WEBVTT - A Littler Life

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<v Speaker 1>Dog dog log u gog, she's sheen. I'm me no ma,

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<v Speaker 1>not my ny yo yo?

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<v Speaker 2>What is your child in Trada?

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<v Speaker 1>I am a cook, choky. What's going down before round?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Like a Virgin, the show where we give

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm Ra's domin, I'm Fran

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<v Speaker 1>Torodo and Fran. If I see your goddamn elf bar,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to piss all over your bed in our

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<v Speaker 1>fire Island house. You should, I mean, look, we at

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<v Speaker 1>Like a Virgin. And I did notice that you gave

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<v Speaker 1>yourself the only king bed in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gave myself the only king bed in the house,

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<v Speaker 3>you betcha. I've been doing a lot of labor to

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<v Speaker 3>earn that you have, and I think we are all

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<v Speaker 3>in agreement there. You are welcome to share the king

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<v Speaker 3>bed with me anytime you want, rose if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to come cuddles, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe i'll maybe I'll sneak in there for a little

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<v Speaker 1>cuddle at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so well wait, I just have to say once again,

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<v Speaker 3>we at Loretta LLC do not endorse elf bars.

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<v Speaker 1>They are nasty and disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm throwing this one away and replacing it with the

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<v Speaker 3>three packs of camel crushes Rose will be bringing to

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<v Speaker 3>fire ifolate. Well, apparently camel crushes have been like outlawed

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<v Speaker 3>or something, which is great, but all can't buy them anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm pretty sure I can hunt down a pack

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<v Speaker 3>or two in at a bodega somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been outlawed for that for a similar reason that

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<v Speaker 3>elf bars have been out lot, which is like you're

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<v Speaker 3>not allowed to have flavored nicotine available in certain stores

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<v Speaker 3>or places. I know that that was definitely specific to California,

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<v Speaker 3>but it sounds like New York is on that is

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<v Speaker 3>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, something I've noticed is so since I moved back

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<v Speaker 1>to New York, I've been buying weed from the smoke

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<v Speaker 1>shops around me in Brooklyn because you know, like since decriminalization,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just like that has been a thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>last week, the week before before I went out of town,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to to smoke shops near me to try

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<v Speaker 1>to buy weed, and both of them didn't have it,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, is like did something change?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they?

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<v Speaker 3>It's about going to a specific bodega. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>know a specific guy, a specific specific deal a specific.

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<v Speaker 1>These were my specific places. They always had they always

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<v Speaker 1>had weed, they had pre rolls, and now they don't. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they know they had everything. They had pre rolls, gummies,

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<v Speaker 1>flower vabes, everything. That's kind of wow. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to go back to like my old

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<v Speaker 1>delivery service, like drug dealers that I used to buy

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<v Speaker 1>weed from, which feels so like vintage.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I be a snob real quick? In the world

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<v Speaker 3>weed buying territory? I became a stoner in California. We

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<v Speaker 3>were spoiled, rotten baby. The weed over there is phenom on.

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<v Speaker 4>A different level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally came back to New York trying to ditch

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<v Speaker 3>my weed habit, and New York made.

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<v Speaker 1>It so easy because the weed here is ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Compared to what I'm smoking in LA And that is

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<v Speaker 3>like on one level, it's like all the dealers, all

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<v Speaker 3>the places only have hybrids, and these hybrids are probably

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<v Speaker 3>the crumbles left over from whatever they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're making me feel groggy.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not giving any sort of lyft, they don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like anything special or different, Like it's just not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So if anybody all this to say, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>like a if you're like a boutique millennial weed business

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to send us something, yes, stuff please do.

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<v Speaker 3>Or if you are flying from LA and visiting New York,

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<v Speaker 3>you can please bring me. Oh please, I keep forgetting

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<v Speaker 3>that that I want to ask people coming in from

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<v Speaker 3>LA to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, Laala is coming back here later this month. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>ask her to bring me some week. I make myself

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<v Speaker 1>a little mental notation that I'll absolutely forget because we

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<v Speaker 1>know that I have the memory of a calender, Goleander.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really funny, you know what I do remember, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's now been a week since it came out,

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<v Speaker 1>was the most recent episode to us of and just

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<v Speaker 1>like that Virgins, I know that you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>on a Thursday and a new episode has already come out,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is very much old news at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is just how our release schedule works. And

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<v Speaker 1>since our Patreon episode this week was the recording of

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<v Speaker 1>our live show, which you should definitely go listen to

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<v Speaker 1>patreon dot com slash like a Virgin, we thought that

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<v Speaker 1>we would move that and just like that discussion to

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<v Speaker 1>the main show just for this week and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what we're thinking of the season so far, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you felt, but this third episode, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was fun. I thought like after the second

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<v Speaker 1>and third episode, I think were somewhat of a return

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<v Speaker 1>to form, ish of giving us a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>sex and the City vibes. And also something that I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated is a return to form of Carrie Bradshaw being

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible, annoying person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we love this, this is why we watch. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we forget that, this is why we watch sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I honestly feel like, just as we said before,

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<v Speaker 3>like this season, especially like the kind of first moments

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<v Speaker 3>of the first episode of season two, but also just throughout,

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<v Speaker 3>they're definitely putting sex back into the city and I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate that, which is why in episode three, this very prolonged,

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<v Speaker 3>belabored plotline about Carrie being able to read the chapter

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<v Speaker 3>of her memoir where Big dies is like, once again,

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't want to watch this, Sorry, I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I appreciate the writers

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<v Speaker 3>of the show. I appreciate what they're bringing to the show,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a story that is not really relevant to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's fine, and I'm sure this will be very

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<v Speaker 3>impactful for people who have had lovers and family members who.

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<v Speaker 1>Have died.

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<v Speaker 4>That said, Wow, you are heartless.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not fun. It's so unfun.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's the same reason why the other three cast

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<v Speaker 3>members of the show, Seema, LTW and Nya Nya Nya,

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<v Speaker 3>who I fucking hates annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>She's annoying, she's so boring. Get her off the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not watching that.

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<v Speaker 3>LTW is also extremely ancillary, Like she's fabulous, and Seema

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<v Speaker 3>is also fabulous, But when they are cogs in the

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<v Speaker 3>machine of the plot and they are like supporting the

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<v Speaker 3>other girls plot lines, like I am legitimately interested in that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like it's almost problematic of me to

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<v Speaker 3>say that because these are the only characters of color

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<v Speaker 3>that are in support of the very white cast members

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<v Speaker 3>of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the original show.

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<v Speaker 3>Divas, Like, stop trying to spoon feed of something that

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<v Speaker 3>quite frankly, the writers don't are not qualified to write

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<v Speaker 3>on a lot of the time, Like it doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like any sort of lived in experience for the average

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<v Speaker 3>sex and the city viewer. And I am not hearing

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<v Speaker 3>from any people who are along these kind of backgrounds

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<v Speaker 3>and Margins of these three characters that feel seen in

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<v Speaker 3>any way you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do know what you mean, and like, excuse

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<v Speaker 1>me for voicing this, but I don't really care about

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I care about the show being entertaining to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, the show being the show and it and

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with you about the Carrie's grief plotline. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually thought that was pretty well done, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>incredible acting from Sarah Jessca Parker was always like, knocks

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<v Speaker 1>it out of the ballpark on that. But I liked

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff as a vehicle to get us to something

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<v Speaker 1>that I've really been missing for a man, just like that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Carrie being a shitty person. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>such a byproduct of this thing that has been talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>notably by Kennie Bushnell who wrote the original column that

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<v Speaker 1>the original show is based on, which is that the

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<v Speaker 1>Venn diagram of the characters and the actresses has become

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<v Speaker 1>a circle. And you can see this so much, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with Cynthia Nixon and Sarah Jessica Parker. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>with like with Cynthia Nixon, obviously, it's like about her

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<v Speaker 1>journey with her sexuality and her Queerness and with Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica Parker, it is really about sanitizing Carrie Bradshaw and

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<v Speaker 1>making her a much more toothless and less edgy character,

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<v Speaker 1>because Carrie was always a mess who made really bad decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>and so much of that has been sanded away to

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<v Speaker 1>make her a nicer person, which is not why I

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show. I want imperfect Carrie who made bad

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<v Speaker 1>decisions and smoked cigarettes. And so this episode where she

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<v Speaker 1>lies about having COVID to get out of doing a

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<v Speaker 1>professional thing and also then to get out of social engagements,

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<v Speaker 1>which relatable. I loved that because it felt like a

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<v Speaker 1>return was exactly Carrie would do. It was exactly something

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie would do, Yes, and I and and then it

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<v Speaker 1>led to her like her going shopping and buying all

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<v Speaker 1>those shoes, like it did I cut a glimpse of

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<v Speaker 1>the Carrie we know and love, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like, those moments are so brief, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's what keeps me watching, and I'm sure that's what

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<v Speaker 1>keeps a lot of people watching because as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I said last week, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be positive and like blah blah blah, But as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what this show is because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not Sex and the City and I hate the City.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because it's learning how to edge into our fifties

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<v Speaker 1>in the city. I hate to always be referencing every outfit,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I do love them and they cover the

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<v Speaker 1>show really well. And something they've been saying a lot

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<v Speaker 1>recently is that, especially with all of the kid plot lines,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like that is really feeling like a rated

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<v Speaker 1>Our Modern Family, And.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately that's very true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I wish the kids were just not part

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Hm, Modern Family is like really insulting. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna lie, but I that's like really really like dirty.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a dirty word.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a pretty act read it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will say really quickly, I wish there was

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<v Speaker 3>another comparison, But like, I actually don't mind a rated

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<v Speaker 3>Our Modern Family if the other three characters weren't so

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<v Speaker 3>distracting at times. And I also wouldn't mind it if

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<v Speaker 3>there was just more r The sex is not the forefront.

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<v Speaker 3>The fun and the Shenanigans and the hygiens is not

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<v Speaker 3>on the forefront as much, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is why when we get it. It feels so delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that there's something really interesting and funny and

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<v Speaker 3>stupid about Chadeas and Miranda's kind of like, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>very realistic codependency, like when you first become queer and

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<v Speaker 3>you have your first like boyfriend girlfriend they friend like ooh, mama,

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<v Speaker 3>you attach and it's unhealthy, and like I think that

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<v Speaker 3>they're you know, there's a lot in that that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually like warming up to and see as like a

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<v Speaker 3>viable plot for the show, especially in comparison to the

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<v Speaker 3>really boring plots. It's just like there's so much time

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<v Speaker 3>taken away from our three girls to support three independent

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<v Speaker 3>plot lines that are so not the show, not because

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<v Speaker 3>the plot isn't but from the show, not because the

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<v Speaker 3>characters aren't for the show, but because they're not about Charlotte, Miranda,

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<v Speaker 3>and Carrie.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're certainly not about Charlotte, who again is the

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<v Speaker 1>most disrespected character on the show. And I'm like making

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<v Speaker 1>her lust after a teenager is just so bizarre, but

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<v Speaker 1>not even in a way where it's like actually transgressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm just like so continuously upset by the by

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<v Speaker 1>making Charlotte so small when she is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few people from the original series.

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<v Speaker 3>I will concede that if Charlotte follows through on lust

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<v Speaker 3>for or for this, like, is it a college student, No.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a high schooler, way seventeen. No, school with our daughter. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I thought it was like prep you will block that.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was like prep school. Okay, prep school

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<v Speaker 3>is high school?

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<v Speaker 1>My god.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought like in prep school that they integrate with

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<v Speaker 3>like freshman or something. Whoa No, oh my god. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's really wrong. But also here's the thing. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>but here's the thing though, it's so wrong that it's

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<v Speaker 3>right for me because Sex and the City and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not endorsing pedophilia, but Sex and the.

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<v Speaker 1>City has always been wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>They love to go in the direction where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>this is a bad, bad and you know it and

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<v Speaker 3>I know it, and we're gonna do it anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that to me is still Sex and the City.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like funny and stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just kind of humiliating for Charlotte because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>need to be high schooler what. Yeah, And it's and

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<v Speaker 3>it's also so out of step with everything that's going

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<v Speaker 3>on in the rest of the show like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give me Cha Pasa and all this fucking representation matters,

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<v Speaker 3>all this representation mattershit and then have Charlotte lusting over

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<v Speaker 3>a seventeen year old Like it's so that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>mean when I say, like I don't get what this

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<v Speaker 3>show is. Well to bring it to Shay to Chay,

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<v Speaker 3>to Shay to Shade all shake ula.

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<v Speaker 1>Shake cool ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>I really feel like now in season two, Chay has

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<v Speaker 3>kind of earned their spot as a bad partner, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there is always a kind of series regular, like

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of boyfriend or girlfriend that will like go

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<v Speaker 3>into the show for like three, four or five episodes

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<v Speaker 3>and then come out when it's dysfunctional. For me, Chay

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<v Speaker 3>has now been in too many episodes. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if Chay just started to be in this season, I

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<v Speaker 3>would I will happily allow and want to see how

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<v Speaker 3>this is seen out And I am excited for whatever

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<v Speaker 3>happens between them because it does feel interesting and real

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<v Speaker 3>and something that actually feels true to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I agree that Chay is a

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<v Speaker 1>bad partner. Well, I think the show. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>show wants us to think that Chay is asking these

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<v Speaker 1>like really ridiculous things of Miranda.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know that I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think that Chay is asking Miranda for

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<v Speaker 3>some ridiculous things. I just think that Chay is very

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<v Speaker 3>clearly a player, and that in these in this moment

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<v Speaker 3>where they're now starting to have an actual relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>Miranda and learn how to have real intimacy in their life,

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<v Speaker 3>in their life and lives, they're not really in their.

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<v Speaker 4>Lives and they're live. They're alive, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>It really feels like Chay is like has earned their spot.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like they're not compatible at all. Like Miranda's

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<v Speaker 3>needs and Chay's needs are not compatible periods. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see a future where they can work out, which

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<v Speaker 3>is why I'm excited to see how it all goes

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<v Speaker 3>to shit. I don't really love what I'm finding to

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<v Speaker 3>be genuine empathy for Chadas as a character, which feels

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<v Speaker 3>really hamphested and probably a product of sata Amira's involvement,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm going to be honest, because the character was

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<v Speaker 3>not really well received in season one, and so now

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to make this character more human and likable,

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<v Speaker 3>which is not working.

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<v Speaker 1>On me.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, it's warning that they're there. I'm happy that it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's better than the other three. Are you and I

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<v Speaker 3>as a podcast going to watch the Flash so we

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<v Speaker 3>can talk about it starring as.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was not planning. I was not planning.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any desire to watch it just to

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<v Speaker 3>discuss just for the sake of discussing it, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently I suppose, I suppose good or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something, and I think it's specifically something that you and

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<v Speaker 3>I would want to critique just because of the Azra

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<v Speaker 3>Miller of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I'm willing to see

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<v Speaker 1>it so that we can talk about it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's worth the discussion, because what I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>is either people saying it's amazing, which feels like they

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<v Speaker 1>were paid to say that, or people saying it's suck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like sucked to mid and that's kind of It

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<v Speaker 1>was also a huge box office flop, Oh it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of depressing, yes, but also it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like it was the I think it made the

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<v Speaker 4>least money of any DC movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, actually rejected, that's not depressing. I hope like DC

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<v Speaker 3>learns from this. Tyra voice learn from this anyways.

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<v Speaker 4>I will consider seeing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of things that aren't really worth discussion, you told

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<v Speaker 3>me that you are maybe going to watch The Bear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any particular reason why I haven't watched

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<v Speaker 1>it besides just that like that when the first season

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<v Speaker 1>came out, like the premise was not super compelling to me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just never watched it. But now as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing more and more people talk about it, I and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I love Io and that guy from Girls.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy from Girls is so my no spoiler, so

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched almost all of the second season. Now my

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<v Speaker 3>no spoiler kind of pitch to you is that the

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<v Speaker 3>guy from Girls, whatever his name is, is amazing and

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<v Speaker 3>gets this narrative arc that could only be built over

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<v Speaker 3>the course of two full seasons to get you to

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<v Speaker 3>a place with this character where you finally understand what

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<v Speaker 3>they're all about. It's so beautiful and such good TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Writing this show as a whole. The reason I said

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<v Speaker 3>it's like not really worth discussion discussing sometimes is because

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<v Speaker 3>the show is it's just like a good show, like

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes the show that's like just good is like

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<v Speaker 3>not really interesting to talk about, especially when it's like

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much only about like heterosexual people in it in

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<v Speaker 3>an industry that we have nothing to do with.

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<v Speaker 1>But I could use the show that just like is

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<v Speaker 1>good that I can just kind of speed my way through.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I am currently in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 1>Of binging a series. I'm in the middle of a rewatch.

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<v Speaker 1>I am rewatching queer as Folk the original.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa wait, we need to do a Queers Folk episode

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<v Speaker 3>because I would love to rewatch that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I mean, I've never seen it. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. You've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've seen the first two episodes. Okay, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make that a project. You're gonna watch Queers Folks. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>rewatching it. I'm also finally going to watch the lay same.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching this to say all this to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want something like The Bear that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>will be a quick watch. I it is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>quick I have some I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Some free time this summer, you know, I need something

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<v Speaker 4>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>The show is amazing. I do not recommend a passive watch,

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<v Speaker 3>like don't look at your phone. It's like a really rewarding,

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<v Speaker 3>intentional watch.

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<v Speaker 1>IO is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>You're saying that I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I mean, I really am. I'm projected.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you practicing what you preach?

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<v Speaker 3>Those No, I'm projecting. IO is amazing. Jeremy ellen White

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<v Speaker 3>is so fine. He okay, wait, we need to bring

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<v Speaker 3>back our oscars. But what did we call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Suck on? He doesn't really do it for me? The

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<v Speaker 1>low dometer? Yeah, how many low? That's what we call it,

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<v Speaker 1>not suck suckometer. The the load ometer can can some

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<v Speaker 1>like enterprising virgin like create likemeter, like a micro site

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<v Speaker 1>with a load ometer or something like, you know, like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be so fun. That would be we would absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>post about that. You know, the loadometer is a very

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<v Speaker 3>strong for me. And I shook that you're not into it,

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<v Speaker 3>considering that he is pretty much a kind of he

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<v Speaker 3>is just kind of the poor man's Aaron Taylor Johnson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>working class Aaron Taylor Johnson.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But speaking of loads, though, you know whose load I

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<v Speaker 1>need Harrison Ford's because I saw the new Indiana Jones

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<v Speaker 1>movie yesterday and he's years old, by the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I want to suck him dry until

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<v Speaker 1>he's the crypt keeper.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I saw until he's the dried up Mummy at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of Temple of Doom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really get that reference because I don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>know India Jones that well. Like I definitely am like

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<v Speaker 1>Haunted by the Snakes from childhood, but I have never

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<v Speaker 1>rewatched the movies as an adult, and I've probably only

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<v Speaker 1>seen one or two of them. I think I should

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<v Speaker 1>watch Raiders of the Lost Arc again. Maybe I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>that this week. That actually might be a good movie

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<v Speaker 1>to watch on Fire Island if it gets rainy at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. So, you know, but I think I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt fine going into this movie with very little

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<v Speaker 1>context because it's like Indiana Jones. He like has a

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<v Speaker 1>whip and doesn't like snakes and like likes adventures. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was all I needed to know. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>the first twenty minutes of the movie, it takes place

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<v Speaker 1>in like the original timeline of the series, like World

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<v Speaker 1>War two, and they see gi him to look young

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so effective. What and I needed his cock

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<v Speaker 1>and balls. I believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe they did that for the last Ndiana Jones too,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm not mistaken. This kind of cgi flashback, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really remember watching that movie, if I'm completely honest.

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<v Speaker 4>But in this one it looks like it looks real.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure, I'm sure that's really helped by the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that like technology has progressed. And also we have

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<v Speaker 1>so much footage of young Harrison Ford, so it probably

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<v Speaker 1>made it easier. But he was so hot, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also he was hot when he was older too. When

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<v Speaker 1>they flash forward to his like current self, he the

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<v Speaker 1>first scene he's in, he shirtless, and I would lick

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<v Speaker 1>that white, gnarly hair off his chest. Well, on the lodometer,

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<v Speaker 1>who's scoring higher? Old Indiana Jones Are.

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<v Speaker 3>Young Indiana Jones? Yeng okay, I thought so, but you

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<v Speaker 3>can always surprise me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's got He's got a nice like eight loads

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<v Speaker 1>on the lotometer. I don't actually know the metrics of

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<v Speaker 1>how the lowdometer works.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to figure it out, but that's not for

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<v Speaker 3>us to figure out. That's not our job. I think

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 3>it works. I think it works as needed. I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>used the AMC Stubs rewards membership in a while, so

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana Jones is exactly a movie I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for and therefore will be We'll go and see it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you you definitely should. I also, I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you this, but I have a new film membership

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>service that is not AMC stubs, and it's not movie right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting no. I I joined the Alamo Draft House.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good thing because I live so close to the

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Alamo downtown Brooklyn, and because of that, I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>The Little Mermaid four times in theaters work Diva. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so many times. Rose.

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<v Speaker 3>We have so many times Rose. This episode very easily.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we say this all the time, but

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<v Speaker 3>this time like we mean it, mean it. This is

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<v Speaker 3>like a virgin hall of fame for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so this has been a long time coming. It's

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>been a long time. On the Lonometer, we are finally

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about Lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Gaga, which is why today's episode is probably extra long.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're gonna enjoy it. Okay, you're gonna send through it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is that long on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another sense. I am beyond repentense. Fame, hooker, prostitute

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>wench vomits our mind. But in the cultural sense, I

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>just speak in future tense, Judius. If me as a

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<v Speaker 1>fence to wear ear condom next time, what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to love you. Okay, what is it? Well, it's you

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>way from Jesus is my verse, and Judas is the demon.

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<v Speaker 4>A clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I cling to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking those lyrics out loud is such a disorienting word, salad,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to say here and now today in

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<v Speaker 3>our Gaga episode, it is an episode about first and

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<v Speaker 3>foremost slant rhymes. And this woman will stretch anything into

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<v Speaker 3>a rhyme if she needs to, and more often than not,

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<v Speaker 3>it's giving rhyme zone dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Yes, it's giving rhyme zone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving she only knows a certain amount of words

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not willing to learn anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I did tell you that when wait you saw

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<v Speaker 3>CHROMATICA two write the CHROMATICA ball, I did not see

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<v Speaker 3>the chromatical Okay, I did in our in my CHROMATICA

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<v Speaker 3>Ball recap, I did tell you that when Gaga does

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<v Speaker 3>her like intermittent like speaking moments, that she is giving

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<v Speaker 3>talk to text prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I mean I think her brain is chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think with the cocktail that she's on.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember vividly where I was the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Just Dance music video, which was my introduction

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<v Speaker 1>to Stephanie Germanada. And so it was when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a nanny for Do you know that I used to

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<v Speaker 1>be a nanny for Judy Gold. Have I talked about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we have or not on the podcast now, But

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I didn't know that, and I remember you

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<v Speaker 3>telling me.

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<v Speaker 1>So famed Jewish lesbian comedian Judy Gold is the reason. Well, no,

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 1>she's not the reason why I was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>played a part in the story because she and her

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ex wife lived in the same building. They had different

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<v Speaker 1>apartments in the same building. And one day, this is

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<v Speaker 1>very lesbian, one day the kids were in one apartment

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<v Speaker 1>and I really needed to get away from them, so

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the other apartment and and watched Just

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<v Speaker 1>Dance on my computer. And it was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I had ever heard of this woman, Lady Gaga. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And you were doing it, ditching work, ditching work, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>children and endangering them. So I think that really makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly, when you had started talking about Judy Gold

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<v Speaker 3>and you were like she, and I thought you were

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say Judy Gold discovered me, and I was like

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<v Speaker 3>work in a way, maybe the same way that Lady

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<v Speaker 3>Starlight discovered Lady Gaga.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe wait, is that is that is Lady Starlight the

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<v Speaker 1>who's the one? Who's the girl? Oh? No, Lady Lady

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<v Speaker 1>morganas Lena Morgana.

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<v Speaker 3>Lena Morgana and Lady Starlight are two different mythological figures

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<v Speaker 3>in the history the historic retelling of Gaga's story.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there, they're both real people. But one of them's dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that I mean Lena Morgana remains to be seen.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 3>We have not seen the remains. No, Lena Morgana is

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<v Speaker 3>confirmed dead. She fell off a roof. So Lena Morgana

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<v Speaker 3>is this? I can't believe this is how we're starting,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 3>No talk about this is a perfect way to start

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<v Speaker 3>Lena Moore from the beginning, Lena Morgana was in the

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<v Speaker 3>same circle as Gaga when Gaga was starting out in

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<v Speaker 3>her career. You know the story she always tells about

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<v Speaker 3>how she used to drag her ass over to the

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<v Speaker 3>Bitter End with her keyboard to perform. Lena Morgana was

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<v Speaker 3>doing the same kind of thing as her. But from

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<v Speaker 3>all the accounts we have, Lena Morgana was the one

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<v Speaker 3>who was doing the cuckoo crazy costumes and stuff. But

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>she died falling off a roof and according to some people,

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<v Speaker 3>Gaga then sort of appropriated her esthetic and became the

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<v Speaker 3>figure we now know and maybe kilter and maybe kilter.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't know if I actually have heard the

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 3>full tea that is kind of gaggy, but she did.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>She definitely one killed her. There is like, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, there's no really, there's a really iconic

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, actually a lot of people on drugs

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>fall off roofs all the time. There's a really iconic

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Ayisha erotica song about Lena Morgana that I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to play just a little bit of She murdered her

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Drest in peace to Nina Morgana. Go to hell if

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you did anything Gaga. All right, all right, all right,

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, no, no, no way, you have to let

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<v Speaker 1>just listen to the end of the course of course

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<v Speaker 1>I do it. I don't know Lena Morgana had to go.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Ganga? Incredible? Okay, Well, so.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 3>What was you?

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>What was your like entree into the world of Gaga?

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<v Speaker 3>My entree I was in my kind of maybe junior

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 3>senior year of high school. I was dating my very

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 3>first boyfriend discovering that I'm into homosexuals.

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<v Speaker 1>And not men, just homosexuals kind of yeah, okay, not

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, that's somewhat somewhat true. Anyways, it's probably better than

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 3>being into straight men. I'm gonna oh yeah, I actually

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>am famously like kind of deterred and turned off by

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 3>straight dudes like a I can admire a straight guy

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 3>the way I could admire like a statue.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>You don't at a museum.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like porn where they're both straight men, No, like, no,

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>if I I only I am only into that, as

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I've discussed in our porn episode. If it's like a

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>little if there's some power play Phoebe, Yeah no.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that that actually is not the narrative, but but

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>but you know, if there's consent between both parties and

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 3>they both are into power play. Anyways, I'm going back

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>to the story. Okay, I love the Rabbit Trail. Though

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I was dating this guy who was had been out

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 3>longer than me. I had just come out, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I'm not gonna say he's like he was

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like out and proud, but everybody knew that he was gay.

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>He was making jokes about being gay.

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>I like it was he was the school fag. He

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 3>wasn't the school fag. He were No, he was in

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 3>a a toxic love quadrangle, gay love quadrangle that I

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 3>became enveloped in when I came out and the four

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 3>the four gays, who about right, and yes, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally I was just a little life, but like seventeen

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>year olds, seventeen year old gays being a littler life,

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 3>tiny life, a very small life, and okay, and.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>It was in this toxic love quadrangle. None of this

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I now, I'm just thinking of like a children's show

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>called a Littler Life. It's like The Stranger Things Kids.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like still really traumatic and they're all like dying

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>and like being sexually abusing. No, oh my god, it's

0:31:53.960 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 3>like the Babies drama, Anya would Okay, Okay, so none

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 3>of this information is relevant to the story, by the way,

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 3>love quadrangle. Anyways, he was more out and proud like

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>than me. And I'm just like at the I was,

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 3>as we all know on the show, living in a

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<v Speaker 3>cultural vacuum and not really in with the kids. I

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 3>was being like, hello, my fellow kids, kind of but

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 3>with actual my fellow kids and not being able to,

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, tap into them. But you were wearing a pants, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember being at a cast party and we

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 3>know the girls popped off at the cast party for

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>what show. I don't remember if Christy Dunlinger was there.

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna guess it was maybe The Hobbit or maybe

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 3>the Hobbit. Maybe the Hobbit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, so Lord of the Rings was part

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of your Gaga Awakens.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe when we were at a cast party and someone

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 3>turned on poker Face, and I don't think it was

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 3>the first time I'd ever heard poker Face, but it

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>was definitely the first time ikes burienced poker Face. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember my boyfriend knowing every single lyric and then

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 3>becoming something of the center of a dance circle moment.

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I know he was white, by the way, and he

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>was probably wearing he was probably wearing blue plaid American

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>apparel shorts and a polo and like like leather slides,

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 3>nothing more.

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Like canvas thong flip flops is what I was giving.

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 3>And he knew every single word and he was so

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 3>confident he was dancing exactly to poker Vace and he

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 3>was so embodied and so like into thought something.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, exactly, you thought he was doing something I did.

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 3>I did truly because like I didn't, I never experienced

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Gaga phantom.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know who Gaga was. I wasn't.

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 3>It was all out there, and I think the way

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 3>he channeled it and like the kind of self possession.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 3>In that very moment, I was just like, oh, like

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>this woman is like and everyone was so buzzing. I

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 3>was like, what's going on?

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And that was that Phoebe's losing her mind? Maybecause okay,

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Phoebe was saying before we started recording, Phoebe was saying, like,

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>this is like Gaga is a religion, and this is

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a great little transfertion like a religion, like a true

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like cult. Yes, when I discovered Gaga, I became indoctrinated

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>so quickly. And I mean the early days of her career,

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:34.959
<v Speaker 1>pre Bad Romance, which is the thing that really broke

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 1>her out and made her into the cultural juggernaut that

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>she had become.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 5>I was.

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Obsessed, like I consumed every possible thing I could about her.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>It was the first time in my life that I

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>latched onto a diva in that way. I had never

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>experienced that before, And I do think the main reason,

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 1>besides the the fact that I was a gay weirdo,

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is because I was a theater kid. And Gaga is

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the patron saint of weird theater kid.

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<v Speaker 3>She is perhaps the most famous theater kid, the most

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 3>power the world's most powerful theater kid. That yeah, I mean,

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>who else I could only think of, like Kate Bush,

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 3>it's Gaga.

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Gaga is a theater faggot. Well, I mean then Timore.

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Were we talking about this recently? Is that when you

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>peel back the layers on a lot of famous people,

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you discovered there just theater kid.

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not know.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 3>But the thing about Gaga is that she is like

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 3>thea ta. She is giving what did you do to

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 3>die today? She is giving a nunciation like the way

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 3>that Gaga will put some diction on a song is

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 3>showing off the fact that.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't go to Juilliard. Right, No, she went to

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>n Yu famously, right she I remember.

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 3>I think I remember a story that she almost went

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 3>to Juilliard and then decided to just you know, try

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:01.240
<v Speaker 3>and make it in the street.

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she said that. I don't know if she got

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.479
<v Speaker 1>into Juilliard, but I don't remember a lot of people

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>almost went to Juliard.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I don't know. But she yeah,

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 3>she's giving theater. She's giving theater.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 4>Kid.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, That's what I loved about her from the beginning

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>was that, you know, it was this whole she was

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>bringing taking pop music back to art. I mean, as

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>she would you know, later do very explicitly on art pop.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>But in the beginning that first, I mean I played

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the Fame to death. But then when the Fame Monster

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>came out, that's what radicalized me. Like I was, I

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was into it before, and then the Fame Monster that's

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>when I became a convert. That's when I became a

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>supplicant at the altar.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you describe the what was added on with the

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Fame Monster. Well, the Fame Monster is is like an

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 3>EP that she released that has oh it was an

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 3>EP and then they just mushed them together. Yes, but yes,

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 3>it's like retroactively they've been combined into one album. But

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 3>the Fame Monster was specifically that album where she was

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 3>where it had the Blonde Bob, it has bad romance

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 3>telephone Alejandro like, and that is what really broke her

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 3>out into the mainstream like Bad Romance. Like before that,

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 3>she was still a big pop cultural figure, but in

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 3>the way of like he he isn't she weird? And

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 3>then bad Romance is what it was her like global domination. Yes,

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 3>bad Romance was, and I think it has a lot

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 3>to do with her visual language and world that was

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 3>truly like first of its kind in a lot of ways.

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people can can try and say, who

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 3>did Gaga before Gaga? But I really do feel like

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Gaga is like a once in a generation, once in

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 3>a life time point of view, and I think that

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 3>bat Romance was that thing where it's like truly anointed,

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<v Speaker 3>like we need to now make you the most powerful

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 3>pop star in the world, and she.

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Was, yeah, and you know she is. I think one

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.919
<v Speaker 1>of the last pop stars who really put that much

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>effort into her visuals, into music videos specifically, because you

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>think about the early years of Gaga, all of her

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>huge songs are inextricably linked to either a really iconic

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.919
<v Speaker 1>music video or a really iconic live performance or both,

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like with Paparazzi that video was iconic, and also the

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>live performance of the VMA's like one of the great

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>live performances, possibly the greatest, No, maybe only edged out

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>by like Whitney Houston singing the Star Spangle banner or

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Lady Gaga doing her Sound of Music suite at the Oscar.

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I really love Beyonce's cochella performance. We don't need to

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>do that, We don't need to do that. Well, we're not.

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 3>The girls are not fighting today. Yeah, the girls are

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 3>not fighting. And also they have nothing to do with

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 3>each other, honestly, Like, That's what I'm saying is like

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Gaga was truly in her own lane, and at the

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 3>time Katy Perry was still was like edging in right

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 3>and like and right like in terms of like pop

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 3>music at the time.

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>And then well and very much like pitted against each other,

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like like applause versus roar, oh God moment in the

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 1>stand War Wait describe that. Well, they came out around

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the same time, and they were kind of publicly battling

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. This and the better these are in the

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>days back when the girls used to fight on Twitter? Right, Well,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>which was better? Roar applause? Applause is better? Applause is

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a better song?

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 4>It is? It is.

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't think I thought you would surprise me.

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>But yet Applause should not have been the lead single

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>off of Art Pop because because it's not, I don't

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's a good representation of what that album is.

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I think if Guy had been the lead single off

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>of Art Pop, art Pop would have handed out very differently.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite Gaga album? Obviously? Oh no, not obviously,

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it's Born this Way? Yes, that is the correct answer.

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I thought you were gonna say The Fame

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Well or The Fame Monster or whatever. The Fame I mean,

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the correct answer that Born this Way is your

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>favorite album, and I do think it's her best. It

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>is her best album. I really the Fame Monster. Yeah,

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and I agree, The Fame Monster is a very close

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to number two for me, and on some days it

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>edges Born this Way out. But I do believe that

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Born this Way is the most cohesive artistic product she's

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>ever made, and somewhat to her detriment, because I do

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>think that she was riding such a high off of

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>her breakout success that she made Born this Way and

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>did not really think about how it would be received,

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and she leaned really hard into being kooky weirdo and

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that worked out incredibly in terms of the creative output,

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>but it did somewhat I think alienate the people who

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>had latched onto her from Bad Romance. Interesting, and then

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>when art pop came out, that allowed those people who

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>had kind of moved to the fringes to then like

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of fully check out.

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Interesting. I've actually never heard it described that way, but

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 3>it does make perfect sense. I honestly, you're such a traditionalist.

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 3>I assumed you were going to say The Fame was

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 3>your favorite album.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 3>The thing about ar Pup and Joanne, which were like

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 3>her flop albums following flop quote unquote flop in quotations,

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I would never call them that, but like albums that

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 3>came after Born this way, part of me almost feels

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 3>like those albums were also like Gaga wasn't thinking about

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.280
<v Speaker 3>the audience to her detriment, you know, Like it doesn't

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 3>neither of those albums like who were those albums? For

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of art Pup is kind of amazing, and

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of arpup actually is tried and true.

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 3>O g Gaga, I'm a fucking weirdo, which is kind

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 3>of why I like it, But they do both those

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 3>albums didn't really feel like they were for her fans,

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 3>and so I was like, they must be for you.

0:42:56.200 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the big problem with art pop was it's release.

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want to rehash or relitigate it.

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually wrote a story for Paper magazine a couple

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of years ago called in Defense of art Pops. So

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>if you want a more articulate, like comprehensive breakdown of

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>why art pop actually is an incredible album and actually

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>was very commercially successful, then you can go read that.

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>But art pop is one of my favorites. Actually, I

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>guess we can do our Gaga album ranking or I'll

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>do the official like a Virgin Gaga album rank. I know,

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.479
<v Speaker 1>but I want I want your input, Okay, okay, okay.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>So we're saying number one is born this way? Okay, Yes,

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>number two the fame Monster, Yes, number three, yes art

0:43:53.160 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>pop mmm mmm okay. What would be number four? The fame?

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh really, I disagree. I think the fame should go

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 3>above art pop, don't you think. I'm well, I'm okay

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 3>with that, and I'm I'm willing to move it there.

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 3>My brain would also put chromatica over art pop because

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 3>of the cohesion and because of the number of songs

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I returned to versus the number of songs I returned

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 3>to on our pop. But I actually do see the

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 3>argument for our pop to be something that's stylistically more

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>out there.

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I do think art pop and the Fame are not interchangeable,

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but they're very close, interesting, and I think they kind

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of It kind of depends on the gaga you're going for. Yeah,

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it does, and it can kind of shift from day

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to day. But so after those, then it would be

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>chromatica Adica. Then Cheek to Cheek Cheek to Cheek, which

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is definitely better then the Star Is Born soundtrack. Oh

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>we're counting that, yeah, because she did produce things, so

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>she did it all. Sure, Yeah, and then Joanne dead Last.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I actually is the Stars Born No, no, no, chee

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 3>chek is better than Starsborne soundtrack?

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. Wow, that is I signed off, signed,

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>co sign done. Yesh. I'm so happy that we agree

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 1>able to agree. Well, there's a little discreption, but like

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 1>we we agree. Okay, Well, do you want to talk

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>about favorite songs now? Should should we do favorite songs next?

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Or should we do a top Okay, well, do you

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 3>have like a top five Gaga songs, Top ten Gaga

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 3>song I have top ten.

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>They're not in order, but these are just my top

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>ten and I can say I can say which one is,

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like jokingly my favorite, and then which one is legitimately

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>my favorite, and.

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Maybe give us like a not a not I know

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 3>you're not giving a ranking, but like there's a few

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 3>at the top. Yeah, I want to hear the ones

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 3>at the top. Okay, so legitimately my favorite. Lady got

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 3>song all the time, and this is not like the joke.

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 3>One that I say, which still is on the list

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 3>is Dance in the Dark.

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, okay okay. And then the one that I

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of jokingly say is my favorite is a nothing else.

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I can say nothing, but it still slaps. And I

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>love the music video where she's on the Vespa. It's

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 1>like iconic Gaga with the hairbo It's like the most

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Italian X she's ever been.

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 3>It is I will say my top two as we

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 3>bop around, I will I would definitely say you and

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I is probably I'm pretty gosh darn sure.

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:49.720
<v Speaker 1>My favorite or second favorite. Muscle cars drove a truck

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:50.800
<v Speaker 1>right through.

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 3>My heart and I really need you to hold space

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 3>for my other answer, for my other number one favorite, because.

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>You know I'm not gonna be happy about it.

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, my other favorite, which I would say easily can

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 3>be in the number one spot and I don't. And

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 3>when I say this, I don't think it's Lady Gaga's

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 3>best song, Like critically, it is a song that means

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 3>more to me than the rest of her discographield and

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:24.839
<v Speaker 3>it is stupid love.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the face rend was just made like

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I told her, like I was coming out to her as,

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you're having Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>She looks pained. Oh god, I'm not. I'm not mad.

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just disappointed that I don't know I actually write. Yes,

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't describe it. I really don't.

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 3>And let me tell you. I decided this like like

0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 3>within a few weeks of the song coming out. But

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 3>then I was like, you know, this is kind of

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 3>a crazy album. Maybe it won't really stick you put

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I put it on like black, like just a few

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 3>days ago, and I was like, oh my got like

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 3>full body like and it just it brings me to

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 3>a specific point in.

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Time, the pandemic. Yes it does.

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I was living alone, I had literally no joy, no

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 3>friends in my life. I had nothing to do and

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 3>you missed that? Yes, no, and then no, it's like

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 3>and stupid love? Was this this like bright light from Heaven?

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 3>That just like a complete dopamine boost. And I know

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 3>it's like not like structurally her best song whatever, it

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 3>is one hundred percent my favorite song next to you

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 3>and I.

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, well I thank you really did hold

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 1>space for that. Thank you? Thank you so the rest

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of my top ten yes, yes, speechless. Also on my

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>top ten Summer Boy. Hmmm, I clicked into Summer Boy

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>because of you. I feel a lahah and you and

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I okay, Papa Razzi, Oh you're reading these like nominations

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that an awards.

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Fashion of His Love also a very slept on song.

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.879
<v Speaker 1>We have really queened out together while listening.

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 3>To I will say Fashion of His Love is definitely

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe my number two number three spot.

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Venus Venus and Marry the Night, Marry the Night? Is

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Mary the Night? On my top?

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 7>Is it?

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 1>The others on my top are telephone, government hooker for sure,

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:42.919
<v Speaker 1>my god, government hooker is no on my list.

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:46.359
<v Speaker 3>You can't no take backs, no takesies, bacsies, no takes

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 3>these baxies Roses shook.

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Judas It's number eleven is Judas on yours? Did

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 1>you say that Judas is Judas is definitely on my

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>top fashion? Fashion?

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm i wanna say and again, not because I think

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like one of Gaga's best songs. I'm saying my

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 3>fate went top ten favor writ Gaga song.

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.879
<v Speaker 1>You know she has two songs called fashion. What Yeah,

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a song that is was like a a bonus

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.839
<v Speaker 1>track on the Fame or maybe but it was used

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>in It's actually in an episode of Ugly Betty. It's

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the episode Bad Amanda where they're where Betty and Amanda

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 1>are doing this the like digital story where they're trying

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to like do stuff without spending money. Oh, I love

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that episode. There's a Gaga song called fashion that goes

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>fashion put it all on May. Don't you want to

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 1>see these clothes on Spotify? Or is it like one

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of those Erasis songs. It might not be on Spotify.

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I actually think it's only on YouTube. What yeah?

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:45.919
<v Speaker 2>Wait?

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 1>What where if there is there are there Gaga like

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>unrecorded songs? Yeah, like there's lots of them. Wait, can

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you give me a little. Do you know it more

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>about that? I actually don't. I mean Brooklyn Knights is

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the most famous one. I mean just Disco Heaven, Oh

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>my god, I've never heard what Disco Heaven is like

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.720
<v Speaker 1>a B side. It is on the Fame Monster proper

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and I love Disco Heaven. Yeah, there's a there's a

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>bunch of She doesn't have like as much unreleased music

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>assay Lona del Ray, but there there's a bit of

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>it out there.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, wow, I mean I have heard Christmas Tree well

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 3>that is oh wait, that is on Spotify. Yeah, unfortunately,

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 3>are you finished with your I think Mary the Night

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 3>is also my top I don't know. I think that's

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 3>nine total, but that's all I have.

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:35.959
<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite music video?

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, yeah, it's Telephone. It's Telephone. I'm trying to guess yours.

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 4>Is it?

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know. It's a Lejandro.

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was gonna because there's a Judas music video, right,

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and I like I was thinking maybe Judas.

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was going to be from like Fameer

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Fame Monster. It's Alejandro. I think that is the hottest

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>she's ever looked. It's also the skinniest she's ever been

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>problematic in my part, but I love when she's like

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 1>riding the models. It's so sexy. I also met her

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the day.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 3>After the Alejandro video came out, Right, you've told this

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 3>story on the pod had a bar. Yeah, so it

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 3>is special, but it is the Gaga era, an aesthetic

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:59.399
<v Speaker 3>that I just connect with the most. So Phoebe wants

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 3>to know, like when we felt the most connected to Gaga.

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 3>So I Gaga came out when I was a Gaga

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 3>like came on the scene when I was a sophomore

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 3>in college, and then my junior year of college, I

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:17.759
<v Speaker 3>went back to Florida for like six months because of

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.279
<v Speaker 3>like family stuff, and during that time, I felt so

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>disconnected from my friends and from New York City, and

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, I'm back in this

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 3>life that I never wanted to be back in. And

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Gaga like got me through that in a very real way.

0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I was always watching YouTube videos of her in concert,

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like listening to her music constantly, like wearing crazy like

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 1>inspired looks and.

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Did you did you ever wear like pleasers or something?

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:49.799
<v Speaker 3>I've worn pleasers before, but no, I mean in your

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Gaga area. No, no, no, this was no, this was

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 3>pre like any kind of like gender fuckery at all.

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, how did you how did you give Gaga without gender?

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>It was like when she was wearing a lot of

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:05.919
<v Speaker 1>biker jackets and like denims, you know Born this Way. Yeah,

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>so that's Joe Calrone, Joe calderone. Yes. And then when

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I moved back to New York was right around the

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 1>time when Born this Way came out, and so it

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:22.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, these things are converging. And I was

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>living on the Lower East Side where she used to

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 1>hang out all the time, so I felt so connected

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to her.

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel I definitely I was living in Chicago at

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:35.720
<v Speaker 3>the time. If I'm thinking about like my most connected

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Gaga moment, I was living in Chicago. I was interning

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.319
<v Speaker 3>somewhere in the city, or maybe I was still going

0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 3>to school there. I'm not exactly sure, but I just

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 3>remember Born this Way coming out and and me on

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 3>first listen getting some of the songs and not getting

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 3>all of it, and then going on runs. I used

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 3>to like run every day, and going to runs, and

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.239
<v Speaker 3>then by listening to the album all the way through

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.360
<v Speaker 3>over and over again, I was like, oh my god,

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get it. I think that there's

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 1>something about her story and the kind of her story

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:19.959
<v Speaker 1>that she's like a rich kid from the Upper West Side?

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Is she yeah, Yeah, she's rich. I guess yeah.

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>And I feel I feel like for me, like the

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 3>story and the thing that has always through all my

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 3>throughout my life connected me to Gaga over and over

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 3>again is the way she started at dive bars, like

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 3>performing for nobody, like for twenty dollars or whatever, on

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 3>bad microphones, wearing crazy shit. And this quote wherein she

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 3>says something to the effect of, like, you know, before

0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I was famous, I would walk into any bar, any

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 3>post office, any restaurant and pretend like I was. I

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 3>would carry myself like a fucking star are until everyone

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:06.680
<v Speaker 3>else caught up to that. And I so viscerally latched

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 3>onto that mentality. And I don't think I ever, you know,

0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 3>lived and breathed that then, but I do.

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I am kind of like that now you are, well,

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel similarly like that is the I latched onto that,

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think I latched onto a different version of that.

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>The thing that I've always seen about seeing of myself

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 1>in her is her naked, try hard ambition. Yes, like, yes,

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:35.400
<v Speaker 1>is so relatable.

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 4>She is so.

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 1>She is so hungry, she cares and she is clearly yes,

0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>she cares so much, and she is clearly someone who

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>was deeply uncool at one point in her life and

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.359
<v Speaker 1>faked it until people thought she was cool. But she's

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.759
<v Speaker 1>still fucking nerds. She's a musical theater kid. Yeah, yeah,

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 1>she is and musical.

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 3>That's honestly, like tryhard and theater kid are synonyms, like

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:09.320
<v Speaker 3>they are like actually, like to be a theater kid is.

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:13.359
<v Speaker 3>To be a tryhard is to care way too much

0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 3>about something that has virtually no stakes. Gaga obviously has

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 3>really has stakes.

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that is another reason why the theater kid

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 1>thing is actually really not a joke, like she is

0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that Yeah, just look at the whole A star is

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 1>born erab She wasn't just being an actress. She was

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>performing an actress in a big Hollywood oscar bait movie.

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>She what, and the same way that when Joker comes out,

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>she will be performing a newer version of that. She

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is always I mean, not as much these days, just

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 1>because she's like she's fucking tired. I guess at this

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 1>point she's puts used to put so much effort into

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the behind the scenes of fame, because you know, the

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>beginning of her career was about cause playing being famous.

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:12.240
<v Speaker 1>That's literally like the point of the fame she walks

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 1>in I'm a motherfucking star. Yeah, and that performance has

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, either expanded or contracted or whatever throughout her career.

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm just I mean, this is it's so

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to talk about God without with thinking

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:33.479
<v Speaker 1>about where she is now, where she's like laying down

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>on her couch doing spawn for her makeup line and

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 1>for pharmaceutical brands and the nerd tech and I mean

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>for years, I've been in this place with Gaga. And

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is why I butt heads with other

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 1>little monsters and why I really don't consider myself part

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of that because I no, I am a little just

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:58.600
<v Speaker 1>not a part of the community. Yeah, well, littler monster,

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big month her because I have never felt

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 1>about Gaga that being a fan of her means being

0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 1>uncritical of her. And that's the problem I have with

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of little monsters and also with stand culture

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 1>in general. Is is the idea that loving someone means

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that you accept and celebrate everything that that person does,

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 1>even when it's bad or lackluster or offensive or whatever.

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>With Gaga, it's like I love her so much that

0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I hold her to the standard that she set. And unfortunately,

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 1>because of so many things, because of the hip of

0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it all, and like you know, the chronic pain and all,

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and like the relationships and you know, changing managers and

0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 1>like all the stuff that she's been through. She just

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is a very different artist than she used to be.

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But I still hold her to that standard that she set,

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that's wrong to do.

0:59:55.520 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 3>I remember seeing Gaga, I mean, first of all, to

1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:04.080
<v Speaker 3>everything you said, like I do feel like digesting Gaga

1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 3>now is It's just it's all she's doing.

1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Is giving us memes.

1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Like she's giving us great memes and great things to

1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 3>joke about on Twitter. It's like Chromatica felt like such

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:20.440
<v Speaker 3>a relief because there was legitimate art to celebrate in

1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:25.640
<v Speaker 3>that moment after a long kind of dry point, you

1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:26.240
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like Chromatica or for me, stupid Love specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>was this.

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<v Speaker 3>Like finally we get a Gaga song that I can

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:38.400
<v Speaker 3>like bop to again, because I didn't really love the cure.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really like applause. I was not an art

1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 3>pop diva. I was not a Joanne diva. I feel

1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:47.240
<v Speaker 3>like now retroactively, I've caught on more to our pop,

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<v Speaker 3>but at its release did not like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But also chromatica. As much as it felt like our return,

1:00:56.200 --> 1:01:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it also felt likewell or regression. Yeah, it felt like

1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:04.920
<v Speaker 1>this was probably the last album like that we might

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<v Speaker 1>get from her. Let's not try to aifess that baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's I do.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would be fine with if she wants to,

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<v Speaker 3>like have a baby and get fat and do cheek

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<v Speaker 3>to cheek five six, seven and twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love for her to do that. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 3>would like for her to do something as long as

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<v Speaker 3>she has like a human life. It doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 3>she has like a human life. Like she like she's destroyed, Yes, destroyed,

1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:39.120
<v Speaker 3>she was destroyed by her level, Like her tweet fame

1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:41.680
<v Speaker 3>is a prisoner whatever, like a stupid tweet, but like

1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:44.880
<v Speaker 3>she You can tell through all of the commentary and

1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:48.400
<v Speaker 3>all of the art that she specifically has made about fame,

1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:53.400
<v Speaker 3>which sometimes feels like cliche, archetypal bullshit about fame, really

1:01:53.680 --> 1:01:58.680
<v Speaker 3>is inside of her. She is so deeply traumatized by

1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 3>the experience of being the biggest pop star in the world.

1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:04.360
<v Speaker 3>And that sounds like a really stupid thing to like,

1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:07.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, say in defense for order to create sympathy

1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:10.320
<v Speaker 3>for her. But like we as humans actually are not

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<v Speaker 3>We are not physically we should not be physically able

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<v Speaker 3>to take on the amount of exposure that it is

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<v Speaker 3>when you are that level of famous, like psychologically it's

1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:24.480
<v Speaker 3>very bad for you. Yeah, And you can tell that

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<v Speaker 3>now that she's like sorry, like meded up, like she

1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:33.400
<v Speaker 3>has way way too many drugs in her body.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm worried she's gonna Michael Jackson off this mortal

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<v Speaker 1>coil that is I'm so yes, that is exactly what

1:02:39.560 --> 1:02:39.959
<v Speaker 1>it's giving.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something worries someome And I really hope that if

1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:46.320
<v Speaker 3>we get to this point where some of these signs

1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:48.600
<v Speaker 3>are like more explicit, that we don't do like what

1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:50.920
<v Speaker 3>happened to Brittany or what happened to like these other girls.

1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I want to protect Gaga. I care about her

1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and you know, maybe I should be more

1:02:56.840 --> 1:03:02.600
<v Speaker 1>charitable and think the sort of lackluster energy she's given

1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:06.880
<v Speaker 1>currently is her way of protecting herself. Probably, but I

1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Just like the energy feels so misplaced, like

1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the House Labs of it, all the chromatica oreos, so

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<v Speaker 1>the weird fake boomerangs and.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the boom ranks are so bad. The oreos are unforgivable.

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<v Speaker 3>The House Labs, however, you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Some I did. I showed the other night. I was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the new House Labs blush and the shade lavender blonde. Okay, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I love so happy I could die and I bought it.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought that shade literally just because of the name,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is actually a good. Wait wait, so happy

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<v Speaker 1>I could die? Oh wait, it's it's so happy I

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<v Speaker 1>could die. The song the lyric, I love that lavender blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the color of the blush is the shade is

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<v Speaker 1>lavender blonde?

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<v Speaker 4>Work?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait what else? So wait you I've seen you wear

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<v Speaker 1>a lip by House Labs. Yeah, the the lip crans

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<v Speaker 1>are fine. What's the is it like? Oh? The best?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best product they make is their lip oil.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're litil I heard. I think their lip

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<v Speaker 1>oil is the best lip oil on the market period.

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<v Speaker 1>I oh, better than Amy Coole. I haven't used their

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<v Speaker 1>lip oil. I always yet targeted instagrams for that ship

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<v Speaker 1>better than do your better than the Knicks, do your

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<v Speaker 1>ripoff better than the Fentie, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>close second.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you don't have the wear foundation, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>also heard the House Lives Foundation is excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've heard like various things. Some people say it's

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<v Speaker 1>really good, some people say it's really bad. Okay, good

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<v Speaker 1>to know. Also there there eye paints are are okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now gonna go get me some blush. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>powder blush, not cream. But it's almost it's almost powder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost a powder to cream formula.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and coming up are sponsored by House Lab segment.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish she would have taken out out on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love for the whole house lap Speed.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I've met her before and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>her several times. I don't ever want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with her. Yeah not again, I mean I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I want. I can't because I've had one really good

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<v Speaker 1>interaction with her at the time when she was the

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<v Speaker 1>most important to me, like her peak era, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the best kind of interaction. She was like funny,

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<v Speaker 1>she was a little mean, she was a little bitchy

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<v Speaker 1>and I was great, And I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to meet this Gaga now, even though I was

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<v Speaker 1>very pissed when I went on a press trip and

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<v Speaker 1>right you did right and did not get to meet

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<v Speaker 1>Gaga because I wasn't one of the influencers who.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there, remember, Well, So that's how I feel about Share.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want Share to ruin share for me. Yeah, Gaga,

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to meet. However, I would never want

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<v Speaker 3>to meet her as a fan, like I would never

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<v Speaker 3>want the dynamic to be like, oh, I'm like walking

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<v Speaker 3>up to her in a public place or like something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. It would need to be like I'm friends

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<v Speaker 3>with one of her friends, or I'm working on something

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<v Speaker 3>that she's working on, or like something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel that way.

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<v Speaker 3>About a lot of kind of celebs that I could

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<v Speaker 3>maybe meet, because I don't I hate the conversational dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>of fan and not you know, and the notoriety person.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do think the circumstances are really important

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<v Speaker 1>with her because she commits fully to the drag of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever she's doing at the moment. Yeah, so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>like if you met her, like I'm she probably doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go out. But like, if you met her in more

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<v Speaker 1>casual circumstances exactly, she would be doing casual drag. If

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<v Speaker 1>you met her at like a house labs event, she

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<v Speaker 1>would be in business woman drag. If you met her

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<v Speaker 1>like at a meet and greet at a show, she

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<v Speaker 1>would be doing Gaga drag.

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<v Speaker 3>Gaga is a drag artist, but she's not performing womanhood.

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<v Speaker 3>She's performing Gaga.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah she I yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that way about a lot of celebs, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll never meet Gaga probably, but like I do,

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<v Speaker 3>like if I see like a celeb, like at a

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<v Speaker 3>party or at a bar, or like if I'm or

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<v Speaker 3>at like a red carpet event or whatever, like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to walk out to them and.

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<v Speaker 3>Say hi, I'm blah blah blah, because I'd much rather

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<v Speaker 3>wait for a maybe possible, potential moment where our paths

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<v Speaker 3>intersect in an organic way where we feel more like peers.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes you just got to go for it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because might not have another chance.

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<v Speaker 3>No, never, I don't. That's the thing is, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to meet them. I don't want to eat It's

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<v Speaker 3>either I meet them in that context, or I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to meet them at all because and that sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of egoistical, but like, look, I've worked very hard,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm in a lot of cool celebrity circles sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, I don't want to walk up and say hi,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to wait till i'm there peer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never be Gaga's peer. You'll never be I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>be anything close to that. But you know, you'll just

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<v Speaker 1>be some fag. Yeah, I'll just be some fag. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you she didn't have a dick. Wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about that. Oh about how everyone

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<v Speaker 1>thought she was trans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, this is crazy. This is actually like like

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<v Speaker 3>a massive cultural massive cock. A massive yes, a massive

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<v Speaker 3>she cock, a massive cultural scandal, a massive she is

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<v Speaker 3>a massive shen take.

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<v Speaker 1>Off to the planet, to the planet. I it was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Massive cultural scandal that took over news cycles. I heard

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<v Speaker 3>about it as a kid and so like, and yet

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<v Speaker 3>it's like kind of like never, it kind of never happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wild that that was such a thing. Like it

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<v Speaker 3>was not the same as when we all said Sierra

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<v Speaker 3>had a dick, or when we said Jamie Lee Curtis

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<v Speaker 3>had a dick, when Gaga had it, Sigourney Weaver that

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<v Speaker 3>we thought had to dick. No Jamie as well. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Sigourney Weaver maybe has no.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>These are all rivers. But like when everyone was saying

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<v Speaker 3>Goga has it, God, it was like what. And then

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<v Speaker 3>she in that interview with Anderson Cooper when he was like, so,

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<v Speaker 3>people say you have a dick and She's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which obviously like part of it is shocked that it

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<v Speaker 3>like something like that feels like shock value, great pr

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<v Speaker 3>and she's smart. She was on the cusp of fame.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, let me write it without saying transphobic shit.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, so, do you have more to

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<v Speaker 3>say about it? And she was like what if I did, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>would it be so bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Her early interviews are so so phenomenal, iconic, like around

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<v Speaker 1>Born this Way, There's one where this woman asks her

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<v Speaker 1>what's the one thing in the world she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>the one experience of the world she wants to have

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<v Speaker 1>the most and she just goes, dah, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very you, it is very me.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>All of her Honestly, interview, Gaga is the Gaga an

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<v Speaker 3>early interview. Gaga, thank you for that clarification is actually

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that I'll remember forever and why I'll always

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<v Speaker 3>love her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's maybe the one circumstance in which I would want

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<v Speaker 1>to like interact with her now interview is if I

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<v Speaker 1>got to do like a proper like profile or like

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<v Speaker 1>on camera moment, because she would be in full drag

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<v Speaker 1>for that experience and I would get a really good

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<v Speaker 1>version of her. Yeah, because she I think the thing

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<v Speaker 1>now is that she keeps it so turned off all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so that in the moments when she has

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it on, it can be at one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I mean I do love her and I

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<v Speaker 1>will I will always love her more than anyone else period.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's my girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Gaga is your diva, Beyonce, she Gaga's my number two easily,

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<v Speaker 3>and they hold completely different spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>Gaga has made me cry so many times. The first

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<v Speaker 1>time I saw Starsborn, I sobbed my way through it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I honestly was convinced it was going to win

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<v Speaker 1>Best Picture of the Oscars. And then the second time

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it, I was like, Okay, no, I do

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<v Speaker 1>kind of want to rewatch it. It's been a while

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<v Speaker 1>since I saw it. I mean, it's a bad movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's very compelling in it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's amazing. I don't think it's a bad movie. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that the last third is bad, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the movie is amazing. It's a movie

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<v Speaker 3>that feels.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>You're my boyfriend, I mean my husband. You're looking You're

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<v Speaker 3>so fucking ugly. You could never be my fucking dad.

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<v Speaker 3>You never be my fucking dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm moortown. You got your fucking body, fucking body, you're

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<v Speaker 1>so fucking so fucking hey, some of your come here

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<v Speaker 1>and what that fucking makeup ass? Fuck your She go right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think she has a dick still?

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<v Speaker 4>She does?

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash like a Virgin? Divas? Who are they?

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<v Speaker 1>What do they do? What do we do in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to them? Divas leave us with so many questions? Was

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<v Speaker 1>this written by chat GBT? Yeah? All of our banter

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<v Speaker 1>was written by chat GBT. Everything we say on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is written by chat GPT. But you know who

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<v Speaker 1>isn't written by a chat gpt? Who either of our

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<v Speaker 1>next guests. That's right, let's bring them out. Let's right,

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<v Speaker 1>bring them out right now? Please welcome to the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Pluton and Joel Kim Booster.

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<v Speaker 4>Started.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. We're so tangled in wires and web cheer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a polycule. Oh my god, we are a

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<v Speaker 1>polycule now. Oh yay, Happy pride, Happy Pride. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to that chapter of polysecure yet, but are you

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<v Speaker 1>all ready to play a game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll in full disclosure, I did smoke a joint before

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<v Speaker 5>getting here. Because oh we love that, because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>respect you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, babe, babe, the feeling is absolutely mutual, Diva.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm really I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel free, I feel ready to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, great, because we're going to play a game of Diva,

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<v Speaker 3>which like does not have much to do with the

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<v Speaker 3>actual game, but it was a fun name, so it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So we are going to ask producer Phoebe to

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<v Speaker 1>be the voice of God and ask us a series

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<v Speaker 1>of questions and we're going to answer honestly from the heart.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, from the heart and the whole and the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearts and wholes, the dichotomy. Yes, Okay, give us the

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<v Speaker 1>first question.

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<v Speaker 6>The first question is what diva do you want to

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<v Speaker 6>sing at your wedding? She will also sing in the

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<v Speaker 6>hotel room on your wedding night as you're making love,

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll be cooking you breakfast the next morning. This

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<v Speaker 6>is a multiple choice question.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are the choices?

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<v Speaker 6>The choices are A Megan Trainer, do you two trainers

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<v Speaker 6>make some noise?

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<v Speaker 1>You two trainers?

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<v Speaker 6>B Kelly Clarkson see Carrie Underwood. D Rita Aura or like.

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<v Speaker 1>Other Rita Aur is kind of the other of the

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<v Speaker 1>pop world. What do y'all think?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay, my other would be I don't know why

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<v Speaker 7>this I came to be so quickly, and even though

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<v Speaker 7>she isn't a singer, she is a diva. But what's

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<v Speaker 7>in what's her name?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 4>From from.

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<v Speaker 7>Getting as I had half an ipay and feeling crazy,

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<v Speaker 7>she's bisexual and wait, Carroen, Carol Basket, Carol.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did not realize she was a by icon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's a BiCon.

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<v Speaker 7>My issue with this question and I will answer, but

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<v Speaker 7>like not to have oppositional defiance disorder, is that I

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<v Speaker 7>don't really know the catalog well enough from any of

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<v Speaker 7>those women, like as a transgender male bisexual entity. So

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<v Speaker 7>I will choose Megan Trainer because I would hope that

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<v Speaker 7>her plus one would be the little twunk from Spy Kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's your husband? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Who she poops next to? Yeah, that's my answer.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, I would like to apologize. I'm still

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<v Speaker 5>reeling from the fact that you said the word bisexual

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<v Speaker 5>and my first thought was Tila Tequila.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to the bisexual community. I feel really bad about

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<v Speaker 2>that my other.

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<v Speaker 5>If my other would be I think somebody who encompasses

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of different vibes in that sizza.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know if you can be such

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<v Speaker 1>a sad wedding night.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I got Sexy One.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sexy one. I fucked that album all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I definitely love fucking and says it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I have pimples. It's really hot.

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<v Speaker 5>But I guess if I had to choose one of

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<v Speaker 5>those ladies, I'd be spending a lot of time with them.

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<v Speaker 5>And I do think Kelly Clarkson can hang.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think so Kelly Clarkson will be singing in

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel room.

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<v Speaker 2>With you as you It's gonna be rough, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I I'm gonna have to do side behavior

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<v Speaker 5>the whole time because I just can't imagine Kelly seeing

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<v Speaker 5>anal I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's seen a lot of anal Actually, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Next question?

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<v Speaker 6>Next question, question is who would you trust to drive

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<v Speaker 6>you home from top surgery? Caitlyn Jenner or Chris Jenner.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh if the answer kind of OBVIU.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, honestly, it's only hey. My answer is is site specific.

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<v Speaker 7>I live in New York City and so therefore it's Caitlin, Use,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think aggressive driving. Yeah, I don't think that,

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<v Speaker 7>Chris Jenner. There's too many like like, I need someone

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<v Speaker 7>who's on uppers, not downers, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 7>And Chris is so fucking barred out all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't drive you home from Midtown where I got

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<v Speaker 7>my top surgery, and like an escalade like we will die,

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<v Speaker 7>But didn't Kaitlyn kill someone in the car?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, your answer has been sealed. You can't take it back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean then it's definitely Caitlyn.

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<v Speaker 4>The answer sands you know who.

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<v Speaker 1>Drove you home after your top surgery?

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, me plans, plants.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I'm too high to process this question.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think like I'm thinking about who would ask

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<v Speaker 5>the least annoying questions on the way home about what

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<v Speaker 5>it is to be someone? Would you know that of

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<v Speaker 5>trans experience? And I actually think Chris would be less annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Than a solid answer, and she would already have plans

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<v Speaker 1>about how to monetize it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait can I say a non secutor?

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, only because I had half of an I

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<v Speaker 7>p a yes, because we told her like Kelly Clarkson, anal.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm like Simon Cowell.

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<v Speaker 7>And thinking about how growing up we were all really

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<v Speaker 7>like mesmerized by his nipples. I want the Simon Cowell

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<v Speaker 7>peck implant, is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, universal healthcare, thank you, and kay, we'll drive

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<v Speaker 3>you home.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Next question, if you were in the Titanic submersible, heard

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<v Speaker 6>of it, what is the last diva anthem you'd stream

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<v Speaker 6>on Spotify before it imploded?

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<v Speaker 1>No choices, you have to come up from scratch.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, let me start by saying that I thought all

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<v Speaker 7>of I thought submersible was an inside joke in a way.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know it was actually a noun that we're

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<v Speaker 7>all calling it like instead of summarine, like the submersible.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, gay people are so.

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<v Speaker 7>Funny, but it is noun. Last diva anthem? Oh, definitely,

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<v Speaker 7>Britney spears. Wisom till the world ends? Oh it would

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<v Speaker 7>be till the world ends Britney spears. And that's a

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<v Speaker 7>gay guy answer.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. I honestly, my first song was married j Blanche.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going down? Is that too obvious?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 4>It works.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I already know your answer, Rose, which

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<v Speaker 1>would be the Nanny theme song. It would be the

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you know me so well.

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<v Speaker 5>Another question, Sorry, no, I know, Joel, listen, it's not funny.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just my favorite song in the whole world.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's Diana.

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<v Speaker 5>Ross's the boss, and in many ways it was the

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<v Speaker 5>boss's fault that that all happened in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very true. Okay, next question.

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<v Speaker 6>If you were trapped in the woods like the Lesbians

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<v Speaker 6>and Yellow Jackets, which of these divas would you you

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<v Speaker 6>most want to cannibalize A Laana del Rey, the Florence

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<v Speaker 6>Welch see Lord de Gloria Stefan.

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<v Speaker 1>Gloria would be delicious exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>The answer has to be Lana because obviously it's like,

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<v Speaker 7>if we can just just safely assume that the human

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<v Speaker 7>flesh tastes like what the human was eating, I want

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<v Speaker 7>Lana flesh, you know, I want like parliaments, chili, cheese,

1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:37.400
<v Speaker 7>dog elf bar. Yeah, I want like combos like gas

1:23:37.439 --> 1:23:38.480
<v Speaker 7>station snacks.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be good.

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<v Speaker 7>And then like Florence Welch, it would just be like

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<v Speaker 7>Spirulina and like Lilax.

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<v Speaker 5>Like well, and if there's somebody that you want a

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<v Speaker 5>round in the woods, it's Florence welch okay, like it

1:23:51.240 --> 1:23:54.080
<v Speaker 5>feels like a natural habitat for her. I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>got to be Lana because of the whole hopex boyfriend.

1:23:58.280 --> 1:24:00.519
<v Speaker 5>I feel like she probably internalized a lot of politics

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't want to be around it.

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<v Speaker 1>I support that, and I do think she would taste delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, pussy tastes like whatever, Cherry Coler or whatever.

1:24:11.120 --> 1:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, exactly, there's no way it tastes like cherry Colon. No,

1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it really, I know experience it tastes like Cherry Cole.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it tastes it's I think her pussy is

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<v Speaker 7>like carbonated, like.

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<v Speaker 4>CrOx.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Okay, next question if sorry god.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, if you were Lily rose Deep in the idol,

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<v Speaker 6>which pop star would you want to play? The cult leader?

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<v Speaker 4>Who fucks you?

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<v Speaker 6>There's only two choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we couldn't think of any male diva.

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<v Speaker 6>There's two Elton John or Rue Paul and and if

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<v Speaker 6>you can think of another male diva, please use this time.

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<v Speaker 1>To share with us who that is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of a stretch, but I would like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Lambert count.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually say absolutely mono cultural in the moment, Adam Lambert.

1:25:16.320 --> 1:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I've never listened to this Tom Jones.

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<v Speaker 7>Count Can you imagine getting top and you're like, what's new,

1:25:23.400 --> 1:25:24.000
<v Speaker 7>pussy cat?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa?

1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:25.479
<v Speaker 4>Whoa?

1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>He absolutely counts. So would you Jones? So would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to have sex with Bob Joan, Adam Lambert, Bob

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible College Founder? I obviously Adam Lambert, Rue Paul

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<v Speaker 1>or Elton John.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Elton John of the two original ones, knows

1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:52.439
<v Speaker 7>how to have sex better.

1:25:53.400 --> 1:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that Rue Paul has sex like a clone simulation.

1:25:58.400 --> 1:26:00.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, where it's like he knows what it's like because

1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:03.080
<v Speaker 7>he lived through the seventies and the eighties.

1:26:03.160 --> 1:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>But now it's just like having sex with a really

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<v Speaker 1>sad mirage.

1:26:07.479 --> 1:26:09.880
<v Speaker 7>And we saw those pictures of Elison John on that boat,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what, He's in the jumpsuit and his little dick,

1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:16.920
<v Speaker 7>you know talking about he's in a romper, so he's.

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<v Speaker 4>A party it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's where the show will take place on

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<v Speaker 1>the boat on the boat the Idle season two, Lost

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<v Speaker 1>at Sea, and the stays on during sex.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can go to the next.

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<v Speaker 6>Question, which is which diva should star in the next

1:26:34.960 --> 1:26:39.519
<v Speaker 6>remake of a star is born. The options are A.

1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:47.160
<v Speaker 6>Tyra Banks, B Kim Petres See Rosalia and de Gaga

1:26:47.280 --> 1:26:49.200
<v Speaker 6>again but in Drag as Joe Calderome.

1:26:51.520 --> 1:26:52.719
<v Speaker 4>Now we're cooking with fire.

1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I can never quite twell where we stand with her,

1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:02.439
<v Speaker 5>But I do you think Rosalia? I saw her Coachella

1:27:02.520 --> 1:27:05.040
<v Speaker 5>said it was quite wonderful, and I think it would

1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:09.600
<v Speaker 5>be really interesting to see another white person.

1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Doing that role. The role so important, it is a

1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>culturally white object.

1:27:17.640 --> 1:27:21.679
<v Speaker 7>I want Tyra Banks, but she plays both parts, yes,

1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:24.479
<v Speaker 7>because that's what That's what the rewriter right, because there's

1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:27.519
<v Speaker 7>no way I want her as Bradley Cooper and a's

1:27:27.600 --> 1:27:31.320
<v Speaker 7>Lady Gaga like, and that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Final answer, Okay, where Galaxy Brain? I'm astream more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we are at our final question for me.

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<v Speaker 1>More take it away, just one more?

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<v Speaker 6>All right, here's the last question. You have been cast

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<v Speaker 6>as a series regular in the next season of and

1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:53.280
<v Speaker 6>just like that, as one of the many rotating diversity

1:27:53.400 --> 1:28:00.040
<v Speaker 6>quota characters, filling in the place of Samantha Jones. What

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<v Speaker 6>is your character's name and profession?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I've thought about this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>You auditioned for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think my character would be Lily's birth father,

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<v Speaker 5>a gay, a gay sperm bank dude, and of course

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<v Speaker 5>his name would be something.

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<v Speaker 2>Awful like Satchel Kim.

1:28:29.479 --> 1:28:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Cho Chang.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly, and I think he would you know, they're

1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:36.640
<v Speaker 5>they're trying to subtly replace all of them together. I

1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:39.800
<v Speaker 5>think he would sort of be the replacement for Stanford

1:28:40.439 --> 1:28:42.880
<v Speaker 5>in some ways, and they would be would really butt

1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:45.280
<v Speaker 5>heads with Anthony because Anthony would be like.

1:28:45.720 --> 1:28:47.479
<v Speaker 4>I think siss is a slur or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it is, So I love that and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to watch you on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so I have I have one And this

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<v Speaker 1>I was just spitballing. So my character would be called

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda Chimalley, and I think she like works in marketing

1:29:10.080 --> 1:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I would be like Jay Diaza's like non binary sidekick,

1:29:16.479 --> 1:29:21.240
<v Speaker 7>and my name would be like Triangle, and they would

1:29:21.439 --> 1:29:24.879
<v Speaker 7>force me to get a side shave that matches Shay's.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I think we would just like do buddy

1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:30.840
<v Speaker 7>comedies where we like smoke.

1:29:30.600 --> 1:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Weed backwards or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I would just be some kind of series regular and

1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:38.920
<v Speaker 3>x Y and me Chad AS's TV show, and I

1:29:39.000 --> 1:29:42.480
<v Speaker 3>feel like my name would probably be like Gabrielle, Garcia

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<v Speaker 3>Rodriguez or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll see all of you on season three of them,

1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>just like that, unless it gets canceled. And please give

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<v Speaker 1>a big run of applause to our amazing chandelists. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Oh my god, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>Joel's gonna hear on his wedding night as he's making

1:30:09.360 --> 1:30:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the Sweet Tender Love so beautiful, say the EU in Judas.

1:30:30.880 --> 1:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>The You is better than the Beatles' entire discography. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fact. Government Hooker should have been played at

1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the inauguration and we haven't talked about that enough as

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<v Speaker 1>a society. Oh wait, these are all tweets. Fuck you Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you keep that Phoebe