1
00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400
Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast.

2
00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm just about that action, all.

3
00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:07,960
Speaker 3: Right.

4
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,440
Speaker 4: Here we go.

5
00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,040
Speaker 3: Throwing out spect We're sitting up to cash.

6
00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,599
Speaker 2: That's all we see. Most gamblers when they go to gamble,

7
00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,360
Speaker 2: they go to sin.

8
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,720
Speaker 4: That's incredible.

9
00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,240
Speaker 2: Big bank, small banks. I like to make money. All right.

10
00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:34,040
Speaker 4: This is the ultimate combining and we are underway.

11
00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,839
Speaker 2: What is up? Everyone?

12
00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,720
Speaker 1: Welcome to The Action Network Podcast, presenting by Bett m DM,

13
00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,839
Speaker 1: King of Sports Books. I'm your host Chris Raybond, and

14
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,400
Speaker 1: today we've got our NFL player projections for week number eleven.

15
00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna run.

16
00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,040
Speaker 1: Through our top five at each position, discuss players we're

17
00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,800
Speaker 1: specially high and loan this week, and we'll throw out

18
00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,480
Speaker 1: some player props for each position as well. Here to

19
00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,360
Speaker 1: break it down with me, one of the most accurate

20
00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,000
Speaker 1: fantacy football rankers and the game the odds maker, Sean Kerner.

21
00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,920
Speaker 2: Sean, what's going on?

22
00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,920
Speaker 4: What's up? Welcome back?

23
00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,640
Speaker 3: Hopefully had fun on your like semi vacation, even though

24
00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,800
Speaker 3: you're probably working the whole time.

25
00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,280
Speaker 4: But I hope you had fun at the wedding.

26
00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely did. And I'm bat now And how

27
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,240
Speaker 2: are you doing? Man?

28
00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,199
Speaker 4: I'm good?

29
00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,840
Speaker 3: And you didn't even know where the hell you were,

30
00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,480
Speaker 3: but you were like right by me if you were

31
00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,240
Speaker 3: in San Pedro.

32
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I'm still trying to get the geography

33
00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,080
Speaker 1: down here, but right I realized that after. But yeah,

34
00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,720
Speaker 1: let's let's hop right into quarterbacks. Who do you got

35
00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:36,720
Speaker 1: for your top five?

36
00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:37,679
Speaker 2: All right?

37
00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, top five? I have Josh Dobbs.

38
00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding, Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen still

39
00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320
Speaker 3: my top three, Lamar Jackson, and Tua.

40
00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Mahomes, Jackson, doing Hurts, Dak Prescott in Tua.

41
00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:58,640
Speaker 2: Who you are?

42
00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,720
Speaker 3: I'm high on Josh Dobbs. He's not my number one quarterback,

43
00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,440
Speaker 3: but he's my number ten quarterbacks QB sixteen. Have to

44
00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,760
Speaker 3: imagine they're just recycling last week's rank, and you know

45
00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,399
Speaker 3: they'll move it up as people actually make their week

46
00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,000
Speaker 3: eleven projections. But you know, he's coming off a top

47
00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,560
Speaker 3: five scoring week against the Saints last week. You know,

48
00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,200
Speaker 3: going forward, he's only going to get more familiar with

49
00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,440
Speaker 3: the playbook, more familiar with his teammates, you know, getting

50
00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,400
Speaker 3: that chemistry, and he might be getting you know, arguably

51
00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 3: the best receiver in the game back this week and

52
00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,360
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson. So he just has a really good supporting cast.

53
00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,520
Speaker 3: You know, he has massive rushing upside. He's been tapping

54
00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,600
Speaker 3: into that even more at the Vikings. He's cleared forty

55
00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,880
Speaker 3: four yards in both games and scored a rushing touchdown

56
00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,400
Speaker 3: in both games. This is also, you know, a great

57
00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,280
Speaker 3: matchup against the Broncos. So just everything is going Josh

58
00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,919
Speaker 3: Dobbs's way right now, and I think he's an excellent

59
00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,000
Speaker 3: streaming option fantasy and the guy that might you know,

60
00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,840
Speaker 3: continue to pre at like a low end QB one

61
00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,160
Speaker 3: level the rest of the way, especially with Justin Jefferson

62
00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,320
Speaker 3: hopefully returning soon.

63
00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Josh DA's world. We're just we're just living

64
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,600
Speaker 1: in it. I mean, right, I like that. Yea, I've

65
00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,040
Speaker 1: seen that one too. I mean I don't, I don't

66
00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,200
Speaker 1: know if I love it. It's a little. It's a

67
00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,079
Speaker 1: little I feel like you got it, like Josh Doves.

68
00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,320
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just might be you know what

69
00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean? But is uh pretty a lot of syllables.

70
00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,720
Speaker 1: But hey, if he likes it, fuck it. But yeah,

71
00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,800
Speaker 1: I've been along for the ride. I've been on Minnesota

72
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,560
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. So yeah, it's been fun with

73
00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,040
Speaker 1: Josh Jabnson. If he gets Justin Jefferson back, you should

74
00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,840
Speaker 1: get Osborne back to so and you have Jayalen Naylor

75
00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,840
Speaker 1: played almost every snap, so you have like a really

76
00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,440
Speaker 1: decent supporting cast at the past cature positions for Dobbs.

77
00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, excited to see what he can do. That

78
00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,000
Speaker 1: Denver defense is playing a lot better, but I think

79
00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,640
Speaker 1: if Jefferson's back, that will.

80
00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,800
Speaker 2: Really put him over the edge. I am high on

81
00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,040
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.

82
00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,880
Speaker 1: He's my QB eight, he's QB thirteen in ECR, and

83
00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,080
Speaker 1: last week we were kind of worried, you know, how

84
00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,760
Speaker 1: how is he gonna look throwing the football and how

85
00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,520
Speaker 1: is he gonna look running the football? Look pretty solid

86
00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,040
Speaker 1: doing both. You know, two scrambles for twenty yards. He

87
00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,320
Speaker 1: also had four designed runs. Now, the one thing was

88
00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,039
Speaker 1: that he did lose a goal line carry, so that

89
00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,560
Speaker 1: that was an idea. But you know, overall, still going

90
00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,560
Speaker 1: up against the Houston defense that is twentieth in past defense,

91
00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,800
Speaker 1: dv Away, You're going against c. J. Stroud and you

92
00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,560
Speaker 1: have the Arizona defense, Like he's gonna put up like

93
00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,080
Speaker 1: thirty points on you. So I think Arizona's going to

94
00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,920
Speaker 1: be in the kind of game script, but they're gonna

95
00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,480
Speaker 1: have to throw the football. I think Kyra is only

96
00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna get healthier, only gonna get more familiar with the scheme.

97
00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,760
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's one of those weeks where

98
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, what did.

99
00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,320
Speaker 2: You have, Josh jobs KB ten? You know, Allen's in

100
00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,000
Speaker 2: a tough match.

101
00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,599
Speaker 1: Herbert hasn't been quite as good lately, so I think

102
00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,159
Speaker 1: Kyle Murray deserves to be in the top ten. Didn't

103
00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,640
Speaker 1: really see any kind of red flags last week.

104
00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were way more pass heavy last week.

105
00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,760
Speaker 3: I think it was the fourth highest pass rate on

106
00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,640
Speaker 3: early downs in like a neutral situation, which wasn't great

107
00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,719
Speaker 3: for my under on his passing our prop but he

108
00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,920
Speaker 3: almost stayed under somehow. If they just like Pied McBride there,

109
00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,279
Speaker 3: or he just incompletes it, have a shot for that somehow.

110
00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,960
Speaker 3: But clearly they're going to be more willing to be

111
00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,479
Speaker 3: more pass heavy with Kyler back.

112
00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

113
00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,240
Speaker 1: Well, if it makes you feel any better, you did

114
00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,040
Speaker 1: hit the over on the profit, I said on this

115
00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,800
Speaker 1: earlier in the week, So you got one hundred and

116
00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,720
Speaker 1: a half, right, yeah, something like that. Yeah, Yeah, I

117
00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320
Speaker 1: think it was yeah, two hundred, yeah, in that range.

118
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, he looked good. I haven't projected about two

119
00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,560
Speaker 1: thirty this week, so nothing crazy. But against Houston you

120
00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,039
Speaker 1: could get you can get into a shootout with with

121
00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,200
Speaker 1: this team, so and you're in, you're indoors, So yeah,

122
00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, good, good spot for Kyler.

123
00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,400
Speaker 2: Who are you low on a quarterback?

124
00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,840
Speaker 4: A little bit low on Joe Burrow?

125
00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,560
Speaker 3: You know against the Ravens, he's my QB thirteen to

126
00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,680
Speaker 3: open the week, and you know he's playing at a

127
00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,560
Speaker 3: really high level right now. That's five straight games of

128
00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,160
Speaker 3: multiple touchdowns for him, two straight games of three hundred

129
00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,440
Speaker 3: and forty plus yards. He's you know, clearly over his

130
00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,559
Speaker 3: calf injury, so he looks a lot more mobile. He's

131
00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,800
Speaker 3: tapping into his rushing upside a bit more. But this

132
00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,440
Speaker 3: is just you know, a brutal matchup on Thursday night

133
00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,640
Speaker 3: against the Ravens. You know they've allowed the fewest fantasy

134
00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,279
Speaker 3: points per game to opposing qbs. And you know, Jamar

135
00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,039
Speaker 3: Chase looked great, He played through the back injury just fine.

136
00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,640
Speaker 3: So I think we can trust Burrows like a low

137
00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,400
Speaker 3: on QB one, but without T Higgins that that does

138
00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,200
Speaker 3: ding him just a little bit. So you know, I

139
00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,919
Speaker 3: think we can still trust Burrow, but more is like

140
00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,920
Speaker 3: I'll low on QB one, whereas going forward, I think

141
00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,880
Speaker 3: he could be like a top five quarterback the rest

142
00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,159
Speaker 3: of the way, but this week specifically, I'm much lower

143
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,720
Speaker 3: on him.

144
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those divisional matchups, going against Baltimore

145
00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,280
Speaker 1: without T short weeks, so probably he's not going to

146
00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,239
Speaker 1: be a massive, massive day for him, but we shall see.

147
00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,240
Speaker 1: I have him pretty well, so I have him. Yeah,

148
00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm QB. You're eighteen, so yeah, I.

149
00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,040
Speaker 2: Think, what do you happen?

150
00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,720
Speaker 4: Q twelve thirteen?

151
00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,080
Speaker 2: So I don't even know?

152
00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680
Speaker 3: Oh damn, but you probably like even though you have

153
00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,520
Speaker 3: him ranked low, you'd probably start him over a guy

154
00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,440
Speaker 3: like I don't know who you haven't ranked over, but

155
00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,080
Speaker 3: like like a Russell Wilson or someone like that.

156
00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's probably mean in that range.

157
00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,440
Speaker 2: It is tight, you know, probably.

158
00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, moving T Higgins not idea, and going

159
00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,560
Speaker 1: against the top defense is also not idea.

160
00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just it's one of those weeks. Just

161
00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,800
Speaker 2: don't love it.

162
00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,280
Speaker 1: I'd rather take my chance with the guy like Josh

163
00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,160
Speaker 1: Dobbs or Sam Howe or somebody like that. But I

164
00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,360
Speaker 1: am low on Josh Allen, and now I don't have

165
00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,240
Speaker 1: them like outside of startuple range, but I do have

166
00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,640
Speaker 1: the mouse out of the top five. I think, you know,

167
00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,960
Speaker 1: this Jets defense is one we have to lower expectations

168
00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760
Speaker 1: for Allen against. And of course they just fired their

169
00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:24,880
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey, so there's that. But the Jets

170
00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,960
Speaker 1: defense in the last three meetings versus Josh Allen has

171
00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,960
Speaker 1: held him to one hundred and ninety six passing yards

172
00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,920
Speaker 1: per game, two touchdowns, five picks, and overall, you know,

173
00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,679
Speaker 1: passing and rushing combined two hundred and fifty two total

174
00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,840
Speaker 1: yards on average, with just four total touchdowns and six turnovers.

175
00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,480
Speaker 1: So this is not the usual Josh Allen that we

176
00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,520
Speaker 1: normally get against his Jets defense. And you know, even

177
00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,320
Speaker 1: though they're switching coordinator, this offense is clearly out of sort,

178
00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,840
Speaker 1: so they would have fired their offensive coordinator in the

179
00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,360
Speaker 1: first place. So I think it's gonna be another tough,

180
00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,240
Speaker 1: tough match. But they look like they found something with

181
00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,760
Speaker 1: James Cook down a stretch, you know, him dribbling the

182
00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,120
Speaker 1: football all over the place and getting big yards while

183
00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,559
Speaker 1: doing it. I mean, he was playing some and one

184
00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,719
Speaker 1: football out there. But yeah, I think I think it's

185
00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,800
Speaker 1: a tough it's gonna be a tough week for Josh.

186
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,359
Speaker 2: Now, all right, what do you have for props?

187
00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,520
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna have some fun here. You know, sometimes

188
00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,560
Speaker 3: it's it's fun to project somebody that's just like playing

189
00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,040
Speaker 3: way above expectations, like Pukuna Kua after the first week

190
00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,440
Speaker 3: or two.

191
00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:31,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

192
00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 3: I like projecting guys in the other direction too, like

193
00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,480
Speaker 3: awful awful players.

194
00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,199
Speaker 4: Like Tommy DeVito.

195
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,880
Speaker 3: So let's let's project his passing yards. It's insignificant for

196
00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,320
Speaker 3: fancy purposes, but for like player props and things like that,

197
00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,280
Speaker 3: it's gonna be really fun to see what they put out. So,

198
00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:59,320
Speaker 3: assuming he starts against Commanders, I have his opening line at,

199
00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,480
Speaker 3: oh man, where do I want to set this? Uh?

200
00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,440
Speaker 4: One thirty four and a half?

201
00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,959
Speaker 2: One thirty four and a half.

202
00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,760
Speaker 1: Uh, I'll go, I'll go over. The Commander's defense is

203
00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,280
Speaker 1: not very good, you know, the pressure is not is

204
00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,760
Speaker 1: not going to be there as much with that young

205
00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,280
Speaker 1: and sweat and de Vito.

206
00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,440
Speaker 2: Let's see what is he average about? Just under five

207
00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,600
Speaker 2: yards in attempt.

208
00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,880
Speaker 1: So he would need pretty good but like, what's that

209
00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:35,120
Speaker 1: twenty thirty thirty, No, not even thirty twenty five, like

210
00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,880
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven attempts. I mean, that's he got

211
00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,440
Speaker 1: twenty seven against Dallas, but you know, obviously a much

212
00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,040
Speaker 1: tougher defense. So yeah, I'll bank on him hitting a

213
00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,680
Speaker 1: big player too against this Washington defense. I mean, the

214
00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,559
Speaker 1: Giants always own Washington, right, It's it's just it's weird.

215
00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,959
Speaker 1: Things always happen when the Giants play Washington, and you know,

216
00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,200
Speaker 1: da Vito in at the end of that Raider game,

217
00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,880
Speaker 1: he was fifteen to twenty for one hundred and seventy

218
00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm in a touchdown and you know, kind of garbage time.

219
00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not like he's completely like we've never

220
00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,880
Speaker 1: seen him complete a path longer than ten yards or something.

221
00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll go, I'll go over. But I mean,

222
00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,520
Speaker 1: what do they have Barkley.

223
00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,480
Speaker 2: And Easton and waiting in the wings too, So yeah,

224
00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,720
Speaker 2: I could get That's what I'm thinking.

225
00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,120
Speaker 4: That's what I like it.

226
00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,400
Speaker 2: You're already thanking now.

227
00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame him either direction, Like there's really no

228
00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,560
Speaker 3: point to anything right now. But you know, I think

229
00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,400
Speaker 3: that his prop might be a little bit higher than that.

230
00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,640
Speaker 3: But you know it was fun trying to set that,

231
00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,760
Speaker 3: to say the least.

232
00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,160
Speaker 2: But I think there is it was not fun at all.

233
00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,959
Speaker 2: I had a blast.

234
00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,880
Speaker 3: I wonder, yeah, they might not even have a prop

235
00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,600
Speaker 3: for him, so maybe this is a waste of time.

236
00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,120
Speaker 4: But it was.

237
00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,240
Speaker 3: You know, it's not quite the Kendall Hinton bad, but

238
00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,840
Speaker 3: you know it's bad right now for sure.

239
00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,040
Speaker 2: Kendall Hinton, what a guy. I can't believe that that

240
00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,960
Speaker 2: What was the line on that game?

241
00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520
Speaker 1: It was like it was like it was like it

242
00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,240
Speaker 1: was twenties or something, right, the totals like I think

243
00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:05,840
Speaker 1: thirty one.

244
00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to remember that. It was like Saints

245
00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,800
Speaker 2: by fourteen with the titles like thirty one ors.

246
00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,680
Speaker 4: So I don't know if we had to hitt and prop.

247
00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,600
Speaker 3: I remember like hitting like there was like a Jerry

248
00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,120
Speaker 3: Judy or no Fant prop or something like that. They're

249
00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,960
Speaker 3: they're receiving yards. That's all we had access to. But yeah,

250
00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:24,880
Speaker 3: that that was fun.

251
00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope that you does a little better though

252
00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,880
Speaker 2: he does sound doesn't he sound.

253
00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,360
Speaker 1: Like kind of like some guy from New York that

254
00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,560
Speaker 1: just want a contest to start for the Giants.

255
00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh for me, fly out of Brooklyn like a Lotland

256
00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,760
Speaker 2: Like it's just like, yeah, it's crazy, but he still

257
00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,480
Speaker 2: was with his parents.

258
00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,360
Speaker 4: I mean, Jesus, yeah, it's it's a whole thing.

259
00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,960
Speaker 1: But hey, like I said, the commanders they do this,

260
00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,000
Speaker 1: they do they do wear things against the giants.

261
00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,240
Speaker 2: So uh, all right, let's go to running back. We

262
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,040
Speaker 2: got in top five.

263
00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:02,640
Speaker 3: I got Christi McCaffrey, Austin Eckler, Travis Etn, Tony Pollard

264
00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,120
Speaker 3: what the hell? And then we're getting really spicy here

265
00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,199
Speaker 3: with Javonte Williams as my RB.

266
00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:14,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got McCaffrey, Ecker ETN. Jacobs, and Breis Hall, which.

267
00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling great about, so boom or bust like

268
00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,160
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this, it's like if he doesn't

269
00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,480
Speaker 1: break a big run and the offensive line is getting,

270
00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,559
Speaker 1: you know, more and more banged up, it's this guy's

271
00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,679
Speaker 1: averaging with three yards to carry and I don't think

272
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,640
Speaker 1: he's had a run logger and.

273
00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,480
Speaker 2: Ten.

274
00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's had a fifteen yard run in

275
00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,880
Speaker 1: it's like week five or something like that. It's been

276
00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,080
Speaker 1: a struggle for for Breese on the ground. But I

277
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,520
Speaker 1: gotta I'll stick with him for now. But yeah, I've

278
00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,160
Speaker 1: Paul is another one I have. I don't want him

279
00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,440
Speaker 1: in my top five either, So yeah, we'll see. It

280
00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,559
Speaker 1: was maybe Han would come back and just put him there.

281
00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah who you high on?

282
00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,640
Speaker 3: Well, I'm high on Davante Williams. You know, I just

283
00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,920
Speaker 3: let it ride on Tuesday morning. So you know he's

284
00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,560
Speaker 3: my RB five and for good reason too. You know,

285
00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,320
Speaker 3: similar to Bresee Hall, we've seen Javonte just slowly work

286
00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,839
Speaker 3: his way into the lead role coming back from you know,

287
00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,640
Speaker 3: a significant injury last year in an ACL tear. But lately,

288
00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,040
Speaker 3: you know, he's been dominating you know, the rushing work,

289
00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,840
Speaker 3: and while he doesn't run you know, as many routes

290
00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,040
Speaker 3: as you'd like for lead back, he still gets targeted

291
00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,080
Speaker 3: very heavily on those routes when he's on the field,

292
00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,080
Speaker 3: right around like a thirty percent rate, so that it

293
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,040
Speaker 3: still allows him to get you know, three to four

294
00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,000
Speaker 3: receptions a game.

295
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:35,680
Speaker 4: Plus.

296
00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,280
Speaker 3: You know, over this three game win streak that the

297
00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,040
Speaker 3: Broncos have definitely been leaning on the run, not just

298
00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,520
Speaker 3: because they had a leading game script. You know, they

299
00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,560
Speaker 3: had the ninth highest early down run rate in neutral situations,

300
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,960
Speaker 3: so they're definitely trying to run the ball a lot more.

301
00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,600
Speaker 3: There slight home favorites here, so just a lot of

302
00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,720
Speaker 3: different factors why he's you know, popping in my model.

303
00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,160
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's pretty tight. You know, from like

304
00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,320
Speaker 3: RB five to like RB fourteen, it's like less than

305
00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,120
Speaker 3: a point separate it everybody. So his his rank could

306
00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,520
Speaker 3: go down a bit, but as of now, he's checking

307
00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,960
Speaker 3: all the right boxes and like I said, just seeing

308
00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,280
Speaker 3: enough work in the passing game to give him that

309
00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,280
Speaker 3: top five upside.

310
00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,880
Speaker 4: So I'm high on him.

311
00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,000
Speaker 3: And then, uh, you know, we're kind of souring on

312
00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,600
Speaker 3: Tony Poller for good reason, but that's kind of why

313
00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,240
Speaker 3: I'm high on Rico Dowdell right now. You know, he's

314
00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,880
Speaker 3: my RB forty right now. So it's not like I'm

315
00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,560
Speaker 3: projecting him as an RB three flex option quite yet.

316
00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,000
Speaker 3: But you know, if Pollard does continue to struggle, you know,

317
00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,360
Speaker 3: Dowdell has been the more efficient runner, he could start

318
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,120
Speaker 3: to eat into Poller's workload even in non blowout games.

319
00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,600
Speaker 3: Uh so he's essentially turning into the Tony Poller from

320
00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,200
Speaker 3: last year and Pollard Zeke Elliott. So you know, we

321
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,000
Speaker 3: could see him split more work and I don't think

322
00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,880
Speaker 3: he has the same chances of leap frogging Pollard to say,

323
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,400
Speaker 3: like a Chuber Hubber and Singletary that we were talking

324
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,760
Speaker 3: about a few weeks ago. But it's it's definitely a

325
00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,080
Speaker 3: non zero chance. And this week against the Panthers, you know,

326
00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,960
Speaker 3: Cowboys are big favorites. This is a great matchup for

327
00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,440
Speaker 3: running backs. You can get away with playing Dawdle as

328
00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080
Speaker 3: like an RB three flex play, but I just think

329
00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,880
Speaker 3: right now he has RB two injury upside at least,

330
00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, playing behind Pollard, So he's worth a stash

331
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:22,760
Speaker 3: right now.

332
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,640
Speaker 4: And who knows he could.

333
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,640
Speaker 3: Carve out a role where he's you know, producing flex

334
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,480
Speaker 3: value even with the healthy Pollard. So having said that,

335
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm high on Dowdell, you know, short term for this

336
00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,600
Speaker 3: matchup and potentially long term.

337
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,280
Speaker 1: Caroline has been one of the worst run defenses. Yeah

338
00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,160
Speaker 1: in we this year they are.

339
00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,560
Speaker 4: Thirty second thirty, first thirty.

340
00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they and the Broncos keep flip flopping right there.

341
00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the brock I mean, the Broncus just have that outlier.

342
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:57,280
Speaker 1: So Calina for purposes is probably probably did last. I

343
00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,240
Speaker 1: am high on Jaylen Warren. Jalen Warren, you know he

344
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,000
Speaker 1: is kind of doing what we thought he would do

345
00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,199
Speaker 1: in the offseason, and that's wheat frog Naji Harris. Now

346
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,439
Speaker 1: you're starting to get Tomlin essentially saying hey, yeah, like

347
00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,639
Speaker 1: this is this guy's going to be our our starting

348
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,040
Speaker 1: running back. So I'm expecting Warren's usage to continue to

349
00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,000
Speaker 1: go up. It's a tough match up against Cleveland, but

350
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,520
Speaker 1: I still think, you know, he should be ranked above

351
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,240
Speaker 1: Harris and he's still not in ECR, so like him.

352
00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,840
Speaker 1: You know, he had fifty round on fifty percent of

353
00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,360
Speaker 1: the dropbacks last week and had one fewer carry than

354
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,520
Speaker 1: Naji Harris. So this week, I think you probably see

355
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,040
Speaker 1: Warren get more carries.

356
00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,600
Speaker 2: And continue to run more routes.

357
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,480
Speaker 1: So, uh, he is inside my top twenty five running

358
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,840
Speaker 1: backs for this week. Now he is not so like

359
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,520
Speaker 1: Larren Man.

360
00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,480
Speaker 4: What was what was Tomman's like exact quote? Like, was

361
00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,280
Speaker 4: he like I didn't see that?

362
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,520
Speaker 3: Like, is he he's saying he is absolutely our starter?

363
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,280
Speaker 3: Or was he kind of just alluding to it?

364
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 2: Or so he's been So he was announced as a

365
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280
Speaker 2: starter like in the in the game or whatever. You know.

366
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so that was last week and he got

367
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 1: his highest you know, highest worklow like he got. He

368
00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,639
Speaker 1: essentially was equal and carries and ran more route so

369
00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,800
Speaker 1: he had his highest workload of the season, said Tom.

370
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,240
Speaker 2: And told him he was the starter of the night before.

371
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 4: Oh wow.

372
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,040
Speaker 3: So yes, and George Pickens was not announced as a starter.

373
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,439
Speaker 3: He was complaining about not seeing a targets, so Tomlin

374
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,160
Speaker 3: didn't let him get announced as the starters.

375
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 4: He saw that too, Geez.

376
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 2: I didn't. I I did not see that. That's I'm

377
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,040
Speaker 2: not a surprise.

378
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean Pickens is you know that after that blow

379
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,159
Speaker 1: up on what was it the Thursday night?

380
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 2: And I'm not surprised he's been He's still a young guy.

381
00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,000
Speaker 1: And you know Tom's going to kind of give him

382
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 1: some tough love exactly. But yeah, no, Jamon Warren, I mean,

383
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 1: finally this guy because he was already kind of you know,

384
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,439
Speaker 1: coming out of the by.

385
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 2: Inching up there a little bit in terms of his workflow.

386
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,040
Speaker 2: But last week was.

387
00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 1: The first time where he really of drew even Weetnaujie

388
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 1: and carries and then surpassed him in routes.

389
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,199
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like him to continue to do that.

390
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Who are you, Lowa, I'm.

391
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,400
Speaker 3: Low on Saquon Barkley again. You know, having RB twenty two,

392
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 3: ECR has some RB twelve for some reason. You know,

393
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 3: I mentioned I was low him last week, and it

394
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 3: just has nothing to do with Barkley specifically, just with

395
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 3: Tommy David Owner Center. That's just a huge drop off

396
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 3: from you know, Daniel Jones and Tyrod Taylor. Even so,

397
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 3: this this offense just will not function a way that

398
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 3: will set up Barkley for success. You know, early on

399
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 3: in the game, you know, teams can just focus more

400
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 3: on slowing down Barkley, and then later in the game,

401
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 3: when you you could see dump offs to Barkley, why

402
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 3: even risk it and have him out there. So that's

403
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 3: kind of what we saw. They took him out pretty

404
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 3: early last week. You know, he's still a low end

405
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 3: RB two I think just based on talent alone, but

406
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 3: running backs they do need their their offense to be

407
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 3: successful and set them up, you know, for some success

408
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 3: that that just isn't happening him for him right now.

409
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 3: And you know, another stud running back that I'm low

410
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 3: on is Derrick Henry against the Jaguars. You know, he's

411
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 3: my RB seventeen right now. He's coming off a dud

412
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 3: where Taj spears again outscored him just thanks to being

413
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 3: a you know, a trailing game script that's typically gonna

414
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 3: be much much better for Spears. Could be a similar

415
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: situation this week because you know, the Titans are close

416
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 3: to seven point underdogs against the Jaguars, who ranked third

417
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: in DVO against the run, So it's gonna be tough

418
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 3: for Henry even early in the game to get going.

419
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 3: So as of now, for this matchup, I view him

420
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: as a more of a mid range RB two than

421
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 3: RB one, which is where Ecier has him right now.

422
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a been a tough year for Henry,

423
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: I think just I mean, if he hasn't looked bad,

424
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, and he hasn't been a little more

425
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 1: involved in the pass game, but like his underlying usage

426
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: is just not quite where it was throughout you know,

427
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: most of that stretch you know now that Spears is

428
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: getting you know, kind of two thirds of the I

429
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 1: mean a third of the snaps. He never really shared

430
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: the backfield like that before. So or in a minute, So, yeah,

431
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: he is. I was surprised to see him, Uh where

432
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: do I have him seventeenth? Yeah, I was surprised to

433
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: see him that well, in my rankings as well. I'm

434
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 1: on Dowgie Harris. I mean kind of just explained it

435
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: for uh this, you know, this kind of backfield. You're

436
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: starting to see a changing of the guard here, and

437
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: it's not an easy matchup. So I don't you know,

438
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: some some of those matchups, like last week against Green Bay.

439
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: You so both backs be productive, but in this one,

440
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland's number one in d v A against the run.

441
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: They're six and DVOA on passes to running backs. So

442
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. And if Pittsburgh gets down in

443
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: the game, you can see an even a bigger split

444
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: with you know, Warren, you know, seeing a lot more

445
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 1: snaps because I think he's kind of the preferred you know,

446
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: passing down back, you know, more explosive of guy Nause.

447
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: He's probably going to get more work if they're in

448
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: clock killing mode. And I mean Steelers are under underdog

449
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: Tomlin spot so's not going to count the Steelers games

450
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: positive games at all. But still, you know, in terms

451
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: of a medium projection, Naji Harris, I have him outside

452
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: the top thirty, is still in the top just outside

453
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: the top twenty five and the ECRs, so I think

454
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: I think he's going to keep probably gonna keep dropping

455
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: as more people kind of look at the numbers from

456
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: last week and how the slash broke down. But overall, yeah,

457
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: I think I think, you know, Nase's tough because I

458
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: know he was draft He was drafted pretty high, right,

459
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: what top fifteen or twenty yeah, top.

460
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: For two, definitely top fifteen.

461
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had to be RB twelve or thirteen and

462
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: ADP Yeah yeah, somebody with a shipload of Jalen Warren

463
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: shares it's about damn time.

464
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 4: Not that Nause has looked bad this year. Just Warren

465
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 4: looks better.

466
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and he has it would mean that's been the

467
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: issue you know last year too.

468
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

469
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh by the way, how about that Keaton Mitchell

470
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: prop You.

471
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: Said, oh my god, I had it and then he

472
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: lost it.

473
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: So he had thirty nine yards on the first play

474
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 3: the game, Think, okay, what and he fit?

475
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 4: What what do he do? Like?

476
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 2: He lost?

477
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: Like he lost like five yards on the next two carries,

478
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: and and I went that was it.

479
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: I did see.

480
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean he was playing through the hamstring injury. I

481
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: saw Harbat say they want to get him more touches

482
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 3: going forward, no ship, But he also had a long

483
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: reception too, So I just I had no idea that

484
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: I lost that bet.

485
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't believe it either.

486
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: I was, but I told I told you he was

487
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: probably only gonna get like RB three, like where you

488
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: only got like four or five.

489
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 4: Touches, And I said, I don't care. He could still

490
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: pop off for a picture. Both.

491
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it was a classic situation where you're both right, right,

492
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: you got the you won the bet, fair and square,

493
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: but damn like yeah, like he he does deserve more

494
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: work going forward. Uh, hopefully this hamstring injury go away soon.

495
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm a bit worried that they plan such a short week,

496
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: but yeah, he just looks explosive out there. And I

497
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: think Gus Edwards still has his role, but you know,

498
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 3: Mitchell can absolutely overtake this backfield over the next couple weeks.

499
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: Well that's good because we we are going to go

500
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: with a key Mitchell prop. And so he had last

501
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: week he had seventy one on four touches. The week

502
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: before he had one hundred and thirty four yards on

503
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: ten touches.

504
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows here for trying to set this line,

505
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'd put it up.

506
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of I'm looking at my projections now

507
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to see like.

508
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: How I mightn't update the Yeah.

509
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 3: No, no props for him up yet, but there are

510
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: Gus Edwards props.

511
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's no. I want to do Mitchell because

512
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: Mitchell's really the game.

513
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 3: I know just by looking at their prop Yeah, I

514
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: can kind of tell where they'd set Mitchell up.

515
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: All right, let's see, so rushing and receiving yards right, yep.

516
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with forty four and a half.

517
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 3: I wrote down forty seven and a half. Forty four

518
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 3: and a half is a really good number. I want

519
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: to be investing in. It's over though, so give me

520
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 3: the over.

521
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured I figured that's that's where you'd go.

522
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 3: But they Yeah, they have Gus Edwards at forty seven

523
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: and a half yards, which I think is a bit

524
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: too high.

525
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: I think it's a bit too high.

526
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: I have him.

527
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: I have him forty eight, so I mean I think

528
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: they're I mean that's just to open a week, but yeah,

529
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: I have him, I have him right on around here.

530
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: So though you have Mitchell getting a bump from from

531
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: last week, Justice taking you know, dive, but I'm thinking.

532
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 3: I'm thinking though, with that prop, they will have Mitchell, like,

533
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm assuming we'll get props on him around thirty four

534
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: and a half yards, right around the line I set

535
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: last week. I think that's where it's going to be,

536
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: and I probably wouldn't touch that. I think I would

537
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: be more interested in like a rushing plus receiving prop

538
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: for him, just one more path for a big play

539
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: for him. I think that's kind of the market. I

540
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: would rather invest in him.

541
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean he's because, like you know, he

542
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: had that thirty nine yard run and still ended up

543
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: with thirty four yards last Yeah, yeah, big, so exactly.

544
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, you want the chance to hit both. The

545
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: holiday season is right around the corner and it's about

546
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: to get busy. Don't let that stop you from sticking

547
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: to your habits and being the best version of yourself.

548
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: That's where our friends at Caldera Lab come in.

549
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: One minute in the morning, one minute at night can

550
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: be all the difference you need for clearer skin. These

551
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: guys are the best of the skincare game, and with

552
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: an easy routine, keep your face looking fresh no matter

553
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: your schedule. It's just three steps. One is the clean Slate,

554
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: which is a face wash to start and end your day.

555
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Two the Base Layer, which is a daily moisturizer to

556
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: hydrate your skin. And three is the Good which is

557
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: an I serum you could put on at night to

558
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: help your skin look tighter and smoother. Plus what's about

559
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: gift than queer Skin? Joined the one hundred thousand men

560
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: who trust Caldero Lab to show your best self this

561
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: holiday season. Just for our listeners, we have an exclusive

562
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: deal use code ta in at Caldera Lab dot com

563
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: for twenty percent off Right now, that's twenty percent off

564
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: with code t a and at Caldera Lab dot com.

565
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: Make unforgettable first impressions with Caldera Lab Wide Receiver.

566
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: Top five Who you Got Terry.

567
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: Kill A, j Brown, Keenan Allen, Jamar Chase and Ceedee Lamb.

568
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: I think that that breaks a twenty three week streak

569
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: of Stefan Day being in my top five.

570
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: Tough matchup.

571
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he did get ten catches in the first one,

572
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: so I guess it's not like it's for him.

573
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: It's probably tougher for Josh and for.

574
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: Him specifically, But yeah, I have I have the same

575
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: top five a little different order Hill, A. J. Brown,

576
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Cde Lamb third, Yeah, Chase four and uh Keaton five.

577
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, same same idea. And I already like the

578
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: guys you're high on, but who you got?

579
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in the top forty it seems pretty straightforward.

580
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: There's not many guys I'm like way higher on. So

581
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: I'm just going to highlight a couple of wide receiver

582
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: four bench type guys I think offer upside you know,

583
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: this week end going forward. But the first one is

584
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson. He's my wide receiver forty four. So again

585
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: you're probably not starting him in most leagues, but you

586
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: know they're facing the Texans, this game has a shootout potential.

587
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: It's the highest total of the week right now. I

588
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: believe you know. And I mentioned when you were talking

589
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: about Kyler earlier that the Cards have been run heavy

590
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: all year, but last week they had the fourth highest

591
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: pass rate on early downs in neutral situations. So that's

592
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: a good sign for the entire passing offense going forward.

593
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: Big for a pass catcher like Wilson, who's essentially discount

594
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: Gabe Davis, Like if you look at his underlying data,

595
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: he looks exactly like Gabe Davis.

596
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: To me.

597
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: You know, he has an A out of fifty. He's

598
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: a target rateer on fifteen percent most weeks, so he's

599
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: capable of having spiked weeks, but also has established a

600
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: pretty good floor. You know, has four straight games of

601
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: three or more receptions, so he's he's like a really

602
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: sneaky play to have if you're like a big underdog

603
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: like I rather play a guy like him than like

604
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: an Elijah Moore type who's more of a safer, high

605
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: floor option. So it's always good to have like the

606
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson types in your back pocket, you know, similar

607
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: like Deshaun Jackson or Robbie Anderson, guys like that. I

608
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: think he's kind of in that mold and the other guys.

609
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: Jalen Geiten, you know, he's my wide receiver. Fifty six

610
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: ECR still has him outside of the top seventy. I

611
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: think they're just recycling last week's rank. He's gonna be

612
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: much higher once people update their projections. But I was

613
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: on him last week after that zero catch game because

614
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: he was running out on seventy five percent of Herbert's dropbacks,

615
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: and Quinn Johnson just might not be ready to step

616
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: up as the number two receivers, so Geiden could be

617
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: that guy. Last week, you know, he had a solid

618
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: four catch, forty one yard game with the touchdown. So

619
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: he's another just high upside wide receiver four where some

620
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: weeks he might be Herbert's number two target, number two

621
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: or number three targets. So he's worth a flyer again

622
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: if you're more of an underdog type, I think he

623
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: has a high ceiling, but he's definitely some guy to

624
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: stash in deeper leagues.

625
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you just won that.

626
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: I think I still line it like thirty six and

627
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: a half and if he finished like thirty.

628
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've been on it.

629
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: But you got any touchdown? Yeah, yeah, he had a

630
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: much better game. He scored the touchdown, but mid thirties

631
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: his probably his median right now, which isn't great, but

632
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: he should only get better.

633
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like Wilson too, you know, a good time

634
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: to start investing in. Always want to start to invest

635
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: in these rookies, you know, second half of the season,

636
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: speaking of which I mean it just just rinse and

637
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: repeat every week.

638
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: Tank down.

639
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's my wide receiver ten. He's wide receiver twenty

640
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: two in ECR.

641
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

642
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: And I have projected I have him number ten with

643
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Nico Collins projected to return. So I, you know, I

644
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: just think that you have Kyler murrayback that adds a

645
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: little bit of life to the Arizona pass offense. You're

646
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: not going to necessarily get in as much of a

647
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, run heavy game script as you might if

648
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Arizona was still you know, I don't want to say Dobbs,

649
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: but but I think he was now. He wasn't great

650
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: for that last month with the Cardinals, so but their

651
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: thirtieth and pass defense Dvoa and Tank Dell is on

652
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: the year, you know, the wide receiver sixteen in points

653
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: per game. But remember he had, you know, a couple

654
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: of games where he got hurt and well, in that

655
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: first game of the year, he wasn't really playing as

656
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 1: much because they had Woods and Brown starting, and then

657
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: he had another game where he got hurt.

658
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: So he had two games under fifty percent routes run.

659
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: And he's still the wide receiver sixteen in points per game.

660
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: And that's because, you know, since coming back from that concussion,

661
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: he's running route on an average of nine percent of

662
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: the dropacks and he's been above eighty two percent in

663
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: every other game. So he has two games under fifty,

664
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: but eighty to eighty four eighty two in the first half,

665
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, before going down, and then ninety three eighty

666
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: seven ninety eight percent since coming back.

667
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: So you know he's.

668
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: Whether Mico's in or rout Brown Woods, whoever it is,

669
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: this guy is going to be on a field about

670
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: eighty to one hundred percent.

671
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Of the time essentially, like we we know that.

672
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: So I have n't pretty conservatively projected for an eight

673
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: eighty three percent route run rate, which is his season

674
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: medium with the you know, the two games that he

675
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: was below fifty, and he's still my wide receivers, so

676
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: he might actually rise if if he's go, Cowins is

677
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: ends up indeed being out because Robert Woods is just

678
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: not going to command the same type of target per

679
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: route run rate share that that Collins would, so like,

680
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: love me some tank down yet again, so you've got

681
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: to keep hammering.

682
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: He's just such a good route runner. Yeah, it's just absurd.

683
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, in this wide receiver room, just it's been a

684
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: mess that we haven't seen everybody healthy yet. So a

685
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: few weeks, agoes like be careful at Robert Woods. Noah,

686
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: Brown's back, and then last week I was saying be

687
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: careful about Noah Brown. Robert Woods is back, and then

688
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: Nico Collins is out. But at the end of the day,

689
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: the only guy that we can absolutely trust is like

690
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: a fringe wide receiver one. No matter what is Tank Dell.

691
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: I think if Nico returns this week, like that's gonna

692
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: hurt you know, Brown, obviously Wood.

693
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: I think Woods is going to be the odd man out.

694
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like no Browns.

695
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean he's had went back to back one hundred

696
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: and fifty our games at this point, Well, it's gotta

697
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: be Woods is the number four.

698
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, but I think, yeah,

699
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: Nico probably won't be producing as a high end wide

700
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: receiver two anymore because Noah Brown deserves targets now.

701
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: But c J.

702
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: Stroud is good enough to support three or four fantasy

703
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: relevant pass catchers. We've we've arrived at that point. But

704
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: no matter how it shakes out, Tank Dell's always going

705
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: to be like a top fifteen wide receiver, is what

706
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: I've realized over the past few weeks.

707
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what this this reminds me of Remember that.

708
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: A couple of years Remember when the pre injury Dak

709
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: had or not. I don't even know if it was

710
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: pre injury, but when Dallas didn't have like a great

711
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: defense yet and Jack was throwing for like three hundred

712
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: and three fifty every week, and they had like Cooper,

713
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: Cee lam Gallop, Cedric Wilson, Dug like all of them

714
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: were Fantasy relevant essentially.

715
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 4: That was like the year he played just the first

716
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: four games and then got hurt.

717
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, four or five ti week, and I think

718
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: the year before I think like those when Cooper was

719
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: still there essentially, so because there was a year when

720
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: like Wilson and Gallup kind of each played only like

721
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: like Gallup point played nine games and then Wilson filled in,

722
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: but they both finished as like top fifty receivers.

723
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: It was That's what this reminds me of.

724
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: Cooper, Gallup and Lamb all just top twenty receivers I remember.

725
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: And then Brown and Cedric Wilson were both getting like

726
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 4: twenty five percent routes run per game and like deep flyers. Yeah,

727
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: and uh, Dalton Schultz, I think he was already established

728
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: by then, but yeah, yeah, that was also solid.

729
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it was so and it's like now

730
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: you got schultzon Brown here, so it's kind of just

731
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: you're just running it back on it in a different

732
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: part of Texas.

733
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: Maybe Schultz is the key to the whole thing.

734
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's balling. He's balling too.

735
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean everyone's but Strouders is making these guys into stars.

736
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: That's that's really the bottom line.

737
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, when you have a great quarterback, that's

738
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So uh yeah, Like like Tank Dell,

739
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: who are you low on?

740
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: Uh? So these these two guys I was super high

741
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 4: on a few weeks ago. Uh.

742
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: And the first guy is Jordan Addison. You know, he

743
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: stepped up with Justin Jefferson out, which wasn't too surprising.

744
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: But with Jefferson potentially returning, you know, and kJ Osborne

745
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: also like you're returning, there's a decent chance Addison goes

746
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: back to the number three wide receiver role. You know,

747
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: hopefully he's proven him off enough now to be the

748
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: wide receiver in two wide sets and leap frog Osborne.

749
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 3: But it's it's not a guarantee, so he could see

750
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: a hit with that. Plus, you know, while Dobbs has

751
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 3: been amazing, he doesn't offer the same passing upside as

752
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins because he's much more willing to scramble. You know,

753
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: he's running for forty to sixty yards a game, so

754
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: that's going to take away from players like Addison. Plus

755
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: you know TJ. Hockkinson has become even more of a

756
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: target monster. So it's just gonna be hard for you know,

757
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Dobbs to feed all these players. So I just think

758
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: of Addison back to where he was earlier in the season,

759
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: where you know, he kind of needs a touchdown to

760
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: have fancy value. I don't know if he could bank

761
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: on five catches for sixty yards right now. So he's

762
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: more of like a you know, a really low end

763
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: wide receiver flex with a ton of upside based on talent.

764
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: But with Justin Jefferson returning, you know, I'm much lower

765
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: on him than ECR right now. And the other guy

766
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: was Rashid Rice. You know, he's established himself as the

767
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: Chiefs number one receiver. You know, his routes are on right,

768
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: is stabilized around sixty percent, But now that he's getting

769
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: all this playing time, his target rates taking a hit.

770
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: He has a twenty four percent target rate on the season,

771
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: but it's only sixteen percent over the last four It's

772
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: almost like the Chiefs don't target the receivers that are

773
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: out there all the time, and you target the guys

774
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: to just play a few snaps. It's just been a

775
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: headache projecting the receivers all year and Rice is no different.

776
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: So again, the offense flows through Travis Kelce, just making

777
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: this wide receiver room very volatile. You know, we could see,

778
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: you know, Miko Harbin's role grow a little bit going forward.

779
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: I think Richie James is returning this week. So it's

780
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: just a mess right now. So I have Rice outside

781
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: of my top forty right now, where ECR has him

782
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty two, well off to investigate that could

783
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: be an issue on my end, but I'm much lower

784
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: on him than ECR right now.

785
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five, so I'm a little old with an ECR,

786
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: but higher than you. I just you know, number one,

787
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: I think coming out of the buy rookie wide receiver

788
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: second half of the year has been receiver. I just

789
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: like those are usually situations on targets, So I don't

790
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: want to fade him too much. I just kind of

791
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: have him, have him for sixty percent routes run which

792
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: is basically his average over the past three games. And

793
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's where I'm landing at wide receiver thirty five. Uh,

794
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: I am low on Deontay Johnson. He's my wide receiver

795
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven. He's twenty eight in ECR. And this Cleveland

796
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: defense is tough. It looks like Denzel Ward escape with

797
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: just like a next strain and from that dirty hit.

798
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: So it sounds like he's gonna play this weekend.

799
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a problem because this Cleveland defense

800
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: is number one in DVOA against the path, the number

801
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: one in DVA against number one wide receivers. And we've

802
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: already seen Deontay Johnson's floor. He had just one catch

803
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: for seventeen yards last week on four targets. So and

804
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: remember he still only had one touchdown over the past

805
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: like what two years and change, So you don't have

806
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: a ton of touchdown equity. You're playing a you're playing

807
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: the top defense in the league. You know your floor

808
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 1: is one or two catches. You know at some point

809
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get a Pickings bounce back. It's just

810
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: you even could get Friar moves back. He's eligible to

811
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: come off that I haven't heard anything. It's early in

812
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: the week, but he's eligible I believe to come off.

813
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: So just in can you Pickett? I mean, he's just

814
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: not playing well.

815
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: So I don't want I don't want to have to

816
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: rely on Johnson as like wide receiver too, or even

817
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: if I'm starting him like as a wide receiver for

818
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: flex if I can help it, Like, I really don't

819
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: want to start him this week against Cleveland at all.

820
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: All right, where are you going for props?

821
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go which Seattle wide receiver will have

822
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: more receiving yards this week against the Rams? Tire Lockett

823
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: or DK Metcalf.

824
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Who's a favorite?

825
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: Just a case of I'll.

826
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: Say Lockett's a favorite by minus a half yard. It

827
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: seems like this happens every year where Lockett's drafted way

828
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: lower than Metcalf and by this time here I'm projecting

829
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 3: him higher.

830
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm high on every time we do

831
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: as the pod, I'm like Kyler Locket, that's the.

832
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Guy high on?

833
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: Like this guy is that gonna change next year? You think? Wow?

834
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: Okay to me?

835
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't blame you, but yeah, he's

836
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: getting up there in age. But it doesn't matter. Still

837
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: still as good as he was five years ago.

838
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and because I mean, the thing about

839
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: it is the market. Whatever, however much I knock him down,

840
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: the market tends to knock him down like another ten spots.

841
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: So it's like even if he if I do have

842
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: him like as my wire receiver, like thirty five, Mark

843
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: will probably have him like five, I'll still be high.

844
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see you said you said lock is the

845
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: favorite for yardage.

846
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, just minus a half, just to break a tie.

847
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: I actually have DK, So I'm gonna go DK. So

848
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: I have DK about six seven yards higher. The thing

849
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: is Lockett, I have him high with a higher touchdown

850
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: rate because that's like this year, you know, that's what's

851
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: kind of been happening. It's Lockett's really been, you know,

852
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns, and you know that's kind of been where

853
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: he's been getting a lot of his value. He did

854
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: have a slow game in Week one against the Rams,

855
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: just ten yards.

856
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: DK had forty seven.

857
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: So I forget if Lockett was banged up in that

858
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: one or not, But either way, yeah, I think DK's

859
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: DK is usually gonna be the favorite for yards. But Tyler,

860
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: like I mean, just what he does getting open in

861
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone.

862
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Things like that.

863
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: Like he's he's become a better, more prolific touchdown scorer

864
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: than Metcalf these days.

865
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Ye, so yeah, I'll go with I'll go at DK Metcalf.

866
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Metcalf had a season high in a route participation in

867
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: ninety four.

868
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: Percent, So that's a good sign for the kids.

869
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: Should be about that every week. It sounds like you

870
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 3: probably having ranked really close done right.

871
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lockett sixteen, DK twenty.

872
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: So again I have talcket about let's see, I have

873
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: Lockett projected for points four or five touchdowns and DK

874
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: at point three to three, So like that's that's what

875
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: was kind of separate on them. But I do have

876
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: DK with a few more yards but fewer catches, So

877
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: Lockett more catches and more.

878
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: Touchdown all right, can't wait for them to both go

879
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: for sixty four yards and you win by that stupid half.

880
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 4: Yard I gave you.

881
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.

882
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: As a reminder, the Action Network podcast is presented by

883
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: bet MGM used bonus code Action when signing up to

884
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: get up to fifteen hundred dollars paid back in bonus bets.

885
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: If your first bet loses for new users in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan,

886
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

887
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Terms and conditions apply. Must be twenty one or older.

888
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: Gamban problem called one eight hundred gambler All right, tight end?

889
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: Who got tough?

890
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: Up?

891
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey obviously number one, then letting it ride with

892
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: Trey McBride at number two, then TJ Hockinson, Evan Ingram

893
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: and Dalton kin kid.

894
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Oh I got Kelsey Hockinson, Andrews Kittle Laporta so little

895
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: more standards.

896
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: Nice Who you high on?

897
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: Well, I'm high on Trey McBride, you know, he's my

898
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: tight end two to open the up the week, which

899
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: is crazy over TJ Hawkinson right now. But had another

900
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: just massive game last week eight catches for hire and

901
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: thirty one yards. Look great doing it. You know we

902
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: were talking about James Connor, what was it last year

903
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: two years ago? Just he passed the eye tests. He

904
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: was yep, just bawling out. Evan Ingram same thing last year,

905
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: just really turned the corner McBride's looking great right now.

906
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: He's always been, you know, very talented tight end, just

907
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: needed the chance. So his only bad game recently was

908
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: against the Browns with Clayton toon owners center, so we

909
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: got certainly forgiven for that. Uh And as I mentioned,

910
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: the Cardinals were much more pass heavy last week, could

911
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: open up for even more yards for them going forward.

912
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: And Houston's a lot of the most fantasy points per

913
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: game the tight end, so this is a great spot

914
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: for him.

915
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: Could be a shootout with CJ.

916
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: Stroud just tearing it up on the other side, that's

917
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: only going to help somebody like McBride. So that's why

918
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: as of now, you know, it's very close, but he

919
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: has the slight lead over TG Hawkins for me at

920
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: the tight end two slot.

921
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it really depends on Jefferson too, right,

922
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah Jefferson comes back, then you're that's just.

923
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: Cutting into every target chair. But yeah, I have him.

924
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: I have him T six to start the week, so

925
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: I still have like the more standard guys in the

926
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: top five, but McBride is right there for me and

927
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: I will see how the see how the week unfolds.

928
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, Hawkinson's kind of the toughest to rank at

929
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: this point, just because we don't know if Jefferson's coming back,

930
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: and we also haven't seen Dobbs with Jefferson's.

931
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be tough.

932
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: But I am high on Tyler Conklin randomly. I mean

933
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: I guess I randomly, but you know, usually not talking

934
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: about these just Jets passing game. But I have Conklent

935
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: tight end fifteen and ECR has him a couple of

936
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: two three spots lower at Buffalo. Pretty good matchup. They're

937
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: twenty ninth in DVOA against tight ends. And Conkland quietly

938
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: has four or more catches in five of his last

939
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: eight games and fifty or more yards in five of

940
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: his last eight games. He had seven catches seventy yards

941
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: last week, six catches sixty six.

942
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: Yards the week before.

943
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: And this Buffalo defense, you know what, all the safety's

944
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: banged up with Milano out, it's just been a defense

945
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: that you know, they've had to give more help to

946
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: their corners on the outside because Tray White is out.

947
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: So you're just seeing teams start to go to the

948
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: tight end against them. And I mean we saw Lucas

949
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: Kroll being being used a little package last last night

950
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: against or on Monday night football against the against the Bills.

951
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: So I do think Conquin is a guy.

952
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Who you knows kind of sneaky and but you know,

953
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: tight end, you can't really argue with routes and production.

954
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: He's running around about seventy percent of the dropbacks and

955
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 1: he's getting you to four catches over half the time,

956
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: which you can't say that about too many tight ends.

957
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 2: So like Conklin this week.

958
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 3: I'm low on our boy Chiga Kuonku. You know, he's

959
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: just been frustrating this year because you know, he's been

960
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: hoving around the high tight end two fringe ad times.

961
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: It seems like every week he's good for three to

962
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: four catches for thirty to forty yards. You know, we're

963
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: just waiting for him a breakout like we saw last year.

964
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: But last week was probably the final nail in his

965
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: coffin being high end tight end too, because Josh Wiley,

966
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: the rookie, saw a huge increase in playing time. So

967
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: chiggs routes run rate dip below sixty percent I think

968
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: for the first time all year. But yeah, that that

969
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: is not a good sign. And now I think we

970
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: can comfortably rank him as more of a low end

971
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: tight end too. Like I said, he's just kind of

972
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 3: been twaying with the soule season. But you know, as

973
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: of now, I think we can finally move on from check.

974
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the targets.

975
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: The target rate has been above twenty percent in two

976
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: of the three games with Levis. But yeah, when the

977
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: routes are going down, it's tough to kind of get

978
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: behind that because yeah, we don't like, we don't know

979
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: if that was just a one game thing or that's

980
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: going to be a.

981
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: Trend with why we But yeah, I know I saw

982
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: that too.

983
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: So you have Mike tight end twenty.

984
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: I'm eighteen, so kind of been still in there in

985
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: that mix.

986
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, he had a season high eighty four percent

987
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: ut participation rate the week before and then down to

988
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: fifty six, which is a season low.

989
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just tough to project, Like I'm not

990
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm using it.

991
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm giving about sixty, just a little over sixty, So

992
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going all the way down to fifty six

993
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: again just because again week before season high. But yeah,

994
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: definitely about ten fifteen percent lower than his season normal rate.

995
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: I am low on Gerald Everett. He's my tight end

996
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: twenty one, he's tied in fifteen in ECR, and he's

997
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: only top three catches in thirty and top thirty yards

998
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: once each in his eight games played this year.

999
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: He's only got two touchdowns on a year.

1000
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: Green Bay's not's been pretty average against the tight end position,

1001
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: and Ever's dealing with an injury I believe. I think

1002
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: it's a back injury or something. But it's kind of

1003
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: been a story for him all year. He's been banged

1004
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: up and he just hasn't been putting up volume stats

1005
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: and he's only been running around about fifty percent of

1006
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: the dropbacks. So it's really tough to trust him as

1007
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: a top fifteen tight end this week. I think there

1008
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: are better options, you know, guys like Luke Musgrave that

1009
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: you can look to Conklin even you know, I know Ever,

1010
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: it's attached to Justin Herber, but it's just, you know,

1011
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: you haven't seen the production if you're only clearing three

1012
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: catches once a year, when a guy like Conklin is go, yeah,

1013
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: top four more catches and over half of the games,

1014
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: and like it's you can't justify, Like we're already in

1015
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: Week eleven, you can't justify keeping ever in the top fifteen.

1016
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is disappointing because again with Mike Williams and

1017
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: Josh Palmer out, you know, you think he could step

1018
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: up as like a top three option, but just hasn't

1019
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: been there. He did last year, he stepped up when

1020
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: you know Keenan Allen, Mike Williams were down, but just

1021
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: hasn't been the same this year.

1022
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 2: Yep. All right, let's see we're gonna do for the prop.

1023
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: A lot of good options this week.

1024
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: And last week it was fun ranking tight ends with

1025
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: no Kelsey, I had like Laporta Kincaid. At one point

1026
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: I had Dalton Schultz is my tight end one?

1027
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: It was all super close.

1028
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's now Kelsey's back, But let's go with Conklin

1029
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: because he's a he's a fringe guy that I think

1030
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: is going to be in the mix.

1031
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: So thirty three and a half.

1032
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: Right, thirty, So I got to go under. That's a

1033
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 4: good line. Yeah. Yeah.

1034
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 3: And the Bills, I mean, the Bills aren't as tough

1035
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: against tight ends right now with Milano on the shelf. See,

1036
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: i'll take I'll take the under. But that's a good line.

1037
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have it, I have it right around there.

1038
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: In projections as well. But yeah, I'm surprised to see

1039
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: how consistent he's been. Yeah, this season, but I guess,

1040
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean the jet. I mean, you're getting nothing from Lazard,

1041
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: nothing from Cobbs, so it kind of makes sense.

1042
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: They cut Michael Carter.

1043
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't even see that.

1044
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's happened like a few minutes ago.

1045
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh is he?

1046
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: Is he?

1047
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, the door is open.

1048
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

1049
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for our Week eleven

1050
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: NFL Player Projections episode of the Action Network Podcast presented

1051
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: by bet MGM. For more great fantasy content from Sean

1052
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: and I, be sure to check our full Fantasy preview

1053
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: episode out now over on the Fantasy Flex podcast channel.

1054
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: If you're in a betting, my weekly betting preview episode

1055
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: with Stuckey drops every Thursday right here on the Action

1056
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: Network podcast channel. Action network dot com for all of

1057
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: our NFL fantasy and betting content, Fantasybabags dot Com for

1058
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: our DFS tools and models.

1059
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: Don't forget to.

1060
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: Join the Action Network Discord link in the episode description

1061
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: to find Sean on x at the Underscriage Maker. I'm

1062
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: at Chris raybond Reco same handers on the free award

1063
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: winning action network hapntil next time. This money action network

1064
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: reminds you please gamble responsibly. If you or someone you

1065
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: care about has a gambling problem, help is available twenty

1066
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: four to seven at one eight hundred gambler