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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 3: I'm Daniel Henderson, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we're here with y'all. Last couple laps.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling feeling good?

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Speaker 4: I'm very dark today. I'm in a closet recording. Oh

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Speaker 4: at my new place. So hopeful that your bedroom, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but hopefully. This just sounds like a voice from the dark.

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Speaker 4: I'm like ragged sounding today. I didn't even do anything

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Speaker 4: fun last night. You're hungover, but I didn't do anything

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Speaker 4: fun last night.

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Speaker 2: Big reveal, I'm hungover today.

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Speaker 1: You look like you You look like you were in

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Speaker 1: you were This is like a movie about you having

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Speaker 1: an extramarital fair, and it's like the morning after where

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Speaker 1: you've been processed saying like what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: Like are we going to tell the husband? Or you know,

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Speaker 2: like the soft betting.

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Speaker 3: There's like a soft.

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Speaker 1: Betting behind you and you're kind of like front. It's

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Speaker 1: like front of camera, So.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna reveal all And the answer is yes, Fuck everybody,

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Speaker 4: I'm kidding.

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we it looks like we've both had

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Speaker 2: a night.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what I mean that I had an

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Speaker 4: old person night of just ragged sleep and now my

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Speaker 4: glasses are fogging up on the bottom, yeah, which means

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Speaker 4: like my face is really hot for some reason. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: we both were both in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I decided to go out last night, very

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Speaker 1: last minute. I had, actually I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: responsibilities that I needed to attend to, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I should just stay home and like, you know, prepare

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Speaker 1: for things that I'm doing, and you know, like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, just get the like get the week started early,

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Speaker 1: which is so sad because it's like, I don't know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: anytime I use like a weekend to prepare for the

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Speaker 1: next week, it makes me want.

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Speaker 3: To I know, I'm alive myself, you know, I know,

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Speaker 3: so I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, God, what is my life? But then at the

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Speaker 1: last minute I decided to go out because I'm friends

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Speaker 1: of mine were like where are you?

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Speaker 3: Where are you? Which is.

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Speaker 1: I cave to that very quickly.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you do.

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Speaker 1: If somebody calls and is like where are you at?

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Speaker 3: Where are you at?

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Speaker 1: How come you're not here? I bet you you don't

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Speaker 1: leave the house. I bet you just stay like a

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Speaker 1: normal life stay.

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Speaker 4: If someone is like, where are you at, it's usually

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Speaker 4: nighttime and I'm usually I'm ready for bed at six pm.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say that, like, you got to get me

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Speaker 4: early in the day if you want me to go

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Speaker 4: out at night, if you want to like where you're at?

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Speaker 3: Where you at?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm I'm where I'm supposed to be. I'm home, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and ready for bed. My night routine is done, the

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Speaker 4: retainer is in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know that's that's country Danielle. City Danielle

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Speaker 4: might be a different person. If someone's like where you

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Speaker 4: at it, you know, eight o'clock, I might be able

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Speaker 4: to rally, but usually I stay home because I live

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Speaker 4: in the woods.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and this is the thing too, is so like

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Speaker 1: I just I think I'm just very you know, I

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of fomo in me. Where somebody's

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Speaker 1: like where are you?

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Speaker 2: You're missing the greatest type of old type.

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Speaker 1: And if especially if it's like multiple people, like if

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Speaker 1: it's multiple friends at the same thing and they'll text you,

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Speaker 1: I get so I'm like, fine, I'll just fucking get

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Speaker 1: out of my pajamas. But I will say this, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't now. I just kind of go as is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not wearing pajamas, but I'm also like not putting

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it was funny because in my twenties I was

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Speaker 1: always like out and I would see sometimes a middle

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Speaker 1: guys in like their car heart outfits, like I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they just came from work or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: I know why.

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Speaker 3: Because their friends dragged them out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had fomo as a middle aged person decided

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Speaker 1: to just go out because they wanted to experience whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. But they didn't want to get ready or anything.

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Speaker 1: They were just like I'm just gonna wear my fucking

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Speaker 1: sweatsuit and have not coat my hair. I'll maybe brush

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Speaker 1: my teeth, but that's about it. I'm not doing anything else.

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Speaker 3: You got me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I rolled out last night like no no makeup,

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Speaker 1: Like I just was like I put some lipstick on,

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Speaker 1: no makeup. I put on a wool cap I look

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Speaker 1: like Mike Nestsmith from The Monkeys just was like whatever,

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Speaker 1: and I was like rolling around like and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those nights too, where you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a it's a fall evening in Atlanta. Everybody's out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Like there's like a dude.

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Speaker 1: In, you know, like a Michael Myers mass like shredding

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Speaker 1: on a guitar with his ant like on the corner

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Speaker 1: on the street. Corner there's like people making out on

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Speaker 1: the street, puking in the street.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love this for Atlanta. I know.

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Speaker 1: No, it's East Atlanta Village, which it's I think we've

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Speaker 1: been there, like East Atlanta Village. And I'm not just

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Speaker 1: saying this because I'm an East Atlanta gal. Is like

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Speaker 1: if a Bourbon Street was punk rock, Like it's nice.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely a mess. It's a mess, but the

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Speaker 1: people that go there are cool as fuck, if that

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Speaker 3: So it's not like fucking perfect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like truly kind of perfect, and it's

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Speaker 1: like super rough around the edges, like, but it's like

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Speaker 1: the cool like it's it's this like beautiful mix of

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Speaker 1: no frat boys.

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Speaker 4: If you have a corner of your city where you

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Speaker 4: can go out and if you're a drinker, if you

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Speaker 4: can drink or just hang out with your friends, and

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Speaker 4: it hasn't been infiltrated by a frat boye that keep

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Speaker 4: it protected, gate, keep it, lock it down. That is

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Speaker 4: the pinnacle of wonder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's because because it retains a

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Speaker 1: little bit of its crime. But like all the bars

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Speaker 1: in that neighborhood are like kind of punk rock, heavy

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Speaker 1: metal bars. There's like a lot of black clubs down there.

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Speaker 1: There's you know, obviously Mary's, There's you know, a bunch

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Speaker 1: of places to see concerts. So it's just like cool neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: And then when it gets like lit, like when the

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Speaker 1: magic the alchemy of the of the fall night happens,

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Speaker 1: and it gets just insane. It really feels like anarchy,

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Speaker 1: but in the best way.

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Speaker 3: That is my favorite.

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Speaker 4: I've only experienced it a few times, but that is

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Speaker 4: my absolute favorite kind of night out.

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Speaker 3: And I bet you looked cool as shit.

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Speaker 4: And I say this not just because I know that's

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Speaker 4: true that you look cool as shit, but I have

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Speaker 4: to believe that anyone who is comfortable, looks great, because

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Speaker 4: that is my entire m o.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm to the point where, while I'm here in La,

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Speaker 4: I'm considering hiring a friend of mine who's incredibly stylish

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Speaker 4: to like teach me how to be a person again,

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Speaker 4: Like how do I how do I dress to look nice?

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Speaker 4: And I've never known how to put on makeup, so

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Speaker 4: I might ask her to help me learn how to

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Speaker 4: put on makeup because I just feel like, all right, girl,

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Speaker 4: your forty evan. You don't have to change who you are,

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Speaker 4: but if you would like to look more awake when

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Speaker 4: you leave the house, there are ways that you can

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just gonna tell you lipstick that's really

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Speaker 1: the only thing you need. Honestly, that's like that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing right now. I have nothing on my face

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Speaker 1: except for lipstick. Really, oh yeah right, it's like the

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just like, oh, I'm up for the day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, it really is the secret.

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Speaker 2: Sauce and European woman for generations have believed this.

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Speaker 1: So and you have perfect skin, so it's like, just

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Speaker 1: wear a little lipstick and you're fine. And it's not

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Speaker 1: even about now vanity or anything. It's just a no,

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Speaker 1: it's just even a bomb, like a bomb just to.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna i'll I'm gonna dig back in a little

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Speaker 4: bit of You might see me at an Alta or

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Speaker 4: a Sephora around these parts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You should look at your nipple and find out what

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Speaker 1: your perfect nude shade is? What?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like how you find out what?

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Speaker 3: Ww do people just know this shit? What are you

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm awfully looking at my nips, but for lipstick.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's like this whole They say that the

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Speaker 1: perfect nude shade or the perfect lip color for your

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Speaker 4: See now, the deftly know so much about people out

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Speaker 4: in these streets, like everyone I meet. Now I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: be like, so that's what your nips look like. I

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Speaker 4: don't hear any of this shit.

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Speaker 3: I miss all of the.

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Speaker 2: Is it or is it?

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Speaker 3: You'll never know, boys, you'll never know.

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Speaker 4: I love when when people wear bright red lipstick. I'll

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Speaker 4: be like, all right, there's some issues going on.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes I go for that like I used to

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Speaker 1: there was like a period of like nine months where

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Speaker 1: I wore only hot pink lipstick and people I used

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Speaker 1: to get complimented all the time. But then I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that just felt like a moment and

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's a long term look for me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, listen, I'm always gonna advocate for if

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Speaker 1: you just want to you know, a little a little

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Speaker 1: feel good, you know, just throw it in there. It's

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Speaker 1: not no commitments, but honestly, like being comfortable going out

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Speaker 1: is absolutely crucial, totally everyone.

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Speaker 3: Who, everyone who looks who.

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Speaker 4: I remember when I used to go out who I

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Speaker 4: was like, wow, they look fucking great, effortless, comfortably cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think so too. And like I I

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Speaker 1: think it's because of when I was young and I

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Speaker 1: That is the thing that's so hard to figure out

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But like, the thing that I have to remember

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Speaker 4: So it was I just I it was definitely a

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Speaker 3: It felt great.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like the fucking like Smooth Criminal by

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson plays.

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Speaker 2: Doom Doom, Do do.

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Speaker 1: That's you?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you did have something else that you want

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Speaker 1: Well this will glie gently into another round of serial killers.

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Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, it's probably our last round.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe oh my done one of these you fail.

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Speaker 4: Since I failed fucking miserably because I hadn't hung out

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Speaker 1: You were like, this is a fucking betrayal, and I'm like.

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Speaker 5: Man, crumple our relationship for Jesus, No, it was it

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Speaker 4: But like that was the true betrayal. Everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: your chernobyl answer was the betrayal. No, the true betrayal

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Speaker 4: of serial Killer or Self Care.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know we throw surprises at each other. We

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Speaker 1: can't know each other completely, right. You gotta keep a

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Speaker 3: You know all about a mystery.

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Speaker 4: I'm angling towards becoming more mysterious as I get older.

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, you're already again, like you just said, fucking

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Speaker 1: I think you're doing a good job.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there's five five of these.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for five?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready. I got my coffee, I've got water.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, I'm ready hydrate.

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Speaker 3: I am treating this like a sport.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So maybe some of this won't make sense, but

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Speaker 1: I don't care a fuck. We're ending the podcast Son

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Speaker 1: Cares serial Killer Yourself Care question one googling liquor while

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Speaker 3: Okay, for you self care?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely correct?

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Speaker 3: For me?

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Speaker 4: Serial killer move that person is looking how to poison

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's my because you know, people get there's like

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. Fuck you, Like we're all just you

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Speaker 1: No, no, there are no None of my friends were

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Speaker 1: unclear about what is even what like the difference between

442
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: bourbon and whiskey and cognognac. How do you I don't

443
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: even know how to say cognac.

444
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 2: How do you saying.

445
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: Konnac connac konyak?

446
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: Fuck? I don't even know how to say that. So

447
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: that's to that point. So the other night I went

448
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: to the Hawks game. Oh, season opener of the Hawks.

449
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: No big deal, we won, okay, my boys, my boys

450
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: or my boys. So we go to the Hawks game.

451
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with you know, we're in this big

452
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: group and I'm hanging out with one of my friends's

453
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: brothers who was in town or whatever. And we go

454
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: to the bar and this woman who who's the bartender,

455
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: was like, do you want to put a couple of

456
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: shots in this lemonade? It's like frozen lemonade. And I

457
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: was like, do people do that? And She's just like yeah,

458
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: and uh he goes. My friend's brother goes, why do

459
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: you pour some Hennessy in there? And I was like,

460
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: I certainly heard of Hennessy because I like rap music,

461
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: but do I even know what Hennessy actually is? So

462
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: I turned, I turned to you know, the side, and

463
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: googled Hennessy because I was like, I'm even not clear

464
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 1: what hennessy is.

465
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 4: Ah, I am surprised I didn't get you kicked out

466
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: of Atlanta.

467
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: Well, I'm like, that is to your point. So then

468
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: my other friend walks up and she sees my open

469
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: browser on my phone with like Hennesite, and she goes,

470
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: did you just google Hennessy at the bar? And I

471
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I did, because I don't know what

472
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: the fuck Hennessy actually is.

473
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: So there you go. I'm gonna admit that to everybody.

474
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

475
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 3: We're so overwhelmed. Koyak coniac kyak Crown Royal, Hennessy, fucking cognacs.

476
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: Okay, you know how many times had drank Crown in

477
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: high school?

478
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what it was.

479
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: This is the thing.

480
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 4: Your commitment to ordering a drink depends on when you

481
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: were what era you were born in, We did not

482
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 4: have brands. Yeah, when we started drinking, it was the drink,

483
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: like I want a tequila and soda, I want this,

484
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: I want and it was basic shit.

485
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: When fucking cocktail.

486
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 4: Came out, we were young, we were in our you know,

487
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 4: ten eleven years old, but yeah, we were floored that

488
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: somebody could flip that cup around and not just pour

489
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: it directly into the fucking glass. Like, we came up

490
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 4: in a way that was not brand related. So now

491
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 4: when people are like I want cosamigos, and I'm like,

492
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 4: why do you want George Clooney specifically to give you tequila?

493
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: Because I know that all tequi it comes from the

494
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 4: same fucking area of Mexico. It's only one plant, yeah

495
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 4: and every but so they just put their name on

496
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: it and now it's a different liquor to you, Like

497
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: what is happening? Yeah, I'm with you there, and there's

498
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: so many fucking celebrity brands and.

499
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I can't do it.

500
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: I want I don't want to put lemonade in a

501
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: drink and it's this. I'm the same way with coffee

502
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 4: where I'm like get it to me straight, like do

503
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: not You don't have to fancy it up if my

504
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: goal is to get fucking rocked.

505
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm like, and I I appreciate people who

506
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: are very knowledgeable about it. Yeah, Like I'm like, hey,

507
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you're into whiskey and you got like

508
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: crazy opinions on it, that's fascinating to me.

509
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: Tell me more about passion or whatever.

510
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: But like, I'm also trying to be a real person

511
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: at Like, I'm like, I don't know. I simply do

512
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: not know. You don't mess call. That's not a thing

513
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: that existed when we were in high school.

514
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 2: Like, I had never heard of mess call. Into moved

515
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: to LA and I.

516
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: Was basically like, oh, I guess people fucking with mescal

517
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: is kind of like a tequila I suppose, but I

518
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: never heard of that shit until. I Mean, that's the

519
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: thing is that, like the it's gotten so complex that

520
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: my you know, high school brain has to like catch up.

521
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm googling head to see at the fucking.

522
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: Barn self care, I'm with you.

523
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay, just try to educate myself. Do not

524
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: embarrass me exactly. Okay, So you got one right, ting

525
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: ting ting all right? There were more serial killer is

526
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: self care? Not paying people for working your events?

527
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: That is a serial killer move.

528
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: Hell yeah it is, and you know it is, and

529
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: you know who you are.

530
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: Serial killers, murderers.

531
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 4: No hesitation, you're a serial killer. Someone's doing anything for

532
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: you pay them.

533
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: Yo.

534
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: It's like.

535
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: We got a problem. There are so many people who

536
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: are out here being like, hey, will you DJ my

537
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: work party? Will you you know, come and host a

538
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: thing for my job in front of people? This is

539
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: public facing shit. You always us to shit, and you're

540
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: not paying people to do that in any kind of way.

541
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: Like no, you don't even give me one hundred dollars

542
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: gift card to Applebee's nothing.

543
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: No, that is no longer the move we put a

544
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: I say we, but I think that's actually a gen

545
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 4: z possibly millennial move where they're like, we're not doing

546
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 4: unpaid internships anymore. Like high five to them for being like,

547
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: uh no, my time is valuable, you got to pay me.

548
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: They shifted the tide.

549
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: So if you are still out here not paying people

550
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: to work your event, not only are you revealing how

551
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: old you are in your heart, but you have no

552
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: there's no conscience, Like there has to be something that

553
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: pay doesn't always have to be financial. It should be

554
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: it should be financial, but like you said, you have

555
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: to offer something.

556
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will make this distinction as well, because

557
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: it's like they're also okay, I think it's deplorable that

558
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go work for somebody and you're doing

559
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: like physical labor, right, if you're like cleaning dishes, if

560
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: you're organizing, if you're doing stuff you that is a

561
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: payd job period like that is Yeah, if you're not

562
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: paying people to do that, then you're an absolute monster.

563
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: But then there's this type of job where it's like, oh,

564
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: it's forward facing like that. It's like something where they can,

565
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, be in front of people, and.

566
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the reward. Like the reward is me standing.

567
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: In front of people and like talking about whatever, like

568
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: a movie or you know, some kind of concept or

569
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: like a DJ thing or something like that, playing albums.

570
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is that not a job to you?

571
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Why why do you think that, especially somebody at my

572
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: age and my level of the game or whatever. I'm like, right,

573
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: you think it's easy for me to like constantly just

574
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: go in public and talk and like I gotta you know,

575
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: it's like, as much as I am kind of okay

576
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: with being a public speaker, but it's like it still

577
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: takes a lot for me to prepare, for me to

578
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: figure out what my nipple color is so I can

579
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: wear the corresponding lipstick, so I could like do my hair,

580
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: take off my car hard, put on a fucking church dress,

581
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: like whatever. It is, Like that is part of it.

582
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: That's part of the labor of this thing.

583
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: And I find that.

584
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: People really don't pay for that shit around here, especially

585
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta. They're not really doing in LA, but

586
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: they were doing like they don't pay for that here,

587
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: and I'm just kind of like, you know what, Like

588
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: that's work.

589
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: So I will say simply as simply as possible. My

590
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: life and career changed when I started saying no to

591
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 4: things that people wanted me to do for free.

592
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, just say no.

593
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 4: I'm not even going to get into it about like

594
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: you're not paying me, why don't you pay? Nope, I

595
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: ain't doing it. If you want me, my time is

596
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: worth something. If you want to ask, oh, would you

597
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: consider doing it if we pay, Yeah, then we can have.

598
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: A negotiation, we can talk.

599
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, But if you just flat out come at me

600
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: with do this thing for free?

601
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: Nope?

602
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: Right, And if you're a for profit business, like I mean,

603
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: if you're a nonprofit, you know, if it's a charity thing,

604
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: of course, what the fuck course do that all day

605
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: every day.

606
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: But if they're very heavy.

607
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: Money for your business and you're not paying people for things, man,

608
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: come on, like.

609
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: Oh, they just have me all the time when I

610
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: was a freelance writer, like, oh, you can do this

611
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: for the exposure, And I'm like you, mam, are l

612
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: magazine like someone getting paid.

613
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't doing nothing for the exposure.

614
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I just had to throw that in there.

615
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: I knew you would agree with me, so you got

616
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: that one right too. Oh my god.

617
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: I will never charge to do an event that involves charity, children, libraries,

618
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: things like that. But the rest of all, I better

619
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: come with something. Even if I just donate the money,

620
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: you better come with something.

621
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, a shrink wrapped gift basket goes a long way.

622
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: I'll just throw that out there. Okay, So two for two.

623
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Third or self care question scheduling a meeting while you're

624
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: currently in a meeting.

625
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: That's a fucking serial killer all around, Ding ding ding ding.

626
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: That is absolutely right. Oh my god, gotta tell you.

627
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: One of my biggest pet peeves in the world is

628
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: being in a meeting with somebody and then there's.

629
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's like ping ping pong.

630
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: And then you're like, what you just scheduled another meeting

631
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: with me as you're talking to me right now.

632
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: No, that is that is pure psychosis. That is that

633
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: is someone who's had too much of the sauce, the

634
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: corporate sauce. Because my real party line is there are

635
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: too many meetings.

636
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, one hundred percent there are.

637
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be meeting with people more than depending on

638
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: the job, but more than once a week.

639
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: I have to agree with you. I feel like there

640
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: we're in an epidemic of too many meetings. And I

641
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because there's this perceived like disconnection

642
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: feeling from COVID that is kind of still happening where

643
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: people are like many people are working from home. Still,

644
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: there's people spread out around the world. We got to

645
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: over compensate for it by having meeting after meeting after meeting,

646
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: because otherwise we'll just drift away into you know, unproductiveness.

647
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: And I'm like, nah, bitch, the fucking meeting sometimes is

648
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: the problem? Like nothing is getting done A lot of times, Yes,

649
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: it's just talking to talk, And I'm like, there's like

650
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: just because we're not meeting every day about something does

651
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: not mean that people aren't working. And I just feel

652
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: like sometimes the meeting is just the pump and circumstance

653
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: that needs to get kicked out the door.

654
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 4: Well, there's also there seems to me to be a

655
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: new layer of the corporate structure. And I don't know

656
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: when it happened, when it came in. I've seen it

657
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: become more prevalent over the last like five years, I'll say,

658
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: but there's a new level where on this level, the

659
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: person's job is to justify having their job. Yeah, so

660
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: they are setting meetings all the time so that it

661
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: looks like they're doing their job or that is the

662
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: job or whatever. There just seems to be this new

663
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: layer of like my job is to prove that I'm

664
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: doing my job.

665
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't need it. I think what makes me.

666
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 4: Probably a great boss, because I have been told by

667
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: some writers and I'm like the best boss they've had,

668
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: or like it's the best room they've been in, is

669
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: because I hire the best people possible, and then I

670
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: let them do their fucking job. Yes, I'm available to

671
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: you for questions, failable to check in. I will let

672
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: you do your fucking job. We will have a meeting

673
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: if there is something that I need ten people to

674
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: know at once. Otherwise it's an email like what are

675
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: we doing? Yeah, hire the best people, let them do

676
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: their fucking job.

677
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree. That's the best kind of boss to

678
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: have is somebody who kind of just leaves you alone.

679
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: I I haven't been a boss very rarely in my life.

680
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: Like I think I was a boss when I was

681
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: in my twenties.

682
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Actually, like I think my one of my first like

683
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: jobs out of undergrad I worked at a marketing research

684
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: firm and I was technically like a supervisor or like

685
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: a keyholder or something like that.

686
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: But I never want to be in one's boss.

687
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you what to do. I

688
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: don't want to be responsible for your life. I don't

689
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: want you to clock, you know, hours with me. I

690
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: don't want to give you goals, none of that. I

691
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: just want us to all be like free floating, you know,

692
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: we can all It's like a a socialist dream of

693
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: everybody's in charge.

694
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: And we just kind of figure things out, you know,

695
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: in that way.

696
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: I know it's a dream, but I'm just saying I

697
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want a boss, and I don't

698
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: want to be anybody's boss because of this, because of

699
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: the weird kind of like communication styles, like trying to

700
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: figure out like what best way of you know, being

701
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: in touches, and some people do it too little, and

702
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: then some people do it too much, you know, so

703
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: it's like finding a balance is probably the key. But

704
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: it's like man meetings.

705
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Also, I gotta say, I love being a boss.

706
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 4: And if you are a boss and you're like experiencing

707
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: some of this and you want to stop having all

708
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: these meetings and feeling like this, I'll see. I will

709
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: also just offer this unsolicited advice. Ask people how they

710
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: like to communicate before you when you're interviewing them, how

711
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: do you like to communicate you if we have a

712
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: pressing need, like you know, would you text me, would

713
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: you call me?

714
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: Would you say a meeting?

715
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: You know, ask them how they like to communicate, make

716
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: a note of it, and then do that.

717
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: Like that's truly all it takes.

718
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: If I tell you, like, look, I just need you

719
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: to be available that if I have a question, I

720
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: can get it answered within three hours.

721
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: Done.

722
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's it. Like it's so hard too,

723
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: as you know, like I said, I just said I

724
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a boss, but it is hard

725
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: to know because there's certain people that really really need

726
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot of feedback and really need to be handheld

727
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: and they want that and so and sometimes those people

728
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: will pretend to not need that and then you figure

729
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: it out much later or advice ors. You know, I

730
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: get that it's hard to figure it out, but but yeah,

731
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a good plan, is to just sort

732
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: of check in with people. And I would say, check

733
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: in with people like not just in the interview, but

734
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: after they've been hired, and give them some time to

735
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: settle in and be like, all right, so what's your

736
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: vibe now? You want to hear from me?

737
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: You don't you don't want me to use your personal

738
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: phone number, duly noted.

739
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: You don't to ever use your phone at all. You

740
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 4: let me just just email. That's fine, that's fine.

741
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: All this is to say, you got another one, right,

742
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: Yes I did.

743
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: And you know that that's serial killer.

744
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: Move Okay. Question four, We're almost done. Question four Serial

745
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: Killer self care, being cringe self care absolutely correct.

746
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Ah, do not give a fuck about being cringe.

747
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: Cringe doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. I mean, cringes is

748
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: only our friend.

749
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: Sarah Brown's former diary reading series that she wrote a

750
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: fantastic book about in two different countries. That's what cringe

751
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: is to me, Sarah Brown, Cringe.

752
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: Look it up.

753
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: Otherwise it does not exist. I'm not going to I'm

754
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: not going to absorb this cultural notion that I should

755
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: be upset about everything I do.

756
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: Fuck off, and then at a certain age you are

757
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: just cringe and you gotta let it go. Yeah, like period,

758
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: point blank. No.

759
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing is that like.

760
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: You.

761
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: To me, I refuse to be like you can tell

762
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: me that I'm cringe, and I'm talking to you kids,

763
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: right because you're you're the people that I'm mostly addressing

764
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: in this Calling me cringe you know about some shit, fine,

765
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: but I reject it. I do not listen to it.

766
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: I do not give a shit. It doesn't exist. Like

767
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: I am who I am.

768
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: Cringe to me is just somebody saying I'm uncomfortable with

769
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: how little you give a shit about this. Yeah, and

770
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: you're never going to make me give a shit about

771
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 4: something I fundamentally don't give a shit about.

772
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 3: And that could be the way I look, the way

773
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: I talk.

774
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: If I'm not harming someone actively fuck off, cringe doesn't exist.

775
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like it's it's just another word for

776
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: being uncool.

777
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like.

778
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: I at a certain age that literally never enters my mind,

779
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: Like it never enters my mind to be to be cool,

780
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: to walk out of the house and be cool. You

781
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: know so.

782
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: Well.

783
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: No, I haven't thought about it since I was a

784
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: fucking teenager.

785
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you got that right your fourth floor.

786
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: Are you ready for the last one?

787
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Potentially the hardest?

788
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 3: Oh god, this is so tense because I've been doing

789
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: so well.

790
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 2: Okay, the final question for serial killer or self care

791
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: ending this podcast?

792
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: God, damn you. I think self care.

793
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you that to you both. That's a

794
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: true question.

795
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: It's both.

796
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: I thought you might say serial killer, but I know

797
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: it's self care. We just talked about it when we

798
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: told people we were ending the podcast, like it's self care.

799
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: I would have rioted if you said serial killer. I

800
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: know you're trying to throw me. It's self care. I'm

801
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 4: five or five.

802
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: No, going out like that absolutely correct?

803
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: Okay, ain't going out like that?

804
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: Of course, of course you've got a perfect score.

805
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you would have said serial killer,

806
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: I would have said it was correct to It's just

807
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean this, I mean, obviously this

808
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: is a joke, but I mean this is the best way.

809
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean it is like both sad and happy. I mean, oh,

810
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: it really is. I mean there's gonna be stuff like

811
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: this that we're not gonna do anymore, which is which

812
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss, and ending it feels like a serial

813
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: killer move. But then it's also self care to end it. Yeah,

814
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: like we're happy, we're in a good place about it.

815
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 4: So true, And I'm laughing because it's like, oh wait,

816
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 4: that's every decision I make in my life where everyone's like,

817
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: why are you stopping? I stopped doing feminist Ryan Gossling.

818
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 4: They're like, why not keep this going for forty five years?

819
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh no, I'm done with it. Serial

820
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: killer moved to just walk away from something successful that

821
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 4: makes you happy.

822
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: No, there are no water signs on this podcast, not

823
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: a one. So we're not getting sentimental about shit. Once

824
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: it's done. It's done. We're like the bye, like please,

825
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: even Casey's a cap record, he couldn't care less cut ties,

826
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: no problem, move on.

827
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 3: Well.

828
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: Also, it's kind of fucked up in a way because.

829
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: We're not going anywhere.

830
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be missing out anything, but our listeners

831
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: will be, which I'm sad for them. But I feel like, oh,

832
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: nothing's gonna change because we will still be able to

833
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 4: talk to each other and talk to Casey and have

834
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: our thing. So that is a serial killer move to

835
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, nothing's gonna change, and then your whole

836
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: audience is like, yeah, everything is changing for us. You're

837
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 4: fucking psychos. You're not gonna be here for us anymore,

838
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 4: these cringe bitches. No, I gotta learn how to walk away.

839
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: It is the most valuable lesson in your life. Learn

840
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: how and when to walk away from things.

841
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: Yes, we know how.

842
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: To fold them for sure, or we know when to

843
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: fold them. I should say, Okay, so you've got a

844
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: perfect score. Yeah, do you even handle that curveball I

845
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: threw at the end very nicely?

846
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 3: So you really tried it? But I ain't going out

847
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: like that.

848
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: No, No, you're absolutely not. Should we start this podcast?

849
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Or what are we doing whatever?

850
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: I mean, we're like an hour in so why not

851
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: when I talk about a movie or two?

852
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so we got a theme stressful. This is stressful.

853
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: But I was gonna ask if you would tell people

854
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: what it is.

855
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: I would love to tell people what it is, because

856
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: our theme this week is eat the Rich. We're talking

857
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: about modern class warfare.

858
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, two thousand's style. Would you say, wait, actually it's more.

859
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: Like twenty well yeah, more like twenty twenties.

860
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: Twenty twenties style.

861
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 4: Mine came out in twenty nineteen, but it's on the CUSP.

862
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: But yeah, like last five years, last, you know, six

863
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: years of Beat the Rich mentality.

864
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Well, and we have been talking about wanting to do

865
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: your movie for a while. Yes, and I haven't seen

866
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: it since it came out, and glad I saw it again.

867
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a great, great film.

868
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: Oh, masterpiece.

869
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting like I was actually kind

870
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: of trying to figure this out a little bit when

871
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: we were doing research for this week, because I'm like,

872
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: these are two movies that came out relatively close together,

873
00:43:54,200 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: kind of like post Obama, maybe pre pandemic or at

874
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: least you know, at the heels of the pandemic, and

875
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: they're kind of addressing the same thing.

876
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: Yes, there's so many parallels now that I've watched I've

877
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: watched each of them obviously separately before now that I've

878
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: watched them together, there are some very interesting parallels in

879
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 4: our films, which we'll get into when we talk about them.

880
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: But it's it's also nice. I think it's a nice

881
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: shift culturally that there are now so many ways to

882
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: look at and confirm that we should be eating the

883
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: rich and engaging and paying attention to modern class warfare

884
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: at least. And I say this as a person who

885
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 4: in a recent episode commented on how my lifestyle is

886
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 4: possible because I'm making more money. I'm not rich, I'm

887
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: not I'm not the people we're talking about. I'm just

888
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: I've got a good job. But what I and personally,

889
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 4: and this is maybe a bridge too far in validating myself,

890
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: but I don't need that much. So when I make

891
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: a certain amount of money, I give the rest away.

892
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 4: Drives my business manager crazy, But I don't need that much.

893
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 4: I just give it away.

894
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think that there's generational wealth

895
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: that's happening when some of the characters in these movies

896
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: this week, which gotta say not my experience, I got

897
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: none of that.

898
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: And I don't think generational wealth should exist.

899
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 4: I think spend your fucking money, let your kids spend

900
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: for themselves.

901
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

902
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, generational wealth does not create instantly create better people

903
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerned. It creates hoarders and people

904
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: who then become, you know, generations later, the kind of

905
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: people that we live with now, who think because their

906
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: money isn't earned, that it's better and that they deserve more,

907
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: or that there's their lives are somehow more valuable.

908
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and yeah, and I just you know, I

909
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: think it's really interesting because it really does feel like

910
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: these two movies this week are kind of united by

911
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: this idea of everybody in the world is fighting each

912
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: other at the feet of extremely wealthy people, right, And

913
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: why are we doing that?

914
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: Why aren't we in fighting them?

915
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

916
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: And why.

917
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: Have has the tone shifted? I was reading this one

918
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: article about my movie in reference to like a bunch

919
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: of like there's like a lot you know. I think

920
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: the obvious, you know, parallel to my film would be

921
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: something like White Lotus, where there's this kind of like

922
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: Recent and Glass Onion and all these movies about like

923
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: rich people on yachts and things. Yeah, there's this kind

924
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: of like which is so true, like resort, Like how

925
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: there's this double message happening where it's like, yes, we

926
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: are trying to deconstruct and criticize this wealthy you know,

927
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: elite class and their bullshit and there you know, the

928
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: ways of which they navigate the world and make everybody

929
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: feel like shit.

930
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: But we're also like fascinated by their world.

931
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: That's what locks me up is like it's aspirational to people.

932
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and about how can these things exist at the

933
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: same time. Is it pleasure to watch people drinking expensive

934
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: champagne on you know, super yachts, uh, saying bullshit while

935
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: like the people below the deck are like serving them

936
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: while also criticizing it, Like is there like a double

937
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: thing about it? And I'm like, yeah, I don't know,

938
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: because I texted you when I I hadn't watched my

939
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: movie since it came out, which wasn't that long ago.

940
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Halfway through it, I had to fucking stop the movie

941
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: and I text you and I said, I'm too, I'm

942
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: about to have a panic attack. I'm so mad at

943
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: rich people right now that I have try the movie off, and.

944
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 4: I want to know when we get to your movie,

945
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: I want to know exactly what scene that was or

946
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: what moment that was. But I completely agree that I

947
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: find it genuinely physically sickening to watch a gross display

948
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: of wealth. It is physically sickening to me that people

949
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: feel comfortable, ye like having those resources and using them

950
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 4: to become worse, like more terrible people.

951
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, it makes me.

952
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: It makes me fucking sick to see the excess and

953
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: the wiste and the just the focus on things that

954
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: do not fucking matter, like the clothes and the jewelry

955
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 4: and the fucking things.

956
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just makes me fucking ill.

957
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, and like, what is the psychological moment where

958
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: people are like this is like like ooh, like I

959
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: love watching Jennifer Coolidge be a fucking rich bitch in

960
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: a resort, but I also hate rich people and wish that,

961
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, our current form of capitalism would disappear. Like

962
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: I guess I just don't understand what the worship and

963
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: the hatred is happening at the same time, because it

964
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: feels like I can't do that. I have to just

965
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: hate them, and so I don't know. I think that

966
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: that's that really gave me a lot of food for

967
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: this week. And then these two movies of course, same thing.

968
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: It's like, you know your film in particular, I will

969
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: not shut up about snow Peak. We're gonna get to

970
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: it now. But I'm like, these motherfuckers are iced out

971
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 1: in snow Peak camping gear, and that's all I gotta

972
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: say about that.

973
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 4: The water in their refrigerator are several bottles of vas.

974
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 3: It's that kind of shit, Like I get glass bottles.

975
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they're plastic, they might be glass.

976
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: I've never even touched one of those bottles. They look

977
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: so rich. They's not water for me. This is not

978
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: water for my dumbass.

979
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: Only the first time I ever drank one of those

980
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: boss bottles was what I went to. I went to

981
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: a rap show like a long time ago. It was

982
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: basically like Ti Twista and the guy that's saying the

983
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: hook on I like the way you move by Big Boy,

984
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: and it was like it cost like fifty dollars to

985
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: get into the club, and then they were serving that

986
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: water and I was like, what's this water? Why is

987
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: it so chic and slim, and I immediately was like, oh,

988
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: it's because this it costs fifty dollars to get in here.

989
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: That's why they're so very stupid water and now it's

990
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: just everywhere, but like, especially in You're a movie.

991
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: Makes me sick.

992
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: So I was reading I like to read on the

993
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 4: on the Strategist that like things I can't live without,

994
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 4: celebrity shopping kind of thing, just because it's interesting to

995
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 4: me to see what people buy, right, And I think

996
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 4: it was on one of those where I saw someone

997
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 4: who couldn't live without a four hundred dollars note book

998
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: that they wrote in with a two hundred dollars pen.

999
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 4: Hell no, And I'm like, this is where I lose

1000
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: the plot completely and become apoplectic, like what are you

1001
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 4: fucking you can live without that shit? You can get

1002
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: a mead notebook for a dollar if you had to,

1003
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: and a fucking ten cent bigpen.

1004
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you might be.

1005
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 4: And I understand that the whole concept of that is

1006
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: basically to be like these are the things I like

1007
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: the most, which, okay, fine, I get it. I also

1008
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: have a favorite pen, but a four hundred dollars notebook

1009
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 4: You're going to act like that's normal.

1010
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no.

1011
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: The only time and I like reading it too.

1012
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: The only times where I actually like, like am like

1013
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: yes are when the celebrity reveals like it's like when

1014
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: they are using like a very simple thing that exists

1015
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: at like the drug store. It's like Charlie XCX uses

1016
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: like an old man foot powder and it's just like

1017
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: four dollars at Walgreens. Like That's the only time where

1018
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm like this, this should exist, like I care about

1019
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: a celebrity's products is when they're just like real simple,

1020
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: boring show when they do. Yeah, when you do get

1021
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: the one where it's like I only you know, eat

1022
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: like strawberries that were you know, picked from the fucking

1023
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: base of the Himalayas or whatever the fuck, you're.

1024
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 3: Like, you've lost the plot.

1025
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and now everyone knows you have because you

1026
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: just set it in an interview.

1027
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: And that and truly, truly like Debbie Masars is the

1028
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: best one if you ask me, if you go look

1029
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: up Debbie Mazar when I can't live without or I

1030
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: think they even did one that's like one hundred products.

1031
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: I love because she leaves in Italy, so she's like

1032
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: got a real mix of high low. Yes, but she's

1033
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 4: also like a down home New York girl, so she's

1034
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 4: got like a real mix of high low. But it's

1035
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: for me. It's also a way to gauge, like how

1036
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: out of touch a celebrity is or how.

1037
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: Much money they make, because I'm like, oh, you can't live.

1038
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 4: Without something that costs four hundred dollars that will be

1039
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: done in three weeks, You'll be done using it. You're

1040
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: you're you make so much money that you literally have

1041
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: are not in touch with reality anymore?

1042
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it's it's shocking. But oh my god,

1043
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to talk about your movie. Like, all right,

1044
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good, stressful week, but I'm ready.

1045
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: Let's get it a good and stressful week.

1046
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: My film was released in twenty nineteen. It was directed

1047
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: and written by Bong June Hoe. Han Jin Moon also

1048
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 4: did the screenplay with Bang June Hoe. And my movie

1049
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: is called Parasite.

1050
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: Little Renois.

1051
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: Now I fucking love this movie.

1052
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you the one sentsin synopsis, a family

1053
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 4: down on their luck infiltrates a rich family one by one.

1054
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: Nailed it, of course, So that is just the premise,

1055
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 4: and I'm only going to walk you through about half

1056
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: of this film because if you have not seen this

1057
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: movie before, I want you to watch it at some

1058
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 4: point and if I explain to you what has happened

1059
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: what happens in this film, it will not be the

1060
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 4: experience that I had when I first watched the movie.

1061
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna say that. I know people would

1062
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 4: love for us to spoil it, but guess what, we

1063
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: got two episodes left and we're still not doing it.

1064
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 3: Get over it, get over it.

1065
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 4: Got made it four years, not spoiling ship for you

1066
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: most of the time, and happening now either. So what

1067
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: I love about this movie and I do think it's

1068
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 4: a fucking masterpiece and it blew me away. And it's

1069
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: such a rich and layered and unique story that is

1070
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 4: simultaneously so funny and so terrifying. So the film itself,

1071
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 4: taking these shifts between humor and like abject terror, is

1072
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: just a master stroke. Bang June Hoe is an incredible

1073
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: director in that way he did you know Memories of

1074
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: Murder and Oak John He's He's made a lot of

1075
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: unbelievable films. This particular film won so many awards, like

1076
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: so many awards. It won the a bunch of Academy

1077
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: Awards for Best Picture and Best Directing. In twenty twenty,

1078
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 4: it won the fucking Palm d'Or at Can. It won

1079
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: the Golden Globe like anything it could win.

1080
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: It won that year.

1081
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: And Bong Juneo is also delightful to watch accepting an

1082
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 4: award if you haven't seen any of his acceptance speeches.

1083
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: But I think this movie really spoke to people in

1084
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: a big way. And again I think it's the way

1085
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 4: that that Bang Juno was able to direct and present

1086
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 4: it that helped with that. But the story itself is

1087
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 4: it's so well written, so I just love it. And

1088
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 4: it's really the story of two families. So we first

1089
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 4: have the Kim family. Chun Suk who's the mom, Kai

1090
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 4: Tech is the dad, Ki Wu is the son, and

1091
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 4: Ki Jung is the daughter. And forgive me if I'm

1092
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 4: mispronouncing those because it could be Kei Jung. But and

1093
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 4: I was listening closely in the movie and I listened

1094
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: in some interviews, and I think it's Kei Jung. So

1095
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: that's the family that we're starting with, who is completely

1096
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 4: down on their luck, like poor, poor, poor, poor, poor

1097
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 4: sub level poor, and it's really demonstrated in the film

1098
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: how poor they are by looking at their surroundings. So

1099
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: they live in a they call it a semi basement apartment,

1100
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: so it's kind of half underground half above ground. Let

1101
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: me put it this way. Their toilet is the is

1102
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: higher than their living space. Their toilet is kind of

1103
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: on a pedestal that goes above where they sleep and.

1104
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: Eat and live.

1105
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that metaphorically and visually is just a way

1106
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: to kind of construct how how low they are societally.

1107
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: And then you have the Park family, and the Park

1108
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: family is dong eke yon Ko. Dong Ek is the dad,

1109
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: Yanko is the mom, Da Song is their youngest child

1110
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: who's a boy, and Dahi who's their daughter, teenage daughter.

1111
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: They also have three dogs, Zuni, Berry, and Fufu, all

1112
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: these tiny little dogs running around, so cute. And the

1113
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: first scene in the movie is the Kim family in

1114
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 4: their apartment which is kind of drab, and they can't

1115
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: get Wi Fi because they've been surfing Wi Fi from

1116
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 4: a neighbor and the neighbor put a password on it.

1117
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 4: So just again conceptually, to live in a world in

1118
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty where Wi Fi is not available

1119
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: to you, or that digital divide is so stark that

1120
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: you cannot do anything without the Internet, to the point

1121
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 4: where the the mom chunk suk has been waiting for

1122
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: information on WhatsApp about a job that she applied for

1123
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 4: that now she can't access because they don't have Wi Fi.

1124
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: And again it's a small apartment. Drunks come and piss

1125
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: right in front of their window.

1126
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: You learn it. They're peeling mold off of old bread.

1127
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: They're surrounded by stink bugs again, and it's for people

1128
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: living here. So they're waiting to hear from the pizza

1129
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 4: pizza generation business because the whole family is going to

1130
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: make pizza boxes for money. And then the fumigation truck

1131
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: comes by and dad decides to leave the windows open

1132
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 4: so that their apartment can also get fumigated. I mean

1133
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 4: the pizza boxes are also getting fumigated now. But that

1134
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 4: is where they are in life, where they're like anything

1135
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 4: that we can get for free that we don't have

1136
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: to spend money on we will take because no one

1137
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 4: is working, we're all down on our luck. The kids

1138
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: can't afford to go to college. And again these are

1139
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: incredibly smart people. As we watch the film, that becomes

1140
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: more and more prevalent that everyone is so smart and

1141
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: they're pushed to a place where they have to use

1142
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 4: their intelligence in devious ways because of where society has

1143
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 4: placed them. Yes, so they don't do a good job

1144
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 4: on the boxes. And there's this one scene where like

1145
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 4: the whole family kind of and it's right at the

1146
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: beginning of the film, so that's a very interesting tone

1147
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 4: because the pizza women comes to collect the boxes and

1148
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: she's like half, like a quarter of these are not folded. Well,

1149
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to dock your pay ten percent. But then

1150
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: the whole family kind of slowly starts to surround her

1151
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 4: so that Kiwu can ask for a job. He's like,

1152
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 4: you know, I know that the reason you're in this

1153
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: position is because your box guy didn't show up, So

1154
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: why don't you just hire me? And then his sister

1155
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 4: kind of comes in and is like, yeah, you should

1156
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: hire him, and then the mom kind of comes in,

1157
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: and that is the tone of the whole movie. How

1158
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: one by one this family is going to surround someone

1159
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: of means and get everything they can from them and

1160
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 4: try to influence them so that again a small scene

1161
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 4: that to me is masterful and as a way of

1162
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: explaining what this family is willing to do to make money.

1163
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 4: So then the movie really kicks off when a friend

1164
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: of Kiwu's comes by. His name is Min and he's

1165
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 4: got this rock, it's called a scholar's rock that he's

1166
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: got for Kiwu's dad, Kai Tech, and it's supposed to

1167
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 4: be like, you know, this great prestigious thing that he's

1168
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: presenting and his grandfather gave to him. And he's obviously

1169
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 4: been a friend of the family for a while, and

1170
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: Kiwu is really upset that he came into the house

1171
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 4: because he's embarrassed by where he lives. But also Men,

1172
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: even though they're friends and of the same age, Men

1173
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 4: is doing much better clearly, so they go out for drinks.

1174
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 4: Men is in college, he's about to study abroad, and

1175
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: he tells and Kiwu tells him, like, you know, my

1176
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 4: whole family's out of work, were struggling, And Men suggests

1177
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: that Kiwu take over for him as a tutor for

1178
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: a rich kid while he's studying abroad.

1179
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: So the reasoning for this is a little fucked.

1180
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 4: He's like, I want it to be you because I

1181
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 4: actually am in love with this teenage girl who's a

1182
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 4: sophomore in high school. But I'm gonna wait until she

1183
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 4: goes to university to ask her out. And I don't

1184
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: want any of these like frat boy assholes like hitting

1185
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: on her while I'm gone, and I know that you

1186
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: ki Wu would never pose a threat. Essentially, yeah, he.

1187
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: Negged him pretty good, I have to say.

1188
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: Right, he nagged him into a job.

1189
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 4: So you're like, oh, this is a weird, like you're

1190
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: helping him, but also huh. So Keiwu is like, all right,

1191
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 4: but I'm not a college student. He's like, I'll have

1192
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 4: to pretend to be a college student, and men, to

1193
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 4: his credit as a friend, is like, well, you're smart enough,

1194
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 4: you just don't have the piece of paper. And he

1195
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: does say that eventually to his parents after his sister

1196
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 4: Kijun doctor's up a fake degree. He's like, well, I'm

1197
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: gonna go to this university next year. I just printed

1198
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: the degree early, which is like a stunning rationalization. So

1199
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 4: then you watch him literally climb up from their apartment

1200
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 4: to the house. Because one thing I also love about

1201
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 4: this film is you are constantly going to be questioning

1202
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: who is the parasite, right and a parasitic relationship in

1203
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 4: general is one where you know, a parasite is viewed negative.

1204
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 3: It's a negative thing.

1205
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 4: It's something that is like affecting you or your life.

1206
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: So you're watching them kind of climb up and replicate

1207
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 4: these parasitic bug like moves where they're climbing into it

1208
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 4: to a territory that they don't belong in, right, And

1209
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 4: the difference in the living spaces is so vast because

1210
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 4: when he gets to the Park's house, they have like

1211
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 4: a bamboo lined front entry. They have a huge yard,

1212
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 4: there's tons of sunlight. The inside of the house is

1213
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 4: glass and it's you know, bright, and it's designed by

1214
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 4: a famous architect. And they have a house keeper who's

1215
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 4: like a house manager that they meet, and you know,

1216
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: those kind of these perfect photos of the Park.

1217
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 3: Family on the wall.

1218
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 4: The reality of the Park family is a little different.

1219
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 4: Park family is a little bit of a mess. Mom's

1220
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: passed out on the table when Kiwu first arrives, just

1221
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 4: like head down, fallen asleep on the outdoor picnic table,

1222
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 4: and he meets his he meets his student da Hi,

1223
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 4: and he crushes it. Mom wants Mom is very discerning.

1224
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 4: She wants to sit in on the first lesson. She

1225
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 4: kind of wants the best for her kids, and you

1226
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: can tell that her job is to kind of create

1227
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: the perfect family and make sure they have everything they

1228
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 4: need to be the perfect family. And she's very naive

1229
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 4: and very easily influenced, which we will come to find out,

1230
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 4: but she wants to when we first meet her. She's

1231
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 4: got a backbone and she's discerning and she wants to

1232
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 4: sit in on the first lesson. Blows everyone away. She

1233
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 4: starts calling Keewu Kevin, which is I think culturally in

1234
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 4: wealthier families in Korea, because this movie takes place in Korea.

1235
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: I think it's common if you're learning English to kind

1236
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 4: of replicate English names. When I used to teach college classes,

1237
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 4: I would have you know, international students, and they would

1238
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: always give themselves or have been given a more European name,

1239
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: and I always ask, like, you know, like I can

1240
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 4: pronounce your name like like.

1241
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: If you prefer.

1242
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: But I think that it's a way of assimilating essentially

1243
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 4: A lot a lot of times.

1244
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: Those rich kids come to Canada or America or you know,

1245
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: English speaking countries like New Zealand and Australia to learn English.

1246
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: Right or to go to school, and they get exactly

1247
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: they get Americanized English names.

1248
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're already kind of engaging in this this

1249
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 4: wealth disparity where you get to choose your name, you

1250
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: get to kind of choose how how you are in

1251
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 4: the world, and you have a little bit more, a

1252
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 4: little bit more of a pathway to respectability because you

1253
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 4: have money.

1254
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 3: And so as Kiwu is leaving Das.

1255
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: Song, the little boy comes in and his mom is

1256
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 4: very concerned that he's not focused. He thinks he's like

1257
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: this eccentric, genius artist, but he's really the kind of

1258
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 4: kid who just like lays around with an arrow in

1259
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 4: his butt. And Keiwu is like, oh, you need an

1260
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 4: art tutor for him. I've got the perfect person. And

1261
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: he lies and says that this person was an art

1262
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 4: school with his cousin and it's actually his sister.

1263
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: It's actually Kijun.

1264
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 4: And there's a really funny scene where he looks at

1265
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 4: one of the kid's paintings and he's like, it's a chimpanzee, right,

1266
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 4: And the mom just says, oh, a self portrait. They

1267
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 4: know nothing about art, they know nothing about any of this,

1268
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 4: but they are absolutely he's going to get his sister

1269
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 4: a job now, right, because he's zoomed in on the

1270
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 4: fact that this woman needs things for her children that

1271
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 4: is her pride and joy. So he suggests his sister

1272
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: and when she arrives, his student to Hie is already

1273
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 4: jealous of Keijun. He thinks she doesn't know that their

1274
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 4: brother and sister obviously, and she already has a crush

1275
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: on Kiwu, but she's also pissed off because she's like,

1276
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 4: my little brother is pretending to be an artist. He's

1277
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 4: pretending to be this total weirder when he's just a

1278
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 4: fucking freaky little kid. But they kiss and they kind

1279
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 4: of have a moment, and you know, you can tell

1280
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 4: that things are going to get started for them. But

1281
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 4: everyone's trying to be respectful of the fact that she's a

1282
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 4: sophomore and wait till she's in university to make a move,

1283
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 4: but like already making the moves, and I'm like.

1284
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: I don't know about this, guys, I don't know about this.

1285
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: But basically, the sister is hired and her given name

1286
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 4: is Jessica by the mom whose name we don't know yet,

1287
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 4: by the way, interestingly enough, and it turns out that

1288
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: Kijung is so adept at crafting this psychological story about

1289
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 4: her own abilities that she makes it seem like it's

1290
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: her decision to take the kid on and not the

1291
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 4: other way around. So she's like eventually when she's talking

1292
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 4: to her parents, she's like, Yeah, I just read some

1293
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: shit about art therapy and like I googled some stuff.

1294
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: And then like this woman was mesmerized, and her parents

1295
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 4: are actually kind of proud. They're like, oh, in another life,

1296
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 4: she would have been such a great cot heart. But

1297
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 4: she's like worked her way into this family by focusing

1298
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 4: on the thing that the mom is most worried about,

1299
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 4: that her kid is like having some kind of psychological

1300
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 4: issue that he's expressing in art, and she does kind

1301
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: of say that something happened to this little boy in

1302
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 4: first grade. We later get the story and there is

1303
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 4: a reason for what happened. There's an explanation for what happened.

1304
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 4: He saw something and there's an explanation for it, but

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01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 4: she's just like super concerned. So this is how this

1306
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 4: family starts working their way in. So basically, at this point,

1307
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 4: we've got Kei Wu is working three days a week

1308
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: in the house two hour sessions for tutoring, and now

1309
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: Kijung is working four days a week in the house

1310
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 4: during two hour sessions, so they're basically like full brother

1311
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: and sister are full time in this house.

1312
01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: Then we get to meet the.

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01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: Dad, dung Eke, and let me just tell you this

1314
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 4: cast is also so fucking hot. Lee Soon Qune, who

1315
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 4: plays dung Eke, is so handsome handsome.

1316
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, unreal.

1317
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 4: Also, I gotta say I kind of like key Wu

1318
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 4: Choi wu seek is very very cute. If you're not

1319
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: going to be a British Man, you should be for me,

1320
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 4: you should be Choi woo sikyah very cute. So the

1321
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 4: dad comes in and he's like, you know, he's exactly

1322
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 4: everything you think it like. He has like this uh,

1323
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 4: like this firm that he runs, like this business and

1324
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 4: it's a very nebulous business. You don't know what it is,

1325
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 4: but it's something with tech or whatever. And he's like

1326
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 4: very poised and confident, and you know, kind of walks

1327
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 4: into his house and just owns the space. So, by

1328
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 4: the way, yeah, died like super young, like right after

1329
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 4: this film too, right.

1330
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he he unlived himself. I don't know

1331
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: if there's a better way to say that, But yeah,

1332
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: it's actually sad. And I mean then this is like

1333
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: a larger issue I think that's happening within the South

1334
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: Korean entertainment industry is just the amount of pressure that

1335
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: exists for famous people in that country where they're kind

1336
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: of expected to be these like perfect people, you know,

1337
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: and you know, by all accounts, I mean, this is

1338
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: just you know, stuff that I've read on the internet

1339
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: without doing like a huge dive into it. You know,

1340
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: like he cheated on his wife perhaps and you know,

1341
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: maybe did some smoke some weed and some other types

1342
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: of drugs. But it became this huge scandal to the

1343
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: point where you know, I think that you know, obviously

1344
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: felt the pressure of it to the extent of which

1345
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: he you know, basically committed suicide. And it just and

1346
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: now that I'm kind of like paying attention a little

1347
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: bit more, I think to that entertainment industry, that seems

1348
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: like a very like common thing that happens there. I mean,

1349
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's super common in the extent that,

1350
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: but it's happening more there than I think here where

1351
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: I think just the celebrity culture there is just so

1352
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: tied into respectability, politics and you know, honor and all

1353
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: the stuff where I just think that the pressure gets

1354
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: to certain individuals. They can't live real lives, you.

1355
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 4: Know, absolutely, which is another facet of wealth and class.

1356
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,839
Speaker 4: Like if you reach a certain point in this culture,

1357
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: you have to act a certain way and kind of

1358
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: fall in line, and if you don't, there are consequences

1359
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 4: one way or the other, by your own hand or

1360
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 4: by our hands, so to speak.

1361
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a there are pockets of very toxic

1362
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: fantom culture like in that country too. I mean, they're

1363
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: are all over the world. I mean, just generally, I

1364
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: think that fandom obviously is kind of has reached kind

1365
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: of a fevered pitch of talks the city in terms

1366
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: of just the ways in which certain people feel like

1367
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: they own celebrities, right. I mean this guy was pretty

1368
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: much our age. He was forty eight when he died,

1369
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: and he couldn't be like like in a way, it's

1370
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: it's this feeling. I mean, you know, whether or not

1371
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: we don't know his personal life, if he had addiction

1372
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: issues or if he was really struggling with mental health.

1373
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: But it's like I'm sitting here, go this guy, you know,

1374
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: was just sort of living a private life and then

1375
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, people criticized him to the point where it

1376
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: felt like he I don't know, I just think that's

1377
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: so I don't know. We got to examine that as

1378
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: a culture, like we got to figure out why that's happening,

1379
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: and especially there where it feels like it happens a

1380
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: lot more, you know than regular So.

1381
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: Which is it is? It's a shame.

1382
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 4: And I know that people, especially young women aren't in

1383
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 4: America at least, you know, famous young women are starting

1384
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 4: to speak at about toxic fan culture thing oh like

1385
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: Chapel Road.

1386
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I even saw like a thing with Tyler the Creator,

1387
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: Like I think that Tyler the Creator, you know, the

1388
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: rapper's he's got like a new album out and he

1389
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 1: is basically like, listen, I don't owe you anything, Like

1390
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: I am a celebrity, but I I don't know you shit,

1391
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: Like you're my fan. You can like the music, but like,

1392
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm not a role model. I'm not trying to like

1393
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: give you access to my personal life like it ain't happening.

1394
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 4: So you know, good, Yeah, we need good for them

1395
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 4: and we need to address it in a much bigger way.

1396
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're right, and it is an international issue,

1397
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: international issue.

1398
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: Sorry to sidebar, but I had to know so important

1399
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: sidebar Lisa and Kune.

1400
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: So so basically we do meet the dad, like the

1401
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 4: patriarch of the family, and he has this driver June,

1402
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 4: who comes in with him when he comes home, and

1403
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 4: Une gives Ki June a ride home, like the family

1404
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 4: insists that they give her a ride home, and he's

1405
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 4: being a little he's just being very friendly, you know,

1406
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 4: he's really a friendly driver.

1407
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of chatting with her.

1408
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 4: But Keijun gets an idea while she's sitting in the

1409
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 4: back of that car, and she takes off her underwear

1410
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 4: and leaves it under the seat, And at.

1411
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: First you're like, what the fuck is going Like what

1412
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 3: is she doing?

1413
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 4: Because this guy wasn't mean to her or cruel to

1414
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 4: her or anything, like what is she doing? But dong

1415
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 4: Eek finds the underwear and he thinks you and is

1416
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 4: like a total scumbag who's having sex with women in

1417
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: his car. So then they like he and his wife

1418
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 4: start speculating about like the kind of woman that he

1419
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 4: slept with, like who would forget her own underwear? She

1420
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 4: must be an addict, Like it's amazing to watch them

1421
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 4: spiral out. It's so hilarious. Yeah, but he basically asked

1422
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 4: his wife to let the driver go, which is another

1423
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 4: one of her duties as the person who manages the house,

1424
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 4: to let her let this driver go. And then, as

1425
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 4: you know, after she does it, she says to Kijung,

1426
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 4: you know, is he weird to you or forward in

1427
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 4: any way? And Keijung is like, no, he was a

1428
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 4: perfect gentleman. He was great. She's like, oh, it sucks.

1429
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 4: It's like we had to let our driver go and

1430
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 4: that's why. Or she jumps in and she's like, oh yeah,

1431
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 4: my uncle had a driver that was really great. And

1432
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: because now mom doesn't trust anyone, but somehow she trusts Jessica.

1433
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 3: Again.

1434
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 4: It is this really interesting conversation where she's like, I

1435
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 4: don't trust anyone anymore. My faith has been so rocked.

1436
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 4: I only trust people I know. And I'm like, but

1437
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 4: you just met her, you just met her. But again,

1438
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 4: wealth blinds you to things when people are being nice

1439
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 4: and helpful to you, I guess. So Kijung is basically like,

1440
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: I got the driver for you, and who comes in.

1441
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,520
Speaker 3: It's Pops.

1442
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's Kai Tech. So Pops comes in and

1443
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 4: he's the driver.

1444
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: Now we now have three people.

1445
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 4: In this family in this house, and then they all

1446
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 4: together decide to set their sights on the housekeeper. So

1447
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 4: the housekeeper, we eventually learn her name is Moon Gwang

1448
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 4: and she's been there the law longest. She was actually

1449
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 4: the housekeeper for the architect who built it, so she

1450
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 4: came with the house essentially, and the family, the Kim

1451
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 4: family doesn't like it because, like, well, she acts like

1452
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 4: she owns the house and basically, if anyone's gonna find

1453
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 4: them out, it's gonna be her. So they find out

1454
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 4: through Dahai and she's tutoring, you know, in this tutoring

1455
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 4: session with Kiwu, and she's like, oh, I wish I

1456
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 4: could have peaches, but you know, our housekeeper is allergic,

1457
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 4: so we can never have peaches. They fucking jump on that,

1458
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 4: start shaving peach fuzz off of peaches and just kind

1459
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 4: of sprinkling it around moungwog and just giving her all

1460
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 4: these like allergic reactions. Dad takes a picture of her

1461
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 4: at urgent care. He's like, oh, I was there for

1462
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 4: my annual exam and I heard her say she had tuberculosis.

1463
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 4: And then the next and then he tells the mom

1464
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 4: of the family like, oh, yeah, I heard her say

1465
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 4: she had tuberculosis. Like I don't say anything. I'm so sorry,

1466
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 4: but like you should know, and just this whole act

1467
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 4: that they're practicing with each other, like how to talk,

1468
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 4: wild to watch, and they sprinkle peach fuzz near her.

1469
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 4: They cut when they're coming home one day, So the

1470
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 4: mom and Kai Tech come home one day.

1471
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 3: As soon as the housekeeper's.

1472
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 4: Mongwong starts coughing, Kai Tech goes to the garbage can

1473
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 4: and sprays hot sauce on her napkin that she's just

1474
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 4: thrown away so it looks like blood and holds it up,

1475
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 4: and the mom almost passes out, so she's gone. Like

1476
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 4: now housekeeper is also gone, and who comes in? Dad suggests, oh,

1477
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 4: I've got this card for this high class service, you know,

1478
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 4: because you know Don Eek is like, well, I really

1479
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 4: miss her old housekeeper, like she knew how not to cross.

1480
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: The line, which was very important for him.

1481
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 4: Which is another thing to discuss about this movie in

1482
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 4: terms of class and wealth disparity, is they don't mind

1483
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 4: being around people who don't have as much money as

1484
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 4: them as long as they don't cross the line, which

1485
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 4: to him is specific, but it feels like everyone kind

1486
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 4: of has their own definition of what that is for

1487
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 4: them when they reach a certain level of wealth.

1488
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: So he really misses the.

1489
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 4: Housekeeper and he's like, oh, I've got this perfect person.

1490
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 4: There's the service that was trying to actually, you know,

1491
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 4: head hunt me before I started working for you, and

1492
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 4: they just they just have veteran greed help to vip

1493
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 4: clients like you. So now everyone, the entire Kim family

1494
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 4: is working in the park House and there is a

1495
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 4: moment where Da Song, the little boy kind of sniffs

1496
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 4: the dead and sniffs the sister and he's like, oh,

1497
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 4: you all smell the same, because they basically all smell

1498
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: like the basement they live in. So again it comes

1499
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 4: back the importance of how they smell and the fact

1500
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 4: that it's discernible. It's something that you know, this wealthy

1501
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 4: child can can pick out as a discussion point or

1502
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 4: something to just know. Is that people smell different from me,

1503
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 4: and they don't smell good to them.

1504
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 3: And that does come back.

1505
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: Not enough people talk about smell as being an indicator

1506
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: of class.

1507
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, I do, But keep

1508
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 3: going the way in.

1509
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: Which people can be really compelled by that notion to

1510
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: not smell bad, to not want to smell poor. Like

1511
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't know why. When I was watching this movie again,

1512
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: I really thought about that, you know, right, And I'm

1513
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: just like I'm sitting there going like, yeah, I mean,

1514
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: what an indictment of poverty to just smell bad, like

1515
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: to have that, you know, Like for them, there's a

1516
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: scene which I don't know if you'll get to whether

1517
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 1: under the table we're basically like they're forced to listen

1518
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: to these rich people like talk about the way in

1519
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: which he smells right, and it just crushed me, Like

1520
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: I was just like.

1521
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 3: It's felt humiliating.

1522
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: So humiliating, and felt like that the kind of it's

1523
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: so primal, Like I remember that being such a huge

1524
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: issue when we were like in middle school. Like for yeah,

1525
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 1: we're like people would make fun of other people because

1526
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: they smelled poor or something, and you're just like, what

1527
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: is that is just such a crazy concept to me, I.

1528
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: Got made fun of. Oh my god, this fucking fitch.

1529
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: I will never reveal her name, but I know her name. Yeah,

1530
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 4: And one day out of nowhere, she's she's like, you

1531
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: smell you smell bad? And I was like rocked to

1532
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 4: my core. Yeah, because I'm like, I don't think I do.

1533
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 4: Like I bathe every day, yeah, like I washed my clothes.

1534
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 3: I don't think I do.

1535
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 4: But I also live with like two heavy chainsmokers, and

1536
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 4: yeah we're poor.

1537
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 3: So maybe I do. I don't know.

1538
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1539
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1540
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: It was a way to like hurt people's feelings, especially

1541
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: when we were kids. Like even like ways in which

1542
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: like they like you would be wearing perfume, but it

1543
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,879
Speaker 1: would be like the shitty like the what like electric

1544
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: youth or something. Yeah, And I'm like, I'm sorry, you're

1545
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 1: in seventh grade? Should I be wearing Tom Ford right now?

1546
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck are you thinking? Like, oh, you

1547
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: smell like CBS. My god, what a bitch. I just

1548
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: feel like, say that good lord. By the way, like

1549
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 1: some of that shit still hits, okay. If I smell

1550
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: a guy, if there's a guy that walks in, he's

1551
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: warn't curve from Dwayne Reid.

1552
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, hello, I don't know what thirty bucks.

1553
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 4: I don't even know what anything smells like because I've

1554
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 4: never been able to afford good perfume. Like I don't

1555
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 4: know what anything smells like.

1556
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy it's crazy, like how people get so

1557
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: caught up and like the smell thing as an indicator

1558
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 1: of so of people's worthiness.

1559
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 4: And it's also it's beyond your control because there is

1560
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 4: there is a scene where the family is talking about it,

1561
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 4: and it's before the humiliating scene and they're like, well,

1562
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 4: maybe we should each use a different detergent so we

1563
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 4: don't smell like each other. And then finally it's the

1564
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 4: sister who says that none of that matters. It's because

1565
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 4: we live in this semi basement apartment. It's the building

1566
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 4: we live in, like, we will never get rid of

1567
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 4: the smell as long as we live here.

1568
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,440
Speaker 1: It's a lifestyle.

1569
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lifestyle. So it's fucking wild. It's wild.

1570
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 4: So the family again, Kim family is all in. Park

1571
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 4: family has hired all of them. They're all like thrilled

1572
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 4: they're making money, like they're happiest.

1573
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 3: Shit.

1574
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 4: Then the Park family decides to go on a camping

1575
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: trip for Das Song's birthday, and this is where you

1576
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 4: see the car full of snow peak shit, and they

1577
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 4: overpack like you wouldn't fucking believe, and they have of course,

1578
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 4: their housekeeper is doing all the packing but they are

1579
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 4: like jamming this car full of the most expensive shit

1580
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 4: you've ever seen in your life to take like an

1581
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 4: eight year old on a camping trip for his birthday.

1582
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: I just put in the chat a link to the

1583
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 1: snow Peak website where they sell a pair of chopsticks

1584
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: for fifty dollars. If you wonder what kind of what

1585
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: kind of shit we're talking about? Like, I mean, when

1586
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: I saw like their entire house, like they have this,

1587
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, I guess a storage area which plays very

1588
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: heavily into this. At some point they got like Snowpeak

1589
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: boxes up there. They filled the car out with SNOWFG.

1590
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, this is like this is just

1591
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: leisure camping equipment, Like this is not year round use.

1592
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: This is like, oh, we decided to go camp in

1593
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: a couple of times a year, and y'all are putting

1594
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: fifty dollars chopsticks in the car like and that's how

1595
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: which these people are.

1596
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 4: There are things on this website that are sold out

1597
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: that are over seven hundred and fifty dollars for a tent,

1598
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 4: and I am rocked to I feel like I shouldn't

1599
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 4: even be I'm not even I don't make enough.

1600
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 3: I didn't even look at this website.

1601
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's beautiful.

1602
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: I will say that I have sadly been in pursuit

1603
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: of a couple of these items, and I actually have.

1604
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: I have the grill, Like there's a fold a foldable

1605
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: grill that I've used my ARII dividend to buy because

1606
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get that grill.

1607
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: It was the last thing I do.

1608
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, I need a little piece of Japanese design EXPECD,

1609
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: like I need some luxury in my life. You know

1610
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: how many times I use that thing? One time will

1611
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: and then I got stressed. I used it because I

1612
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 1: was like, it's probably now there's burnt charcoal residue. It's

1613
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: beautiful grill.

1614
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 4: I'm looking at a three hundred and nine dollars recycled

1615
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 4: cotton denim jacket that looks very stylish, and if you

1616
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 4: ever see me in one, that's how you know I've

1617
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 4: made it.

1618
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

1619
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 4: But also this is the kind of website where they

1620
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 4: do not show you the prices.

1621
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: You don't know the price, so you click through.

1622
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 4: They're like if you don't, if you have to be

1623
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 4: worried about the price, you shouldn't even be on this

1624
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 4: fucking website.

1625
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

1626
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Well that's how they go, and.

1627
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 4: That's how it is in this family. They don't even

1628
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 4: think about the money they spend. They just have so

1629
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 4: much of it they don't even think about it. So

1630
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 4: they pack this fucking car full of like you said,

1631
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 4: one use items a year maybe, Yeah, and they pack

1632
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 4: it fucking full and go away for the weekend.

1633
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 3: And it's unreal.

1634
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 4: It's unreal to watch them and their expensive car from

1635
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 4: their fancy house and this that's just again markers of

1636
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 4: wealth everywhere. Yes, but the Kim family is like, yes,

1637
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 4: they're gone, and they take over the house and it's

1638
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 4: pouring rain and they get drunk and it is so

1639
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 4: fucking funny, yeah, to watch them in this scene. But

1640
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 4: they're also kind of speculating because now Kiwu is like, oh, yeah,

1641
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 4: I really like d and I think I'm gonna marry her.

1642
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 4: So now they're speculating like, well, if I do, I'm

1643
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: gonna have to bring in actors to play my mother

1644
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 4: and father since you already work here. Yeah, And they're

1645
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 4: kind of like spinning this tale about how much more

1646
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 4: embedded they're gonna get in this family. But they're also

1647
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 4: talking about the family itself and how gullible the parks are,

1648
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 4: and the mom at one point is like, yeah, rich

1649
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 4: people are naive. Money irons out all the creases. They're

1650
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 4: just kind of aware of what they're doing. And again

1651
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 4: it's kind of parasitic what they're doing, but then they're

1652
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 4: also and you don't have to make a direct parasite

1653
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 4: like metaphorical shift here to understand the film. But it

1654
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 4: is interesting is if you watch it more than one

1655
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 4: time to kind of start to make these connections. But

1656
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 4: they're having a great time until the old housekeeper comes

1657
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 4: back because she has left something in the house that

1658
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 4: is directly tied to the basement room that we've seen

1659
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 4: with all the plumb extract and equipment and you know,

1660
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 4: just stuff that this family has. And I gotta say,

1661
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 4: when she comes back, all hell breaks loose.

1662
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: What does it?

1663
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 4: The movie shifts into something remarkable, and then the family

1664
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 4: comes back because it's been raining and they're like, they

1665
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 4: give an eight minute eta, So now everyone is trying

1666
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 4: to like clean up their drunken mess, deal with this

1667
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 4: housekeeper that's come back and all the shit that she's

1668
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 4: bringing into the end of the fray.

1669
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 3: They're hiding under the table.

1670
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 4: They're like, it's just I don't want to go beyond

1671
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 4: that point to describe this film because it will ruin

1672
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 4: the movie for you. Just know that when the housekeeper

1673
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 4: comes back, all hell breaks loose and you will find

1674
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 4: yourself questioning who the parasite really is in this movie.

1675
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 4: And I don't think that wealth prevents you from being parasitic.

1676
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 4: But it's just stunning. It's a masterpiece. It's a stunning,

1677
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 4: stunning movie. Incredible topic, incredible presentation. I could obviously talk

1678
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 4: about it forever. It is also over to Both of

1679
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 4: our movies are almost two and a half hours long,

1680
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 4: so you're in for like a five hour masterclass on

1681
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 4: wealth disparity if you watch both of them back to back.

1682
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 4: But I fucking love it. I love this movie. I

1683
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 4: think everyone should watch it multiple times and different times

1684
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 4: in their life.

1685
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 3: It's stunning.

1686
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it won the Oscar, it won everything. Yeah,

1687
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: like and was the first am I wrong? It was

1688
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,480
Speaker 1: the first South Korean film to ever win Best Pictures.

1689
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean this, You can't really, honestly, you cannot overstress

1690
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: the importance of how this movie, like this was a

1691
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: period I think too where South Korean culture was coming

1692
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: into America in a huge way, you know, because it

1693
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 1: wasn't just parasite. It was like, you know obviously like

1694
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: stuff like BTS and Squid Game and you know, K

1695
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: dramas and you know, all this stuff was coming. But

1696
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: this movie kind of to me when it won the

1697
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Oscar felt like, okay, like now we're in this cultural

1698
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: moment where you know, these kind of self created exports

1699
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: are now coming in America and getting like critical acclaim

1700
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: and it, you know, which is very interesting to.

1701
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 3: Me, you know, And.

1702
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: I think obviously like this movie is saying a lot

1703
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 2: about class in this very specific, you know, time period

1704
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 2: that we're living in, I think we're still living in.

1705
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 2: And there's so many like little layers to it that

1706
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: I just really enjoy it. Like I saw after seeing

1707
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: it again, I was like, oh, yeah, this movie is

1708
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: really textured, and there's a lot going on here in

1709
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: the ways in which like, yeah, how do people like

1710
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 2: navigate class? Because you've got like, you know, the obvious

1711
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 2: story where it's like, you know, you've got these you know,

1712
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 2: poor people infiltrating this rich family. But then there's the

1713
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 2: old housekeeper and that story and how those people clash

1714
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 2: and you're kind of like, Okay, so now these people

1715
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: who are both effectively poor, how do they fight each

1716
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 2: other for the you know, to stay in the lives

1717
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 2: of this rich family.

1718
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: And you're just like, yeah, man.

1719
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 3: And it also becomes a really interesting as does your film.

1720
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 4: When you're talking about class, you also can't help but

1721
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 4: talk about power. So it becomes a really interesting study,

1722
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 4: or at least examination of power dynamics as they relate

1723
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 4: to class dynamics. Because someone in the Kim's position gets

1724
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 4: a little bit of money, suddenly they're treating some people

1725
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 4: a little bit differently, or they act a little differently,

1726
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 4: or they kind of start to again aspire to this

1727
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 4: role of wealth to the point where it changes who

1728
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 4: they are and how they treat people.

1729
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that is a huge topic in my film.

1730
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, which I also loved. I did not know

1731
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 4: anything about your movie when I watched it the first time,

1732
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 4: and I was riveted.

1733
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about it a little bit.

1734
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 3: I want to talk about it a lot of it.

1735
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: A lot of it.

1736
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 3: All right.

1737
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: Well, My movie for the theme Eat Oho Riitch is

1738
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty two. It was written and directed by

1739
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: Ruben Ausland and it's called Triangle of Sadness.

1740
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 3: Pain for the tickets not better though, So what do

1741
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 3: you do?

1742
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: I sell suit, No, it's really funny because you would,

1743
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: like you just said that you didn't know anything about

1744
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: this movie too, one of the funnest things to figure out. So, okay,

1745
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: when I when I first saw this movie, I knew

1746
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: it was a Ruben Auslin movie. He did like force

1747
01:30:53,600 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: majeure in this in the Square is may I yeah,

1748
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: and like and like to that point, like, you know,

1749
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: I think he specifically is a director that's very very

1750
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: much making provocative films that are you know, kind of

1751
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: addressing class and the economies of people rich and poor.

1752
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: And there are some people that I know that think

1753
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: that he's you know, like that is kind of like

1754
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: an eye rolly, like oh this another Like, especially when

1755
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Triangle of Sadness came out, I had quite a few

1756
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: friends who are like, oh, really, like this is so obvious.

1757
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I'll take it. I will take the

1758
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: deconstruction of you know, capitalism in its modern form right now.

1759
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: I spent I've spent the last year listening to K pop.

1760
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any critical thinking happening in that

1761
01:31:55,360 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 1: world mostly for the most part, like Sabrina Carpenter's and

1762
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 1: the Ariatic Grandees God bless you. But do you think

1763
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: that they're deconstructing like class in a very like deep

1764
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: and interesting way.

1765
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 3: No, Nope.

1766
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: So like let this.

1767
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Guy cook, Okay, what the fuck?

1768
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: Why are we getting so caught up? And like, oh,

1769
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: it's like so obvious when he's trying to say, like, oh,

1770
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: it's like people on a like yeah, there's like nobody

1771
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: out here making that kind of shit right now, just

1772
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: let me have that.

1773
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 4: Also, the things that Ruben Auslin is focusing on is

1774
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 4: the nuances that go along with that. That is what's

1775
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 4: interesting to me is it's not just its overall statement

1776
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 4: about wealth. He's looking at the nuances and things that

1777
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 4: you can find within yourself that you replicate that could

1778
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 4: eventually make you one of these people.

1779
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Like this isn't like I know it's that

1780
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: super punk rock to be to this movie isn't super

1781
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: fucking punk rock. And I trust me, I am capable

1782
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 1: of that type of thinking. But like, sometimes you just

1783
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: have to accept the market are doing its like little

1784
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: form of resistance and just let it go and move on.

1785
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: Like it's at least in the right it's at least.

1786
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 2: Fighting a good fight, you know what I mean, Like

1787
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:10,600
Speaker 2: the exactly.

1788
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: Cinophiles with your fucking opinions.

1789
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 4: Anyway, ran over, not for long because we had a

1790
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 4: lot of talk about.

1791
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, so this is kind of in the trilogy

1792
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: about toxic masculinity, which again I will take all day

1793
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: long love a takedown of toxic masculinity. Like, I don't

1794
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: care if it swings for the fences, it doesn't matter.

1795
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm in. So when this movie came out, I didn't

1796
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: know anything about it and I just I saw the

1797
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: the poster in it was a boat, right, So I thought,

1798
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 1: triangle of sadness? Are they talking about Bermuda triangle? Perhaps?

1799
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know what that meant. But

1800
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: the best part is when the opening moments of the

1801
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: film where you find out what that means, what is

1802
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: that's in reference to, which is so funny. And I

1803
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even realize that was a thing

1804
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 1: that people said. And what a stupid thing, What.

1805
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 3: A stupid.

1806
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 2: What a stupid phrase for the stupidest thing.

1807
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: So the trigle of sadness, if you haven't heard, if

1808
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: you've not read the Internet. It's basically a section of

1809
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: someone's forehead that makes you look old and shitty where

1810
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: they can like botox that shit out and all of

1811
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: a sudden, now you're popular and hot. That's base.

1812
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 2: That's basically what it is.

1813
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: And it's like an industry term for like I don't know,

1814
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 1: plastic surgeons and models and other people that care about

1815
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: that stuff, where it's like basically the old looking part

1816
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: of your forehead that you can.

1817
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 3: Fix, which I never heard about until I watched this.

1818
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that is kind of the you know,

1819
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: the sort of undercurrent of the film, right because you've

1820
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: got this model, actually we've got two models. You've got

1821
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 1: the lead of this film, who is played by the

1822
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: actor Harris Dickinson. Okay, Harris Dickinson's having a moment right now,

1823
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: having a moment culturally but also in my brain. Most recently,

1824
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 1: he there's been a lot of articles about his new

1825
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: movie that's coming out with Nicole Kidman called Baby Girl,

1826
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: which is supposed to be like an erotic thriller, older woman,

1827
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: younger man type of scenario. Gotta say, I will probably

1828
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: watch that film. I also recently, because of that press

1829
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: junket I suppose that that they're on for this film

1830
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 1: or whatever is happening promotion for the film. I saw

1831
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: an interview with Harris Dickinson and Andrew Garfield where he

1832
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: reveals that he's an old man skateboarder. Really both they

1833
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: both skate, and then because they're old, they now switched

1834
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: to surfing because the bodies can't take the you know,

1835
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: constant falling on the ground and shit. And I was like,

1836
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: did you just tell me that Harris Dickinson is a skateboarder.

1837
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 3: And Andrew Garfield is a skater? I know?

1838
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: And they were like the ways in which they're swapping, like,

1839
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, like Old Guy Skate Stories. I was like,

1840
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a moment here, Wait.

1841
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 4: A minute, Old Guy Skate Stories a movie about an

1842
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 4: older woman, younger man.

1843
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:43,719
Speaker 3: I feel like I can make this happen.

1844
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that I like looked him

1845
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: up on the internet for hours one night, ah, but

1846
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like I remember him. This is the

1847
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: first time I ever saw him is in Trial with

1848
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,799
Speaker 1: Sadness Sadness, But then he was also in The Iron Claw,

1849
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, so I just was like, he's kind of

1850
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: in he's in the in the moment. Yeah, he's like

1851
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: in his late twenties. He's hot, he's a skateboarder. He's

1852
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: now he's gonna be in the you know, the Sleeping

1853
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: with Your Intern movie that we're all gonna watch because

1854
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: we're horning old people. I don't know, I like him.

1855
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 1: Let's just say that I like him really. So essentially

1856
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: in this movie, Harris Dickinson's character is, uh, he's a model,

1857
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: and and the thing about it is that I read

1858
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: that Ruben Auslin's wife is a fashion photographer, and so

1859
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: he has a lot of you know, firsthand knowledge basically

1860
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: about that industry and about you know, this concept that

1861
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 1: male models do not make as much money as female models. Right.

1862
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: And this is again going back to this concept of

1863
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 1: like the triangle of sadness, the way in which we

1864
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: have to like get this you know a or old er,

1865
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, unsightly thing away from us, Like we're always

1866
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 1: in this pursuit of being young and beautiful. Right, it's

1867
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 1: like one of the only industries where male males make

1868
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 1: less than women.

1869
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1870
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: And this is like his anxiety is that he's not

1871
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: he's basically treated he's kind of in a feminized position

1872
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: where he's being treated, you know, in a way in

1873
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 1: his industry that like he's being debased.

1874
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 3: I suppose.

1875
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 1: He's got this beautiful girlfriend who is also a model.

1876
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: His name is Karl, her name is Yayah. She's played

1877
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: by Charleby Dean, who sadly also passed away very young. Right,

1878
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 1: But that kind of the thing about both of our

1879
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: movies this week, right, is like very sad deaths of

1880
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: some cast members.

1881
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1882
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about her she died of sepsis,

1883
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,640
Speaker 1: which I almost died of sepsis. So I feel like

1884
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: I have something in common with her. And it was

1885
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: because and I noticed this in the film. She has

1886
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 1: a scar that I have. Oh, that's right, So she

1887
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see it's kind of noticeable, but

1888
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, basically like a scar that runs

1889
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: down the middle of her body. And I read that

1890
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 1: she had her spleen removed many many years ago, and

1891
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 1: because of that, she was more susceptible to like bacterial infections,

1892
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 1: and that's eventually what killed her, is a bacterial affection.

1893
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 1: And so I don't know, like, you know, obviously, like

1894
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: anytime I hear somebody having a bacterial affection and almost

1895
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: dying from it. I'm like, I feel connected to you

1896
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 1: because I went through it. It was awful, but but yeah,

1897
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 1: she unfortunately passed away and she was only thirty two,

1898
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, oh, I know, very tragic. But so

1899
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 1: in this film, basically, you know, Carl and Yaya a couple.

1900
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: He is clear really try to navigate this relationship where

1901
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: she makes more money than him. She is definitely about

1902
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,759
Speaker 1: that influencer life. You know, she takes pictures of herself

1903
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 1: or the jokes are like so funny, like you know,

1904
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: she's in a restaurant pretending to eat pasta. She did

1905
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: eat pasta, And it's also wild because of her status

1906
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 1: as a model slash influencer.

1907
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 4: They're having this interesting discussion about wealth disparity. Yeah, between them,

1908
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 4: the two of them in their industry and just in

1909
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 4: their personal lives.

1910
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 3: And she gets everything for free.

1911
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 4: So her concept of generosity is like, well I gave

1912
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 4: you this shirt, and he's like, you got the shirt

1913
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 4: for free. Well, I took you on this trip. You

1914
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 4: got the trip for free. You're not being as generous

1915
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,719
Speaker 4: as you think. Could you make so much more money

1916
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 4: than me that you are never spending yeah.

1917
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: And like they have a very uncomfortable conversation at the

1918
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 1: beginning about paying for dinner, you know, where it's obviously

1919
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: she makes a lot more money than him, but she

1920
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: expects him to pay all the time, and he kind

1921
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 1: of wants, you know, parody between the two of them,

1922
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 1: and she's just kind of like, what, like you gotta

1923
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 1: pay or my boyfriend type of thing. And it just

1924
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: really triggers me because I'm like, my whole life has

1925
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 1: been about making my own money. I never want people

1926
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: to pay for me. And I think it's just because

1927
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 1: I have this, like, really it's a deep seated self

1928
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: sufficiency that sometimes I need to work on. I gotta

1929
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 1: let that shit go. Sometimes you've got to let people

1930
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: pay for you. It really it really slightly, you know,

1931
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: But in those moments when I watch this film, I'm

1932
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: just like, oh God, this is so uncomfortable. Fuck, like,

1933
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 1: get me out of here. I just so that's this

1934
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: beginning of the stress. This is when I started getting

1935
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: really stressed out about watching this film. Again.

1936
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,679
Speaker 3: Was this the text moment?

1937
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, The text moment comes, you know, it

1938
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 1: was fairly soon after. So basically, like you alluded to,

1939
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 1: she gets this free cruise on this like luxury yacht,

1940
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, and it becomes so the first part is

1941
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: kind of about them, you know, sort of navigating their

1942
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: model influencer relationship, right, which is obviously very ridiculous to normal.

1943
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 3: People like us.

1944
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: Right, then it moves onto the boat, and then the

1945
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: boat section is it's all kind of contained universe, because

1946
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: then it becomes a sort of like you know, you've

1947
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: seen it in a below deck. It's kind of like

1948
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: an upstairs downstairs type of feeling, right, because you've got

1949
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: like the guests who are all rich, wealthy industrialists and

1950
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: models and influencers, and then the people who are working

1951
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 1: for them, and then even beyond that, you've got like

1952
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 1: the the top of deck, and then you've got the below,

1953
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: the guts, the yeah, you know, which is like you

1954
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: got the white, pretty people who are the staff, you know,

1955
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: and then you've got the people working below who clean

1956
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: toilets and cook and our mechanics.

1957
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 3: And whatnot, and they're all brown people.

1958
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: Listen, all Filipinos down there, all Filipinos. And we'll talk

1959
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: about a very important one in just a second, but like,

1960
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: so basically, you know, you've got this scenario where all

1961
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: of these different people of these different social statuses and

1962
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: wealth uh statuses are interacting with each other. Right, So

1963
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is you're just really really honed

1964
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 1: in on the ways in which like rich people suck.

1965
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: And this is the this is where I started get

1966
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: stressed out. Where there's a scene where Karl and Yaya

1967
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 1: are interacting with it's like much older couple. There's an

1968
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: older guy who is kind of this like Russian uh

1969
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: shit salesman as he calls himself. He's kind of like

1970
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:44,480
Speaker 1: an industrialist who sells fertilizer and his wife and his girlfriend.

1971
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: I believe that's kind of where he's he's on the

1972
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: trip with never explained.

1973
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 3: But completely explicit.

1974
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So you know, these guy and his his

1975
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: you know wife and his girlfriend are kind of hanging

1976
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: out in the boat. So there's a scene where I

1977
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: guess it's his wife is in the pool, yes, and

1978
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: she basically is sitting there while this like young fresh

1979
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: faced white girl in her you know, sailor's outfit is

1980
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 1: basically pouring her champagne and this woman is basically like,

1981
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: you're so wonderful, get in the pool, and she's like,

1982
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm working, and this woman absolutely insists that

1983
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 1: she gets into.

1984
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,679
Speaker 3: The pool well and not take no for an answer.

1985
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: This scene is so deeply uncomfortable because you're literally watching

1986
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: this girl like trying to, you know, basically do her

1987
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: job while this woman is forcing her to do something

1988
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 1: that she feels. Is this like a galitarian statement, like oh,

1989
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 1: we're all one, we can all swim in the pool together.

1990
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: And this girl is like, absolutely can't do that, and

1991
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: you're making me do it because I'm supposed to be

1992
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 1: serving you.

1993
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to say yes to anything you want.

1994
01:44:56,600 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then it becomes so ridiculous that this woman,

1995
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: this older woman, forces the entire boat to go down

1996
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:05,839
Speaker 1: the water slide.

1997
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 4: It is like a death march watching them go towards

1998
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 4: this slide. If not that part made me stressed out too,

1999
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 4: because I'm like, oh, this is not this is this

2000
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 4: is not enjoyable for anyone. And she's you know this,

2001
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:26,839
Speaker 4: this Russian rich woman is getting some sense of pride

2002
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 4: but also generosity that she is the one who's giving

2003
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 4: these hard working people a day, a moment of fun.

2004
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you're actually fucking dinner, You're fucking the

2005
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 4: whole ship, right, nobody wants to be doing this. You're

2006
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 4: forcing this on people because you have enough money to

2007
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 4: take the kind of trip where nobody can say no

2008
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 4: to you.

2009
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like she thinks that she's liberating all these like poor,

2010
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 1: stressed out, working class people, and really she's just ruining

2011
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 1: people's fucking day. So there's so much of that in

2012
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 1: this film, these like little moments that really kind of

2013
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: bring up the questions of like, you know, who has

2014
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 1: power in the scenario, you know, who's subservient to others.

2015
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 1: I won't like go super beat by beat because there's

2016
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: again it's a long movie, but I will say that

2017
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 1: eventually there's a event that happens on the boat. I

2018
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: think it's probably the what it's known for in terms

2019
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 1: of its notoriety of the film, because it's like, you know,

2020
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: it involves you know, puking. Let's just say that. But

2021
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:36,560
Speaker 1: basically the boat ends up for several different reasons basically

2022
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 1: well I don't.

2023
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 2: Know, like sole compromised, I don't know.

2024
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: It just the whole apparatus gets shut down and it

2025
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: forces the third section, where it's essentially kind of like

2026
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,879
Speaker 1: Survivor or Lost, where it moves on to like an

2027
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 1: island where there are some members of the boat who

2028
01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 1: have washed up on this island and now they have

2029
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 1: to kind of exist together while they wait to be rescued.

2030
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: And this is where I think I mean the message

2031
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: of how a crisis in environment like the ways in

2032
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 1: which the playing field gets completely leveled class wise, when

2033
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: you are at a survival scenario.

2034
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 4: Right, your money doesn't matter, Yes, when it becomes clear

2035
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,839
Speaker 4: that money will not save you right, anything right.

2036
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:35,480
Speaker 1: And as it regularly is, the people of the underclass,

2037
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: the working class, the poor have the survival skills and

2038
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 1: these rich focks don't have them. Right, absolutely, So there's

2039
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: this inversion that happens where this Philipeda salute named Abigail,

2040
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 1: who is played by the actress Dolly de Leon. She

2041
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 1: got a lot of praise for this role when she

2042
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: was in it. She was the former toilet manager on

2043
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: the yacht and now she's the captain. And when I

2044
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 1: tell you the scene where she cooks the octopus, there's

2045
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: a she catches an octopus with her bare fucking hands,

2046
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 1: just like a fucking Filipino. Auntie Wood, by the way,

2047
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: like love love that part. She comes back, she cooks

2048
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 1: the octopus.

2049
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 3: She stops fire.

2050
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's just and then she's like, all right,

2051
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 1: you get a piece, you get a piece, you get

2052
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: a piece. This is for me. And everyone's like what,

2053
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: You're not gonna And then you know, her former boss,

2054
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 1: who was kind of like, I don't know, the like

2055
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: entertainment director on the boat, is like trying to tell

2056
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: her what to do, and she's like, uh uh not here,

2057
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 1: you are not my boss. Here, I'm the captain. And

2058
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: she just walks around. It's like she's like looking at everybody.

2059
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: She's like, who am I? And they're like the captain

2060
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 1: and she throws some piece of I swear I stood

2061
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 1: up and clapped in the theater. I stood. It was like,

2062
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 1: this is what I want to see. I want to

2063
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:08,560
Speaker 1: see a philippin, a middle aged Filipino woman weaponizing octopus

2064
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: and pretzel sticks. This is what I want out of entertainment.

2065
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh good period. And but to that point it gets

2066
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 1: further complicated because that's the kind of constant conversation in

2067
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: the film. Is that what happens when the power changes, right,

2068
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 1: Because then it becomes this thing where Albigail is now

2069
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: the most powerful person on the island. How does she

2070
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 1: navigate that new role sometimes questionably, and it involves you know,

2071
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: Carl essentially where his status changes absolutely. And it's just

2072
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: such a fascinating film in that way, because again, it

2073
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 1: is doing a lot, it is saying a lot, it's

2074
01:49:56,640 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 1: creating little pockets of thought in terms of how we

2075
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 1: think about wealth and power and this kind of stuff.

2076
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Like, like I said, I think

2077
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people when they watch this movie were like, oh,

2078
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 1: how obvious. Yes, we get it. Rich people are bad.

2079
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll take it. I will at this point.

2080
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 4: And that's not the only commentary that the film is giving. Again,

2081
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 4: it's a real rich it's a very rich text that

2082
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 4: looks at the dynamics of class and power.

2083
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 3: And it's not just rich people are bad.

2084
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,839
Speaker 4: It's look at all the ways that we are complicit

2085
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 4: in this world, Look at all the ways that we

2086
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 4: aspire to this, Look at all the ways that this

2087
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 4: is destructive to us, look at all the ways that

2088
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 4: this is You know that you can have someone who's

2089
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 4: doing objectionably horrible things in the world, like they are

2090
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 4: grenade manufacturers, Yeah, trying to present themselves as if they

2091
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 4: are saviors in some way, Like I think it's so much,

2092
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 4: it goes so much beyond rich people are terrible that

2093
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 4: if that's your takeaway from this movie, I don't know

2094
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 4: if we watch the same film.

2095
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I agree, and like, honestly like the thing

2096
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: that unites our movies this week, and part of the

2097
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: reason why I felt like it was so stressful is

2098
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: the ways in which poor people have a desperation in

2099
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 1: their lives that rich people just don't like. People who

2100
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: are extremely wealthy have no idea what it's like to

2101
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 1: be not on top. They just don't have the skill set,

2102
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 1: they don't have the understanding. And the problem really becomes

2103
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: when we're all subject to this dynamic, right because we're

2104
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 1: all infighting. We're all infighting trying to get on their level.

2105
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 4: There's also this message in the film, this subtext in

2106
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 4: the film, I will say, which is about equality and

2107
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 4: how in several points in the film and the modeling

2108
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 4: on the yacht and beyond, there's this notion of the

2109
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 4: most rich and powerful people insisting that everyone is equal

2110
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 4: in this world. Yeah, and the lie that you have

2111
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 4: to tell yourself to believe that is astounding. Yeah, Like,

2112
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,719
Speaker 4: while you are enacting all of these privileges of wealth

2113
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 4: and power and insisting that we are equal, which is

2114
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 4: what keeps us fighting with each other right instead of them.

2115
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 4: Is this revelation that you or this notion that well,

2116
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 4: we're not too different from each other.

2117
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 3: You could become me, I could become you, And it's

2118
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 3: not true.

2119
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 4: You are closer to being poor and on the street

2120
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 4: than you will ever be to being a millionaire or

2121
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 4: a billionaire.

2122
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: If burken bags make you actually happy, like if you

2123
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: go to bed every night thinking about your broken bag

2124
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: and being like, man, I'm so glad to have that back.

2125
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 1: It's really great. Quality holds all my things, It's beautiful.

2126
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 1: I love it.

2127
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 3: Fine.

2128
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 1: It's more just about the promotion of this like fucking

2129
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 1: rich lifestyle on you know, social media, and like, you know,

2130
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: just basically the flex of it. The flex of it

2131
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: is what makes people feel like shit. And there are

2132
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: people who are just literally like making money, being able

2133
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: to flex wealth. And then that's what's I feel like,

2134
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 1: at least, you know, you know my take of it,

2135
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: it's it's creating the weird moment of being like loving

2136
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 1: rich people and wanting to see the kind of shit

2137
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: that they own, and then hating them and wishing you know,

2138
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 1: it was different. I don't know.

2139
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 3: It's a losing game of thoughts. Yeah, it's a losing game.

2140
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2141
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 4: One thing that's that's stunning to me about the four

2142
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 4: years we've been doing this podcast is that apparently I'm

2143
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 4: a socialist, who.

2144
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 2: Are Marx's queen?

2145
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 1: Right?

2146
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:31,600
Speaker 3: Apparently apparently.

2147
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: Look, I I'm here for it all day, every day.

2148
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I got that fucking I got

2149
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 2: that punk fire in me too, you know.

2150
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 3: But what a fucking great week, what a week? Stoke

2151
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 3: that fire?

2152
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I know it's like, you know, we're on the

2153
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: final stretch here of the podcast. But if you want

2154
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: to email us, we are at A saw she did

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Speaker 1: Pot at gmail dot com. We're gonna probably check the

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Speaker 1: email for a while after the podcast over, so send

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Speaker 1: send us messages at least I will. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna be doing. You're gonna be like that's it.

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Speaker 3: I care. I don't know either.

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Speaker 4: Make no promises, but if you want to, you can

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Speaker 4: find us on our social media. We are at I

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Speaker 4: saw Pot on Instagram, Blue Sky and Twitter. You can

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Speaker 4: leave us messages, like I said, like Millie said, we

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Speaker 4: will check them for a while after the show itself

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Speaker 4: is over, and we might still have merch. If we

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Speaker 4: still have merch in the in the exactly right store,

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Speaker 4: go snap it up, because that's it, exactly rightstore dot

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Speaker 4: com to find it.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So for our next episode, we're just gonna have

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Speaker 1: some fun. There are There is no homework, There is

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Speaker 1: no movies to watch. But come, come with the come

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Speaker 1: with the laughs if you want, if you want a

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Speaker 1: couple laughs, if you want to go reminisce, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just come come listen. Uh so, yeah, no homework, just

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Speaker 1: come listen. Next week we'll be homework next week though,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, the week after there'll be homework. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: you get a break. You get a little break, which

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Speaker 1: is nice. Danielle, my Marxist queen. A fucking pleasure doing

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Speaker 1: this podcast with you.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. Make your money and give it away.

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Speaker 1: That's right, give it to me, actually, Mail, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna use a device nobeak, bye bye.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Our senior producer

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Speaker 3: is Casey O'Brien. Episode mixing and theme music by Tom Bryfogel,

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Speaker 3: artwork by Garrett Ross.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Georgia Hertstart Caring, kil Gareff and

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Speaker 4: Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter

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Speaker 4: at I Saw pod, and you can email us at

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Speaker 4: I Saw What You Did Pod at gmail