like 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:53.440 if a Bourbon Street was punk rock, Like it's nice. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.560 It is absolutely a mess. It's a mess, but the 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.520 people that go there are cool as fuck, if that 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:01.040 makes sense. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.640 So it's not like fucking perfect. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.800 Yeah, it is like truly kind of perfect, and it's 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.479 like super rough around the edges, like, but it's like 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.680 the cool like it's it's this like beautiful mix of 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:19.960 like different races, different genders, different ages, but there's like 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.839 no frat boys. 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.120 If you have a corner of your city where you 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.760 can go out and if you're a drinker, if you 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.000 can drink or just hang out with your friends, and 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.440 it hasn't been infiltrated by a frat boye that keep 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.640 it protected, gate, keep it, lock it down. That is 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.039 the pinnacle of wonder. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.200 Yeah, And I think that's because because it retains a 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.520 little bit of its crime. But like all the bars 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.880 in that neighborhood are like kind of punk rock, heavy 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.800 metal bars. There's like a lot of black clubs down there. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.479 There's you know, obviously Mary's, There's you know, a bunch 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.000 of places to see concerts. So it's just like cool neighborhood. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.440 And then when it gets like lit, like when the 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.800 magic the alchemy of the of the fall night happens, 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:11.640 and it gets just insane. It really feels like anarchy, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.320 but in the best way. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.520 That is my favorite. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.880 I've only experienced it a few times, but that is 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.840 my absolute favorite kind of night out. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.080 And I bet you looked cool as shit. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.000 And I say this not just because I know that's 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.320 true that you look cool as shit, but I have 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:34.480 to believe that anyone who is comfortable, looks great, because 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.720 that is my entire m o. 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:37.480 Ye. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.840 Like, I'm to the point where, while I'm here in La, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.920 I'm considering hiring a friend of mine who's incredibly stylish 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.000 to like teach me how to be a person again, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.960 Like how do I how do I dress to look nice? 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.560 And I've never known how to put on makeup, so 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.720 I might ask her to help me learn how to 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.480 put on makeup because I just feel like, all right, girl, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.160 your forty evan. You don't have to change who you are, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.640 but if you would like to look more awake when 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.880 you leave the house, there are ways that you can 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:07.160 do that. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.000 I mean, I'm just gonna tell you lipstick that's really 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.920 the only thing you need. Honestly, that's like that's what 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.960 I'm wearing right now. I have nothing on my face 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.760 except for lipstick. Really, oh yeah right, it's like the 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.880 one thing that I figured out makes me look awake, 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.360 Like I'm just like, oh, I'm up for the day. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.240 I don't know what it is, it really is the secret. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:34.440 Sauce and European woman for generations have believed this. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.760 So and you have perfect skin, so it's like, just 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.080 wear a little lipstick and you're fine. And it's not 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:44.000 even about now vanity or anything. It's just a no, 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.400 it's just even a bomb, like a bomb just to. 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.840 I'm gonna i'll I'm gonna dig back in a little 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.480 bit of You might see me at an Alta or 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.439 a Sephora around these parts. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.560 Yeah, but I don't know. 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.319 You should look at your nipple and find out what 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.440 your perfect nude shade is? What? 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.360 Yeah, that's like how you find out what? 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.000 Ww do people just know this shit? What are you 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:07.600 talking about? 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.959 I mean, I'm awfully looking at my nips, but for lipstick. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.600 Well, that's that's like this whole They say that the 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.960 perfect nude shade or the perfect lip color for your 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.920 face is what the color your nipple is. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.640 See now, the deftly know so much about people out 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.560 in these streets, like everyone I meet. Now I'm gonna 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:31.280 be like, so that's what your nips look like. I 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:32.320 don't hear any of this shit. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.360 I miss all of the. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:36.440 Is it or is it? 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.840 You'll never know, boys, you'll never know. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.480 I love when when people wear bright red lipstick. I'll 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.160 be like, all right, there's some issues going on. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:47.920 I know. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.040 I sometimes I go for that like I used to 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.040 there was like a period of like nine months where 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.160 I wore only hot pink lipstick and people I used 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.080 to get complimented all the time. But then I was like, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.800 I don't know, that just felt like a moment and 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.000 I don't feel like that's a long term look for me. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.559 But yeah, yeah, listen, I'm always gonna advocate for if 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.760 you just want to you know, a little a little 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.880 feel good, you know, just throw it in there. It's 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:16.760 not no commitments, but honestly, like being comfortable going out 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.679 is absolutely crucial, totally everyone. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.360 Who, everyone who looks who. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.040 I remember when I used to go out who I 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:28.760 was like, wow, they look fucking great, effortless, comfortably cool. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.280 Yeah yeah, I think so too. And like I I 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:34.960 think it's because of when I was young and I 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.440 was going out, I was so you know, like wanting 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.640 to be in the mix and was really self conscious 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.360 about like wanting to impress, like especially older people. I 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.800 was always like, oh my god, like I like older 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.480 people and like wanting to like fit seamlessly into their scene. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.000 So I was always so concerned about whether or not 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.400 I looked cool enough or like was able to occupy 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.720 the space so sad, but it's true, that's what your 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.520 twenties are for. And now I'm like, oh no, I'm 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.880 the fucking dude in the car, heart against the wall, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:13.360 not giving a fuck, and everybody's like, whoo, who is this? 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.720 Like what a cool customer. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.560 For for real? For real? And this is where I 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:21.560 feel like I'm also. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.320 I've got like lifelong dirt bag problems, maybe because I've 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.400 just never I've done that like twenty year old where 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.920 like you know, the tight thing and the victorious secret underwear, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.400 and like I've tried that and just instantly decided it 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.320 wasn't for me. So I feel like I've just maybe 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.679 never outwardly expressed how cool I feel inside because I 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.600 think I'm pretty cool, but on the outside, I. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.240 Look like what is that? What is going on there? 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:50.920 So I feel like I just want them to match. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.040 Yeah, now not like changing my style, but I want 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.640 them to match because I think I've just been a 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.240 lifelong dirt bag. Yeah, and I have no reason to 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.360 change if I when I live at home, but then 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.000 I have to come out in the wild like this, 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.520 and I'm like, oh, I've been wearing the same T 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.600 shirts for twenty five years. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.160 It's literally a T shirt I had twenty five years 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.040 ago because I buy all my T shirts huge. Yeah, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:15.920 So yeah, I gotta. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.280 I just want the outside to match the inside, and 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:19.560 the inside is cool as shit. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:24.520 So yeah, and listen, I'm like, I'll tell you right now, kids, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:27.200 kids will worship you. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:28.760 They will like. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.920 One thing that I have figured out, and this is 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:38.880 no slight to gen Z or to anyone younger, is 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:44.400 that you know, y'all are really into core, right, I 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.559 think that's been established, is that y'all are into bank core. Yes, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:55.439 the aesthetics of things blank core, car hardcore, yeah, lipstick 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.880 only core, whatever the fuck you want to call it. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.080 Cabbage catch core, cab. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.280 And most people our age had to really commit to 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.680 a subculture, right. We had to, like, we had to 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.719 commit and we had to we had to like go 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.680 through the motions of going to the club and be 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.280 worried about whether or not older people were gonna like us. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.120 You know, now, I think these young kids don't have 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.640 that as much as we did. There was no like 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.480 gate keepers that we needed to like, you know, right 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.080 to uh to they had to buy into us or whatever. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.640 But when it comes to the style part, like they 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.640 don't y'all know what y'all are doing. Y'all are just 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.840 doing the aesthetic. There's no commitment to the lifestyle. Yet 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.960 we got the commitment to the lifestyle. We have like 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.080 the track record of all the fucking Triple xl T 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.679 shirts that we had to like fight for and these concerts, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.040 and we were like really living it. So it's like 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.679 when when y'all see somebody in gen X that was 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:04.640 like a stone cold fucking real head, They're like they 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.280 will walk up to you and be like, oh my god, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.559 you are so hocus pocus core, like really live it. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.480 You're beautiful. They were like, thank you, Yes, I existed 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.400 before hocus Pocus. By the way, did you know that 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.440 goth existed before hocus Pocus and people were dressed in 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.120 like fucking witches for a very long time? Oh my god, 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.920 we really lived that fucking life. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:27.840 Oh for real. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.240 I was this is I was in a parking lot 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.400 the other day and I was backing up and it 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.240 was a really tight squeeze. So I was backing up 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.080 and there was a like this red SUV behind me 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:41.400 and I was fine. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.640 I was completely fine. I wasn't even just completely. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.640 Fine, and the guy in the car like came out 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.880 of the store and was like just kind of looking 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.160 and it wasn't He wasn't angry about it. He was 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.880 just like, uh, wish I get because LA drivers are 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.640 fucking nuts. And when I finished my little three point turn, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.080 I rolled down my wind and I was like, you're cool, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.720 like I didn't hit your car, and he's like, no, no, no, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.280 It's like I came out because I wasn't worried you 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:06.000 were gonna hit my car. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.600 I was just impressed that you were able to do that. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:10.920 And I was like, oh, well, I learned how to 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.360 drive in like the eighties and nineties, so I don't 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.480 even use these cameras, like it's all it's all fucking visual, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:17.080 Like I'm. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.880 On, I'm turn that head. I'll even turn that buckinghead. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:21.840 So he was like, oh, he's like eighties and nineties 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:23.600 and he was like, but you look so young, and 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.600 I said, well, you got to keep it tight, but 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.720 I'm old as shit, and then I just drove away. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.760 It was the funniest and coolest fucking moment of my year. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.160 Probably Listen. 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.720 I literally just came off of a TikTok where I 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.920 watched Jack Carlow, the rapper Jack Carlow talk about he 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.720 only likes women who were born in the seventies, and 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:48.200 I was. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.360 Like, my man, like Jack Carlow knows what's up because 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:52.800 he was just. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:53.720 Like twenty five. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.520 Like I was like, right, listen, oh my god, no, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.600 I was just like this this young man was just 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.120 like I'm impressed by and I'm like, if that's all 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.600 it takes, then ask me out, because I know he. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.640 Was like fucking plummixed. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.800 That's I think the thing about and this is all 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.240 going to pull back to eventually what I'm going to 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.520 talk about today, even though we've gone about. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.240 Twenty minutes already. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.560 That is the thing that's so hard to figure out 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.600 as you get older, is like, what's my value in 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.720 the world, Because the world doesn't value anymore. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.480 They put you out the pasture, they throw you away 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:29.280 in the fucking dumpster. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.560 Yeah. But like, the thing that I have to remember 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.680 is that younger people have no confidence, that they have 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:42.800 no way to navigate. Uh, you know, simple things like 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.480 we do right, like our lived and experience, our toil 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.960 is equals authenticity to them, and they will always worship 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.200 us for that. For the most part. Like unless you're 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.360 absolute goblin and you're a horrible person. For the most part, 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:05.240 like most cool individuals will, you know, lean towards authenticity 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.919 and real people, you know, I did when I was 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.159 in my place, like you think I was like riding 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.159 around like trying to find the car heart guys to 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.600 be like can I hang with you against the wall exactly? 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.399 You know, Like I wanted that when I was their age. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.119 So I feel like now we're just the baton has 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:24.119 been passed. You know, go out with no fucking makeup on. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.480 Do whatever you've got to do. Do not use the 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.320 rearview cameras. You can do it yourself. People will literally 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.400 come out of a store and wish it for it. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.399 So it was I just I it was definitely a 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.920 moment where I realized that some kind of baton had 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.080 been passed. Yeah, because he also at one point when 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.679 I said like, oh, I learned how to drive in 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.240 the eighties and early nineties, and he was like, I 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:50.680 was born in the eighties, And I was. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:55.320 Like like, oh, okay, okay, I gotcha. 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.760 But like a baton has been passed for sure, and 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.720 I'll take that baton. But I just if that's all 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.520 it takes is me just being real. Well, I can't 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.359 do anything but be real, So just saying I'm old 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.400 as shit and zooming away and leaving this man standing 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.199 there like staring after me. I just felt like I 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.560 was like I was getting on a horse and running 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.280 off into the sunset after like robbing a saloon. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:22.880 It felt great. 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:27.280 Oh yeah, it's like the fucking like Smooth Criminal by 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:28.879 Michael Jackson plays. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.119 Doom Doom, Do do. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:33.399 That's you? 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.240 Well, yeah, you did have something else that you want 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:40.639 to talk about, though, So I don't want to get 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.040 too meyered down and how cool we are now that 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:43.960 we're older. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:52.280 Well this will glie gently into another round of serial killers. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.840 Oh hell yeah, it's probably our last round. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:02.240 Maybe maybe oh my done one of these you fail. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.240 Since I failed fucking miserably because I hadn't hung out 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:10.800 with you in so long, I didn't realize you were 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.239 the kind of bit you put fucking lawn ornaments all 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:14.400 over her shit anymore. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.640 You were like, this is a fucking betrayal, and I'm like. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:27.800 Man, crumple our relationship for Jesus, No, it was it 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.760 was a stark realization that, like I need to hang 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.639 out with you more than we did, so I fixed it. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.159 But like that was the true betrayal. Everyone's like, oh, 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.880 your chernobyl answer was the betrayal. No, the true betrayal 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.440 is merely becoming a whole different person in between rounds 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:41.960 of serial Killer or Self Care. 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.480 Well, you know we throw surprises at each other. We 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.720 can't know each other completely, right. You gotta keep a 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.880 little mystery and the keep it spicy. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.600 You know all about a mystery. 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.720 I'm angling towards becoming more mysterious as I get older. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.600 Uh, well, you're already again, like you just said, fucking 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.560 people coming out of stores trying to figure you out. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:04.720 I think you're doing a good job. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.520 Okay, so there's five five of these. 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:09.440 Are you ready for five? 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.920 I'm ready. I got my coffee, I've got water. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.320 Okay, good, I'm ready hydrate. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:18.159 I am treating this like a sport. 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.679 Okay. So maybe some of this won't make sense, but 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.399 I don't care a fuck. We're ending the podcast Son 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:34.000 Cares serial Killer Yourself Care question one googling liquor while 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:35.640 you're standing at the bar. 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.560 Okay, for you self care? 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:45.720 Absolutely correct? 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:47.760 For me? 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.560 Serial killer move that person is looking how to poison 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.679 you or get you as drunk as for you. You 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.680 want that information about how to level that drunkness out. 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:02.119 Okay, here's my because you know, people get there's like 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.640 so people get like super crazy about bar rules about 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.120 like how if you don't like, don't approach a bar 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.520 unless you know exactly what you want, like you know 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:14.199 all this stuff. Fuck you, Like we're all just you 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.240 know how much alcohol is there is right now in 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:21.040 the world. Okay, I will admit something is that I 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.399 do not know shit about alcohol. 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.040 Yeah, I mean either because we didn't. That wasn't the 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:28.680 goal when we were coming up. 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.400 No, no, there are no None of my friends were 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:38.360 curatorial about drinking whatsoever. Nope, everybody was just like, give 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:42.920 me a handle of mister Boston's, we will figure out 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.080 a hundred different ways to drink it, you know, like 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.760 there was no I mean, first of all, there weren't 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.520 even a ton of liquor brands. I think it's kind 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.480 of my thing is that people like you're out and 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.760 you're like, oh, let's get you a Tito's and soda, 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.080 and I'm like, and I know what Tito says. Okay, 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.880 But like back before I knew what Tito's, like Tito's 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:05.399 and soda. I'm like, what the fuck is it? 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.360 Tito's right, we didn't order by the brand. 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:13.840 Yeah, I'm like is that tequila? Is that whatever? Yeah? 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:15.520 And I'm just like, I don't know these So I 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:20.119 don't know the brands. Number one for sure, I'm actually 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.400 unclear about what is even what like the difference between 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:27.640 bourbon and whiskey and cognognac. How do you I don't 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:28.800 even know how to say cognac. 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:29.680 How do you saying. 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.440 Konnac connac konyak? 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:37.320 Fuck? I don't even know how to say that. So 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.960 that's to that point. So the other night I went 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.680 to the Hawks game. Oh, season opener of the Hawks. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:48.600 No big deal, we won, okay, my boys, my boys 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.200 or my boys. So we go to the Hawks game. 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.400 I'm hanging out with you know, we're in this big 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.600 group and I'm hanging out with one of my friends's 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:57.919 brothers who was in town or whatever. And we go 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.080 to the bar and this woman who who's the bartender, 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.040 was like, do you want to put a couple of 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.600 shots in this lemonade? It's like frozen lemonade. And I 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.920 was like, do people do that? And She's just like yeah, 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.480 and uh he goes. My friend's brother goes, why do 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.520 you pour some Hennessy in there? And I was like, 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.960 I certainly heard of Hennessy because I like rap music, 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.760 but do I even know what Hennessy actually is? So 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:29.639 I turned, I turned to you know, the side, and 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.920 googled Hennessy because I was like, I'm even not clear 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:33.719 what hennessy is. 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.680 Ah, I am surprised I didn't get you kicked out 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:37.280 of Atlanta. 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.399 Well, I'm like, that is to your point. So then 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.040 my other friend walks up and she sees my open 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.480 browser on my phone with like Hennesite, and she goes, 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:51.000 did you just google Hennessy at the bar? And I 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:55.879 was like, yes, I did, because I don't know what 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:57.119 the fuck Hennessy actually is. 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.080 So there you go. I'm gonna admit that to everybody. 0:23:59.080 --> 0:23:59.840 I don't know what it is. 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:09.440 We're so overwhelmed. Koyak coniac kyak Crown Royal, Hennessy, fucking cognacs. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.639 Okay, you know how many times had drank Crown in 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:13.240 high school? 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:14.199 I didn't even know what it was. 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:16.280 This is the thing. 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:21.360 Your commitment to ordering a drink depends on when you 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.720 were what era you were born in, We did not 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:28.199 have brands. Yeah, when we started drinking, it was the drink, 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.840 like I want a tequila and soda, I want this, 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.000 I want and it was basic shit. 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.520 When fucking cocktail. 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.879 Came out, we were young, we were in our you know, 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.439 ten eleven years old, but yeah, we were floored that 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.800 somebody could flip that cup around and not just pour 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:47.320 it directly into the fucking glass. Like, we came up 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.160 in a way that was not brand related. So now 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.199 when people are like I want cosamigos, and I'm like, 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:57.880 why do you want George Clooney specifically to give you tequila? 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.720 Because I know that all tequi it comes from the 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:05.400 same fucking area of Mexico. It's only one plant, yeah 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.439 and every but so they just put their name on 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.040 it and now it's a different liquor to you, Like 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.840 what is happening? Yeah, I'm with you there, and there's 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.280 so many fucking celebrity brands and. 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.520 Like, yeah, I can't do it. 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.600 I want I don't want to put lemonade in a 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.000 drink and it's this. I'm the same way with coffee 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:22.879 where I'm like get it to me straight, like do 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.359 not You don't have to fancy it up if my 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.000 goal is to get fucking rocked. 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:32.760 Yeah, well, I'm like, and I I appreciate people who 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:38.200 are very knowledgeable about it. Yeah, Like I'm like, hey, 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.960 you know, if you're into whiskey and you got like 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.520 crazy opinions on it, that's fascinating to me. 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.200 Tell me more about passion or whatever. 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.560 But like, I'm also trying to be a real person 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.040 at Like, I'm like, I don't know. I simply do 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.560 not know. You don't mess call. That's not a thing 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.040 that existed when we were in high school. 0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:00.360 Like, I had never heard of mess call. Into moved 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:01.480 to LA and I. 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:03.439 Was basically like, oh, I guess people fucking with mescal 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:05.639 is kind of like a tequila I suppose, but I 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.639 never heard of that shit until. I Mean, that's the 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.760 thing is that, like the it's gotten so complex that 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.679 my you know, high school brain has to like catch up. 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.000 So that's why I'm googling head to see at the fucking. 0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.919 Barn self care, I'm with you. 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.560 Thank you, Okay, just try to educate myself. Do not 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:29.240 embarrass me exactly. Okay, So you got one right, ting 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:34.280 ting ting all right? There were more serial killer is 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:42.040 self care? Not paying people for working your events? 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:45.680 That is a serial killer move. 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.960 Hell yeah it is, and you know it is, and 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:49.880 you know who you are. 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.120 Serial killers, murderers. 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.439 No hesitation, you're a serial killer. Someone's doing anything for 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:56.480 you pay them. 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:57.080 Yo. 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:57.920 It's like. 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.399 We got a problem. There are so many people who 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.280 are out here being like, hey, will you DJ my 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.639 work party? Will you you know, come and host a 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.639 thing for my job in front of people? This is 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:14.240 public facing shit. You always us to shit, and you're 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.160 not paying people to do that in any kind of way. 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.520 Like no, you don't even give me one hundred dollars 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.600 gift card to Applebee's nothing. 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.600 No, that is no longer the move we put a 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.920 I say we, but I think that's actually a gen 0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:34.120 z possibly millennial move where they're like, we're not doing 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:38.879 unpaid internships anymore. Like high five to them for being like, 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.560 uh no, my time is valuable, you got to pay me. 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.080 They shifted the tide. 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.359 So if you are still out here not paying people 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.560 to work your event, not only are you revealing how 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.560 old you are in your heart, but you have no 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.760 there's no conscience, Like there has to be something that 0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.600 pay doesn't always have to be financial. It should be 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.960 it should be financial, but like you said, you have 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:05.840 to offer something. 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:10.240 Yeah, And I will make this distinction as well, because 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.359 it's like they're also okay, I think it's deplorable that 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:17.359 if you're gonna go work for somebody and you're doing 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:21.520 like physical labor, right, if you're like cleaning dishes, if 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.439 you're organizing, if you're doing stuff you that is a 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.600 payd job period like that is Yeah, if you're not 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.760 paying people to do that, then you're an absolute monster. 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:33.480 But then there's this type of job where it's like, oh, 0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:37.240 it's forward facing like that. It's like something where they can, 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.240 you know, be in front of people, and. 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.800 Maybe that's the reward. Like the reward is me standing. 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.360 In front of people and like talking about whatever, like 0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.800 a movie or you know, some kind of concept or 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.920 like a DJ thing or something like that, playing albums. 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:56.360 I'm like, why is that not a job to you? 0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:00.200 Why why do you think that, especially somebody at my 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.120 age and my level of the game or whatever. I'm like, right, 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.640 you think it's easy for me to like constantly just 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.160 go in public and talk and like I gotta you know, 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.640 it's like, as much as I am kind of okay 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.360 with being a public speaker, but it's like it still 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.040 takes a lot for me to prepare, for me to 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.480 figure out what my nipple color is so I can 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.240 wear the corresponding lipstick, so I could like do my hair, 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.120 take off my car hard, put on a fucking church dress, 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.200 like whatever. It is, Like that is part of it. 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.400 That's part of the labor of this thing. 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.680 And I find that. 0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.360 People really don't pay for that shit around here, especially 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.320 here in Atlanta. They're not really doing in LA, but 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.360 they were doing like they don't pay for that here, 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.120 and I'm just kind of like, you know what, Like 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:48.040 that's work. 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:53.600 So I will say simply as simply as possible. My 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:58.840 life and career changed when I started saying no to 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:00.719 things that people wanted me to do for free. 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.240 Yeah, just say no. 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.959 I'm not even going to get into it about like 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.840 you're not paying me, why don't you pay? Nope, I 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.800 ain't doing it. If you want me, my time is 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.000 worth something. If you want to ask, oh, would you 0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:14.840 consider doing it if we pay, Yeah, then we can have. 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:16.040 A negotiation, we can talk. 0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.280 Yeah, But if you just flat out come at me 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:19.760 with do this thing for free? 0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:20.440 Nope? 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.239 Right, And if you're a for profit business, like I mean, 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.240 if you're a nonprofit, you know, if it's a charity thing, 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.160 of course, what the fuck course do that all day 0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:29.560 every day. 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.120 But if they're very heavy. 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.800 Money for your business and you're not paying people for things, man, 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:34.840 come on, like. 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:36.680 Oh, they just have me all the time when I 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.440 was a freelance writer, like, oh, you can do this 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.160 for the exposure, And I'm like you, mam, are l 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.200 magazine like someone getting paid. 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.320 Yeah, I ain't doing nothing for the exposure. 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.840 Yeah. Well, I just had to throw that in there. 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.040 I knew you would agree with me, so you got 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.240 that one right too. Oh my god. 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:59.760 I will never charge to do an event that involves charity, children, libraries, 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.920 things like that. But the rest of all, I better 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.280 come with something. Even if I just donate the money, 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:05.320 you better come with something. 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:10.200 I mean, a shrink wrapped gift basket goes a long way. 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:14.600 I'll just throw that out there. Okay, So two for two. 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:22.280 Third or self care question scheduling a meeting while you're 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.120 currently in a meeting. 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.680 That's a fucking serial killer all around, Ding ding ding ding. 0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:33.640 That is absolutely right. Oh my god, gotta tell you. 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.280 One of my biggest pet peeves in the world is 0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.240 being in a meeting with somebody and then there's. 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.680 All of a sudden, it's like ping ping pong. 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.880 And then you're like, what you just scheduled another meeting 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.360 with me as you're talking to me right now. 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.440 No, that is that is pure psychosis. That is that 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.960 is someone who's had too much of the sauce, the 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:55.000 corporate sauce. Because my real party line is there are 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:55.880 too many meetings. 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.000 Absolutely, one hundred percent there are. 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.720 I shouldn't be meeting with people more than depending on 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.160 the job, but more than once a week. 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:11.600 I have to agree with you. I feel like there 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:15.800 we're in an epidemic of too many meetings. And I 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:22.200 don't know if it's because there's this perceived like disconnection 0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:27.160 feeling from COVID that is kind of still happening where 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.800 people are like many people are working from home. Still, 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.000 there's people spread out around the world. We got to 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.160 over compensate for it by having meeting after meeting after meeting, 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.920 because otherwise we'll just drift away into you know, unproductiveness. 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.959 And I'm like, nah, bitch, the fucking meeting sometimes is 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:49.400 the problem? Like nothing is getting done A lot of times, Yes, 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:54.640 it's just talking to talk, And I'm like, there's like 0:32:55.480 --> 0:33:00.200 just because we're not meeting every day about something does 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.240 not mean that people aren't working. And I just feel 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.480 like sometimes the meeting is just the pump and circumstance 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.800 that needs to get kicked out the door. 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.479 Well, there's also there seems to me to be a 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.520 new layer of the corporate structure. And I don't know 0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.680 when it happened, when it came in. I've seen it 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.760 become more prevalent over the last like five years, I'll say, 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:25.680 but there's a new level where on this level, the 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:30.760 person's job is to justify having their job. Yeah, so 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:35.480 they are setting meetings all the time so that it 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.360 looks like they're doing their job or that is the 0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.960 job or whatever. There just seems to be this new 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.160 layer of like my job is to prove that I'm 0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:43.840 doing my job. 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.200 I don't need it. I think what makes me. 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.239 Probably a great boss, because I have been told by 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.160 some writers and I'm like the best boss they've had, 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.360 or like it's the best room they've been in, is 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.680 because I hire the best people possible, and then I 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.000 let them do their fucking job. Yes, I'm available to 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.880 you for questions, failable to check in. I will let 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.040 you do your fucking job. We will have a meeting 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.280 if there is something that I need ten people to 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:10.239 know at once. Otherwise it's an email like what are 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.480 we doing? Yeah, hire the best people, let them do 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:13.200 their fucking job. 0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.160 Yeah. I agree. That's the best kind of boss to 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.400 have is somebody who kind of just leaves you alone. 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:24.080 I I haven't been a boss very rarely in my life. 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.319 Like I think I was a boss when I was 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:27.160 in my twenties. 0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.400 Actually, like I think my one of my first like 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.880 jobs out of undergrad I worked at a marketing research 0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.120 firm and I was technically like a supervisor or like 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:38.640 a keyholder or something like that. 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.920 But I never want to be in one's boss. 0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.480 I don't want to tell you what to do. I 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.720 don't want to be responsible for your life. I don't 0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:51.080 want you to clock, you know, hours with me. I 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.880 don't want to give you goals, none of that. I 0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.520 just want us to all be like free floating, you know, 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.080 we can all It's like a a socialist dream of 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.680 everybody's in charge. 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.440 And we just kind of figure things out, you know, 0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:08.120 in that way. 0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.800 I know it's a dream, but I'm just saying I 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:12.200 don't want I don't want a boss, and I don't 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:16.040 want to be anybody's boss because of this, because of 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:20.160 the weird kind of like communication styles, like trying to 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.560 figure out like what best way of you know, being 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.279 in touches, and some people do it too little, and 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.719 then some people do it too much, you know, so 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.440 it's like finding a balance is probably the key. But 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.160 it's like man meetings. 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.160 Also, I gotta say, I love being a boss. 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.359 And if you are a boss and you're like experiencing 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.200 some of this and you want to stop having all 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.120 these meetings and feeling like this, I'll see. I will 0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.960 also just offer this unsolicited advice. Ask people how they 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.040 like to communicate before you when you're interviewing them, how 0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.719 do you like to communicate you if we have a 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:58.640 pressing need, like you know, would you text me, would 0:35:58.680 --> 0:35:59.480 you call me? 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:00.520 Would you say a meeting? 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.880 You know, ask them how they like to communicate, make 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.040 a note of it, and then do that. 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:09.880 Like that's truly all it takes. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.160 If I tell you, like, look, I just need you 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:13.840 to be available that if I have a question, I 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:15.480 can get it answered within three hours. 0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:16.080 Done. 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.040 Yeah, well, and that's it. Like it's so hard too, 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:21.960 as you know, like I said, I just said I 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.520 didn't want to be a boss, but it is hard 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.160 to know because there's certain people that really really need 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:30.000 a lot of feedback and really need to be handheld 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.360 and they want that and so and sometimes those people 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.840 will pretend to not need that and then you figure 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.880 it out much later or advice ors. You know, I 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.600 get that it's hard to figure it out, but but yeah, 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.080 I think that's a good plan, is to just sort 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.120 of check in with people. And I would say, check 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.120 in with people like not just in the interview, but 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.600 after they've been hired, and give them some time to 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.040 settle in and be like, all right, so what's your 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:53.719 vibe now? You want to hear from me? 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.320 You don't you don't want me to use your personal 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.440 phone number, duly noted. 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.840 You don't to ever use your phone at all. You 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.520 let me just just email. That's fine, that's fine. 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.359 All this is to say, you got another one, right, 0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:11.160 Yes I did. 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:13.280 And you know that that's serial killer. 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:19.919 Move Okay. Question four, We're almost done. Question four Serial 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:27.960 Killer self care, being cringe self care absolutely correct. 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.600 Ah, do not give a fuck about being cringe. 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.640 Cringe doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. I mean, cringes is 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:37.600 only our friend. 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:42.080 Sarah Brown's former diary reading series that she wrote a 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.640 fantastic book about in two different countries. That's what cringe 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:47.400 is to me, Sarah Brown, Cringe. 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:47.920 Look it up. 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:53.120 Otherwise it does not exist. I'm not going to I'm 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.960 not going to absorb this cultural notion that I should 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:58.600 be upset about everything I do. 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:03.399 Fuck off, and then at a certain age you are 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.640 just cringe and you gotta let it go. Yeah, like period, 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:08.640 point blank. No. 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.120 That's the thing is that like. 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:12.200 You. 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:17.719 To me, I refuse to be like you can tell 0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:20.080 me that I'm cringe, and I'm talking to you kids, 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.080 right because you're you're the people that I'm mostly addressing 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:27.800 in this Calling me cringe you know about some shit, fine, 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:31.200 but I reject it. I do not listen to it. 0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.000 I do not give a shit. It doesn't exist. Like 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:35.319 I am who I am. 0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.600 Cringe to me is just somebody saying I'm uncomfortable with 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.319 how little you give a shit about this. Yeah, and 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.680 you're never going to make me give a shit about 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.959 something I fundamentally don't give a shit about. 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:50.359 And that could be the way I look, the way 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:50.920 I talk. 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:57.200 If I'm not harming someone actively fuck off, cringe doesn't exist. 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.640 Yeah, I mean, like it's it's just another word for 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:02.640 being uncool. 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:03.960 Yeah, I'm like. 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:09.160 I at a certain age that literally never enters my mind, 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:13.080 Like it never enters my mind to be to be cool, 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.319 to walk out of the house and be cool. You 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:15.799 know so. 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:17.520 Well. 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.279 No, I haven't thought about it since I was a 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:20.120 fucking teenager. 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.439 Yeah, I'm glad you got that right your fourth floor. 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.760 Are you ready for the last one? 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:28.360 Potentially the hardest? 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.760 Oh god, this is so tense because I've been doing 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:31.239 so well. 0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.879 Okay, the final question for serial killer or self care 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:38.839 ending this podcast? 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:45.160 God, damn you. I think self care. 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:52.040 Okay, I'll give you that to you both. That's a 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:52.640 true question. 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.759 It's both. 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:02.200 I thought you might say serial killer, but I know 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.040 it's self care. We just talked about it when we 0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.080 told people we were ending the podcast, like it's self care. 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.440 I would have rioted if you said serial killer. I 0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.520 know you're trying to throw me. It's self care. I'm 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:14.240 five or five. 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.760 No, going out like that absolutely correct? 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.040 Okay, ain't going out like that? 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.680 Of course, of course you've got a perfect score. 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.479 I'm just saying if you would have said serial killer, 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.200 I would have said it was correct to It's just 0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.040 you know, and I mean this, I mean, obviously this 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.359 is a joke, but I mean this is the best way. 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:37.160 I mean it is like both sad and happy. I mean, oh, 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.920 it really is. I mean there's gonna be stuff like 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.879 this that we're not gonna do anymore, which is which 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.320 I'm gonna miss, and ending it feels like a serial 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.400 killer move. But then it's also self care to end it. Yeah, 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.319 like we're happy, we're in a good place about it. 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:56.239 So true, And I'm laughing because it's like, oh wait, 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.799 that's every decision I make in my life where everyone's like, 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.640 why are you stopping? I stopped doing feminist Ryan Gossling. 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.839 They're like, why not keep this going for forty five years? 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:05.520 And I'm like, oh no, I'm done with it. Serial 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.520 killer moved to just walk away from something successful that 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:09.280 makes you happy. 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.520 No, there are no water signs on this podcast, not 0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.719 a one. So we're not getting sentimental about shit. Once 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:21.760 it's done. It's done. We're like the bye, like please, 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.680 even Casey's a cap record, he couldn't care less cut ties, 0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:27.239 no problem, move on. 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:28.919 Well. 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:34.759 Also, it's kind of fucked up in a way because. 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.400 We're not going anywhere. 0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:40.120 I'm not gonna be missing out anything, but our listeners 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.920 will be, which I'm sad for them. But I feel like, oh, 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.120 nothing's gonna change because we will still be able to 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.759 talk to each other and talk to Casey and have 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.960 our thing. So that is a serial killer move to 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.879 be like, yeah, nothing's gonna change, and then your whole 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.480 audience is like, yeah, everything is changing for us. You're 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.880 fucking psychos. You're not gonna be here for us anymore, 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:02.760 these cringe bitches. No, I gotta learn how to walk away. 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.200 It is the most valuable lesson in your life. Learn 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:08.200 how and when to walk away from things. 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.680 Yes, we know how. 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.960 To fold them for sure, or we know when to 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.040 fold them. I should say, Okay, so you've got a 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:22.040 perfect score. Yeah, do you even handle that curveball I 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.840 threw at the end very nicely? 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.399 So you really tried it? But I ain't going out 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:26.759 like that. 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:32.920 No, No, you're absolutely not. Should we start this podcast? 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:34.080 Or what are we doing whatever? 0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:35.799 I mean, we're like an hour in so why not 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:37.279 when I talk about a movie or two? 0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:50.480 Okay, so we got a theme stressful. This is stressful. 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.200 But I was gonna ask if you would tell people 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:54.719 what it is. 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.120 I would love to tell people what it is, because 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:01.520 our theme this week is eat the Rich. We're talking 0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.080 about modern class warfare. 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:08.640 Yeah, two thousand's style. Would you say, wait, actually it's more. 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.200 Like twenty well yeah, more like twenty twenties. 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:12.800 Twenty twenties style. 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.720 Mine came out in twenty nineteen, but it's on the CUSP. 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.759 But yeah, like last five years, last, you know, six 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.200 years of Beat the Rich mentality. 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.920 Well, and we have been talking about wanting to do 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:29.560 your movie for a while. Yes, and I haven't seen 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.400 it since it came out, and glad I saw it again. 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.960 Obviously it's a great, great film. 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.120 Oh, masterpiece. 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.200 Yeah, this is an interesting like I was actually kind 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.719 of trying to figure this out a little bit when 0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.799 we were doing research for this week, because I'm like, 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:52.880 these are two movies that came out relatively close together, 0:43:54.200 --> 0:44:01.239 kind of like post Obama, maybe pre pandemic or at 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:07.520 least you know, at the heels of the pandemic, and 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.640 they're kind of addressing the same thing. 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.960 Yes, there's so many parallels now that I've watched I've 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.480 watched each of them obviously separately before now that I've 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:23.640 watched them together, there are some very interesting parallels in 0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.839 our films, which we'll get into when we talk about them. 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:31.480 But it's it's also nice. I think it's a nice 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:36.160 shift culturally that there are now so many ways to 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.040 look at and confirm that we should be eating the 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:44.400 rich and engaging and paying attention to modern class warfare 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.160 at least. And I say this as a person who 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.840 in a recent episode commented on how my lifestyle is 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.839 possible because I'm making more money. I'm not rich, I'm 0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.000 not I'm not the people we're talking about. I'm just 0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.920 I've got a good job. But what I and personally, 0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.720 and this is maybe a bridge too far in validating myself, 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.080 but I don't need that much. So when I make 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:07.680 a certain amount of money, I give the rest away. 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.759 Drives my business manager crazy, But I don't need that much. 0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:11.479 I just give it away. 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:18.360 Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think that there's generational wealth 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.560 that's happening when some of the characters in these movies 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:27.360 this week, which gotta say not my experience, I got 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:28.160 none of that. 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.120 And I don't think generational wealth should exist. 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.479 I think spend your fucking money, let your kids spend 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:34.000 for themselves. 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:34.680 What are you doing? 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:39.280 Yeah, generational wealth does not create instantly create better people 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.680 as far as I'm concerned. It creates hoarders and people 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.600 who then become, you know, generations later, the kind of 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:48.160 people that we live with now, who think because their 0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:53.239 money isn't earned, that it's better and that they deserve more, 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.200 or that there's their lives are somehow more valuable. 0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.759 Yeah. Well, and yeah, and I just you know, I 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.920 think it's really interesting because it really does feel like 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.200 these two movies this week are kind of united by 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:10.759 this idea of everybody in the world is fighting each 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:16.200 other at the feet of extremely wealthy people, right, And 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:17.560 why are we doing that? 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.319 Why aren't we in fighting them? 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:20.759 Yeah? 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:21.719 And why. 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:26.960 Have has the tone shifted? I was reading this one 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.920 article about my movie in reference to like a bunch 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.600 of like there's like a lot you know. I think 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.200 the obvious, you know, parallel to my film would be 0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.799 something like White Lotus, where there's this kind of like 0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:44.239 Recent and Glass Onion and all these movies about like 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.960 rich people on yachts and things. Yeah, there's this kind 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:52.160 of like which is so true, like resort, Like how 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:57.960 there's this double message happening where it's like, yes, we 0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:03.279 are trying to deconstruct and criticize this wealthy you know, 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:08.000 elite class and their bullshit and there you know, the 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.160 ways of which they navigate the world and make everybody 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:10.680 feel like shit. 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:14.000 But we're also like fascinated by their world. 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.360 That's what locks me up is like it's aspirational to people. 0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:22.360 Yeah, and about how can these things exist at the 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:29.000 same time. Is it pleasure to watch people drinking expensive 0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:35.440 champagne on you know, super yachts, uh, saying bullshit while 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.560 like the people below the deck are like serving them 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.160 while also criticizing it, Like is there like a double 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.560 thing about it? And I'm like, yeah, I don't know, 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:48.759 because I texted you when I I hadn't watched my 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.080 movie since it came out, which wasn't that long ago. 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:53.800 Halfway through it, I had to fucking stop the movie 0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.879 and I text you and I said, I'm too, I'm 0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:58.759 about to have a panic attack. I'm so mad at 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.600 rich people right now that I have try the movie off, and. 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.919 I want to know when we get to your movie, 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.040 I want to know exactly what scene that was or 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:09.000 what moment that was. But I completely agree that I 0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:13.680 find it genuinely physically sickening to watch a gross display 0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.600 of wealth. It is physically sickening to me that people 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:23.319 feel comfortable, ye like having those resources and using them 0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.760 to become worse, like more terrible people. 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.000 And yeah, it makes me. 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.880 It makes me fucking sick to see the excess and 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.120 the wiste and the just the focus on things that 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.520 do not fucking matter, like the clothes and the jewelry 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:40.080 and the fucking things. 0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.200 Yeah, it just makes me fucking ill. 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:51.000 But yeah, and like, what is the psychological moment where 0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:56.000 people are like this is like like ooh, like I 0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:00.680 love watching Jennifer Coolidge be a fucking rich bitch in 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:05.120 a resort, but I also hate rich people and wish that, 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:10.200 you know, our current form of capitalism would disappear. Like 0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.480 I guess I just don't understand what the worship and 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:14.880 the hatred is happening at the same time, because it 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.120 feels like I can't do that. I have to just 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.040 hate them, and so I don't know. I think that 0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.040 that's that really gave me a lot of food for 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.799 this week. And then these two movies of course, same thing. 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.719 It's like, you know your film in particular, I will 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.000 not shut up about snow Peak. We're gonna get to 0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:35.719 it now. But I'm like, these motherfuckers are iced out 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.479 in snow Peak camping gear, and that's all I gotta 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:39.920 say about that. 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:47.959 The water in their refrigerator are several bottles of vas. 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:50.840 It's that kind of shit, Like I get glass bottles. 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.760 I don't even know if they're plastic, they might be glass. 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.560 I've never even touched one of those bottles. They look 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:58.120 so rich. They's not water for me. This is not 0:49:58.239 --> 0:49:59.520 water for my dumbass. 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.759 Only the first time I ever drank one of those 0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.840 boss bottles was what I went to. I went to 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.120 a rap show like a long time ago. It was 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:12.880 basically like Ti Twista and the guy that's saying the 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.200 hook on I like the way you move by Big Boy, 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.080 and it was like it cost like fifty dollars to 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:20.799 get into the club, and then they were serving that 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.680 water and I was like, what's this water? Why is 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:28.799 it so chic and slim, and I immediately was like, oh, 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:30.880 it's because this it costs fifty dollars to get in here. 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.960 That's why they're so very stupid water and now it's 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.719 just everywhere, but like, especially in You're a movie. 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:37.800 Makes me sick. 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.560 So I was reading I like to read on the 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.720 on the Strategist that like things I can't live without, 0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:48.400 celebrity shopping kind of thing, just because it's interesting to 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.759 me to see what people buy, right, And I think 0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.720 it was on one of those where I saw someone 0:50:55.440 --> 0:51:00.200 who couldn't live without a four hundred dollars note book 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.000 that they wrote in with a two hundred dollars pen. 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.880 Hell no, And I'm like, this is where I lose 0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.560 the plot completely and become apoplectic, like what are you 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.240 fucking you can live without that shit? You can get 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:17.120 a mead notebook for a dollar if you had to, 0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:21.160 and a fucking ten cent bigpen. 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.000 Yeah, like you might be. 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:25.440 And I understand that the whole concept of that is 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.120 basically to be like these are the things I like 0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.080 the most, which, okay, fine, I get it. I also 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:33.440 have a favorite pen, but a four hundred dollars notebook 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:34.880 You're going to act like that's normal. 0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:36.319 Yeah, no, no, no. 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.759 The only time and I like reading it too. 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:43.799 The only times where I actually like, like am like 0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:48.439 yes are when the celebrity reveals like it's like when 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.360 they are using like a very simple thing that exists 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.280 at like the drug store. It's like Charlie XCX uses 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.799 like an old man foot powder and it's just like 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.480 four dollars at Walgreens. Like That's the only time where 0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:05.319 I'm like this, this should exist, like I care about 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:09.120 a celebrity's products is when they're just like real simple, 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:11.399 boring show when they do. Yeah, when you do get 0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:15.120 the one where it's like I only you know, eat 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:19.200 like strawberries that were you know, picked from the fucking 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.840 base of the Himalayas or whatever the fuck, you're. 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.720 Like, you've lost the plot. 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:29.120 Yeah, man, and now everyone knows you have because you 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.239 just set it in an interview. 0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:35.040 And that and truly, truly like Debbie Masars is the 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:36.600 best one if you ask me, if you go look 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:38.680 up Debbie Mazar when I can't live without or I 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:40.560 think they even did one that's like one hundred products. 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.200 I love because she leaves in Italy, so she's like 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:46.120 got a real mix of high low. Yes, but she's 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.319 also like a down home New York girl, so she's 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:52.040 got like a real mix of high low. But it's 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:53.880 for me. It's also a way to gauge, like how 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.239 out of touch a celebrity is or how. 0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.520 Much money they make, because I'm like, oh, you can't live. 0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.839 Without something that costs four hundred dollars that will be 0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:06.040 done in three weeks, You'll be done using it. You're 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.080 you're you make so much money that you literally have 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:11.160 are not in touch with reality anymore? 0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:16.319 Yeah, oh yeah, it's it's shocking. But oh my god, 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:20.040 I cannot wait to talk about your movie. Like, all right, 0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:23.120 it's gonna be a good, stressful week, but I'm ready. 0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:30.400 Let's get it a good and stressful week. 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:36.400 My film was released in twenty nineteen. It was directed 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:41.120 and written by Bong June Hoe. Han Jin Moon also 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.760 did the screenplay with Bang June Hoe. And my movie 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:49.400 is called Parasite. 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.880 Little Renois. 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:56.680 Now I fucking love this movie. 0:53:56.920 --> 0:54:01.200 I'm gonna give you the one sentsin synopsis, a family 0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:06.239 down on their luck infiltrates a rich family one by one. 0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:10.040 Nailed it, of course, So that is just the premise, 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.840 and I'm only going to walk you through about half 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:18.040 of this film because if you have not seen this 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:21.560 movie before, I want you to watch it at some 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:24.840 point and if I explain to you what has happened 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.040 what happens in this film, it will not be the 0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:32.080 experience that I had when I first watched the movie. 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.399 So I'm just gonna say that. I know people would 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:36.960 love for us to spoil it, but guess what, we 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:38.840 got two episodes left and we're still not doing it. 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:40.720 Get over it, get over it. 0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:44.200 Got made it four years, not spoiling ship for you 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:49.520 most of the time, and happening now either. So what 0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:51.600 I love about this movie and I do think it's 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.799 a fucking masterpiece and it blew me away. And it's 0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:58.600 such a rich and layered and unique story that is 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:04.360 simultaneously so funny and so terrifying. So the film itself, 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:10.359 taking these shifts between humor and like abject terror, is 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:13.640 just a master stroke. Bang June Hoe is an incredible 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.600 director in that way he did you know Memories of 0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:18.440 Murder and Oak John He's He's made a lot of 0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:25.680 unbelievable films. This particular film won so many awards, like 0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:30.440 so many awards. It won the a bunch of Academy 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:33.560 Awards for Best Picture and Best Directing. In twenty twenty, 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:37.120 it won the fucking Palm d'Or at Can. It won 0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.080 the Golden Globe like anything it could win. 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:41.520 It won that year. 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:46.520 And Bong Juneo is also delightful to watch accepting an 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.920 award if you haven't seen any of his acceptance speeches. 0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:52.759 But I think this movie really spoke to people in 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:56.960 a big way. And again I think it's the way 0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.760 that that Bang Juno was able to direct and present 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.839 it that helped with that. But the story itself is 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.799 it's so well written, so I just love it. And 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:10.400 it's really the story of two families. So we first 0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:14.600 have the Kim family. Chun Suk who's the mom, Kai 0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:18.279 Tech is the dad, Ki Wu is the son, and 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:20.919 Ki Jung is the daughter. And forgive me if I'm 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:24.920 mispronouncing those because it could be Kei Jung. But and 0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:26.880 I was listening closely in the movie and I listened 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:29.520 in some interviews, and I think it's Kei Jung. So 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:32.120 that's the family that we're starting with, who is completely 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.359 down on their luck, like poor, poor, poor, poor, poor 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:39.640 sub level poor, and it's really demonstrated in the film 0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.759 how poor they are by looking at their surroundings. So 0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:46.640 they live in a they call it a semi basement apartment, 0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:51.000 so it's kind of half underground half above ground. Let 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:54.120 me put it this way. Their toilet is the is 0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:57.080 higher than their living space. Their toilet is kind of 0:56:57.080 --> 0:57:01.480 on a pedestal that goes above where they sleep and. 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:02.359 Eat and live. 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:06.040 Yeah, so that metaphorically and visually is just a way 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:10.000 to kind of construct how how low they are societally. 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:12.520 And then you have the Park family, and the Park 0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:16.800 family is dong eke yon Ko. Dong Ek is the dad, 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:21.640 Yanko is the mom, Da Song is their youngest child 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:26.040 who's a boy, and Dahi who's their daughter, teenage daughter. 0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:30.400 They also have three dogs, Zuni, Berry, and Fufu, all 0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:34.280 these tiny little dogs running around, so cute. And the 0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:38.200 first scene in the movie is the Kim family in 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.760 their apartment which is kind of drab, and they can't 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.120 get Wi Fi because they've been surfing Wi Fi from 0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.000 a neighbor and the neighbor put a password on it. 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.360 So just again conceptually, to live in a world in 0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:52.960 twenty nineteen, twenty twenty where Wi Fi is not available 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:56.480 to you, or that digital divide is so stark that 0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:59.280 you cannot do anything without the Internet, to the point 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.280 where the the mom chunk suk has been waiting for 0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:06.120 information on WhatsApp about a job that she applied for 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.919 that now she can't access because they don't have Wi Fi. 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:13.520 And again it's a small apartment. Drunks come and piss 0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:14.600 right in front of their window. 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:18.640 You learn it. They're peeling mold off of old bread. 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:22.320 They're surrounded by stink bugs again, and it's for people 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:26.880 living here. So they're waiting to hear from the pizza 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.120 pizza generation business because the whole family is going to 0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.600 make pizza boxes for money. And then the fumigation truck 0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:38.680 comes by and dad decides to leave the windows open 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:42.280 so that their apartment can also get fumigated. I mean 0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:45.720 the pizza boxes are also getting fumigated now. But that 0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:47.840 is where they are in life, where they're like anything 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.560 that we can get for free that we don't have 0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:54.240 to spend money on we will take because no one 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.040 is working, we're all down on our luck. The kids 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.640 can't afford to go to college. And again these are 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:01.680 incredibly smart people. As we watch the film, that becomes 0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:05.280 more and more prevalent that everyone is so smart and 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.280 they're pushed to a place where they have to use 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:14.400 their intelligence in devious ways because of where society has 0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:18.320 placed them. Yes, so they don't do a good job 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:20.440 on the boxes. And there's this one scene where like 0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:22.640 the whole family kind of and it's right at the 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:26.480 beginning of the film, so that's a very interesting tone 0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:29.480 because the pizza women comes to collect the boxes and 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.640 she's like half, like a quarter of these are not folded. Well, 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:35.600 I'm going to dock your pay ten percent. But then 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:39.000 the whole family kind of slowly starts to surround her 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:42.640 so that Kiwu can ask for a job. He's like, 0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:43.920 you know, I know that the reason you're in this 0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.880 position is because your box guy didn't show up, So 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.160 why don't you just hire me? And then his sister 0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.040 kind of comes in and is like, yeah, you should 0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:52.880 hire him, and then the mom kind of comes in, 0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:55.280 and that is the tone of the whole movie. How 0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:58.760 one by one this family is going to surround someone 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:02.120 of means and get everything they can from them and 1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:05.360 try to influence them so that again a small scene 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:08.440 that to me is masterful and as a way of 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:12.960 explaining what this family is willing to do to make money. 1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:16.919 So then the movie really kicks off when a friend 1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.960 of Kiwu's comes by. His name is Min and he's 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:22.920 got this rock, it's called a scholar's rock that he's 1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:28.080 got for Kiwu's dad, Kai Tech, and it's supposed to 1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:29.960 be like, you know, this great prestigious thing that he's 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.440 presenting and his grandfather gave to him. And he's obviously 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:34.760 been a friend of the family for a while, and 1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:37.600 Kiwu is really upset that he came into the house 1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:41.160 because he's embarrassed by where he lives. But also Men, 1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:43.880 even though they're friends and of the same age, Men 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:47.320 is doing much better clearly, so they go out for drinks. 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:51.520 Men is in college, he's about to study abroad, and 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:53.760 he tells and Kiwu tells him, like, you know, my 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:56.840 whole family's out of work, were struggling, And Men suggests 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.960 that Kiwu take over for him as a tutor for 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:02.240 a rich kid while he's studying abroad. 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:05.360 So the reasoning for this is a little fucked. 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:07.960 He's like, I want it to be you because I 1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:11.040 actually am in love with this teenage girl who's a 1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:14.680 sophomore in high school. But I'm gonna wait until she 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.800 goes to university to ask her out. And I don't 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:21.720 want any of these like frat boy assholes like hitting 1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:24.000 on her while I'm gone, and I know that you 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:28.040 ki Wu would never pose a threat. Essentially, yeah, he. 1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:30.080 Negged him pretty good, I have to say. 1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:32.200 Right, he nagged him into a job. 1:01:32.320 --> 1:01:34.600 So you're like, oh, this is a weird, like you're 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:38.640 helping him, but also huh. So Keiwu is like, all right, 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:41.320 but I'm not a college student. He's like, I'll have 1:01:41.320 --> 1:01:44.080 to pretend to be a college student, and men, to 1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:46.240 his credit as a friend, is like, well, you're smart enough, 1:01:46.280 --> 1:01:48.960 you just don't have the piece of paper. And he 1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:52.560 does say that eventually to his parents after his sister 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:56.320 Kijun doctor's up a fake degree. He's like, well, I'm 1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:58.480 gonna go to this university next year. I just printed 1:01:58.480 --> 1:02:03.280 the degree early, which is like a stunning rationalization. So 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:08.200 then you watch him literally climb up from their apartment 1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:11.000 to the house. Because one thing I also love about 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:14.360 this film is you are constantly going to be questioning 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:19.640 who is the parasite, right and a parasitic relationship in 1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:23.320 general is one where you know, a parasite is viewed negative. 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:24.160 It's a negative thing. 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:27.800 It's something that is like affecting you or your life. 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:31.600 So you're watching them kind of climb up and replicate 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:36.240 these parasitic bug like moves where they're climbing into it 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:39.240 to a territory that they don't belong in, right, And 1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:41.960 the difference in the living spaces is so vast because 1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:44.480 when he gets to the Park's house, they have like 1:02:44.560 --> 1:02:47.960 a bamboo lined front entry. They have a huge yard, 1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:51.120 there's tons of sunlight. The inside of the house is 1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:54.440 glass and it's you know, bright, and it's designed by 1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:57.680 a famous architect. And they have a house keeper who's 1:02:57.720 --> 1:03:00.120 like a house manager that they meet, and you know, 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:02.160 those kind of these perfect photos of the Park. 1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:02.920 Family on the wall. 1:03:03.440 --> 1:03:05.360 The reality of the Park family is a little different. 1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:07.080 Park family is a little bit of a mess. Mom's 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:10.280 passed out on the table when Kiwu first arrives, just 1:03:10.320 --> 1:03:14.040 like head down, fallen asleep on the outdoor picnic table, 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:19.200 and he meets his he meets his student da Hi, 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:23.920 and he crushes it. Mom wants Mom is very discerning. 1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:25.680 She wants to sit in on the first lesson. She 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:27.800 kind of wants the best for her kids, and you 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:30.800 can tell that her job is to kind of create 1:03:30.840 --> 1:03:33.240 the perfect family and make sure they have everything they 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:36.480 need to be the perfect family. And she's very naive 1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:39.000 and very easily influenced, which we will come to find out, 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.520 but she wants to when we first meet her. She's 1:03:42.240 --> 1:03:43.960 got a backbone and she's discerning and she wants to 1:03:44.000 --> 1:03:47.480 sit in on the first lesson. Blows everyone away. She 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:52.680 starts calling Keewu Kevin, which is I think culturally in 1:03:53.440 --> 1:03:56.480 wealthier families in Korea, because this movie takes place in Korea. 1:03:56.840 --> 1:03:59.320 I think it's common if you're learning English to kind 1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:03.720 of replicate English names. When I used to teach college classes, 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:06.360 I would have you know, international students, and they would 1:04:06.400 --> 1:04:11.640 always give themselves or have been given a more European name, 1:04:12.280 --> 1:04:13.800 and I always ask, like, you know, like I can 1:04:13.840 --> 1:04:16.320 pronounce your name like like. 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:16.840 If you prefer. 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:19.360 But I think that it's a way of assimilating essentially 1:04:19.640 --> 1:04:20.840 A lot a lot of times. 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:24.480 Those rich kids come to Canada or America or you know, 1:04:24.560 --> 1:04:28.840 English speaking countries like New Zealand and Australia to learn English. 1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:32.320 Right or to go to school, and they get exactly 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:35.120 they get Americanized English names. 1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:39.960 Yeah, so we're already kind of engaging in this this 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:42.680 wealth disparity where you get to choose your name, you 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:44.760 get to kind of choose how how you are in 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:47.000 the world, and you have a little bit more, a 1:04:47.040 --> 1:04:49.480 little bit more of a pathway to respectability because you 1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:50.000 have money. 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:56.400 And so as Kiwu is leaving Das. 1:04:56.320 --> 1:04:59.080 Song, the little boy comes in and his mom is 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:01.720 very concerned that he's not focused. He thinks he's like 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:05.120 this eccentric, genius artist, but he's really the kind of 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:07.000 kid who just like lays around with an arrow in 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:11.160 his butt. And Keiwu is like, oh, you need an 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:15.400 art tutor for him. I've got the perfect person. And 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:18.120 he lies and says that this person was an art 1:05:18.160 --> 1:05:22.000 school with his cousin and it's actually his sister. 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:23.000 It's actually Kijun. 1:05:24.200 --> 1:05:26.560 And there's a really funny scene where he looks at 1:05:26.560 --> 1:05:29.200 one of the kid's paintings and he's like, it's a chimpanzee, right, 1:05:29.320 --> 1:05:33.520 And the mom just says, oh, a self portrait. They 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:36.040 know nothing about art, they know nothing about any of this, 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:39.400 but they are absolutely he's going to get his sister 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:42.480 a job now, right, because he's zoomed in on the 1:05:42.520 --> 1:05:45.520 fact that this woman needs things for her children that 1:05:45.680 --> 1:05:50.240 is her pride and joy. So he suggests his sister 1:05:51.280 --> 1:05:56.080 and when she arrives, his student to Hie is already 1:05:56.160 --> 1:06:00.720 jealous of Keijun. He thinks she doesn't know that their 1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:03.400 brother and sister obviously, and she already has a crush 1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:06.280 on Kiwu, but she's also pissed off because she's like, 1:06:06.680 --> 1:06:08.520 my little brother is pretending to be an artist. He's 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:10.120 pretending to be this total weirder when he's just a 1:06:10.120 --> 1:06:13.120 fucking freaky little kid. But they kiss and they kind 1:06:13.120 --> 1:06:16.000 of have a moment, and you know, you can tell 1:06:16.000 --> 1:06:18.160 that things are going to get started for them. But 1:06:18.200 --> 1:06:20.680 everyone's trying to be respectful of the fact that she's a 1:06:20.720 --> 1:06:25.600 sophomore and wait till she's in university to make a move, 1:06:25.760 --> 1:06:27.680 but like already making the moves, and I'm like. 1:06:27.680 --> 1:06:29.560 I don't know about this, guys, I don't know about this. 1:06:31.000 --> 1:06:36.040 But basically, the sister is hired and her given name 1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:38.960 is Jessica by the mom whose name we don't know yet, 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:42.480 by the way, interestingly enough, and it turns out that 1:06:43.360 --> 1:06:50.800 Kijung is so adept at crafting this psychological story about 1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:54.880 her own abilities that she makes it seem like it's 1:06:55.200 --> 1:06:57.680 her decision to take the kid on and not the 1:06:57.760 --> 1:07:01.840 other way around. So she's like eventually when she's talking 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:03.240 to her parents, she's like, Yeah, I just read some 1:07:03.240 --> 1:07:05.560 shit about art therapy and like I googled some stuff. 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:08.200 And then like this woman was mesmerized, and her parents 1:07:08.200 --> 1:07:10.240 are actually kind of proud. They're like, oh, in another life, 1:07:10.280 --> 1:07:14.440 she would have been such a great cot heart. But 1:07:14.560 --> 1:07:18.360 she's like worked her way into this family by focusing 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:21.280 on the thing that the mom is most worried about, 1:07:21.280 --> 1:07:23.880 that her kid is like having some kind of psychological 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:27.120 issue that he's expressing in art, and she does kind 1:07:27.160 --> 1:07:30.080 of say that something happened to this little boy in 1:07:30.120 --> 1:07:33.040 first grade. We later get the story and there is 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:36.480 a reason for what happened. There's an explanation for what happened. 1:07:36.520 --> 1:07:38.960 He saw something and there's an explanation for it, but 1:07:39.040 --> 1:07:41.840 she's just like super concerned. So this is how this 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:45.320 family starts working their way in. So basically, at this point, 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:47.960 we've got Kei Wu is working three days a week 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:50.840 in the house two hour sessions for tutoring, and now 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:53.280 Kijung is working four days a week in the house 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:56.640 during two hour sessions, so they're basically like full brother 1:07:56.680 --> 1:07:58.200 and sister are full time in this house. 1:07:59.000 --> 1:07:59.840 Then we get to meet the. 1:07:59.800 --> 1:08:04.880 Dad, dung Eke, and let me just tell you this 1:08:04.960 --> 1:08:07.919 cast is also so fucking hot. Lee Soon Qune, who 1:08:07.920 --> 1:08:11.160 plays dung Eke, is so handsome handsome. 1:08:11.440 --> 1:08:12.440 Yeah, unreal. 1:08:13.400 --> 1:08:16.639 Also, I gotta say I kind of like key Wu 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:19.600 Choi wu seek is very very cute. If you're not 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:21.280 going to be a British Man, you should be for me, 1:08:21.320 --> 1:08:25.640 you should be Choi woo sikyah very cute. So the 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:28.120 dad comes in and he's like, you know, he's exactly 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:30.320 everything you think it like. He has like this uh, 1:08:30.920 --> 1:08:34.080 like this firm that he runs, like this business and 1:08:35.120 --> 1:08:37.280 it's a very nebulous business. You don't know what it is, 1:08:37.320 --> 1:08:39.600 but it's something with tech or whatever. And he's like 1:08:39.840 --> 1:08:43.599 very poised and confident, and you know, kind of walks 1:08:43.640 --> 1:08:48.160 into his house and just owns the space. So, by 1:08:48.200 --> 1:08:52.760 the way, yeah, died like super young, like right after 1:08:52.800 --> 1:08:53.719 this film too, right. 1:08:54.400 --> 1:08:58.720 Yeah, I mean he he unlived himself. I don't know 1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:00.519 if there's a better way to say that, But yeah, 1:09:01.920 --> 1:09:06.360 it's actually sad. And I mean then this is like 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:09.280 a larger issue I think that's happening within the South 1:09:09.360 --> 1:09:14.720 Korean entertainment industry is just the amount of pressure that 1:09:14.840 --> 1:09:18.120 exists for famous people in that country where they're kind 1:09:18.120 --> 1:09:21.960 of expected to be these like perfect people, you know, 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:25.640 and you know, by all accounts, I mean, this is 1:09:25.760 --> 1:09:28.080 just you know, stuff that I've read on the internet 1:09:28.160 --> 1:09:31.080 without doing like a huge dive into it. You know, 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:35.040 like he cheated on his wife perhaps and you know, 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:39.360 maybe did some smoke some weed and some other types 1:09:39.400 --> 1:09:44.200 of drugs. But it became this huge scandal to the 1:09:44.280 --> 1:09:48.680 point where you know, I think that you know, obviously 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:51.400 felt the pressure of it to the extent of which 1:09:51.400 --> 1:09:55.800 he you know, basically committed suicide. And it just and 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:59.120 now that I'm kind of like paying attention a little 1:09:59.120 --> 1:10:03.639 bit more, I think to that entertainment industry, that seems 1:10:03.680 --> 1:10:07.280 like a very like common thing that happens there. I mean, 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:09.519 I'm not saying it's super common in the extent that, 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:14.639 but it's happening more there than I think here where 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:17.840 I think just the celebrity culture there is just so 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:23.000 tied into respectability, politics and you know, honor and all 1:10:23.000 --> 1:10:26.000 the stuff where I just think that the pressure gets 1:10:26.040 --> 1:10:30.160 to certain individuals. They can't live real lives, you. 1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:35.040 Know, absolutely, which is another facet of wealth and class. 1:10:35.600 --> 1:10:37.839 Like if you reach a certain point in this culture, 1:10:37.920 --> 1:10:40.320 you have to act a certain way and kind of 1:10:40.360 --> 1:10:43.160 fall in line, and if you don't, there are consequences 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:45.200 one way or the other, by your own hand or 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:46.639 by our hands, so to speak. 1:10:46.720 --> 1:10:50.839 Yeah, and there's a there are pockets of very toxic 1:10:50.920 --> 1:10:54.000 fantom culture like in that country too. I mean, they're 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:56.240 are all over the world. I mean, just generally, I 1:10:56.280 --> 1:10:58.920 think that fandom obviously is kind of has reached kind 1:10:58.960 --> 1:11:00.800 of a fevered pitch of talks the city in terms 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:03.640 of just the ways in which certain people feel like 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:07.800 they own celebrities, right. I mean this guy was pretty 1:11:07.880 --> 1:11:09.880 much our age. He was forty eight when he died, 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:13.320 and he couldn't be like like in a way, it's 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:15.240 it's this feeling. I mean, you know, whether or not 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:17.559 we don't know his personal life, if he had addiction 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:20.240 issues or if he was really struggling with mental health. 1:11:20.280 --> 1:11:23.519 But it's like I'm sitting here, go this guy, you know, 1:11:24.240 --> 1:11:26.559 was just sort of living a private life and then 1:11:26.680 --> 1:11:29.000 you know, people criticized him to the point where it 1:11:29.040 --> 1:11:31.679 felt like he I don't know, I just think that's 1:11:31.680 --> 1:11:34.639 so I don't know. We got to examine that as 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:37.200 a culture, like we got to figure out why that's happening, 1:11:37.240 --> 1:11:39.519 and especially there where it feels like it happens a 1:11:39.560 --> 1:11:42.040 lot more, you know than regular So. 1:11:42.680 --> 1:11:44.120 Which is it is? It's a shame. 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:47.400 And I know that people, especially young women aren't in 1:11:47.479 --> 1:11:50.120 America at least, you know, famous young women are starting 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:53.720 to speak at about toxic fan culture thing oh like 1:11:53.840 --> 1:11:54.559 Chapel Road. 1:11:55.120 --> 1:11:58.719 Yeah, I even saw like a thing with Tyler the Creator, 1:11:59.120 --> 1:12:00.840 Like I think that Tyler the Creator, you know, the 1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:03.080 rapper's he's got like a new album out and he 1:12:03.320 --> 1:12:07.640 is basically like, listen, I don't owe you anything, Like 1:12:07.760 --> 1:12:10.160 I am a celebrity, but I I don't know you shit, 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:12.320 Like you're my fan. You can like the music, but like, 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:14.559 I'm not a role model. I'm not trying to like 1:12:14.920 --> 1:12:18.599 give you access to my personal life like it ain't happening. 1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:21.439 So you know, good, Yeah, we need good for them 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:23.360 and we need to address it in a much bigger way. 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:27.200 Yeah, And you're right, and it is an international issue, 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:28.400 international issue. 1:12:28.600 --> 1:12:31.160 Sorry to sidebar, but I had to know so important 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:33.280 sidebar Lisa and Kune. 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:37.160 So so basically we do meet the dad, like the 1:12:37.439 --> 1:12:42.759 patriarch of the family, and he has this driver June, 1:12:43.040 --> 1:12:46.599 who comes in with him when he comes home, and 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:52.200 Une gives Ki June a ride home, like the family 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:54.639 insists that they give her a ride home, and he's 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:56.640 being a little he's just being very friendly, you know, 1:12:56.640 --> 1:12:57.920 he's really a friendly driver. 1:12:58.080 --> 1:12:59.240 It's kind of chatting with her. 1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:04.280 But Keijun gets an idea while she's sitting in the 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:08.719 back of that car, and she takes off her underwear 1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:11.599 and leaves it under the seat, And at. 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:13.519 First you're like, what the fuck is going Like what 1:13:13.680 --> 1:13:14.120 is she doing? 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:16.240 Because this guy wasn't mean to her or cruel to 1:13:16.280 --> 1:13:20.000 her or anything, like what is she doing? But dong 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:23.600 Eek finds the underwear and he thinks you and is 1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:25.840 like a total scumbag who's having sex with women in 1:13:25.880 --> 1:13:28.800 his car. So then they like he and his wife 1:13:28.840 --> 1:13:30.920 start speculating about like the kind of woman that he 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:33.040 slept with, like who would forget her own underwear? She 1:13:33.160 --> 1:13:35.280 must be an addict, Like it's amazing to watch them 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:38.599 spiral out. It's so hilarious. Yeah, but he basically asked 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:40.880 his wife to let the driver go, which is another 1:13:40.880 --> 1:13:43.880 one of her duties as the person who manages the house, 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:47.360 to let her let this driver go. And then, as 1:13:47.479 --> 1:13:50.120 you know, after she does it, she says to Kijung, 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:53.120 you know, is he weird to you or forward in 1:13:53.160 --> 1:13:54.920 any way? And Keijung is like, no, he was a 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:57.519 perfect gentleman. He was great. She's like, oh, it sucks. 1:13:57.560 --> 1:13:59.720 It's like we had to let our driver go and 1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:01.599 that's why. Or she jumps in and she's like, oh yeah, 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:04.840 my uncle had a driver that was really great. And 1:14:04.920 --> 1:14:09.000 because now mom doesn't trust anyone, but somehow she trusts Jessica. 1:14:09.120 --> 1:14:09.360 Again. 1:14:09.400 --> 1:14:13.599 It is this really interesting conversation where she's like, I 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:16.599 don't trust anyone anymore. My faith has been so rocked. 1:14:16.640 --> 1:14:18.479 I only trust people I know. And I'm like, but 1:14:18.560 --> 1:14:22.320 you just met her, you just met her. But again, 1:14:22.600 --> 1:14:25.400 wealth blinds you to things when people are being nice 1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:29.040 and helpful to you, I guess. So Kijung is basically like, 1:14:29.160 --> 1:14:32.479 I got the driver for you, and who comes in. 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:34.520 It's Pops. 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:40.280 Yeah, right, it's Kai Tech. So Pops comes in and 1:14:40.360 --> 1:14:41.040 he's the driver. 1:14:41.200 --> 1:14:46.240 Now we now have three people. 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:49.679 In this family in this house, and then they all 1:14:49.720 --> 1:14:53.760 together decide to set their sights on the housekeeper. So 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:57.479 the housekeeper, we eventually learn her name is Moon Gwang 1:14:58.760 --> 1:15:00.960 and she's been there the law longest. She was actually 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:04.880 the housekeeper for the architect who built it, so she 1:15:05.080 --> 1:15:09.040 came with the house essentially, and the family, the Kim 1:15:09.080 --> 1:15:11.000 family doesn't like it because, like, well, she acts like 1:15:11.040 --> 1:15:14.280 she owns the house and basically, if anyone's gonna find 1:15:14.320 --> 1:15:18.240 them out, it's gonna be her. So they find out 1:15:18.600 --> 1:15:22.280 through Dahai and she's tutoring, you know, in this tutoring 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:24.120 session with Kiwu, and she's like, oh, I wish I 1:15:24.120 --> 1:15:26.240 could have peaches, but you know, our housekeeper is allergic, 1:15:26.280 --> 1:15:29.200 so we can never have peaches. They fucking jump on that, 1:15:29.360 --> 1:15:32.479 start shaving peach fuzz off of peaches and just kind 1:15:32.479 --> 1:15:36.960 of sprinkling it around moungwog and just giving her all 1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:40.840 these like allergic reactions. Dad takes a picture of her 1:15:40.920 --> 1:15:42.880 at urgent care. He's like, oh, I was there for 1:15:42.960 --> 1:15:45.880 my annual exam and I heard her say she had tuberculosis. 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:49.840 And then the next and then he tells the mom 1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:51.599 of the family like, oh, yeah, I heard her say 1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:54.320 she had tuberculosis. Like I don't say anything. I'm so sorry, 1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:57.080 but like you should know, and just this whole act 1:15:57.360 --> 1:15:59.599 that they're practicing with each other, like how to talk, 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:04.800 wild to watch, and they sprinkle peach fuzz near her. 1:16:06.400 --> 1:16:08.840 They cut when they're coming home one day, So the 1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:14.200 mom and Kai Tech come home one day. 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.519 As soon as the housekeeper's. 1:16:16.080 --> 1:16:20.240 Mongwong starts coughing, Kai Tech goes to the garbage can 1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:23.479 and sprays hot sauce on her napkin that she's just 1:16:23.520 --> 1:16:26.760 thrown away so it looks like blood and holds it up, 1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:30.080 and the mom almost passes out, so she's gone. Like 1:16:30.120 --> 1:16:36.679 now housekeeper is also gone, and who comes in? Dad suggests, oh, 1:16:36.760 --> 1:16:40.720 I've got this card for this high class service, you know, 1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:42.880 because you know Don Eek is like, well, I really 1:16:42.880 --> 1:16:45.720 miss her old housekeeper, like she knew how not to cross. 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:47.080 The line, which was very important for him. 1:16:47.080 --> 1:16:48.920 Which is another thing to discuss about this movie in 1:16:49.000 --> 1:16:52.920 terms of class and wealth disparity, is they don't mind 1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:55.840 being around people who don't have as much money as 1:16:55.880 --> 1:16:58.280 them as long as they don't cross the line, which 1:16:58.280 --> 1:17:02.479 to him is specific, but it feels like everyone kind 1:17:02.479 --> 1:17:04.360 of has their own definition of what that is for 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:06.120 them when they reach a certain level of wealth. 1:17:07.240 --> 1:17:08.160 So he really misses the. 1:17:08.120 --> 1:17:11.400 Housekeeper and he's like, oh, I've got this perfect person. 1:17:11.840 --> 1:17:14.880 There's the service that was trying to actually, you know, 1:17:15.160 --> 1:17:17.280 head hunt me before I started working for you, and 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:21.160 they just they just have veteran greed help to vip 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:26.120 clients like you. So now everyone, the entire Kim family 1:17:27.160 --> 1:17:32.120 is working in the park House and there is a 1:17:32.200 --> 1:17:36.120 moment where Da Song, the little boy kind of sniffs 1:17:36.160 --> 1:17:38.320 the dead and sniffs the sister and he's like, oh, 1:17:38.360 --> 1:17:41.519 you all smell the same, because they basically all smell 1:17:41.600 --> 1:17:47.240 like the basement they live in. So again it comes 1:17:47.320 --> 1:17:50.960 back the importance of how they smell and the fact 1:17:51.080 --> 1:17:54.160 that it's discernible. It's something that you know, this wealthy 1:17:54.240 --> 1:17:59.120 child can can pick out as a discussion point or 1:17:59.160 --> 1:18:01.800 something to just know. Is that people smell different from me, 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:04.360 and they don't smell good to them. 1:18:04.680 --> 1:18:05.679 And that does come back. 1:18:06.479 --> 1:18:13.760 Not enough people talk about smell as being an indicator 1:18:13.800 --> 1:18:14.559 of class. 1:18:15.200 --> 1:18:19.439 Yeah you know what I mean, I do, But keep 1:18:19.479 --> 1:18:21.439 going the way in. 1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:27.400 Which people can be really compelled by that notion to 1:18:27.520 --> 1:18:32.400 not smell bad, to not want to smell poor. Like 1:18:32.479 --> 1:18:34.439 I don't know why. When I was watching this movie again, 1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:37.920 I really thought about that, you know, right, And I'm 1:18:38.000 --> 1:18:42.240 just like I'm sitting there going like, yeah, I mean, 1:18:42.360 --> 1:18:47.840 what an indictment of poverty to just smell bad, like 1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:50.400 to have that, you know, Like for them, there's a 1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:52.000 scene which I don't know if you'll get to whether 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:54.799 under the table we're basically like they're forced to listen 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:57.240 to these rich people like talk about the way in 1:18:57.280 --> 1:19:01.280 which he smells right, and it just crushed me, Like 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:02.160 I was just like. 1:19:02.720 --> 1:19:04.639 It's felt humiliating. 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:08.760 So humiliating, and felt like that the kind of it's 1:19:08.840 --> 1:19:11.559 so primal, Like I remember that being such a huge 1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:14.639 issue when we were like in middle school. Like for yeah, 1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:18.799 we're like people would make fun of other people because 1:19:18.840 --> 1:19:21.880 they smelled poor or something, and you're just like, what 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:25.519 is that is just such a crazy concept to me, I. 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:28.080 Got made fun of. Oh my god, this fucking fitch. 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:31.320 I will never reveal her name, but I know her name. Yeah, 1:19:31.920 --> 1:19:34.479 And one day out of nowhere, she's she's like, you 1:19:34.560 --> 1:19:39.439 smell you smell bad? And I was like rocked to 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:42.080 my core. Yeah, because I'm like, I don't think I do. 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:46.040 Like I bathe every day, yeah, like I washed my clothes. 1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:47.000 I don't think I do. 1:19:47.800 --> 1:19:50.640 But I also live with like two heavy chainsmokers, and 1:19:50.720 --> 1:19:51.639 yeah we're poor. 1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:53.519 So maybe I do. I don't know. 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:54.120 Yeah. 1:19:54.200 --> 1:19:54.639 Yeah. 1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:57.400 It was a way to like hurt people's feelings, especially 1:19:57.479 --> 1:20:00.559 when we were kids. Like even like ways in which 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:03.720 like they like you would be wearing perfume, but it 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:06.879 would be like the shitty like the what like electric 1:20:06.960 --> 1:20:09.439 youth or something. Yeah, And I'm like, I'm sorry, you're 1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:12.759 in seventh grade? Should I be wearing Tom Ford right now? 1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:14.760 Like what the fuck are you thinking? Like, oh, you 1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:20.200 smell like CBS. My god, what a bitch. I just 1:20:20.240 --> 1:20:24.439 feel like, say that good lord. By the way, like 1:20:24.560 --> 1:20:27.719 some of that shit still hits, okay. If I smell 1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:30.559 a guy, if there's a guy that walks in, he's 1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:33.800 warn't curve from Dwayne Reid. 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:37.880 I'm like, hello, I don't know what thirty bucks. 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:39.960 I don't even know what anything smells like because I've 1:20:39.960 --> 1:20:41.960 never been able to afford good perfume. Like I don't 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:43.600 know what anything smells like. 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:46.479 Like it's crazy it's crazy, like how people get so 1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:49.320 caught up and like the smell thing as an indicator 1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:52.600 of so of people's worthiness. 1:20:53.560 --> 1:20:56.080 And it's also it's beyond your control because there is 1:20:56.320 --> 1:20:59.000 there is a scene where the family is talking about it, 1:20:59.800 --> 1:21:02.559 and it's before the humiliating scene and they're like, well, 1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:04.600 maybe we should each use a different detergent so we 1:21:04.640 --> 1:21:06.720 don't smell like each other. And then finally it's the 1:21:06.760 --> 1:21:10.280 sister who says that none of that matters. It's because 1:21:10.280 --> 1:21:13.639 we live in this semi basement apartment. It's the building 1:21:13.680 --> 1:21:15.360 we live in, like, we will never get rid of 1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:17.160 the smell as long as we live here. 1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:18.440 It's a lifestyle. 1:21:18.560 --> 1:21:22.519 Yeah, it's a lifestyle. So it's fucking wild. It's wild. 1:21:22.680 --> 1:21:27.120 So the family again, Kim family is all in. Park 1:21:27.200 --> 1:21:31.000 family has hired all of them. They're all like thrilled 1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:34.320 they're making money, like they're happiest. 1:21:34.320 --> 1:21:34.559 Shit. 1:21:35.240 --> 1:21:37.400 Then the Park family decides to go on a camping 1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:40.400 trip for Das Song's birthday, and this is where you 1:21:40.439 --> 1:21:44.479 see the car full of snow peak shit, and they 1:21:44.560 --> 1:21:48.479 overpack like you wouldn't fucking believe, and they have of course, 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:53.360 their housekeeper is doing all the packing but they are 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:56.880 like jamming this car full of the most expensive shit 1:21:56.920 --> 1:21:58.680 you've ever seen in your life to take like an 1:21:58.760 --> 1:22:00.759 eight year old on a camping trip for his birthday. 1:22:01.920 --> 1:22:03.880 I just put in the chat a link to the 1:22:03.880 --> 1:22:06.560 snow Peak website where they sell a pair of chopsticks 1:22:06.600 --> 1:22:13.400 for fifty dollars. If you wonder what kind of what 1:22:13.479 --> 1:22:18.160 kind of shit we're talking about? Like, I mean, when 1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:20.760 I saw like their entire house, like they have this, 1:22:21.080 --> 1:22:25.360 you know, I guess a storage area which plays very 1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:29.559 heavily into this. At some point they got like Snowpeak 1:22:29.560 --> 1:22:31.639 boxes up there. They filled the car out with SNOWFG. 1:22:31.640 --> 1:22:34.160 I was like, yo, this is like this is just 1:22:34.600 --> 1:22:39.599 leisure camping equipment, Like this is not year round use. 1:22:39.680 --> 1:22:41.720 This is like, oh, we decided to go camp in 1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:44.000 a couple of times a year, and y'all are putting 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:47.720 fifty dollars chopsticks in the car like and that's how 1:22:47.920 --> 1:22:49.080 which these people are. 1:22:49.920 --> 1:22:52.439 There are things on this website that are sold out 1:22:52.920 --> 1:22:55.880 that are over seven hundred and fifty dollars for a tent, 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.080 and I am rocked to I feel like I shouldn't 1:23:01.120 --> 1:23:02.840 even be I'm not even I don't make enough. 1:23:02.840 --> 1:23:04.080 I didn't even look at this website. 1:23:04.479 --> 1:23:06.120 Yeah, it's it's beautiful. 1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:11.640 I will say that I have sadly been in pursuit 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:15.880 of a couple of these items, and I actually have. 1:23:16.640 --> 1:23:20.320 I have the grill, Like there's a fold a foldable 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:25.960 grill that I've used my ARII dividend to buy because 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:27.880 I was like, I'm gonna get that grill. 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:29.479 It was the last thing I do. 1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:35.000 You know, I need a little piece of Japanese design EXPECD, 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:37.000 like I need some luxury in my life. You know 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:43.519 how many times I use that thing? One time will 1:23:43.960 --> 1:23:45.840 and then I got stressed. I used it because I 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:50.599 was like, it's probably now there's burnt charcoal residue. It's 1:23:50.720 --> 1:23:51.639 beautiful grill. 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:56.160 I'm looking at a three hundred and nine dollars recycled 1:23:56.160 --> 1:24:00.320 cotton denim jacket that looks very stylish, and if you 1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:02.439 ever see me in one, that's how you know I've 1:24:02.479 --> 1:24:02.760 made it. 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:04.000 Yeah, I know. 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:06.519 But also this is the kind of website where they 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:08.040 do not show you the prices. 1:24:08.560 --> 1:24:10.280 You don't know the price, so you click through. 1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:11.760 They're like if you don't, if you have to be 1:24:11.760 --> 1:24:13.200 worried about the price, you shouldn't even be on this 1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:14.000 fucking website. 1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:14.800 Yep. 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:17.200 Well that's how they go, and. 1:24:17.120 --> 1:24:18.760 That's how it is in this family. They don't even 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:20.800 think about the money they spend. They just have so 1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:22.439 much of it they don't even think about it. So 1:24:22.439 --> 1:24:25.439 they pack this fucking car full of like you said, 1:24:25.520 --> 1:24:30.479 one use items a year maybe, Yeah, and they pack 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:32.960 it fucking full and go away for the weekend. 1:24:34.120 --> 1:24:36.160 And it's unreal. 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:39.360 It's unreal to watch them and their expensive car from 1:24:39.360 --> 1:24:42.640 their fancy house and this that's just again markers of 1:24:42.680 --> 1:24:47.519 wealth everywhere. Yes, but the Kim family is like, yes, 1:24:47.680 --> 1:24:49.840 they're gone, and they take over the house and it's 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:51.840 pouring rain and they get drunk and it is so 1:24:52.040 --> 1:24:55.200 fucking funny, yeah, to watch them in this scene. But 1:24:55.280 --> 1:24:58.400 they're also kind of speculating because now Kiwu is like, oh, yeah, 1:24:58.439 --> 1:25:01.559 I really like d and I think I'm gonna marry her. 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:05.439 So now they're speculating like, well, if I do, I'm 1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:07.320 gonna have to bring in actors to play my mother 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:11.320 and father since you already work here. Yeah, And they're 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:13.880 kind of like spinning this tale about how much more 1:25:13.920 --> 1:25:16.439 embedded they're gonna get in this family. But they're also 1:25:16.520 --> 1:25:20.000 talking about the family itself and how gullible the parks are, 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:22.880 and the mom at one point is like, yeah, rich 1:25:22.880 --> 1:25:26.800 people are naive. Money irons out all the creases. They're 1:25:26.840 --> 1:25:29.880 just kind of aware of what they're doing. And again 1:25:29.920 --> 1:25:32.360 it's kind of parasitic what they're doing, but then they're 1:25:32.400 --> 1:25:35.160 also and you don't have to make a direct parasite 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:39.000 like metaphorical shift here to understand the film. But it 1:25:39.080 --> 1:25:40.800 is interesting is if you watch it more than one 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:42.880 time to kind of start to make these connections. But 1:25:42.920 --> 1:25:46.519 they're having a great time until the old housekeeper comes 1:25:46.560 --> 1:25:51.000 back because she has left something in the house that 1:25:51.120 --> 1:25:53.599 is directly tied to the basement room that we've seen 1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:58.519 with all the plumb extract and equipment and you know, 1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:02.479 just stuff that this family has. And I gotta say, 1:26:02.520 --> 1:26:04.800 when she comes back, all hell breaks loose. 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:06.920 What does it? 1:26:08.120 --> 1:26:12.679 The movie shifts into something remarkable, and then the family 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:16.360 comes back because it's been raining and they're like, they 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:20.720 give an eight minute eta, So now everyone is trying 1:26:20.760 --> 1:26:23.000 to like clean up their drunken mess, deal with this 1:26:23.040 --> 1:26:26.080 housekeeper that's come back and all the shit that she's 1:26:26.120 --> 1:26:27.679 bringing into the end of the fray. 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:29.839 They're hiding under the table. 1:26:29.960 --> 1:26:33.080 They're like, it's just I don't want to go beyond 1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:37.200 that point to describe this film because it will ruin 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:40.640 the movie for you. Just know that when the housekeeper 1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:46.040 comes back, all hell breaks loose and you will find 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:52.639 yourself questioning who the parasite really is in this movie. 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:56.080 And I don't think that wealth prevents you from being parasitic. 1:26:57.040 --> 1:26:59.799 But it's just stunning. It's a masterpiece. It's a stunning, 1:27:00.080 --> 1:27:05.120 stunning movie. Incredible topic, incredible presentation. I could obviously talk 1:27:05.160 --> 1:27:07.519 about it forever. It is also over to Both of 1:27:07.560 --> 1:27:09.160 our movies are almost two and a half hours long, 1:27:09.200 --> 1:27:12.360 so you're in for like a five hour masterclass on 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:16.040 wealth disparity if you watch both of them back to back. 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:18.200 But I fucking love it. I love this movie. I 1:27:18.240 --> 1:27:21.760 think everyone should watch it multiple times and different times 1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:22.200 in their life. 1:27:22.280 --> 1:27:23.120 It's stunning. 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:28.880 Yeah, I mean it won the Oscar, it won everything. Yeah, 1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:31.479 like and was the first am I wrong? It was 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:34.480 the first South Korean film to ever win Best Pictures. 1:27:34.760 --> 1:27:39.240 I mean this, You can't really, honestly, you cannot overstress 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:43.559 the importance of how this movie, like this was a 1:27:43.600 --> 1:27:49.080 period I think too where South Korean culture was coming 1:27:49.240 --> 1:27:52.519 into America in a huge way, you know, because it 1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:54.600 wasn't just parasite. It was like, you know obviously like 1:27:54.600 --> 1:27:57.920 stuff like BTS and Squid Game and you know, K 1:27:58.200 --> 1:28:01.240 dramas and you know, all this stuff was coming. But 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:04.280 this movie kind of to me when it won the 1:28:04.280 --> 1:28:09.400 Oscar felt like, okay, like now we're in this cultural 1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:13.080 moment where you know, these kind of self created exports 1:28:13.120 --> 1:28:16.320 are now coming in America and getting like critical acclaim 1:28:16.479 --> 1:28:19.320 and it, you know, which is very interesting to. 1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:20.680 Me, you know, And. 1:28:22.160 --> 1:28:26.040 I think obviously like this movie is saying a lot 1:28:26.080 --> 1:28:29.200 about class in this very specific, you know, time period 1:28:29.200 --> 1:28:30.920 that we're living in, I think we're still living in. 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.920 And there's so many like little layers to it that 1:28:34.960 --> 1:28:38.800 I just really enjoy it. Like I saw after seeing 1:28:38.800 --> 1:28:40.280 it again, I was like, oh, yeah, this movie is 1:28:40.320 --> 1:28:42.720 really textured, and there's a lot going on here in 1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:45.479 the ways in which like, yeah, how do people like 1:28:45.640 --> 1:28:49.400 navigate class? Because you've got like, you know, the obvious 1:28:49.400 --> 1:28:52.720 story where it's like, you know, you've got these you know, 1:28:52.920 --> 1:28:56.600 poor people infiltrating this rich family. But then there's the 1:28:56.680 --> 1:29:01.200 old housekeeper and that story and how those people clash 1:29:01.520 --> 1:29:03.719 and you're kind of like, Okay, so now these people 1:29:04.400 --> 1:29:08.240 who are both effectively poor, how do they fight each 1:29:08.280 --> 1:29:11.559 other for the you know, to stay in the lives 1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:12.679 of this rich family. 1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:15.160 And you're just like, yeah, man. 1:29:15.200 --> 1:29:19.519 And it also becomes a really interesting as does your film. 1:29:20.040 --> 1:29:22.400 When you're talking about class, you also can't help but 1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:25.559 talk about power. So it becomes a really interesting study, 1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:31.120 or at least examination of power dynamics as they relate 1:29:31.160 --> 1:29:35.920 to class dynamics. Because someone in the Kim's position gets 1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:39.120 a little bit of money, suddenly they're treating some people 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:42.240 a little bit differently, or they act a little differently, 1:29:42.360 --> 1:29:45.040 or they kind of start to again aspire to this 1:29:45.200 --> 1:29:47.840 role of wealth to the point where it changes who 1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:49.439 they are and how they treat people. 1:29:49.920 --> 1:29:56.120 Yeah. Yeah, that is a huge topic in my film. 1:29:56.640 --> 1:30:00.760 Oh yeah, which I also loved. I did not know 1:30:00.840 --> 1:30:04.360 anything about your movie when I watched it the first time, 1:30:04.720 --> 1:30:07.080 and I was riveted. 1:30:07.680 --> 1:30:10.080 Yeah, you want to talk about it a little bit. 1:30:10.360 --> 1:30:11.680 I want to talk about it a lot of it. 1:30:12.240 --> 1:30:12.840 A lot of it. 1:30:19.160 --> 1:30:19.559 All right. 1:30:19.680 --> 1:30:26.160 Well, My movie for the theme Eat Oho Riitch is 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:31.080 from twenty twenty two. It was written and directed by 1:30:31.200 --> 1:30:35.599 Ruben Ausland and it's called Triangle of Sadness. 1:30:35.640 --> 1:30:38.720 Pain for the tickets not better though, So what do 1:30:38.760 --> 1:30:38.960 you do? 1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:42.160 I sell suit, No, it's really funny because you would, 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.120 like you just said that you didn't know anything about 1:30:44.160 --> 1:30:48.599 this movie too, one of the funnest things to figure out. So, okay, 1:30:48.680 --> 1:30:50.599 when I when I first saw this movie, I knew 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:53.519 it was a Ruben Auslin movie. He did like force 1:30:53.600 --> 1:31:02.120 majeure in this in the Square is may I yeah, 1:31:02.200 --> 1:31:04.439 and like and like to that point, like, you know, 1:31:04.960 --> 1:31:08.639 I think he specifically is a director that's very very 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:14.760 much making provocative films that are you know, kind of 1:31:15.720 --> 1:31:20.920 addressing class and the economies of people rich and poor. 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:25.559 And there are some people that I know that think 1:31:25.640 --> 1:31:28.160 that he's you know, like that is kind of like 1:31:28.200 --> 1:31:31.200 an eye rolly, like oh this another Like, especially when 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:33.760 Triangle of Sadness came out, I had quite a few 1:31:33.760 --> 1:31:37.080 friends who are like, oh, really, like this is so obvious. 1:31:37.160 --> 1:31:41.479 I'm like, listen, I'll take it. I will take the 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:48.080 deconstruction of you know, capitalism in its modern form right now. 1:31:48.640 --> 1:31:53.040 I spent I've spent the last year listening to K pop. 1:31:53.160 --> 1:31:55.320 Do you think there's any critical thinking happening in that 1:31:55.360 --> 1:32:00.120 world mostly for the most part, like Sabrina Carpenter's and 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:03.679 the Ariatic Grandees God bless you. But do you think 1:32:03.680 --> 1:32:07.840 that they're deconstructing like class in a very like deep 1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:09.439 and interesting way. 1:32:09.640 --> 1:32:10.519 No, Nope. 1:32:11.080 --> 1:32:12.479 So like let this. 1:32:12.400 --> 1:32:14.240 Guy cook, Okay, what the fuck? 1:32:14.280 --> 1:32:16.439 Why are we getting so caught up? And like, oh, 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:19.400 it's like so obvious when he's trying to say, like, oh, 1:32:19.439 --> 1:32:22.080 it's like people on a like yeah, there's like nobody 1:32:22.120 --> 1:32:24.000 out here making that kind of shit right now, just 1:32:24.120 --> 1:32:24.960 let me have that. 1:32:25.479 --> 1:32:28.920 Also, the things that Ruben Auslin is focusing on is 1:32:28.960 --> 1:32:32.439 the nuances that go along with that. That is what's 1:32:32.479 --> 1:32:35.200 interesting to me is it's not just its overall statement 1:32:35.320 --> 1:32:39.080 about wealth. He's looking at the nuances and things that 1:32:39.120 --> 1:32:42.519 you can find within yourself that you replicate that could 1:32:42.560 --> 1:32:44.320 eventually make you one of these people. 1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:49.000 Yes, yes, Like this isn't like I know it's that 1:32:49.160 --> 1:32:52.360 super punk rock to be to this movie isn't super 1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:55.160 fucking punk rock. And I trust me, I am capable 1:32:55.240 --> 1:32:58.519 of that type of thinking. But like, sometimes you just 1:32:58.560 --> 1:33:02.120 have to accept the market are doing its like little 1:33:02.600 --> 1:33:05.200 form of resistance and just let it go and move on. 1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:08.240 Like it's at least in the right it's at least. 1:33:08.000 --> 1:33:09.519 Fighting a good fight, you know what I mean, Like 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:10.600 the exactly. 1:33:10.520 --> 1:33:13.360 Cinophiles with your fucking opinions. 1:33:14.680 --> 1:33:19.640 Anyway, ran over, not for long because we had a 1:33:19.680 --> 1:33:20.599 lot of talk about. 1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:27.160 So yeah, so this is kind of in the trilogy 1:33:27.640 --> 1:33:33.200 about toxic masculinity, which again I will take all day 1:33:33.240 --> 1:33:37.000 long love a takedown of toxic masculinity. Like, I don't 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:39.439 care if it swings for the fences, it doesn't matter. 1:33:39.479 --> 1:33:44.280 I'm in. So when this movie came out, I didn't 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:48.160 know anything about it and I just I saw the 1:33:48.160 --> 1:33:50.800 the poster in it was a boat, right, So I thought, 1:33:50.880 --> 1:33:54.599 triangle of sadness? Are they talking about Bermuda triangle? Perhaps? 1:33:54.680 --> 1:33:57.800 I don't know. I didn't know what that meant. But 1:33:58.800 --> 1:34:01.080 the best part is when the opening moments of the 1:34:01.120 --> 1:34:04.240 film where you find out what that means, what is 1:34:04.400 --> 1:34:08.040 that's in reference to, which is so funny. And I 1:34:08.080 --> 1:34:09.960 was like, I didn't even realize that was a thing 1:34:09.960 --> 1:34:13.519 that people said. And what a stupid thing, What. 1:34:13.560 --> 1:34:15.000 A stupid. 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:20.920 What a stupid phrase for the stupidest thing. 1:34:21.400 --> 1:34:26.240 So the trigle of sadness, if you haven't heard, if 1:34:26.280 --> 1:34:30.320 you've not read the Internet. It's basically a section of 1:34:30.360 --> 1:34:36.639 someone's forehead that makes you look old and shitty where 1:34:36.640 --> 1:34:38.640 they can like botox that shit out and all of 1:34:38.680 --> 1:34:41.599 a sudden, now you're popular and hot. That's base. 1:34:41.800 --> 1:34:42.920 That's basically what it is. 1:34:46.080 --> 1:34:48.240 And it's like an industry term for like I don't know, 1:34:48.360 --> 1:34:51.719 plastic surgeons and models and other people that care about 1:34:51.720 --> 1:34:55.960 that stuff, where it's like basically the old looking part 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:57.360 of your forehead that you can. 1:34:57.280 --> 1:34:59.960 Fix, which I never heard about until I watched this. 1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:04.120 Yeah. Yeah, And that is kind of the you know, 1:35:04.320 --> 1:35:06.760 the sort of undercurrent of the film, right because you've 1:35:06.800 --> 1:35:11.120 got this model, actually we've got two models. You've got 1:35:11.520 --> 1:35:15.600 the lead of this film, who is played by the 1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:22.760 actor Harris Dickinson. Okay, Harris Dickinson's having a moment right now, 1:35:24.160 --> 1:35:30.400 having a moment culturally but also in my brain. Most recently, 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:33.599 he there's been a lot of articles about his new 1:35:33.640 --> 1:35:36.559 movie that's coming out with Nicole Kidman called Baby Girl, 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:42.040 which is supposed to be like an erotic thriller, older woman, 1:35:42.160 --> 1:35:48.519 younger man type of scenario. Gotta say, I will probably 1:35:48.560 --> 1:35:55.160 watch that film. I also recently, because of that press 1:35:55.280 --> 1:35:58.679 junket I suppose that that they're on for this film 1:35:58.760 --> 1:36:01.400 or whatever is happening promotion for the film. I saw 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:07.800 an interview with Harris Dickinson and Andrew Garfield where he 1:36:07.920 --> 1:36:12.720 reveals that he's an old man skateboarder. Really both they 1:36:12.760 --> 1:36:16.479 both skate, and then because they're old, they now switched 1:36:16.520 --> 1:36:19.840 to surfing because the bodies can't take the you know, 1:36:20.040 --> 1:36:22.479 constant falling on the ground and shit. And I was like, 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:26.040 did you just tell me that Harris Dickinson is a skateboarder. 1:36:26.120 --> 1:36:28.559 And Andrew Garfield is a skater? I know? 1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:31.360 And they were like the ways in which they're swapping, like, 1:36:31.640 --> 1:36:35.160 you know, like Old Guy Skate Stories. I was like, 1:36:36.160 --> 1:36:38.759 I'm gonna need a moment here, Wait. 1:36:38.640 --> 1:36:41.160 A minute, Old Guy Skate Stories a movie about an 1:36:41.160 --> 1:36:42.280 older woman, younger man. 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:43.719 I feel like I can make this happen. 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:47.200 I mean, I'm not saying that I like looked him 1:36:47.280 --> 1:36:50.479 up on the internet for hours one night, ah, but 1:36:50.560 --> 1:36:53.800 I mean honestly, like I remember him. This is the 1:36:53.800 --> 1:36:56.120 first time I ever saw him is in Trial with 1:36:56.240 --> 1:36:58.799 Sadness Sadness, But then he was also in The Iron Claw, 1:36:59.439 --> 1:37:01.760 you know, so I just was like, he's kind of 1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:06.200 in he's in the in the moment. Yeah, he's like 1:37:06.240 --> 1:37:11.200 in his late twenties. He's hot, he's a skateboarder. He's 1:37:11.280 --> 1:37:15.519 now he's gonna be in the you know, the Sleeping 1:37:15.520 --> 1:37:18.040 with Your Intern movie that we're all gonna watch because 1:37:18.040 --> 1:37:22.200 we're horning old people. I don't know, I like him. 1:37:22.320 --> 1:37:25.600 Let's just say that I like him really. So essentially 1:37:25.640 --> 1:37:31.599 in this movie, Harris Dickinson's character is, uh, he's a model, 1:37:31.880 --> 1:37:34.559 and and the thing about it is that I read 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:39.280 that Ruben Auslin's wife is a fashion photographer, and so 1:37:39.479 --> 1:37:43.120 he has a lot of you know, firsthand knowledge basically 1:37:43.120 --> 1:37:45.960 about that industry and about you know, this concept that 1:37:46.040 --> 1:37:50.679 male models do not make as much money as female models. Right. 1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:55.040 And this is again going back to this concept of 1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:57.559 like the triangle of sadness, the way in which we 1:37:57.640 --> 1:38:01.479 have to like get this you know a or old er, 1:38:01.800 --> 1:38:05.360 you know, unsightly thing away from us, Like we're always 1:38:05.360 --> 1:38:08.679 in this pursuit of being young and beautiful. Right, it's 1:38:08.720 --> 1:38:11.840 like one of the only industries where male males make 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:12.599 less than women. 1:38:12.840 --> 1:38:13.000 Right. 1:38:13.160 --> 1:38:17.000 And this is like his anxiety is that he's not 1:38:17.600 --> 1:38:20.960 he's basically treated he's kind of in a feminized position 1:38:21.040 --> 1:38:24.000 where he's being treated, you know, in a way in 1:38:24.040 --> 1:38:27.040 his industry that like he's being debased. 1:38:27.080 --> 1:38:28.080 I suppose. 1:38:29.439 --> 1:38:33.719 He's got this beautiful girlfriend who is also a model. 1:38:34.000 --> 1:38:36.200 His name is Karl, her name is Yayah. She's played 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:42.200 by Charleby Dean, who sadly also passed away very young. Right, 1:38:43.040 --> 1:38:44.639 But that kind of the thing about both of our 1:38:44.680 --> 1:38:50.040 movies this week, right, is like very sad deaths of 1:38:50.080 --> 1:38:51.200 some cast members. 1:38:51.680 --> 1:38:52.560 Yeah. 1:38:52.600 --> 1:38:57.000 And the crazy thing about her she died of sepsis, 1:38:57.040 --> 1:39:00.640 which I almost died of sepsis. So I feel like 1:39:00.680 --> 1:39:04.320 I have something in common with her. And it was 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:08.240 because and I noticed this in the film. She has 1:39:08.280 --> 1:39:12.760 a scar that I have. Oh, that's right, So she 1:39:13.000 --> 1:39:15.080 I mean, you can see it's kind of noticeable, but 1:39:15.160 --> 1:39:18.360 it's like, you know, basically like a scar that runs 1:39:18.360 --> 1:39:21.680 down the middle of her body. And I read that 1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:25.640 she had her spleen removed many many years ago, and 1:39:25.880 --> 1:39:29.640 because of that, she was more susceptible to like bacterial infections, 1:39:29.680 --> 1:39:32.759 and that's eventually what killed her, is a bacterial affection. 1:39:33.200 --> 1:39:35.760 And so I don't know, like, you know, obviously, like 1:39:35.800 --> 1:39:38.559 anytime I hear somebody having a bacterial affection and almost 1:39:38.640 --> 1:39:40.880 dying from it. I'm like, I feel connected to you 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:45.760 because I went through it. It was awful, but but yeah, 1:39:45.800 --> 1:39:48.639 she unfortunately passed away and she was only thirty two, 1:39:49.080 --> 1:39:53.880 so good. Yeah, oh, I know, very tragic. But so 1:39:54.040 --> 1:39:58.320 in this film, basically, you know, Carl and Yaya a couple. 1:39:59.080 --> 1:40:02.280 He is clear really try to navigate this relationship where 1:40:02.320 --> 1:40:06.920 she makes more money than him. She is definitely about 1:40:06.920 --> 1:40:10.759 that influencer life. You know, she takes pictures of herself 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:13.760 or the jokes are like so funny, like you know, 1:40:13.840 --> 1:40:16.040 she's in a restaurant pretending to eat pasta. She did 1:40:16.160 --> 1:40:21.040 eat pasta, And it's also wild because of her status 1:40:21.080 --> 1:40:23.120 as a model slash influencer. 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:28.720 They're having this interesting discussion about wealth disparity. Yeah, between them, 1:40:28.880 --> 1:40:31.360 the two of them in their industry and just in 1:40:31.400 --> 1:40:32.559 their personal lives. 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:34.679 And she gets everything for free. 1:40:34.960 --> 1:40:37.559 So her concept of generosity is like, well I gave 1:40:37.600 --> 1:40:39.160 you this shirt, and he's like, you got the shirt 1:40:39.160 --> 1:40:40.680 for free. Well, I took you on this trip. You 1:40:40.760 --> 1:40:43.360 got the trip for free. You're not being as generous 1:40:43.400 --> 1:40:45.719 as you think. Could you make so much more money 1:40:45.800 --> 1:40:49.639 than me that you are never spending yeah. 1:40:49.120 --> 1:40:52.479 And like they have a very uncomfortable conversation at the 1:40:52.479 --> 1:40:55.559 beginning about paying for dinner, you know, where it's obviously 1:40:55.600 --> 1:40:57.240 she makes a lot more money than him, but she 1:40:57.280 --> 1:40:59.320 expects him to pay all the time, and he kind 1:40:59.320 --> 1:41:02.639 of wants, you know, parody between the two of them, 1:41:02.760 --> 1:41:04.639 and she's just kind of like, what, like you gotta 1:41:04.680 --> 1:41:07.639 pay or my boyfriend type of thing. And it just 1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:11.680 really triggers me because I'm like, my whole life has 1:41:11.680 --> 1:41:16.639 been about making my own money. I never want people 1:41:16.640 --> 1:41:18.519 to pay for me. And I think it's just because 1:41:18.560 --> 1:41:23.439 I have this, like, really it's a deep seated self 1:41:23.439 --> 1:41:26.800 sufficiency that sometimes I need to work on. I gotta 1:41:26.920 --> 1:41:29.760 let that shit go. Sometimes you've got to let people 1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:33.200 pay for you. It really it really slightly, you know, 1:41:33.760 --> 1:41:35.920 But in those moments when I watch this film, I'm 1:41:36.000 --> 1:41:39.000 just like, oh God, this is so uncomfortable. Fuck, like, 1:41:39.120 --> 1:41:41.000 get me out of here. I just so that's this 1:41:41.120 --> 1:41:43.559 beginning of the stress. This is when I started getting 1:41:43.560 --> 1:41:45.400 really stressed out about watching this film. Again. 1:41:47.640 --> 1:41:48.679 Was this the text moment? 1:41:49.280 --> 1:41:52.960 No, no, no, The text moment comes, you know, it 1:41:53.040 --> 1:41:56.439 was fairly soon after. So basically, like you alluded to, 1:41:56.840 --> 1:41:59.880 she gets this free cruise on this like luxury yacht, 1:42:00.080 --> 1:42:02.600 you know, and it becomes so the first part is 1:42:02.680 --> 1:42:06.240 kind of about them, you know, sort of navigating their 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:12.200 model influencer relationship, right, which is obviously very ridiculous to normal. 1:42:11.920 --> 1:42:12.680 People like us. 1:42:12.800 --> 1:42:16.439 Right, then it moves onto the boat, and then the 1:42:16.479 --> 1:42:19.800 boat section is it's all kind of contained universe, because 1:42:19.840 --> 1:42:22.479 then it becomes a sort of like you know, you've 1:42:22.479 --> 1:42:24.240 seen it in a below deck. It's kind of like 1:42:24.280 --> 1:42:27.040 an upstairs downstairs type of feeling, right, because you've got 1:42:27.040 --> 1:42:32.800 like the guests who are all rich, wealthy industrialists and 1:42:32.880 --> 1:42:35.400 models and influencers, and then the people who are working 1:42:35.400 --> 1:42:37.680 for them, and then even beyond that, you've got like 1:42:37.760 --> 1:42:42.120 the the top of deck, and then you've got the below, 1:42:42.240 --> 1:42:45.160 the guts, the yeah, you know, which is like you 1:42:45.240 --> 1:42:47.960 got the white, pretty people who are the staff, you know, 1:42:48.040 --> 1:42:50.000 and then you've got the people working below who clean 1:42:50.040 --> 1:42:53.000 toilets and cook and our mechanics. 1:42:52.439 --> 1:42:55.080 And whatnot, and they're all brown people. 1:42:56.000 --> 1:43:01.519 Listen, all Filipinos down there, all Filipinos. And we'll talk 1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:03.880 about a very important one in just a second, but like, 1:43:04.280 --> 1:43:08.080 so basically, you know, you've got this scenario where all 1:43:08.120 --> 1:43:11.559 of these different people of these different social statuses and 1:43:11.760 --> 1:43:15.519 wealth uh statuses are interacting with each other. Right, So 1:43:17.240 --> 1:43:20.000 what ends up happening is you're just really really honed 1:43:20.040 --> 1:43:22.639 in on the ways in which like rich people suck. 1:43:23.160 --> 1:43:24.800 And this is the this is where I started get 1:43:24.880 --> 1:43:28.320 stressed out. Where there's a scene where Karl and Yaya 1:43:28.400 --> 1:43:31.720 are interacting with it's like much older couple. There's an 1:43:31.760 --> 1:43:36.160 older guy who is kind of this like Russian uh 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:38.439 shit salesman as he calls himself. He's kind of like 1:43:38.479 --> 1:43:44.480 an industrialist who sells fertilizer and his wife and his girlfriend. 1:43:44.600 --> 1:43:46.400 I believe that's kind of where he's he's on the 1:43:46.439 --> 1:43:49.040 trip with never explained. 1:43:48.560 --> 1:43:49.720 But completely explicit. 1:43:50.200 --> 1:43:54.200 Yeah. Yeah, So you know, these guy and his his 1:43:54.760 --> 1:43:56.479 you know wife and his girlfriend are kind of hanging 1:43:56.479 --> 1:43:58.960 out in the boat. So there's a scene where I 1:43:59.000 --> 1:44:04.400 guess it's his wife is in the pool, yes, and 1:44:05.160 --> 1:44:08.559 she basically is sitting there while this like young fresh 1:44:08.600 --> 1:44:13.360 faced white girl in her you know, sailor's outfit is 1:44:13.400 --> 1:44:17.439 basically pouring her champagne and this woman is basically like, 1:44:17.960 --> 1:44:19.960 you're so wonderful, get in the pool, and she's like, 1:44:20.080 --> 1:44:23.439 I can't. I'm working, and this woman absolutely insists that 1:44:23.479 --> 1:44:24.280 she gets into. 1:44:24.120 --> 1:44:26.679 The pool well and not take no for an answer. 1:44:26.920 --> 1:44:32.360 This scene is so deeply uncomfortable because you're literally watching 1:44:32.400 --> 1:44:35.960 this girl like trying to, you know, basically do her 1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:40.080 job while this woman is forcing her to do something 1:44:40.640 --> 1:44:44.280 that she feels. Is this like a galitarian statement, like oh, 1:44:44.360 --> 1:44:46.679 we're all one, we can all swim in the pool together. 1:44:46.760 --> 1:44:49.800 And this girl is like, absolutely can't do that, and 1:44:49.840 --> 1:44:52.519 you're making me do it because I'm supposed to be 1:44:52.600 --> 1:44:53.240 serving you. 1:44:53.960 --> 1:44:56.080 I'm supposed to say yes to anything you want. 1:44:56.600 --> 1:45:00.400 Yeah, And then it becomes so ridiculous that this woman, 1:45:00.560 --> 1:45:05.000 this older woman, forces the entire boat to go down 1:45:05.040 --> 1:45:05.839 the water slide. 1:45:07.360 --> 1:45:11.120 It is like a death march watching them go towards 1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:14.320 this slide. If not that part made me stressed out too, 1:45:14.360 --> 1:45:18.479 because I'm like, oh, this is not this is this 1:45:18.520 --> 1:45:21.960 is not enjoyable for anyone. And she's you know this, 1:45:21.960 --> 1:45:26.839 this Russian rich woman is getting some sense of pride 1:45:27.080 --> 1:45:31.439 but also generosity that she is the one who's giving 1:45:31.479 --> 1:45:35.519 these hard working people a day, a moment of fun. 1:45:35.760 --> 1:45:38.479 And I'm like, you're actually fucking dinner, You're fucking the 1:45:38.479 --> 1:45:41.719 whole ship, right, nobody wants to be doing this. You're 1:45:41.840 --> 1:45:44.920 forcing this on people because you have enough money to 1:45:45.040 --> 1:45:46.960 take the kind of trip where nobody can say no 1:45:47.000 --> 1:45:47.200 to you. 1:45:47.560 --> 1:45:50.759 Yeah, Like she thinks that she's liberating all these like poor, 1:45:50.800 --> 1:45:54.160 stressed out, working class people, and really she's just ruining 1:45:54.200 --> 1:45:58.559 people's fucking day. So there's so much of that in 1:45:58.600 --> 1:46:01.720 this film, these like little moments that really kind of 1:46:01.760 --> 1:46:04.160 bring up the questions of like, you know, who has 1:46:04.240 --> 1:46:07.719 power in the scenario, you know, who's subservient to others. 1:46:08.280 --> 1:46:11.599 I won't like go super beat by beat because there's 1:46:11.720 --> 1:46:13.760 again it's a long movie, but I will say that 1:46:13.960 --> 1:46:19.519 eventually there's a event that happens on the boat. I 1:46:19.560 --> 1:46:23.120 think it's probably the what it's known for in terms 1:46:23.160 --> 1:46:25.800 of its notoriety of the film, because it's like, you know, 1:46:26.120 --> 1:46:30.400 it involves you know, puking. Let's just say that. But 1:46:30.560 --> 1:46:36.560 basically the boat ends up for several different reasons basically 1:46:37.920 --> 1:46:38.519 well I don't. 1:46:38.360 --> 1:46:41.360 Know, like sole compromised, I don't know. 1:46:41.400 --> 1:46:45.160 It just the whole apparatus gets shut down and it 1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:49.080 forces the third section, where it's essentially kind of like 1:46:49.200 --> 1:46:52.879 Survivor or Lost, where it moves on to like an 1:46:53.000 --> 1:46:57.360 island where there are some members of the boat who 1:46:57.520 --> 1:46:59.640 have washed up on this island and now they have 1:46:59.680 --> 1:47:03.640 to kind of exist together while they wait to be rescued. 1:47:04.360 --> 1:47:07.280 And this is where I think I mean the message 1:47:07.400 --> 1:47:14.960 of how a crisis in environment like the ways in 1:47:15.040 --> 1:47:20.840 which the playing field gets completely leveled class wise, when 1:47:20.880 --> 1:47:23.080 you are at a survival scenario. 1:47:23.040 --> 1:47:26.719 Right, your money doesn't matter, Yes, when it becomes clear 1:47:26.760 --> 1:47:30.839 that money will not save you right, anything right. 1:47:30.880 --> 1:47:35.480 And as it regularly is, the people of the underclass, 1:47:35.520 --> 1:47:40.040 the working class, the poor have the survival skills and 1:47:40.080 --> 1:47:44.439 these rich focks don't have them. Right, absolutely, So there's 1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:52.920 this inversion that happens where this Philipeda salute named Abigail, 1:47:53.200 --> 1:47:55.680 who is played by the actress Dolly de Leon. She 1:47:55.760 --> 1:47:58.760 got a lot of praise for this role when she 1:47:58.880 --> 1:48:02.720 was in it. She was the former toilet manager on 1:48:02.800 --> 1:48:07.160 the yacht and now she's the captain. And when I 1:48:07.320 --> 1:48:12.760 tell you the scene where she cooks the octopus, there's 1:48:12.800 --> 1:48:18.000 a she catches an octopus with her bare fucking hands, 1:48:18.040 --> 1:48:21.280 just like a fucking Filipino. Auntie Wood, by the way, 1:48:21.720 --> 1:48:26.120 like love love that part. She comes back, she cooks 1:48:26.280 --> 1:48:27.360 the octopus. 1:48:27.600 --> 1:48:28.639 She stops fire. 1:48:29.120 --> 1:48:31.280 Oh yeah, she's just and then she's like, all right, 1:48:31.320 --> 1:48:32.800 you get a piece, you get a piece, you get 1:48:32.800 --> 1:48:36.320 a piece. This is for me. And everyone's like what, 1:48:36.400 --> 1:48:38.639 You're not gonna And then you know, her former boss, 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:40.640 who was kind of like, I don't know, the like 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:42.920 entertainment director on the boat, is like trying to tell 1:48:42.920 --> 1:48:45.439 her what to do, and she's like, uh uh not here, 1:48:46.040 --> 1:48:48.599 you are not my boss. Here, I'm the captain. And 1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:50.960 she just walks around. It's like she's like looking at everybody. 1:48:51.000 --> 1:48:53.400 She's like, who am I? And they're like the captain 1:48:53.400 --> 1:48:57.080 and she throws some piece of I swear I stood 1:48:57.160 --> 1:49:00.680 up and clapped in the theater. I stood. It was like, 1:49:02.680 --> 1:49:04.000 this is what I want to see. I want to 1:49:04.040 --> 1:49:08.560 see a philippin, a middle aged Filipino woman weaponizing octopus 1:49:08.640 --> 1:49:11.960 and pretzel sticks. This is what I want out of entertainment. 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:17.960 Oh good period. And but to that point it gets 1:49:18.000 --> 1:49:21.519 further complicated because that's the kind of constant conversation in 1:49:21.560 --> 1:49:26.000 the film. Is that what happens when the power changes, right, 1:49:26.200 --> 1:49:29.240 Because then it becomes this thing where Albigail is now 1:49:29.439 --> 1:49:32.240 the most powerful person on the island. How does she 1:49:32.479 --> 1:49:38.360 navigate that new role sometimes questionably, and it involves you know, 1:49:39.520 --> 1:49:49.360 Carl essentially where his status changes absolutely. And it's just 1:49:49.479 --> 1:49:52.760 such a fascinating film in that way, because again, it 1:49:52.840 --> 1:49:56.559 is doing a lot, it is saying a lot, it's 1:49:56.640 --> 1:50:00.559 creating little pockets of thought in terms of how we 1:50:00.600 --> 1:50:03.759 think about wealth and power and this kind of stuff. 1:50:04.000 --> 1:50:06.320 And I don't know, Like, like I said, I think 1:50:06.320 --> 1:50:09.200 a lot of people when they watch this movie were like, oh, 1:50:09.280 --> 1:50:12.840 how obvious. Yes, we get it. Rich people are bad. 1:50:12.880 --> 1:50:15.200 I'm like, I'll take it. I will at this point. 1:50:15.360 --> 1:50:18.559 And that's not the only commentary that the film is giving. Again, 1:50:18.640 --> 1:50:21.840 it's a real rich it's a very rich text that 1:50:21.880 --> 1:50:25.000 looks at the dynamics of class and power. 1:50:25.720 --> 1:50:27.639 And it's not just rich people are bad. 1:50:27.760 --> 1:50:29.839 It's look at all the ways that we are complicit 1:50:29.880 --> 1:50:31.680 in this world, Look at all the ways that we 1:50:31.760 --> 1:50:33.639 aspire to this, Look at all the ways that this 1:50:33.720 --> 1:50:36.360 is destructive to us, look at all the ways that 1:50:36.439 --> 1:50:38.400 this is You know that you can have someone who's 1:50:38.439 --> 1:50:41.800 doing objectionably horrible things in the world, like they are 1:50:42.040 --> 1:50:47.080 grenade manufacturers, Yeah, trying to present themselves as if they 1:50:47.080 --> 1:50:50.320 are saviors in some way, Like I think it's so much, 1:50:50.360 --> 1:50:52.840 it goes so much beyond rich people are terrible that 1:50:52.880 --> 1:50:55.479 if that's your takeaway from this movie, I don't know 1:50:55.520 --> 1:50:57.000 if we watch the same film. 1:50:57.360 --> 1:51:01.920 Well, yeah, I agree, and like, honestly like the thing 1:51:02.000 --> 1:51:04.280 that unites our movies this week, and part of the 1:51:04.320 --> 1:51:06.960 reason why I felt like it was so stressful is 1:51:07.000 --> 1:51:10.800 the ways in which poor people have a desperation in 1:51:10.840 --> 1:51:14.479 their lives that rich people just don't like. People who 1:51:14.479 --> 1:51:19.920 are extremely wealthy have no idea what it's like to 1:51:20.080 --> 1:51:23.599 be not on top. They just don't have the skill set, 1:51:23.640 --> 1:51:28.200 they don't have the understanding. And the problem really becomes 1:51:28.240 --> 1:51:33.200 when we're all subject to this dynamic, right because we're 1:51:33.240 --> 1:51:37.639 all infighting. We're all infighting trying to get on their level. 1:51:38.400 --> 1:51:42.040 There's also this message in the film, this subtext in 1:51:42.080 --> 1:51:45.400 the film, I will say, which is about equality and 1:51:45.800 --> 1:51:48.080 how in several points in the film and the modeling 1:51:48.120 --> 1:51:51.599 on the yacht and beyond, there's this notion of the 1:51:51.640 --> 1:51:55.679 most rich and powerful people insisting that everyone is equal 1:51:55.840 --> 1:51:58.640 in this world. Yeah, and the lie that you have 1:51:58.680 --> 1:52:02.000 to tell yourself to believe that is astounding. Yeah, Like, 1:52:02.080 --> 1:52:04.719 while you are enacting all of these privileges of wealth 1:52:05.200 --> 1:52:08.760 and power and insisting that we are equal, which is 1:52:08.800 --> 1:52:12.760 what keeps us fighting with each other right instead of them. 1:52:13.360 --> 1:52:17.519 Is this revelation that you or this notion that well, 1:52:17.520 --> 1:52:19.040 we're not too different from each other. 1:52:19.080 --> 1:52:21.960 You could become me, I could become you, And it's 1:52:22.040 --> 1:52:22.559 not true. 1:52:22.640 --> 1:52:25.320 You are closer to being poor and on the street 1:52:25.360 --> 1:52:27.600 than you will ever be to being a millionaire or 1:52:27.640 --> 1:52:28.320 a billionaire. 1:52:28.840 --> 1:52:32.080 If burken bags make you actually happy, like if you 1:52:32.160 --> 1:52:34.080 go to bed every night thinking about your broken bag 1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:35.519 and being like, man, I'm so glad to have that back. 1:52:35.560 --> 1:52:39.320 It's really great. Quality holds all my things, It's beautiful. 1:52:39.760 --> 1:52:40.920 I love it. 1:52:41.080 --> 1:52:41.640 Fine. 1:52:41.880 --> 1:52:44.679 It's more just about the promotion of this like fucking 1:52:44.960 --> 1:52:48.840 rich lifestyle on you know, social media, and like, you know, 1:52:49.880 --> 1:52:52.080 just basically the flex of it. The flex of it 1:52:52.160 --> 1:52:55.280 is what makes people feel like shit. And there are 1:52:55.320 --> 1:52:58.840 people who are just literally like making money, being able 1:52:58.880 --> 1:53:02.120 to flex wealth. And then that's what's I feel like, 1:53:02.200 --> 1:53:04.840 at least, you know, you know my take of it, 1:53:04.840 --> 1:53:09.280 it's it's creating the weird moment of being like loving 1:53:09.400 --> 1:53:11.840 rich people and wanting to see the kind of shit 1:53:11.920 --> 1:53:15.040 that they own, and then hating them and wishing you know, 1:53:15.240 --> 1:53:16.280 it was different. I don't know. 1:53:16.720 --> 1:53:19.519 It's a losing game of thoughts. Yeah, it's a losing game. 1:53:19.920 --> 1:53:20.120 Yeah. 1:53:20.160 --> 1:53:22.880 One thing that's that's stunning to me about the four 1:53:22.960 --> 1:53:25.320 years we've been doing this podcast is that apparently I'm 1:53:25.320 --> 1:53:27.639 a socialist, who. 1:53:27.479 --> 1:53:28.639 Are Marx's queen? 1:53:28.880 --> 1:53:29.080 Right? 1:53:29.600 --> 1:53:31.600 Apparently apparently. 1:53:32.200 --> 1:53:34.559 Look, I I'm here for it all day, every day. 1:53:34.720 --> 1:53:37.400 I mean, you know, I got that fucking I got 1:53:37.400 --> 1:53:39.200 that punk fire in me too, you know. 1:53:39.640 --> 1:53:43.479 But what a fucking great week, what a week? Stoke 1:53:43.600 --> 1:53:44.120 that fire? 1:53:44.760 --> 1:53:47.280 Okay, I know it's like, you know, we're on the 1:53:47.280 --> 1:53:48.960 final stretch here of the podcast. 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